**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 27 02:59:59 2014 Jun 27 03:08:13 the L preview - replacing back arrow, home, recents … with triangle, circle, square, seriously google wtf ? Jun 27 03:09:12 playschool Jun 27 03:09:27 oh ... aussie joke, i don't think anyone will get that :S Jun 27 03:18:09 where are the settings files for android studio stored? Jun 27 03:19:55 depends on platform Jun 27 03:20:35 bankai_ this is curious Jun 27 03:20:39 "As expansive as Google appears to be, it all eventually links back to the phone, which is the personal heart of the ecosystem that the company is building." Jun 27 03:20:54 but last year, or so, didn't Page say the phone was emasculating ? Jun 27 03:21:00 or was it Sergey Jun 27 03:21:42 "The choice of a person’s first smartphone drives so many of the subsequent decisions that he or she will make — such as which music streaming, cloud storage, or photo-sharing service to use — that it becomes paramount for companies to make sure that initial device is running their software." Jun 27 03:21:57 interesting Jun 27 03:24:45 "Android One phones will run stock Android, get automatic updates, and access Google’s Play Store for apps and media content." Jun 27 03:24:57 i think hey said that but i didn't realize it ... Jun 27 03:25:09 these phones sound better than most of the higher priced ones XD Jun 27 03:38:55 Android L UI is pretty cool Jun 27 03:48:41 Anybody notice how the ActivityOptions#makeSceneTransitionAnimation method doesn't exist…. https://developer.android.com/preview/material/animations.html Jun 27 03:48:51 wanted to play around with it… Jun 27 03:49:24 i am trying to use ant to compile a project using the appcompat library which is in the extras/android/support/v7 directory of the sdk. the user i am compiling the project with doesnt appear to have the correct permissions on the directory as it cant create the bin/ gen directories. it works after i chwon it to my user but i dont really want to leave it like this Jun 27 03:50:41 the android-sdk is installed with permissions set to 755 which should be adequate? any ideas why this isn't working? Jun 27 03:59:53 just a question on the d.android.com site, the beta version of Android Studio 0.8 has been released but the canary channel is still on 0.6.1 will it be published soon? Jun 27 04:03:25 how do I get logcat on L? Jun 27 04:03:31 logcat doesnt seem to work Jun 27 04:06:13 nm got it Jun 27 04:07:25 MohitKanwal dunno; but 0.8.0 is a full release bundle with the SDK too Jun 27 04:09:05 g00s: time to give it a try, although build times are really lagging behind. Jun 27 04:09:21 can anyone tell me what is the process that makes the notification bar work ? Jun 27 04:11:05 eh? Jun 27 04:12:01 jug6ernaut: just wondering cuz i want to disable the notification bar if possible. Jun 27 04:13:51 disable or hide? Jun 27 04:14:07 jug6ernaut: hide Jun 27 04:14:25 jug6ernaut: hiding is not entirely possible . is it ? it depends on the app Jun 27 04:14:29 u can hide notification bar and navigation bar, idk if u can hide just one tho Jun 27 04:16:00 jug6ernaut: how ? Jun 27 04:17:30 jug6ernaut: i wish to force hide the notification bar for all the apps Jun 27 04:18:47 :| Jun 27 04:18:50 no idea on that Jun 27 04:20:54 :) Jun 27 04:34:47 trying to enable dogfooding/team debug on Google Search, any cmd line switch to do this on L? Jun 27 04:42:52 Leeds go through all the IO stuff yet/already? what did you think ? Jun 27 04:53:33 have anyone of you used mortar? Jun 27 04:55:35 I'm wanting to have a vertical swipe to change Fragments, sort of like how in Google Play Music, you swipe up to get to the currently playing song, but I'm not sure how to do that. Can anyone here lead me in the right direction? Jun 27 04:56:16 cr5315: so you want a vertical view pager Jun 27 04:56:26 https://github.com/castorflex/VerticalViewPager Jun 27 04:56:28 Sounds about right Jun 27 05:06:59 Now I'm getting Error:Module version com.android.support:support-v13:18.0.0 depends on libraries but is not a library itself Jun 27 05:07:09 When compiling Jun 27 05:08:01 i used a mortar in the army Jun 27 05:10:09 <_Nicco_> Guys just getting started with android studio. Would anyone care to explain what the "Company Domain" is when creating a new project. Jun 27 05:23:04 could somebod please tell me what the problem is with lines 34,46, and 46? Jun 27 05:23:18 47 last one rather - http://pastebin.com/c6TM65jZ Jun 27 05:24:22 There's no problem with those lines Jun 27 05:24:53 cr5315 and yet, eclips doesnt like them :( Jun 27 05:27:12 jamesson: if only there was sort of error message you could tell us about Jun 27 05:27:56 desmin88: puling up, 1 sec... Jun 27 05:29:31 desmin88: sorry, its still doing its preflight thing Jun 27 05:29:44 android studio..... Jun 27 05:31:41 line 34; syntax error on token "}", { expected after this token Jun 27 05:32:12 46; Multiple markers at this line - overrides android.support.v4.app.Fragment.onCreateView - Syntax error on token ",", ; expected - Syntax error on token "(", ; expected - Syntax error on token ",", ; expected Jun 27 05:32:51 you probably messed up braces Jun 27 05:32:56 or general syntax somewhere Jun 27 05:41:20 get it jamesson? Jun 27 05:54:40 Are AAssetManager_openDir and friends thread-safe? Jun 27 05:55:09 (May I use them concurrently, opening different dirs from different threads?) Jun 27 06:01:22 _Nicco_: it's the inverse of package name Jun 27 06:57:33 Hi all Jun 27 06:57:53 I am able to display the gps coordinates through DDMS on the emulator Jun 27 06:58:04 how can I get the same in map Jun 27 07:08:17 JakeWharton: Where can I find details about OkHttps silent retries. After which "common network problems" does it retry? Before I start writing my own retry mechanisms, using tape. Jun 27 07:09:49 hey guys I am new to android development kinda a silly question if my application is going to be connecting to a mysqk server/php server, am I still able to create a login screen for each individual user? kind of like snapchat, etc? Jun 27 07:16:46 hi. Jun 27 07:17:04 updates to Android API 23 just came yesterday or so.. Jun 27 07:17:25 and eclipse cannot update the ADT Jun 27 07:18:15 Psil0Cybin: your app can do whatever you want, the backend server should just be a blackbox Jun 27 07:18:45 I just cannot update the ADT Jun 27 07:19:05 android studio: waiting for hitting beta channel. Jun 27 07:19:26 Estel, can you define more about this blackbox so i can google it? It would not be a standard HTTP Server? I just want to understand how applications like facebook and snapchat, instagram etc major applications sync data Jun 27 07:19:39 and create user accounts i kinda assumed it was done through something like mysql or sqlite Jun 27 07:19:40 or something Jun 27 07:19:48 Psil0Cybin: I mean, it doesn't matter to the application what the backend is or does Jun 27 07:19:55 Oh! Jun 27 07:20:09 Psil0Cybin: if you're new to Android development, have you looked at parse.com ? Jun 27 07:20:09 so it can communicate in any manor I desire? Jun 27 07:20:10 would someone help me there? Jun 27 07:20:21 no I have not, I need to look at it asap! if you are suggesting it Jun 27 07:21:17 Psil0Cybin: if you want to make an app with a backend really easily and don't want to worry about the PHP/MySQL stuff, then yes Jun 27 07:21:36 Are AAssetManager_openDir and friends thread-safe? Jun 27 07:21:50 tell me guys! can I move on to Java 8 yet or not to program Android? Jun 27 07:21:54 Estrel I am very good with mysql, I dont know about PHP I would need to take alook at what that intails but Parse looks phenominal! Jun 27 07:21:57 thank you so muich Estrel Jun 27 07:22:06 I need to learn more about it, I am assuming it is easy to incorporate Jun 27 07:22:10 superlinux-hp: is /that/ your question? Android doesn't support java8 at all Jun 27 07:22:16 Psil0Cybin: super super easy Jun 27 07:22:18 ok then.. Jun 27 07:22:27 * gdrc can't wait: downloading android studio 0.8 Jun 27 07:23:34 but I need to update the ADT, and the SDK manager is complaining about it. and I need that done from within eclipse. and I ask eclipse to update itself: not updates found. so? what I should do? Jun 27 07:24:19 Estel, thank you so much again! do a lot of people make apps using parse? or is it recommended to create your own backend or is that something done if you for some reason become very very big, which is very rare Jun 27 07:24:45 Estel, I updated to the latest SDK version of API 20 , and the ADT has to be version 23. and it says that the current ADT is 22.3 Jun 27 07:27:02 superlinux-hp: are you trying to update Eclipse or the available packages? Jun 27 07:27:05 Or whatever they're called Jun 27 07:27:28 the ADT is all I need to get me going. Jun 27 07:27:48 Psil0Cybin: that dpends on lots of things! Large companies might want to control their own backend more. But for most solo devs there's nothing better/ Jun 27 07:28:08 you know there is the SDK, and on the other hand the Android Dev. Tools Jun 27 07:28:16 ...(ADT) Jun 27 07:28:20 you might have to to manually update the plugin to match the SDK version Jun 27 07:28:25 Estel, you have answered all my questions! and then some, you rock. Jun 27 07:28:46 it can be a little buggy automatically updating Jun 27 07:29:12 superlinux-hp: does it say there's no plugin update available? Jun 27 07:30:05 Estel, Eclipse says no updates available Jun 27 07:30:17 or n updates found Jun 27 07:30:24 ya, then you have to look in install new software Jun 27 07:30:30 and update the plugin manually Jun 27 07:30:48 also you might have to change the URL from http to https or the reverse Jun 27 07:30:53 something is buggy about it Jun 27 07:31:30 Alternatively if all that fails, you can download the zip from http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/installing-adt.html Jun 27 07:33:09 or instead of ADT, use android studio Jun 27 07:33:45 Adapting a whole new dev env can be complex Jun 27 07:33:53 also, no env is perfect ;) Jun 27 07:34:04 I also downloaded Eclipse Luna (4.4) , and it crashed on my Debian Linux Wheezy Jun 27 07:34:53 no env is perfect but there are vast differences between them Jun 27 07:35:10 yes, you have said that many times today desmin88 :) Jun 27 07:35:55 "the bad thing about programmers is they are lazy, the good thing about programmers is they are lazy." Jun 27 07:37:25 what happens when some unexpected issue arises with android studio? maybe something different from Eclipse? there is a real inertia too tools, and most of all, switching dev environments is not a valid default solution for every little problem. Jun 27 07:40:39 Carbonflux: It's a valid solution if your problem is "I'm still using Eclipse" Jun 27 07:40:45 ^ Jun 27 07:41:12 Yes, it takes time to get used to it, but we're devs, me manage. I switched the whole office, never looked back. Jun 27 07:41:49 heh, fair enough, I admit its tempting Jun 27 07:42:19 eclipse w/ adt is going the way of the dodo, switch now and get a head start Jun 27 07:42:23 I have everything working in Eclipse now, at least in linux, so....lazy ;) Jun 27 07:42:50 They might stop updating ADT for Eclipse once AS is out of beta Jun 27 07:42:56 Try it for new projects then. Also, Eclipse has "Export to Gradle Project" to try out existing projects. Jun 27 07:43:24 this is based on intellij right? Jun 27 07:43:28 yes Jun 27 07:43:42 :) Jun 27 07:44:01 how come intelliJ doesn't highlight the word String in another color? Jun 27 07:44:21 like how int and other variable types Jun 27 07:44:31 I am downloading the ADT plugin manually, and then I will add it as Archive in the install sites. we'll see if it goes well Jun 27 07:44:59 around 10 minutes for me to finish downloading ADT plugin Jun 27 07:45:09 if you dont like default highlighting then change it Jun 27 07:46:49 therue: which other variable types? int is a primitive and String isn't Jun 27 07:53:38 I think android studio highlights string and not String Jun 27 07:56:30 Hello people! It's long i'd like to buy an android tablet, and I find a promotion: Nexus7 2013 for 174€ (wifi+lte+3g) and 32gb Jun 27 07:56:46 what do you think? Do they do the promotion just because google is going to show the new model? Jun 27 07:56:56 Should I buy it anyway because the price is actually very low? Jun 27 07:57:34 wrong channel Jun 27 07:57:43 I'm getting Error:(73, 28) No resource found that matches the given name (at 'value' with value '@integer/google_play_services_version'). Jun 27 07:57:47 would you point me to the correct please? Jun 27 07:57:49 after the upgrade Jun 27 07:57:51 #android Jun 27 07:57:55 ok thanks Jun 27 08:33:50 Hi Jun 27 08:33:53 I need a help Jun 27 08:34:11 Just ask Jun 27 08:34:11 I want to get the gps coodinates and then display it in a map Jun 27 08:34:27 I already wrote to get the coordinates through DDMS Jun 27 08:34:34 but displaying maps? Jun 27 08:34:57 hi, I am noob dev and having problems using android-studio with nexus 5 phone. all problems are host resolution errors but I don't have any fancy network setup Jun 27 08:35:28 niru: have you looked at the Maps documentation? Jun 27 08:35:54 no can u give me the link or is it in Android training tutorial Jun 27 08:35:58 pavelz: do you have 'any' network setup ? Jun 27 08:35:58 niru: https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/android/ Jun 27 08:36:03 also my OS is Ubuntu 14.04 or whatever latest version is. Jun 27 08:37:01 Estel, thanks let me check and update Jun 27 08:37:20 does it mean something else besides having internet connectivity? yes I can update my system do wget et al. Jun 27 08:37:32 bankai_: ^^ Jun 27 08:37:45 what are you trying to resolve? what's your code doing Jun 27 08:38:17 gradle is not working. I can run emulator but when I connect my phone gradle complains that it can't connect to various hosts. Jun 27 08:38:59 so what's the problem, your phone or your computer ? Jun 27 08:40:07 I cannot build because gradle complains it cannot connect to various hosts. so I guess it is the android-studio. Jun 27 08:40:41 i doubt it's AS, it's probably your ubuntu setup Jun 27 08:40:48 unless gradle loads stuff through on the phone, onto the phone through phone's internet. but that does not make sense. Jun 27 08:40:56 no it doesn't do that Jun 27 08:41:13 what hosts is it trying to connect to? have you done basic diag - nslookup, ping etc. ? Jun 27 08:41:34 you behind a proxy ? Jun 27 08:42:38 Does anyone use the standard emulator on OSX? Whenever I start an AVD I get the icon appear in the dock, but no window appears Jun 27 08:42:46 * JuiceSSH has been using Genymotion for too long Jun 27 08:43:25 i do, arm and x86 one works fine... do you have enough RAM? maybe it's bombing out coz of that Jun 27 08:44:31 Estel, isnt there a way for openstreet maps. Jun 27 08:44:37 instead of ggogle maps Jun 27 08:44:40 google Jun 27 08:45:59 bankai_: Plenty of free ram unfortunately Jun 27 08:46:21 how much is plenty? did you give the emulator enough ? Jun 27 08:49:10 bankai_: I have ~15GB free. I've just tried upping the VM heap in the avd settings from the default of 64MB to 512MB and I think that might have helped. Jun 27 08:49:31 only 15? gee you're going to need more than that! hahah :P Jun 27 08:49:50 :) I get a window now, but it's black. Maybe HAXM related. Jun 27 08:51:12 Ok - turning on host gpu option seems to have fixed that Jun 27 08:51:32 bankai_: no behind home router firewall Jun 27 08:53:14 bankai_: so gradle writes that it is unable to download gradle: 0.12 in offline mode there was an error - could not resolve host. how do I go online in studio? is there a switch? Jun 27 08:53:21 niru: sure: https://github.com/osmdroid/osmdroid Jun 27 08:53:42 sorry for noob questions but it seems like it should work and I am only a switch away from it all dancing together. Jun 27 09:01:51 Estel, all android based apps are opensource? Jun 27 09:02:01 Or some may be propritary Jun 27 09:02:14 Most are propietory Jun 27 09:02:22 why I am asking is I can use any of there code for my use and bundle it with something else? Jun 27 09:02:36 ah ok... Jun 27 09:03:04 OSMDroid is a library that you can use, though Jun 27 09:03:28 ok Jun 27 09:05:30 niru: Google has sample code available: http://developer.android.com/samples/index.html Jun 27 09:06:10 Requires Android Studio to run. Is Android Studio the way to go now? Jun 27 09:07:15 improvnerd, I dont have Android Studio Jun 27 09:07:42 niru: You can still browse the source code. Jun 27 09:11:56 for some reason android studio for os x just worked unlike the one for linux Jun 27 09:12:02 How can I send data to a BroadcastReceiver via a IntentFilter? The action field is already used. Jun 27 09:21:31 can anyone help me set up a xmpp connection over bosh? Jun 27 09:21:45 hi how come gradle does not load on linux with android-studio but on os x it works just fine. Jun 27 09:21:48 ? Jun 27 09:23:37 I get the error: Could not download artifact 'com.android.tools.build: gardle: 0.12:gardle.jar' No cached version available for offline mode. Jun 27 09:24:11 what follows I try to find the online mode, to be found nowhere in UI. Jun 27 09:30:32 Hey I have upgraded SDK tools version to 23 now I am not able to use ADT:( Jun 27 09:30:41 its asking me to upgrade ADT also Jun 27 09:30:48 help needed Jun 27 09:30:53 you have to upgrade adt Jun 27 09:30:56 Can I revert back to older sdk Jun 27 09:31:06 is there other way round Jun 27 09:31:19 because ADT download is getting more than 1 hour for me Jun 27 09:31:56 Though I have started the download for ADT for timebeing can I use older SDK. If so how? Jun 27 09:36:21 Hey guys, I have an object which implements comparable and currently compares against a date field. So calling Collection.sort(objectList) will sort the list by that date.. What if I have another datefield I want to compare by and have the option to sort by one or the other. How would I implement this? Jun 27 09:37:49 hi in my app this code: getActionBar().setTitle("sample"); getActionBar().setDisplayHomeAsUpEnabled(true); are ok on Android JellyBean but on my tablet with Android Froyo dont start application... my question is how change title of action bar and add back button on Froyo? Jun 27 09:39:14 Alfreda: use getSupportActionBar() instead of getActionBar() for the support libarry Jun 27 09:40:13 ok i try Jun 27 09:44:52 CocoStorm: Comparator. Jun 27 09:46:19 CocoStorm: You can pass a custom Comparator class to Arrays.sort which will do the comparison instead of the implemented compareTo. Jun 27 09:46:27 CocoStorm: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/Arrays.html#sort(T[],%20int,%20int,%20java.util.Comparator) Jun 27 09:51:54 danijoo: no i have error: The method getSupportActionBar() is undefined for the type Add Add.java Jun 27 09:52:06 because you dont use the support library Jun 27 09:52:25 and actionbar was not present for froyo Jun 27 09:52:27 so you have to Jun 27 09:52:40

Jun 27 09:52:44 in manifest.xml Jun 27 09:52:54 which support library? Jun 27 09:53:18 http://developer.android.com/tools/support-library/features.html Jun 27 09:54:06 thanks flan3002 Jun 27 09:54:06 is there primer available for Dalvik internals? Jun 27 09:54:08 :) Jun 27 09:54:28 If you want to have actionbars in api level 8, you have to include the appcompat library into your project, change all Activities to use the ActionbarActivity and use getSupportActionBar() Jun 27 09:56:22 nutrino: Why? Jun 27 09:56:28 nutrino: Just for fun? Jun 27 09:57:09 yah just to have in-depth understanding of things.. Jun 27 09:57:15 in my project i have appcompat_v7 Jun 27 09:57:50 nutrino: You may want to look at ART instead of Dalvik. Dalvik is going to be phased out in the future. :) Jun 27 09:57:56 your activities have to extends ActionbarActivity instyread of Activity Jun 27 09:57:58 It's possible to animate from alpha 0 to 1 (invisible to visible), but is it also possible to animate from gone to visible? Jun 27 09:58:04 * flan3002 would rather look at ART than DVM. Jun 27 09:58:04 or FragmentActivity maybe Jun 27 09:58:55 Hi, I'm looking for best practices on testing Google Play subscriptions, specifically trail subscriptions. As there is no sandbox mode for these, how do I go about it? I am integrating the purchases with our backend. Jun 27 09:59:08 danijoo: http://postimg.org/image/3s22nge7b/afcc5673/ Jun 27 09:59:25 trial, not trail. Jun 27 09:59:39 hmm right but having understanding of DVM wouldn't hurt.. Jun 27 09:59:42 your uses-sdk is not an issue Alfreda Jun 27 09:59:59 read the guides on supporting old devices from google Jun 27 10:00:00 nutrino: Sure not. :) Jun 27 10:00:32 danijoo: if in my add.xml i do: public final class Add extends ActionbarActivity { Jun 27 10:00:49 i dont think you have that in an xml :p Jun 27 10:00:58 iTunes has a sandbox mode with subscriptions that renew every 5 minutes, but it seems Google Play has ---- nothing? Jun 27 10:01:01 ,java sorry Jun 27 10:01:13 i have error Jun 27 10:01:36 ActionbarActivity cannot be resolved to a type Add.java Jun 27 10:02:00 Alfreda: http://developer.android.com/tools/support-library/index.html Jun 27 10:02:26 heinrisch: so? Jun 27 10:02:39 thats how you add the support library and what it is Jun 27 10:02:41 this is my first work with android :P Jun 27 10:02:49 Alfreda: read it Jun 27 10:03:08 youve got that posted the second time now. read the docs, understand them, and then ask again Jun 27 10:03:32 but in this document i view only the library Jun 27 10:03:35 with changelog Jun 27 10:03:45 http://developer.android.com/tools/support-library/setup.html Jun 27 10:03:55 there is a like right there, on how to setup it... Jun 27 10:04:02 ahh Jun 27 10:04:06 there is a sidebar containing a site about how to setup support library and when to use it Jun 27 10:04:06 i must downlload it? Jun 27 10:04:13 read Jun 27 10:04:15 with coding examples Jun 27 10:04:39 even tells you how to do it in eclipse Jun 27 10:05:21 i try Jun 27 10:05:26 thks Jun 27 10:06:47 Hello, what would be best way to impliment font size for various screen sizes. Should I use values for different "Density" or "Size" ? Jun 27 10:06:50 heinrisch: i have already installed Android Support Library in SDK Jun 27 10:07:09 Alfreda: then keep reading Jun 27 10:07:14 there are more steps Jun 27 10:07:17 ok Jun 27 10:07:44 vegetablesalad19: use sp when specifying the sice Jun 27 10:08:06 * danijoo feels like a babysitter Jun 27 10:08:22 vegetablesalad19: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2025282/difference-between-px-dp-dip-and-sp-in-android Jun 27 10:08:53 danijoo: you need to teach the baby how to fish, instead of feeding it :) Jun 27 10:10:11 heinrisch, yes I am using sp, but font is a lot smaller on my nexus 4 then on samsung s3 mini. Just using sp doesn't help. I need different values for screen size or density Jun 27 10:10:34 heinrisch: yeah but i think if it wants to learn fishing, it should at least have looked up on its own what a fishing rod is :p Jun 27 10:11:15 danijoo: fishing rod? start at explaining what a fish is ;) Jun 27 10:11:25 Going back to watch the IO videos. The incredible non-answers are fun :D Jun 27 10:11:42 can i have a shape drawable with a border that only has 3 edges? i want the left edge to not be part of the stroke Jun 27 10:11:54 vegetablesalad19: that sounds stage... are both devices set to normal font size? Jun 27 10:12:58 heinrisch, hmm not sure what you mean by "set to normal font size". In device settings ? Jun 27 10:13:06 both are on default factory settings Jun 27 10:13:14 vegetablesalad19: yes, in devices settings. Jun 27 10:13:51 I defaulted to factory settings few days ago, so I don't think so Jun 27 10:13:54 heinrisch: i must do this? Adding libraries without resources To add a Support Library without resources to your application project: Using Eclipse Jun 27 10:13:56 vegetablesalad19: I have never had the problem of needing to specify more than sp Jun 27 10:14:17 im off getting my self a nex5 and check out this developer build now. :) yay Jun 27 10:15:28 heinrisch: but i have already in libs android-support-v4.jar Jun 27 10:16:03 Alfreda: if you need things that require resources or not, it tells you what that means in the paragraph above Jun 27 10:16:15 no i dont view resource! Jun 27 10:16:28 the why are you asking about that..? Jun 27 10:16:28 i want only change name of an activity bar Jun 27 10:16:55 Alfreda: the last step is adding the jar to your build path Jun 27 10:16:58 Alfreda: Android API level 8 DOES NOT HAVE an actionbar Jun 27 10:16:59 have you done that? Jun 27 10:17:08 if you want to change it, you have to include it with support library Jun 27 10:17:11 thats what v7 is for. Jun 27 10:17:50 you mean i must import in /libs android-support-v7.jar ? Jun 27 10:18:02 yes Jun 27 10:18:09 and this file where is???? Jun 27 10:18:20 are you serious? Jun 27 10:18:55 you have to download it. from the links provided to you when we said to read it Jun 27 10:19:10 or include it via maven Jun 27 10:19:12 gradle Jun 27 10:19:14 whatever Jun 27 10:19:44 Alfreda: you have the link, you have all the information you need. You can't expect us to do the work for you. Jun 27 10:20:22 In a TableLayout I have two columns with weight = 1. If I only have one element in a row, how can I make it the same width as when there are two elements? I tried layout_width = 50dp, but it is wider than the weight = 1 elements. Jun 27 10:21:04 barq: you can add a dummy Framelayout with weight 1 consuming the other space Jun 27 10:21:29 I thought of that, doesn't sound like a very elegant solution, though.# Jun 27 10:22:09 barq: im not sure if this works but you can try to set android:layout_span="1" in the xml Jun 27 10:22:30 to make sure the layout only uses one comlumn and not all available Jun 27 10:23:00 danijoo: sorry but i dont find this link for v7.jar Jun 27 10:23:25 I'm only using rows at the moment, no columns, just inserting one or two items into a row. Jun 27 10:23:38 heinrisch: sorry Jun 27 10:23:55 Alfreda: im sorry i dont help you if you dont read the links completely Jun 27 10:24:35 i have read all! Jun 27 10:26:29 Adding libraries without resources Jun 27 10:26:34 Make sure you have downloaded the Android Support Library using the SDK Manager. Jun 27 10:26:40 danijoo: ahh i thinks that i have undstand Jun 27 10:26:43 Copy the JAR file from your Android SDK installation directory (e.g., /extras/android/support/v4/android-support-v4.jar) into your application's project libs/ directory. Jun 27 10:26:46 okok Jun 27 10:26:52 thats what it says Jun 27 10:26:57 :) sorry Jun 27 10:27:04 this is my first app on android :D Jun 27 10:27:34 yeah but you cant expect others to explain you everything step by step. you have to find stuff out on your own. :) Jun 27 10:27:50 first project is always more looking up, reading and trying than anythig else ;) Jun 27 10:28:46 Alfreda: If this is your first app, drop anything below API level 15. Jun 27 10:29:07 Do _not_ even begin developing for Froyo, it's basically non-existent at this point. Jun 27 10:29:21 are you able to use CardView? Jun 27 10:29:21 Agreed, compatibility can be awful and annoying. Don't do it if you don't have to. :) Jun 27 10:30:05 And with the upcoming L release, you already have Holo and Material to care about, dedicate your time to this instead of supporting API <15. Jun 27 10:30:35 kakazza, flan3002 i think the biggest problem is that all guides and tutorial you find for learning android are so outdated that they suggest to set minSDK to 8 Jun 27 10:31:03 kakazza: Material runs only on API 20+ Jun 27 10:31:06 You shouldn't use these guides because they won't make use of the new APIs either. Jun 27 10:31:17 then i have imported new project android-support-v7-appcompat but i have this error in console: [2014-06-27 12:27:46 - android-support-v7-appcompat] Unable to resolve target 'android-16' Jun 27 10:31:29 Use the official guides, create a project with Android Studio (which defaults to API 15). Jun 27 10:31:48 Alfreda: you need to download android-16 from the sdk manager Jun 27 10:31:52 gdrc: And you want API 20+ to have Material and 15-19 Holo. Jun 27 10:31:53 kakazza: the official guides are aweful to actually learn how to code in android Jun 27 10:32:11 kakazza: That's a huge problem. I recently got back to developing some Android stuff, after having last worked on pre-API15. It's frustrating as hell not knowing what actually applies and if documentation actually referrs to best-practices. Jun 27 10:32:15 Alfreda: What is your targetSdkVersion? Jun 27 10:32:17 kakazza: I would not start developing for Android Lol as a beginner :) Jun 27 10:32:23 they are ok if you have experience and want to look up how to to something new, but if you have no idea about android, its totally crap Jun 27 10:32:24 16 jellyBean Jun 27 10:32:32 Set it to 19 KitKat Jun 27 10:32:44 kakazza: oh yes Jun 27 10:32:46 i would go with 15 Jun 27 10:32:47 depends on which phone he has Jun 27 10:32:59 danijoo: minSdkVersion 15, targetSdkVersion 19 Jun 27 10:33:05 yep Jun 27 10:34:08 heinrisch: Sure, all I'm saying is that she (and no one else for that matter) should not be spending time on supporting Froyo or even Gingerbread. Jun 27 10:34:33 She's a beginner, by the time she has something she wants to release, API <15 will be around 10% probably. Jun 27 10:34:50 For those extra 5 users! Jun 27 10:34:59 What api version is cupcake? Jun 27 10:35:03 kakazza: I think it depends, we still have 12% of our users on those versions. But yes, as a beginner, start learning android for something more modern Jun 27 10:35:10 heinrisch: i have a phone with jellybean Jun 27 10:35:20 heinrisch: 12% is less than the market percentage :) Jun 27 10:35:22 and a phone with froyo and a tablet with gingerbird :D Jun 27 10:35:23 Ah. API level 3 is where it's at. Jun 27 10:35:23 loke: 3 Jun 27 10:35:33 Why needs anything newer Jun 27 10:35:38 s/Why/Who/ Jun 27 10:35:55 Any app can be made with TextView, ImageView, ListView and a couple of intents! Jun 27 10:36:00 heinrisch: i'm installing android v16 Jun 27 10:36:07 Estel: Not even that. All you need a is a canvas Jun 27 10:36:30 Get a GLES-view (version 1, of course) and you're all set Jun 27 10:36:36 hah Jun 27 10:36:51 Alfreda: if you want to start learning android, set target and min sdk to your version Jun 27 10:37:04 i have already set Jun 27 10:37:07 guys i'm trying to set up a boshconnection but after i try to .connect() it throws an exception saying the host is null Jun 27 10:37:08 in manifest.xml Jun 27 10:37:11 kakazza: yes, but its too much to drop support for Jun 27 10:37:23 Alfreda: then you can just use getActionBar Jun 27 10:37:27 any ideas Jun 27 10:37:42 android:minSdkVersion="8" Jun 27 10:37:42 android:targetSdkVersion="16" Jun 27 10:37:51 jvrodrigues: code or it didn't happen :) Jun 27 10:37:57 android:minSdkVersion="16" Jun 27 10:38:09 infact if i put min 11 and target 16 it work Jun 27 10:38:18 but on my tablet with froyo no Jun 27 10:38:41 Forget Froyo Jun 27 10:38:45 Seriously Jun 27 10:38:58 SERIOUSLY MAN! Jun 27 10:39:02 froyo on tablet? :0 Jun 27 10:39:06 Alfreda: froyo is too old, you need honeycomb or newer, unless you use the compatibility library Jun 27 10:39:07 not a big market Jun 27 10:39:22 kakazza: maybe he wants to create the app for him/her-self Jun 27 10:39:32 itself Jun 27 10:39:32 so on froyo i cant change name of ActionBar ? Jun 27 10:39:34 :| Jun 27 10:39:48 Alfreda: you can, but you need to use the support library Jun 27 10:39:54 eh Jun 27 10:39:55 ok Jun 27 10:40:06 i'm downloading Android 16 Jun 27 10:40:09