**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 22 03:00:00 2014 Sep 22 03:05:07 anyone online? Sep 22 03:05:15 yup Sep 22 03:05:15 with android wear experience? Sep 22 03:06:41 I'm trying to send data to the watch but it only gets sent once Sep 22 03:08:26 I tried using the listener interface, but I could only see the data as a byte[], not a map Sep 22 03:13:34 k... not very clear on what you're trying Sep 22 03:13:45 I'll make an assumption first Sep 22 03:13:58 https://github.com/jab416171/WearTesting/blob/master/wear/src/main/java/me/joebass/weartesting/MyActivity.java#L55-L61 Sep 22 03:13:58 this is where I put the data in: https://github.com/jab416171/WearTesting/blob/master/mobile/src/main/java/me/joebass/weartesting/MyActivity.java#L165 Sep 22 03:14:00 did you use DataMap.fromByteArray(evt.getData()) Sep 22 03:14:46 I haven't tried that Sep 22 03:15:12 this will be in your ListenerService (on the wear side) Sep 22 03:15:48 https://developer.android.com/reference/com/google/android/gms/wearable/WearableListenerService.html Sep 22 03:16:10 the assumption was that you were trying to receive this on the wearable side, correct? Sep 22 03:16:21 yes Sep 22 03:16:56 Yeah, create an Activity that extends the above class Sep 22 03:17:31 it has onMessageReceived(MessageEvent evt) Sep 22 03:19:11 perfect, thanks Sep 22 03:37:33 can some one help me understand "Project Structure..." dialog in Android Studio ??? Sep 22 03:38:59 t2mkn it's a dialog, that … shows and relates to project structure :) Sep 22 03:39:25 if you have a question ask, but dont ask for 1 on 1 tutorials/training, no1 is likely to answer Sep 22 03:40:14 <[R]> lol Sep 22 03:41:10 StingRay_: i have lots of question from this dialog. not getting all as what is what Sep 22 03:42:02 thats good, can you not find the answers on google ? Sep 22 03:42:44 not all or if found bit confused on them Sep 22 03:43:01 well, don't ask for 1 on 1 tutoring …start by asking a question that has an answer Sep 22 03:43:10 maybe someone will answer you :) Sep 22 03:43:28 or point you to google in what search terms you are missing Sep 22 03:44:47 Project Structure > app > Properties > Incremental Dex, Source Compatibility and Target Compatibility. what are these used for? Sep 22 03:45:59 http://bit.ly/XUYD8G Sep 22 03:46:07 whats the problem with that ? Sep 22 03:47:07 from the questions being asked, you can probably figure it out :) and what it relates to Sep 22 03:48:03 that i had searched for, and still confused. what is incremental dex :( Sep 22 03:49:29 goooooooglllllllle Sep 22 03:50:12 or ignore it until you know why it matters ;) Sep 22 03:50:40 capella-s3 that probably is the best line of advice I have heard this year! Sep 22 03:50:58 its my approach :D Sep 22 03:51:49 googleing googleing ... but not getting ... Sep 22 03:53:51 t2mkn is there a problem ? or is the problem that you do not know "every" little option in AS/IJ ? Cause I think most will suffer that one Sep 22 03:54:15 if there is no current problems just forget it … learn about it when it's relevant Sep 22 03:56:34 ya thats true. but the issue is m migrating an existing project in eclipse to android studio, which is not created by me :P and things are different here. so i need to know all, before it affects 40k existing users worldwide Sep 22 03:57:13 i had this weird bug, i used a different app and when it tried to go back to my app then it was requiring an activity that wasnt even initialized Sep 22 03:57:15 spooky Sep 22 03:57:39 t2mkn and how is you not knowing that option affecting users ? Sep 22 03:58:42 t2mkn not being funny btw, just dont think every AS/Gradle option is that relevent to end users Sep 22 03:59:54 dont push the red button! Sep 22 04:00:09 true, but is there any please found in google where i can know about the optioins present in project structure dialog. some kind of explaination or tutorial. Sep 22 04:00:10 * pifon pushes red button Sep 22 04:00:43 t2mkn s app just exploded Sep 22 04:01:08 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html#isInteractive%28%29 Sep 22 04:01:10 "When this method returns false, the device is dozing or asleep and must be awoken before it will become ready to interact with the user again." Sep 22 04:01:24 40000 users... oh the humanity Sep 22 04:01:29 "the device is still considered to be interactive while dreaming (since dreams can be interactive) but not when it is dozing or asleep." Sep 22 04:01:41 "dreaming"? "dozing"? Weird. Sep 22 04:01:50 Future, here we come. Sep 22 04:02:04 "dream" is a bit like a screensaver Sep 22 04:02:26 never seen it in my experience, probably because I don't have a nice enough charging dock ;) Sep 22 04:02:55 funny ... I wrote a patch today that required PowerManaer.isScreenOn() Sep 22 04:03:56 p_l: That makes sense. Huh. Sep 22 04:03:57 capella: For what? Sep 22 04:04:04 40k and app is not updated for last 9 months. not working properly in latest android versions :) users asking for update. any ways will help myself some way. Sep 22 04:05:47 drewbug: we have robotium tests for firefox for android ... when run locally by a dev the test dies if the screen has gone to sleep ... I added a check to display a useful message Sep 22 04:07:00 in android studio I am trying to create a new package under my java folder. I am trying to name it com.alex.camera. but it creates com and then alex under that and then camera under that. Will it always do this when I use . notation in my package titles? Sep 22 04:07:18 capella: Cool. Sep 22 04:07:54 anyone have tutorial how to create puzzle on android? Sep 22 04:07:57 heh - it helps new contributors avoid one of the usual traps :) Sep 22 04:08:05 i use ide eclipse Sep 22 04:08:15 "Why doesn't my test run?" Sep 22 04:08:19 bilb_ono: that's how the dir structure works, yes Sep 22 04:08:28 i have search on google but no one good, i confused... Sep 22 04:12:19 capella: My dev phone's setup to never turn the screen off, but I should probably change that, as I've been forgetting to plug it in. Sep 22 04:12:27 owh ya how hide my ip? :D Sep 22 04:12:39 anyone can help me :3 Sep 22 04:12:58 sorry wrong post Sep 22 04:13:45 i want to create puzzle android, maybe anyone can help me to give me tutorial link? Sep 22 04:14:48 google.com Sep 22 04:14:51 Does anyone have any tips for working with private APIs? Aside from "don't use private APIs" ;) Sep 22 04:15:14 drewbug: what about them ? Sep 22 04:15:34 <[R]> drewbug: don't use them Sep 22 04:15:54 bankai_: yeah i have searched, but no one good... when you don't believe me you can try it's :'( i'm newbi anyone help me Sep 22 04:16:07 [R]: Grr. Sep 22 04:16:41 bankai_: I guess I'm just wondering if there's anything even remotely related to "best practices". Sep 22 04:16:58 <[R]> drewbug: the best practice is not to use it Sep 22 04:17:10 Yeah. I get that. Sep 22 04:17:53 nice, so what's the question then ? Sep 22 04:18:16 Sometimes, you can use them to do things that you CAN'T do without them. Sep 22 04:18:43 I've tried testing it on a bunch of different versions, and as many devices as I've been able to get my hands on. Sep 22 04:26:28 "#android-dev: Exercise caution or you may be treated like a cat-toy" Sep 22 04:26:47 or dog Sep 22 04:27:39 named Jake! Sep 22 04:30:31 I get confused by the package name and file structure of java. like com.package.filename and where it might be in the file system and how other files might require it. What is a good keyword for me to google on the subject Sep 22 04:32:12 <[R]> bilb_ono: um... theres tons of documentation on how to write java when you have no clue what you are doing Sep 22 04:32:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classpath_(Java) packages Sep 22 04:37:53 t2mkn the project structure dialog is a shit stain Sep 22 04:38:50 don't feel bad if you don't know what any particular entry box means. i recommend just forgetting about it altogether, and making your changes in the gradle DSL Sep 22 04:39:13 g00s: it should provide some tool tips as to what is what. or atlist some details somewhere. Sep 22 04:39:30 g00s: thats what m doing right now. Sep 22 04:39:49 t2mkn whoever worked on that IDE feature, doesn't know shit about form design / usability Sep 22 04:40:38 drewbug you asked much earlier, but from what i can tell youonly get the first advertised packer per scan Sep 22 04:40:53 at least on the n4 and n7 , who the hell knows on other devices Sep 22 04:41:06 google like to keep us on our toes by not docuemting how their apis work Sep 22 04:41:21 Hello Sep 22 04:41:57 Do any of you have a good way of handling fragments? Seems like something that could use a library or something like that. Sep 22 04:42:28 what is the min sdk level for youtube's api? Can't seem to google relevant info. Sep 22 04:42:39 RedWraith whats wrong with fragmentManager ? Sep 22 04:42:57 and if it were a good idea for a library, there would be a few :) Sep 22 04:43:19 RedWraith if you don't like fragments some have tried square mortar and flow Sep 22 04:43:19 StingRay_, I've used it in the past and for anything but the simplest cases you have to fudge with it a lot. Sep 22 04:43:28 [R], I appreciate your constructive critisism. Any documentation that you would recommend? Sep 22 04:43:38 does anyone really like fragments? Sep 22 04:43:45 you either tolerate them or not Sep 22 04:43:53 <[R]> bilb_ono: theres like billions of books on the subject Sep 22 04:43:55 i want to speak to the people who like them Sep 22 04:44:29 g00s: Thanks for getting back to me on that. I found the same thing. Super fun. Went deep into the Bluedroid code. Meh. Sep 22 04:44:52 [R], ok Sep 22 04:44:56 drewbug BT apis are a minefield :) Sep 22 04:45:08 JakeWharton I like them though lack of knowledge about anything else Sep 22 04:45:21 g00s, I'm looking at those then. Sep 22 04:45:44 g00s: Looking forward to exploding and dying. Sep 22 04:46:24 JakeWharton, they're something that was designed ok - they aren't terrible like intents or something (no callbacks, really?) - so most developers tolerate them. They just aren't enjoyable to use. Sep 22 04:46:51 Speaking of which, how do you folks handle intent callbacks? That whole business with the unique identifiers and passing them to fragments really screws up encapsulation. Sep 22 04:46:55 i completely disagree. fragments have a terrible design and intents are amazing Sep 22 04:46:57 drewbug the 3 main caveats i have found *this far* : (1) as i mentioned above, per scan only the first packet is delivered (2) gatt callbacks are on another thread (not documented) (3) don't try to read/write multiple attributes at a time, you need to serialize this somehow Sep 22 04:47:17 Intents are a great idea - just the lack of callbacks is very painful. Sep 22 04:47:25 drewbug if you find any more , let me know :D Sep 22 04:47:57 g00s: Thanks :) Will do. Sep 22 04:48:16 callbacks wouldn't work in the task-based system of Android Sep 22 04:48:20 presumably we're talking about BLE so. now i would like to know if they will add support for 4.1 connection oriented channels Sep 22 04:48:39 besides, you can fake callbacks very easily Sep 22 04:49:06 singleton object that takes listeners and sends onActivityResult out (optionally filtering) Sep 22 04:49:17 onActivityResult *is* a callback, afterall Sep 22 04:49:21 I'm going to do that on my current project actually. Sep 22 04:49:23 Exactly. Sep 22 04:49:39 it just becomes weird when i leave your app via an intent but return another way Sep 22 04:50:13 That's...an interesting edge case. I'm going to see what happens when I do that on my previous app. Sep 22 04:50:52 It opens up the intent. :) Sep 22 04:50:55 leave via an intent, press home, open another app, click something that fires an intent to open your app Sep 22 04:51:21 ah, I'll have to send a notification for that. Sep 22 04:52:08 I imagine it's a fairly easy to handle edge case though, since your entry point is different when your app is opened through an intent - but it's not something most people think about. Sep 22 04:52:33 JakeWharton, do you use fragments? Sep 22 04:52:37 no Sep 22 04:53:04 Mortar and Flow? Sep 22 04:54:28 Just reading about those on the corner blog thing on square Sep 22 04:54:44 but cant get away from the shadows on those little reader thingies Sep 22 04:54:49 no Sep 22 04:54:57 i wrote the original version of the open sourced Flow Sep 22 04:55:50 JakeWharton, what do you use then? I'm curious. Sep 22 04:55:56 wrote my own thing Sep 22 04:56:00 oh nice Sep 22 04:56:10 it's all just views no matter what you use Sep 22 04:56:14 views are the great equalizer Sep 22 04:56:25 [R], when Im combing through these billions of books and I want to find the topic that I mentioned, what keywords should I lookout for? whats that called? packaging? Sep 22 04:56:39 <[R]> bilb_ono: packages Sep 22 04:57:27 bilb_ono did I not link you to wiki where info is quite clear Sep 22 04:57:33 and the keyword :) Sep 22 04:58:46 StingRay_, oops I missed that sorry Sep 22 04:58:49 I'm going to look into these. I was considering writing my own but tbh I'm working with a less experienced developer on this project and I'd prefer he be able to look up anything he works with so I'm avoiding writing anything special - i.e. limiting my own personal use of Dagger and RxJava unless I can make it production quality. Sep 22 04:59:27 Thanks JakeWharton and StingRay_. Sep 22 04:59:31 yep, makes total sense Sep 22 05:05:01 anyone have simple tutorial to create puzzle? Sep 22 05:05:37 g00s: maybe you have it tutorial sir :) Sep 22 05:07:06 harencode sorry could be that I'm on day 3 of my god knows how long headache, but that seems like a ridiculous question! Sep 22 05:07:59 harencode yes i have one sitting right here infact .... Sep 22 05:08:37 of course not ;) Sep 22 05:08:46 StingRay_ time to see the doc :| Sep 22 05:08:49 argh Sep 22 05:08:52 i hope it not a tumor Sep 22 05:08:59 i need to have two "Debugging Apps" at one time and android does not allow it Sep 22 05:09:02 g00s you and I both :) Sep 22 05:11:16 g00s similar thing happened a bit ago with headache, did go to docs, said it was labyrinthitis and can last a while… so not over worried, just pissed off that decreases productivity to near nothing Sep 22 05:11:26 but on day 5 will consider it :) Sep 22 05:11:59 if it was androiditis at least there are some easy solutions Sep 22 05:12:52 StingRay_: hahah, i have searched on google and no one simple tutorial just only source code, i confused to read it :3 maybe mean your nickname string array? :D Sep 22 05:12:52 g00s: thank's sir, yeah sir maybe i confused now... i want to create puzzle and i can build it on eclipse, and succesed using source code on github but i don't know how some syntax have working :3 hahaha maybe you have simple tutorial link to create it? Sep 22 05:13:09 StingRay_ hm, that looks serious Sep 22 05:13:35 "labyrinthitis" ? an aversion to small twisty mazes ?? Sep 22 05:14:47 g00s serious is both subjective and relative… but yeah, if I stand an walk to get a coffee, it's and game of sorts…with risk involved :) Sep 22 05:15:02 g00s: this http://pastebin.com/24RPCaAR i confused that syntax mean Sep 22 05:16:38 maybe anyone can help me Sep 22 05:19:10 harencode this is not the place for 1 on 1 tutoring Sep 22 05:19:16 harencode: your skill level seems too basic for anyone to spend the required amount of time tutoring you ... you'll have to just do a lot of reading and/or ask /specific qutestions/ Sep 22 05:19:34 you will find may tutorials by searching google Sep 22 05:19:41 java is quite popular Sep 22 05:31:18 StingRay_: capella oke guys, thank's for open my eyes :') i will learning hard java, i will read an search on google longtime before throw it on here thank's all and sorry g00s i make you busy to answer my question,tomorrow i only hope can get answer on here when my code is stack, cause i don't have any tutoring, i learn java by self because i really want to learn java code. Sep 22 05:32:37 good luck! keep reading :) it takes a little work Sep 22 06:19:57 is anyone around here Sep 22 06:25:28 how do i deal with extending a Preference class and it says there is no default constructor and i cant implement a constructor Sep 22 06:26:44 wait Sep 22 06:26:45 nvm Sep 22 06:30:58 This might sound stupid, but I would like to embed a youtube video. I cannot extend YoutubeBaseActivity as I am allready extending a BootstrapActivity, and cannot access YoutubeBaseActivity's onCreate() since it is protected. What would the sanest way to do this be? Sep 22 06:39:58 SASDOE https://developers.google.com/youtube/android/player/reference/com/google/android/youtube/player/YouTubePlayerFragment Sep 22 06:41:18 g00s: thanks! Sep 22 06:41:30 yw Sep 22 06:55:06 hello. I want to assign an ID to a layout in XML and access it during runtime. Activity.findViewByID() is returning null Sep 22 06:59:47 I left my magic crystal ball at home, you'll have to provide some code Sep 22 07:02:00 inflated? Sep 22 07:02:04 ravilov I have mine vedu findViewById only works after setcontent Sep 22 07:02:38 or as capella-s3 says, inflated and attached (which is what setContent does) Sep 22 07:04:12 StingRay_: yes I have made sure of that. my ID is that of a linear layout. not of a View Sep 22 07:06:33 :p Sep 22 07:07:18 then the viewTree that you are querying simply does not contain a view (viewGroup or otherwise) with that id Sep 22 07:10:56 ...I hope you're not trying to query a R.layout.xxx instead of a R.id.xxx Sep 22 07:13:56 Thanks StingRay_ (and capella-s3 and ravilov :P ). I was finding my view in the activity while I had created it in the fragment Sep 22 07:30:05 When playing youtube videos with the API, I cannot play videos in HD. I get an error message "There was a problem while playing". However if I switch HD off, it plays fine. I am using the YoutubeSupportPlayerFragment. Sep 22 07:30:31 Any ideas? Oh and I am testing in an emulator, if that changes anything Sep 22 07:33:32 I get that problem all the time, on a real device, but then again I'm on android 2.3 Sep 22 07:33:49 didn't think it affects today's systems (real or emulated) Sep 22 07:42:07 Ok cool. Well for me. Sep 22 07:54:28 Is there a trick to chose what device to send app to once I have checked "use this device for future launches"? Sep 22 07:55:52 If you're using Eclipse it'll be under "Run Configurations", select your project and go to the "Target" tab Sep 22 07:56:59 And under android studio..? Sorry I didn't mention that beforehand Sep 22 07:57:47 I have no idea about Android Studio, I'm gonna guess there is a similar setting screen :D Sep 22 07:57:52 Ha shift click run. Fiddling around tis the way to go. Sep 22 08:00:21 SASDOE: the button next to the "Run" button Sep 22 08:00:38 SASDOE: press "Edit configurations" Sep 22 08:02:26 mrdarknezz: Thanks Sep 22 08:33:22 is there any phonegap app using/experiencing which, I can get myself to not work on native JAVA app? Sep 22 08:33:35 and work on web-apps Sep 22 08:34:48 Looney no idea what that question was, but since you mentioned phonegap, they have a channel you know #phonegap Sep 22 08:37:01 thanks StingRay_ Sep 22 08:37:19 I wanted to know if there an app made using phonegap Sep 22 08:37:27 which looks neat Sep 22 08:37:55 Looney oh, doubt it, some can look neat, but they are in the end just webpages right ? Sep 22 08:38:09 never bothered with it all much, but yeah, never found a good one Sep 22 08:38:13 so, not neat really Sep 22 08:38:25 well, I am also in your boat Sep 22 08:38:36 but I need to convince myself otherwise Sep 22 08:43:07 Looney I guess it depends, this idea that you want to do… can it be done in a simple mobile website ? Sep 22 08:43:35 if so and it's not really an app, then maybe if time/budget is a big factor, maybe web app is the way to go Sep 22 08:43:40 there is a website with html5 Sep 22 08:43:51 I gave them an estimate for native app Sep 22 08:43:57 which imho they didn't like Sep 22 08:44:17 so, they're thinking about cheap/phonegap Sep 22 08:45:18 well if the app context is about needing to use, rather than wanting to use, let them go with phonegap Sep 22 08:45:30 Well they can look/work nicely, but my personal preference goes to native apps Sep 22 08:45:51 VnM have any examples of a good look/working phonegap app ? Sep 22 08:46:19 I haven't worked with PhoneGap but I've worked with WebView apps before Sep 22 08:46:55 well any example of a web app thats good ? Sep 22 08:48:57 Ummm, apps for television programs like The Voice, allowing the publisher to push content to the user Sep 22 08:49:37 well, any app you can…push to the user Sep 22 08:49:41 If you build it using a framework like Angular it can get pretty swift Sep 22 08:49:51 I mean a good example of a nice, functional good to use web app Sep 22 08:49:53 http://phonegap.com/app/feature/ Sep 22 08:51:09 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nbcuni.nbc.thevoice that one is WebView based Sep 22 08:51:10 capella-s3 most if not all of those are old outdated Sep 22 08:51:20 they have switched away from phonegap I think Sep 22 08:51:42 ah Sep 22 08:52:31 VnM anything other than that though, cause thats pretty …erm… not really an app, more like a website Sep 22 08:53:17 Nah don't have any examples, but I know you can make some pretty nifty things with HTML5 that can give a good experience, though never as good as purely native app in my opinion Sep 22 08:53:22 I know there are some that are quite good, but I think that it's a number I can count on 1 hand Sep 22 08:55:40 well, world is moving from web to native Sep 22 08:55:51 linkedin also moved native Sep 22 08:56:03 only cheapsters stick with web Sep 22 08:56:07 *web apps Sep 22 08:56:16 Yeah, it's just a pain in the ass because versions below KitKat aren't using Chromium for their WebView, but if you're publishing an app for multiple platforms using PhoneGap or your own WebView based apps is a fast/cheap solution Sep 22 08:56:31 Looney: Although the linkedin app is shit. Sep 22 08:56:48 didn't check their latest version Sep 22 08:56:57 if it is shit, its time to make one :-) Sep 22 08:57:16 It allows you to make one web based application, which will run on Android/iOS/WindowsPhone, with some minor alterations for the scaling and so forth to be working properly across all devices Sep 22 09:01:45 hi everybody. Can anybody tell me how I can preview a Fragment layout when it's not defined via the -Tag? Instead I just have a with an ID and when creating my Activity, I am creating a Fragment Transaction to my desired Fragments and add them to the FragmentLayout... which acts as a container... Sep 22 09:02:52 unfortunately, in the Editor I can't see how the activity looks like... Only if I were to add the tag there... but then I con't really have control over the fragment instance, since I don't create the instance in the activity's onCreate Sep 22 09:03:55 Can't you just put the fragment layout in a separate layout file and design it there? Sep 22 09:05:30 the fragment layout is in a different file... Basically I have three different components on my screen, each defined by a Fragment with own layout... Depending on the screen size and orientation, I want to be able to create and order the instances like I want... e.g. on Smartphones, I don't always show all three fragments at once, only on tablets that have the screen space... Sep 22 09:06:00 Also, I need to be able to swap single Fragments sometimes... Sep 22 09:06:27 So I can create the layout for each fragment/component, but I can't preview it as a whole as it would look like in the Activity... Sep 22 09:06:58 at least not when I create the Fragments in onCreate() and add a transaction to the given FrameLayout container... Sep 22 09:07:40 When I add the fragments to the Layout using hte fragment-tag, it shows what the final activity looks like. But then I can't add or replace fragments at runtime Sep 22 09:09:23 Oh right I wouldn't know there's probably some handy tool or way for it out there, I would just design it with the fragment tags and remove them for building, are you using Android Studio or Eclipse? Sep 22 09:09:53 Android Studio Sep 22 09:10:35 yeah that's what I was thinking too, that I could design using the fragment-tag, but later replace those... But that's not a cool way though :D But it would work Sep 22 09:10:42 danijoo know everything about Android Studio! Don't you danijoo Sep 22 09:15:57 i'm trying to get android running on a custom board and having trouble getting the wifi driver to work. anyone here good with wifi drivers? Sep 22 09:18:13 lyda totally wrong place, read topic Sep 22 09:18:22 ah. sorry. Sep 22 09:18:25 also this is the totally wrong place to ask for directions too :) Sep 22 09:18:38 ideas for better channels? Sep 22 09:18:54 se previous statements Sep 22 09:18:58 see* Sep 22 09:19:24 answer in topic Sep 22 09:20:16 ah. the #wl12xx channel. cool, thanks. Sep 22 09:23:25 Can somebody please help me figure out why the breakpoints I am setting in source in Eclipse aren't being caught by the debugger? I'm attached and the code *is* being executed. Sep 22 09:26:57 Are you running the program with debug mode or simply running it the usual way? :D Sep 22 09:27:13 and are they really breakpoints ? :) Sep 22 09:27:48 VnM: Debug mode. The application waits for the debugger to attach before executing Sep 22 09:28:06 If you have breakpoints in your code, and you're using Debug to run your code, once your code gets to a breakpoint it should come up with a popup asking you to confirm a perspective switch Sep 22 09:28:16 bros, clean project, add an extra debug line, recompile Sep 22 09:28:22 sometimes breakpoints don't trigger well Sep 22 09:28:43 sometimes the code is just not being reached too ;) Sep 22 09:29:41 The code is decompiled java from an APK from the play store. I enabled debug mode on the app, pushed the code back to the device, and for some reason, the breakpoints aren't being triggered. Sep 22 09:30:39 bros what is it you are wanting to do ? Sep 22 09:30:52 StingRay_: set a breakpoint Sep 22 09:31:01 i mean with decompiling ? Sep 22 09:31:14 See how an app works Sep 22 09:31:19 hehe Sep 22 09:31:47 bros yeah, but I mean for what purpose, there is probably an easier way Sep 22 09:32:35 StingRay_: The program has a platform specific library function that gets called from Java. I wanted to intercept the calls. Sep 22 09:33:28 what library ? Sep 22 09:33:54 Good question. It's code specifically for ARM processors. Sep 22 09:34:33 you want to breakpoint the JNI calls? Sep 22 09:34:51 I just want to step through the source I have. Sep 22 09:36:29 what app is it ? Sep 22 09:37:44 Am I going to get ignored and kicked for discussing it? Sep 22 09:39:02 are you doing something you should not ? that is disrespectful ? Sep 22 09:39:09 no, purely research Sep 22 09:39:17 then no Sep 22 09:39:30 Instagram Sep 22 09:39:50 but probably better way to figure out stuff than dissecting other apps Sep 22 09:39:55 ways* Sep 22 09:42:39 VnM: ?? Sep 22 09:43:05 StingRay_: I want to dissect the app though. Sep 22 09:47:37 Do eet Sep 22 09:48:34 what would you people advice, learning BlackBerry or iPhone programming is good idea Sep 22 09:52:17 Looney thats not only an odd question, it's without conext…so anyone that answers, it's just a random worthless opinion…you would be better reading up on things and making your own mind Sep 22 09:52:51 I would learn both, then forget it all and do Android things instead Sep 22 09:54:16 I thought he was joking haha Sep 22 09:55:08 that question isn't really a joke… but asking it is Sep 22 09:55:12 :) Sep 22 09:55:30 well, asking it to other people Sep 22 09:55:53 Especially in #android-dev :( Sep 22 09:56:45 hehehe Sep 22 09:56:56 and I swear, I wasn't trolling Sep 22 09:58:20 Looney not really a trolling question … just a pointless silly one to ask regardless of where you ask it Sep 22 10:07:14 does anyone here got any gig from Twitter Sep 22 10:36:53 hi there, I am using admob and stumbled upon the issue where you cannot display a banner in an alert dialog in portrait mode. I am thinking about adding the banner outside of the dialog, at the bottom of the screen. Is there a way to do this while keeping the two associated? (that is, the ad will be part of the dialog view hierarchy) Sep 22 10:44:34 nb-ben heya, erm, that maybe possible if you also replicate the shadow of the dialog with a central view that would look like a dialog Sep 22 10:44:43 and by using a dialogFragment Sep 22 10:53:18 The code creates an object of a.c.b here: com.instagram.common.a.c.b localb = new com.instagram.common.a.c.b(); The code for the class is here. https://ideone.com/584dc7 Notice how the constructor is passed with no arguments. Which line in the paste gets executed? Sep 22 10:53:27 StingRay_: you could help me on that Sep 22 10:54:40 sorry I have a headache and obfuscation is not on the list of things that will help Sep 22 10:55:05 the code is mashed and mingled for protection Sep 22 11:01:31 bros does you re-compile even work ? Sep 22 11:01:51 StingRay_: Yes. Perfectly. I'm stepping through the code right now. Sep 22 11:02:33 Looney: have you checked out xamarin ? Sep 22 11:03:15 how good is it shmooz Sep 22 11:03:27 I need to check some app Sep 22 11:03:33 to see how neat can it get Sep 22 11:03:57 I didn't try it, but it says you can do it in C# once and have it for iPhone and Android Sep 22 11:04:55 I will try it when I get the time to learn it Sep 22 11:09:38 StingRay_: what does getBytes do to a string? Sep 22 11:09:58 bros is that a serious question ? Sep 22 11:10:02 Yes. Sep 22 11:10:22 it..erm…. gets the bytes[] Sep 22 11:11:26 Ok. I thought it converted things to hexadecimal representation or something. Sep 22 11:14:02 StingRay_: I see.. so the sane way to do this would be to display a popup dialog that is dismissed when the dialog is dismissed Sep 22 11:14:26 StingRay_: a popup window * sorry Sep 22 11:14:29 what is it you are wanting ? Sep 22 11:14:48 you can have a fragmentDialog that has no shadow and is position anywhere you wish Sep 22 11:14:48 Is there a more readable link to the Google Play store for a certain app except https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=PACKAGE_NAME ? Sep 22 11:14:48 StingRay_: I'll show you, give me a minute Sep 22 11:15:10 StingRay_: ah. Sep 22 11:15:41 StingRay_: you mean a dialog fragment? Sep 22 11:15:53 yes Sep 22 11:16:07 StingRay_: I am building my dialog using a dialog fragment, though it's an alert dialog Sep 22 11:17:27 StingRay_: can I just use getWindow().addContentView ? Sep 22 11:18:01 StingRay_: and then will the added content view die when the dialog is closed? Sep 22 11:18:55 StingRay_: or does the Dialog not have its own Window ? Sep 22 11:19:31 ah, retrieves the current window for the activity... never mind Sep 22 11:21:15 I used fragDiag for emoticon keyboard in my app Sep 22 11:21:30 but just removed all that crap cause most keyboards have it now :) Sep 22 11:23:45 I need to execute an asynctask more then once. I do it by creating new instances of that asynctask. is it better practice to use a Service instead? Sep 22 11:24:11 MartialLaw: it depends on what you are doing Sep 22 11:24:55 MartialLaw: if the task that you are doing is irrelevant to whether or not the activity is still living then you should do it with a service Sep 22 11:25:22 MartialLaw: if the task is meaningless once the activity/ui is no longer around then use an asynctask Sep 22 11:25:28 nb-ben: i'm grabbing data from a server that is relevant to the running activity Sep 22 11:25:36 MartialLaw: then yep, use an asynctask Sep 22 11:25:47 nb-ben: thnc Sep 22 11:25:50 thnx* Sep 22 11:26:04 MartialLaw: and don't jump hoops to use the same object.. Sep 22 11:26:38 MartialLaw: if it's clearly and straightforwardly reusable then do it, otherwise just create a new asynctask Sep 22 11:28:35 nb-ben: this particular one is completely reusable :-) Sep 22 11:31:39 Woah it is so difficult to test stuff. Sep 22 12:02:13 is it? Sep 22 12:03:25 Maybe Sep 22 12:04:38 I am looking for the id of the drawable which is used for the Easy Action Share icon Sep 22 12:05:44 that's cool Sep 22 12:13:07 hi is there a way to add actionbar dropdownnav (spinner) to certain fragment only? Sep 22 12:13:32 I've put the code inside my fragment (onCreateView) but it's show in other fragments Sep 22 12:19:18 Hello Sep 22 12:22:00 Hello Sep 22 12:23:09 I'm looking for someone to learn android togheter Sep 22 12:23:19 already know Java... Sep 22 12:25:07 Double_A: Go learn it on your own. Or with someone you know in real life. But... please, not in this channel. :) Sep 22 12:25:28 why not? Sep 22 12:25:36 Double_A: If you have questions, we're here, but there are good articles to read to learn it. Sep 22 12:26:00 i just need someone to motivate eachother... Sep 22 12:26:06 and maybe discuss things Sep 22 12:26:31 to work through the same book together Sep 22 12:27:51 Double_A, this is the wrong place for such ideas, this is not a tutorial or guidance channel Sep 22 12:28:05 or even a find-a-study-buddy channel Sep 22 12:28:29 and it's most definitely not a one-on-one channel Sep 22 12:29:03 ok then full ack Sep 22 12:34:13 Any GUI option in android studio for output .apk filename or I have to manually code build.gradle ? Sep 22 12:38:38 code manually Sep 22 12:38:57 will do you more good than auto-generating stuff anyway ;) Sep 22 12:39:32 ^+1 Sep 22 12:39:33 so have to learn a bit gradle scripting !!! Sep 22 12:42:39 lol Double_A Sep 22 12:59:58 Are all the design choices in the Android framework wrong on purpose? Sep 22 13:01:49 lol Sep 22 13:06:06 only if you use them wrong on purpose Sep 22 13:09:06 There is a way to get an actionbar like this? http://postimg.org/image/sauihbhcn/ Sep 22 13:17:22 Birk_: I haven't tried it but you can try setting the actionbar to a custom drawable Sep 22 13:19:59 mrdarknezz: I will make a try Sep 22 13:21:21 actionbar background* Sep 22 13:21:46