**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 12 02:59:58 2014 Mar 12 03:02:15 assets can have subs Mar 12 03:10:27 patch aapt to support subs, easy Mar 12 03:11:52 i doubt its easy. what happens when you have duplicate file names in subfolders? Mar 12 03:12:32 at least thats enforced by the os when everything is jammed into one folder ;) Mar 12 03:13:05 following adt-dev google group, i'm always amazed at the interesting corner cases people find that break the tools Mar 12 03:13:17 the build process is pretty complex Mar 12 03:15:04 http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system/build-workflow Mar 12 03:15:15 i'm amazed it works at all :) Mar 12 03:16:35 g00s: omg, hide that diagram under a bed or something Mar 12 03:18:32 why is it that view == widget? seems like two words for the same thing Mar 12 03:19:19 Alright, so any program that checks for time and other system-kept values has to make a syscall on Android, right? Mar 12 03:19:20 maybe one word is used more by programmers and the other by normal people Mar 12 03:19:34 Can I make a program that intercepts those syscalls and impersonates the response? Mar 12 03:19:41 g00s, easy, fail and say there are duplicates Mar 12 03:20:17 no Mar 12 03:21:08 g00s, and you're speaking to someone who has intimate knowledge of the build process... Mar 12 03:23:01 navigation drawers start on the right for right-to-left languages? *mind blown* Mar 12 03:25:33 i could definitely use assets Mar 12 03:25:40 but then that means writing a custom adapter for my dropdown :P Mar 12 03:25:47 which is woooork Mar 12 03:26:53 I just made a really dumb mistake Mar 12 03:27:03 nested for loop, mixed up my i's and j's :D Mar 12 03:30:30 custom adapter? say what Mar 12 03:30:38 trivial Mar 12 03:30:50 hello Mar 12 03:31:02 does anyone know some alternative library to pretty time? Mar 12 03:31:43 I would like to make human readable dates Mar 12 03:31:44 like Mar 12 03:31:49 "2 seconds ago" Mar 12 03:31:55 3 days ago Mar 12 03:31:56 etc. Mar 12 03:32:01 with language support Mar 12 03:32:29 pfn: was your No directed to me? Mar 12 03:32:41 pfn, I know I know, but it's still work Mar 12 03:33:30 gordon_ android has utilities for that, have you seen those already ? Mar 12 03:38:47 frankdrey / pfn, now i think it would be cool if you could have subfolders, but each one becomes another nested class in R. so res/drawable/foo/foo.xml becomes R.drawable.foo.foo Mar 12 03:39:11 yes Mar 12 03:39:19 this lets one easily map iso 11179 naming conventions onto the physical layout of res/ Mar 12 03:39:22 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_element_name Mar 12 03:40:09 g00s: hmm no Mar 12 03:40:33 we're using prettytime now Mar 12 03:40:42 seeems like I can make my own translation for that Mar 12 03:40:57 gordon_ stuff in http://developer.android.com/reference/android/text/format/package-summary.html Mar 12 03:42:44 g00s: thanks Mar 12 03:42:53 they're using pretty time Mar 12 03:43:01 so I will try to custom existing code Mar 12 03:43:08 if not, I will move to your link Mar 12 03:43:54 like http://developer.android.com/reference/android/text/format/DateUtils.html#getRelativeDateTimeString(android.content.Context, long, long, long, int) Mar 12 03:45:07 thanks Mar 12 03:46:06 3 mins ago, 10:15 AM Mar 12 03:46:17 can I get rid of 10:15 AM in that example ? Mar 12 03:48:02 not sure Mar 12 03:48:41 help me, how to random database sqlite....i have trivia quiz and correct id is 1 and incorrect id is 0 so what am i do bro? i want to random it Mar 12 03:50:31 creatorb1: dont see a problem ? Mar 12 03:50:38 fetch data and random it Mar 12 03:50:48 g00s: i didnt consider nest R classes Mar 12 03:50:52 thats actually brilliant Mar 12 03:52:21 gordon_ yeah i have inserted public Cursor getRandom() {Cursor cursor = myDataBase.rawQuery( "SELECT * FROM Questions ORDER BY RANDOM() LIMIT 1", null); if (cursor.moveToFirst()) {return cursor;}return cursor; } but not work Mar 12 03:54:35 desmin88 all my good ideas come from my dog :D Mar 12 03:54:49 damn Mar 12 03:54:59 the secret revealed Mar 12 03:55:05 XD Mar 12 03:55:55 creatorb1: order by random ? Mar 12 03:56:10 that doesnt look good Mar 12 03:56:22 first you need to fetch data Mar 12 03:56:28 and iterate through it Mar 12 03:56:30 and save to db Mar 12 03:57:04 but here you're fetching questions and ordering by number ? Mar 12 03:57:12 can you order by some cloumn Mar 12 03:57:14 *column Mar 12 04:00:29 gordon_ yah my app has been builded, but not random so i want to random it, but i dont know so i search in google and take it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8369767/random-in-sqlite-and-android-sdk but not work, so what am i do bro... my structure db is have a table question and answer, in the answer have a many column like as _id quizID questionID isCorrect and answertext nah i put in is correct number 0 for false and 1 for true Mar 12 04:00:56 you know what'd be great? if, when you're using Android Studio or Eclipse with the ADT, when you F3 on an R resource in a .java file, it takes you to that resource, instead of the R file Mar 12 04:04:20 barbs: not like intellij is doing that... Mar 12 04:04:50 is intellij doing that? Damn, wonder why my Android Studio doesn't do that? Mar 12 04:05:05 creatorb1: do you expect from me to provide you code? :) Mar 12 04:05:23 barbs: when I press cmd + b it takes me to xml resource file Mar 12 04:05:49 hmm, i've got eclipse shortcuts on, cmd + b builds the app for me :P Mar 12 04:05:54 maybes there's a shortcut somewhere then... Mar 12 04:06:24 ok gordon_ i will send to you via pm now...but waiting a few minute, i must upload it :) Mar 12 04:12:44 gordon_ bro? Mar 12 04:15:33 what kind of things will happen if i use Asynctask for a very long time? :P Mar 12 04:15:51 sort of feel like i wont understand another way to go about it haha Mar 12 04:18:58 bluezone: probably nothing Mar 12 04:19:21 if you need to download something big Mar 12 04:19:28 or calculate Mar 12 04:19:31 do it in service Mar 12 04:29:37 of course someone discovered cool library Mar 12 04:29:41 which is not in maven Mar 12 04:30:03 is it possible to upload android projects to maven ? Mar 12 04:30:17 as android projects I mean android library projects Mar 12 04:41:02 Anyone up ? Mar 12 04:41:25 JakeWharton so, i need to buffer messages to a service (queue) if the service is offline. Is Tape a good fit for this ? Mar 12 04:42:00 kind of Mar 12 04:42:12 the API is less than ideal Mar 12 04:42:46 Ok guys look I need help I have a simple app using QuickBlox API and I'm not getting lint errors, logcat or debug problems I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to see if they can run with eclipse Mar 12 04:43:07 any get any sort of error Mar 12 04:43:28 CodeBee: what's the problem then ? Mar 12 04:44:01 gordon_ com.hope_center... process has unexpectably stopped when run on emulator or phone Mar 12 04:44:06 but no logcat errors or anything Mar 12 04:45:01 ugh Mar 12 04:45:16 without logcat it can be anything Mar 12 04:45:28 Exactly how I feel man Mar 12 04:46:50 gordon_ got time ? lol Mar 12 04:51:53 not really Mar 12 04:52:07 and I'm intellij guy Mar 12 04:52:08 so.. Mar 12 05:02:16 hm Mar 12 05:02:25 anyone used pretty time before ? Mar 12 05:02:48 it's said that I need to put Resources_en.java in class path Mar 12 05:03:02 but then dex is shouting at me like Mar 12 05:03:10 Android Dex: [taptrip2-android] Unable to execute DX Mar 12 05:03:16 Android Dex: [taptrip2-android] com.android.dex.DexException: Multiple dex files define Lorg/ocpsoft/prettytime/i18n/Resources_en; Mar 12 05:05:05 is it possible to override existing class in classpath or rather it's a no-no Mar 12 05:05:58 ah Mar 12 05:06:04 Simply place an appropriate Resources_**.properties Mar 12 05:06:43 wish it would work :) Mar 12 05:12:19 multiple dex files defined means you're importing something twice Mar 12 05:14:23 gordon_ you may have to use the gradle exclude thingy; i never used it but remember in case i see that error Mar 12 05:14:53 see notes for 0.7.1 http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system Mar 12 05:15:09 or maybe you have another issue ;) Mar 12 05:15:10 they'll have to change that path soon, it's not "new" any more Mar 12 05:15:49 i was glad to see they rewrote the docs for 0.9 Mar 12 05:16:00 eventually, it will have to be moved to the official site Mar 12 05:16:43 g00s: but it's from docs Mar 12 05:16:52 seems like I need to create properties Mar 12 05:16:58 I did but they're omitted Mar 12 05:17:07 how to live... Mar 12 05:18:50 hello everyone Mar 12 05:20:13 can anybody tell how to store password in android app? Mar 12 05:20:54 easy way - don't :) Mar 12 05:21:34 and if i want checkbox like 'Remember me'? Mar 12 05:22:00 OAuth Mar 12 05:22:20 it is necessary to ensure that each time the user did not enter a password Mar 12 05:22:29 Ok guys look I need help I have a simple app using QuickBlox API and I'm not getting lint errors, logcat or debug problems I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to see if they can run with eclipse Mar 12 05:27:27 what a stupid lib Mar 12 05:31:21 huh, TIL AS actually has the heuristic formatters for XML from eclipse/ADT in Prefs -> Code Style -> XML -> Arrangement Mar 12 05:31:40 i guess i never noticed it, because in eclipse i always saved ctrl-S and that triggered it Mar 12 05:31:54 but we don't save in AS, so you have to explicitly format Mar 12 05:32:07 I'm confused about the documentation pertaining to Google Maps Utility library. It states "The Google Maps Android API utility library supports Android API level 8 and above. The animated re-clustering features are only available for Android API level 14 and above." So does that mean the clustering feature works on API 8 and above, with just the animation portion missing until API 14? Mar 12 05:33:03 * g00s has no idea Mar 12 05:33:46 dlaroche: we are using google maps v2 on 2.3 Mar 12 05:34:40 gordon_: but what about the clustering feature that allows the clustering of your markers at different zoom levels? Is this supported in API 8 and above? Mar 12 05:35:22 havent used it Mar 12 05:35:29 ugh Mar 12 05:35:29 so cannot tell Mar 12 05:35:48 just check Mar 12 05:35:55 hi Mar 12 05:36:02 i am having trouble Mar 12 05:36:05 Games.Leaderboards.loadCurrentPlayerLeaderboardScore(getApiClient(), getString(R.string.highscore), LeaderboardVariant.TIME_SPAN_ALL_TIME, LeaderboardVariant.COLLECTION_PUBLIC); Mar 12 05:36:07 and the docs page for the library doesn't indicate what API level each class accepts Mar 12 05:36:15 i want to retrive leaderboard score Mar 12 05:36:38 but how can i receive the return value by above function Mar 12 05:37:10 hm, i think i will try openHFT/java-chronicle with a Tailer and Appender for my queue Mar 12 05:38:43 i was hoping to find a "fast tracked persisted queue" but this should be good Mar 12 05:39:37 persisted? as in the queue lives on disk? Mar 12 05:40:48 fast track lives in memory / disk Mar 12 05:41:09 if the reader is fast enough it grans straight from memory Mar 12 05:41:13 *grabs Mar 12 05:41:36 if not, it winds up on disk, and it pulls from there Mar 12 05:42:24 but chronicle could be so fast i don't need that. seems like no GC either Mar 12 05:42:41 or < 1 object of garbage per event Mar 12 05:42:53 JesusFreke what are you up to these days Mar 12 05:43:11 been hacking on a smali plugin for idea Mar 12 05:43:18 :O Mar 12 05:43:30 that was inevitable :D Mar 12 05:43:40 debugging at the bytecode level = <3 Mar 12 05:44:05 Can anyone test my app please if you hav e time ? Mar 12 05:45:51 i read about the fast track queue impl here www.cs.gonzaga.edu/~bowers/papers/swf-2011.pdf‎ Mar 12 05:45:59 but its still pretty high level Mar 12 05:46:10 not found Mar 12 05:46:26 also, if you can't find one, sounds like a good project ;) Mar 12 05:46:34 what's smali ? Mar 12 05:46:52 ok I see Mar 12 05:46:56 An assembler/disassembler for Android's dex format Mar 12 05:47:00 n/m, I got it. the link had some crap characters at the end for some reason Mar 12 05:47:09 well, good luck ;) Mar 12 05:48:11 luck doesn't have much to do with it. I'm not using a genetic algorithm :p Mar 12 05:48:57 ah you're just writing plugin ? Mar 12 05:49:06 did they add more docs to plugin development ? Mar 12 05:49:15 last time I wanted to add something it was terrible Mar 12 05:49:32 Yeah, there are some docs, but for the majority of stuff, you just have to dive into the code and figure it out Mar 12 05:49:43 JesusFreke seriously, using GA ? Mar 12 05:49:48 thats stuff is so much fun Mar 12 05:50:04 g00s: no, I said I'm *not* :p Mar 12 05:50:08 ah dam it Mar 12 05:50:56 genetic algoritms.. Mar 12 05:51:12 sound image recognition funnier ;P Mar 12 05:51:15 *found Mar 12 05:57:16 who the hell hardcores package in class and doesnt provide new way to read resources.... Mar 12 05:57:34 instanceof in code Mar 12 06:01:49 hm quick question about this lint warning. in a fragment, i'm doing getActivity() a few times to get the context. it says it can be null. however, if i don't have a thread outliving the activity, is it really necessary to guard against that ? Mar 12 06:09:15 Hey any idea how to use the internal and hidden apis from eclipse? Mar 12 06:22:32 Mind_Hacker, i don't know what you mean :P Mar 12 06:22:44 Give me some ideas on how to send SMS on a specific time. Mar 12 06:23:26 bluezone: Well there are internal apis in the sdk that are hidden from devs. Mar 12 06:24:20 They control the phones basic functions like network changing,calls,etc Mar 12 06:24:27 oh Mar 12 06:25:40 i'm not sure hehe, i didn't know those things were hidden, wouldn't you have to NDK to control those things? i dunno :P Mar 12 06:26:24 I read somewhere that you could hack the plugin and the emulator to make them available. Mar 12 06:27:25 But that tut is old now Mar 12 06:27:44 if they keep them hidden it must be for secruity i would think Mar 12 06:28:12 security* Mar 12 06:28:17 Yes.Those can only be used with root access I think. Mar 12 06:29:25 I just wanted to change the network type with an app. Mar 12 06:29:50 i see Mar 12 06:31:20 bankai_ try rxjava 0.17 yet? work ok ? Mar 12 06:34:17 anybody for me? Mar 12 06:35:19 santosh, i think i remember reading something about using @(annotations) for getting methods to run at specific times but i can't find it now :P Mar 12 06:35:27 Is it possible to make a class containing an IBinder parcelable? Mar 12 06:35:48 I mean with actually considering the ibinder member Mar 12 06:41:14 hello Mar 12 06:41:15 guys Mar 12 06:41:18 any one here Mar 12 06:41:24 i want some help Mar 12 06:41:26 no :O Mar 12 06:41:38 that's cool Mar 12 06:41:45 i want to convert PendingResult to int Mar 12 06:41:49 how can i do this Mar 12 06:42:01 i tried toString method Mar 12 06:42:32 what exactly does the method do Mar 12 06:42:52 PendingResult i = Games.Leaderboards.loadCurrentPlayerLeaderboardScore(getApiClient(), getString(R.string.highscore), LeaderboardVariant.TIME_SPAN_ALL_TIME, LeaderboardVariant.COLLECTION_PUBLIC); Mar 12 06:42:59 return the leaderboard score Mar 12 06:43:40 s Mar 12 06:43:49 * Leeds thinks lots of context missing Mar 12 06:43:56 what is the return type Mar 12 06:44:09 PendingResult Mar 12 06:46:05 good on the moro Mar 12 06:46:20 afternoon Mar 12 06:47:14 anon_555, i don't know you need to ginf a way to make a toInt() method for the PendingResult class to make i.toInt() return what you want Mar 12 06:47:32 i dont have enough context to help, and even if i did that looks like a big headache haha Mar 12 06:47:43 find* Mar 12 06:50:53 good morning lemonxah Mar 12 06:50:57 any one want to exchange rate and review for app Mar 12 06:51:09 I've got some data in an arraylist which I want to share with several components, including a Service Mar 12 06:51:19 so I made it a member of my Application Mar 12 06:51:30 anon_555 your question is baffling; i don't think anyone know what you are asking :) Mar 12 06:51:30 can there be a case where the Application is killed, but my service is running? Mar 12 06:51:43 my service needs that data to stick around in memory Mar 12 06:52:13 :D Mar 12 06:52:28 RustyShackleford sticking stuff in Application sucks Mar 12 06:52:39 just make a singleton or something Mar 12 06:52:55 or make it a static member of the component that owns it Mar 12 06:53:01 owns it most :) Mar 12 06:53:09 anon_555 please, main channel Mar 12 06:53:21 well I need to open a file, parse it, and then stick that data into the arraylist Mar 12 06:53:27 how to random data sqlite, i have created my trivia quiz app but not random, so what am i do? i want to random question and random answer? :) Mar 12 06:53:31 will a singleton work? Mar 12 06:54:21 creatorb1 bro … google SQL select random row Mar 12 06:56:43 g00s yeah i know bro, when i'm not confused with gugel tutorial i don't asking on here :) i get this on google, public Cursor getRandom() {Cursor cursor = myDataBase.rawQuery( "SELECT * FROM your_table_name_here ORDER BY RANDOM() LIMIT your_limit", null); if (cursor.moveToFirst()) {return cursor; }return cursor; } but not work so i asking on here i hope someone learn to me step by step :D Mar 12 06:56:54 g00s: no i haven't tried it yet, give me time :P Mar 12 06:57:29 creatorb1 try #sqlite Mar 12 07:00:37 g00s: nobody respect :v Mar 12 07:01:42 pfft whatever Dangerfield Mar 12 07:02:19 creatorb1 did you address chunkyK as bro? Mar 12 07:02:24 hehe Mar 12 07:02:46 i did not see the bro .. i would have shouted so hard Mar 12 07:03:03 i hate it when kids call me bro or bru or dude or .. Mar 12 07:03:08 bra Mar 12 07:03:09 .. Mar 12 07:03:12 anyway Mar 12 07:03:19 kohii o kudasai Mar 12 07:03:20 so that happens in your parts too eh Mar 12 07:04:13 PendingResult i = Games.Leaderboards.loadCurrentPlayerLeaderboardScore(getApiClient(), getString(R.string.highscore), LeaderboardVariant.TIME_SPAN_ALL_TIME, LeaderboardVariant.COLLECTION_PUBLIC); Mar 12 07:04:23 how to convert i to int Mar 12 07:04:34 I think the bronomenon is in most internet-attached or western-exported cultures now Mar 12 07:04:44 lemonxah by any chance, did you analyze mqtt / paho memory performance ? Mar 12 07:04:48 i simple want to get leaderboard highscore from google play Mar 12 07:04:52 import eclipse project as library project in gradle ? Mar 12 07:05:20 kamol rephrase as a complete thought Mar 12 07:05:33 g00s: chunkyK? what do you mean ?? Mar 12 07:06:02 anon_555: Using the potté d plan t. Mar 12 07:06:15 :g00s specific is, https://github.com/dalinaum/PinterestLikeAdapterView which is written in eclipse. And I want to import that Library Project into Android Studio, which is in gradle Mar 12 07:06:36 i've got some kml and gpx files. How can I send mock location data to my phone now? Mar 12 07:06:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJxJZk1xH5k&t=48s Mar 12 07:06:58 the docs send you in a loop lol.http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/location/strategies.html#MockData Mar 12 07:07:15 click "using DDMS" and it sends you back to that link haha Mar 12 07:07:34 kamol maybe this is easier to use then https://github.com/etsy/AndroidStaggeredGrid Mar 12 07:07:38 Open DDMS and start reading the tooltips for buttons. Mar 12 07:08:11 :g00s hahaha, nice! Tq!!! Mar 12 07:09:54 I am going to get absolutely nothing done tomorrow Mar 12 07:10:03 :g00s awesome!!! hahaha Mar 12 07:10:11 ;) Mar 12 07:10:26 Nilium did you get anything done today :) Mar 12 07:10:27 Dark Souls 2 is out and I will have it by then. It's probably going to destroy my productivity for a week. Mar 12 07:10:30 g00s is my saviour! Mar 12 07:10:39 if only I wan't married Mar 12 07:11:02 I spent a while working on my MD3 converter stuff and partially working on the next version of my blog tool. Mar 12 07:11:14 :v Mar 12 07:11:33 They're both written in Go, so I spent an hour trying to get the profiler working then found out a kernel bug in OS X prevents it from working correctly. Mar 12 07:11:39 i wonder how much time it's going to take me to get a high-end understanding of android develeopment :S Mar 12 07:11:57 development* Mar 12 07:12:03 After that I went back to primitive profiling: `time ash dothings` Mar 12 07:12:36 Nilium do you think the kernel bug will be fixed ? Mar 12 07:13:01 maybe just make a little linux vm so you can use your profiling tool :) Mar 12 07:13:07 No. Was submitted as an issue to Apple in 2011 and nothing has happened. Mar 12 07:13:19 If it doesn't affect Apple, it won't get fixed. Mar 12 07:13:30 bah Mar 12 07:13:32 that sucks Mar 12 07:14:12 At any rate, I'm pretty happy with how the MD3 converter's turning out. It can currently read ~500 models in 16 seconds if I give it three or four cores to work with. Mar 12 07:14:47 Two cores is more like 22 seconds and one core is around 30 seconds. So it's definitely benefiting from the concurrency features in Go. Mar 12 07:15:52 There are probably more things I could do concurrently but the largest bottleneck is probably just IO since I read the entire file into memory to ease the process of splitting it into discrete tasks. Mar 12 07:16:41 sounds like you're learning some cool stuff Mar 12 07:17:27 So reading ~1gb of files into memory probably isn't going to get much better. I can think of ways to improve what it's already doing, but that's also not really worth the trouble since it's not really necessary to ever work on 500 models at a time. Mar 12 07:17:29 Just happens that using 500 models makes it easy to measure. Mar 12 07:22:18 hey how do I use onResoreInstanceState in a fragment keep getting an error cannot resolve method? Mar 12 07:24:57 can you use mock locations on a physical device? The menu is greyed out Mar 12 07:26:43 guys how can i test the app in all size resolutions screen from pc Mar 12 07:26:48 is that only for the emulator perhaps? Mar 12 07:27:13 g00s: that's apple for you :) Mar 12 07:27:17 anybody have a good knowledge of working with google play game service Mar 12 07:28:01 RustyShackleford, in the phone settings there should be an "allow mock locations" setting Mar 12 07:28:12 it is checked Mar 12 07:28:41 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11498936/simulate-mock-location-on-android-device-via-ddms this post doesn't look encouraging Mar 12 07:32:13 When you set requestWindowFeature(Window.FEATURE_INDETERMINATE_PROGRESS); you're able to (activity).setProgressBarIndeterminateVisibility(Boolean.TRUE); and a spinner shows up in the actionbar Is it possible to change this spinner ? Mar 12 07:32:26 basically getting null when passing in uri after camera is used... anyone have the same issue? Mar 12 07:34:17 tagrudev i'd like to know too; mine is too light for the background Mar 12 07:36:10 g00s, yeah I searched for that yesterday but no success so far, I am just trying to make it smaller Mar 12 07:36:26 oh yeah , its pretty big :) Mar 12 07:36:47 I would fire a question in stackoverflow hope someone knows Mar 12 07:37:03 like, "whoa!" watch out for the actionbar spinner Mar 12 07:40:30 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22344923/how-can-i-change-the-spinner-of-window-feature-indeterminate-progress-in-actionb Mar 12 07:40:33 there it goes Mar 12 07:40:38 tagrudev, g00s, from the source, defining a style for indeterminateProgressStyle might work Mar 12 07:41:05 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9162481/styling-indeterminate-progressbar-on-actionbar Mar 12 07:41:53 I would try that alex_PP moment Mar 12 07:41:58 cool, thanks alex_PP Mar 12 07:44:51 damn anyone here use the camera before? Mar 12 07:45:16 i've decided to avoid the "troube" apis :) Mar 12 07:45:24 so i'm using bluetooth :( Mar 12 07:45:59 the image url keeps coming back as null if a camera pic is taken : / Mar 12 07:49:11 alex_PP, thank you I can accept your answer in stackoverflow if you paste it there :) Mar 12 07:49:14 it works Mar 12 07:49:37 g00s, you seem like someone with a good knowledge of android dev, if you don't mind me asking, how long did it take you to get a decent knowledge of it ? :P Mar 12 07:49:44 don't worry about it tagrudev Mar 12 07:50:08 :) thanks again Mar 12 07:50:33 bluezone well, when i started in 2009 a lot of 'best practices' and patterns were tribal knowledge. nowadays, there are so many good blogs, resources, devbytes, etc Mar 12 07:50:48 the books also sucked back then Mar 12 07:51:05 it seems like to books suck now too, havent been able to find any good one's Mar 12 07:51:09 i think it would take at least 3 months Mar 12 07:51:13 3-6 mos Mar 12 07:51:17 ok Mar 12 07:51:28 it too me maybe a year Mar 12 07:51:53 but, really not that good at android. i especially stink on the UI stuff Mar 12 07:52:22 fragments are a little rough to understand haha Mar 12 07:52:24 i find the view / widget apis difficult Mar 12 07:53:06 do you know of any good books? i honestly cannot find anything that looks even remotely useful :S Mar 12 07:53:52 g00s: i have asked on #sqlite but nobody can help me bro? maybe you have more suggest....... Mar 12 07:54:35 i'm all out of suggests Mar 12 07:54:49 bluezone did you see the nerd ranch one ? Mar 12 07:55:00 g00s, yeah is that any good? Mar 12 07:55:06 other than that, just Reto's. i guess they are getting out of date Mar 12 07:55:12 yeah Mar 12 07:55:31 there seems to be a lack of them Mar 12 07:55:47 as if nobody knows what the best practices are so they are sacred to write a book on it :D Mar 12 07:56:22 'Android in Practice' was one of those books … but it also is out of date Mar 12 08:03:18 is the reto meir one any good? Mar 12 08:03:27 whoops Mar 12 08:04:28 bluezone also back then, things were a bit simpler. i mean, you could spend a few weeks just reading about groovy / gradle. that conceptual surface >> ant builds Mar 12 08:04:45 also, now we try to make apps that work on phone and tablets, in 2009 it was much simpler Mar 12 08:04:56 yeah Mar 12 08:05:10 many different screen sizes zzzzz Mar 12 08:05:31 g00s, i think i will buy the Reto book Mar 12 08:05:40 doesnt look too outdated hehe Mar 12 08:05:55 bluezone hmm, ok. its pretty thick :D Mar 12 08:06:13 yeah it's going to take me a decade to read :( Mar 12 08:06:45 bluezone balance this, with the probability there will be one or 2 announcement of new android by I/O Mar 12 08:07:00 one supposedly in the next few weeks, for different wearable form factors Mar 12 08:07:08 and i bet at I/O there will be an update Mar 12 08:07:32 so, i'd probably just try to get by with either the existing guides, or the most recent (nerd ranch) Mar 12 08:07:42 but reto was good, he had the best coverage of the canvas and stuff Mar 12 08:07:59 hmm ok Mar 12 08:08:23 the android guides are pretty good Mar 12 08:08:31 its the javadocs which are terrible in many places Mar 12 08:08:43 yes they don't explain anything properly Mar 12 08:08:50 rarely any examples etc. lol Mar 12 08:11:18 unfortunately, i think google relied a little too much on SO for their documentation ;) Mar 12 08:11:28 .. replacement for good docuementation Mar 12 08:12:36 g00s you ever work with the camera api? Mar 12 08:12:49 no Mar 12 08:12:55 damn Mar 12 08:14:03 hi guys how can i retreive user highscore from google play game service Mar 12 08:14:13 it used to have a bad reputation for differences across oems; not sure these days if things are better Mar 12 08:14:25 for example, oems reporting wrong features, etc Mar 12 08:16:12 another issue I have if anyone has it, I disabled firewall but still get no get request on my server from my device, connected to wifi went from my browser to the ip still not working Mar 12 08:17:22 can anybody help with authorization? Mar 12 08:18:57 what kind of authroization Mar 12 08:19:42 external php-api Mar 12 08:19:47 server Mar 12 08:20:09 i don't know how to realize checkbox 'remember me' Mar 12 08:20:21 how to store pass in device Mar 12 08:21:29 E/JHEAD﹕ can't open '/storage/emulated anyone know what that means Mar 12 08:21:44 maybe store hash of password in sharedprefs? Mar 12 08:35:46 probably best to store some kind of 'token' or using oauth Mar 12 08:36:12 does anyone know how to make a mysql connection on android? Mar 12 08:36:34 you're going to have to Google for that, NimbusBP1729 Mar 12 08:36:41 too primitive Mar 12 08:36:49 lol Mar 12 08:36:54