**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 17 02:59:59 2014 Aug 17 03:04:20 speculative fiction? Aug 17 03:07:20 yeah ... hmm Aug 17 03:07:45 naomi O is a good author for nonfiction Aug 17 03:07:58 she has a few important books Aug 17 03:12:38 lasserix what was the best non-fiction book you read recently ? Aug 17 03:15:59 hm, udacity has a UX course for mobile https://www.udacity.com/course/ud849 Aug 17 03:17:04 umm i reread chaos theory Aug 17 03:17:08 making of a new science Aug 17 03:17:49 and now i am reading his othe rbook on the information age "Information: A history, a theory a flood" (by gleik) Aug 17 03:17:53 its pretty interesting Aug 17 03:18:43 he talks about how the fires atop mountains the greeks used to signal fires (battle at troy, for instance) where essentially 1 bit of information Aug 17 03:19:09 they built up the fire pits, manned them around the clock all for one bit of information: "war or not" Aug 17 03:19:21 interesting Aug 17 03:19:22 in the first chapter, anyways its pretty good Aug 17 03:19:58 brb Aug 17 03:20:10 oh gleick wrote both of those Aug 17 03:21:58 jabza: isnt that EXTERNAL file dir? Aug 17 03:24:21 luist yeah, it'll be in your external files directory, which means it's stored on the SD card but it shouldn't be visible to the user Aug 17 03:24:34 It's explained here: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Context.html#getExternalFilesDir(java.lang.String) Aug 17 03:24:59 jabza: isnt better storing a config file as in PRIVATE_MODE? Aug 17 03:25:11 jabza: its meant only for my app Aug 17 03:26:17 If you're downloading a file, that's your only choice. I don't think you can put it in your internal directory unless you create the file. Maybe you can download it, copy the contents and create a new file, then delete the one you downloaded Aug 17 03:52:08 Hi i am following a tutorial on udemy, There seems to be a problem with either my project configuration. From what I understand I should be using the build-tools 19 but this gradle output suggest i am using 20 https://gist.github.com/ccolorado/82af78e6c9867231b740 ? Any input is greatly appreciated. Aug 17 03:52:47 * with either my project configuration or the course instructions ( I doubt the last one ) Aug 17 03:54:21 The problem is that you left "dp" in after "listPrefferedItemHeight" Aug 17 03:54:25 So the line should read: Aug 17 03:54:35 android:minHeight="?andorid:attr/listPreferredItemHeight" Aug 17 03:54:40 instead of Aug 17 03:54:41 android:minHeight="?andorid:attr/listPreferredItemHeightdp" Aug 17 03:55:20 hey guys, got one quesiton, is there way to alter information given to the gps, or to subsitute an actual computer terminal to given highly accurate fixed location? Aug 17 03:55:40 dang it, i think i fuged that up Aug 17 03:56:20 nm Aug 17 03:56:21 jabza: oh god, Aug 17 03:56:31 actually the problem is Aug 17 03:56:37 "andorid" Aug 17 03:56:39 along with dp Aug 17 03:57:09 quantibility: yep. Enable "allow mock locations" in developer options, then check out here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2531317/android-mock-location-on-device Aug 17 03:57:11 thanks jabza that fixed it. feeling really dumb now Aug 17 03:57:26 ccolorado: no problem, happy to help. It's an easy mistake to make! Aug 17 03:57:38 so thats what the option is for... hah Aug 17 03:57:54 Yes sir! Aug 17 03:58:26 need some guidence then, ? better eclipse or intelliJ/ Aug 17 03:59:11 I prefer Android Studio to Eclipse, but it's up to you. Most tutorials are written with Eclipse in mind, though the code itself is generally the same Aug 17 04:00:17 Why does my app die when I try to use GooglePlayServicesUtil.getErrorDialog(errorCode, getActivity(), 0).show(); Aug 17 04:01:05 I dunno, what's your logcat say? Aug 17 04:01:09 yeah how's it work with pure eclipse, my problem is im linux *(well NOT a problem really) however i always seem to have issues in this enviroment and JDK.. its kinda confusing Aug 17 04:01:16 nullpointerexception Aug 17 04:01:21 on onCreateView Aug 17 04:01:26 i try to use that in fragment Aug 17 04:02:19 give us the log Aug 17 04:03:00 I assume the default place to paste is... pastebin? Aug 17 04:03:19 quantibility: if you're having issues with JDK environment, you should add the line "export JAVA_HOME=/opt/java6" to your ~/.bashrc. But change /opt/java6 to the path of your java installation Aug 17 04:03:20 no Aug 17 04:03:22 pastie.org Aug 17 04:03:34 I usually use pastebin tbh, but use whatever you want Aug 17 04:04:55 yeah thats been my issue jabza, unable to work with my enviroment for being at it for 4 weeks though i don't think im doing too bad.. Aug 17 04:05:08 desmin88: http://pastie.org/private/ovu40huesa6vci69lv3mw Aug 17 04:05:44 And line 140 of samplefragment is Aug 17 04:06:01 GooglePlayServicesUtil.getErrorDialog(errorCode, getActivity(), 0).show(); Aug 17 04:06:20 quantibility: it takes time to learn, I don't blame you. Keep at it and you'll figure it out Aug 17 04:06:31 Jabza: your a bada though that was exactly the answer i was looking for.. cause aparently even if you set in eclipse the setting doesn't hold when you to go to impliment it though Aug 17 04:07:18 now i need to search for the installs because that was about 2 distros ago jabza Aug 17 04:07:21 Yeah, just set it in ~/.bashrc and it'll stick every time you open a terminal, and it'll work for both Eclipse and Android Studio Aug 17 04:07:21 detachYo: what is your error code Aug 17 04:07:49 desmin88: let me debug and tell you Aug 17 04:08:09 i guess i should go for studio then, i will admit it is pretty cool.. ive used on windows... ugh... windows... smh.. what was wrong with me.. Aug 17 04:08:26 detachYo: it looks like errorCode is coming up null when you get to that line Aug 17 04:09:13 jabza: errorcode is an int Aug 17 04:09:16 it cant be null. Aug 17 04:09:39 desmin88: error code is 0 Aug 17 04:09:51 ok Aug 17 04:09:56 It doesn't make sense for getActivity() to be null, though Aug 17 04:09:58 have you read the javadocs for this method Aug 17 04:10:03 hint Aug 17 04:10:04 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17811720/googleplayservicesutil-error-dialog-button-does-nothing Aug 17 04:10:07 oops Aug 17 04:10:08 the errordialog is null Aug 17 04:10:33 The method call is working as intended. Your calling .show() on a null dialog Aug 17 04:10:53 Ha we got a smart one over here Aug 17 04:11:22 ? Aug 17 04:11:23 im really really proficient in google. Aug 17 04:11:31 http://developer.android.com/reference/com/google/android/gms/common/GooglePlayServicesUtil.html#getErrorDialog(int, android.app.Activity, int) Aug 17 04:11:32 Read that Aug 17 04:11:40 if errorcode = Success (0) it returns null Aug 17 04:11:47 lol Aug 17 04:11:51 work arounds Aug 17 04:11:53 desmin88: I was just saying you're smart for figuring it out. I was just assuming one of the arguments was null rather than actually looking it up Aug 17 04:11:59 but before that, I am checking if ConnectionResult.SUCCESS != errorCode Aug 17 04:12:02 shouldn't that take care of it? Aug 17 04:12:49 you messed up somewhere Aug 17 04:13:08 code time Aug 17 04:13:11 how can it be lol Aug 17 04:13:12 alrighty, Aug 17 04:13:15 thanks for your help Aug 17 04:13:20 i'll dig into this later Aug 17 04:13:25 .. Aug 17 04:13:29 ... Aug 17 04:13:47 do you think im lying or something Aug 17 04:14:12 lmfao, why would I think you're lying Aug 17 04:14:15 you're funny dude Aug 17 04:14:31 every time i give you the answer you always seem so doubtful Aug 17 04:14:41 this happened with the action bar tab hightlighting too Aug 17 04:14:41 i am not doubtful about your answers Aug 17 04:15:01 ok Aug 17 04:15:01 good Aug 17 04:15:02 i am doubtful about my code... Aug 17 04:16:52 desmin88: found the problem, in case you'd wonder Aug 17 04:17:14 im woundering? Aug 17 04:17:15 desmin88: you're right, i did mess up somewhere else Aug 17 04:26:44 does anybody have worked on sending MMS programmatically without using an Intent Aug 17 04:27:30 as my code working on below 4.4 Aug 17 04:27:41 but not in Kitkat version Aug 17 04:28:33 google it Aug 17 04:28:33 but no seriously Aug 17 04:28:45 i have googled it alot Aug 17 04:28:50 but all in vain Aug 17 04:29:06 infact checkout the source code Aug 17 04:29:15 so why cant you use an intent Aug 17 04:29:27 client need Aug 17 04:29:48 no manual interaction Aug 17 04:30:27 app should forward SMS and MMS to another mobile without user interaction Aug 17 04:42:12 did you see this Aug 17 04:42:12 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2972845/how-to-send-image-via-mms-in-android?lq=1 Aug 17 04:53:04 yes i saw this but still i will analyse the code let u know Aug 17 04:53:15 thanks for information Aug 17 05:24:23 Hey guys, is it possible to use AccountManager to make the user add a specific Google account to the device? Aug 17 05:27:52 uh can i merg a java instalation Aug 17 05:29:16 quantibility do you even know what you asked Aug 17 05:30:44 what? Aug 17 05:31:44 yes i know desmin88 Aug 17 05:31:51 why do you want to do this Aug 17 05:32:30 i set variables becuase it can't find it.. can i not just merge the java installation Aug 17 05:32:43 merge meaning what Aug 17 05:32:59 bins with bins etc with etcs Aug 17 05:33:19 uhh Aug 17 05:33:22 go ask on #java Aug 17 05:38:58 is there any problem in line 12 and 13 ? http://pastebin.com/rG1BpJVk Aug 17 05:39:14 editor reports the variables are not initialized Aug 17 05:40:18 Activity,imple <-- no comma Aug 17 05:40:31 bankai_au: yes, rectified that Aug 17 05:41:15 bankai_au: the mSendorManager and mAccelerometer variables are red underlined... for which it reports line 12 and 13 .. the respective variables are not initialized Aug 17 05:41:43 ERROR: Cannot start Android Studio Aug 17 05:41:44 No JDK found. Please validate either STUDIO_JDK, JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid JDK installation. Aug 17 05:41:55 can someone help me understand what im doing wrong here? Aug 17 05:41:55 solofight: it's coz they are final Aug 17 05:42:30 bankai_au: oh, thanks Aug 17 05:42:41 quantibility: it tells you what to do Aug 17 05:42:42 * solofight googles about usage of final Aug 17 05:43:20 quantibility: install JDK and set environment variables Aug 17 05:43:29 it is installed Aug 17 05:43:35 did you set env Aug 17 05:43:40 dont know how Aug 17 05:43:54 ... Aug 17 05:43:56 whats your os Aug 17 05:44:24 xubuntu Aug 17 05:44:38 ok Aug 17 05:44:43 now google Aug 17 05:44:50 "xubuntu set environement variables" Aug 17 05:54:26 bankai_au: i learned about final keyword and i can avoid the error by doing private final SensorManager mSensorManager = null; but in that example is there any need for the mSensorManager variable to be declared as final ? Aug 17 05:54:27 if yes why > Aug 17 05:54:28 ? Aug 17 05:54:41 you need to learn java Aug 17 05:54:55 googling i found answers like to have security from c++ hackers Aug 17 05:55:04 if you just learned about the final keyword Aug 17 05:55:42 desmin88: have worked with core java long back - so boldly took a step on learning android by refreshing java along side Aug 17 05:55:48 desmin88: pardon my noobness Aug 17 05:56:26 desmin88: earlier i knew that final var = 0 then you cannot change the value of var inside the program anywhere else Aug 17 06:04:47 unfortunately the motio detector has stopped is the message when i execute this program http://pastebin.com/MjEe0zX0 Aug 17 06:04:56 also have pasted the log output in the paste Aug 17 06:05:00 any reasons why ? Aug 17 06:28:44 how can i simulate a accelerometer tilt in emulaor ? Aug 17 06:29:10 by changing the orientation itself the accelerometer in emulator shows no differnce in values Aug 17 06:30:45 is this the correct way ? https://code.google.com/p/openintents/wiki/SensorSimulator Aug 17 06:37:23 should probably just get a device Aug 17 06:49:36 desmin88: thanks for replying, will get one Aug 17 06:49:45 first building a prototype with emulator Aug 17 06:50:13 desmin88: managed to emulate the accel values in the emulator with the openintents package Aug 17 06:50:27 but this code that i used http://webtutsdepot.com/2011/08/20/android-sdk-accelerometer-example-tutorial/ is not showing any values in the emulator Aug 17 06:50:34 can location be obtained by "geomagnetic field sensor"? Aug 17 06:50:45 desmin88: the code does not have any errors, and ran successfully in the emulator Aug 17 06:50:49 but no accel values Aug 17 06:51:11 whereas when i use the open intents tool inside the emulator it responds to the accel values changes Aug 17 06:52:45 solofight: you need to test accelerometer on real device. Aug 17 06:53:06 goodwin: no way to test on emulator ? Aug 17 06:53:19 i just used openintents to emulate the accel values inside Aug 17 06:53:29 goodwin: it will take some time for me to get a real device Aug 17 06:53:35 any alternatives till then ? Aug 17 06:55:41 nope Aug 17 06:56:01 solofight: from google site, "You currently can't test sensor code on the emulator because the emulator cannot emulate sensors. You must test your sensor code on a physical device. There are, however, sensor simulators that you can use to simulate sensor output." Aug 17 06:56:08 Hello. I've run into a problem where I hide() 1 fragment, show() 2 other ones and save it to the backstack. However if I cancel the animations with the back key, the first one stays hidden. Without an animation it's fine. Anything I can do about it? http://pastebin.com/hxacmwZA Aug 17 06:57:29 solofight: if you're going to do be doing any serious android dev work youll need atleast 1 good device Aug 17 06:59:18 can location be obtained by "geomagnetic field sensor" with a (lat,long) database? Aug 17 07:08:04 desmin88: i want to do programming for accel, gps and gyro and continously moniot their values to produce a map - how much does a decent device cost for this activity ? Aug 17 07:09:23 if i cannot pass these simulated accel values from openintents to my app - what is the use of having such application ? its just for showing the accel values which i produce from my desktop to their own openintent application ? Aug 17 07:09:29 whats the use of that ! Aug 17 07:15:00 yuo might as well give up now and never look back Aug 17 07:15:33 ^ Aug 17 07:20:39 good morning :) does anyone have an example of adding a new contact with its name and phone number? (I tried some things from google, nothing really worked) Aug 17 07:22:04 http://developer.android.com/training/contacts-provider/modify-data.html Aug 17 07:22:45 pretty much 95% of questions are answered by looking at the offical site/docs Aug 17 07:22:50 StingRay: without intent :) Aug 17 07:22:57 oh without sorry Aug 17 07:23:12 fk, well you could grab the content provider Aug 17 07:23:15 and insert Aug 17 07:23:33 yeah, this is what I tried Aug 17 07:23:43 but contacts are a relational database of may trees/branches Aug 17 07:24:06 like raw contact, account, type all converge to be a contact the user sees Aug 17 07:24:10 done though cp Aug 17 07:25:13 I think you would need to decide on type and the account to create a raw entry then add the granular stuff Aug 17 07:25:29 but never done it, so just guessing Aug 17 07:25:31 never needed to Aug 17 07:25:33 :) Aug 17 07:25:53 http://pastebin.com/K7FNTENL Aug 17 07:26:01 this is my code and the excpetion ^^ Aug 17 07:26:30 I don't really care which type, I just need a person with a name and a phone number :) Aug 17 07:27:25 well then you do care the type Aug 17 07:27:35 cause it needs to support data of name and number Aug 17 07:27:36 lol Aug 17 07:27:38 which one do I need? Aug 17 07:27:47 where can I read about the differences? Aug 17 07:27:54 you need a phone entry hung from a raw contact I think Aug 17 07:28:03 not just the raw contact insert Aug 17 07:28:14 but like I say, never done it or wanted to so all speculation Aug 17 07:28:50 it makes sense what you wrote :) Aug 17 07:29:10 (sorry for my lame english, it's too early in the morning...) Aug 17 07:29:51 I'm 5 more coffees away from being 10% proficient so know the feeling Aug 17 08:03:29 hey Aug 17 08:04:25 can anybody help me with this? https://github.com/kncgroup/bitcoin-wallet/issues/2 Aug 17 08:04:43 when i import a jar file into the libs directory of my project - how do i use them ? import android.hardware.jar_file_name does not recognize it Aug 17 08:11:06 solofight: best to use google for things like that, "how to use jar lib in (insert ide here)" Aug 17 08:11:35 StingRay_: yep just watching a video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHEvI_G6UtI Aug 17 08:11:57 StingRay_: found that i missed out the compiling with gradle part Aug 17 08:12:04 Thanks for replying Aug 17 08:14:49 can anybody help me with maven? Aug 17 08:16:37 Is google maps api 3.0 available for android sdk? Aug 17 08:49:07 has anyone successfully implemented geofence with broadcast receivers? Aug 17 08:49:20 i just need an advice on a direction i should take Aug 17 08:58:30 is there an easy way of temporarily disabling google play services, to test stuff on the phone? Aug 17 09:02:40 detachYo: isn't your broadcast question similar to asking if anyone has implemented databases with a broadcastReceiver ? Aug 17 09:02:46 or anything with anything ? Aug 17 09:03:31 I just dont think there is a question there… not meaning to be rude… maybe I dont understand what the issue is though :) Aug 17 09:07:02 Anyone know how to add google maps api library in androud studio? Aug 17 09:07:31 Um, Google maps API is part of Play Services library. Aug 17 09:10:11 Woah, there's OPs on the channel! Aug 17 09:18:22 yeah but it says it needs support library? Aug 17 09:18:25 fuck the support libraries Aug 17 09:18:42 good luck with that Aug 17 09:18:45 :) Aug 17 09:20:40 Do any of you guys have a personal website for people to hire you? I need some inspiration Aug 17 09:22:20 Guess my question is even if idont plan on supporting older phones, the gsm play services still requires it? Aug 17 09:23:21 if you want to use something that it provides "support" for then yes Aug 17 09:23:25 if not no :) Aug 17 09:27:57 StingRay_: I think there wasn't anything wrong with my question. Aug 17 09:28:16 well what is a geofence ? Aug 17 09:28:31 and what has it to do with a broadcast receiver or and activity ? Aug 17 09:28:41 or a service or intentService Aug 17 09:28:47 StingRay_: you're hanging on my words, I think you know what I meant. Aug 17 09:28:59 :) Aug 17 09:29:05 I didn't or I would maybe try and help Aug 17 09:29:17 it an odd question to me Aug 17 09:29:23 StingRay_: have you ever eaten bacon with eggs? Aug 17 09:29:42 yes both are food Aug 17 09:29:42 what is bacon, or eggs? asparagus? maybe more bacon. Aug 17 09:29:45 that go in a meal Aug 17 09:29:47 ^^ That's what I see. Aug 17 09:30:05 ah well no it's not like that is it lol Aug 17 09:30:12 Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be rude either. Aug 17 09:30:20 Yes, that's how I understood it. Aug 17 09:30:21 :) Aug 17 09:30:31 it;s like syaing how would I eat bacon and eggs in a car while on a boat is it possible Aug 17 09:30:46 and then, but could I eat it on a train Aug 17 09:31:13 My question was: "has anyone successfully implemented geofence with broadcast receivers?" Aug 17 09:31:43 well I would suspect 99% chance yes they have and do Aug 17 09:31:51 Might not be the most descriptive question, but being an android dev and having the knowledge you do, I think you'd understand what I meant. I might be wrong. Aug 17 09:31:53 it quite efficient to do it that way….at a guess Aug 17 09:32:21 but what I mean is thats no different than saying has anyone done it in an activity Aug 17 09:32:26 or service Aug 17 09:32:28 thats my point Aug 17 09:32:46 how else would it be done…thats kinda my follow question :) Aug 17 09:32:46 Is it though? BroadcastReceiver != activity != service Aug 17 09:33:05 all = android component hung of context for doing "things" Aug 17 09:33:24 so yes, they are all fruit as apples and pears are Aug 17 09:33:50 I can't believe we are arguing about this. LOL Aug 17 09:34:00 not an argument at all Aug 17 09:34:08 just saying your question has no answers Aug 17 09:34:23 but I would suspect the answer is …well if thats the way you choose to do it Aug 17 09:34:56 ok look at it this way, what are you stuck with ? Aug 17 09:35:00 lol I get it. I love the fact that you're not being a dick about my question, like some other people are sometimes. So respect! Aug 17 09:35:02 thats a better starting point :) Aug 17 09:35:36 oh dont get me wrong, I am a dick, I just lack coffee enought to be a real dick! Aug 17 09:35:42 * StingRay_ goes for more coffee Aug 17 09:36:12 Indeed. First let me say I have no problem understanding/implementing code. Since I started android dev not too long ago, I still don't understand concepts and way of doing things that clearly. I want to implement a geofence to send email/message/notification when a user enters in an area that s/he has set up previously. THe user can set up multiple locations. Aug 17 09:36:41 StingRay_: are you a 100% dick? "Guardians of the galaxy reference" Aug 17 09:36:53 not seen it yet, but want to Aug 17 09:36:55 no time Aug 17 09:36:57 why havent i designed my apps on paper first Aug 17 09:37:04 so much easier to understand what im doing Aug 17 09:37:14 having not looked at geofences I take it you register interest in some system service handler ? Aug 17 09:37:39 I guess, I am not too familiar with system service handlers. Aug 17 09:37:40 or pass in some object that defines and area along with an intent that should be fired if condition is true ? Aug 17 09:38:16 I am confused because some examples use IntentService, some use BroadcastReceiver. Some implement location updates... Isn't the point of geofence to take care of itself, like alarmmamanger. Aug 17 09:38:36 right but alarm manger fires and intent right ? Aug 17 09:38:44 Second one sounds closer to what I try to do. Aug 17 09:38:44 Yes. Aug 17 09:38:51 that intent could trigger whatever is listening Aug 17 09:39:03 headless listen = broadcast receiver Aug 17 09:39:22 if app is running, maybe it's within the activity you register a receiver Aug 17 09:39:26 whatever is listening for that intent, or whatever that intent is listening to? Aug 17 09:39:39 listening for the intent Aug 17 09:39:44 have a look at intent filters Aug 17 09:39:52 then you will understand it all a little better Aug 17 09:40:01 intent = package of stuff Aug 17 09:40:14 with clear and defined names, addresses on it... Aug 17 09:40:18 contents can be whatever Aug 17 09:40:49 android shouts to the things listening for that "type" of intent by way of a filter in a receiver Aug 17 09:40:59 intent/pendingIntents Aug 17 09:41:19 you can obviously do things direct with intents like fire up activites too Aug 17 09:41:48 reading now on android. The above makes a lot of sense and helps me understand it better. Aug 17 09:42:08 s/android/android dev website/ Aug 17 09:42:22 are broadcastreceivers services? Aug 17 09:42:26 new Intent("SOME_FILTER_IDENT"); defines and intent…god knows what will deal with it, but if I register a broadcast receiver that listens for that action Aug 17 09:42:35 it will be fired and I can do things Aug 17 09:42:37 no Aug 17 09:42:48 you would fire a service up if thats what you wanted Aug 17 09:43:16 so in the broadcast receivers onReceive… fire an intent service to deal with the xxx stuff off the UI thread Aug 17 09:43:45 Currently using broadcastreceiver with alarm manager, consuming pending intent. So that part makes a little more sense than the geofencing stuff. Aug 17 09:44:13 well I would suspect just like location listening you register with it to receive updates/triggers Aug 17 09:44:22 but as I said, never used so dont know Aug 17 09:45:01 but yeah, was not being funny with my orig question, just your question didn't help in any way in what you were doing or what you were stuck with :) Aug 17 09:45:15 probably why no1 has answered in 2 days ;) Aug 17 09:45:18 I am confused because you set up an alarmmanager, and at the given time it triggers the broadcastreceiver. Aug 17 09:45:25 no Aug 17 09:45:31 it fires a broadcast Aug 17 09:45:35 containts and intent Aug 17 09:45:39 that you are listening for Aug 17 09:45:47 there is no direct start there Aug 17 09:45:53 as I understand android Aug 17 09:45:54 :) Aug 17 09:46:05 but here is a killer, I'm not a programmer !! Aug 17 09:46:19 so only listen to 5% of what I say ;) Aug 17 09:46:27 * StingRay_ really does go off to make coffee Aug 17 09:46:49 StingRay_: WHAT ARE YOU! Aug 17 09:46:56 right Aug 17 09:49:19 I'm a 3D TD/Games TD Artist/VFX person Aug 17 09:49:35 or thats what my instructor status with autodesk says Aug 17 09:49:50 That's really cool man. Aug 17 09:49:56 I am a perl developer. :D Aug 17 09:50:03 if it were that cool I would not be learning android ;) Aug 17 09:50:52 haha Aug 17 09:51:06 Perl is cool, but I am trying to expand my skillset. Aug 17 09:51:43 least your comming from a programming BG Aug 17 09:52:01 I come from the fairy land of art and design Aug 17 09:52:02 :) Aug 17 09:52:44 Agree. I think that's why I have no problem understanding code and implementing. Just gotta learn how things work in android land. Aug 17 09:54:00 Alright. I am off to bed. Aug 17 09:54:09 Thanks for all your help StingRay_ Aug 17 09:54:17 np :) Aug 17 09:56:24 hi Aug 17 09:56:29 how do i debug an android app? i got a sdl app compiled without errors, works on linux desktop, compiled to a .apk without errors, but on android it just says 'SDL app quit' Aug 17 09:57:21 is there an error console somewhere that shows ... errors? Aug 17 09:57:44 lolcat Aug 17 09:57:56 "adb lolcat" to be more precise Aug 17 09:59:19 Or pidcat, for colored output. I think at least Arch and OS X Homebrew have a package for it. Aug 17 09:59:58 i see logcat, but no lolcat ;) Aug 17 10:01:03 both work... Aug 17 10:01:18 you'll also probably have to use gdbserver build for some serious debugging Aug 17 10:07:05 hi, i know that bluetooth a2db thing can capture anroid' system playback and transmit it to PC. i wonder, what needed to be able to transmit the same playback not over bluetooth, but via TCP/IP, over wifi network for instance? Aug 17 10:07:46 seems like i don't have to replace android audio system with pulseaudio for that, as it capable of making playback monitor already, with a2dp Aug 17 10:08:05 but is there any specs/docs regarding accessing this playback monitors? Aug 17 10:08:29 Hey guys is there any way I can reference screen's width/height in objectAnimator? Like http://pastebin.com/qTKjHyNF Aug 17 10:15:54 are xml attribs not populated at runtime ? so they would not get updated ? Aug 17 10:16:00 StingRay_: the gsm play services wont compile in my project unless i have support library (though I am not using it) -- so this is a bug? Aug 17 10:16:04 so rotation of screen = fails :) Aug 17 10:16:24 play services depends on support Aug 17 10:16:30 as far as I recall Aug 17 10:16:38 skulltower: you can always get device screen with from context.getDisplayMetrics Aug 17 10:16:53 ahh okay so you do have to have support lib even if you dont use Aug 17 10:17:05 well you are indrectly using it Aug 17 10:17:18 so yes, you have to satify deps on things you are using :) Aug 17 10:17:21 yeah yeah just wish all older phones would die off already Aug 17 10:17:46 and now my google play services needs to be updated so i downloadednew system image but battery too low sigh Aug 17 10:17:47 StingRay_, ahh yes you are right so that wouldn't work.. lasserix I can get the width/height, I'm just having trouble referencing those values in an xml animation :/ Aug 17 10:17:56 GingerBread forever! Aug 17 10:23:02 new system image? O.o Aug 17 10:23:09 why? Aug 17 10:24:45 huh? Aug 17 10:26:46 system image - system update Aug 17 10:27:11 but why. Aug 17 10:27:13 really want to get one of those inductive chargers so i can dev on my n5 without any cables and it be fully charged all the time Aug 17 10:27:16 Play services are updated from play store. Aug 17 10:27:22 rooted device Aug 17 10:27:26 dunno Aug 17 10:27:29 says its up to date Aug 17 10:27:31 it even gives you an intent Aug 17 10:27:43 that you can call that automatically redirects user to update his GPS from store Aug 17 10:27:44 yeah it says have to update, i go then there is no update just open Aug 17 11:51:37 need help, when i click on textview dialog appears. I have edittext. in the dialog window. I want open dialog with editbox and virtual keyboards as well. Now i always need click to edittext again Aug 17 11:52:34 what i have to setup to automaticaly keyboard is appera with dialog window ? Aug 17 12:04:02 Is DrawerLayout only avaible in the Support Library and not in the native Android Library? Aug 17 12:05:50 I was using google maps api and got the app to run but everytime i goto launch it i get a msg and button that says "This app wont run unless you update google play services" and update Aug 17 12:05:59 but i cannot update, just open Aug 17 12:06:05 anyone know how to resolve this problem? Aug 17 12:08:03 Rayne: yeah it's only in the v4 support lib Aug 17 12:11:19