**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 02 03:00:00 2014 Jul 02 03:18:43 can you pastebin your manifest Jul 02 03:33:19 * g00s is tempted to buy "Everything Is Bullshit" Jul 02 03:35:39 bankai_au read anything good lately ? Jul 02 03:35:49 too busy, man :( Jul 02 03:36:41 Bill Gates really likes Vaclav Smil's books Jul 02 03:36:48 * g00s investigates Jul 02 03:48:31 i think it might of been cause of intent server with START_STICKY in the onstartcommand Jul 02 03:55:28 anyone know how android's test runner works? Jul 02 03:57:22 hey look what i found canadiancow http://www.amazon.com/Cows-Save-Planet-Improbable-Restoring-ebook/dp/B00CMR0N2E Jul 02 05:08:31 Is Git opensource? Jul 02 05:08:42 yes Jul 02 05:08:46 I want to have a repository to manage my daily task Jul 02 05:09:08 GPL v2 Jul 02 05:09:11 can you suggest me which will be good,free and easy to use version control system Jul 02 05:09:21 for ADT Jul 02 05:09:23 well... I use git Jul 02 05:09:24 umm ... Jul 02 05:09:31 Leeds, thanks Jul 02 05:09:48 Leeds, can you suggest me a step-by -step tutorial on git with ADT Jul 02 05:09:57 no, I cannot Jul 02 05:10:40 I just use it at the command-line, like a real coder Jul 02 05:11:17 also, I never really learned how to use it properly, just found a basic set of 3 or 4 commands which seem to work - like a really lazy coder :) Jul 02 05:11:38 Leeds, ok can u give me the command options Jul 02 05:11:42 "code re-use" Jul 02 05:11:45 haha wow Jul 02 05:11:48 oh bloody hell ... Jul 02 05:11:49 As I am also a linux person I can console Jul 02 05:12:09 git commit -a -m "COMMENT HERE" && git push Jul 02 05:12:18 git pull && sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl graceful Jul 02 05:12:44 generally, there's no need to restart the webserver if I've made changes to Android code... Jul 02 05:12:54 if you're a linux person you can read man pages in "console" (p.s it's called a terminal) ... the git man pages are 'very' good Jul 02 05:13:14 bankai_au, Leeds thanks Jul 02 05:13:23 bankai_au: I assume niru was offering a shoulder to cry on Jul 02 05:13:40 read this http://git-scm.com/book Jul 02 05:25:45 niru: git init, git status -u, git checkout -b branchname, git add filename, git add . (adds all), git commit -m "message", git -a -m (messages plus deletes), git push/pull origin localbranch Jul 02 05:26:56 lasserix, ok I am trying it now Jul 02 05:27:34 if you use windows you can install cygwin as shell emulator Jul 02 05:27:50 much eaiser to use git from command line, bypass plugins for doing it all (ie egit for eclipse, etc) Jul 02 05:32:05 also you'll want to look online for a template for gitignore file to not push program settings (usually, if you are using eclipse, for instance) Jul 02 05:32:28 you can generate build.xml file in eclipse from android tools, i believe, and then import the project using that build file if you ever need to set up another work enviroment Jul 02 05:44:56 tortoisegit is what i use if i git on winders Jul 02 05:45:20 ^^ Jul 02 05:45:32 although these days i use straight git from the shell Jul 02 05:45:33 works great Jul 02 05:45:40 it is much nicer from command line Jul 02 05:45:45 i'm even using the bash git shell instead of the old zsh.exe i had Jul 02 05:46:05 the ther night i found that when i tried to copy a mixed case file to an existing file of that name, zsh lowercased it Jul 02 05:46:41 it's really amazing how much stuff is ported directly across these days Jul 02 05:47:13 lasserix: give the git & git bash a try Jul 02 05:47:16 no need for cygwin layer Jul 02 05:47:39 ruby, chef...it all runs just like on unix, these days Jul 02 05:47:58 the only snag i ran into is our build uses one shell script...and shell still cares about line endings Jul 02 05:48:11 so when bash converted to windows-style endings it broke the script Jul 02 05:57:38 myke i use cygwin for lots of stuff ;p Jul 02 06:26:07 HttpResponse response = httpclient.execute(httpost); Android studio can't resolve httpclient. Jul 02 06:27:24 donniezazen: did you import that? Jul 02 06:27:52 http://developer.android.com/reference/org/apache/http/impl/client/DefaultHttpClient.html Jul 02 06:31:28 I am trying to find the location of the kernel for this device but coming up with nothing http://paste.ee/p/DDJIs Jul 02 06:42:07 tunage wrong channel, try #android-root Jul 02 06:42:29 g00s: you left yesterday mid discussion Jul 02 06:42:43 thepoosh hey, i probably went to bed Jul 02 06:42:52 dammit! Jul 02 06:43:19 why did you go to sleep at 11:00? Jul 02 06:43:28 its 2:43 am here :) Jul 02 06:43:38 actually, time to go to bed again XD Jul 02 06:43:48 9:43 Jul 02 06:43:50 AM Jul 02 06:44:07 cut it out with your australian ways! Jul 02 06:45:58 he's not aussie Jul 02 06:47:49 it's afternoon time in Oz Jul 02 06:48:04 protests in HK, how exciting ! Jul 02 06:48:13 god damn it, FF crashed again Jul 02 06:49:00 massive protests, yes Jul 02 06:50:16 g00s: where the hell are you from?!?! Jul 02 06:50:33 i expect more of that , everywhere, as time goes on Jul 02 06:50:34 thepoosh not from this planet ... Jul 02 06:50:53 so the time of night is meaningless Jul 02 06:51:05 of course, when in orbit ... Jul 02 06:51:46 i'd like to read this story about google http://www.fastcodesign.com/3032463/what-is-google Jul 02 06:51:53 but its going to give me a seizure Jul 02 06:51:56 g00s: stop openning so may tabs Jul 02 06:52:15 capella firefox crashes often when there isn't enough ram, and you start it Jul 02 06:52:25 lol Jul 02 06:52:31 in this case, chrome was eating all of my box's memory and i forgot to shut it down Jul 02 06:53:03 capella crash reported manages to pop up though :) Jul 02 06:53:08 *reporter Jul 02 06:54:15 mmm ... interesting ... Are you on the general release version? 30? Jul 02 06:54:16 lol - crash reporter - I was trolling some crash comments the other day, a good % of the says things like "I was trying to read p0rn dammit!", "I was looking for a poon hookup in facebook", etc XD Jul 02 06:54:16 guys, Rob Ford is the MAN!!! Jul 02 06:54:35 i forgot why i started using chrome again Jul 02 06:54:38 oh yeah! my FF is taking like 30% cpu and i have no idea what tab it is Jul 02 06:54:47 oh that still Jul 02 06:55:01 so i gave up using it for now Jul 02 06:55:17 electrolysis project is supposed to fix that Jul 02 06:55:17 but … when i go looking for books on amazon, i get into trouble with chrome Jul 02 06:55:28 because i open like 40 tabs Jul 02 06:55:37 and thats like, 1exabyte for chrome Jul 02 06:59:33 ah, well, I don't do a lot of staight desktop work so I lose track of the status there ... mostly stick to Fennec/Mobile ... working with the Sync code currently Jul 02 07:18:08 join android Jul 02 07:20:06 can anybody help me in screen cast Jul 02 07:25:03 gesl whats up? Jul 02 07:25:51 gesl if you have android kitkat you can do it from adb Jul 02 07:27:40 g00s: Google is "a way of life"? ;p Jul 02 07:28:14 i read the article quickly, and actually avoided seizure - its a little meh Jul 02 07:28:52 i'm not overly impressed by any of this (Material) crap, honestly. its what Alan Cooper called , in "About Face" Mechanical age metaphor Jul 02 07:29:09 and how this will change my life, when no googl eservice has, is beyond me ;) Jul 02 07:29:23 as soon as 3d food printers become a reality, google will mass produce them, ultimatly earning enough money to simply give every human being a small stipend and thereby replace the value of capital with a new valuation virtualization scheme Jul 02 07:29:46 O.o Jul 02 07:29:53 well iphone is catching up with android like in live wallpapers widgets etc Jul 02 07:30:03 and i think android is doing the same in terms of sleek/ergonomic Jul 02 07:30:28 material is really just android catching up with the aesthetic of iphone (since the beginning, more or less) Jul 02 07:30:47 designers seem to like it Jul 02 07:30:51 it look sOK Jul 02 07:30:55 some of the improvements are good, like the shadowing and visual indications of touch interface Jul 02 07:31:04 but, i think its being blown out of proportion :) Jul 02 07:31:08 because they help the ui be more natural for a user Jul 02 07:31:37 maybe they're just distracting us from the fact they are taking over the future of home and living space with echo / nest / dropcam achquistions ;p Jul 02 07:32:09 but why have shadow … why have depth? its a piece of glass Jul 02 07:32:22 i dont know why they don't just drop wireless lan routers every other city block in every major us city Jul 02 07:32:23 there is no depth, its just smoke and mirrors :) Jul 02 07:32:34 the depth helps the eye organize Jul 02 07:32:57 even subconciousily, so it makes it easier for a user to intuitively interface with the phone Jul 02 07:33:16 but there is no depth Jul 02 07:33:20 which is kind of an "unnatural" thing in the precedent of "material" things Jul 02 07:33:35 there is the illusion of depth for the eye to be able to organize the contents Jul 02 07:33:45 my eye doesn't seem fooled Jul 02 07:33:53 i think subconciosily you could prove Jul 02 07:34:11 that the illusion of depth helps the cicade movement of the eye register forms more closely and with better acuity Jul 02 07:34:24 thepoosh: I have org.apache.http.client.methods.HttpGet; and org.apache.http.HttpResponse; Android Studio isn't showning any imports. Jul 02 07:34:36 *saccade Jul 02 07:34:46 that sounds wrong Jul 02 07:34:54 what HttpClient are you using? Jul 02 07:35:34 it's all about using the fact the human brain likes to group things, to help the eye to do a better job, by distinguishing ui elements with shadows ;p Jul 02 07:36:16 lasserix dialog boxes had shadows in windows 95 Jul 02 07:36:25 its 2014 Jul 02 07:36:30 BEST> WINDOWS> EVER!!! Jul 02 07:36:30 but you have a mouse on a desktop Jul 02 07:37:00 i would agree to this shadow stuff, if this was a 3D UI Jul 02 07:37:09 put its still a fucking piece of glass Jul 02 07:37:16 it's because a screen's content is usually compact to begin with Jul 02 07:37:55 thepoosh: Basically implementing this http://stackoverflow.com/a/6099543/3034693 Jul 02 07:38:06 i'll think a little more about it after i get done reading some more recent HCI Jul 02 07:38:32 donniezazen: does this mean you imported DeafultHttpClient? Jul 02 07:40:05 hello devs Jul 02 07:40:29 Hi, how i do for insert all filename in a folder (on a server www.mysite.it/photo/ ) in an array o StringList ? Jul 02 07:40:43 I have a Bitmap object in memory (may be large) and I want to load it in a imageview that is very small Jul 02 07:40:57 How do I do that without causing OOM Jul 02 07:41:02 g00s: if it's just a piece of glass, then a canvas is just a piece of paper, and the revolutionary use of perspective in paintings circa the reniassance in europe is totally bunk ;p Jul 02 07:41:33 lasserix but there is a trend in painting Jul 02 07:41:39 it went from realism to abstract Jul 02 07:41:53 so i agree :D Jul 02 07:41:55 The Bitmap object is stored as a field of activity Jul 02 07:42:12 emotionull: scaleinbounds Jul 02 07:42:20 good how to use scaleinbounds bitmap factory Jul 02 07:42:44 basically you'll subsample the very large image so you only consume as much memory as resolution as you need for your smaller image view Jul 02 07:42:45 But Bitmap factory is for loading images from some resourec Jul 02 07:42:54 google it Jul 02 07:42:58 you're mistaken Jul 02 07:43:03 I ok Jul 02 07:43:09 let me check Jul 02 07:43:20 i believe you can even do it on a bytestream or whatever Jul 02 07:43:54 oops Jul 02 07:43:57 *inSampleSize Jul 02 07:44:13 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3331527/android-resize-a-large-bitmap-file-to-scaled-output-file Jul 02 07:44:45 saw the answer.. Jul 02 07:44:59 it is for Bitmap stored as a File Jul 02 07:45:12 as opposed to... Jul 02 07:45:18 btw..what does createScaledBitmap() do? Jul 02 07:45:25 something beamed from the user's forehead? Jul 02 07:45:30 Is that what I am looking for? Jul 02 07:45:33 no Jul 02 07:45:40 inSampleSize Jul 02 07:45:46 inSampleSize inSampleSize Jul 02 07:46:05 look at blubs answer Jul 02 07:47:30 But there is no inputImageFile Jul 02 07:47:46 in my case Jul 02 07:48:05 what is your case? Jul 02 07:48:59 I have a Bitmap object (field) in my activity which can be large...and I want to display it in a small image view first Jul 02 07:49:19 and later send to server and store locally on an event Jul 02 07:49:20 oh g00s didn't see the actual premise of that article, ouch i see what you mean Jul 02 07:49:30 where does the large bitmap data come from? Jul 02 07:49:46 you making a panaromic picture taker or something? Jul 02 07:50:01 from gallery, but I am editting and cropping it Jul 02 07:50:35 should I save it on memory first? Jul 02 07:51:20 from gallery = from file Jul 02 07:51:35 are you editing at the original resolution?: Jul 02 07:51:43 if so you probably want to use something like Jul 02 07:51:47 yup...but I hv intermeditae activity to crop and edit it Jul 02 07:52:39 your question is how can i load a 100 megabyte image so a user can edit it without getting an OOM? Jul 02 07:52:58 or how can I create a scaled image of a 100 mb image so the user can preview it without getting an OOM Jul 02 07:53:27 i already answered the second question Jul 02 07:53:32 look at bulbs answer in that post Jul 02 07:53:39 lol...no..no one can have 100mb of image...maybe 5 Jul 02 07:53:42 the URI is the pointet to your file Jul 02 07:53:53 you can easily have 100 mb of an image Jul 02 07:54:16 you should be able to get 5mb into memory if that's more or less the only big thing in memory Jul 02 07:54:28 apps typically get like 20-30-40 mb on phones these days? Jul 02 07:55:48 thepoosh: importing org.apache.http.impl.client.DefaultHttpClient didn't help. Jul 02 07:56:26 hmm...ok..so I ll crop and store it in a tmp in the intermediate activity, then load the thumbnail of it using inSampleSize in my activity, then on the event, move the file to permanent storage and send it to server Jul 02 07:56:50 Hi, how i do for insert all filename in a folder (on a server www.mysite.it/photo/ ) in an array o StringList ? Jul 02 07:57:44 emotionall sounds good Jul 02 07:57:46 you can also use Jul 02 07:58:14 lasserix: you can help me? Jul 02 07:58:44 btw when does stuff under /tmp get deleted Jul 02 07:59:14 emotionull there is some object in the android sdk api that allows you to grab a subregion of a very large image file, so forstance you could enable a user edit at orginal resolution by grabbing the subregoin that currently is viewable (fills the viewport which is the camera's screen) Jul 02 07:59:14 thepoosh: I don't see httpclient all in small case DefaultHttpClient or HttpResponse Jul 02 07:59:27 emotionull: dunno google it ;p Jul 02 08:00:07 Alfreda: you have to rephrase your question Jul 02 08:00:21 How i do for insert all filename in a folder (on a server www.mysite.it/photo/ ) in an array o StringList ? Jul 02 08:00:21 you are asking many things, not sure what you really need help with Jul 02 08:00:31 you have to rephrase your question Jul 02 08:00:39 you are asking many things, not sure what you really need help with Jul 02 08:00:40 filename string Jul 02 08:00:49 i have a site Jul 02 08:00:53 www.mysite.it Jul 02 08:01:07 with a folder photo and there are many photo Jul 02 08:01:13 you want to scrape all the filenames or you have a server running that will handle a restful request? Jul 02 08:01:28 now i want insert in a StringList array all name o file present in this folder Jul 02 08:01:32 you undstand me? Jul 02 08:01:47 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14018418/how-to-access-web-directory-file-list-in-android Jul 02 08:01:55 https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=android+how+can+i+get+all+files+in+a+web+directory Jul 02 08:02:06 as to the second part you'll have to maybe try asking in #java Jul 02 08:02:38 i try Jul 02 08:03:12 but i am guessing you'll have like a node in jsoup that you'll iterate over so it'll be like while (fileListNode.hasNext()) { mystringryarraylist.add(fileListNode.next().toString()) } Jul 02 08:03:25 lasserix: I don't think I ll have to use /tmp..I found more simple solution for my case Jul 02 08:07:42 oh what's that? Jul 02 08:08:45 g00s this article reads like a charles strauss book! But it's also sheer wishful thinking of what our physical world could do if its rules could be cheated. Paper can't split itself and recombine, after all. Jul 02 08:11:39 even if what he is proposing is more or less true, real problem is app developers can't make enough developing new trends because the prime target appeal of the market place ecoystem is farting, flappy birds and such Jul 02 08:12:54 what mean this command? for (Element link : links) Jul 02 08:13:06 iterate over each link in links Jul 02 08:13:12 okok Jul 02 08:13:16 *each element (calling it link) Jul 02 08:13:17 like in C++ Jul 02 08:37:39 I have fragment A and fragment B. Both fragments contain a block of UI elements, which are identical. What would be the best practice for reusing the UI and the functionality behind it? Jul 02 08:40:18 encapsulate the block of ui elements as a self contained view group you can inflate in either fragment Jul 02 08:46:27 Hi guys, how would you go about implementing parcelable on your model objects in a plain java projects library? Options are write decorator classes, or maybe import the parcelable interface into the plain java project? Jul 02 08:52:38 ClockworkAnt, you can add Android.jar stub as a dependency and use all APIs Jul 02 08:52:45 of course, that library will not work outside Android Jul 02 08:53:29 ClockworkAnt: the idea of using a connector, like a decorate but more generic is probably a good idea Jul 02 08:54:53 thats very common for the same kind of thing in graphics: there are lots of formats for holding mesh information, but it all boils down to arrays of ordered floats, so many importer / exporters are written Jul 02 08:55:46 I have a webview, and I have implemented my own WebViewClient. I have a HTML page, which links to .doc files. These links are completely ignored, regardless of what my shouldOverrideUrlLoading() returns. I want to either download or start another app when the user clicks these links - I don't want to just ignore them and fail silently. Other links, to other HTML pages, works correctly as expected. What am i supposed to do to handl Jul 02 09:01:13 liefer_: You have to register an activity that can respond to intents getting .doc files Jul 02 09:01:28 lasserix: can you provide a bit more detail on what you mean, what would be the difference between decorate and a connector. Is connector a recognised pattern or more like a description of the class's responsibilities. Jul 02 09:02:08 i think its a more general computer science term Jul 02 09:02:44 ahh okie lasserix, thanks, I'll put some thought into it Jul 02 09:02:46 but i believe it entails the responsibility of converting data between interfaces Jul 02 09:03:03 for instance, a parcealbe is just a map of primitives or what have you, Jul 02 09:03:30 so you can always take an object, even use reflection, iterate over it's primitivies, dump them into a bytestream, readout of that bytestream a parcel Jul 02 09:03:35 lasserix: A Parcelable can be more than that Jul 02 09:03:42 oh Jul 02 09:03:53 loke: So in my shouldOverrideUrlLoading() i need to manually do a download intent? I see. Was assuming this was already the default behavior, thank you Jul 02 09:03:56 oh i only saw primitive types Jul 02 09:04:07 lasserix: You can parcel anything you want Jul 02 09:04:23 but isn't it broken down into the underlying basic types? Jul 02 09:04:34 the issue comes in when you have objects in your objects and they need to implement parcelable Jul 02 09:04:38 i remember from remote services, that was the just of aidling Jul 02 09:04:48 ahh Jul 02 09:05:00 but I guess you don't need to make the sub objects parcelable if your top level handles all the parcelable serialisation Jul 02 09:05:15 lasserix: No. you can implement your own code to encode/decode the objects Jul 02 09:06:02 lasserix: It's basciallly just a serialisation mechanism Jul 02 09:06:03 loke: does the underlying parcel code use reflection to instance your parceled objects ? Jul 02 09:06:46 lasserix: No. The idea is that that shouldn't be needed since reflection used to be terribly slow on Android Jul 02 09:07:08 These days it's better, so you could always be lazy and just use java.lang.Serializable Jul 02 09:07:40 hmm woo that parcel class is happenning ;p Jul 02 09:07:43 sorry. java.io.Serializable Jul 02 09:07:52 ClockworkAnt: ^^ Jul 02 09:11:45 since there are no roms for the Lenovo IdeaTab a1000, is it in any way possible to get cyanogenmod on it. are there any other roms that are compatible with that device? Jul 02 09:12:13 DanielHolst: Wrong room. Go to android-root or whichever it was. Jul 02 09:17:41 Does anyone know if the SearchView widget is something actually used often? Jul 02 09:18:50 hey there, in an activity im creating multiple lists, a click on an item will create a new list. is there a way to let the user use the back button to get to previous list without using fragments? Jul 02 09:21:21 alt0r: yes Jul 02 09:22:25 lasserix: mind giving me a hint / keyword / link? :) Jul 02 09:23:21 alt0r: if you can be more specific in what you are asking Jul 02 09:24:31 does creating a new list take up the entire view? Jul 02 09:24:53 Just jump to a new activity instead of replacing the content of the view Jul 02 09:25:21 yeah, view only contains list Jul 02 09:28:14 loke: ill give it a try, thx Jul 02 09:28:15 loke do you use fragments at all? Jul 02 09:28:29 lasserix: Not much Jul 02 09:29:02 I'm using it in my latest project, but most of the UI design isn't done so I'm not sure how it'll be used eventually Jul 02 09:29:14 loke i never understood it really prior to fragments, but pre-fragments how do you know when to create a new activity in a family of activites? Jul 02 09:29:26 right now I simply have 1 fragment:1 Activity Jul 02 09:29:48 But doing it that way is easier in case I want to put more than one fragment on the screen at a time Jul 02 09:29:52 Hey, I use reflection to invoke a method which uses some native methods. It crashes with an java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError Jul 02 09:30:15 loke: yeah for multipane views and stuff :) Jul 02 09:30:19 ansgarm: Did you include the native so file? Did you do System.loadLibrary on it? Jul 02 09:30:34 lasserix: Yeah. We'll see if I get there. I really dislike UI programming :-) Jul 02 09:31:16 loke: I did load System.load("system/lib/hw/lights.hammerhead.so"); which is where the native code *should be*. Jul 02 09:31:48 ansgarm: native code for what? Jul 02 09:32:13 For turning on/off LEDs of the device Jul 02 09:32:42 loke: I'm using the LightsService via reflection Jul 02 09:32:44 I had no idea there was a system library you could load like that. Jul 02 09:33:10 and the LightsService uses that native code Jul 02 09:34:04 I'm pretty sure there is a "proper" way to access that service Jul 02 09:34:50 loke: Do you know a way to find out in which lib a given *.cpp file ends up? I guess I have to dig through AOSP code.. Jul 02 09:35:11 ansgarm: From the Android source distribution you mean? Jul 02 09:35:17 Just use "nm" and look for the symbol Jul 02 09:35:28 loke: yep, that android code Jul 02 09:35:47 loke: that Service is private.. :) Jul 02 09:36:04 ansgarm: Well, that should be a good hint that you'renot supposed to use it Jul 02 09:36:13 Is there a way to keep old fragment while using replace on FragmentManager? Jul 02 09:36:35 loke: it's a hack and not to be used in a regular app. so I'm aware of that Jul 02 09:37:24 loke: what kind of tool is nm? Jul 02 09:39:08 ansgarm: it's in the ndk: arm-linux-androideabi-nm Jul 02 09:39:16 ansgarm: Displays the symbols in an object file Jul 02 09:39:32 ah thank you! Jul 02 09:45:57 loke: It was loadLibrary("android_servers"); Now I'm getting a SecurityException :D So that's where it ends for now :) Thank you for your help! Jul 02 09:46:17 I have to admit that I have done some fishy stuff too... Jul 02 09:47:52 Look at this thing: https://github.com/lokedhs/android-gnu-apl/blob/master/client/src/com/dhsdevelopments/aplandroid/input2/LatinKeyboardView.java#L36 Jul 02 09:48:18 Only way I could change the font used in a KeyboardView Jul 02 09:49:12 Sometimes you have to break the boundaries Jul 02 09:49:49 In my case, it will still work even if the hack fails. You'd get the wrong font though, which means missing symbols on the keyboard. But it won't crash Jul 02 09:50:10 (which is why I simply log the exceptions and continue) Jul 02 09:51:28 yep, sounds good Jul 02 10:05:40 hi Jul 02 10:06:05 does ContentResolver.requestSync work in only one way (from server to client)? Jul 02 10:06:43 bcos when I save a form inside android and I perform a sync local db is reset to server db Jul 02 10:07:06 although I have supportUploading inside my sync xml file Jul 02 10:10:47 I'm trying to animate a regular imageview using rotate animaton from there http://blog.stylingandroid.com/archives/2644 but nothing happens. why? Animation rotation = AnimationUtils.loadAnimation(this, R.anim.rotate); Jul 02 10:10:47 mRefreshButton.setAnimation(rotation); Jul 02 10:12:24 i am running ubuntu 12.04 and have a Moto G (4.4.2) and i am trying to get it recognised by adb but to no avail Jul 02 10:12:39 ubuntu is 32bit Jul 02 10:13:24 i have added a line... Jul 02 10:13:24 SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="22b8", ATTR{idProduct}=="2e82", MODE="0666", GROUP="plugdev", OWNER="my_user" Jul 02 10:13:42 in /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules Jul 02 10:14:59 ingsoc, do a lsusb while its plugged in Jul 02 10:15:22 then find out what Bus and Device number it is Jul 02 10:15:24 then do this Jul 02 10:15:24 ingsoc, check dmesg Jul 02 10:15:31 then check lsusb, then theck adb devices Jul 02 10:15:44 but FIRST, check dmesg to see if your kernel even detects the device Jul 02 10:15:55 lsusb... Jul 02 10:15:55 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 22b8:2e82 Motorola PCS Jul 02 10:16:01 which system settings will help me in connecting the correct page back arrow button to some other activity of my choice Jul 02 10:16:10 ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/003 Jul 02 10:16:11 correct/current Jul 02 10:16:18 ok nou type that ingsoc ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/003 Jul 02 10:16:26 and tell me what user and group that device has Jul 02 10:16:44 crw-rw-rw- 1 my_user plugdev 189, 130 Jul 2 11:08 /dev/bus/usb/002/003 Jul 02 10:17:08 is your user on that computer is it my_user? Jul 02 10:17:13 the user you have logged in with? Jul 02 10:17:15 well i edited it Jul 02 10:17:20 kk Jul 02 10:17:24 but yeah it is the same user i entered intot he file Jul 02 10:17:25 have you restarted adb? Jul 02 10:17:34 i have restarted my laptop since Jul 02 10:17:43 and done adb kill-server etc Jul 02 10:17:50 adb start-server etc. Jul 02 10:17:55 triues as my opwn user and sudo Jul 02 10:18:02 tried as my own user and sudo* Jul 02 10:18:06 it is kicking my ass Jul 02 10:18:08 :( Jul 02 10:18:16 hmmm Jul 02 10:18:44 lemonxah: i have never been able to get it recognised as a media card either on my machine Jul 02 10:18:45 as far as my knowledge stretches that should work .. but i am not the linux guru Jul 02 10:18:48 but i have with older android Jul 02 10:19:08 i have only ever done the steps you ahve and it has worked Jul 02 10:19:10 well Jul 02 10:19:17 i didn't set an owner of the device Jul 02 10:19:32 and i have set it to 0666 Jul 02 10:19:38 same as you Jul 02 10:21:14 SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTR{idProduct}=="2351", MODE="0660", Jul 02 10:21:14 GROUP="plugdev", SYMLINK+="android%n" Jul 02 10:21:18 there's also adb_usb.ini Jul 02 10:21:25 that is my line in the udev Jul 02 10:21:29 that i have read people have had to enter the vendor id in hex Jul 02 10:21:31 did you do that ? Jul 02 10:21:42 under ~/.android Jul 02 10:22:01 no that is my udev rule for the device that wasn't recognized by adb Jul 02 10:23:00 orry, i meant did you add a vendor id in hex to your ~/.android/adb_usb.ini Jul 02 10:23:09 nope Jul 02 10:23:56 also i have upgraded my ubuntu to 14.04 a while back Jul 02 10:23:59 hmmm, seems when the screen locks the device is missing from lsusb Jul 02 10:24:02 but i do remember this working on 12.04 Jul 02 10:24:09 also this returns nothing... Jul 02 10:24:11 ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/003 Jul 02 10:24:33 appearing now in lsusb Jul 02 10:24:38 but get this Jul 02 10:24:38 ls: cannot access /dev/bus/usb/002/003: No such file or directory Jul 02 10:24:38 yeah cause if its not in the lsusb the bus is not connected Jul 02 10:24:53 that 002/003 is the bus and device Jul 02 10:24:56 show me the lsusb Jul 02 10:25:24 Bus 002 Device 009: ID 22b8:2e82 Motorola PCS Jul 02 10:25:34 so now it will be 002/009 Jul 02 10:25:37 understand? Jul 02 10:26:18 ha ha Jul 02 10:26:19 i get it Jul 02 10:26:34 lemonxah: apologies for the confusion Jul 02 10:26:38 i had been switching ports Jul 02 10:26:41 just to try Jul 02 10:26:58 no worries Jul 02 10:27:20 it is back now under the new device id Jul 02 10:27:29 portid Jul 02 10:28:08 compared to windows dev in visual studio (years ago) this is pain Jul 02 10:28:14 (windows mobile) Jul 02 10:28:20 everything just worked lol Jul 02 10:28:38 ingsoc, it almost always works Jul 02 10:29:03 but there are always some cases where usb chipsets and specific phone usb chipsets dont gel Jul 02 10:29:07 Is there any way to know if last time my app quit with fatal error ? Jul 02 10:29:18 but if the pc is picking it up it will work we just need to configure it propperly Jul 02 10:30:07 ingsoc, when you do adb devices Jul 02 10:30:17 do you get something like this ?????? no permissions? Jul 02 10:30:18