**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 31 02:59:58 2014 Jan 31 03:18:29 Hey all.. I have a question on widgets and using RemoteViews.. Specifically, I want to update a widget with a bitmap.. but in order to correctly render the bitmap, I need the dimensions of the widget. What is the correct way to get the display dimensions of the widget? Jan 31 03:18:58 I'm inexperienced so if I'm asking the wrong question, please let me know. Jan 31 03:20:57 i think the view class has some methods relevant to you Jan 31 03:21:29 also there are limits to what you can do with remoteviews Jan 31 03:22:12 oh, is there really a way to get the exact dimensions of widgets at runtime? been looking for that trick for a while Jan 31 03:22:46 I don't see anything in View that's width related with @RemotableViewMethod Jan 31 03:25:22 in sql, how do I properly escape a LIKE query so that symbols like % are not considered part of the sql? Jan 31 03:26:20 I believe sqlite3 uses %% Jan 31 03:27:06 oh, actually - hm. *does quick check* Jan 31 03:34:09 my mistake. Looks like it uses an escape clause - didn't know that. ... like "abc~%" escape '~'; Jan 31 03:35:32 ah well - should hide my tail behind my legs and call it a day :-) Jan 31 03:39:50 performing events on keystrokes as a user types - it's clunky because my events a little slow, but I can't use AsyncTask because that would make a new thread so I won't be "allowed" to "touch" another thread's views Jan 31 03:39:51 what to do? Jan 31 03:44:06 hephaestus_rg kbs: Hmm.. Is there maybe a way to reference the view via the ID? Like build a view from 'R.id.imageView1' ? Jan 31 03:45:44 AzuleZ: i don't remember the precise limitations of remote views, sorry Jan 31 03:46:44 runOnUIThread could be the answer!!! Jan 31 03:46:49 Nod.. No worries; I'm trying to see if there's a way to reference the view directly, bypassing remote views entirely. Jan 31 03:47:09 So like, if I can build something from the widget's layoutid, or the imageView's ID, essentially. Jan 31 03:47:17 The problem is I don't yet understand what those really mean. Jan 31 03:52:33 findViewByID exists on an Activity, it looks like, but not on an AppWidgetProvider Jan 31 03:57:25 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7393586/calling-findviewbyid-from-outside-an-activity Jan 31 03:57:41 you cannot bypass remote views for widgets Jan 31 03:57:50 unless you're the widget host Jan 31 03:59:36 pfn: Even for read-only operations? Jan 31 03:59:58 Do you know how to get the pixel height/width of an image view via remoteviews? Jan 31 04:00:15 why would you Jan 31 04:00:39 I'm feeding it a bitmap which I'm trying to render at native res Jan 31 04:02:28 you should know the height already, based on your layout Jan 31 04:02:39 And configuration update info Jan 31 04:03:56 Is there a way to access that information from within the widget provider? I was trying to figure out a way to get the layout from the R.layout.myLayout ID, or R.id.myView Jan 31 04:04:28 I'm pretty new at this. :E So apologies in advance. Jan 31 04:04:39 It would be nice if Android had an option to actually move a View instead of the fakery it uses with TranslateAnimation. Causes glitches when repositioning after an animation Jan 31 04:12:07 Has anyone here by chance been successful using Mockito within a one-module Android project? Jan 31 04:17:01 pfn: This is in the context of trying to work with a widget, so unfortunately I don't have access to the Configuration or the layout directly as you'd have in an activity. Thanks for the thoughts, though! Jan 31 04:18:14 int maxage = -9; Calendar cl = Calendar.getInstance(); cl.roll(Calendar.MONTH, maxage) Jan 31 04:18:49 if i do cl.getTimeInMillis it doesn't seem to represent the time 9 months ago Jan 31 04:20:37 oh instead of .roll i need to add a negative number Jan 31 05:02:49 Hello Jan 31 05:04:38 AzuleZ, widgets have configuration... Jan 31 05:07:46 Is there a way to clear the x,y properties an ObjectAnimator applies to a View, after the animation has finished? I'm setting position using margins, and after the ObjectAnimator has finished, I can no longer move the View Jan 31 05:19:27 does anyone know how to sanitize user input to sql when using ActiveAndroid Jan 31 05:29:02 Hi, if i want to save an image that is viewable in the gallery where must I create the file? ie. does it have to be new File(android.os.Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory(), "images/MYFOLDER" ... ? Jan 31 05:32:37 uh, don't you have to use http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Environment.html#DIRECTORY_PICTURES Jan 31 05:33:10 with public static File getExternalStoragePublicDirectory (String type) Jan 31 05:33:14 well i've just done it the way above, and I see a directory called MYFOLDER in the gallery Jan 31 05:33:39 I was just curious if I can make subdirectories Jan 31 05:33:54 like MYFOLDER/January MYFOLDER/February etc Jan 31 05:36:20 sorry - to be clear, these are photos taken from the camera app, within the app i'm making Jan 31 05:36:28 not just random images Jan 31 05:38:19 The downloads app: WHen I choose an item and hit 'delete' to clear it from the list, it also deletes that item from disk. How can I achieve the first, without the second? I use DownloadManager to get a file, and I want users to be able to remove it from their list (or never show it in there at all) without deleting the file. Jan 31 05:39:44 i never used the downloads app before; or downloadmanager… yesterday i wanted to find out more about it, but my google fu sucked google;"android download app" heh Jan 31 05:41:53 all i got were irrelevant results. Jan 31 05:48:08 say you had..... x = new File(android.os.Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory(), "images/mydir/subdir/photo.png") Jan 31 05:48:30 if you run x.getParentFile().mkdirs() will that create mydir and subdir? Jan 31 05:48:37 or does it just create the parent, subdir? Jan 31 05:51:43 g00s: actually i just figured out my own question Jan 31 05:51:54 g00s: http://sandersdenardi.com/using-the-android-downloadmanager/ Jan 31 05:52:12 hello! Jan 31 05:53:02 damccull yeah; i wanted to know what to do with 'Downloads' app in my launcher :) Jan 31 05:53:18 since it was empty and i couldn't figure out wtf to do with it Jan 31 05:53:31 seems like a UI flaw (why is this here, and why should i care) Jan 31 05:53:44 g00s: chrome and other apps use it as their download manager Jan 31 05:53:55 g00s: or if not chrome, the AOSP browser Jan 31 05:54:01 imagine you had a folder on your desktop called 'Magic Bucket' and stuff just showed up there Jan 31 05:54:10 yeah, i wasn't aware of it Jan 31 05:54:24 it's not very noticeable Jan 31 05:55:14 i thought Play Books would let me directly import a book; without going to the cloud. so i thought if it was in Downloads, and i Clicked on the pdf, it would be owned by Play Books Jan 31 05:55:29 so i was trying to figure out how to get my pdf in Downloads :| Jan 31 05:55:35 yeah, i'm dumb Jan 31 05:55:53 you could also click on the file attachment in gmail, etc Jan 31 05:55:58 or use another file manager Jan 31 06:06:41 lol Jan 31 06:07:42 Ok so I want to display a modal dialog on my activity (that has fragments for its ui) that can't be dismissed until an operation is complete. How? Jan 31 06:08:25 AlertDialog? Jan 31 06:08:55 Perhaps. Alternatively, I'd like to show alternative layout in my fragment until an operation is complete. Is that possibly? Jan 31 06:09:17 i think you can change the layout :) Jan 31 06:09:47 oh, wait. until your app finishes something Jan 31 06:10:07 ok, well i would just show a spinner in your existing UI, no need to pop up a dialog Jan 31 06:10:17 dialogs are like ghettos Jan 31 06:11:24 i don't see this that often http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/software-engineer/androids-indeterminate-progressdialog-tutorial/#. Jan 31 06:11:25 any more Jan 31 06:13:05 learning how to do those things properly was one of my first challenges :) Jan 31 06:13:10 hmm. Jan 31 06:13:39 Well I need to disable functionality until a file is downloaded...cause otherwise it isn't there to query. Jan 31 06:13:54 and not crashing on configChange Jan 31 06:14:52 capella if i had to i'd probably still screw that up :) Jan 31 06:15:00 i just avoid dialogs as much as i can Jan 31 06:15:53 :p I needed a throbber / beachball while my app scanned /data/data for file size info .... took 6-7 secs Jan 31 06:15:56 so using tab bar with fragments, the second time I visit the fragments its blank. I have this in getItem case 0: return new Home().newInstance(); .... but still blank Jan 31 06:15:57 ideas? Jan 31 06:16:18 Hmm. Perhaps I'll just make a new fragment and not allow the user to see any other stuff until the download is done, then display progress on that fragment Jan 31 06:17:08 this is my main activity https://gist.github.com/akatreyt/8727399 Jan 31 06:18:45 thoughts? Its driving me effin insane Jan 31 06:31:00 is "images" a system folder in Android on the external storage directory? Jan 31 06:31:47 I am trying to remove a view from its parent, when I create the view dynamically, I call setId and give it a unique int, then later I call findViewById on the parent passing it that id, then call parent.removeView but the view doesn't remove Jan 31 06:42:20 made a dialogfragment. Want to lock it so user can't dismiss it. Ideas? Jan 31 06:46:52 woot. Jan 31 06:46:57 setCancelable(false) Jan 31 06:56:11 does that mean no dismiss using outside tap nor back button? Jan 31 06:56:16 damccull: ^ Jan 31 06:56:56 capella http://imgur.com/gallery/3jxqrKP XD Jan 31 06:58:00 hyderagood: yes Jan 31 06:58:06 What was that Kat Williams comedy line ... "Am I a tiger? I don't feel like a tiger" Jan 31 06:58:15 though i've now dumped this in favor of a prettier fragment Jan 31 06:59:17 i like the bird there, maybe pondering the same thing 'am bird.." Jan 31 06:59:31 Comment down a bit "No bear. Only zuul." Jan 31 06:59:43 I think he meant XUL :D Jan 31 06:59:48 heh Jan 31 07:01:14 hey i hve everythin but im missin somethin to do the bsic action bars tutorials because the action bar isnt showing pu though Jan 31 07:01:16 any suggestions Jan 31 07:01:32 Bird thinking "Am bird .. haz got wingz" Jan 31 07:05:10 if i have an imageview Jan 31 07:05:14 and a bitmap Jan 31 07:05:40 and i want to set the bitmap to the imageview AND set the same bitmap to the actionbar Jan 31 07:06:00 how do i do the actionbar part? it seems like i might need a drawable Jan 31 07:06:16 if i have a drawable, how can i set it to the imageview as well? Jan 31 07:16:08 hephaestus_rg: you probably want a BitmapDrawable Jan 31 07:16:19 yeah sorry i figured it ou Jan 31 07:16:41 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8642823/using-setimagedrawable-dynamically-to-set-image-in-an-imageview and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2415619/how-to-convert-a-bitmap-to-drawable-in-android Jan 31 07:27:39 pfn: Do you know how to get from here -> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/appwidget/AppWidgetProvider.html To a Configuration object? Jan 31 07:28:39 I was sort of hunting around in AppWidgetManager/AppWidgetProverInfo, and I still wasn't able to find a good place to grab the pixel dimensions of the widget into which I want to stuff a bitmap. Jan 31 07:42:16 Where the heck is adb -r documented? Jan 31 07:42:24 when I run adb help its not there] Jan 31 07:42:59 ah its only to adb install -r Jan 31 07:45:41 aloah Jan 31 07:46:23 * jaDule just wants to thank all the helpful people around here - <3 Jan 31 07:46:30 Enjoy your day Jan 31 07:52:25 IS eclipse the most recoommended for developing android apps Jan 31 07:55:36 depends who's recommending Jan 31 07:57:27 * capella recommends intelliJ like many others ... or "AS Studio" Jan 31 07:58:48 Hi guys, can someone odvise me ? I'm sending photos from android to local server over FTP. and the upload speed is approx. 15kbps ... where can be problem ? iam using mixed b/g/n mode in router, and my phone has wireless N . Iam sending them through Apache commons library , iam using passive mode, and storing files in bufferedinputstream . Please could someone really give me adviise how to... Jan 31 07:58:50 ...run it at least at 100 kbps ? basically i am finnishing project for one little company, but this basically will be useless when its uploading 1 image / 3 minutes . Thank you very much guys Jan 31 08:02:59 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/DownloadManager.html#remove(long...) Jan 31 08:03:08 WHY would they automatically remove completed files? Jan 31 08:03:10 that's stupid. Jan 31 08:04:00 because you asked them too by calling remove Jan 31 08:13:26 it seems like when i set the actionbar icon via a bitmap Jan 31 08:13:47 it scales it correctly. but this is a problem since some of my images are favicons Jan 31 08:13:56 which look super tiny in the actionbar Jan 31 08:14:22 is there some way to scale the actionbar icon to always be a specific size on screen Jan 31 08:22:18 scale them yourself to 32dp*32dp Jan 31 08:22:28 or 40dp*40dp, actually Jan 31 08:29:43 ANyone know of a library to handle downloads? Built in DownloadManager blows. Jan 31 08:30:50 handle how? Jan 31 08:31:20 like automatic resuming or retries. aware of netwrok connection type, things like that. Jan 31 08:31:29 volley? Jan 31 08:31:40 i want to give it a url and a save location and then watch the magic Jan 31 08:31:47 volley buffers to a byte[] Jan 31 08:31:55 do NOT use it for file downloads Jan 31 08:32:05 it's for APIs and small images Jan 31 08:32:59 nod Jan 31 08:34:49 JakeWharton: you don't have some crazy library hidden in plain sight on one of your sites that does this? ;) Jan 31 08:34:56 nope Jan 31 08:35:12 what you want is a lot of work to implement Jan 31 08:36:03 damccull i thought downloadManager did what you want :| Jan 31 08:36:16 Please can someone advise me why uploading from android to local server is slow ? 15kbps ? its over fpt Jan 31 08:36:18 ftp Jan 31 08:36:22 i was kidding JakeWharton :) Jan 31 08:36:28 I know. So much work. Jan 31 08:37:38 g00s: it mostly does, but it's got this annoying behavior where once it's downloaded the file, if I delete it without using the downloadmanager, the downloadmanager then doesn't know it was deleted, and will report that the file still exists when you query it's destination path stored in the downloadmanager Jan 31 08:39:03 uh, why aren't you using DownloadManager.remove () Jan 31 08:41:38 maybe i missed something :) Jan 31 08:42:27 Please, do you know if the Andorid camera capture size ratio is always 4/3 ? Jan 31 08:43:28 Ange_blond: no Jan 31 08:43:39 it could be anything, theoretically Jan 31 08:44:30 g00s: that method will also delete the file. I don't want it to delete. I DO want to redownload it if it doesn't exist in the path. Jan 31 08:45:44 I do not want to download it twice simultaneously if the user starts the app, closes it, restarts it. If I .remove() it, file is deleted. If I don't, and the file gets deleted another way, then the download manager thinks it still exists so app won't redownload it. Jan 31 08:45:52 exists == in progress Jan 31 08:46:53 JakeWharton> ok thanks Jan 31 08:47:05 anyhow, i'm now enitrley too delirious to continue without crazy shit in my code. Jan 31 08:47:16 i will start again later this weekend. thanks for your help guys Jan 31 08:48:02 heh, i know how you feel. i'm working on a custom Preference; and just about every example in the aosp code does it differently. its going to make me mad too :) Jan 31 08:48:25 and that should be easy; been around since Api 1 Jan 31 08:49:18 some prefs actually override onSaveInstanceState / onRestoreInstanceState, some don't. some call notifyChange() others don't Jan 31 08:50:12 and for some reason, onSetInitialValue i called twice with DialogPreference :| Jan 31 08:52:52 i like a challenge, but don't like fighting bad docs and stupid shit - thats when i think i should shift gears and do Burro Racing Jan 31 09:22:27 hi all Jan 31 09:25:09 Hi, how can i create a listview with multiple columns and fill it in xamarin? Jan 31 09:28:51 what happens with a cookie, in the default http stuff, if the Set-Cookie has a date set in the past? will it be thrown away (more or less a reset) or will it still exist available for the requests? Jan 31 09:38:20 g00s: xamarin ---^ :) Jan 31 09:40:33 Never heard of it. Jan 31 09:49:06 actually the cookie with a date past is expired, see the doc .http://developer.android.com/reference/org/apache/http/cookie/Cookie.html#isExpired(java.util.Date) Jan 31 09:49:25 and doesn't take in consideration Jan 31 09:54:52 so it will remove it from the jar? Jan 31 09:57:39 Please can someone advise me why uploading from android to local server is slow ? 15kbps ? its over ftp Jan 31 09:58:23 which jar ? Jan 31 09:59:09 cookie jar Jan 31 09:59:21 cookies ? Jan 31 10:00:19 DOSP it can be any number of many reasons, performance problems can be tricky. Jan 31 10:00:45 no it's always present but expired just this Jan 31 10:00:56 so it will be useless Jan 31 10:01:25 DOSP protip: performance attributes are part of the /architecture/ of a system; the architecture should be validated in prototypes to make sure everything is sound Jan 31 10:01:49 saying 'well its functionally complete' but doesn't perform well means, basically, the architecture is bust Jan 31 10:02:11 of course, maybe its just a bad setting, your wifi stuff, network configuration Jan 31 10:02:38 well i dont know where is the problem, I'm sending photos from android to local server over FTP. and the upload speed is approx. 15kbps ... where can be problem ? iam using mixed b/g/n mode in router, and my phone has wireless N . Iam sending them through Apache commons library , iam using passive mode, and storing files in bufferedinputstream . Please could someone really give me adviise... Jan 31 10:02:39 ...how to run it at least at 100 kbps ? basically i am finnishing project for one little company, but this basically will be useless when its uploading 1 image / 3 minutes Jan 31 10:02:39 oh, and FTP sucks :) Jan 31 10:03:28 thats my previous message, and i used the FTP Commons library tutorial o send files Jan 31 10:04:05 feanorin: alright, thanks Jan 31 10:04:22 DOSP you can try something like this http://www.fcc.gov/blog/new-fcc-speed-test-app-how-does-your-mobile-broadband-network-measure Jan 31 10:04:31 see what is 'expected' for your device Jan 31 10:05:00 government website dont do it Jan 31 10:05:09 FCC has an android app Jan 31 10:05:54 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samknows.fcc Jan 31 10:05:56 hm, im gonna check it out, however really on local wifi with local computer runing local server i really dont see 13kbps to be fast Jan 31 10:06:02 or use something else, whatever Jan 31 10:06:08 yea iam gonnna check Jan 31 10:06:22 g00s and what should i use if not ftp ? which protocol ? Jan 31 10:06:30 i guess http Jan 31 10:06:39 hm Jan 31 10:06:47 http*s* if anyone gives a crap :) Jan 31 10:08:17 :D hm is tht government app just like a speed measure ap ? Jan 31 10:08:22 or the device speed Jan 31 10:08:46 could someone please just give me a quick tip/hand, on http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html#custom-camera if you go to "Detecting Camera Hardware" , there is the code to detect camera hardware, i put this in my main method but it isnt called or anything, how would anyone suggest to actually use this code?I'm lost Jan 31 10:12:30 you mean calling context.getPackageManager().hasSystemFeature(PackageManager.FEATURE_CAMERA) ? Jan 31 10:16:48 hi all im from Germany i got a gif animation of my TO Build App http://foengarage.de/em.gif WHAT is that layout caled to search for a example to work with Jan 31 10:18:06 im a NOOB to this but do alot non OOP programming so the Class structure is for me the biggest hint Jan 31 10:18:36 eclipse layout first works perfect but i coudt not display the different xml in the tabs Jan 31 10:19:08 so someone shoudt give me a hint to an example in that layout format Jan 31 10:19:11 Thanks Jan 31 10:19:35 asfdd how do i call that? Jan 31 10:33:57 eclipse suck Jan 31 10:35:13 you said it Jan 31 10:36:39 Hey Jan 31 10:36:44 can I ask for some help ? Jan 31 10:40:34 just do it Jan 31 10:42:35 Well, is there any way to put icon in menu item which has attribute showAsAction="never" Jan 31 10:42:36 ? Jan 31 10:42:52 I want to have actionbar with 2-3 options, and i have icons there Jan 31 10:42:57 but when i tap "menu button" Jan 31 10:43:14 i want to have a "menu dialog" which opens at the bottom of scrren Jan 31 10:43:18 and has icons + text Jan 31 10:43:44 which looks exactly as : http://developer.android.com/images/options_menu.png Jan 31 10:44:11 and i want to achieve this on > 3.0 api Jan 31 10:51:51 what have you tried so far? Jan 31 10:52:04 isn't it just another view positioned to the bottom? Jan 31 11:45:41 I have a ViewFlipper with multiple ListViews inside. When I scroll through one ListView, BaseAdapter.getView is called multiple times on all the ListViews. The ListViews visibility is GONE. I also tried setting setEnabled(false) and setClickable(false) on the hidden ListViews, yet BaseAdapter.getView is still getting called. This slows down my app. Why is this happening? How can I prevent the ListView from refreshing it's views? Jan 31 12:07:19 DOSP: still having ur issue? Jan 31 12:11:15 i dont think its the buffer / router / passive mode.. first try to upload something to a FTP in your local network via wireless.. if speed is OK there it is either that you tried uploading via cellular connection or the server has a speed limit Jan 31 12:29:29 k Jan 31 12:30:36 jaDule well i am sharing through my notebook files in my pc, so i download something and through network i pass it to other device, and it is quite what it should be , i mean whole movie is done in few minutes, so i think issue is on android side, but where Jan 31 12:31:46 That is not really clear what you wrote there Jan 31 12:31:58 are you using the same method / protocol as in your app Jan 31 12:32:26 if not.. it would be similar saying (if i plug in the USB cable its also very fast..) Jan 31 12:35:59 i right i get it, well i need to test it home, iam in work now, so i try to send something from desktop client to my server and see the speed.. Jan 31 12:36:19 or any other webserver online Jan 31 12:36:39 http://www.ftp-sites.org/ Jan 31 12:37:52 hi, anyone knows how i can convert a json object into a hashmap? Jan 31 12:38:47 jaDule i also havee thought about compriming with zip those files, so you have just one file to send over network, i dont know, what to optimize Jan 31 12:39:11 HashMap result = Jan 31 12:39:11 new ObjectMapper().readValue(JSON_SOURCE, HashMap.class); Jan 31 12:39:53 DOSP: one file multiple files doesnt really matter.. what could have effect (if serverside has thread limit) that you upload concurrently Jan 31 12:41:02 hmm, right. i must test all those things, but i see ftp to be sometimes really fast, why my upload speed is 13kbps approx. that's really bad. Jan 31 12:42:07 i somewhere (past tense of) read that the Apache commons library is by default slow. Might that be the factor ? i used some other library , jFtp or what , but it was similarly slow Jan 31 12:42:14 the FTP is as fast as resources allocated with upper limit of its internet bandwidth Jan 31 12:42:45 apache common is not slow by default.. Jan 31 12:42:52 just as i thought Jan 31 12:43:16 and when you are talking about transmission speed using some TCP protocol Jan 31 12:43:30 nothing is fast as what your system is used to (file io) Jan 31 12:44:18 ... remember that TCP on mobile network sucks by default, and Wifi sucks with increased number of wifi users on the channel? ;) Jan 31 12:44:26 hey there anyone has any idea in how to keep an app running in the backround and not reseting? (like a connection to a certain server) Jan 31 12:44:26 okay i believe its not by server , its all local , i have filezilla server started and I am uploading to it. Jan 31 12:44:42 daimvn use service Jan 31 12:44:50 and speed? Jan 31 12:44:59 or maybe AsyncTask , depends what will you run Jan 31 12:45:44 jaDule speed of uploading is 13kbps on android , i didnt tried it on desktop with this one, but i remember previously running fiilezilla server and uploading to it with 1mbps speeds Jan 31 12:45:59 on desktop <- Jan 31 12:45:59 what do you mean? Jan 31 12:46:09 you are talking with some unkown cypher Jan 31 12:46:50 1mb/s? thats 10mbit Jan 31 12:46:54 jaDule : ObjectMapper cannot be resolved.. Jan 31 12:46:58 (which is fast) Jan 31 12:47:36 jaDule i know, crappy thinkpads keyboard , dont worry about the speed on desktop in was much much above what it is on android, just take it as that okay? i wish i could ge t 100kbps on android .. Jan 31 12:47:38 http://jackson.codehaus.org/1.7.3/javadoc/org/codehaus/jackson/map/ObjectMapper.html Jan 31 12:47:46 my mistake didnt ask properly i already got an app that keep disconnecting after some time idle or if i do other things and this app is in background . can i keep this app staying connected somehow? Jan 31 12:47:57 its going like 13kbps , 3kbps , 699bps ..its totally slow Jan 31 12:48:47 DOSP: you are not clear enough about your problem.. try disabling cellular and see whether speed improves Jan 31 12:49:04 then also try to upload from your local pc, maybe your internetline is slow Jan 31 12:49:22 this problem is easy to be narrowed down.. so do according steps everything else doesnt make sence Jan 31 12:49:48 Okay i do it when i get home, however my internetline is not slow Jan 31 12:50:02 i can guarantee that .. it must se smoething else Jan 31 12:50:31 maybe port problems, or some services are bottlenecking it Jan 31 12:50:49 as you said, i get home and test, but iam really sure that it isnt internet Jan 31 12:50:53 daimwn: as dosp suggested you need to keep your app alive or reconnect on resume, so a service might be a solution Jan 31 12:52:31 you mean me making or using a service but i dont have any control to this app its just an app i use to connect to some work things so how can i use a service in an app not mine? Jan 31 12:53:15 oh :) Jan 31 12:53:15 if i understand it correctly, its above my knowledge :D but i would like to hear reply on your question as i am also interested Jan 31 12:53:19 thats a problem Jan 31 12:55:01 ok maybe some other way then is there anyway to keep ALL apps from closing in the background lets say for when i work and then change it back to normal ? Jan 31 12:55:18 no Jan 31 12:55:34 thats needs to be implemented in the programme Jan 31 12:55:35 i like straight forward answers but not tihs time :P Jan 31 12:55:49 what the app does Jan 31 12:55:57 ok so no way to keep connected to this server with this app i need to relogin every 10-15 min Jan 31 12:56:10 i am just logged in in a server and do some work Jan 31 12:56:31 if i go browsing or whatever after 5-10-15 min depends i get disconnected Jan 31 12:56:48 so the app is establishing vpn? Jan 31 12:57:04 probably yes Jan 31 12:57:04 ah never mind Jan 31 12:57:13 ok Jan 31 12:57:54 thnx anyway Jan 31 12:58:47 sure Jan 31 13:07:59 jaDule : what parameter should i use for readValue, i have a json string basical Jan 31 13:13:49 what's the best way to refresh a fragment Jan 31 13:14:35 Hello guys. How long does it take for Alpha/Beta version to be available on playstore ? Jan 31 13:14:43 Is it the same as production ? Jan 31 13:15:55 yes vegetablesalad19 Jan 31 13:16:24 and if you have access control on them you cant search for it Jan 31 13:17:19 lemonxah: sorry I dont follow. Jan 31 13:17:23 search for what ? Jan 31 13:17:39 will it show as different app in playstore ? Jan 31 13:18:14 same playstore Jan 31 13:18:30 if you have setup your beta/alpha to only be available for specific people Jan 31 13:18:34 then only those will see it on the play store Jan 31 13:18:36 yes Jan 31 13:18:41 but only via direct link Jan 31 13:18:44 no searching Jan 31 13:18:54 oh ok, got it Jan 31 13:19:01 no worries Jan 31 13:19:31 I'm a bit disapointed about this. I can understand the loong time it takes to publish release, but why for Alpha ? Jan 31 13:19:59 Sometimes I need to put out 10 different alpha versions per day Jan 31 13:20:41 I used to hold them on my server, hoped I could have the same workflow with google Alpha/Beta options. guess not Jan 31 13:21:41 Anyway thanks for prompt reply lemonxah Jan 31 13:22:06 no worries Jan 31 13:22:21 vegetablesalad19, its the same process for alpha or beta or live Jan 31 13:22:30 its easier to process batches Jan 31 13:22:51 so depends on when the batches run the time varies Jan 31 13:23:12 Yes, I just was thinking of using it as current dev version holder. So in-house testers could have fast access to nevest version Jan 31 13:23:24 we do a new alpha release once a week and a new beta once every 2 weeks Jan 31 13:23:44 you could just give them access to CI Jan 31 13:23:54 and they get the latest apk if they need it Jan 31 13:24:02 CI ? Jan 31 13:24:24 continues integration ie .. TeamCity, Jenkins Jan 31 13:25:15 oh, first time I hear of this. Will have to check it out Jan 31 13:25:20 really Jan 31 13:25:21 hmmm Jan 31 13:25:41 and it's a JetBrains product, I like them Jan 31 13:25:44 basically its a server you setup that catches changes in your source repo like github or svn server and then rebuilds your app Jan 31 13:26:17 so if you check in your code to your source repo it triggers a build on this server Jan 31 13:26:24 so the latest version of the apk is always available Jan 31 13:27:42 It's hosted on "my server" and app gets built on server ? Jan 31 13:28:36 quit cool if I can say so Jan 31 13:34:13 vegetablesalad19: you ever do QA testing on software? Jan 31 13:34:17 This is more-or-less like this Jan 31 13:44:28 why doesn't Android Studio just show me the release notes *within* itself Jan 31 13:44:39 I don't want you switching my blasted desktops Jan 31 13:53:27 It's hosted on "my server" and app gets built on server ? yes Jan 31 14:04:19 anyone know of a way to stop the kindles doing that weird overscroll bounce back thing Jan 31 14:07:06 place it in the bin Jan 31 14:07:18 my first thought too Jan 31 14:08:38 this is my favourite thing about the kindle https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/attachmentText?id=10197&aid=101970012000&name=VideoView.java&token=mPSHYJ-05nmoozoI0StFx_zKoII%3A1367069364201#478 Jan 31 14:09:23 overall it's not TOO horrible Jan 31 14:09:29 i think i just have to disable overscroll maybe Jan 31 14:12:19 morning Jan 31 14:15:40 Mornin'! Jan 31 14:15:48 evening Jan 31 14:16:00 afternon Jan 31 14:16:29 tally ho Jan 31 14:20:28 with asynctask, how is it possible to call a method inside doinbackground. and inside that method call publishProgress. ? is it possible or can publishProgress only ever be used Directly inside doinbackground Jan 31 14:21:41 this should work Zylinx Jan 31 14:21:52 as long as the method does not affect any views Jan 31 14:22:46 how? Jan 31 14:22:55 just call it Jan 31 14:23:02 like a java method. Jan 31 14:23:27 doInBackground(...){ mMethod() } Jan 31 14:23:31 hey guys, how do I replace an EditText view witha another EditText view in the exact same spot? Jan 31 14:23:41 void mMethod() { publishProgress(...) } Jan 31 14:24:04 CocoStorm why not alter the Text of the textview? Jan 31 14:24:18 danijoo, because it's an edittext view? Jan 31 14:24:33 lol danijoo thanks i have no idea why i thaught it wasnt working Jan 31 14:24:39 so what? mEditText.setText("bla") Jan 31 14:25:32 danijoo, I see, because it needs to be a different size and I need to grab the values of the EditText views to do different things Jan 31 14:25:51 but I guess I can do that as well right Jan 31 14:26:21 would still be easier to just steht all the stuff. but if u want to replace it the easiert way might be to define 2 EditTexts in your XML Jan 31 14:26:47 ant then call setVisibility(View.GONE) on the first one, and setVisibility(View.VISIBLE) on the second Jan 31 14:27:21 reusing the old one is better style, though Jan 31 14:27:31 danijoo, I was thinking about doing it that way, but is it possible to make them appear in the same place? Jan 31 14:27:43 or do I need to reuse the old one to do that Jan 31 14:28:11 CocoStorm: yes if u use RelativeLayout and place one above the other Jan 31 14:28:33 or with linear layout just below the other. If u hide the first one, the second one will move up Jan 31 14:28:51 danijoo, oh really? interesting, thanks! Jan 31 14:29:34 yeah just be sure to use View.GONE and not View.INVISIBLE Jan 31 14:30:01 because GONE makes it acually disappear (no space needed) while INVISIBLE makes it still use the same space Jan 31 14:30:24 Oh I see, yeah that's exactly what I need Jan 31 14:30:27 thanks :) Jan 31 14:31:16 you're welcome Jan 31 14:31:29 Such a productive and polite IRC channel. What's not to like? Jan 31 14:33:17 heh Jan 31 14:42:52 Hi. I would like to create an app that would get the contents of a div of a website. Is it difficult? Jan 31 14:43:32 And what's more important, is it possible? Jan 31 14:45:50 AzuleZ, the configuration occurs as part of the provider update Jan 31 14:46:46 communis-cookie its not hard at all Jan 31 14:47:26 communist-cookie, really easy Jan 31 14:47:36 DOSP: any advise what should i google or any tutorials? Jan 31 14:47:44 HTMLCleaner is a fairly good library for java Jan 31 14:48:08 http://www.programmingmobile.com/2012/01/tutorial-scraping-html-with-htmlcleaner.html Jan 31 14:48:46 communist-cookie as jonc-1 said Jan 31 14:48:53 uhm Jan 31 14:48:56 http://www.programmingmobile.com/2012/01/tutorial-scraping-html-with-htmlcleaner.html in case you missed it Jan 31 14:48:59 could you repeat? Jan 31 14:49:06