**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 16 02:59:58 2014 Sep 16 03:02:44 if i wantede to align 3 butons horizontally in the middle Sep 16 03:03:00 would i give each one a layout_width in dips or is there a better way Sep 16 03:03:10 because one screen may have more dp than other Sep 16 03:03:52 "in the middle" has little to do with display density Sep 16 03:04:17 the middle of one screen 1000px wide is the same as the middle of a screen 400px wide Sep 16 03:04:25 it's in the "middle" :) Sep 16 03:04:26 middle is relative Sep 16 03:05:02 yeah but i want the 3 buttons to scale depending on display width Sep 16 03:05:18 so that there’s not much space to the left or to the right Sep 16 03:05:20 you can do use linearlayout and weights Sep 16 03:05:25 i think i’m thinking at it the wrong way Sep 16 03:05:29 yeah i was using a relative layout Sep 16 03:06:36 well, to do with Gravity Sep 16 03:06:54 LinearLayout that is Vertical with Gravity.CENTER on the child views Sep 16 03:07:12 and what weight should i assign to the buttons Sep 16 03:07:18 dont Sep 16 03:07:20 sorry i just started learning android Sep 16 03:07:22 irrelevant Sep 16 03:07:38 and what width should i put then Sep 16 03:07:51 depends on the style and design of the button Sep 16 03:07:55 some value in DP Sep 16 03:08:59 are dps in any way % of the screen size? Sep 16 03:09:06 the best kitkat is the dark kitkat with 70% cacao Sep 16 03:09:15 i want to make the width something like 30% Sep 16 03:09:33 delgiudices they you start having to nest layouts and use weight to do that Sep 16 03:09:33 to get 30% of screen width Sep 16 03:09:39 but better to choose a dimension Sep 16 03:09:57 you can do weightsum as 10, and the child view as 3 Sep 16 03:10:02 30% that is a variable 30% is an odd design choice, what about orientation ? Sep 16 03:10:22 what do you mean with orientation Sep 16 03:10:40 device orientation Sep 16 03:10:46 i turn it 90 degrees Sep 16 03:10:48 :) Sep 16 03:10:57 the application doesn’t allow it ;p Sep 16 03:11:04 uhh Sep 16 03:11:05 why not? Sep 16 03:11:19 because my client wants it like that Sep 16 03:11:23 fucking clients. Sep 16 03:11:32 dont think a client would want that Sep 16 03:11:47 not if you explain that users dont like to be told how to hold a device Sep 16 03:12:14 most devs sell that cause they dont know how to handle orientation … i was the same when I started Sep 16 03:12:37 isn't that what apple did? "you're holding it wrong" *ducks* Sep 16 03:12:54 delgiudices: android:layout_width="0.3" Sep 16 03:13:25 oops Sep 16 03:13:31 delgiudices: android:layout_weight="0.3" Sep 16 03:14:06 meh thanks alot for the info Sep 16 03:14:13 schmooz StingRay_ Sep 16 03:16:05 ok so the weight problem fixed the width Sep 16 03:16:14 but now how do i make that the height is the same as the width Sep 16 03:16:18 so i can keep the image proportions Sep 16 03:19:30 you stop using % Sep 16 03:19:36 yeah Sep 16 03:19:46 % != constants on any devices Sep 16 03:20:41 as in wdith/heigh is not the same … oh and not even the same on the same device based on whats happening Sep 16 03:21:07 i use it for even spacing Sep 16 03:22:57 so how can i have 3 image buttons fille the width >< Sep 16 03:23:16 without % Sep 16 03:27:00 delgiudices not a great question Sep 16 03:27:07 g00s_: typhoon is done... Sep 16 03:27:17 layout weight = 1 for all buttons is fine Sep 16 03:27:31 you don't have to split it up so that it sums 1 Sep 16 03:27:58 shmooz, no reason to go 0.3 Sep 16 03:34:27 Hello. How can I get new data from server to android (without using GCM)? I'm still new to android development :( Sep 16 03:34:57 why dont you want to use gcm Sep 16 03:35:22 and gcm would be used to tell it to get new data, not really for the data itself, unless it's like tiny :) Sep 16 03:35:38 desmin88: can I use GCM to populate listview or other widget etc..? Sep 16 03:35:47 yes you can Sep 16 03:36:03 as StingRay_ said, you use GCM to tell the app to pull new data Sep 16 03:36:06 that's like asking if you can use a steering wheel to get from point A to point B Sep 16 03:36:33 Leeds no it's like asking if you can use the keys to go from a to b Sep 16 03:36:34 :) Sep 16 03:36:58 I want to implement realtime comments (like facebook) Sep 16 03:37:30 .. and I dont know how to implement :( Sep 16 03:37:45 lnoskhen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP Sep 16 03:37:53 could be an option Sep 16 03:38:22 implementing your own XMPP is probably not a good idea Sep 16 03:39:20 lnoskhen: you're comparing different conceptual layers - GCM is a tool for either transferring small-ish amounts of data, or poking your app to go download data... what you do with that data depends entirely on you and your needs Sep 16 03:43:55 lnoskhen fb uses mqtt Sep 16 03:44:56 but they also have the resources to scale it out on their servers Sep 16 03:47:59 Does GCM is capable from pulling 2 different data at the same time? Sep 16 03:48:45 lnoskhen I think maybe you should read up a bit more…. then when you have a better understanding come back to ask questions Sep 16 03:49:15 StingRay_: yeah :D Sep 16 03:52:06 Hey guys Sep 16 03:52:16 so I'm using Retrofit with the default GSON Sep 16 03:52:22 I thought I'd read that whatsapp was using GCM Sep 16 03:52:31 and there's a wrong type somewhere deep in my object Sep 16 03:52:42 com.google.gson.JsonSyntaxException: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Expected an int but was BOOLEAN at line 1 column 432 Sep 16 03:52:49 is there a better way of handling this? Sep 16 03:52:56 i.e. actually knowing what it refers to? Sep 16 03:53:07 redwraith: Use Gson 2.3 Sep 16 03:53:16 Got it. Sep 16 03:53:30 I'm trying to use the SignInButton.class in com.google.android.gms.common and android stdio is saying that the sources are not found, when I click attach sources it finds the right class but nothing happens after I attach it Sep 16 03:53:40 It will give you a JsonPath to the offending field. Sep 16 03:53:56 Like $.user[3].age Sep 16 03:54:45 Mrono: Play Services are closed source. Sep 16 03:54:46 Alright. Sep 16 03:55:04 Is there a converter I can just load in or do I need to grab a separate library? Sep 16 03:55:22 JakeWharton: this is coming from the prebuilt activity, and it worked fine a few days ago. Sep 16 03:55:32 Just add the Gson 2.3 dependency Sep 16 03:55:39 Convenient. Sep 16 03:55:41 Thanks. Sep 16 03:55:43 JakeWharton: now I can't even run it at all Sep 16 03:57:16 You were already getting Gson 2.2.4 implicitly. Adding the explicit dependency overrides it with the newer version. Sep 16 03:57:37 how do i add an imageview from xml without loading all the memory in the vm Sep 16 03:57:52 delgiudices: rethink that question Sep 16 03:58:24 how to display an image without consuming all the phone memory Sep 16 03:58:29 better? :p Sep 16 03:58:45 that doesnt even make sense Sep 16 03:59:06 delgiudices please use google http://developer.android.com/training/displaying-bitmaps/load-bitmap.html Sep 16 03:59:12 takes like seconds Sep 16 04:00:54 JakeWharton, thank you. New error message tells me where to go "com.google.gson.JsonSyntaxException: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Expected an int but was BOOLEAN at line 1 column 432 path $.friend" :) Sep 16 04:01:24 excellent. much more helpful message Sep 16 04:01:54 Exactly. Sep 16 04:09:47 whats a good article about saving activity state Sep 16 04:10:56 my main activity implements on locationchange so im getting some unnecessary activity Sep 16 04:11:25 should i use onRetainNonConfigurationInstance Sep 16 04:16:45 onRetainNonConfigurationInstance is kinda deprecated Sep 16 04:16:48 use fragment instead Sep 16 04:16:58 uhh Sep 16 04:17:02 fragment retain instance = true. Then store data in that fragment. Sep 16 04:17:05 wrong answer Sep 16 04:17:52 you can save some state in onSaveInstanceState Sep 16 04:17:58 that also can be done Sep 16 04:18:10 but if there’s too many items that wouldn’t be a good idea Sep 16 04:18:34 parcelling and unparcelling will slow down the app. Sep 16 04:18:39 dont say it like using "onSaveInstanceState" is the wrong way Sep 16 04:18:44 and fragments to hold state is the better alternative Sep 16 04:22:00 so, if something doesn't work the way it supposed to with Google Map API we are out of luck? No support? Sep 16 04:22:48 log a bug with google if it's not working properly Sep 16 04:26:12 actually not sure if it is a Android app/key issue, the documentation on that sucks Sep 16 04:35:58 capella https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8321185 Sep 16 04:36:33 * capella-s3 reads Sep 16 04:37:08 can anyone help me understand app/key? For example, lets say another dev registers com.example.application1, can another person register the same app with a different key? Sep 16 04:37:27 for google maps v2 api Sep 16 04:38:57 the key is tied to your account and your app -- doesn't matter about anyone else Sep 16 04:40:53 re: firefox mobile.. they say nice things :) Sep 16 04:42:21 :) Sep 16 04:45:53 this looks fun http://digg.com/video/inside-the-world-of-longsword-fighting Sep 16 04:46:09 but i think they should use sharper swords :P Sep 16 04:46:14 "just a flesh wound" Sep 16 04:46:49 bankai_: want point? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25860812/google-api-access-for-android-apps-duplicate-app Sep 16 04:47:15 but if my app is the same as someone else's I can do that? Sep 16 04:47:16 * g00s_ needs to watch some sword fighting between bluetooth training videos Sep 16 04:48:02 you've made bluetooth sound so painful Sep 16 04:48:24 BLE is actually very nice; android apis not so much Sep 16 04:49:09 i'm thinking about building some of my own hardware, maybe like NO2 / CO sensors for around the house Sep 16 04:57:57 how to tell which app is responsible for home swipe up gesture intent? i have something called "do nothing" there and not sure what app it is: http://i.imgur.com/ptvbNxH.png Sep 16 04:58:37 if you press it, it might log out in logcat the activity you're starting Sep 16 04:58:54 also, nice 5th Element reference :) Sep 16 05:01:48 hehe Sep 16 05:02:03 ill check logcat, thanks Sep 16 05:03:10 hey is there a good way to run android apps on a PC / Mac in a web browser? Sep 16 05:03:45 like: run an android game as a web browser based game? Sep 16 05:04:04 depends if it was written in jfs/libgdx Sep 16 05:04:10 jfx* Sep 16 05:04:35 cocos2d-x Sep 16 05:05:01 bankai_ Sep 16 05:07:11 I am trying to port ICS Keyboard to my phone (my phone has target 15) and the minSdkVersion is set 11 Sep 16 05:07:40 the AOSP Ics keyboard compiles fine, but without any voice support Sep 16 05:08:50 barbs: its greenify. they added the "nothing" action to home swipe up gesture Sep 16 05:09:23 hmmm, I've not heard of greenify... Sep 16 05:09:51 greenify hibernates apps Sep 16 05:10:05 that are in background until brought to foreground Sep 16 05:10:28 things like facebook, i greenify Sep 16 05:11:45 anyway thanks for reminding me about catlog app Sep 16 05:12:34 just get a phone with tiny memory and everything gets greenified :) Sep 16 05:12:42 as stuff gets swapped out left and right :D Sep 16 05:13:09 on froyo, starting the web browser on my phone would pretty much greenify everything Sep 16 05:14:11 but seriously, WP 8 has this too :) Sep 16 05:17:44 basically, they have 2 settings. One, you say which apps are allowed to run in the bg, and which aren't. Then there is the battery saver: you set an event (battery low, until next charge, always) and after that event all apps are forced to not run in bg Sep 16 05:18:25 too bad they really screwed up their desktop / phone stores, the tech is sweet Sep 16 05:18:34 and other missteps in marketing probably Sep 16 05:19:47 i'm super curious as to how they are going to pull of the whole 'unified app' thing; maybe the info is out there i just haven't been following it Sep 16 05:38:23 g00s_ unified app ? Sep 16 05:38:58 StingRay_ yeah this thing http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2014/04/02/microsoft-build-2014/ Sep 16 05:39:39 ugh, thats made of jizz and fairy dust and I think is on a par with great marketing like "console quality graphics on a mobile device" Sep 16 05:40:12 why is having a unified runtime across phone, desktop, xbox jizz and fairy dust? Sep 16 05:40:16 ok at all is master of none Sep 16 05:40:35 its the way things are heading , all platforms. go! Sep 16 05:40:56 hope not Sep 16 05:41:44 this is probably why they got rid of the "Windows Phone" name; its just windows now Sep 16 05:41:46 there maybe such things in the future as a unified app, but there will be platform specific that kinda make that app a little redundant Sep 16 05:42:01 so all these things run the same kernels and runtimes Sep 16 05:42:06 well, not on about simple apps Sep 16 05:42:56 you basically share the guts while making UI's for different form factors Sep 16 05:43:01 so i think its a good deal Sep 16 05:43:10 for anything simple yeah Sep 16 05:43:36 but runtime support is not often the main factor in application design is it Sep 16 05:43:50 platform capability steps in for anything but the most simple apps Sep 16 05:44:31 like I said, my run planner and facebook apps sure though.. Sep 16 05:48:28 I am able to use datepicker,timepicker. Is there any datetimepicker which gives access to both date and time Sep 16 06:32:24 niru, it's not like you're only allowed to use stock built-in dialogs Sep 16 06:39:55 do you know of an open source IR remote app? Sep 16 06:41:07 niru: looks like you might be able to find something here: http://android-arsenal.com/free . Look under Date Pickers Sep 16 06:41:46 ravilov: yes something customized for that Sep 16 06:42:12 barbs: thanks going through the link Sep 16 07:05:03 how do you do voice recognition on android? Sep 16 07:05:33 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/speech/package-summary.html i found this Sep 16 07:05:44 but it would be cool to see an example or something Sep 16 07:09:09 RustyShackleford: http://www.androidhive.info/2014/07/android-speech-to-text-tutorial/ Sep 16 07:22:03 also wondering how you could have a service that always listens for a voice command. Sep 16 07:22:24 sorta like the Google Now Launcher always listens for "Ok, Google" Sep 16 07:25:02 hello I have to let the user pick one file on the file system. I tried aFileChooser wich doesn't work very well. Do you know an alternative? Would be nice if comes with gradle Sep 16 07:42:18 hi? Sep 16 07:42:24 Anyone using robotium? Sep 16 07:43:05 Hey all, how can I remove the default expandedlist icon? I don't want any. Sep 16 07:43:12 My tests fail randomly...they always pass when run individually though Sep 16 07:43:15 RustyShackleford, good luck with having that and not killing the battery life Sep 16 07:43:46 ravilov, how does google pull it off then? Sep 16 07:43:54 RustyShackleford, you should look into Moto X hardware specs Sep 16 07:44:25 this has actually been covered yesterday, someone else asked this exact same thing (was it you?) Sep 16 07:45:50 It was him Sep 16 07:46:02 figured it was Sep 16 07:46:15 as far as I remember, he got the answer yesterday Sep 16 07:46:22 not sure why go over this yet again Sep 16 08:00:24 ravilov, i don't know, maybe some diferent people are here today Sep 16 08:00:37 IIRC the answer was that it would eat battery life Sep 16 08:05:56 there is no point in asking over and over again, you won't get a different answer just because you didn't like the first one Sep 16 08:06:29 yes, it would kill the battery life, and that answer won't change no matter how many times you ask; if you want to know WHY, there's your google Sep 16 08:13:07 well google now launcher did not kill my battery life Sep 16 08:13:40 there might be a clever way to reduce battery usage Sep 16 08:14:24 ¨Ok Google, shut down phone¨ Sep 16 08:16:27 VnM: Is that the clever way to save battery usage? ^^ Sep 16 08:20:50 but then my app work work Sep 16 08:22:03 RustyShackleford, are you google? because if not, it makes little sense to think "if google can do it, then so can I" Sep 16 08:22:46 also, what device are we talking about? Sep 16 08:23:34 phones and/or tablets Sep 16 08:23:48 no Sep 16 08:23:56 you said "it didn't kill my battery life" Sep 16 08:23:58 what device? Sep 16 08:27:09 galaxy S4 Sep 16 08:34:34 I have added a searchview, gave it a label (not visible to user by default) and a hint, however I cannot see the hint. I have configured a textcolor so I guess it's not an issue of it being there but invisble. Any ideas? Sep 16 08:35:05 unless the searchview uses a different attribute to set hintcolor? Sep 16 08:35:25 SASDOE: how did you set the hint? XML? Sep 16 08:35:35 yes Sep 16 08:35:59 can you show the file? have you tried it promatically? Sep 16 08:36:47 Haven't tried progamitically. https://gist.github.com/SASDOE/d0281b8cfb532b51c725 Sep 16 08:37:49 dumb question, @string/hint_search is not an empty string? Sep 16 08:38:10 we had someone with the exact same problem here a few days back.. Sep 16 08:38:32 and it was some kind of stupid bug in the android framework itself, but I cant remember Sep 16 08:39:17 No it used to be an edittext and worked fine Sep 16 08:39:34 oh wait! Sep 16 08:39:49 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/SearchView.html Sep 16 08:40:05 xml attribute for searchview is android:queryHint, not android:hint Sep 16 08:40:07 hi, can somebody point me to some examples on using intent template in a RemoteViewsFactory? I want to send the id of the item with the intent, i just cant seem to get it to work (and don't really understand how the template and the getViewat work together) Sep 16 08:40:10 Ah it's a queryhint Sep 16 08:40:18 Ok thanks! Sep 16 08:40:45 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/search/search-dialog.html this should be updated then Sep 16 08:43:03 And I guess that the API wont let me see the hint before I select the search bar? I have the hint, but only once I can type in the search bar. Sep 16 08:43:46 So I've just got an odd looking magnifying glass by itself. Sep 16 08:45:27 if you dont collapse it, youll see the hint the whole time. Sep 16 08:46:35 How do I not collapse it? Sep 16 08:47:03 iconifiedByDefault="false", thanks! Sep 16 08:47:34 integration tests are sooooooo fun to refactor Sep 16 08:47:42 so unbelievably fun! Sep 16 08:48:49 lasserix: some day.. ill write tests Sep 16 08:49:06 that become some kind of a life motto for me ^^' Sep 16 08:49:08 they are actually incredibly useful Sep 16 08:49:18 but man android test framework kinda blows Sep 16 08:49:22 I agree and I usually do it. Sep 16 08:49:24 but not for android Sep 16 08:49:29 and the key is to make sure you really set up your architecture well Sep 16 08:49:31 for the testing Sep 16 08:49:37 so when you go change something fundemental Sep 16 08:49:43 i acttually write test methods for the logical part in android Sep 16 08:49:54 it is easy to reflect those chages it he framework, ie you dont have to manually edit a 1000 lines Sep 16 08:49:54 but no integration tests or tests on views.. Sep 16 08:59:59 its not too hard Sep 16 09:00:02 just tedious Sep 16 09:00:38 hi all, how can I import something like "com.android.internal.policy.impl.GlobalActions" to my project? Sep 16 09:04:23 is that internal to the android sdk?> Sep 16 09:05:08 I guess so Sep 16 09:05:14 hmm Sep 16 09:05:18 does not look lieke it Sep 16 09:05:20 com.android.internal Sep 16 09:05:26 can you import it?> Sep 16 09:05:41 i mean are you having a problem? looks like it would be inaccessable Sep 16 09:05:48 no Sep 16 09:06:00 so what's the problem? Sep 16 09:07:54 The problem is that I need to use it, but it's inaccessible Sep 16 09:07:58 meital: i dont belive you can't Sep 16 09:08:03 because it is inaccessable Sep 16 09:08:07 so use grep online Sep 16 09:08:12 and copy into your project manually Sep 16 09:08:17 tis the only way Sep 16 09:08:24 https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/742a67127366c376fdf188ff99ba30b27d3bf90c/policy/src/com/android/internal/policy/impl/GlobalActions.java Sep 16 09:08:44 Can Activity have 2 parent Activities? Sep 16 09:08:54 though i dont you'll be able to use it as is because they'll be a lot of SYSTEM_SERVICES that are only accessable by the system Sep 16 09:09:57 kamol: do you mean parents like "class parents" or in a navigation context Sep 16 09:10:15 danijoo: in navigation context Sep 16 09:10:45 not my manifest definition. but you can work arround it and define your own backstack Sep 16 09:11:12 meital: so basically copy that into a class file in your project, try and fix any inaccessable dependencies by removing them / editing them to something that is useful and accessable and voila you have it Sep 16 09:13:00 lasserix: thanks, I'll try that! Sep 16 09:13:09 danijoo: clear, thank you Sep 16 09:16:18 hi Sep 16 09:16:28 im trying to fit a webpage into a WebView Sep 16 09:16:56 of course i already found the 10000 SO-threads about it -- but still i have no luck, the website is always wider then the screen-width Sep 16 09:17:37 for me it looks like as it was the correct width in case the side is displayed in landscape mode, but i want it to fit in portrait oriantation. any ideas? Sep 16 09:21:04 thana: can you share your layout where you use webview? Sep 16 09:21:59 danijoo: do you have how to send bundle data into parent activty? Sep 16 09:22:02 kamol: layout is a good point. i just remembered i use the webview without any layout (its a fullscren app, so i though i dont need one). i will have a look how it looks like if i embed it into a layout Sep 16 09:22:05 I suspect it´s not much to do with WebView, more with the javascript/html, have you tried opening the page in your stockbrowser if you´re running Android versions below KitKat and otherwise in Chrome Sep 16 09:22:33 kamol: you cant send bundles backwards unless you use openActivityForResult Sep 16 09:24:22 danijoo: Activity B is parent of A, when I close A, I need to open B with some bundle… so you recommend openActivityForResult? Sep 16 09:24:40 no Sep 16 09:25:24 what about onPause() { if(isFinishing) // do your stuff to open B } Sep 16 09:26:50 danijoo: oh, it is intersting Sep 16 09:27:33 danijoo: let me try Sep 16 09:33:48 danijoo: hahaha, it works, but… in my case I have A, B, C… so C is not there… Should I do onPause() {isFinishing} in B too? :) Sep 16 09:34:08 I think what you are doing is bad Sep 16 09:34:35 what do you actually want? if your workflow is A -> B -> C and user presses back in C, he will land at B and you have to do nothing Sep 16 09:35:25 kamol just use a singleton Sep 16 09:35:35 subclass application class Sep 16 09:35:40 put a hashmap Sep 16 09:35:49 key is the activity name, value is whatever bundle you need Sep 16 09:36:44 danijoo: yeah it is bad Sep 16 09:36:55 Im having issues to get GoogleMap from a fragment, Im using Fragment gMapsFragment = getFragmentManager().findFragmentById(R.id.map); casting that to GoogleMap and then trying to call .getMap() is not working Sep 16 09:37:05 any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Sep 16 09:37:15 kamol: http://paste.debian.net/121123/ still no luck with this layout :( Sep 16 09:37:38 lasserix: let me think how to use it, I am still processing your suggesion Sep 16 09:38:18 kamol, basically each of your activity has access to this singleton (initialize it in application class) Sep 16 09:38:25 thana, have you opened your webpage in the browser on the phone/emulator you're testing on, does the webpage scale properly there? Sep 16 09:38:39 when a transition happens, ie a->b a dumps bundle into the hashmap with key of b and value of the bundle Sep 16 09:38:46 VnM: i did it: no it looks pretty much the same Sep 16 09:38:53 then when b starts, it grabs the bundle out of the hashmap Sep 16 09:39:13 rinse and repeat for the rest Sep 16 09:39:24 thana, then I doubt your issue will be resolved by changing things natively, you will probably have to alter the html/css if you have access to that Sep 16 09:39:30 thana: can you share your URL? Sep 16 09:40:45 VnM: i already tried several different viewport-settings (html wise). it always resulted in either far too wide rendering, or a much too small one Sep 16 09:41:04 lasserix: what you are saying, I can do with EvenBus or it will be overkill? Sep 16 09:41:25 kamol: why dont you use the default activity flow of android ? Sep 16 09:42:13 kamol: im sorry i cant Sep 16 09:42:34 danijoo: becasaue, I am idiot. I have notification widget which need to open Chat Acitivty (C). However, C’s parent B and B’s parent is A. Sep 16 09:42:58 kamol if you already have event bus sure that's what its for Sep 16 09:43:06 thana: I suspect something to do with your JS/HTML Sep 16 09:43:14 kamol add activity B as native parent to C in manifest, same for A as prent of B Sep 16 09:43:18 and android will do the rest Sep 16 09:43:35 read http://developer.android.com/training/implementing-navigation/ancestral.html Sep 16 09:43:39 I'm not familiar enough with html/js scaling to help you out with that, there are probably some stackoverflow threads to be found about scaling your website for mobile apps thana , otherwise maybe people in ##javascript or #html5 can help you out Sep 16 09:43:57 danijoo: I did, but I still need pass some parameters with bundle (or whatever) Sep 16 09:44:03 VnM: kamol: OK thank you :) Sep 16 09:44:27 kamol Sep 16 09:44:32 you can also use sharedprefences Sep 16 09:44:39 makes itmuch easier Sep 16 09:44:58 you can add bundles with taskstackbuilder Sep 16 09:44:59 just dump your bundle into shared preferences with the name as the thing Sep 16 09:45:11 read the documentation on that class (which is mentioned in my link) Sep 16 09:45:25 it has a function to add intents (with bundles) manually Sep 16 09:46:29 lasserix: I might go with EventBus, thus shareprefrances can be very slow on my old android phone due to the disk speed Sep 16 09:46:41 kamol: ahh yeah Sep 16 09:47:07 eventbus might be overkill if you are not already using it Sep 16 09:47:23 danijoo: thank you for your suggestion, I will go with lasserix: suggestion with EventBus, more modulo I guess Sep 16 09:47:45 in your face danijoo! Sep 16 09:47:46 ;p Sep 16 09:47:57 (even tho you make the better advice) Sep 16 09:48:02 lasserix: yeah, but I am already using it anyway. thank you guys Sep 16 09:48:08 if you think its easier to impement a library and make a workaround instead of using the native tools android is giving you .. :) good luck! Sep 16 09:48:15 ^^ Sep 16 09:51:54 i’m trying to make a gear icon with drawing code… how can i shift the position of a rect to a position around the perimeter of a circle? Sep 16 09:52:00 danijoo: I think it is more flexible (modulo). It doesn’t matter how deep can go (A->B->C->D) no matter it is activity or fragment. Let me try I will be back to you with my feedback. I really appreciate your advices btw. Thank you! Sep 16 09:52:07 i figured out canvas.save, rotate, and restore Sep 16 09:52:57 translate Sep 16 09:53:08 i thought so, i’ve been kind of looking into that Sep 16 09:53:24 as pointless as this whole concept sounds like Sep 16 09:53:46 I would just use a PNG or at least construct an XML drawable Sep 16 10:10:42 got it :D Sep 16 10:11:12 any one can recommend some GUI software for Android app software design? So, just looking at drawing you can recall your entire app design and structure? Sep 16 10:11:49 im using pen and paper :) Sep 16 10:11:57 code, here Sep 16 10:15:26 danijoo: hahaha :) me too, but loosing my notes :( Sep 16 10:16:04 kamol: have a look at pencil (software) Sep 16 10:16:32 http://developer.android.com/training/implementing-navigation/ancestral.html Sep 16 10:16:38 ups wrong link Sep 16 10:16:49 http://pencil.evolus.vn/ Sep 16 10:19:53 danijoo: hm… nice :) Sep 16 10:21:14 danijoo: thank you! Sep 16 10:58:15 hello Sep 16 10:58:26 anybody have worked on report generation Sep 16 10:58:54 as i need to generate .doc report through my mobile is it possible using some opensource library Sep 16 11:00:26 isnt .doc a licensed format of microsoft and cant be used without you paying them? Sep 16 11:02:25 jasper reports can generate doc files i believe but you probably have to make a service Sep 16 11:52:16 is there something like Phonegap but that allows me to write the app in c#? Sep 16 11:55:57 Donguston: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=can+I+write+my+android+app+in+c%23 Sep 16 11:56:42 Xamarin Sep 16 11:58:43 sorry for this newbie question but is it normal for eclipse or android avd to crash too often on Linux? Sep 16 12:05:11 no Sep 16 12:08:41 danijoo: I get java error even though I have openjdk 7 installed Sep 16 12:10:16 sandman13: you shoud use oracleJDK. There are often problems with openjdk and AS Sep 16 12:10:59 when I set my viewpager .setOffScreenPageLimit(x) does it load those pages when the activity holding the viewpager is cfreated? Sep 16 12:11:54 danijoo: hmm let me try it :D Sep 16 12:17:21 rgr, why do you use duck duck go? Sep 16 12:17:35 rofl Sep 16 12:17:38 emacs Sep 16 12:17:39 as well Sep 16 12:17:50 do you spend a lot of money on tin foil? Sep 16 12:18:25 lol Sep 16 12:20:27 Donguston: you know how expensive tin foil is now that the aluminum order has taken over!? Sep 16 12:24:31 what is a ZoomButton supposed to do? Sep 16 12:25:13 Donguston: Duck Duck go is actually pretty good Sep 16 12:27:32 hi all, I 'm trying to build a test project not from eclipse (until now I built it only with eclipse) - but I can't find any build.xml file in the project...How did eclipse built it? Sep 16 12:28:26 #eclipse ? Sep 16 12:32:51 Hello guys, I have a list adapter and there I download an image when needed using AsyncTask. The problem is, what technique to use if adapter is cleaned up because of configurarion change and AsyncTask wants to report back that it has finished downloading an image? Thank you. Sep 16 12:33:50