**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 19 03:00:00 2014 Jan 19 03:00:13 so i should remove the function definition? Jan 19 03:07:58 chromium: yeah, or add a () at the end to run it Jan 19 03:08:02 but just remove the function I think Jan 19 03:25:24 Anyone know how you can use your phone instead of a virtual device in Android Studio? I' Jan 19 03:25:33 ve already enabled debugging mode on the phone Jan 19 03:29:37 removed the function and still not workking Jan 19 03:32:53 Hey guys! I'm having trouble getting the location of the device. When I use google's location api in an activity, I can get new locations without trouble when WiFi is unavailable. This is not the case with my service. Is that normal? If so, why and how can I fix it? Jan 19 03:34:39 Is it normal? Jan 19 03:38:58 Is the issue unclear? Jan 19 03:41:15 what would the best way to get the avg color of all pixels in a bitmap? Jan 19 03:41:28 other than adding them all up and dividing by #pixles Jan 19 03:43:41 I440r: Skip every second second or third line when adding up, then divide by #pixels calculated, since neighboring pixels are similar? Jan 19 03:45:08 wilornel, well the bitmap is only 72x72 - i think what i need to do is precalculate this and use lookup as the individual bitmaps i need this info for do not change Jan 19 03:45:26 not a problem - just a SMOP now lol Jan 19 03:45:59 Hello Jan 19 03:46:02 I440r: oh... saving the average is probably the way to go Jan 19 03:46:06 rdegraci: Hi Jan 19 03:46:11 Is it ok to ask Google Glass dev questions here ? Jan 19 03:53:04 Anyone know where to get the proper stock Windows drivers for a Nexus 4? Jan 19 03:57:18 Hmmm... are there even 'official' drivers for the Nexus 4? Jan 19 03:57:44 does android have library for checking of given polygon has overlaps? Jan 19 03:57:49 with itself Jan 19 03:59:07 XXCoder: dunno about polygons - believe Rects have a .intersect() Jan 19 03:59:23 hm ok Jan 19 04:12:57 XXCoder: don't think so Jan 19 04:13:28 yeah I guess i have to test for interections Jan 19 04:13:42 I dont plan to work on that idea for a while anyway so no hurry Jan 19 04:14:15 XXCoder: here's some code I use for my app: https://github.com/JesusFreke/Penroser/blob/master/src/org/jf/Penroser/GeometryUtil.java Jan 19 04:14:21 a/ct Jan 19 04:14:24 oops Jan 19 04:14:32 not exactly what you need, but related at least :) Jan 19 04:15:30 bsd license Jan 19 04:16:41 There was a geometry library I was using for a while that was pretty nice Jan 19 04:16:45 but it was also kinda slow Jan 19 04:19:26 yeah I might not even need it Jan 19 04:19:32 just concept stage atm Jan 19 04:20:25 ah, here it is: http://www.vividsolutions.com/jts/JTSHome.htm Jan 19 04:20:38 tons of features, etc. Jan 19 04:22:20 sweet, bookmarking that Jan 19 04:22:25 greetings, anyone know if keyboard IMEs (swype/swiftkey etc) have to ask for network/keyboard permission first? Jan 19 04:22:36 did same Jan 19 04:23:08 some android versions do ask if youre sure you want to use specific keyboard if not set default Jan 19 04:23:30 that's different the permissions would be when you install the keyboard Jan 19 04:23:49 but does it mention about internet connectivity at all? Jan 19 04:24:03 I wouldn't think a KB would need internets... Jan 19 04:24:05 like "swype will be phoning home your keystrokes, is that okay with you" kinda thing Jan 19 04:24:11 unless you're going to be downloading dictionaries or something Jan 19 04:24:15 well yeah or phoning home to the NSA Jan 19 04:24:29 that's the problem with un-granular permissions Jan 19 04:24:52 how's permissions in android like? coming from iOS here Jan 19 04:24:56 as far as i know, keyboard and network are separate permissions Jan 19 04:25:05 hmm Jan 19 04:25:07 it shows up as a dialog prior to installing the app Jan 19 04:25:14 I guess I'll find out when my nexus arrives tomorrow Jan 19 04:26:40 compared to ios [ask right before using feature] android asks for all permissions before installing; so it's an all-or-nothing deal Jan 19 04:26:58 I'm assuming you can enable/disable later? Jan 19 04:27:10 not right now Jan 19 04:27:10 no Jan 19 04:27:16 :o Jan 19 04:27:16 it's possible, though Jan 19 04:27:16 well Jan 19 04:27:19 there is the Privacy Guard thing Jan 19 04:27:24 what's it called in stock Jan 19 04:27:25 App Ops Jan 19 04:27:26 but it's hidden Jan 19 04:27:46 App Ops is mostly an OS developer tool, so far Jan 19 04:27:50 hmm, I see Jan 19 04:27:57 is it possible to make an app that accesses app ops? :p Jan 19 04:28:19 doesn't seem like a good idea Jan 19 04:28:32 shingshang: yes, but it leads to users breaking stuff without a clue Jan 19 04:28:38 ah right Jan 19 04:28:39 it doesn't really disable the permission though Jan 19 04:28:42 it just feeds the apps fake data Jan 19 04:28:43 right? Jan 19 04:28:57 sounds like it really is meant for developers then Jan 19 04:29:18 that's why they hid it :) Jan 19 04:29:25 but this "cannot easily disable permissions after installing an app" does not sound very sane Jan 19 04:29:32 android permission are not sane Jan 19 04:29:33 or is there a rationale for this? Jan 19 04:29:34 that is correct Jan 19 04:29:51 durka42: no, it disables them Jan 19 04:29:59 the android model is, install this app if you trust the devs and think the permissions it requests are reasonable Jan 19 04:30:20 not sure if the android permission model isn't actually older than iOS one Jan 19 04:30:24 some apps give reasons why they need each permission in their description Jan 19 04:30:33 the rationale [I speculate] is that the folks designing this bit of android were influenced overly by windows vista Jan 19 04:30:41 eh? Jan 19 04:31:08 heh, the perfect OS to be influenced by Jan 19 04:31:26 yes - the pendulum went too far the other direction Jan 19 04:31:50 IMO it's kind of broken because if I need to, say, ping my server for an updated time zone list once a month, I need full internet permissions forever Jan 19 04:31:57 shingshang: in a way Vista and OSX are very, very similar. Both were examples of "to hell with backwards compatibility" Jan 19 04:32:31 microsoft is fanatical about backwards compatibility Jan 19 04:32:35 not that we should go into that here Jan 19 04:32:43 durka42: it's kinda impossible to declare detailed network permissions for generic apps without breaking users Jan 19 04:32:49 if(mLocationClient.isConnected()){ currentLocation = mLocationClient.getLastLocation(); } currentLocation == null.... A if locationClient is connected, it does not guarantee a "LastLocation" ? Jan 19 04:33:02 durka42: Vista (and later) were the first where they dropped "compatibility with bugs in 3rd party apps" Jan 19 04:33:33 fair enough Jan 19 04:34:32 p_l: yeah, I dunno, you could declare a regex of URLs or something, but someone else mentioned that you only need one URL to run a proxy server, so it would be hopeless anyway :) Jan 19 04:35:26 durka42: it works for declaring permissions in chrome extensions, because those specify access to websites, not internet (and are equivalent of requesting custom permissions for specific content providers) Jan 19 04:35:55 sure Jan 19 04:36:29 though some extensions need to inject some javascript on every site or whatever so they still need full permissions, which sounds scary Jan 19 04:36:33 it's always granularity vs. usability Jan 19 04:36:57 the problem is that there are afaik more permissions in android than iOS, and there are features that afaik iOS doesn't have at all that have far-reaching meaning in permissions Jan 19 04:37:20 I guess it's also ask-on-first-use versus all-or-nothing... Jan 19 04:37:53 * p_l can't exactly recall many apps where "ask on first use" made sense Jan 19 04:38:10 now, "ask on every use" Jan 19 04:38:22 you're just gonna train users to click through them all anyway Jan 19 04:38:23 :/ Jan 19 04:38:32 I've always wondered whether it might have been more useful to have the first big list show up; but allow the user to uncheck as they prefer Jan 19 04:38:40 yes I want that :) Jan 19 04:38:45 you can do it with app ops/privacy guard Jan 19 04:39:44 but it's clunky Jan 19 04:42:06 ask-on-first-use [if the user so chooses for some permission] I think would be a good indicator of what the app's trying to do, so I can decide whether I want it to do it. [eg: contact-manager access.] Jan 19 04:42:24 app ops isnt perfect Jan 19 04:42:28 Has anyone ever tried to replace android's runtime and application libraries? Jan 19 04:42:33 kbs: https://www.alexburka.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=6818897a5e9b6869d38c5cc6d3ebc75f Jan 19 04:42:33 some apps can crash Jan 19 04:43:03 yes - I do realize that android/linux can be tweaked :-) Jan 19 04:43:28 just speculating about the stock/aosp system Jan 19 04:44:33 app ops is hidden in stock 4.3/4.4 Jan 19 04:45:21 do CM allow access to app ops? Jan 19 04:45:33 yep; though as p_l says - it's not been opened up so far. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57616076-94/why-android-wont-be-getting-app-ops-anytime-soon/ Jan 19 04:46:20 yeah that's how I took the screenshot Jan 19 04:46:22 there's already a lot of problem with restricted users, afaik Jan 19 04:46:36 I'm sure internally at google there's enough debate about this; this question has been around ever since I can remember anyway... Jan 19 04:51:10 [unrelated, but since I've asked this question over the last few days; finally poked at enough things to broadly see how play services internally obtains oauth tokens on behalf of apps. Wish this was documented, it seemed rather interesting...] Jan 19 04:55:12 I'm using ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION, but the location api does not seem to get updates from the GPS when I move around (displacements of 50 meters) Jan 19 05:00:24 How do people develop the core android stuff? It's so frickin' complex and there is so much of it @_@ Jan 19 05:00:45 are aliens making this stuff? Jan 19 05:01:06 like most software, it accretes rather than gets designed... Jan 19 05:01:43 It used to be basic... But a couple of years made it better... Jan 19 05:02:30 Not good enough to give me coarse location through the device's GPS without me having to figure the whole system out by myself, though Jan 19 05:03:03 isn't there some parameter you set to indicate how frequently you want the updates too? Jan 19 05:04:37 kbs: Yes, there is. I set the normal one at 1100 milliseconds, and the fastest rate at 1000 milliseconds Jan 19 05:04:56 It used to work. There some slight detail I might have overlooked.... or erased.. Jan 19 05:05:07 Ok, I see. I only played a bit with it a while back unfortunately; not much insight... Jan 19 05:06:02 Still, I'm thankful Jan 19 05:06:33 So, aliens did make it? Jan 19 05:08:17 wait, is google run by aliens? Jan 19 05:08:28 I'm figuring everything out mwuhahaha Jan 19 05:11:13 I wonder if anyone could genuinely believe in that... Jan 19 05:12:38 I seriously believe google is made by aliens, because the source code for android is just to tremendous to comprehend for mere humans. Jan 19 05:13:05 example? Jan 19 05:14:03 well, I mean, have you seen the git repository? Jan 19 05:14:05 https://android.googlesource.com/ Jan 19 05:14:40 lotsa codes Jan 19 05:16:10 It's very well divided Jan 19 05:16:15 And structured Jan 19 05:18:00 yea and there are tons of parts Jan 19 05:19:50 I can't find a single book that explains how it all works -.- Jan 19 05:21:09 I can't even find the folder for all the android.* classes Jan 19 05:27:04 yea I can't seem to find the application libraries either Jan 19 05:27:36 I'm amazed no one has really documented this source code, but it's so large I can see why. Jan 19 05:28:43 Zettablade: well it helps that good parts of it has been coded for years Jan 19 05:28:49 years before android even Jan 19 05:28:59 its base is linux after all Jan 19 05:29:31 the android layer itself is java, which is well developed too Jan 19 05:31:03 very true Jan 19 05:33:13 I've been reading about haskell lately, and I desperately want to replace dalvik with some sort of custom haskell-based runtime. I think that could be really neat. Jan 19 05:33:32 meh since ART is slowly making headways Jan 19 05:33:40 too bad ART cant be used on my epic Jan 19 05:33:47 it fills out space lol Jan 19 05:35:03 ART is still java though. I'd rather get a neat haskell based runtime, and replace android pretty much entirely. Jan 19 05:35:59 well there's this http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/299 Jan 19 05:36:07 I don't think it really runs on phones though :) Jan 19 05:37:55 probably just a pipe dream, but it would be cool to use haskell instead. Jan 19 05:41:14 Alright, last time asking, before I ask again tomorrow... Jan 19 05:41:36 Damn... I really need to figure it out by myself, there's pretty much no other way, I guess.. Jan 19 05:42:15 I remember last time the problem was that I did not requestLocationUpdates.. But now I'm doing it... Jan 19 05:44:00 Zettablade: it natively complex all Jan 19 05:44:04 compiles Jan 19 05:44:27 so it do run more or less as fast as native execs do Jan 19 05:44:51 Davtik recompiles parts of apk as it runs. thats why ART takes so much more space Jan 19 05:45:20 how do I put a Preference entry in my xml that launches another PreferenceFragment when you touch it? Jan 19 05:46:09 ah, PreferenceScreen maybe Jan 19 05:48:35 excellent Jan 19 05:51:42 android would be a jittery mess if it didn't compile the bytecode omg Jan 19 05:52:11 I wonder if there is a way to set dalvik to not use JIT Jan 19 05:52:24 just to see how much of a difference it makes Jan 19 05:54:28 I think the new ART is AOT compiled innit? Jan 19 05:55:45 yea itts Jan 19 05:56:04 takes some more memory to use, but worth it Jan 19 06:02:25 <_genuser_> ok, folks, AynsTaskLoader has a problem. .initLoader() doesn't actually load it. Jan 19 06:02:37 <_genuser_> have to call .forceLoad() on it. has anyone else seen this? Jan 19 06:03:14 <_genuser_> this presents that problem that if this loader is calling with .forceLoad() in onCreateView, then on screen rotate, it fires off another request because of .forceLoad(); Jan 19 06:03:28 <_genuser_> which essentially defeats the purpose of the loader manager already processes requests. Jan 19 06:11:18 zett yeah in my case it takes too much memory. drat Jan 19 06:17:40 Oh that's too bad. I've got a nexus 5 and 7, and both run it nope problem. I'm actually using dalvik with a cool little patch from qualcomm for dalvik and bionic. Jan 19 06:18:04 Not enough people understand just how awesome the qualcomm patches are xD Jan 19 06:21:33 <_genuser_> so I see my activity data (member vars) is preserved across screen rotates. Jan 19 06:21:51 my phones quite ancient (epic 4g not touch) Jan 19 06:22:19 whats weird when I tried ART it says my /data has only 16 mb left or so Jan 19 06:22:42 <_genuser_> is that something to expect or should one explicitly save the data in onconfigchanged Jan 19 06:22:51 but when as I code and test and push apk of my app to it, it has 3.4 gb left Jan 19 06:22:51 no idea whats going on Jan 19 06:22:59 doubt ART takes gbs! Jan 19 06:23:07 how can i ensure that class a's constructor happens before class b's constructor? Jan 19 06:23:42 neither of the classes are instantiated by me. they are both defined in my layout Jan 19 06:24:22 don't think you can ensure that Jan 19 06:24:49 <_genuser_> if you don't control the instantiaion order, you can't ensure that unless you implement special logic in there. Jan 19 06:24:56 then my code is fubar because class b uses information that class a creates Jan 19 06:25:15 <_genuser_> you can have a static var in class b. such as b.loaded. Jan 19 06:25:29 <_genuser_> and you can ping it in class a to wait until it's loaded and then initialize. Jan 19 06:25:31 eh? Jan 19 06:25:37 class be ensures that b is loaded? Jan 19 06:25:38 <_genuser_> but that kinda stuff can reaaaaaaally backfire. Jan 19 06:25:47 or do you mean a a.loaded in b? Jan 19 06:25:53 <_genuser_> oh sorry, right reverse that. Jan 19 06:26:39 whats the exact syntax for this? Jan 19 06:26:55 <_genuser_> public static boolean Loaded=false; Jan 19 06:26:56 Boolean foo=a.loaded() ??? Jan 19 06:27:02 oh Jan 19 06:27:09 that wont work i dont believe Jan 19 06:27:20 <_genuser_> in b(){ blah blah; blah blah; Loaded=true; } Jan 19 06:27:51 <_genuser_> in a(){ while(!b.Loaded) { ; } Jan 19 06:27:58 <_genuser_> once you break out of the loop, continue initialization. Jan 19 06:28:13 wont work unless the loading is all done in parallel Jan 19 06:28:42 <_genuser_> but I see. you could put an even more complicated thing in place. Jan 19 06:29:36 <_genuser_> alternatively, you could put something really annoying like sleep(1000) in a(){ sleep(1000); // then do crap } Jan 19 06:29:57 <_genuser_> well, taht wouldn't work either if they're loaded in teh same thread. Jan 19 06:30:09 no thats bad too. simple answer is move the stuff out of the class and into my onResume() Jan 19 06:30:21 then bythe time either class is instantiated the info is available Jan 19 06:30:34 <_genuser_> yeah, if you can move stuff around that will help. Jan 19 06:30:57 i dont like disassociating stuff from a class that truely belongs to that class Jan 19 06:31:26 i mean. this is a bitmap that the class uses and thus is loaded by the constructor Jan 19 06:31:29 <_genuser_> well, just recreate the class b in onResume then. Jan 19 06:31:30 still asking in root. adding youall. --- ate there any clear instru tions for rooting my old phone or general principles? what I read is unclear. Have rooted optimus v, to reflash stock. Jan 19 06:31:33 but the other class also uses that bitmap Jan 19 06:31:48 <_genuser_> if that's possible. Jan 19 06:32:09 no im not instantiating EITHER class. Jan 19 06:32:22 both are instantiated by the layout Jan 19 06:32:39 <_genuser_> understood. I just meant you could re-instantiate it, so it's instantiated with valid data in a by the time of your manual instantiation. Jan 19 06:33:03 im not adding 400900 lines of code to twiddle the various config of either class when it can all be done in 6 or 7 lines of xml Jan 19 06:33:33 <_genuser_> but these are just random ideas that I'm throwing out. Jan 19 06:33:41 ill just move the bitmap load out of the constructor of that class Jan 19 06:33:42 <_genuser_> I'm seeing convoluted setups in my code also, :) Jan 19 06:34:13 its ugly, it will require an extensive comment as to why something that belongs TO a class is not handled within that class but its the only real solution Jan 19 06:34:43 <_genuser_> have you any experience with screen rotation? Jan 19 06:35:22 oops corrwction am rooted, want to reflah rom. after over a year it might be corrupted. Jan 19 06:37:53 tripelb this isn't the channel, try #android-root Jan 19 06:38:39 <_genuser_> does anybody know if my data is already preserved across orientation change, if I still need to saved it and restore it in onConfigurationChanged? Jan 19 06:40:38 _genuser_ did you read the docs? lifecycle 101 Jan 19 06:41:10 http://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/index.html Jan 19 06:41:13 <_genuser_> g00s: I did. I suggests that onCreate will be called, unless I change the manifest to say that I'll handle the rotation myself so it won't restart the activity. Jan 19 06:41:43 <_genuser_> however, without the manifest change, onCreate being called on screen rotation, my data seems to be preserved just fine Jan 19 06:41:49 specifically http://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/recreating.html Jan 19 06:42:06 <_genuser_> in emulator AND on real device. Jan 19 06:43:39 <_genuser_> I'm seeing the necessary data preserved across rotates. My curiousity is whether this is intentionally being saved as member var by android or should I explicitly saved it. Jan 19 06:43:59 <_genuser_> because it's not part of the View. just member var. Jan 19 06:44:57 i dont' see how that possible Jan 19 06:45:10 <_genuser_> even tho, the docs say you should save it. Jan 19 06:45:22 <_genuser_> the second link you posted, specifically say you should save it. Jan 19 06:47:22 hmm Jan 19 06:47:31 so I'm making a lock screen sort of Jan 19 06:47:42 when the phone is off and you plug in headphones, it launches the default application Jan 19 06:47:46 but I'd like it stay locked and I handle that myself Jan 19 06:47:53 is that possible? can I override that only when the screen is locked? Jan 19 06:48:40 static fields will not go away on recreate Jan 19 06:48:54 dunno theres so few lockscreen examples Jan 19 06:49:14 _genuser_ btw, a good thing to try is set debug options to destroy activities when user leaves them Jan 19 06:49:18 I wanted to just futz with lockscreen a bit see whats it like but well Jan 19 06:49:42 i remember on my droid-1, having to go into the web browser to do that :) and it worked :D Jan 19 06:49:52 <_genuser_> g00s: ok, will do. that should take care of the emulator. Jan 19 06:49:56 it's annoying because you can remove the headphones while the screen is locked, that's fine Jan 19 06:50:05 but if you plug them in it launches Google Play or whatever and kills my app Jan 19 06:50:39 <_genuser_> g00s: I think, another thing to mention: this is a fragment with member var. it called setRetainInstance(true) in onCreate. Jan 19 06:50:39 I guess I can register a BroadcastReceive and… just launch my app again? :p Jan 19 06:50:40 hey capella Jan 19 06:50:42 whattahack Jan 19 06:50:50 _genuser_ OOOh Jan 19 06:50:52 heh Jan 19 06:50:56 hey g00s :-) Jan 19 06:51:04 <_genuser_> g00s: I think that's retaining the data. Jan 19 06:51:14 of course it is Jan 19 06:51:21 <_genuser_> pfn: a moi? Jan 19 06:51:22 the fragment is retained... Jan 19 06:51:24 _genuser_ well that would explain it maybe - but still, your activity could be destroyed in some cases Jan 19 06:51:39 and the process Jan 19 06:51:44 your activity will always be destroyed on rotation Jan 19 06:51:46 no Jan 19 06:51:52 not the process Jan 19 06:52:26 I never understood why rotation killed actibvity Jan 19 06:52:27 of course retained fragment members will retain member state... Jan 19 06:52:27 <_genuser_> I see. I will turn the members vars into static for easiest fix. They are multi-level objects, that I don't want to implement Parcelable for. Jan 19 06:52:38 XXCoder, reload reaourcea Jan 19 06:52:42 resources Jan 19 06:52:52 different layouts and such? Jan 19 06:52:57 yes Jan 19 06:53:03 hmm ok Jan 19 06:53:05 thats why there is http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Fragment.html#onSaveInstanceState(android.os.Bundle) Jan 19 06:53:31 _genuser_ no, thats crazy, if you press home and your process goes away, the shit is gone Jan 19 06:53:44 <_genuser_> g00s: nice, when teh activity is destroyed, it will basically be relaunched and my fragement will be loaded anew. Which will fetch the web data again. This is actually pretty perfect. Jan 19 06:54:06 ok Jan 19 06:54:18 <_genuser_> so you're right, static shmatic, is pointless. I just need to make sure I load fresh data when necessary. Jan 19 06:55:25 <_genuser_> guys, thank you for listening and commenting. I have a better idea of what's going on. Jan 19 06:55:53 ;) Jan 19 07:09:26 "Japanese carrier NTT DoCoMo has indefinitely suspended its plans for a Tizen phone launch this year, and Ubuntu backer Canonical has admitted that there’s unlikely to be any Ubuntu handset coming from a major manufacturer or carrier this year." Jan 19 07:09:38 well, i dont care about tizen - but i'm sad about ubuntu touch Jan 19 07:11:49 is there a way to prevent other apps receiving HEADSET_PLUG while my activity is on the screen Jan 19 07:12:17 yeah. erase all other apps ;) Jan 19 07:12:21 really dunno Jan 19 07:12:44 i dont see how you can prevent apps from getting broadcasts they registered for Jan 19 07:12:52 that would be dumb :) Jan 19 07:13:56 yeah I know it sounds bad :( Jan 19 07:14:38 g00s: where's that quote from? a few weeks ago canonical were saying they'd signed up an OEM, but weren't ready to announce who yet Jan 19 07:15:09 Leeds http://gigaom.com/2014/01/17/major-setbacks-for-two-new-smartphone-oss-tizen-and-ubuntu-touch/ Jan 19 07:15:25 cheers Jan 19 07:16:41 oh, Jono... Jan 19 07:16:58 well Jan 19 07:17:01 I feel bad for writing this http://pastebin.com/Y2mME1Rf Jan 19 07:17:06 it kind of flashes Jan 19 07:17:08 but it kind of works Jan 19 07:17:31 g00s: ^ Jan 19 07:17:58 g00s: ah, I see it came through HN :) Jan 19 07:18:29 yeah, thats pretty much the only news site i read these days. after reader went away Jan 19 07:19:04 ah, the venerated SV echo chamber :) Jan 19 07:19:25 yeah, for sure Jan 19 07:19:45 i can't even be arsed into going to the verge any more ;) Jan 19 07:19:55 oh and androidpolice once a week Jan 19 07:43:25 How do you programmatically set the current ringtone? Jan 19 07:45:22 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/RingtoneManager.html#setActualDefaultRingtoneUri(android.content.Context, int, android.net.Uri) or something probably Jan 19 07:46:18 okay, so I have a PreferenceScreen and I want to be able to use the action bar to go back Jan 19 07:46:21 the back button works Jan 19 07:46:24 but clicking in the action bar does nothing Jan 19 07:46:30 what method do I need to override? Jan 19 07:49:43 is there an app for twerking? Jan 19 07:50:42 wtf Jan 19 07:50:47 from haskell to twerking Jan 19 07:52:05 ugh Jan 19 07:52:08 fixed it with another hack Jan 19 07:52:11 not as bad as the first one though Jan 19 07:53:00 why on earth the default is that the action bar has a back button that does nothing, that I can't understand Jan 19 07:56:16 Zettablade you can do one of Chris Christie twerking Jan 19 07:57:12 nope Jan 19 07:57:21 I object Jan 19 07:57:58 omg that's a brilliant idea Jan 19 07:58:11 i know wat da ladies like Jan 19 07:58:13 you have to write it in haskell though Jan 19 07:58:45 wtf is this the special olympics? Jan 19 08:00:39 can haskell even twerk? Jan 19 08:01:01 if you fit it into a type Jan 19 08:01:19 man, was that an obscure joke or what? :D Jan 19 08:01:27 hahaha Jan 19 08:01:38 I think that might be true tho Jan 19 08:02:09 unsafePerformDanceMove Jan 19 08:13:33 http://i.imgur.com/fSfXwN5.jpg Jan 19 08:13:34 :D Jan 19 08:14:51 cats rock g00s :-P Jan 19 08:15:34 doges! Jan 19 08:16:02 * p_l eviscerates a shiba inu Jan 19 08:17:57 shiba inu still love you Jan 19 08:18:12 unlike cats Jan 19 08:18:15 cats are just assholes Jan 19 08:19:26 aka "cats are more like humans" Jan 19 08:19:39 just like dolphins being assholes kinda shows how similar they are to us :P Jan 19 08:22:08 mans best friend for a reason Jan 19 08:24:04 yes, they are good little doggies and don't pretend to be on our level or edge into our hold on assholery Jan 19 08:24:54 I'll take cat, I don't mind the competition Jan 19 08:36:30 hey guys, Jan 19 08:37:43 is there anyway to use an edittext (for search) inside a list fragment? Jan 19 08:39:32 wait wtf, are all the preferences in the PreferenceFragment being refreshed when I change any of them? Jan 19 08:46:10 apparently… yes Jan 19 08:48:58 wtf is this "cats are on our level" shit Jan 19 08:49:02 that's bullshit Jan 19 08:49:05 cats are pretty dumb Jan 19 08:49:48 dogs are just happy its cool Jan 19 08:50:00 except little dogs those fuckers can be totally nuts Jan 19 08:50:16 Zettablade: not on our level. But they definoitely don't have the same pack mentality :P Jan 19 08:50:20 "If it's smaller than a cat, it's not a dog" Jan 19 08:50:33 capella: that removes a lot of dogs from picture Jan 19 08:50:47 And your point is? Jan 19 08:51:04 I like that rule Jan 19 08:51:21 ;) Jan 19 08:51:27 a lot of dogs, including some pretty fierce ones, are excluded by it :) Jan 19 08:51:41 |not a dog| Jan 19 08:52:10 heh - "poodle" - fierce.... Jan 19 08:52:23 my kid sister got our parents to buy her a york, she ended up with a real one (not a weird miniature one). That dog has two modes: lazing in the house, and hunting outside ;) Jan 19 08:52:37 to the point of attacking huge boars Jan 19 08:52:51 "darwin award" Jan 19 08:53:06 it likes bacon too ! Jan 19 08:53:33 capella: dogs supposedly don't comprehend size differences. They see it, but they don't understand that the other animal is bigger or smaller Jan 19 08:55:35 i think cats are iOS users Jan 19 08:56:28 nah, nope. too individualistic Jan 19 08:56:38 even dogs don't have big enough packs to fit Jan 19 08:56:53 wink wink ;) Jan 19 08:58:29 android is for monkeys Jan 19 08:58:35 foxes use FFOS Jan 19 08:58:37 Cats would fit more among unix sysadmins. many factions, individualistic setups, sometimes they gather together to discuss and flamewar... Jan 19 09:00:06 this explains it all http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/ActivityManager.html#isUserAMonkey() Jan 19 09:01:10 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/UserManager.html#isUserAGoat() Jan 19 09:02:54 g00s: what does the fox say? Jan 19 09:03:52 eat more chicken Jan 19 09:04:24 except both of those methods are real and have a purpose :p Jan 19 09:05:43 durka42: what's the purpose of a goat? Jan 19 09:05:57 I think it means an emulator Jan 19 09:06:07 since when you make up a new GPS position it teleports Jan 19 09:06:10 but I could be wrong Jan 19 09:06:20 http://goo.gl/10oH4P Jan 19 09:06:57 if you pull up the task manager on Chrome, then choose "stats for nerds", one of the stats is goats transported... Jan 19 09:07:06 yeah I was wrong, it's an easter egg http://stackoverflow.com/a/13375746/1114328 Jan 19 09:12:48 anyone here getting emails/stuff from 'yourappreport.com' ? Jan 19 09:13:47 App Marketing Checklist for blah Jan 19 09:14:18 Probably, but it's also probably hitting my spam wall Jan 19 09:15:36 I also get a lot of web design spam lately.. Jan 19 09:15:57 Kind of a weird one. Jan 19 09:16:03 Which reminds me, I really should get started on a new blog post or something.. Jan 19 09:18:32 Nilium what are you using for a blog platform (if anything, like even jekyll) Jan 19 09:19:06 i was looking at ghost Jan 19 09:25:35 I can't believe you still can't mount ISOs under Android :( Jan 19 09:27:04 it's not exactly expected to be useful on majority of the devices Jan 19 09:27:23 what is mountable and what isn't boils only to kernel config and having an interface to moun/umount calls Jan 19 09:35:09 [A3G1S]: HAI Jan 19 09:39:06 INTERNET EXPLORER REPRESENT Jan 19 09:42:33 how can I get a notification if someone mentions me in the channel Jan 19 09:42:55 eh, I have a couple games I'd like to play in DOSBox on my tablet or phone that require CD access (Crusader: No Remorse, for example) Jan 19 09:43:02 I know its in address book, notify, but what is the function for self ? Jan 19 09:43:07 Hiraghm: that's dosbox specific Jan 19 09:43:52 Hiraghm: not related at all to Android Jan 19 09:43:56 yup. Until now I thought the limitation was that there was no provision in Android for mounting an ISO. I just finished reading an article on how to do it Jan 19 09:44:18 (as you said, DosBox issue) Jan 19 09:45:13 Wasn't a DosBox issue, actually. Was an ignorance issue on my part. Jan 19 09:45:37 tonySoprano9099 in textual its highlight Jan 19 09:45:46 err, alert Jan 19 09:46:03 no, actually 'mention' Jan 19 09:46:12 :| Jan 19 10:11:27 g00s, aha, how to do it ? Jan 19 10:12:40 you have to set it up in your client Jan 19 10:18:43 thanks g00s, did it. Jan 19 11:30:44 I want to have a service that listens to changes in the Clipboard Jan 19 11:31:52 I've successfully been able to start and stop a service. and right now, inside onStartCommand() of the Service class I've created a new ClipBoardManager object and set override for onPrimaryClipChanged() Jan 19 11:32:57 this is my code, http://pastie.org/8647539 Jan 19 11:33:11 line 24 does not execute Jan 19 11:35:09 yep, just made sure that the listener is not taking effect, added else for data = null Jan 19 11:51:36 I see now that only when the service is stopped do I receive back what was stored upon copy Jan 19 11:51:49 what I have to do is get that stuff and store it somewhere Jan 19 13:11:46 Hello Jan 19 13:12:02 Can anyone Heltp me with Notifications? Jan 19 13:13:49 Can anyone Heltp me with Notifications? Jan 19 13:15:14 Can anyone help me with Notifications? Jan 19 13:15:15 Hey #Julian_b90 Jan 19 13:15:20 Hey Jan 19 13:15:31 Don't spam Jan 19 13:15:38 And try and actually ask a question Jan 19 13:15:40 Sorry Jan 19 13:16:12