**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 10 02:59:59 2014 Jun 10 03:08:38 so, I've activated devmode on the hardware device and recieved ID from adb.exe devices. What next? Jun 10 03:08:57 Do I still need to install drivers? Jun 10 03:09:13 context? Jun 10 03:10:24 bankai_au: android: galaxy tab 4, PC, win8.1 x64 Jun 10 03:11:19 what are you trying to do? Jun 10 03:12:13 build to device in debug mode Jun 10 03:12:56 if it comes up in 'adb devices' you should be able to deploy to it Jun 10 03:13:05 bankai_au: ok, how? Jun 10 03:13:35 have you built your application? Jun 10 03:14:26 o n/m it is listed... trying now Jun 10 03:15:39 ...waiting for debugger to attach... Jun 10 03:16:52 works a treat! ty! Jun 10 04:16:50 no, thank you Spotify, I do not want "Let's Get It On" as part of my coding background music... Jun 10 04:59:33 capella,hi Jun 10 05:03:51 http://www.infoq.com/news/2014/06/groovy-android Jun 10 05:05:59 getting better and better Jun 10 05:13:57 I have closed some projects in the workspace and cretaed a new android application project keeping the library reference to appcompat_v7 Jun 10 05:14:31 But I see a red exclametory symbol in front of the new project folder Jun 10 05:14:47 The error says nullpointerexception Jun 10 05:15:23 I have right clicked on the newly cretared project folder and checked the properties where it should refer to the appcompat_v7 Jun 10 05:15:33 But it shows a cross there Jun 10 05:15:39 what could be the issue Jun 10 05:15:53 what are you talking about? is this some eclipse problem? Jun 10 05:16:23 bankai_au you holding down the fort ? :) Jun 10 05:16:40 not now you're here *bolts* Jun 10 05:17:15 i can't do it :| Jun 10 05:17:38 took a few weeks off from android and feel like i forgot everything Jun 10 05:18:16 AS is buggy and wrong, fragments suck, rxjava is great -- consider yourself caught up Jun 10 05:18:26 yes eclipse problem Jun 10 05:18:52 bankai_au i think android needs a real shock+awe announcement at I/O Jun 10 05:18:57 * g00s crosses fingers Jun 10 05:19:42 things i'd like to see; java 8; new permission system, maybe new language choices, etc Jun 10 05:20:34 swift? Jun 10 05:20:36 i think this 4.4.3 update fixed my BT issues which were making me very mad, so no i can calm down Jun 10 05:21:02 i haven't looked at swift yet Jun 10 05:21:06 what do you think ? Jun 10 05:21:19 g00s: I've seen hilarious benchmarks for swift :3 Jun 10 05:21:20 crap, but better than obj-c Jun 10 05:21:32 anyone here roll their own android? I built aosp, wondering how hard it is to get the google apps and google play going on a galaxy nexus Jun 10 05:21:40 spikebike: topic Jun 10 05:22:55 bankai_au its good to see rxjava releases calm down; for a while they were putting something out every day - was getting kind of annoying Jun 10 05:23:32 oh yeah, that be great if they replaced fragments with something else heh Jun 10 05:23:34 yeah i know, API changing a lot, internal code changing a lot Jun 10 05:23:47 how about an official non-beta release of AS? Jun 10 05:24:08 I don't think it's ready for that yet? Jun 10 05:26:09 imho google needs much better memory analysis tooling Jun 10 05:26:22 the eclipse monitor heap analyzer it pure shit Jun 10 05:26:57 hierarchy viewer works sometimes … when it wants, very flaky Jun 10 05:28:01 so we'll see; duarte said some eyebrow raising things a few months back, i think we'll get something completely unexpected ;) Jun 10 05:28:43 eh? Jun 10 05:29:08 when duarte said 'apps' weren't the way to go , moving forward Jun 10 05:29:13 you know what would be really unexpected? Non-java, native interface to framework Jun 10 05:29:21 ... that sounds bad Jun 10 05:30:13 i had a big think about this the other day, g00s , and it seems like we've kinda done a backflip regarding applications Jun 10 05:30:51 back in the day everyone had an application for the desktop. i remember even my bank did, then everything got pushed into the browser (remember applets?), then improved - "web 2.0 or whatever" Jun 10 05:31:10 now we've got mobile devices we've kinda gone back to this 'install everything' mentality... i'm not entirely convinced this is a 'bad' thing, but it's interesting Jun 10 05:31:33 i find myself a lot thinking "ffs i just want to view your website, i don't need some stupid application just to do this thing once" Jun 10 05:31:44 bankai_au: and the web apps are often pretty shitty Jun 10 05:32:19 well that's right Jun 10 05:32:53 it's one thing when it's obviously something better fitting as a website (bank, news *site*), but if you push everything into crappy web, I'll find you and do unspeakable acts with a rusty spoon Jun 10 05:34:10 (I don't live in the half-fictional bubble of internet always working) Jun 10 05:35:40 p_l yeah … i was driving across the US and almost never had a data connection unless in a big city Jun 10 05:35:56 was nice that WP maps worked beautifully Jun 10 05:36:02 i never thought that'd be a problem in the US :/ Jun 10 05:36:17 actually, i took a huge risk and didn't plan a damb thing - just plugged into the phone and followed it the whole time Jun 10 05:36:41 bankai_au oh shit, there is almost nothing between the coasts if not a major city Jun 10 05:36:53 bankai_au: I heard that US networks are generally shitty anyway :P Jun 10 05:37:15 some of the state visitor centers had good data connections. like Texas on I40 Jun 10 05:37:21 i have heard that, but i just thought it was americans bitching about nothing.... Jun 10 05:37:33 most you were lucky if you got a few bars of 2G :) Jun 10 05:38:02 thankfully you can always go into mcdonalds and use their wifi Jun 10 05:38:06 :D Jun 10 05:38:15 https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/blob/master/pkg/namesgenerator/names-generator.go#L83 Jun 10 05:38:49 bankai_au drive across new mexico, texas, oklahoma, tennessee, arkansas - there is nothing there Jun 10 05:39:02 actually knoxville was kinda cool Jun 10 05:41:23 well, there's 9200 bit/s if you dare the fees Jun 10 05:42:39 i turned data roaming off, didn't want a surprise bill Jun 10 05:43:07 what i really liked about my little lumia 521, is that the UI was simple, and it was very reliable. it just worked Jun 10 05:43:28 almost like a mix between dumb phone and smart phone, seems primitive in some ways compared to android Jun 10 05:45:08 very few options, very stripped down. the System settings app was kinda eclectic and not well organized Jun 10 05:46:20 bing worked flawlessly Jun 10 05:46:27 g00s: !!! Jun 10 05:46:41 i started using bing for the hell of it, don't really notice any difference between google search Jun 10 05:46:47 lol Jun 10 05:46:48 they both work just fine Jun 10 05:46:52 hey thepoosh Jun 10 05:46:53 it's better for video search Jun 10 05:47:09 i used it to search for hotels, stuff in the area - worked great Jun 10 05:47:46 i don't really feel like google has improved search in around 10 years, and in that time bing caught up for the most part Jun 10 05:48:04 i doubt any of us could tell the difference blindfolded Jun 10 05:49:21 i'm reading this huge mary meeker presentation from the other week Jun 10 05:49:51 ??? Jun 10 05:50:09 I read an article bashing bad android apps on the play store? Jun 10 05:50:14 I meant . Jun 10 05:50:38 the meeker presentation ? Jun 10 05:51:06 dunno Jun 10 05:51:11 it went through MS apps Jun 10 05:51:17 what UI element should I use for a like/dislike button ? Jun 10 05:51:22 and showed why they got such bad reviews Jun 10 05:51:33 Jonno_FTW: a FB like button? Jun 10 05:52:40 not really Jun 10 05:53:04 similar to reddit vote buttons Jun 10 05:53:14 or SO Jun 10 05:53:59 groovy on android might be nice Jun 10 05:54:38 i doubt i'd use groovy, kinda a sloppy language Jun 10 05:55:27 i hate that postmodern language design shit, like perl 'sometimes, you don't need ( ) if ...' Jun 10 05:56:19 what would be cool: advanced linking between Java objects and native objects (with well-defined IDL and calling conventions), coupled with LLVM bitcode target :D Jun 10 05:57:04 g00s: I like scala more too ;) Jun 10 05:57:17 yeah, i'd be more interested in that Jun 10 06:02:34 the other nice little app i used on WP was OneNote, which ties into the desktop version nicely Jun 10 06:02:47 OneNote works on the mac too Jun 10 06:02:55 much better than Keep Jun 10 06:03:36 so imho the boys & girls in redmond are working hard, doing nice things. nice to have another alternative ;) Jun 10 06:06:15 some annoyances with WP : seems like really no notification center at all Jun 10 06:06:41 * capella when I see "WP" I still think WordPerfect Jun 10 06:06:44 but maybe they kinda see the live tiles as doing that Jun 10 06:07:14 well playede Jun 10 06:07:53 g00s: OneNote is kinda different niche than Keep, IMO Jun 10 06:08:09 this lumia 521 from t-mo had wifi-calling; i guess android has this too if the carrier implements it Jun 10 06:09:10 not really sure what Keep is, kinda like a hello world note-taking app with nice animations Jun 10 06:09:33 hasn't even been updated in a while Jun 10 06:09:47 one of those 'ok, where is google going with this one :) ' Jun 10 06:11:51 who uses robotium? Jun 10 06:13:10 most importantly, IE on WP didn't suck as bad as i thought it would … but i still really don't like any of the mobile rowsers Jun 10 06:13:30 i think safari on iOS was my favorite mobile browser Jun 10 06:13:40 even though i love FF ;) Jun 10 06:14:07 gordon_ we use robotium @ mozilla Jun 10 06:14:40 capella: how can I wait for activity to show up ? Jun 10 06:14:44 or any good sources of tests Jun 10 06:14:49 I don't recommend it, fyi Jun 10 06:15:04 what's better than it Jun 10 06:16:59 expresso Jun 10 06:17:21 haven't found anything ... just still can't recommend robotium ... it's code style is "get confused and throw exception and die" Jun 10 06:17:40 Maziz: expresso is deprecated AFAIK ? Jun 10 06:18:11 where did you hear that? Jun 10 06:18:46 dont know Jun 10 06:18:51 if it's not that's good Jun 10 06:19:12 can a parcel have more than one array? Jun 10 06:19:26 parcel -? Jun 10 06:19:34 https://code.google.com/p/android-test-kit/ Jun 10 06:19:38 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Parcel.html Jun 10 06:19:50 Maziz: I will check it out Jun 10 06:19:55 can I use espresso on android 2.x ? Jun 10 06:20:41 im not sure about that. Jun 10 06:21:02 parceable should be able to store more than one array. Jun 10 06:22:01 i will give espresso the shot Jun 10 06:22:10 *a shot Jun 10 06:29:12 Maziz: can I wait for next activity in espresso ? Jun 10 06:29:26 or there are no problems like that Jun 10 06:29:28 i think so Jun 10 06:29:45 im not so sure or clear on that Jun 10 06:29:52 ok I will check it Jun 10 07:01:05 hey :) Jun 10 07:01:14 can anyone help me with a scrollview question? Jun 10 07:01:55 I have a button inside of a scrollview. I added a few more things to the scrollview programatically. How do I move the button to the bottom of the scroll view instead of keeping it at the top? Jun 10 07:04:21 Maziz: ok i watched presentation about espresso Jun 10 07:04:29 so it should be good Jun 10 07:17:10 Maxoplata: you should add a layout in scroll view first and add your view in that layout Jun 10 07:17:22 then you arrange accordingly using LayoutParams. Jun 10 07:26:17 Maxoplata, A ScrollView CANNOT have more than one Child View . that's the rule. Jun 10 07:27:30 Maxoplata, so it should be this way: ScrollView [ LinearLayout [ Vieeeeeeewwwsss...] ] Jun 10 07:27:37 what? but I want a scrollview in my scrollview Jun 10 07:28:22 capella, yes you can do that, but It is usually a HorizontalScrollView Jun 10 07:28:27 ;) and an iframe in my iframe Jun 10 07:29:10 but you cannot have something like: ScrollView [ [view] [view] ] Jun 10 07:29:29 but you cannot have something like: ScrollView [ [view] [view] ... [view] ] , I mean Jun 10 07:30:39 you can for example have one BIIIIIG and HUUUGE TextView to scroll it down. Jun 10 07:33:55 heh - needless complexity can be fun ... but not always :) Jun 10 07:35:27 ☺ Jun 10 07:37:06 Hi, I have recored some video of my problem, hopefully someone can help Jun 10 07:37:07 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/34256178/Elipse.mp4 Jun 10 07:40:00 Hi, how would i make two edit text change value based on what the user types on each, i implemented text watcher on the first edit text worked fine but when i did on the second edit text i get stackoverflow error Jun 10 07:40:06 please help Jun 10 07:40:43 OhjinXX: i doubt anyone is going to click your link without you even explaining what your problem is Jun 10 07:41:50 sorry, its googleplayservices library causing a conflict with my project Jun 10 07:42:07 atributes have already been defined is the awnser i get Jun 10 07:42:29 I was on here yesterday, but thought id do a video to make it clearer Jun 10 07:43:42 ok so here's what I did, I placed a switch statement over the newVersion in DB onUpgrade(), and inside that switch I placed the edits one after the other. Edit table name, drop another table, add column to renamed table Jun 10 07:43:44 that should do it Jun 10 07:45:32 the link is to a video, should stream from the webpage, no need to download Jun 10 07:48:26 someone who could help me with a support searchview? Jun 10 07:49:03 always getting Error inflating class SearchView Jun 10 07:52:48 hello Jun 10 07:56:05 i recorded that vid specially for you Sicp lol Jun 10 07:56:21 so you could see i lined the gps library properly Jun 10 08:03:29 haha Jun 10 08:03:32 sure I'll see Jun 10 08:04:33 that's a very fast internet Jun 10 08:04:52 Sicp: really? Jun 10 08:04:59 to me yea Jun 10 08:05:09 good, i'm going lyrical this morning... Jun 10 08:05:16 well my subscription here is 2Mb, so 250kbps Jun 10 08:05:36 have been facing with series of error since morning and i'm thinking of given up... Jun 10 08:05:44 but i think that's not the best open Jun 10 08:05:47 option Jun 10 08:06:14 Now, i believe someone is here to assist me... Jun 10 08:07:54 this is the error i recieved whenever i click on a button "The application may be doing too much work on its main thread." i attached OnClickListener to the button Jun 10 08:08:32 jesus I thought you meant GPS as in LOCATION Jun 10 08:08:36 you meant google play services! Jun 10 08:09:00 No, my development environment --- android Jun 10 08:09:15 no Im talking to OhjinXX Jun 10 08:09:39 Oops! Jun 10 08:10:20 Google play services, GPS for short Jun 10 08:10:39 I thought i was being clever, obviously not. lol Jun 10 08:10:57 but I dont get it, why do you then import the project from the SDK after having installed it from the SDK manager Jun 10 08:11:08 if you install it, this means that you have it and then you can reference it in code Jun 10 08:11:09 why do that again Jun 10 08:11:21 tutorial said so? I never used it myself Jun 10 08:11:51 ah, it was from a tutorial. Jun 10 08:12:02 If I can reference it from code that is great Jun 10 08:12:15 have you got a source where the code would be Jun 10 08:12:17 okay... tutorial stuff! Jun 10 08:12:39 So I shouldnt load it in? Jun 10 08:12:46 I mean just wherever you want to use google play services inside the code, the code will prompt to import the appropriate classes Jun 10 08:12:47 I should just code it in? Jun 10 08:12:56 ok Jun 10 08:13:01 just start using it as you normally would, it should prompt for import from what you installed in the SDK manager Jun 10 08:13:19 like you do with the usual Android versions, you install them from the SDK manager and you start using their classes in the code Jun 10 08:13:21 like ActionBar Jun 10 08:13:22 etc Jun 10 08:14:11 While surfing the code http://androidxref.com/4.2_r1/xref/frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server/SystemServer.java it is the place where are services are started. but i could not locate, where init2() is invoked from ? Jun 10 08:14:15 could someone help me ? Jun 10 08:15:40 I did not create this project within Eclipse, It is an exported apk from a game engine, that I have unpacked and the imported into Eclipse, So my knoledge of referencing classes etc is very limited Jun 10 08:15:56 but at least you have given me another avenue to work from Jun 10 08:17:25 Hello guys, how do i make two edit text change it text based on the other, implementing text watcher on both gives me stackoverflow as it creats an infinite loop, i am doing currency conversion in two text area Jun 10 08:19:27 meadhikari, channel #android is a right place for application specific question, that was my experience with this channel. :) Jun 10 08:20:24 Keestu, i have been told their that it is not the developer channel but to discuss just android stuffs Jun 10 08:21:06 hahaha Jun 10 08:21:29 I have two edit text that need to listen to each other and change their values, using text watcher in both is creating an infinite loop please help Jun 10 08:21:39 i m also bounced back and forth between these two channels.. Jun 10 08:22:37 Keestu, trying me hand there too lets see :) Jun 10 08:22:57 good luck :) Jun 10 08:27:55 Sicp and hackable this is the tutorial i was going by check out strep 1. with its sub points as well Jun 10 08:27:57 http://googleforstudents.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/what-you-need-to-know-to-install-admob.html Jun 10 08:28:23 hackable, that too much work thing is not an error, it appears in orange doesnt it Jun 10 08:28:27 or green even Jun 10 08:28:46 ah, well I guess thats how you use it, OhjinXX ... Jun 10 08:29:04 you need steps 2 and 3 of course, which explains why the error would appear in xml Jun 10 08:29:45 yeah, should I not do those steps? Jun 10 08:29:57 you should follow all of them man Jun 10 08:30:06 like a bible Jun 10 08:30:15 agggh, i wonder why it errors out then Jun 10 08:30:21 dont rely on what you hear here as truth Jun 10 08:30:37 its just trying, only YOU can stop forest fires Jun 10 08:31:46 I thought firemen also stop forrest fires? Jun 10 08:31:55 heyyyyy DB upgrade worked! Jun 10 08:31:57 and neighbours Jun 10 08:31:58 thanks JakeWharton ! Jun 10 08:32:02 seamless! Jun 10 08:32:09 god I was so scurreddd Jun 10 08:35:44 nah it's a saying from some American show or commercial Jun 10 08:35:48 Smokey Bear Jun 10 08:36:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2tra1bYGkw Jun 10 08:37:12 amerecuh Jun 10 08:41:21 Sup everyone Jun 10 08:42:07 hackable, do you have System.gc() calls anywhere Jun 10 08:43:37 Sicp all i am wanting to do is sign my unsigned apk file, this eclipse is throwing a massive problem at me and stopping me from moving forward. Any ideas on how I can sign my apk for release without using elipse? Jun 10 08:43:41 A bit of a n00b question here: could anybody tell me if it's possible to deploy an app both on Android (using the SDK for the UI) and on desktop (with Qt for the UI)? Jun 10 08:44:12 That is same codebase and not run into execution/compilation errors when deploying to the different platforms. Jun 10 08:44:54 right click > Android Tools > Export Signed Application Package is not working, OhjinXX ? Jun 10 08:45:18 there is no room for error in it... Jun 10 08:45:21 its just a click Jun 10 08:45:32 granted you have created the keystore correctly Jun 10 08:45:44 no, because of the errors it wont let me export Jun 10 08:45:56 you cant if there are errors Jun 10 08:46:05 because it will build it I think Jun 10 08:47:07 hmmm i think i'll leave the gps and admob code, and try to do admob when its uploaded on google play Jun 10 08:47:53 Anybody has any idea? Jun 10 08:54:16 Anybody? Any idea? How to keep both Qt for desktops and native Android UI in the same codebase and pick one implementation or the other with some compiler flag or something depending if I'm deploying to Android or desktop? Jun 10 08:55:20 put all your functionality in a jar and reference it from your 2 applications? Jun 10 08:55:26 botulox: I'm sure you could have some shared libraries and models, sure? Jun 10 08:56:57 So 2 codebases and share modules then? No way to make it pretty with a single codebase deploying to multiple platforms with a switch? Jun 10 08:57:30 is that pretty? Jun 10 08:57:34 Sounds horrible Jun 10 08:58:17 Well that's what compile flags get used for. Jun 10 08:58:50 sounds like you write C or something more often Jun 10 08:59:49 the way i'd do this would be a project that contained 3 modules, the android app, the qt app and a library that had all the shared functionality Jun 10 08:59:55 Can't really say I "write" C when I've never done any app, just some crude hacks when I need to, and customize the functionality of apps by compiling with different flags Jun 10 09:00:18 then when you build the whole thing your get 2 artefacts out, an android app and a qt app Jun 10 09:00:21 (and a library) Jun 10 09:00:28 but that's not important Jun 10 09:01:02 So you can set Java to spit two binaries in a single project? Jun 10 09:01:52 no, you create one project that does android and one that does qt Jun 10 09:01:57 and one that has shared stuff Jun 10 09:01:58 Your build system will make separate builds probably with different compilers Jun 10 09:02:07 then you build it all thhether Jun 10 09:02:11 *together Jun 10 09:02:15 http://www.gradle.org/docs/current/userguide/multi_project_builds.html Jun 10 09:02:29 or https://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-multiple-modules.html Jun 10 09:02:55 Will take a look at the links, thanks. Jun 10 09:03:41 And yeah, that sounds pretty much like what I wanted. I appreciate the input. Jun 10 09:10:23 has anyone got recent experience with admob? Jun 10 09:12:10 OhjinXX: are you doing a survey? Jun 10 09:12:57 no, i want to use it in my app, but its not been so straight forward getting it in there Jun 10 09:14:24 you need to ask your actual question... Jun 10 09:25:22 is there any way i can run android app on linux without any virtual machine Jun 10 09:26:13 is there any way i can run android app on linux without any virtual machine Jun 10 09:27:34 so we finally uploaded our app to google play at work... search finds it but when trying to open the app page it says "item not found"... which is really interesting Jun 10 09:28:42 hello? Jun 10 09:29:01 i want to run android apps on linux can i do that? Jun 10 09:29:09 if yes, then how? Jun 10 09:29:41 no Jun 10 09:29:53 why? Jun 10 09:30:01 if windows can run apps Jun 10 09:30:07 then why not linux? Jun 10 09:30:59 There's no way I know of to run android apps on windows without a virtual processor under the hood Jun 10 09:31:26 you can run some apps in the emulator I guess Jun 10 09:31:39 Zharf: the emulator IS a virtual processor, based on qemu Jun 10 09:31:40 running on linux you need i32 library Jun 10 09:32:35 okkkk Jun 10 09:33:00 do we have any player like bluestack on linux Jun 10 09:33:03 to run apps Jun 10 09:33:05 sonOfRa, -.-' Jun 10 09:34:41 i was trying to say that i dont want to install android in VM, but if player is running on the basis of qemu then i have no problem at all Jun 10 09:35:07 it should run faster like bluestack Jun 10 09:38:30 ????? Jun 10 09:39:01 Zharf> you can run some apps in the emulator I guess Jun 10 09:39:06 Maziz> running on linux you need i32 library Jun 10 09:39:13 what doesnt please you here? Jun 10 09:39:32 o.O? Jun 10 09:39:33 is this way too slow or what? Jun 10 09:39:41 he is still asking you see Jun 10 09:39:46 guys Jun 10 09:40:12 ah i think i read wrongly Jun 10 09:40:17 does anyone use google play private channel? Jun 10 09:40:37 if you want to dev on linux using x64 linux, you need ot use i32 library.. Jun 10 09:40:39 okkkkk Jun 10 09:40:50 if i install i32 library than Jun 10 09:40:54 what next? Jun 10 09:41:25 oaulakh: forget about that. I thought you were asking setting up dev env. Jun 10 09:41:58 i dunno what u r talking about Jun 10 09:42:05 but i want to run apps on linux Jun 10 09:42:06 Maziz: no he just wants to run an app, so its not slow Jun 10 09:42:10 thats all what i wnat Jun 10 09:42:34 Maziz: he finds qemu fast, and he finds vm slow Jun 10 09:42:46 yeah right Jun 10 09:43:04 i work once with qemu Jun 10 09:43:20 doesnt sound right to me since an emulator will always suck (and qemu should too) but i hope Maziz gets the idea at least Jun 10 09:43:26 when i installed mini linux on windows pc for first time virtually Jun 10 09:43:35 and it was so much faster Jun 10 09:43:40 like dragon fire Jun 10 09:43:54 okokkk Jun 10 09:44:00 genymotion supports linux? Jun 10 09:44:08 gry: ? if you know or heard about it. Jun 10 09:44:21 i havent heard of any android things, no Jun 10 09:44:34 ah Jun 10 09:44:36 oaulakh: http://www.genymotion.com/features/ Jun 10 09:44:39 could try this Jun 10 09:44:48 im running it on mac, and it’s smooth. Jun 10 09:45:00 okkkk Jun 10 09:45:01 better than emulators and other emulation I’ve encountered Jun 10 09:45:03 thanks Jun 10 09:45:11 i'm also looking on this Jun 10 09:45:22 for 15 min Jun 10 09:47:05 I'm running it on arch and it's grat Jun 10 09:47:15 *great Jun 10 09:47:28 and in arch it's easy to install Jun 10 09:47:41 does installing it involve reboot? oaulakh vanished Jun 10 09:47:50 no Jun 10 09:47:53 aw Jun 10 09:47:55 you need to load kernel modules Jun 10 09:48:11 ok i sorta hope he gets it to work Jun 10 09:48:13 genymotion runs on virtualbox Jun 10 10:22:33 Hi, It may be out of scope for this channel, but does anyone know the details of how to unlock a phone so it works in another country (with sim card from somewhere else) Jun 10 10:28:34 Should app.iml be part of the version control? Jun 10 10:34:27 hello, how can i remove debug option. Every time I "Generate sikned APK" in Android studio, it is debug version Jun 10 10:40:56 TIL Night Mode... Jun 10 10:41:22 there's an option on the bottom left somewhere you can click on to change the build version Jun 10 10:57:48 If you are targetting ICS and later, can you assume the presence of Google Play Services? Jun 10 11:02:20 no Jun 10 11:02:30 users can uninstall it like I did Jun 10 11:04:54 @Zharf: thanks - that's what I feared. Another test case coming up! Jun 10 11:12:37 andyeb: the documentation has some samples to check in the runtime Jun 10 11:16:45 If you have a DataSource class to access your database. What's the common way to use it from different activities? Should you create new instances in every activity? Create static methods? Is there a standard way? Jun 10 11:18:10 Maziz: how can I wait for background task to end with espresso ? Jun 10 11:22:28 A user authenticates with a service, I load the data, what is a good place to store this object? Is there something like a cache? Jun 10 11:22:45 I want to make a GONE view to be visible by sliding from left to right (the view take the whole activity). How do I do that using NineOldAndroid? Jun 10 11:23:37 platzhirsch: database ;) Jun 10 11:23:58 gordon_: yeah, database sounds so bloated right? Is there a key-value store for Android? Jun 10 11:24:08 yes, shared preferences Jun 10 11:24:12 (those are included) Jun 10 11:24:13 sharepreferences Jun 10 11:24:22 *shared Jun 10 11:24:27 because SQLlite seems to be ridicilious Jun 10 11:25:00 why is that Jun 10 11:25:18 but speaking of databases, could it be that a cursor doesn't really return all results? And does NOTNULL work for blobs in SQLite? Jun 10 11:25:21 just for a plain object.. Jun 10 11:25:52 sqlite doesnt have blobs Jun 10 11:25:57 plain objects won't work with shared preferences, but you could use ORMLite or GreenDAO or something that I don't know (e.g. CompotORM) Jun 10 11:26:23 I'm pretty sure it does, I mean I use them on Android and they work fine. ORMLite stores objects as blobs. Jun 10 11:26:34 doesn't shared preferences work with the Parceable interface? Jun 10 11:26:44 I want to make a GONE view to be visible by sliding from left to right (the view take the whole activity). How do I do that using NineOldAndroid? Jun 10 11:26:47 oh it does Jun 10 11:26:53 why was I thinking it doesnt Jun 10 11:27:21 platzhirsch: I dont think you can store objects in shared preferences ;) Jun 10 11:27:34 gordon_: but I have a hammer Jun 10 11:27:39 I just smash them in Jun 10 11:27:47 go a head Jun 10 11:27:56 Can I iterate over a cursor with while(cursor.moveToNext())? I think that stops prematurely, but it could just be a bug somewhere else. Jun 10 11:28:16 yes Jun 10 11:29:02 platzhirsch feel free to serialise your object, add a constant to the bytes that move them in Unicode's PUA area, store that as a string in a shared pref ... ;) Jun 10 11:29:23 so troublesome Jun 10 11:30:55