**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 07 02:59:59 2014 Jun 07 03:00:22 With onBackPressed Jun 07 03:00:27 f2prateek: finish when the back button is pressed? Jun 07 03:00:47 Yup, calls the finish meyhod Jun 07 03:01:57 f2prateek: thanks :) Jun 07 03:02:01 trying it out now Jun 07 04:16:34 Hey Jun 07 04:16:39 is anyone alive? Jun 07 04:19:34 I am building a game with stacked cards, and adding them to a RelativeLayout with margins of index * 15. Jun 07 04:19:53 The problem is, if too many cards get added to the view, the rightmost ones get shrunk - such as http://imgur.com/WfnEWd7 Jun 07 04:20:25 What would be a better way to do it? Join all the drawables together into one image? A different type of layout? Jun 07 04:25:28 Bueller? Jun 07 04:34:44 Hi, can anyone help me with SurfaceViews? I'm using a navigation drawer with fragments to switch the SurfaceView that is displayed on the screen. I know this part is working because I have multiple SurfaceViews with different colors set as the background and I see this changing. In the SurfaceView, I am trying to draw a bitmap, but this is not work Jun 07 04:34:45 ing. I've traced this back to surfaceCreated not getting called (therefore, my thread doesn't start which handles the drawing) Jun 07 04:36:00 (I've done extensive searching on Google, Stacktrace, the Android Google group, etc. and none of the solutions worked for me) Jun 07 04:52:50 Hello! Jun 07 04:56:21 Hey! Jun 07 04:56:36 You good with custom views much codeguru? Jun 07 05:01:04 achuinard: not really. What's your q? Jun 07 05:24:53 what i should do, if android command can't seen targets, but i've install API versions 17...19? Jun 07 05:24:58 ? Jun 07 05:26:13 % ls /opt/android-sdk/build-tools [master-9:19:08] Jun 07 05:26:14 17.0.0 18.0.1 18.1.0 18.1.1 19.0.0 19.0.1 19.0.2 19.0.3 19.1 Jun 07 05:26:33 % android list target [master-9:25:54] Jun 07 05:26:35 Available Android targets: Jun 07 05:26:41 raspberrypifan: now more good? ^ Jun 07 05:27:06 im not sure what to tell u Jun 07 05:27:11 maybe someone else knows more Jun 07 05:27:16 :( Jun 07 05:27:24 that so holy shit. Jun 07 05:27:33 i set ANDROID_HOME Jun 07 05:27:38 but that too nothing. Jun 07 05:34:13 oh, i understand Jun 07 05:34:21 i install only build tools Jun 07 05:34:28 but not api Jun 07 08:01:44 So as I understand, android development doesn't support java 1.7, so if I'm going to get any books on coding java I better get one for java 1.6 I guess? Jun 07 08:08:40 Hello,, Jun 07 08:09:49 I am have question regarding SlidingMenu, are there any one could help me with sliding ? ? Jun 07 08:12:19 I am trying to make it from left to right ! Jun 07 08:13:33 any help ? Jun 07 08:18:02 try #android Jun 07 08:18:07 jking Jun 07 08:18:48 I have tried :( Jun 07 08:19:09 ok sliding menu? Jun 07 08:19:12 I'll see what i can do Jun 07 08:19:51 I would make it from left to right side Jun 07 08:20:45 K havne't used it before but I'm seeing if i Can do it Jun 07 08:21:12 SlidingDrawer? Jun 07 08:21:43 yes Jun 07 08:21:44 I would greatly appreciate it Jun 07 08:24:17 Sec gotta create a test project Jun 07 08:24:46 k Jun 07 08:28:41 Have you looked at the orientation setting? Jun 07 08:30:23 No, where can I find it ? Jun 07 08:31:14 It's a property of SlidingDrawers Jun 07 08:35:26 amjadf: Here this is what you wabt http://developer.android.com/reference/android/support/v4/widget/DrawerLayout.html Jun 07 08:35:30 want rather Jun 07 08:39:23 pertecouture: Yup I found what I need thank you so much Jun 07 09:12:19 hey Jun 07 10:07:49 hi to all, need help to implement actionbar tab (correctly). actually works but every time enter in a tab, it will be recreated at all, i want to keep my tabs always alive Jun 07 10:18:54 ImageView setImageURI... can't i use web url there ? Jun 07 10:57:55 anyone know if Android can play audio at 49716Hz anyhow? at least opensles didnt like that freq Jun 07 10:58:15 havent tried openmax al yet, but i guess its the same deal Jun 07 11:23:53 <.< Considering that anyone might be active in here, has anyone worked with developing a HTML/JavaScript application in MoSync? Jun 07 11:32:05 hey there, i am connecting to a server via basic authentication, if the credentials are right, the server gives me back an userid, if not the (content) response is empty. how can i check this? tried checking if response.getStatusLine().getStatusCode(); is 403, but the response code i get is only 401 Jun 07 11:32:10 Is there a way to know from activity which activity launched it? Jun 07 11:46:49 Nearly 400 people.. all silent... Jun 07 12:03:04 probably sleeping Jun 07 12:03:35 Statistically, some may be dead. Jun 07 12:04:01 Truth. Jun 07 12:04:13 Or never alive to begin with... Jun 07 12:06:45 But either way, sleep, death and undeath are the enemy of development... Combatted properly with bawls, cybernetics and holy water respectively. Jun 07 12:36:40 app.create() Jun 07 12:36:55 damn it, TooLazyException Jun 07 12:36:59 lel Jun 07 12:40:15 Pocket Casts is a really great app that I paid for Jun 07 12:40:26 their Music For Programming pod is really really good Jun 07 12:40:29 documentation.fail.wall = 1000; google.reference = 350; if (documentation.fail.wall > google.reference) else app.create(); Jun 07 12:40:54 you feel smarter as you listen Jun 07 12:41:15 (results may vary) Jun 07 12:45:01 anyone know of a lib that monitors Google Maps notifications and translates them into enums or such? Jun 07 12:46:15 man, G+...what an app Jun 07 12:46:46 mind boggling skills Jun 07 12:48:56 You wouldn't offhand have any experience with MoSync or PhoneGap and saving a variable from one session to the next using only javascript and html would you? tried window.localstorage.setItem/getitem (Using proper capitalization) but it just freezes any functions that use it and it is the only thing I can find after a full day spent scouring the mosync site and google that is supposed to let me store variable data and access it lat Jun 07 12:49:20 none whatsoever Jun 07 12:49:29 Alas. Jun 07 12:49:33 #phonegap Jun 07 12:49:36 #phonegag Jun 07 12:50:08 I love how well Android treats me Jun 07 12:50:15 I've been through Titanium and Phonegap Jun 07 12:50:25 such pain Jun 07 12:52:01 Heh. MoSync encapsulates some of the PhoneGap libraries and one of them is the one that holds the window.localstorage system of saving data. MoSync has been helpful as it's let me port my pure JavaScript/Html app to android, but wanting to take it to the next level by actually saving data between sessions is giving me headaches. Jun 07 12:53:01 how is it doing that Jun 07 12:53:06 show me your app? Jun 07 12:54:44 Sure, give me a sec. Jun 07 13:03:23 but this is really write in Android from scratch Jun 07 13:04:02 it'll be so much prettier and....just better Jun 07 13:30:01 anyone ever tried to set a different cursor for an EditText? Jun 07 13:30:11 like those nice block cursors in Terminals Jun 07 13:30:39 there's cursorVisible, but that's not what I want of course Jun 07 13:31:54 There's no open source terminal apps on play store that does it? Jun 07 13:32:17 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6225995/can-i-change-the-cursor-size-in-android-edit-text-field Jun 07 13:32:22 there it is Jun 07 13:32:32 jackpal does it, that's what I got inspired by Jun 07 13:36:19 hmmm, does not play well with setting background of edittext to transparent for making that blue line disappear Jun 07 13:46:49 yea that solves it perfectly with 10dp Jun 07 13:46:59 unix-like cursor Jun 07 13:52:47 how can I detect an enter from inside a textview without having it being mistaken for a new line? Jun 07 13:53:42 I already have its imeOptions set to actionGo, and I'm listening inside its onEditorAction for actionId == Editor.IME_ACTION_GO Jun 07 13:53:53 it isn't logging Jun 07 14:01:15 ah, inputType needs to be text Jun 07 14:01:35 what would be the best way of making a listview with each item leading to a new layout on an onclick event? Jun 07 14:01:48 im not asking for solution, im just wondering what i need to read up on to better understand what i need to do Jun 07 14:02:37 you construct an adapter and feed it the raw list of your stuff Jun 07 14:03:02 each with the layout of how each element in that list is going to look like (100 elements will take 1 layout, for example) Jun 07 14:03:17 so i dont need numerous layouts? Jun 07 14:03:30 you construct a layout for the activity that's going to include that listview, find that listview in the code (from XML) and do a setAdapter(instanceOfYourAdapter); Jun 07 14:03:34 you need 2 Jun 07 14:03:50 1 for the activity that has the listview, and another for the layout to be used on the listview's children Jun 07 14:04:03 thats exactly what i wanted Jun 07 14:04:03 ------- ** ------ username ------ ** ------- password Jun 07 14:04:13 every child will look like that Jun 07 14:04:19 so what classes do i need to look up to understand how it works? Jun 07 14:04:26 ArrayAdapter Jun 07 14:04:35 your day is gone :) Jun 07 14:04:39 so dont make plans Jun 07 14:04:39 thanks a bunch! Jun 07 14:04:45 its complex, huh? Jun 07 14:04:52 no but getView() is tricky Jun 07 14:05:04 well i got enough beer Jun 07 14:05:33 balmer peak is real Jun 07 14:06:11 actually im still not sure whether getView() is tricky because lesser-skilled developers make it carry the load of the listeners instead of leaving it to the main activity under listview.onitemclick() Jun 07 14:06:15 or that it's just tricky Jun 07 14:06:37 cause I do it in getView() and it doesnt feel right Jun 07 14:06:41 maybe that's the source of the suffering Jun 07 14:06:53 its up to me to find out Jun 07 14:38:00 I'm using AndroidStudio, and attemtpingt to use MS Azure. Looking for AndroidManifeast.xml file... but I cannot find it in the android project... am I doing something wrong? Jun 07 14:57:32 what IrishGringo ? Jun 07 14:58:05 there *must* be an AndroidManifest.xml file in your project, otherwise the means of generating the project's file is wrong Jun 07 14:58:27 files* Jun 07 15:01:40 anyone have any suggestion for a +1 button on a native game? Jun 07 15:01:52 I've been googling and cant find anything Jun 07 15:03:48 or I should rephrase me question. I come from iOS and i've nice success in getting people to review the games Jun 07 15:03:56 on android not so much, do people do more for reviews or +1? Jun 07 15:04:20 im starting to get nice numbers via ASO and cross promo, but really not enough reviewing going on Jun 07 15:04:38 so I guess it's not as simple as asking for reviews like iOS Jun 07 15:04:50 which works great over there Jun 07 15:06:22 I would but I don't have an android phone I keep with me atm. QcMat Jun 07 15:06:36 oh no I didnt meant to ask for reviews if it came out like that Jun 07 15:06:42 I want reviews from the users, constantly :) Jun 07 15:06:52 thanks though Jun 07 15:07:04 you cannot possibly be asking to control people... Jun 07 15:07:09 ? Jun 07 15:07:19 people will review your app if they feel like it, how could you possibly ask why arent they doing it? Jun 07 15:07:22 you do know it'S possibly to optimize an experience to guide people to do what you want right? Jun 07 15:07:31 you dont know what you're talking about sorry Jun 07 15:07:34 #android <-- Jun 07 15:07:47 Sicp: er, no Jun 07 15:07:49 ok so android experience is non changeble? you make an app and you cant change it to get people to do what you want? Jun 07 15:07:51 seriously dude -_- Jun 07 15:08:02 QcMat: just don't do what they did with dungeon keeper... Jun 07 15:08:05 ok :) do it Jun 07 15:08:10 solve it Jun 07 15:08:17 I did on iOS and i'm making millions to prove it Jun 07 15:08:21 will do on android too Jun 07 15:08:25 Leeds, what was that? Jun 07 15:08:31 then do! this is awesome news! Jun 07 15:08:33 bugging people? that's bad Jun 07 15:08:35 er, making millions, yet need to ask for advice on IRC? Jun 07 15:08:41 I do and I help people do it daily on iphonedev channels Jun 07 15:08:54 I'm just asking about a native solution to a +1 button Leeds Jun 07 15:08:56 primarely Jun 07 15:09:06 there should be on SO Jun 07 15:09:09 code question originally Jun 07 15:09:12 that I explained my reasoning Jun 07 15:09:20 https://developers.google.com/+/web/+1button/ Jun 07 15:09:21 there you go Jun 07 15:09:28 native Jun 07 15:09:40 I know how to google "+1 button" Jun 07 15:09:57 I'm sure im not the first one wanting this in a cpp app but it seems so Jun 07 15:09:59 from what I can find Jun 07 15:10:03 if I have to ill make it for sure Jun 07 15:10:15 you dont seem to need help Jun 07 15:10:21 but im sure there's native solutions, hence why I ask here incase someone had it Jun 07 15:10:30 Sicp, stop answering me please Jun 07 15:10:35 you just dont like me and that's ok Jun 07 15:10:36 bye Jun 07 15:10:44 waaaat Jun 07 15:10:48 sorry dude Jun 07 15:10:53 your answers arent answers Jun 07 15:11:46 I think what im asking is impossible, as it would make it easy for us to click it via code Jun 07 15:11:53 so I guess ill just link to the store where they can +1 there Jun 07 15:12:08 if anyone has any other solution, that'd be awesome, thanks Jun 07 15:12:29 QcMat: dungeon keeper popped up a dialog asking users to rate the app, with two buttons... if they tapped the "5*" button, they were taken to the store to rate it... if they tapped the "1-4*" button, they were taken to an EA page where they were asked to comment on the app Jun 07 15:12:34 Sicp: I found it... I was looking at someone elses code, and they had just not included it. Jun 07 15:12:42 Leeds GROSS Jun 07 15:12:44 wow -_- Jun 07 15:12:47 EA gotta EA Jun 07 15:12:57 nasty, eh? Jun 07 15:13:00 indeed Jun 07 15:13:08 I worked with EA for 2 years, ive seen the grossness hehe Jun 07 15:13:14 but that tops it off Jun 07 15:13:19 of course, once the player had been sent to the play store, they could rate it whatever they wanted... but still Jun 07 15:13:27 yeah it's just bad Jun 07 15:13:37 Qc: stackoverflow.com/questions/8843550/adding-a-google-1-button-in-android-app Jun 07 15:13:53 night927, so we cant control the positioning or anything of the button? Jun 07 15:14:00 it's just Google UI and that's it? Jun 07 15:16:23 Alas, I don't know. That link seemed relevant to your inquiry but I don't have experience putting it into practice. Jun 07 15:16:26 <7F1AAUX1X> Is there a Swift-to-Android compiler? Jun 07 15:16:41 there is not 7F1AAUX1X, appcodes will probably get onto it Jun 07 15:16:54 else they have to die Jun 07 15:16:58 so I guess they will get onto it Jun 07 15:17:13 night927, thanks for the linkl Jun 07 15:17:37 I was hoping someone had already done this on cpp side, maybe I can do it and github it Jun 07 15:17:42 and get all the internet points \o/ Jun 07 15:19:12 I got a last question for you android vets Jun 07 15:19:29 if you had to prioritize getting reviews or +1s, which would it be? Jun 07 15:19:45 I'm kind of confused, as both kind of serve the same purpose, +1 being more friend focused Jun 07 15:20:30 reviews Jun 07 15:20:58 thanks Leeds , I guess I should focus on that then, like iOS Jun 07 15:21:04 I got sidetracked by +1 concept Jun 07 15:21:39 on iOS reviews will totally make an app be from nothing to a pretty nice success, obviously has direct link to rankings Jun 07 15:21:48 for me, I look at the number of reviews to see how useful the average score is likely to be, and assuming the score is decently high, I'd call it a proxy for how popular the app is Jun 07 15:21:51 ASO + reviews = win Jun 07 15:22:00 ok cool Jun 07 15:22:11 I bought a nexus 5 to "get into android" 3 weeks ago, love the phone so far Jun 07 15:22:18 so that I can be more exposed to all those concepts and apps Jun 07 15:22:24 learning experience Jun 07 15:22:39 I focussed on iOS only for too long hehe Jun 07 15:23:10 eh, if you're making millions on iOS, I'd probably say stick with it :P Jun 07 15:23:13 do you live in quebec Jun 07 15:23:17 I do nick9998 Jun 07 15:23:29 me too i live in montreal Jun 07 15:23:30 Leeds, I got all my apps ported to android, might as well give it a try, fortunately it was easy because I use cocos2d-x Jun 07 15:23:35 cool nick9998 , i'm 15 minutes south Jun 07 15:23:39 example? Jun 07 15:23:51 I got 2 at powpowgames.com and another at epicninjagame.com Leeds Jun 07 15:23:58 and quite a few more small niche apps Jun 07 15:24:13 my favorite is epic ninja game and it's an epic faillure hehe Jun 07 15:24:20 it's the game I wanted to make since I was 11 :) Jun 07 15:24:45 nick9998, not many mobile devs in montreal on freenode! Jun 07 15:24:50 you're the 2nd I see :) Jun 07 15:25:14 haha true dat Jun 07 15:25:19 Are you french? I am Jun 07 15:25:32 judging by your name I guess no Jun 07 15:25:33 ? Jun 07 15:25:47 no english Jun 07 15:25:49 ok cool Jun 07 15:25:52 i live in montreal-est tho Jun 07 15:25:54 no worries im no PQ fanatic :P Jun 07 15:25:59 cool, my sister lives there Jun 07 15:26:11 ill msg you in pv, we're getting off topic Jun 07 15:32:29 unity is good because its cross-platform, i think Jun 07 15:32:44 question: is it the same unity as unity on ubuntu Jun 07 15:32:45 ? Jun 07 15:33:01 I use both cocos2d-x and unity Jun 07 15:33:03 lol? Jun 07 15:33:04 unity is awesome indeed Jun 07 15:33:06 nick9998: what ? :D Jun 07 15:33:40 no, it's not the same unity as ubuntu's UI platform Jun 07 15:34:05 ah ok Jun 07 15:34:29 interesting Jun 07 15:34:37 I would have thought they'd follow each other, the versions Jun 07 15:34:45 I cant wait for unity 5, should be fun Jun 07 15:34:56 no, no... ubuntu has a GNOME front-end, called unity - window manager, desktop, icons, etc. Jun 07 15:35:03 it's nothing to do with the 3D/game engine Jun 07 15:35:24 I assumed that's what nick9998 meant... Jun 07 15:35:27 yes Jun 07 15:35:31 one of them should change names Jun 07 15:37:01 haha one of them Jun 07 15:37:03 I wonder which... Jun 07 15:37:40 mostly, I think people don't confuse them :P Jun 07 15:37:44 there's that Jun 07 15:37:51 just nick9998 Jun 07 15:37:56 there was an iphone before the iphone, and there was swift programming before swift from apple Jun 07 15:38:03 when you are a big corporation, you dont give a shit Jun 07 15:38:20 Testing Jun 07 15:38:43 I don't think canonical or whoever-owns/makes-unity3d are big enough companies to walk over trademarks like that Jun 07 15:39:03 interesting Jun 07 15:39:08 I would have thought they'd have some serious money Jun 07 15:39:13 but then yeah, it's expensive, niche Jun 07 15:40:42 I wouldn't be too surprised if the two of them had informally agreed to respect each other's naming - given that AFAIK unity3d is only really officially supported for Linux on Ubuntu anyway Jun 07 15:41:28 quite possible it was a decision done early Jun 07 15:41:33 before unity as we know it became big Jun 07 15:42:23 which unity? ;) Jun 07 15:43:12 the big one hehe Jun 07 15:43:15 unity3d.com Jun 07 15:43:26 unless im mistaken and the other is a big one too? Jun 07 15:43:48 it's as big as ubuntu is... which is somewhat questionable Jun 07 15:43:56 oh ok it's big then Jun 07 15:44:07 ubuntu is big enough that i'd call it big Jun 07 15:45:48 anyway, /me afk Jun 07 16:02:39 hello Jun 07 16:02:47 hey Jun 07 16:03:13 is there an event I can listen to that occurs when FrgmentTransaction is reversed? Jun 07 16:31:56 Hi all, I'm trying to use OpenGL 1.1 with SDL, and for a good majority of the functions I'm using I get the error "called unimplemented OpenGL API" Jun 07 16:32:01 and the tag is libEGL Jun 07 16:32:13 Does anyone know what could be causing that? Jun 07 16:32:48 ? Jun 07 16:33:29 how to program Jun 07 16:33:38 need to study bokk? Jun 07 16:33:52 Nah... Jun 07 16:33:57 aNDr0iD EaSy ? Jun 07 16:35:04 dependency inject all the things! Jun 07 16:35:17 too late now though Jun 07 16:35:38 wHo iS dEPeNDeNCy ? Jun 07 16:36:32 your mom Jun 07 16:36:35 hOw LoNG iS A=1; B=1; PRINT C=A+B; pRoGrAm iN aNDr0iD ? Jun 07 16:38:01 kEyBoArD hAs 104-150+ sInGLe iNpUT Jun 07 16:38:05 Da_Rhyno, Android uses OpenGL ES, not OpenGL Jun 07 16:38:20 tOuCh sCrEEn hAs 1920x1080 = 9MiLLi0n iNpUTs ? Jun 07 16:38:49 Ologn - I know. I meant to say OpenGL ES 1.1, my apologies on that. Jun 07 16:38:57 2 MiLLi0n Jun 07 16:39:11 Ologn - Have you ever seen an error like that befor? Jun 07 16:39:12 2073600+ Jun 07 16:39:13 before* Jun 07 16:39:23 hi guys Jun 07 16:39:28 I'm using SDL2 with the NDK. Jun 07 16:40:02 Da_Rhyno: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5926316/android-gles20-called-unimplemented-opengl-es-api Jun 07 16:40:03 ? Jun 07 16:40:07 iS tHiS #aNdR0iD-dEV-bEGiNNEr ? Jun 07 16:40:14 flwico: Please type properly, not that mix of lower and upper case characters Jun 07 16:40:25 i want to create a global map variable so that multiple fragments can manipulate it. I have been told to stay away from global variables all my life, is there a better method to doing this? Jun 07 16:40:32 Read d.android.com if you want to learn how to program for Android Jun 07 16:40:57 jubjub_: what's the global map for? Jun 07 16:41:23 U aLL DiD 4+ yRs android programming course ? Jun 07 16:41:53 Mango_Man: essentially there is a name attached to an array of objects. the first fragment displays the name and the second will display the respective object array as a list. Jun 07 16:41:57 Da_Rhyno, you might have to indicate you are using OpenGL ES in the manifest Jun 07 16:42:04 Mango_Man - I've seen this before. However I haven't tried using glGetString(). I need to see if I can even access it through the NDK... It appears as though a lot of OpenGL ES 1.x functions aren't being found. Jun 07 16:42:08 Ologn - I did. Jun 07 16:42:33

Jun 07 16:42:44 jubjub_: seems complicated, why do you need two fragments for that? Jun 07 16:43:53 Mango_Man: A similar scenario is like Gmail where you have multiple accounts in one fragment (equivalent to my "names") and a list of objects (emails) in another fragment Jun 07 16:46:28 jubjub_: i guess you wouldn't need a map though, since you could set fragment arguments whenever you select an account Jun 07 16:46:38 in your gmail example Jun 07 16:46:50 hOw mUCh tO sTuDy tO gEt aNDr0iD pRoGrAMMEr cErtiFiCATe ? Jun 07 16:47:23 flwico: Again, please type properly. Jun 07 16:47:33 A L0T! Jun 07 16:48:19 adnroid shcould be simpl like touch and rotate n shake Jun 07 16:48:22 jubjub_: it could be cleaner if you reasoned about dependencies, like "this content fragment requires an account object" or something like that Jun 07 16:48:27 ? Jun 07 16:48:35 i only learned dagger yesterday :D Jun 07 16:48:53 flwico: go to coursera.com Jun 07 16:49:02 Mango_Man: to send my object array in as an argument it would need to be parcelable correct? Jun 07 16:49:10 how many lines program neeed to take camra foto n add gps location to it ? Jun 07 16:49:27 flwico: 43K Jun 07 16:49:34 ?? Jun 07 16:49:40 43 thousand lines Jun 07 16:49:41 ? Jun 07 16:49:47 including foto ? Jun 07 16:49:57 no im just shittin ya my man Jun 07 16:50:03 40kb foto 3 kb program Jun 07 16:50:03 ? Jun 07 16:50:28 flwico: i can tell you that a GPU graphics driver contains more than 60 million lines of code Jun 07 16:51:02 android just can do " get.photo.from.camera.1280x720 && send.to.email ? Jun 07 16:51:06 jubjub_: i don't know, where are you getting your objects? maybe it'd be better if you could get those objects in the fragment to avoid having to pass them Jun 07 16:51:38 pc gpu ? Jun 07 16:51:38 flwico: no you need to know the minutia of 3d rendering Jun 07 16:51:59 the different z-buffering techniques etc Jun 07 16:52:19 but nvidia driver is free Jun 07 16:52:29 only gpu hardware costs Jun 07 16:52:32 hmm you make a good point Jun 07 16:52:45 nobody gives 60mil lines typing free Jun 07 16:53:07 flwico: it's all compiled into a binary so you can't really see the source code.. Jun 07 16:53:11 i can dwnload it without buying gpu Jun 07 16:53:29 and why need source > Jun 07 16:53:31 ? Jun 07 16:53:41 i go jail if copy paste ? Jun 07 16:53:47 yes :( Jun 07 16:53:49 android is not free ? Jun 07 16:54:03 its free as in beer Jun 07 16:54:07 apple is not free and scam Jun 07 16:54:19 never seen beer Jun 07 16:54:20 Mango_Man: i think ill move the map into the second fragment and then i can just send in the key when switching fragments Jun 07 16:54:29 but hear that bere joke a lot online Jun 07 16:54:31 wat it means ? Jun 07 16:55:00 beer is free but not free wat how ?? Jun 07 16:55:20 u pay 500% tax on free beer bottle ? Jun 07 16:55:24 watever Jun 07 16:55:45 Mango_Man: my second question is how can i save this map so that it is not destroyed when the fragment//app is destroyed? Jun 07 16:55:53 flwico: do you have any icons Jun 07 16:56:06 i'm looking for a lava lamp icon specifically, can you help me Jun 07 16:56:15 animated ? Jun 07 16:56:19 32x32 ? Jun 07 16:56:22 no Jun 07 16:56:26 72x72 Jun 07 16:56:29 jubjub_: is this map data always the same? so you're not hitting the network or a DB or anything? Jun 07 16:56:32 how can u not find ?? Jun 07 16:56:43 u dont knw how to convert images to ico ? Jun 07 16:56:51 i would need transparent png Jun 07 16:56:53 thanks Jun 07 16:57:10 i have many transparent png Jun 07 16:57:16 sweet Jun 07 16:57:28 i play with those in the 1MB paint app Jun 07 16:57:31 Mango_Man: the map data is local to the device. Jun 07 16:57:48 its same shape as image , not suare box tile Jun 07 16:58:00 and add elastic, water, wax all effects Jun 07 16:58:13 then bend n burn it Jun 07 16:58:23 that sounds way too complicated Jun 07 16:58:36 jubjub_: you could save it as an xml resource and load it in whenever you need it Jun 07 16:58:52 can you just make me the 72x72 transparent png lava lamp icon Jun 07 16:59:04