**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 02 02:59:58 2014
May 02 03:02:09 <Leeds> phix: is there any reason to believe it uses a different API?
May 02 03:05:29 <Leeds> phix: and presumably you've read http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17616994/offline-speech-recognition-in-android-jellybean
May 02 03:06:20 <phix> Leeds: I see
May 02 03:06:54 <phix> I would like to do the recognition in the background instead of via the voice recorder app
May 02 03:10:27 <C01N_oP> anyone know if its "possible" to unlock a locked motorola bootloader?
May 02 03:10:46 <Leeds> C01N_oP: #android-root
May 02 03:11:16 <C01N_oP> Leeds: my fault, i thought thats where this was lol
May 02 03:11:43 <bankai_au> damn auto correct
May 02 03:25:48 <g00s> Leeds pfn ever use this with screen? http://mosh.mit.edu/
May 02 03:26:17 <Omnipotent> Mosh is amazing.
May 02 03:26:42 <Omnipotent> There is no easy way to do PuTTY with Mosh
May 02 03:26:47 <Omnipotent> only the CygWin way
May 02 03:26:52 <Omnipotent> *sobs*
May 02 03:28:18 <pfn> why mosh with putty
May 02 03:28:31 <pfn> not really the use case on a desktop
May 02 03:28:53 <pfn> and no, I rarely ssh from mobile to care about mosh
May 02 03:29:53 <g00s> someone on HN says official support for lambdas is coming soon. i wonder how he knows that
May 02 03:30:06 <bankai_au> official from whom ?
May 02 03:31:49 <g00s> bankai_au reading https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7680338
May 02 03:31:52 <pfn> Probably api20
May 02 03:32:23 <g00s> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7681472
May 02 03:32:28 <g00s> is the comment
May 02 03:33:06 <vrlogrs> hi guys .. hoping this will be a better channel to ask for some good tutorials/guides for android development
May 02 03:33:26 <vrlogrs> looking to eventually build a few apps for a game-site
May 02 03:33:48 <vrlogrs> if you have any suggestions for tutorials, please do advise
May 02 03:35:11 <pfn> want lambdas? use scala
May 02 03:35:18 <pfn> problem solved
May 02 03:35:36 <bankai_au> and you can be cool like pfn
May 02 03:36:00 <vrlogrs> hmm?
May 02 03:36:39 <g00s> i don't think i'm smart enough to learn scala
May 02 03:36:55 <pfn> who needs to be smart
May 02 03:37:04 <MalekAlrwily> whats happen if i use a deprecated method?
May 02 03:37:11 <pfn> just start off treating it like java
May 02 03:37:35 <pfn> Add advanced features as you understand where they're applicable
May 02 03:38:47 <pfn> MalekAlrwily, nothing, some day it may become disabled
May 02 03:39:44 <MalekAlrwily> ok
May 02 03:48:50 <cycl0ps> g00s: #sqlite throw me back here :o
May 02 03:49:26 <shmooz> the ball is in our court now
May 02 03:50:05 * bankai_au grabs the ball, stabs it with a knife and lets it flop to the ground
May 02 03:50:10 <bankai_au> your move
May 02 03:50:15 <Omnipotent> you mean the cycl0ps is in our court now
May 02 03:51:25 <g00s> bankai_au ball is now ready for tug-of-war between the dogs !
May 02 03:52:39 <bankai_au> what's the problem with sqlite ?
May 02 03:59:04 <capella> sandisk 4tb ssd .... drools ....
May 02 04:00:35 <g00s> capella is it reliable ?
May 02 04:00:44 <g00s> i thought only the intel ones were worth it
May 02 04:01:26 <capella> I guess we'll see :) It'd seem un-intuitive to release a highend product prone to failures tho
May 02 04:01:45 <g00s> hmmm
May 02 04:02:04 <capella> price-to-performance is probably the key ... still reading ...
May 02 04:03:15 <capella> "The new SSD can take three full drive writes a day for five years"
May 02 04:09:16 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: I need help about sqlite3 error "register_localized_collators() failed" everytime I try to open a .db on Terminal Emulator
May 02 04:09:27 <bankai_au> what's that got to do with android ?
May 02 04:17:15 <Justin_T> Hi, i think i got a bad concept for fragments and I need some help (sorry for my english)
May 02 04:18:02 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: I'm using it on my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
May 02 04:18:25 <bankai_au> using what? are you a developer ?
May 02 04:18:33 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: I can read it on my PC but not on android
May 02 04:19:30 <Justin_T> I have an main class with navigation drawer that extends SherlockFragmentActivity, then I have 2 class that extends SherlockFragment, I have everything setup as the example on developer.android.com for the navigation drawer
May 02 04:20:03 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: using android Terminal Emulator
May 02 04:20:20 <bankai_au> cycl0ps: what is that, an app? email the developer ...
May 02 04:21:00 <capella> Use aSQLiteManager
May 02 04:21:12 <Justin_T> in the selectItem() method of the main class (the one that the class use for select items from the drawer), I have a FragmentManager for fill the content with each fragment depending on selected option from the menu
May 02 04:21:40 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: no.....I'm typing a shell command on the terminal : sqlite3 launcher.db & the error pops out
May 02 04:23:15 <bankai_au> cycl0ps: does it work with your SQLiteOpenHelper code ?
May 02 04:23:19 <Justin_T> my problem is when the app is open I call the first fragment which has a listview and do some task in background to get the date, then if I click on another option and try to come back to the last one my fragment is restarted :/
May 02 04:24:19 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: I'm not developing an app....just use sqlite3 to rename icons & to fix TouchWiz blank icon bug
May 02 04:24:30 <bankai_au> cycl0ps: then no one in this channel can help you
May 02 04:24:44 <capella> aSQLiteManager
May 02 04:25:11 <capella> actually, I bought mine ... the donate version is dSQLiteManager
May 02 04:25:31 <cycl0ps> #android channel throw me here, g00s throw me to #sqlite & they throw me back here :p
May 02 04:25:50 <bankai_au> don't care, not the right channel, bye
May 02 04:26:12 <g00s> cycl0ps if you read the topic, nobody's time would be wasted
May 02 04:26:52 * capella confused ...  I use aSQLiteManager for app development ...
May 02 04:27:07 <capella> and the question could be deemed reasonable
May 02 04:27:43 <cycl0ps> g00s: the topic is about dev right, & sqlite3 is one of the tool for dev right? I wonder if someone here can help me with my problem....that's all I want
May 02 04:28:03 <capella> oh well, he must be ignoring me
May 02 04:28:14 <cycl0ps> capella: sorry.. I get you
May 02 04:28:18 <bankai_au> capella: isaw your messages, man, you're helpful, he's just dumb
May 02 04:28:31 <capella> heh ;)
May 02 04:28:41 <bankai_au> come here, i'll give you a hug :P
May 02 04:28:52 <cycl0ps> capella: my ROM has built in sqlite3 but for some reason it's not working anymore
May 02 04:29:09 <cycl0ps> capella: asked him about it but no answer
May 02 04:29:11 <bankai_au> can someone kick him ?
May 02 04:29:12 <capella> that'san entirely different question
May 02 04:29:43 <cycl0ps> capella: so I try to find an answer here, is that wrong bankai_au?
May 02 04:29:57 <bankai_au> yes
May 02 04:30:06 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: yes??
May 02 04:30:08 <Justin_T> Hi ?
May 02 04:30:16 <cycl0ps> Hi Justin_T
May 02 04:30:22 <capella> even I agree now :D
May 02 04:30:29 <bankai_au> are you developing something? no ? then this is the wrong channel
May 02 04:30:46 <Justin_T> me?
May 02 04:30:56 <bankai_au> Justin_T: not you :P
May 02 04:31:24 <Justin_T> hehe
May 02 04:31:29 <cycl0ps> bankai_au: I want to develop an app to rename icon....but how can I do it if a shell command is not working??
May 02 04:31:57 <capella> hahahahahaha
May 02 04:32:00 <bankai_au> what's the shell got to do with an app ?
May 02 04:32:17 <cycl0ps> the shell command is for testing sqlite3
May 02 04:32:48 <cycl0ps> ok...u know what, if you don't want to help is ok bankai_au...
May 02 04:33:06 <cycl0ps> thanx for the answer capella...I appreciate it
May 02 04:33:22 <cycl0ps> I'll try aSQLiteManager
May 02 04:33:38 <capella> then act on it? dont focus on a paritcular toold
May 02 04:33:46 <capella> *tool .. and good
May 02 04:35:28 <capella> problem solved, next victim
May 02 04:35:55 <Justin_T> here I am :P
May 02 04:36:14 <bankai_au> justin timberlake ?
May 02 04:36:30 <Justin_T> oh no lol
May 02 04:36:38 <Justin_T> you found me :P
May 02 04:36:49 <Justin_T> I have some problems with fragments
May 02 04:37:08 <Justin_T> and english is not my first language so sorry if I say something wrong
May 02 04:37:21 <bankai_au> oh yeah, why are you using ABS?
May 02 04:37:28 <JakeWharton> death to ABS!
May 02 04:37:41 <bankai_au> friggin hell, man ... you just hover for the words, don't ya ?
May 02 04:37:46 <JakeWharton> minSdkVersion="14" or GTFO!
May 02 04:38:12 <shmooz> not me, I still support 2.3
May 02 04:38:26 <JakeWharton> i'm sure those 6 users love the new features
May 02 04:38:36 <shmooz> you mean 6 billion
May 02 04:38:47 <JakeWharton> holy shit everyone on the planet has a Gingerbread phone!!!!
May 02 04:38:48 <shmooz> they still sell cheap 2.3 phones in china and india
May 02 04:39:01 <JakeWharton> and i'm sure they're all lining up to buy your app
May 02 04:39:27 <shmooz> my app is priceless heh!
May 02 04:39:48 <shmooz> but yeah I think I disagree with not supporting 2.3 and above
May 02 04:40:03 <JakeWharton> well you're allowed to be wrong
May 02 04:40:13 <JakeWharton> nobody said you have to stop them from downloading the current version of your app
May 02 04:40:42 <JakeWharton> but why are you wasting time and energy on a subset of users which 1. shrink daily, 2. are not monetizable, and 3. cause a MASSIVE reduction in quality for your app?
May 02 04:41:47 <shmooz> backwards compatibility is always a plus to me
May 02 04:42:03 <JakeWharton> the current version is 4.4
May 02 04:42:10 <JakeWharton> be backwards compatible to 4.0
May 02 04:42:11 <capella> Only two versions back ... after that ... point of vanishing returns
May 02 04:42:27 <g00s> soon, 4.5 … so 4.1 -> 4.5 :D
May 02 04:43:03 <g00s> well, who knows how much different the next android will be; seems like design changes are coming
May 02 04:43:18 <g00s> if thats the case, you can spend your effort working on that, or your GB friends
May 02 04:43:24 <shmooz> I still have a gingerbread phone and a lot of my friends do too
May 02 04:43:26 <Omnipotent> I hate that all apps are installed into phone :\
May 02 04:43:30 <Omnipotent> and not in SD card
May 02 04:43:44 <bankai_au> SD card? who the hell has one of those these days
May 02 04:43:49 <shmooz> instead of buying a new phone I got the nexus 7 tablet
May 02 04:43:52 <g00s> bankai_au one plus one right ?
May 02 04:44:06 <Omnipotent> bankai_au, eh?
May 02 04:44:24 <Omnipotent> bankai_au, so you store all the photos and media in phone storage?
May 02 04:44:30 <Omnipotent> you are just beyond "cool"
May 02 04:44:37 <capella> Or better yet the "Cloud" ... get a ChromePhone
May 02 04:44:39 <bankai_au> i haven't had a phone in years that's had an sd card
May 02 04:44:56 <Omnipotent> capella, and depend on network connectivity
May 02 04:45:06 <capella> yep XD
May 02 04:45:18 <Omnipotent> bankai_au, well, you probably don't use much storage.
May 02 04:45:45 <capella> they used to be called dumb terminals ...
May 02 04:45:59 <bankai_au> Omnipotent: which country are you in ?
May 02 04:46:28 <Omnipotent> bankai_au, the country doesn't really matter... network connectivity can be lost anywhere.
May 02 04:47:07 <bankai_au> i'm still stuck on this sd card thing, does samsung still do that? i honestly thought everyone ditched it
May 02 04:47:29 <shmooz> they do and support 128 GB
May 02 04:47:35 <Omnipotent> More like, Everyone except Nexus
May 02 04:47:53 <Omnipotent> you are like the only person I've seen who does not think that media should be stored on SD card
May 02 04:48:03 <Omnipotent> much more portability and device independence
May 02 04:48:47 <g00s> google wants you to store everything with them ! get in line !
May 02 04:48:51 <bankai_au> it's only device independent if everyone does it and i'm not against the idea, just misinformed about its status
May 02 04:49:06 <capella> my GS3 has extSdCard ... haven't checked the S4/S5
May 02 04:49:14 <bankai_au> HTC do it too ?
May 02 04:49:29 <shmooz> maybe someone should make an SSD slot so we can stick that 4TB drive to it
May 02 04:49:36 <capella> \o/
May 02 04:50:16 <sensen> S4 has SD card
May 02 04:50:43 <Omnipotent> bankai_au, as I said, everyone except Nexus people.
May 02 04:51:49 <misterli> is there any event fired before action_boot_completed or anyway to run some code before those triggers get registered?
May 02 04:53:38 <sensen> Omnipotent: It's the only thing I miss after switching to Nexus device.
May 02 04:54:48 <Omnipotent> ye
May 02 04:55:04 <Omnipotent> misterli, why do you want that?
May 02 04:55:11 <Omnipotent> on boot is basically on boot >_>
May 02 04:56:14 <misterli> well, there are a few thousand reason why an app should start running/processing before on_boot_complete(ED!) is triggered
May 02 05:01:16 <bankai_au> can you name 5?
May 02 05:21:15 <misterli> bankai_au, for reading/modify the filesystem before an app access it for example
May 02 05:21:22 <misterli> for removing unwanted apps before they got called
May 02 05:21:34 <misterli> for unregistering apps before they get their first triggers
May 02 05:21:36 <misterli> and so on..
May 02 06:15:51 <MalekAlrwily> please help: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c75fa9bd63b922ed7732
May 02 06:16:03 <MalekAlrwily> Stacktrace & full code
May 02 06:24:36 <itwenty> I need some help with RelativeLayout
May 02 06:25:42 <itwenty> Say I have two views side by side and I want a third view to go below the view which has greater height, how would I do that?
May 02 06:26:43 <itwenty> something like android:layout_below="<id of view with greater height>"
May 02 06:28:55 <g00s> don't think you can have a dynamic rule like that
May 02 06:29:12 <g00s> you'll have to specify the ID
May 02 06:30:37 <itwenty> hmm. one solution I can think of is wrapping the two side by side views in LinearLayout and then having android:layout_below="<id of linearlayout>"
May 02 06:37:06 <MalekAlrwily> please help again: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c75fa9bd63b922ed7732
May 02 06:39:28 <MalekAlrwily> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: x + width must be <= bitmap.width()
May 02 07:36:10 <Number5> Hello guys, I haven't programmed an Android app for a year now. Yesterday I've done some updating for Eclipse and Android tools. Now if I created a new project, it is supplied with an Actionbar and some support libraries to use action bar and fragments. Is this the new default way for a new project?
May 02 07:37:37 <bankai_au> yeah
May 02 07:41:19 <Number5> So actually the Android team recommends us to make use of ActionBar right?
May 02 07:42:29 <bankai_au> g00s: *giggles with excitement* wrote my own IOSScheduler hehe
May 02 07:44:19 <Number5> Another thing is, I created a project with minim SDK of 2.2 and surpsingly enough native Android ActionBar works on Android 2.2 too. I remember that it was only possible by using ActionBarSherlock. Does this mean ActionBarSherlock is not needed anymore?
May 02 07:44:51 <JakeWharton> there is no native action bar on pre-Honeycomb
May 02 07:48:59 <g00s> bankai_au for RAC ?
May 02 07:49:06 <bankai_au> rxjava with robovm
May 02 07:49:14 <g00s> ooh
May 02 07:49:39 <Number5> JakeWharton, ok, I mean the ActionBar that is supplied by the support libraries.
May 02 07:50:00 <JakeWharton> then yes, they're the same thing
May 02 07:51:52 <Number5> JakeWharton, ok, thnx for your answer.
May 02 07:53:36 <tophyr> is there any way to disable ANR protection? i'm trying to debug a test case and the system keeps killing the app due to ANR.
May 02 09:07:10 <jellybee> Hey folks, I'm experimenting with AdMob, I think I'm getting a very low eCPM - 34,218 impressions earned 10.65 USD which would be 0.32$ per a 1000 impressions.... is that low? very low? normal? high?
May 02 09:14:00 <Ankhwatcher> Hey, what permission do you need to use the KitKat step counter API?
May 02 09:14:06 <liefer> I know that you should not put a listview inside a scrollview, correct? But i have a layout: "<button /> <expandablelistview /> <button />" - and i would very much like for them all to scroll "together". How can i accomplish this, when i cannot wrap it all in a scrollview?
May 02 09:14:20 <Ankhwatcher> is it just the normal accelerometer permission or is there a specific one for it?
May 02 09:19:03 <Ankhwatcher> oh crap I just noticed this "Both step sensors are hardware dependent (Nexus 5 is the first device to support them)"
May 02 09:19:19 <Ankhwatcher> does anyone know where I can find a list of devices with hardware step sensors?
May 02 09:27:32 <johnc--> Hello, i'm learning from the sample SoftKeyboard, i've been searching the whole code as where to disable the character underlining while typing
May 02 09:28:25 <johnc-->  …Even if i dont use CandidateView it stills underline. Any clue please?
May 02 09:40:03 <Ankhwatcher> The second answer on this question suggests something which may work for you http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5504433/how-to-remove-the-underline-from-the-edittext-field-in-android
May 02 09:41:05 <johnc--> Ok
May 02 09:42:33 <MaNI> Anyone have any experience with DataWedge? I'm struggling to find any decent information, specifically I'm wondering if there is some way to create a data wedge profile programatically?
May 02 10:08:42 <Ankhwatcher> Seeing as Step Count is not going to be any help, does anyone know a good library for detecting steps?
May 02 10:09:50 <Ankhwatcher> or even just a good algorithm for comprehending accelerometer output
May 02 10:22:29 <SpeedEvil> Ankhwatcher: Kalman filter is generally the nuclear option
May 02 10:23:01 <SpeedEvil> Ankhwatcher: you work out where 'down' is using the gyros, and then look at accelleration varying about the 'down' axis and detect steps from that.
May 02 10:23:01 <apple741> I made a test purchase a few days ago but it seems I was charged even though I cancelled the order?
May 02 10:24:18 <Ankhwatcher> SpeedEvil: that sounds promising
May 02 10:24:35 <Ankhwatcher> what I have at the moment is an accelerator filling up the log with constant input
May 02 10:24:59 <vmusr> Hello, is it possible to use string array as values for radiogroup in the xml layout instead of adding the text programatically after that?
May 02 10:29:03 <Ankhwatcher> I'm trying to implement the algorithm from here: https://github.com/bagilevi/android-pedometer/blob/master/src/name/bagi/levente/pedometer/StepDetector.java
May 02 10:29:09 <Ankhwatcher> at the moment
May 02 10:42:17 <liefer> Ah, headers and footers on (expandable)listviews work really well (for me, at least :P)
May 02 10:56:55 <shvelo> http://xkcd.com/1363/ <3
May 02 10:57:03 <shvelo> actually contains good ideas :D
May 02 11:39:58 <capella> volume adjustable (requires root)
May 02 12:14:45 <MrMaffen> I want to be able to both use an armeabi .so library (it's not available for armeabi-v7a devices) and an armeabi-v7a one in my android app. I already managed to include both of those libraries in my apk. but somehow my dalvik vm can only find the library inside the "/lib/armeabi-v7a"-folder and not the one in the "/lib/armeabi"-folder... any ideas on why that might be the case?
May 02 12:14:45 <MrMaffen> I can only assume that the dalvik vm only looks for armeabi-v7a so libraries, because it's an armeabi-v7a device and that it simply ignores everything in the armeabi folder.
May 02 12:14:45 <MrMaffen> is there something I can do with gradle or some other tool so that my dvm can find both .so libraries?
May 02 12:28:01 <p_l> MrMaffen: do they have the same name?
May 02 12:28:37 <p_l> or at worst, copy it over
May 02 12:29:12 <MrMaffen> p_l: no they don't. it's basically one lib I can only get for armeabi devices and one I can also get for armeabi-v7a devices. and from what I understand, the armeabi one should also be compatible with armeabi-v7a devices, right?
May 02 12:29:36 <MrMaffen> so I want to use both on my nexus 5 (armeabi v7a device)
May 02 12:32:24 <p_l> at worst, copy the file to both armeabi and armeabi-v7a
May 02 12:35:05 <lxer> hi. When I record some video(+audio) the first moments of the recoring are missing the audio. about 0.2 to 0.5 secs. (it is a custom app using standard videorec api.)  Is this related to mp4 or android or just my phone?
May 02 12:35:22 <MrMaffen> p_l: hmm yea seems hacky :S ndk-build outputs automatically into /libs/armeabi
May 02 12:38:12 <amorph> is anyone using intellij for development? i got a quesion about unit tests
May 02 13:16:05 <mattblang> I have a master detail setup, with portrait only containing a <fragment> in XML, and landscape containing a <fragment> and a container <FrameLayout> in which I inject the detail fragment.  I am noticing that when I swap back to portrait from landscape, the injected detail fragment is still lingering, though not displayed.  Why is this?
May 02 13:23:30 <MrMaffen> mattblang: one possibilty would be that you have defined android:configChanges="orientation" ... that would prevent your layout from being recreated
May 02 13:23:58 <MrMaffen> other possibility would be that you are still holding references to your detailfragment, therefore the gc can't clean it up
May 02 13:24:35 <MrMaffen> analyze via an hprof file in MemoryAnalyzer
May 02 13:27:01 <mattblang> MrMaffen I double checked, I am not using configChanges and I am not maintaining a reference to the detail fragment.  The detail fragment still calls it's lifecycle methods though when I change to portrait.
May 02 13:29:04 <Kartagis> hello
May 02 13:29:27 <Kartagis> can anybody advise a PDF for a person starting new?
May 02 13:29:44 <MrMaffen> mattblang: if you can't find the cause of this in your code, try creating an hprof dump with ddms, and then anaylze with MemoryAnalyzer. it will list all references to your detailfragment. that should enable you to trace back why your detailfragment is still around
May 02 13:29:57 <Leeds> Kartagis: starting new with what?
May 02 13:30:13 <MrMaffen> Kartagis: http://developer.android.com/develop/index.html
May 02 13:30:14 <Kartagis> Leeds: Android development
May 02 13:30:25 <Leeds> er, why a PDF?
May 02 13:30:41 <mattblang> MrMaffen will do. so the fragment "shouldn't" be behaving this way then typically, am I correct?
May 02 13:30:47 <Kartagis> so that I can also read on my tablet
May 02 13:31:28 <Leeds> strange, a tablet without a web browser
May 02 13:31:43 <mintux> i need to set a delay in my app . it's simple it's a progress bar example that it start from 1 to 100 and progress bar will be complete so i want this progress bar goes smoothly and i want to wait 1 second before append 1 unit to progress bar value when i open my app the 100 percentage completed.. it's my source http://codepad.org/tLVM1gjC
May 02 13:31:47 <Leeds> anyway, check out the busy coder's guide
May 02 13:31:52 <Kartagis> Leeds: I don't have an internet plan on my tablet
May 02 13:31:55 <MrMaffen> mattblang: no it shouldn't. if there's no detailfragment around (and your code ensures that) then there should be no calls to your lifecycle methods
May 02 13:32:29 <Leeds> strange, a tablet without internet...
May 02 13:33:09 <mattblang> Leeds why is that so strange?
May 02 13:34:29 <Kartagis> Leeds: I could share my internet on my phone, but I've got only 1gb
May 02 13:34:36 <MrMaffen> mintux: use a Handler
May 02 13:34:36 <mattblang> MrMaffen check this out.  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9975523/fragments-and-orientation-change
May 02 13:36:10 <mintux> MrMaffen: could you more explain or give a code to me ?
May 02 13:38:37 <Leeds> mattblang: a tablet without internet is not very useful
May 02 13:38:49 <Sicp> I have this in my adapter, looking for a solution for comment on line 34 http://pastie.org/9133712
May 02 13:38:59 <MrMaffen> mintux: something like that http://paste.kde.org/pae35gw7h
May 02 13:39:40 <MrMaffen> just separate the runnable and post the runnable to the handler. inside your postDelayed you post another runnable if your progress is not at 100 yet
May 02 13:40:35 <mattblang> Leeds Kartagis probably meant no cell tower internet plan, not no internet at all
May 02 13:41:50 <Kartagis> Leeds: sponsor me for internet on my tablet then :D
May 02 13:43:42 <mattblang> MrMaffen so I just checked the generated Master / Detail example in Android Studio.  It does the exact same thing.  onCreate is called again on the detail fragment when changing to portrait.
May 02 13:46:46 <MrMaffen> mattblang: I thought you wanted to ensure that the detailfragment is being removed and killed. the fragmentmanager probably does some magic behind the scenes so that it doesn't have to recreate the fragment again. if that doesn't bother you, then everything's fine, right? I understood your question as: "I want to remove a fragment, but it isn't being removed"
May 02 13:48:22 <mattblang> MrMaffen ahh, sorry.  the problem is that the detail fragment bombs out when it tries to do anything with the view because that view is no longer there anymore
May 02 13:48:28 <mattblang> MrMaffen otherwise, I wouldn't care
May 02 13:49:14 <mattblang> MrMaffen maybe I should move that stuff to onViewCreated, and that function won't be called...
May 02 13:49:26 <MrMaffen> mattblang: yea indeed you should ^^
May 02 13:54:56 <mattblang> MrMaffen hah, yup.  wupsy.  That makes so much more sense now too, because onViewCreated has the inflated view, whereas before I was calling getActivity().findViewById.  Funny, just a couple days ago I was wondering when using onViewCreated vs onActivityCreated would make a difference.  Pretty damn good example here.
May 02 13:55:29 <MrMaffen> mattblang: hehe yup
May 02 13:55:47 <lxer> When I record some video(+audio) the first moments of the recoring are missing the audio. about 0.2 to 0.5 secs. Is this related to mp4 or android or just my phone?
May 02 13:56:47 <mattblang> lxer you may try #android
May 02 13:57:05 <lxer> tried. ;)
May 02 13:57:34 <MrMaffen> lxer: most probably your phone/rom
May 02 13:59:12 <lxer> ok.
May 02 13:59:39 <Sicp> any idea about the Adapter question above?
May 02 13:59:50 <Sicp> I have this in my adapter, looking for a solution for comment on line 34 http://pastie.org/9133712
May 02 14:00:23 <Sicp> right now what I want to edit does work, but it does not get applied to the specific view that I want it to be applied to, because no Position was used of course
May 02 14:01:50 <askhader> Is a fragment transaction necessary to pop the back stack?
May 02 14:02:01 <askhader> ah, that's a yes
May 02 14:02:24 <askhader> Woops, it's a no
May 02 14:02:58 <mattblang> Sicp what kind of adapter are you using
May 02 14:03:40 <Sicp> baseadapter
May 02 14:04:54 <g00s> pfn there? question about qicr changing its theme with setTheme(). so after that, i guess Activity.recreate() is needed … but what about Activities on the back stack? going back to one would result in onStart() … but since it already set its contentView i don't think it would be updated
May 02 14:05:37 <h3bus> Hi guys, what can cause the logcat output to be empty when filtered by application name (com.package.etc) ? I litterally tried everything, i'm using Intellij IDE
May 02 14:05:50 <pfn> g00s, qicr only has 1 activity
May 02 14:05:57 <g00s> ah
May 02 14:07:18 <mattblang> Sicp when you say edit view at position x, what is x?  the particular list item position that stringActionTv is in?
May 02 14:07:28 <Sicp> yes
May 02 14:09:23 <mattblang> Sicp what happens if you make view final, and use it within that function?
May 02 14:11:11 <Sicp> use it as what? how are you going to say "this touch listener will edit view[x]"?
May 02 14:11:25 <Sicp> view isn't an array but its the meaning of what Im trying to say
May 02 14:12:08 <mattblang> Sicp it would edit the view that you are returning right?  which is the view for view[x], where x is 0 to listview length - 1?
May 02 14:15:40 <Sicp> yea I deviated a bit, brb
May 02 14:16:05 <mattblang> Sicp cool, let me know.  curious myself.
May 02 14:18:30 <pfn> g00s, you can always check current theme state vs internal and recreate on start
May 02 14:18:58 <g00s> yeah… i would think there would be some flicker
May 02 14:19:08 <g00s> (you'd see the original, and then it would switch)
May 02 14:32:35 <kamol> any recommendation which similar to https://github.com/coomar2841/image-chooser-library ?
May 02 14:32:59 <Bacta> Why can't I have form widgets on in different layouts with the same id?
May 02 14:33:21 <Bacta> Or perhaps there's some sort of namespacing concept I should be making use of?
May 02 15:04:22 <Kane> What do you think about the idea of managing 6 TextView by refreshing their content every 20ms with data retrieved from a sensor with a Thread in one Activity ? And now, the same thing, with 20 threads (for 20 sensors) and 120 TextView, also in only one single Activity
May 02 15:04:49 <g00s> 20ms is too fast
May 02 15:05:11 <g00s> 20 threads is too many threads
May 02 15:05:25 <g00s> 120 textview is probably, too many textviews
May 02 15:06:49 <Kane> for the 20ms it's my, i through it was the base refresh rate for accelerometer and the others, for the rest... That's what i try to explain to my chief since 2 days :(
May 02 15:09:40 <kakazza> How often do you need new values? 50 times per second is insane.
May 02 15:10:28 <g00s> yeah, how many times per second do you want to see a number change?
May 02 15:10:49 <g00s> i have my numbers changing at selectable refreshes, 1,2,5,10,20,30 sec
May 02 15:10:58 <g00s> etc
May 02 15:11:47 <Syzygy> I'm trying to use GPULibrary, but my texture (actually an image from the camera) isn't pushed to the shader, any idea what could be wrong? [unnamed-23102-0] bindTextureImage: clearing GL error: 0x501
May 02 15:11:53 <Kane> he want a sort of debug view of all the sensors (GPS too, even phone and battery state), all of this display in one table with possibility to switch them on or off, view the info returned in real time, ect.. :/
May 02 15:12:05 <Syzygy> I'm using the same code as the other working classes in that library
May 02 15:16:49 <EgonGrenz> I want to import com.android.systemui.recent.RecentsActivity, but that belongs to the operating system and should not be used for normal apps, but I do need to import that .... so I need to add a Library in Project setup. But where do I get that library ?
May 02 15:18:38 <pfn> you cannot do that
May 02 15:18:40 <pfn> period
May 02 15:19:11 <EgonGrenz> I can not do that?
May 02 15:22:02 <EgonGrenz> pfn
May 02 15:26:35 <pfn> yes
May 02 15:28:13 <EgonGrenz> the class RecentsActivity can recieve an intent. When I want to send an intent to that class I need to import the package, whats not possible - seems so, but another app CAN send this intent ... so they were able to do that ... so how do I do that?
May 02 15:30:51 <pfn> you can target by component name
May 02 15:31:25 <EgonGrenz> pfn so what is the component name of com.android.systemui.recent.RecentsActivity
May 02 15:31:36 <pfn> look at its manifest and see
May 02 15:31:44 <sabton> or Google it
May 02 15:31:48 <EgonGrenz> the manifest of the android sourcecode
May 02 15:31:50 <sabton> took me 2 seconds to find this"
May 02 15:31:52 <sabton> ComponentName recents = new ComponentName("com.android.systemui", "com.android.systemui.recent.RecentsActivity");
May 02 15:32:01 <sabton> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14574239/how-to-disable-the-recent-tasks-apps-button-in-android
May 02 15:32:05 <pfn> and you handfed the answer  :p
May 02 15:32:28 <sabton> if only IRC were a search engine
May 02 15:32:33 <vaskozl> Hey, is it possible to use the google voice typing instroduced in Jellybean, which works offline to be used trough the android sdk on GNU/Linux?
May 02 15:32:44 <pfn> no
May 02 15:32:50 <vaskozl> pfn: T_T
May 02 15:32:51 <vaskozl> really
May 02 15:33:04 <vaskozl> no way?
May 02 15:33:11 <pfn> well, unless you want to run an emulator and then set up some funky method of ipc
May 02 15:34:40 <vaskozl> pfn: the online one is quite slow
May 02 15:35:35 <vaskozl> pfn: but thx for the clear cut answer, I aprecciate it
May 02 15:37:38 <charly__> anyone know why system wont mount? http://pastebin.com/RqkeXth7 <log and updater script >http://pastebin.com/7scFpeQf
May 02 15:37:54 <charly__> recovery fstab http://pastebin.com/haVytqTA
May 02 15:39:53 <QbY> If Camera.open() throws a "Fail to connect to camera service" exception.  Is there anyway that I can forcibly take the camera ?  For example, another activity didn't release it.
May 02 15:53:12 <IrishGringo> anyone here?
May 02 15:53:18 <taw> Good morning, fine gentlemen. I was wondering if you knew of any good resources for understanding the development of an application that uses PostGIS.
May 02 15:53:31 <IrishGringo> ahh....  working
May 02 15:53:45 <taw> I've been trying to find something helpful on stackoverflow and, well, google. I've been unsuccessful.
May 02 15:54:46 <g00s> taw PostGIS … android .. not seeing the connection
May 02 15:54:48 <IrishGringo> I'm an iphone developer... what is the equivalent to a Scrolling Label Box?  I have a lot of text that I would like toscroll, but I dont want the entire screen to scroll
May 02 15:55:47 <IrishGringo> Question 2... I have an android app that is suppose to aqaure a LatLong, but it sometime's takes a really long time. I am thinking that there is a way to force a retry or somethng like that.
May 02 15:55:51 <taw> g00s: I'm thinking about a middle man/data layer in-between.
May 02 15:55:58 <taw> I'm trying to figure out the best way to do that
May 02 15:56:25 <taw> probably store my locations using a JSON parser
May 02 15:56:47 <g00s> IrishGringo wut is a Scrolling Label Box :|
May 02 15:57:27 <IrishGringo> A multiLine text box that cannot be edited.
May 02 15:57:45 <IrishGringo> It could have 30 lines of text, but only display 5-ish at a time...  scroll bars on side
May 02 15:58:09 <g00s> uh, like a TextView in a Scrollview ?
May 02 15:58:38 <g00s> have you tried playing around with ApidDemos? they show you our paltry selection
May 02 15:59:11 <IrishGringo> I have never even heard of apidemos
May 02 15:59:28 <IrishGringo> but I am using Android studio... will I have issues iwth that APIDemos app
May 02 15:59:30 <taw> Do you think I should store my locations using Android's SQLite and then parse them with JSON?
May 02 16:05:25 <Syzygy> On android openGL es 2.0 I have a few filters that work, but one filter that's pretty much exactly like the others doesn't seem to work. I get the error: W/GLConsumer﹕ [unnamed-25517-1] bindTextureImage: clearing GL error: 0x501. Here's my own filter http://pastebin.com/DjEghEtN and here is a working filter http://pastebin.com/URkxXGch
May 02 16:06:30 <Syzygy> the filters are also called the exact same way in succession (with a working filter before and after the filer that doesn't work)
May 02 16:06:42 <Syzygy> all filters need that texture, but for some reason it can't be bound for this particular one.
May 02 16:08:14 <Syzygy> GPUImageFilter doesn't have package private variables of methods either (and it doesn't extend anything else)
May 02 16:12:02 <mattblang> what is the best way to get a reference to the activity context inside of something like an AsyncTask.  You can use this.
May 02 16:12:05 <mattblang> *can't
May 02 16:12:17 <IrishGringo> I got a text to be multiline, now, is there a way to add a scroll bar?   perhaps a container of sometype?
May 02 16:14:43 <mintux> what does it mean? Intent intent = new Intent(Main.this,Main.class). it's inside onClick method inside onClickListener .. what does it mean? send message from Main activity class to what ?
May 02 16:19:34 <Syzygy> mattblang, you might be able to access stuff like getActivity() or getContext() from inside the AsyncTask
May 02 16:19:47 <Syzygy> YourActivity.this should also work
May 02 16:23:07 <mattblang> Syzygy I lied, I actually need the fragment instance, so I ended up passing this to the AsyncTask constructor
May 02 16:23:39 <Syzygy> guess that works as well
May 02 17:00:15 <IrishGringo> is there an issue with getting a lat/long?  I have some phones in the tampa fl area that have trouble getting a location.  perhaps I need to force or reset something to poll?
May 02 17:02:01 <aamederen> Hello, I have a problem about sending non-text data from an android application to a server. I need to connect with https and I need to send some strings as well as a byte array to the server. Could you please tell me what is a good way to handle this issue? Thanks
May 02 17:02:55 <mattblang> any ideas about this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23433387/soft-keyboard-changes-layout-when-in-landscape
May 02 17:21:21 <Leeds> jnewt: no idea :)
May 02 17:21:31 <jnewt> nice
May 02 17:21:43 <Istar_Eldritch> Hey, one little question: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class "android.support.v4.widget.DrawerLayout"
May 02 17:22:11 <pfn> then make it found
May 02 17:22:31 <Istar_Eldritch> Why this thing happens?
May 02 17:23:01 <pfn> usually need to rebuild when changing libraries
May 02 17:38:31 <Captnwalker1> Any idea why studio would stop generating classes with fragments, when doing New->Fragment, its only generating the XML and this is done from the java directory
May 02 17:58:21 <nick9998> JesusFreke: hey i have a question for you
May 02 17:58:29 <JesusFreke> hey, I have an answer!
May 02 17:58:32 <JesusFreke> -12
May 02 17:58:43 <dalvikvm> threadid=13: thread exiting with uncaught exception (group=0x40ab51f8)
May 02 17:59:00 <nick9998> do i have to use openGLES2 to make my app an android live wall paper?
May 02 17:59:18 <nick9998> currently i have an open GLES 1 and app and i have made the GLWallpaperTest project
May 02 17:59:57 <JesusFreke> It should work with gles 1, afaik
May 02 18:00:11 <JesusFreke> it's been a while since I did anything with that though
May 02 18:00:49 <nick9998> from http://www.learnopengles.com/how-to-use-opengl-es-2-in-an-android-live-wallpaper/:  // This is where you could create an OpenGL ES 1.x compatible
May 02 18:00:51 <nick9998>                 // renderer if you wanted to support both ES 1 and ES 2.
May 02 18:01:27 <nick9998> that part is unimplemented,  i will give it a try!
May 02 18:02:29 <JesusFreke> Afaik, my (open source) penroser wallpaper should work with gles 1
May 02 18:02:37 <JesusFreke> If you want to look at a working example
May 02 18:02:43 <JesusFreke> (https://github.com/JesusFreke/Penroser)
May 02 18:03:38 <JesusFreke> I'm pretty sure I've ran it, e.g. in the emulator without hardware acceleration, which only has gles 1 available.
May 02 18:11:20 <nick9998> JesusFreke: thanks, i will give it a try!
May 02 18:16:22 <eastnoobs> Hello , anyone can help me ? i make simple apps for read nfc tags . But i have some errors . Im sorry for my bad english . Im from indonesia nice to meet you all
May 02 18:19:08 <gdrc> hey guys
May 02 18:29:32 <taw> this question might've been asked a zillion times, but should I use LocationListener as a service?
May 02 18:29:48 <taw> I want to be able to log different location changes while the application runs
May 02 18:30:13 <taw> and what are the pro/cons about the service approach?
May 02 18:30:17 <mattblang> aamederen see if okhttp helps you any n android application to a server. I need to connect with https and I need to send some strings as well as a byte array to the server. Could you please tell me what is a
May 02 18:30:26 <mattblang> aamederen http://square.github.io/okhttp/
May 02 18:30:46 <taw> I'm checking open-gpstracker
May 02 18:30:47 <mikedg> anyone want to buy my I/O ticket? $12,000
May 02 18:30:53 <JakeWharton> mikedg: mememememe
May 02 18:31:04 <mikedg> JakeWharton: I'll even throw in a fake ID for free for you
May 02 18:31:21 <JakeWharton> done
May 02 18:31:45 <mikedg> send me your credit card and I'll swipe it on my square reader
May 02 18:31:56 <JakeWharton> 4111 1111 1111 1111
May 02 18:32:16 <taw> seems legit
May 02 18:38:16 <taw> okay, I know the answer to my question; I need it to run as a service.
May 02 18:45:28 <AndreiLux> Many keyboards have a _ in InputType.TYPE_CLASS_NUMBER definitions, but it doesn't seem to work - am I missing something?
May 02 18:45:47 <AndreiLux> alt: I want to have spaces in a numeric keyboard
May 02 19:47:53 <mikedg> JakeWharton: do you want to build a snowman?
May 02 19:48:53 <p_l> mikedg: ... you made recall that song, immediately, complete with correct voices -_-
May 02 19:50:06 <mikedg> p_l: let it go
May 02 19:50:16 <p_l> lol
May 02 19:50:59 * p_l meanwhile had been using painkillers for the first time in forever
May 02 19:57:24 <mikedg> it doesn't have to be a snowman
May 02 19:57:52 <p_l> itc, mikedg sung with a voice of a small girl ;)
May 02 20:00:35 <lov> would you like to make a fragment?
May 02 20:00:43 <p_l> *SNRK*
May 02 20:00:47 <lov> (no, go away!) :(
May 02 20:00:54 <p_l> hahahahahahaha
May 02 20:01:19 * p_l puts this in his ~/quotes file
May 02 20:10:03 <njcomsec> is android studio in a useable state to develop and publish full apps yet?
May 02 20:14:30 <jaynewstrom> njcomsec: yes
May 02 20:15:05 <njcomsec> cool
May 02 20:15:05 <kakazza> yes
May 02 20:16:42 <njcomsec> what if i edit the project files with external editors/tools also, will it cause any problems with opening the project again in androidstudio? or does android studio simply read the project files, so it should all be cool as long as i didnt edit the files in a way that specifically breaks them
May 02 20:17:27 <dragorn> njcomsec: you should be fine.  you can force a refresh, too, and I wouldn't edit files you have actively open in an editor in AS
May 02 20:18:18 <njcomsec> i see. thanks ill bear that in mind
May 02 20:26:35 <njcomsec> why has it added a ".app" , eg: com.name.name.app
May 02 20:26:51 <njcomsec> do i have to have the .app at the end if it is an app?
May 02 20:27:16 <dragorn> no
May 02 20:27:23 <dragorn> it's just the default behavior of AS
May 02 20:28:59 <njcomsec> are all these fields editable later if i make a mistake creating a new project?
May 02 20:29:01 <dragorn> unless you have a pressing reason to do something different there's no huge reason to change it
May 02 20:29:15 <dragorn> more or less, to varying degrees of difficulty
May 02 20:29:34 <njcomsec> i see
May 02 20:29:35 <dragorn> once you get into renaming modules and such you often ahve to do a lot of bookkeeping afterwards to make it happy again
May 02 20:30:03 <njcomsec> ahhh
May 02 20:30:09 <njcomsec> i will try my best to plan ahead then
May 02 20:30:09 <dragorn> the refactor tool often does the right thing, but not always
May 02 20:30:29 <dragorn> unless you're profoundly offended by having the module called app, it doesn't really matter
May 02 20:30:40 <dragorn> it's not particularly use visible in any sense
May 02 20:32:13 <BustyLoli-Chan> I'm going to be building an application soon... it connects to a website occasionally pings it and waits for a response...
May 02 20:32:23 <BustyLoli-Chan> I'm wondering what the best way to do this is....
May 02 20:32:42 <BustyLoli-Chan> in the past I had an underlying service that would stay alive and do actual server communication...
May 02 20:33:05 <BustyLoli-Chan> the front end application itself was pretty much an activity that just passed commands to the service and then off to the actual server
May 02 20:33:34 <BustyLoli-Chan> or... application to the service then the service to the server....
May 02 20:33:48 <yiati> Does org.xmlrpc.android.XMLRPCClient support https? https://code.google.com/p/android-xmlrpc/source/browse/trunk/XMLRPC/src/org/xmlrpc/android/XMLRPCClient.java
May 02 20:33:56 <yiati> It's looking like a no to me
May 02 20:34:13 <mattblang> say you are using a one activity approach with fragments.  if you want to do master detail, how can you put two fragments into the view, while not taking space all the time if only one fragment is showing?
May 02 20:34:27 <BustyLoli-Chan> but I feel like this is kind of messy... is there a recommended way or does anyone have any suggestion as to how I can achieve this and make it nice and clean
May 02 20:35:49 <heater89> Does anyone know why some classes, eg ViewDragHelper, only available in support libraries and not packaged as part of newer sdks?
May 02 20:52:39 <apple741> I made a test purchase a few days ago and cancelled the order but noticed I was still charged?
May 02 21:03:18 <mdim> hi all. Does anyone use x86-based AVDs to test their apps? I get a strange error from the emulator when I want to reload a snapshot: KO: Error -22 while loading VM state
May 02 21:23:37 <justdl> heya
May 02 21:26:26 <justdl> anyone in?
May 02 21:29:37 <Thorbear> justdl: usually works better to just ask a question
May 02 21:31:34 <justdl> any thoughts on using one of those cookie cutter app developer tools?
May 02 21:31:43 <jug6ernaut> dont
May 02 21:31:48 <justdl> want an app for my biz and it doesnt need much functionality
May 02 21:32:25 <justdl> something like.. background image (company logo) - tool bar at the bottom w/ 3 options (click to call/shopping cart/site)
May 02 21:32:31 <justdl> thats all
May 02 21:34:51 <jug6ernaut> if u think that functionality can be achieved through one of the app builders maybe its worth a shot. I haven't used them personally but from what I've seen its usually not worth the time you put into them.
May 02 21:34:58 <justdl> yeah
May 02 21:34:59 <justdl> well
May 02 21:35:17 <justdl> cool thing about those builders is that its easy to port them over etc
May 02 21:47:10 <mattblang> crap, was going to star otto on github, but it is at 1,337 stars.... what to dooooooo (https://github.com/square/otto)
May 02 21:47:27 <JakeWharton> don't mess it up for everyone, mattblang
May 02 22:20:52 <apple741> I made a test purchase a few days ago and cancelled the order but noticed I was still charged?
May 02 22:50:35 <creitve> I'm trying to implement an API class. Its methods execute AsyncTask. Is there way I can avoid having to pass context to just every method of my API?
May 02 22:51:22 <creitve> I'm new to this and I'm a bit concerned if having Context context everywhere as a first argument is a normal practice.
May 02 22:54:03 <pfn> yes
May 02 23:01:48 <ercax> I'm trying to style a radio button. I have android:button pointing to an xml drawable. I want it to just draw a border around the button but it covers the text.
May 02 23:05:25 <creitve> pfn: okay, thanks.
May 02 23:46:45 <mdim> when I am starting the Android Emulator, where does it get a hardware configuration file from?
May 02 23:47:50 <mdim> for example, I've manually changed ~/.android/avd/device-name/config.ini so that it reads hw.ramSize=1024, but when I start the emulator with the verbose option, I see it is loaded with 512M (default value)
May 03 00:30:31 <justdl> heh
May 03 00:30:31 <justdl> anyone in?
May 03 00:31:07 <Leeds> possibly...
May 03 00:35:13 <gverig> It seems my VideoView is losing some kind of GL context on lower end phone. I have two video players, one goes invisible, the other plays and then we come back to the original player... and it's green. Any idea on how to recover it?
May 03 01:27:25 <justdl> anyone in?
May 03 01:28:45 <codeguru> nope
May 03 01:28:51 <Zemmy> : Hi Everyone. I'm a Android noob from an iOS background, and I'm trying to understand how to switch between different activities in an app. I have an activity that I create at launch, which then upon user interaction launches another activity. Now what I would like to do is to be able to switch back and forth between the two activities without "killing", "closing" or "finishing" either activity. The reason for this is that one of 
May 03 01:28:52 <Zemmy> two activities is an activity generated by Unity3D, which takes about 8 seconds to create on S4. So I don't want my users to wait for 8 seconds whenever they tap on a menu item that presents the Unity activity. In iOS I would create my Unity View controller, retain a pointer to it and then present/dismiss and call resume/pause on that object whenever I want. Is there are way to have some sort of a "pointer" or handle to the activit
May 03 01:28:52 <Zemmy> that I create?
May 03 01:30:45 <Anthaas> You don't really ever want to stop Android from destroying an activity, what you want to try to do is restore the activity's state.
May 03 01:31:38 <Anthaas> That is, you can save a bunch of objects relevant to how that activity should be represented at that moment in time and store them into a bundle by overriding onSaveInstanceState.
May 03 01:32:03 <Anthaas> So, when you create an activity, you can use the saveInstanceState bundle parameter to reinitialise the activity.
May 03 01:33:49 <Zemmy> I see! So the main object that does pretty much all the work in the Unity activity is an object called UnityPlayer. So you're saying I need to retain/save that object before destroying the activity, and upon recreating the activity, loading it?
May 03 01:33:59 <Anthaas> Precisely.
May 03 01:34:24 <Zemmy> Thanks a lot! I will try that right now!
May 03 01:34:27 <Anthaas> To store it into the bundle, you want to make the object implement parcelable (if it doesnt already)
May 03 01:34:47 <Zemmy> Can I simply create a reference of
May 03 01:34:54 <Anthaas> Nope.
May 03 01:34:58 <Anthaas> Oh wait
May 03 01:35:01 <Anthaas> What do you mean by that?
May 03 01:35:28 <Anthaas> I assume the object is a member variable?
May 03 01:35:53 <Zemmy> sorry, hit the return button too soon. Can I simply create a reference to the Unity Player in the parent activity, and then when I recreate the unity activity, simply pass it back to it?
May 03 01:36:42 <Zemmy> Because I do not have access to the UnityPlayer source...
May 03 01:36:47 <Anthaas> Err, I would just go with overriding onSaveInstanceState
May 03 01:36:49 <Anthaas> Oh
May 03 01:37:04 <Anthaas> Umm, I guess you could put it in a wrapper object and make that object parcelable?
May 03 01:37:17 <Anthaas> Someone else may chip in here if that seems like a bad idea though....
May 03 01:38:26 <Zemmy> perhaps, I'll have to try that.
May 03 01:38:43 <Zemmy> Thanks Anthaas
May 03 01:38:48 <Anthaas> np
May 03 01:39:00 <Anthaas> Oh wait actually
May 03 01:39:07 <Zemmy> yes?
May 03 01:39:08 <Anthaas> From the top of my head I dont think you can do that.
May 03 01:39:21 <Anthaas> If you make the wrapper parcelable all objects inside have to be parcelable I believe.
May 03 01:40:14 <Zemmy> is "parcelable" similar to "serializable"? i.e. must implement an interface that allows it to be stored/restored in certain way?
May 03 01:40:32 <Anthaas> Exactly.
May 03 01:40:42 <Anthaas> Parcelable is quicker, particularly for more complex objects.
May 03 01:40:51 <Anthaas> When I say
May 03 01:40:57 <Anthaas> quicker, I mean dramatically so.
May 03 01:41:19 <Zemmy> yea I can't do that... I have no access to neither the UnityPlayer object nor the objects within it.
May 03 01:41:32 <Anthaas> Yeah that just clicked for me haha.
May 03 01:41:33 <Zemmy> I mean to the source
May 03 01:41:51 <Anthaas> Hmm, someone else may be able to help, I don't have any experience with Unity.
May 03 01:42:14 <Zemmy> Thanks anyway, I have a couple of things to experiment with.
May 03 01:45:51 <g00s> hm, proguard ftl https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/adt-dev/z8j6CT660_o
May 03 01:49:11 <Anthaas> 10 points if you can pronounce the posters name.
May 03 01:51:19 <g00s> anyone know what is fixed in gradle plugin 0.10.1 ?
May 03 01:57:13 <MalekAlrwily> I have get NullPointerException at ImageView.setBackground(Drawable)
May 03 01:57:31 <Anthaas> have you called findViewById on image view?
May 03 01:57:40 <MalekAlrwily> yes
May 03 01:57:50 <Anthaas> used the right id?
May 03 01:58:02 <MalekAlrwily> yes
May 03 01:58:10 <Anthaas> debugged it to see what is null?
May 03 01:58:11 <MalekAlrwily> imageview is in a linearlayout
May 03 02:01:00 <MalekAlrwily> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8c867682d3e141c6ae6e
May 03 02:01:10 <MalekAlrwily> please see it
May 03 02:01:23 <Anthaas> Have you debugged it yourself?
May 03 02:01:52 <MalekAlrwily> yup
May 03 02:01:58 <Anthaas> What is null?
May 03 02:02:15 <MalekAlrwily> maybe the drawable
May 03 02:02:20 <Anthaas> maybe?
May 03 02:02:24 <Anthaas> debug again until you know.
May 03 02:02:30 <MalekAlrwily> ok
May 03 02:05:51 <MalekAlrwily> the ImageView is null
May 03 02:06:35 <MalekAlrwily> Anthaas ^
May 03 02:06:41 <Anthaas> There you go then
May 03 02:07:14 <Anthaas> You are either not setting a reference to it using the right ID, the ImageView loses its reference somehow, or something like that.
May 03 02:07:44 <MalekAlrwily> do i need to find the linearlayout?
May 03 02:07:53 <Anthaas> Nope
May 03 02:08:02 <MalekAlrwily> ok
May 03 02:08:05 <MalekAlrwily> thanks
May 03 02:08:09 <MalekAlrwily> :)
May 03 02:10:39 <ThomQ> Hi all. Quick question: I need to stop a video at a certain time. I can check the videos currentTime, but what would be a sound way of checking that at set intervals?
May 03 02:11:04 <ThomQ> at least, I assume that is the way to do it. Fire a method every second or so, to see if the Cut off time is aproaching
May 03 02:19:32 <pfn> g00s, just add the optimization like the guy says
May 03 02:20:57 <g00s> pfn oh crap, i missed that
May 03 02:21:20 <pfn> android needs a bunch of optimizations disabled anyway
May 03 02:21:35 <pfn> dex eats shit on so many of them
May 03 02:30:37 <Anthaas> pfn: Please correct me if I am mistaken, but .dex is Android's equivalent of .class?
May 03 02:30:46 <Anthaas> Compiled Android code...?
May 03 02:31:03 <p_l> Anthaas: if .class contained multiple classes, yes
May 03 02:31:28 <Anthaas> p_l: Thanks.
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