**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 18 03:00:00 2014 Sep 18 03:50:33 gradle 2.1 has some cool new stuff (1) Gradle Plugin Portal (2) incremental Java compilation (thought it had that already) and (3) improvents to allow cancelling a build Sep 18 03:50:48 3 <3 Sep 18 03:51:15 Why doesn't the SDK get included in APK files, if we're linking against it? Sep 18 03:51:18 now i only want more caching for andorid dexing Sep 18 03:52:01 drewbug because its on the phone :| Sep 18 03:52:13 like android.jar ? Sep 18 03:52:15 g00s: Yeah, but, how does the compiler know that? Sep 18 03:52:16 Yeah. Sep 18 03:52:29 its a 'provided' dependency Sep 18 03:52:39 regardless of tool, there will be some notion of this Sep 18 03:53:35 g00s: Thank you so much! Sep 18 03:53:49 g00s: I've been trying to understand that for a while, but couldn't figure out the right search terms. Sep 18 03:54:56 yw Sep 18 04:05:45 it's the bootclasspath Sep 18 04:06:22 for the JVM it's normally rt.jar Sep 18 04:06:31 is it bad i take pleasure on /r/androiddev when you absolutely shut people down JakeWharton ? Sep 18 04:06:59 e.g the weakreference listener anonymous classes guy Sep 18 04:07:30 oh, yeah. i don't know wtf that was. Sep 18 04:07:50 honestly that subreddit is pretty trash. Sep 18 04:08:05 that was java Sep 18 04:08:15 oh Sep 18 04:08:23 yeah i multi reddit java and android and some others Sep 18 04:08:24 my bad Sep 18 04:08:38 how does that work? Sep 18 04:08:51 i only browse on mobile when i'm bored Sep 18 04:09:02 bored = on the can ? Sep 18 04:09:05 example: http://www.reddit.com/r/java+androiddev Sep 18 04:09:17 OH SNAP Sep 18 04:09:24 RIGHT? Sep 18 04:10:14 some mobile apps support multireddit stoo Sep 18 04:10:18 s t* Sep 18 04:13:02 hey guys. I have a DrawerLayout in which the left-side drawer contains a fragment containing a ListView. for some reason, none of the content in this fragment responds to any touch events - dragging does not scroll, tapping does not result in a click event. the only thing that happens is if i tap anywhere on the open drawer, it closes. any idea why that is? Sep 18 04:13:47 how does that even work Sep 18 04:13:53 a fragment inside the drawer? Sep 18 04:14:00 why not just a listview Sep 18 04:14:14 set it clickable Sep 18 04:14:35 thats true i wasnt considering all use cases Sep 18 04:14:58 pfn, set what clickable? the listview? Sep 18 04:17:03 sure Sep 18 04:17:11 no dice Sep 18 04:17:11 or the containing fragment Sep 18 04:17:45 where can i find the recyclerview sources? Sep 18 04:17:56 having a hard time finding them… i see some unofficial sites... Sep 18 04:17:59 i had this working a few hours ago, no clickable flags needed to be set then. i've made a lot of changes so i was kind of hoping for a "this is what you did wrong" type of answer Sep 18 04:18:27 JacobTabak: the m2 repo in the sdk Sep 18 04:18:40 thanks Sep 18 04:19:08 hm Sep 18 04:19:24 http://cl.ly/image/1C0Y371F1T0b Sep 18 04:20:46 oh, found Sep 18 04:21:14 was in android not google Sep 18 04:21:32 ahh its all so much clearer now Sep 18 04:23:22 sigmabeta, diff your changes Sep 18 04:24:17 pfn, yeah, that's gonna be a boondoggle. lots of files changed, too many places to look. Sep 18 04:24:34 though i guess i'm looking at a boondoggle either way Sep 18 04:27:36 ok, figured out what the problem is, i’m trying to use smoothScrollBy() in an ontouchlistener. it works from a button, but not a touch listener -.- Sep 18 04:28:23 now need to figure out how to work around that, any suggestions appreciated Sep 18 04:28:36 maybe a scrollstate listener would work better Sep 18 04:40:55 AHA! Sep 18 04:41:20 happy now :P Sep 18 04:55:18 update: took the background drawable off the listview (just a flat white color) and realized that for one reason or another, the drawer content is being rendered *behind* the main content view. so i need to figure out why this is. Sep 18 04:58:32 update: I hate that this is the right answer, but in a DrawerLayout definition in XML, the content view must be defined *above* the drawer layout. ugh. Sep 18 04:58:43 z ordering Sep 18 04:58:49 yikes Sep 18 04:58:56 was gonna suggest that Sep 18 04:58:57 pfn, i would've never ever caught that among all the other changes i made Sep 18 04:59:27 well i was just stuck in 10 minutes of rxjava nested brackets issues Sep 18 04:59:30 sooo its not much better Sep 18 05:00:11 yeah i've been trying to fix this for like an hour Sep 18 05:00:20 got ya beat on the frustrate-o-meter buddy :) Sep 18 05:00:27 +1 for never doign it again tho right? Sep 18 05:00:53 6mos from now, you'll reorder that somehow and find stuff borking out on ya again Sep 18 05:01:14 "wtf, i remember this weird stuff a while back ..." Sep 18 05:01:28 g00s, I have a git commit saying why I did this now Sep 18 05:01:39 :) Sep 18 05:01:53 g00s, which i will make sure to ignore in 6 mos Sep 18 05:03:24 JacobTabak, that is literally what I said to rationalize why I shouldn't commit japanese samurai ritual suicide just now Sep 18 05:05:14 i remember back when android 4.0 cam out, google ran some automated script on the public facing defect tracker that closed all bugs, essentuially saying "a lot has changed, and we're not sure this is an issue so we're closing it" Sep 18 05:05:23 i hope they don't pull that shit when android 5 comes out Sep 18 05:07:37 pft, as if android 5 is ever comimg out :) Sep 18 05:08:58 i'm sure android oems are looking at all the iphone 6 getting sold, and L is not finalized yet ... Sep 18 05:09:14 yeah thats awkward Sep 18 05:09:37 its like htey’ll have nothing for I/O next year Sep 18 05:10:24 meanwhile Apple put up an Android to Iphone migration guide Sep 18 05:10:32 if iOS was made available (thinking about long long ago when it was the case with apple/mac) for other vendors to make handsets, would android still be alive after that ? Sep 18 05:11:08 humm i dunno, ios coding is still pretty f'ing painful Sep 18 05:11:25 bankai_au are you robovm'ing it though ? Sep 18 05:11:29 sure am! Sep 18 05:11:35 well duh! Sep 18 05:11:39 dunno, but the iReligion as such would definitely die Sep 18 05:11:40 released my first app the other day Sep 18 05:11:51 which might not be a bad thing Sep 18 05:13:32 I wonder though, why linger with L for so long Sep 18 05:14:05 linger? Sep 18 05:14:16 hi! :) Sep 18 05:14:28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Kspj3OO0s Sep 18 05:14:39 you think they're just playing in ball pits and sliding down slides and laughing at us all pining after L? Sep 18 05:15:09 no, I just wonder what's taking so long Sep 18 05:15:21 when using some components from a .jar library, will all the library be packed inside the .apk or just the components used? Sep 18 05:16:43 HunterD: all the library unless you do otherwise (e.g., use proguard) Sep 18 05:17:57 also, lol, pining, not a term I hear often, reminds me of Monty Python's "pining for the fjords" Sep 18 05:18:55 yeah, i'm not sure I understand that "taking so long" complaint. L is pretty much android's third do-over Sep 18 05:19:12 lollipop ! Sep 18 05:19:29 when it's gonna be out again ? Sep 18 05:19:50 fall Sep 18 05:19:57 & it was announced & previewed what, 3 months ago? smart money says probably released oct/nov-ish when they do their nexus refreshes Sep 18 05:20:06 how is that unreasonable Sep 18 05:20:15 a very likely possibility, and perfectly reasonable Sep 18 05:20:20 JakeWharton: october, november ? Sep 18 05:20:36 wanna get new nexus <3 Sep 18 05:20:48 and additionally it gives them 6 months until I/O, the normal time frame for minor releases over the past 4 years Sep 18 05:21:16 but who knows. and i don't care. just so long as it happens eventually. Sep 18 05:22:40 i'd rather they take their time Sep 18 05:22:55 I just would like to see the new nexus :) Sep 18 05:23:02 whoa, ok... I was just wondering, that's all. not like I'm actually waiting for it :) Sep 18 05:23:37 any news who's gonna make it ? Sep 18 05:24:00 hm HTC will make Flounder Sep 18 05:24:11 http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6-6604.php Sep 18 05:24:13 found this ? Sep 18 05:32:03 How can I get the SDK platform folder from build.gradle Sep 18 05:33:00 "Handles the all things SDK for the Gradle plugin. There is one instance per project, around a singleton" "com.android.builder.sdk.SdkLoader." Sep 18 05:33:12 Is there any way to access that? Sep 18 05:37:31 hmm, i can't remember Sep 18 05:37:46 the actual instance that the plugin is using? no Sep 18 05:37:51 from what i remember Sep 18 05:37:56 but you can also just create your own instance Sep 18 05:38:28 here's an example: https://gist.github.com/JakeWharton/e8a3685feb6a94b23393 Sep 18 05:38:54 JakeWharton: Hey, thanks! Sep 18 05:39:21 note: that's internal API that's subject to change and break at any time! Sep 18 05:40:16 Yay, my favorite! Sep 18 05:40:21 :) Sep 18 05:42:38 havent they say that api is gonna be stable from,,, beta ? Sep 18 05:43:11 they said the public API would be more stable Sep 18 05:43:19 and i am not using the public API Sep 18 05:43:33 a, sorry then Sep 18 05:52:58 Hi Guys I am using this library to convert an object to json - https://code.google.com/p/google-gson/ Sep 18 05:53:55 Arraylist object to json I mean Sep 18 05:54:18 the arraylist object has the email and name which are plenty say around 1000 - 5000 Sep 18 05:54:45 not when I convert gson.toJson(object) the data gets truncated Sep 18 05:55:07 how do you know it is truncated Sep 18 05:55:14 hi guys. i am looking to batch load 30 images and 30 comments into an arraylist that my user will then increment through. do i actually need to load the images into the arraylist or just the URLS? what is the best practice for doing so ? Sep 18 05:55:16 I am printing it in Log.d Sep 18 05:55:24 neo log.d is capped at 4000 characters Sep 18 05:55:25 and seeing Sep 18 05:55:36 ohhh :( Sep 18 05:55:43 write a custom log function that chunks it into 4000 char msgs Sep 18 05:55:53 okay trying that Sep 18 05:56:12 but does this function has a limit of characters to be converted to json Sep 18 05:56:19 only limited by memory Sep 18 05:56:22 I could not find any mention of this Sep 18 05:56:24 ohh Sep 18 05:56:25 okay Sep 18 05:56:30 trying this :) Sep 18 05:57:03 neo3: https://github.com/square/retrofit/blob/816e551ebcf76d4b31eca6b6439de02b2f9ccf32/retrofit/src/main/java/retrofit/android/AndroidLog.java Sep 18 05:57:54 Thanks JscobTabak :) Sep 18 06:02:28 anyone know of someting like https://github.com/OpenHFT/Java-Chronicle but compatible with android ? Sep 18 06:02:51 oh i guess its now https://github.com/OpenHFT/Chronicle-Queue Sep 18 06:03:21 they use some sun.misc.unsafe stuff which isn't available Sep 18 06:10:29 @jacobTabak : it is taking all emails, I checked by dividing the output to chunks Sep 18 06:10:42 (thumbsup) Sep 18 06:10:49 The data is above 150000 characters Sep 18 06:10:57 and I am sending it through httppost Sep 18 06:11:09 is HTTPpost having such limit Sep 18 06:11:27 you said it is taking all of them Sep 18 06:11:31 do you mean it is not? Sep 18 06:11:56 150,000 characters is not too much Sep 18 06:12:00 JakeWharton: Any idea how to get the *platform* folder, rather than the sdk folder? Sep 18 06:12:13 it is converting all the objects in arraylist to json by gson.tojson(obj) Sep 18 06:12:17 httppost.setEntity(new StringEntity(gson.toJson(mEmailsSelected))); Sep 18 06:12:22 sending it using this in http post Sep 18 06:12:35 so is httppost having a limit :P Sep 18 06:12:36 drewbug: you can get the runtime jar and look at the parent folder Sep 18 06:12:54 neo3: are you getting an exception? Sep 18 06:13:01 JakeWharton: How would I do that, if you don't mind? Sep 18 06:13:11 android.getBootClasspath() Sep 18 06:13:33 checking exception Sep 18 06:13:38 could new StringEntity could be a problem Sep 18 06:13:59 that's not a file but a classpath so you'd ahve to split on File.separator and then look at each element Sep 18 06:14:03 i think there should only be one though Sep 18 06:14:04 JakeWharton: That worked. You're super awesome. Sep 18 06:17:05 JacobTabak : No Exception Sep 18 06:17:19 so whats the problem? Sep 18 06:17:52 i saw your code. it was very... exceptional Sep 18 06:17:52 ie, why do you think something isnt working Sep 18 06:18:46 because there is no data recieved on server in request object Sep 18 06:19:01 however if I send only one email and name with same code Sep 18 06:19:06 it works cool and fine Sep 18 06:19:15 maybe your server has a limit on request size or timeout? Sep 18 06:19:56 checking Sep 18 06:30:51 What's the purpose of the "layoutlib.jar" file? Sep 18 06:31:01 I get that it's for the Eclipse plugin, but what does it actually do? Sep 18 06:36:06 layoutlib runs a subset of the android.view code on the JVM Sep 18 06:36:31 it's what allows rendering previews of your layouts in real-time on the JVM (e.g., inside Eclipse or IntelliJ) Sep 18 06:37:24 it knows how to parse the XML (like layout inflater) inflating your actual compiled code and render to whatever Java has as a Canvas substitute Sep 18 06:37:33 presumably something in Swing and/or AWT Sep 18 06:37:57 s/inflating/instantiating/ Sep 18 06:38:13 +commas Sep 18 06:38:13 Awesome. Thank you. Sep 18 06:39:16 JacobTabak : is it good to send long data like I am doing Sep 18 06:39:25 means am I sending it right way ? Sep 18 06:39:46 neo3: why are you sending so much data? Sep 18 06:40:00 I need to send Sep 18 06:40:17 you should gzip it probably Sep 18 06:40:53 http://developer.android.com/reference/java/util/zip/GZIPOutputStream.html Sep 18 06:42:26 why do you need to send so much tho/ where is it coming from Sep 18 07:08:38 does anybody know if samsung in-app purchases support autorenew (monthly/yearly/...)? Sep 18 07:08:54 the docs don't explicitly mention autorenew anywhere Sep 18 07:41:10 g00s: here? Sep 18 07:41:17 hey thepoosh Sep 18 07:41:28 going to bed in a moment Sep 18 07:42:09 is it possible that I get broadcasts from different locations because I used an IntentFilter of SMS_SENT and they have com.packagename.SMS_SENT? Sep 18 07:42:54 oh sorry, dunno Sep 18 07:43:15 i guess Intentfilter.match() ? Sep 18 07:43:19 hmmm Sep 18 07:43:22 will look into it Sep 18 07:43:32 I think we are getting fucked in production because of that Sep 18 07:45:58 thepoosh don't do that ! Sep 18 07:46:34 :) Sep 18 07:48:20 man I seem to have aproblem Sep 18 07:48:52 the aproblem is with animation a textview, I want it to move to the center of the screen and then increase in size by a factor of some proportion I have Sep 18 07:49:14 it's doing that, but only after it moves to a little BEFORE the center, and then seems to enlarge and finally sit at the center Sep 18 07:49:43 so it moves to 0 + 10, then back to zero, with full size enlarged Sep 18 08:01:06 Morning Friends.... i'm having a little problem, please help... i used holo.light theme but whenever i run my programme, it will generate error, i'm using 'com.android.support:appcompat-v7:19.+' please is there a way to change the support library Sep 18 08:10:17 because "reports an error" totally says it all Sep 18 08:28:12 i wish to use rxjava to monitor an edittext, when the text changes it should fire a networkrequest to fetch some data. Im not quite sure how to approach this, how do i let it 'wait' for new queries? Or rather, into what do i feed the string from onTextChanged() ? Sep 18 08:28:47 i think there should be some object on my activity that i feed these strings Sep 18 08:34:58 but how do i set up this Observable such that i can pass a string to it, at random moments? Sep 18 08:44:54 hi Sep 18 08:46:13 hey Sep 18 08:47:03 anyone using gradle on jenkins? I have a strange issue: from jenkins I setup a job with gradle script which fails due " Ambiguous method overloading for method java.io.File#" but if I run the gradlew from command line in the jenkins workspace project dir, it works ok Sep 18 08:49:18 i see from console output the same path of the gradlew with same arguments that I pass by command line, so it looks very strange to me. It should be this https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/106850 but from the shell side works Sep 18 09:15:32 hey guys! Sep 18 09:15:38 need some direction. Sep 18 09:15:43 I need to record h.264 video, but the source of this will be a stream of images, not the camera. Sep 18 09:15:48 I saw MediaRecorder, and confused as to what MediaSource.DEFAULT is as opposed to .CAMERA. Sep 18 09:15:54 any direction as to h264 encoding from a set of images would be hugely appreciated :) Sep 18 09:17:15 hey bro :) Sep 18 09:17:28 hey PSVilis Sep 18 09:17:31 :) Sep 18 09:17:34 oh hey :D Sep 18 09:17:47 PSvils, ok, so, the thing is, MediaRecorder is meant to just interface with camera hardware and other such hardware Sep 18 09:17:52 so you can't use it to do what you want Sep 18 09:17:58 you'll have to use MediaCodec APIs Sep 18 09:18:02 had to make sure I'm in the right chanel :) Sep 18 09:18:11 Hello. Can anyone tell me when I should use applicationId when defining specific flavors in the gradle? Sep 18 09:18:24 PSvils, sadly, it's not the most documented and elegant API out there Sep 18 09:18:27 but this should help alot: https://github.com/google/grafika Sep 18 09:18:31 alright :) Sep 18 09:18:35 And when i should use packageName instead. Sep 18 09:18:36 will start by checking that out Sep 18 09:19:21 Mavrik: from what you know, should it be relatively easy to squish a series of jpegs inside an avi/h264 container? :) Sep 18 09:19:46 well, "relativfely" Sep 18 09:19:51 :D Sep 18 09:20:09 you'll have to do jpeg -> colorspace conversion -> mediacodec (to encode to H.264) -> muxer (to mux into mp4 or whatnot) Sep 18 09:20:22 aha, ok! Sep 18 09:21:03 Hello friends.. please how can i blur image Sep 18 09:21:13 lastly...MediaCodec is able to encode to h264 then yea? :) Sep 18 09:21:21 I've been getting confused when googling this stuff. Sep 18 09:21:28 PSvils, yes, mediacodec is the interface to hardware encoder on device Sep 18 09:21:33 perfecto :) Sep 18 09:21:35 H.264 is something you have on the device Sep 18 09:21:52 PSvils, just note that it's only available since 4.1 and reliable since 4.2 or so :) Sep 18 09:22:02 well that changes things :D Sep 18 09:22:06 other option is using ffmpeg or something, but that will burn CPU instead of HW encoder Sep 18 09:22:10 but it's way more compatible :) Sep 18 09:22:26 okay, yeah, ffmpeg was the first option I looked into :) Sep 18 09:22:31 thanks for the heads up eh! Sep 18 09:25:35 hackable: have you tried google ? Sep 18 09:25:38 http://www.jhlabs.com/ip/blurring.html Sep 18 09:26:03 there's even a renderscript intrisic Sep 18 09:28:19 does anyone see a problem with this view animation? http://pastebin.com/Nr67n7aJ Sep 18 09:28:32 i have another one that’s almost identical, and it works fine… this one doesn’t animate, it just jumps into place Sep 18 09:31:27 Mavrik: what did you mean by unstable regarding MediaCodec on Jellybean? :) Can't find good sources on that. Sep 18 09:31:50 there's some issues with supported color spaces (when decoding) and some other things like that Sep 18 09:31:53 also no MP4 muxer IRIC Sep 18 09:31:55 *IIRC Sep 18 09:32:13 ah okay, but when it comes to encoding it should be okay? sorry to bug you so much :/ Sep 18 09:32:48 GrecKo: yes... i've try google but there's alot of stuff their... thinking on which one to use to blur the image Sep 18 09:33:05 have you read my link ? Sep 18 09:33:18 try them all and decide for yourself? Sep 18 09:33:46 Is tehre any difference using Application as static or with getApplication() Sep 18 09:34:14 that would depend highly on the specifics of your "static" usage Sep 18 09:34:38 Hello friends.. please how can i blur image Sep 18 09:35:08 thinking of renderscript... !! Sep 18 09:35:29 wow, did you just ask the exact same question after already been given answers? Sep 18 09:35:33 good grief Sep 18 09:36:27 he asked that same question yesterdey when I was leaving work Sep 18 09:37:34 obviously he thinks this channel is here to deal with his laziness Sep 18 09:37:41 not the first time he's doing this either Sep 18 09:38:53 now there's a thought: http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/14/sidewalk-lane-china/ Sep 18 09:39:10 PSvils, I haven't actually used it in production so I don't really know :/ Sep 18 09:42:34 Mavrik: hopefully I'll find out then :) Sep 18 09:57:42 Anyone here used Koush's AndroidAsync? Sep 18 10:01:00 any specific question or issue? Sep 18 10:02:51 I'm using AsyncHttpServer to serve up an audio file and an image to Chromecast Sep 18 10:02:57 Recent changes in ChromeCast Sep 18 10:03:53 Have caused an issue where it seems the url for the image is cached, and so when songs change and a new image needs to be hosted - it's not recognising the need to update the artwork, since the url remains the same Sep 18 10:04:56 have a random url? lol Sep 18 10:05:11 /image.jpg?whatever=364521376 Sep 18 10:05:31 so usually, I call HttpAsyncserver.get("/image", myserverCallback"), and it's sufficient, because "/image" is the path Sep 18 10:05:51 But now, I want to pass something like you've said above, "image/somerandomnumbers" Sep 18 10:06:15 Hi, I have a Service register a BroadcastReceiver, which starts an IntentService. When the Receiver kills the Service after starting the IntentService will the IntentService work independent cause it has its own Thread, or will it also be killed? Sep 18 10:06:19 But because my AsyncHttpServer callback is only 'listening' for "/image", the Callback isn't called Sep 18 10:06:41 can you register for /image/* ? Sep 18 10:06:48 I tried that Sep 18 10:06:58 So yeah, now we're caught up to the crux of the issue Sep 18 10:07:15 Even though it takes a regex, the callback isn't called if I pass in a wildcard Sep 18 10:07:27 so it does take a regex? Sep 18 10:07:33 in that case, /image/.* Sep 18 10:07:35 I'm out of my depth with this terminology, so sorry for the shitty explanation Sep 18 10:07:52 Yeah it does. So what does the period do there? Sep 18 10:08:09 google it? Sep 18 10:08:17 OK lol Sep 18 10:08:20 regex syntax has been fairly stable for many years now :p Sep 18 10:09:41 So, would you save me the trouble and just briefly tell me what the difference is between * and .* Sep 18 10:09:59 they are the same thing Sep 18 10:10:09 "*" is shell glob syntax, ".*" is regex syntax Sep 18 10:10:17 Oh, OK Sep 18 10:11:08 I'm extremely unfamiliar with regex etc. But I always assumed the ',' was related to the extension Sep 18 10:11:25 '.' * Sep 18 10:11:29 byt89, not sure I follow, but a thread cannot exist outside some context Sep 18 10:11:45 timusus, that's why the former is called "shell glob", which has nothing to do with regexes Sep 18 10:11:51 regexes have no concept of file names or extensions Sep 18 10:12:43 OK. Well, I really appreciate your help. I didn't know where else to go! Sep 18 10:12:52 but seriously, best way to get familiar is to just google and read, this channel is not inteded to be a substitute for your own reading ;) Sep 18 10:13:17 Weird thing about this channel is it's always assumed that that's what goes on Sep 18 10:13:20 for this specific case, .* should work; for any other regex issues, google is the way :p Sep 18 10:13:39 I've figuratively googles my ass off for the last couple of hours Sep 18 10:13:43 googled* Sep 18 10:13:56 So this channel is a last resort for me Sep 18 10:14:15 couldn't find any regex tutorials? :p Sep 18 10:14:18 But it always comes through! Thanks again - looks like it's working Sep 18 10:14:27 it is often the case though, so can't really blame the channel Sep 18 10:14:33 I wasn't looking for regex tutorials. I wasn't even sure regex was the way to go Sep 18 10:14:40 lol, ok Sep 18 10:14:44 please, how can i reload a website programmatically Sep 18 10:14:44 well anyway, glad it worked Sep 18 10:15:32 I was trying to figure out if it's bad to add a new HttpServerRequest each time I loaded a new image (and assumed it was), trying to figure out if wildcards were even allowed in the method, trying to understand what the hell regex even means Sep 18 10:15:53 I see Sep 18 10:16:01 you seem exceptionally fresh to all this Sep 18 10:16:03 no wonder Sep 18 10:16:26 So I actually did get into a bit of regex in my searches, but I mean, I wasn't going to spend 6 hours or so becoming a regex expert to discover that I just needed to put a period in front of my wildcard Sep 18 10:16:51 I don't know.. I've been doing Android dev for about 2 years. But always as a hobby, and I'm self taught with no prior programming knowledge. Sep 18 10:17:02 I know almost nothing outside of Android/Java unfortuunately. Sep 18 10:17:15 But I'm getting there.. And when I need to know more about regex, I'll be head down in some tutorials. Sep 18 10:17:53 android/java has very good regex support, so time to dig in, or else you can't say you know the platform well :p Sep 18 10:18:28 * ravilov is self-taught too, but has by now vast experience in various shell and unix related stuff, hence the intimate knowledge of regexes Sep 18 10:18:33 timusus: http://xkcd.com/1171/ Sep 18 10:18:41 hey there, has anybody experiences with icon fonts not getting loaded in a webview if a custom user agent is set? (talking pre 4.4 webviews, the chrome ohne works well) Sep 18 10:19:00 Yeah, fair enough. I'm not gonna argue with that, you sound like you've got plenty of experience on me. Sep 18 10:19:46 timusus, it's okay, sooner or later you'll inevitably have to dig into this stuff, it's a good thing you seem ready for it instead of trying to avoid it Sep 18 10:19:52 But.. you can only learn so much in one sitting! Now I know that regex is something I need to look into Sep 18 10:19:58 Yeah, exactly. Sep 18 10:20:36 I'm not someone who would usually go for the quick fix and forget about it. I just had no idea if I was even heading in the right direction. Sep 18 10:20:44 And holy shit did you answer my question quickly. Sep 18 10:21:09 as soon as you mentioned it supports regexes, for me the answer was right there in plain sight ;) Sep 18 10:21:19 Haha. Well, I do really appreciate it. Sep 18 10:24:37 so today I discovered that android textview has coloured glyphs and that it sucks with arbitrary background colours ;) Sep 18 10:24:55 http://eclipser.xmms2.org/asdf.png vs http://eclipser.xmms2.org/asdf2.png Sep 18 10:26:07 Hello, Could someone help me with the following please? =] I am trying to use AIDL between a Service and Client app, I can get the service to bind and am getting the ServiceConnected event (after a min delay though), but when I try and pass data from the Service to the Client via a Callback Interface I get a NullPointerException. Sep 18 10:26:21 Here is a breakdown on whats happening: http://pastebin.com/F8J4MVTz Sep 18 10:26:22 Zharf, I'm guessing that's why glyphs have contrasty borders, so they would work reasonably well with any background... but of course, within reason Sep 18 10:28:03 ravilov, yeah, the finger's a good example of that, but the office building just sucks :) Sep 18 10:28:27 SkAzZ, I just get the service object from the connection and then use that to call arbitrary functions in the service which can return any kind of data :) Sep 18 10:28:42 is the service yours or is it 3rd-party? Sep 18 10:29:02 The service is mine but the client is going to be third party eventually Sep 18 10:30:20 then dunno, I'd say do it the way I suggested if you have control over both ends Sep 18 10:30:23 seems the simplest Sep 18 10:37:55 ravilov: Thanks for the info =] I do however want to keep the Service AIDL separate from the Client Callback because the functions are Asynchronous, I just can't figure out why the Callback interface cannot read the data from the parcel... Sep 18 10:38:00 Do I have to do anything with Intent's or Intent Filters for the client callback? I am just implementing the Callback Stub and sending the instance to the Service. Sep 18 10:39:16 Anyone knows how I can make a specific build flavor not include a class? Or perhaps it won't be included into the APK if I don't use the class ? Sep 18 10:41:40 hi everyone Sep 18 10:42:18 is it possible to have (in an xml layout) a viewpager inside of a drawerlayout? Sep 18 10:42:49 sorry this is very fundamental, but when i do this: Point newOffset = gridOffset;, then change a value for newOffset, does gridOffset change? vice versa? Sep 18 10:43:08 yes it does Sep 18 10:43:17 also yes, this is very fundamental - look up references in java Sep 18 10:43:27 yeah will do, thanks Sep 18 10:43:47 it doesn’t seem to behave like that in obj-c Sep 18 10:43:48 SkAzZ, no idea, I've never done it this way, sorry Sep 18 10:44:13 ultra-, pretty sure it doesn't work that way in python or perl either, what's your point? :p Sep 18 10:44:42 i guess my point is that it’s hard to remember these differences between languages… this project also uses python :) Sep 18 10:45:08 keep a cheatsheet nearby :p Sep 18 10:45:28 i should get some of that chalkboard paint for the walls Sep 18 10:46:04 schematics on one wall, code stuff on another Sep 18 10:47:35 at least it'd be easy to tell which room is yours Sep 18 10:48:24 yeah if the playroom for my 10 year old had code all over the walls, i’d start planning an earlier retirement Sep 18 10:50:46 I can see that happening though (code in his room), evenyually you'll run out of wall room, and then what? Sep 18 10:50:54 so when i make an assignment like that and the variable i assigned it from goes out of scope, it just holds the value? Sep 18 10:51:08 well i guess i’ll just buy him a computer then, and retire Sep 18 10:51:36 java is reference-based language, so long as there's some variable in scope, the value is retained Sep 18 10:51:47 gotcha Sep 18 10:52:11 this is also exactly how GC works, when an object drops out of scope, it is marked as a GC candidate Sep 18 10:53:55 but the one that goes out of scope won’t overwrite later and change the value of one kept, right? Sep 18 10:54:10 i think C works that way… it’s been a while since i used C though Sep 18 10:54:28 i’m sure i’d have seen some junk values by now if it worked that way Sep 18 10:56:17 if you've used C before, just think pointers, it's pretty much equivalent for all (or most) intets and purposes Sep 18 10:57:11 ok Sep 18 10:57:33 used C plenty for microcontrollers, it’s been about two years but i kind of remember Sep 18 10:57:51 too much to learn, but i just took a new job and now i’ll have more time :) Sep 18 10:58:11 sounds kind of backwards Sep 18 10:58:48 not at all, i’ve been a cable technician for 13 years and that job will consume your life Sep 18 10:59:03 i’m not a professional programmer, unless you count selling a few ios/android apps Sep 18 10:59:53