**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 24 03:00:00 2014 Sep 24 03:07:52 what bluetooth shit? Sep 24 03:13:43 I don't expect much to get fixed outside of basics Sep 24 03:19:00 this android one article is interesting http://www.zdnet.com/with-android-one-google-puts-itself-firmly-back-in-the-os-driving-seat-7000033662/ Sep 24 03:19:14 "Android One is just the next step in that progression. Google is using the lure of a turnkey mobile platform to get everyone else in the value chain to give up hope of tweaking Android for their own ends. " Sep 24 03:19:29 if there is no hope of tweaking, there is not much point in aosp either i guess Sep 24 03:19:56 author buries the lede there :| Sep 24 03:29:06 in your opinion, its cool to store obscured tokens? do you use any particular library? Sep 24 03:51:15 cliffreich in what context? oauth secrets? Sep 24 03:57:28 yeah oauth token Sep 24 03:57:55 user authenticate with provider, app receives a token Sep 24 03:58:32 use KeyStore Sep 24 04:02:52 sarbs: You can't do a BLE scan without killing WiFi on a ton of devices. Sep 24 04:03:30 drewbug that sucks Sep 24 04:27:29 anyway, if you want fixes, still best to submit patches to aosp Sep 24 04:27:47 and ble scan killing wifi sounds like driver problems... Sep 24 04:27:57 or chipset Sep 24 04:36:27 pfn: It's on a Nexus 7, though. Sep 24 04:36:34 Fresh out of the box. Sep 24 04:36:39 Just bought another one to make sure. Sep 24 04:36:41 Pretty terrible. Sep 24 04:44:52 Should we ever use onSaveInstanceState? Or should we just use Fragment.setRetainInstance? Sep 24 04:47:16 keystore with tokens? does that improves security compared with obscured shared preferences? Sep 24 04:47:33 TacticalJoke setRetainInstance isn't going to help if the activity / process gets destroyed Sep 24 04:48:26 the former yes, not latter Sep 24 04:49:18 oh, i should say activity gets destroyed when process gets destroyed ;) Sep 24 04:49:31 g00s: Why not? I read that it retains the Fragment. Sep 24 04:49:37 don't retain all the things :| Sep 24 04:50:40 Can an App developed for Android on phones be deployed on Android mini PC? Sep 24 04:52:04 retained fragments only stick around for the process Sep 24 04:52:05 damn im still very concerned about tokens. android needs include any option to improve that or ready encryption for shared preferences. as any phone can be rooted Sep 24 04:52:44 cliffreich, there is no such security where the device is not in your control Sep 24 04:53:37 yes i know... but even in that case shared preferences should have any kind of default security. not plaintext Sep 24 04:53:54 But is there any case where it's better to use onSaveInstanceState than Fragment.setRetainInstance? Sep 24 04:54:03 If the process dies, they'll both fail, right? Sep 24 04:54:22 "Ever since the introduction of Fragments in Android 3.0, the recommended means of retaining active objects across Activity instances is to wrap and manage them inside of a retained "worker" Fragment." Sep 24 04:54:50 TacticalJoke "active objects" Sep 24 04:55:16 i know that even with a pc and good packers like themida you can unpack or capture relevant information on execution. but im still worried as a developer im "responsible" of tokens Sep 24 04:56:23 I didn't understand what 'active objects' meant there. Sep 24 04:59:01 cliffreich, such security is an illusion Sep 24 05:00:41 TacticalJoke threads, maybe broadcast receivers that are listening for something within a duration, etc Sep 24 05:01:18 saved instance state survives processes Sep 24 05:02:50 is it possible to override and change a scrollview’s ending point when scrolled? Sep 24 05:03:18 rather, find out where it’ll end before it actually scrolls, then change that location Sep 24 05:04:18 ultra- possibly, with a rather complex interception of the fling motion event Sep 24 05:05:39 that sounds like the function of twitter, loading more tweets when you reach the bottom Sep 24 05:06:08 very much so, but not related to twitter or loading :) Sep 24 05:06:25 besides that almost identical Sep 24 05:06:46 StingRay_: i’ve overridden scrolling altogether, and decided to use velocityX/velocityY to calculate where it should go… it works fine, except there’s a small delay before the scrolling animation starts Sep 24 05:07:24 er wait, that’s lot a delay… not looking at it right… i just have the multiplier for velocity set too high i think Sep 24 05:07:27 and so it looks weird Sep 24 05:07:29 i can fix this :D Sep 24 05:08:45 But is there any situation where it would be better to use onSaveInstanceState than Fragment.setRetainInstance? Sep 24 05:08:56 It seems to me that the latter does everything the former does with less effort on our part. Sep 24 05:09:32 Using onSaveInstanceState is such a pain when it comes to retaining instances of custom classes. Sep 24 05:10:13 setRetainInstance replaces onRetainNonConfigurationInstance, not onSaveInstanceState Sep 24 05:10:33 Right, but it can be used in place of onSaveInstanceState, right? Sep 24 05:10:39 The latter survives the OS killing the process Sep 24 05:10:40 No Sep 24 05:10:49 Oh. Sep 24 05:10:53 ah, thanks SimonVT i couldn't for the life of me remember :"onRetainNonConfigurationInstance" thats a mouthful Sep 24 05:11:10 who the fuck came up with that name Sep 24 05:11:19 So people might use both Fragment.setRetainInstance (for short-term tasks) *and* onSaveInstanceState (for everything else)? Sep 24 05:11:22 Like, in one project. Sep 24 05:11:37 g00s I think they should add state to the end of it …make it clearer and more readable Sep 24 05:11:41 g00s: Yeah, it's terrible. lol Sep 24 05:11:55 TacticalJoke ... *active objects* Sep 24 05:12:11 g00s: Does that mean "temporary tasks" or something? Sep 24 05:12:17 I'm not sure what 'active' refers to. Sep 24 05:12:19 Yes. setRetainInstance is for retaining object instances that should survive the activity being recreated because of configuration changes Sep 24 05:12:44 SimonVT: So short-term tasks, basically? Sep 24 05:12:46 TacticalJoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_object Sep 24 05:13:38 Or expensive objects, or anything that is tied to an activity that shouldn't be recreated with it Sep 24 05:13:50 g00s: Is that really what he meant by "active objects"? Hmm. Sep 24 05:14:11 SimonVT: And so I guess we have to implement Parcelable for everything else, huh. Sep 24 05:14:43 Any state that would be needed to recreate the activity as-is, yes Sep 24 05:15:13 I kinda feel like the OS should handle all this. Am I wrong? Sep 24 05:15:24 This is some weird manual-memory stuff. Sep 24 05:15:48 Every time I mess with onSaveInstanceState, I feel like I'm writing part of an OS. Sep 24 05:16:12 It's just bizarre that app developers have to worry about this. Sep 24 05:17:10 * StingRay_ knowns no different Sep 24 05:17:15 The OS can't retain your entire VM if it needs the memory for something else Sep 24 05:17:23 That'd be slow and unnecessary Sep 24 05:17:38 So you get to decide what to save, with onSaveInstanceState Sep 24 05:18:19 I never had to worry about this with Windows programming. I guess Windows doesn't kill stuff, because there is usually enough RAM not to have to worry. Is that right? Sep 24 05:18:34 well, the alternative in other operating systems is swapping - but android has its own mechanism Sep 24 05:19:36 you could argue that its more efficient to kill a process and save a few integers than swap it all out Sep 24 05:20:16 but as mobile devices get more powerful it seems like a decision that makes less sense moving forward Sep 24 05:20:54 I see. Sep 24 05:20:56 hey g00s Sep 24 05:21:09 android started in 2007, stuff was very different back then :) Sep 24 05:21:16 hey Napalm :) Sep 24 05:21:28 So, in summary, as an Android app developer I'll always need onSaveInstanceState at times. I'm not gonna be able to get away with just Fragment.setRetainInstance. Is that right? Sep 24 05:21:48 just had a play with porterduff's to paint inside bitmap shapes.. https://github.com/slightfoot/android-painter-example if anyone is interested Sep 24 05:26:05 Napalm looks like you had some fun :) Sep 24 05:26:25 * g00s goes back to bluetooth mess Sep 24 05:28:48 g00s: yup I did, good luck with that Sep 24 05:28:51 night Sep 24 06:18:11 Anyone have a moment to take a look at some Java code, I know why an app is crashing but im having trouble fixing the issue Sep 24 06:19:41 Hyph3n ask a specific question … maybe the part that is confusing you, then someone may answer Sep 24 06:20:01 but doubt anyone is just going to donate time to you like what you just asked Sep 24 06:28:53 OK, thanks StingRay_... so.. i have a textView that updates dynamically based on what the user adds in an EditText field, the problem comes when the value that was entered initially in the EditText field is deleted in an attempt to add a new one, i believe the program is trying to perform math calculations with a null value and it crashes Sep 24 06:29:32 then if it's empty, dont do anything Sep 24 06:30:13 would that not fix it :) Sep 24 06:31:25 is this possible: open external gallery via intent.ACTION_VIEW, but not file but entire path? Sep 24 06:32:02 if it's empty, don't do anything? Sep 24 06:32:07 http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/qz5340d6f9.gif Sep 24 06:32:39 huh Sep 24 06:33:22 Yeah it would, just having trouble adding that part in, seems to break more things, i will take another look Sep 24 06:33:44 If it crashes, read the stack trace Sep 24 06:33:54 Attach a debugger, inspect your variables Sep 24 06:40:55 measure it with a chicken Sep 24 06:44:14 Has anyone used FB SDK 3.17???? Sep 24 06:45:58 Hello. I have theme holo light. I am getting an error that textviews in listviews are white on grey background Sep 24 06:53:18 why did I not take time to learn regex Sep 24 06:54:54 the chicken again? XD Sep 24 06:59:03 FB activity is appearing every time when login into app Sep 24 06:59:42 so FB is acting….much like… a virus ? Sep 24 07:03:57 I need a toggle switch where on and off are always shown, just highlighted if on or off, anyone got a recomendation? Sep 24 07:05:01 you mean the type "on" and "off" ? Sep 24 07:05:06 ? Sep 24 07:05:10 test Sep 24 07:05:17 oops, text* Sep 24 07:05:21 i mean if it is like ON OFF then when ON the off is still shown, just not "highlighted" Sep 24 07:06:00 yeah thats what I was asking, erm , so comes down to style choice, cause really for that you have only 3 options Sep 24 07:06:31 stacked, posative-element-negative, posative-negative-element Sep 24 07:06:48 element being the actual graphic that shows the states Sep 24 07:07:21 whatever that would be, an actual switch, a slide thing ... Sep 24 07:07:45 you mean use a layer list with selectors? Sep 24 07:08:08 So i imported a project as a new module, but gradle can't find the style in attrs, how do I fix this? Sep 24 07:09:08 lasserix i mean like the 2nd row http://www.graphicsfuel.com/2012/10/toggle-switches-ui-elements-psd/ or the last i suppose Sep 24 07:09:17 I thought you were asking for design ideas Sep 24 07:10:07 yeah Sep 24 07:10:10 no i have design Sep 24 07:10:13 just need to implement Sep 24 07:10:54 any image ? Sep 24 07:11:10 umm i dont have the image Sep 24 07:11:41 how do i import res froma module? Sep 24 07:18:07 ahh nm Sep 24 07:19:18 how do i add module into classpath? Sep 24 07:24:37 hmm so i do new module -> import from project, and it doesn't include the src folder Sep 24 07:28:29 argh Sep 24 07:28:56 fucking libaries, i want to be thankful but they're fucked? Sep 24 07:31:09 has anyone integreted FB sdk latest? Sep 24 07:31:15 Need help guys Sep 24 07:32:22 FB activity is appearing briefly always when ever login button is pressed. This happens after the login happened and permissions given after the first time Sep 24 07:41:50 private List D = new ArrayList(); Sep 24 07:41:50 private volatile d b = d.a; Sep 24 07:41:50 Variable names are case sensitive, correct? Sep 24 07:45:53 hi, i am trying to use an intent url to open an app from a web site link. url: intent://localhost/customer/123#Intent;package=my.app.test.android;scheme=customscheme;end; . but it opens just the play store. what is wrong? my intent filter: http://pastebin.com/2dVD05BA Sep 24 07:55:46 hello, i think an app was erratically suspended. What can i do about it? Can I call them? Sep 24 07:59:12 finally got it to work: had to import in eclipse, make library, export as gradle, import into gradle, fix, then reimport as module Sep 24 07:59:49 HI all im looking for a good way to stack statustext sring to display and delete one and the other Sep 24 08:00:15 lasserix, face it, without eclipse you are screwed :p Sep 24 08:00:27 im not a java OOP pro so can i use String[] statustextentry Sep 24 08:01:11 ravilov: only because it was a deprecated library no one bothered to fix Sep 24 08:01:12 ;p Sep 24 08:01:13 and add Strings to it THEN display item[0] and delete it so the stack falls Sep 24 08:01:30 do you know stringbuilder Sep 24 08:01:40 no Sep 24 08:01:50 I have a relativelayout(layout_width and height are fill parent) inside this I have a tablelayout(with few tablerows).The table rows are with layout_width and height wrap_content.And each row has a label and text entry field. The label fields are coming properly, But I want the edittext fields to just fill the Sep 24 08:02:03 ravilov: and having to do all that shaved a week or two off my life span Sep 24 08:02:11 google it Sep 24 08:02:16 right margin of the page.I mean the edittext field right edge should touch the screen edge Sep 24 08:02:18 cliffreich: thanks Sep 24 08:02:38 niru you'd have to post code Sep 24 08:02:40 i tried using layout_weight =1 but its not working Sep 24 08:02:46 but you can use layout:gravity="right" Sep 24 08:02:46 layout code? Sep 24 08:02:53 xml Sep 24 08:02:58 hmm ok Sep 24 08:03:14 lasserix, oh noes, you're using a deprecated something?? :p Sep 24 08:03:45 i needed a slider toggle button where the ON OFF text is always showing (ie, if ON then OFF shows, but is not highlighted and vica versa) Sep 24 08:03:57 all the existing libraries are a) bug ridden b) eclipse based Sep 24 08:04:16 ah Sep 24 08:04:29 well I guess now you at least brought it into this century ;) Sep 24 08:11:40 wow Sep 24 08:11:49 I got some of xscreensaver running on Android Sep 24 08:11:50 k001 Sep 24 08:16:44 lasserix: Eclipse based? Sep 24 08:18:59 \yeah Sep 24 08:19:08 some kind of bastard child of eclipse Sep 24 08:32:58 lasserix: Are you talking about an Android lib? Sep 24 08:33:57 i am not even sure Sep 24 08:33:58 no Sep 24 08:34:04 they weren't library projects Sep 24 08:34:05 to begin with Sep 24 08:34:17 why? i have no idea since htey were intended to be libary projects Sep 24 08:39:34 lasserix: What lib are you talking about then? Sep 24 08:39:52 I am trying to clean up my code i need to declare my location callbacks in a different reusable class is this possible ? Sep 24 08:41:13 umm Sep 24 08:41:26 https://github.com/pellucide/Android-Switch-Demo-pre-4.0 Sep 24 08:41:37 PinkSpecs: sure Sep 24 08:43:10 lasserix: any read up you know about that I could reference as I do this ? Sep 24 08:43:35 Javascript is weird. Sep 24 08:43:36 http://i.snag.gy/YHP1H.jpg Sep 24 08:43:47 is switch a togglebutton with 2 state drawable Sep 24 08:44:08 object + object is not a number... Sep 24 08:44:16 Thanks Javascript. Sep 24 08:46:06 lasserix: Can't you just use the import function in AS? Sep 24 08:47:14 lasserix: That just seems to be a bunch of drawables that has been applied to the switch? Sep 24 08:47:45 lasserix: Using a class called "MySwitch" Sep 24 08:49:07 yeah what cliffreich said Sep 24 08:54:08 hey guys Sep 24 08:54:35 why would a project with this manifest http://pastie.org/9590117 cause the app not to show in this device's Play store http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php Sep 24 08:55:09 it's 4.4.2 (upgradeable), and it has Bluetooth v4.0 with LE Sep 24 08:55:18 it must be available Sep 24 08:55:29 Mrdarknezz: how to import it? Sep 24 08:55:30 i tried Sep 24 08:55:34 it failed. failed miserably. Sep 24 08:56:09 you can't import project into a project, you have to import module from existing project Sep 24 08:56:13 Fenny: wat ;) Sep 24 08:56:14 but that project has to be a gradle project Sep 24 08:56:38 hence i had to open it in eclipse, export it as a gradle project, import it as a gradle project, fix it, then import it as amodule Sep 24 08:56:38 it's saying to me in xml :` Replace "-" with an "en dash" character (–, &&;#8211;) ? ` . so how I should I do it ? I have a minus sign in my , not an en-dash. Sep 24 08:56:51 I am confused by it. Sep 24 08:58:44 it's telling you exactly what to do Sep 24 09:02:01 like a unicode entity Sep 24 09:08:57 indeed, sarbs Sep 24 09:10:39 any idea about the question above? I'm suspecting that the Note 2 in question has not had its upgrade done Sep 24 09:10:59 otherwise there is no reason that an app with the manifest above would not show up in that device's Play store Sep 24 09:11:11 it has Bluetooth LE, it has 4.4.2, that's it Sep 24 09:12:41 I think "{} - []" is my favorite though. Sep 24 09:15:47 NaN? Sep 24 09:17:00 -0 Sep 24 09:17:53 lasserix: I assume you used the "Import project..." function? Sep 24 09:18:15 and you got some sort of dependency error or something? Sep 24 09:19:33 hey, how do I add a shadow to my custom progress bar? Sep 24 09:21:08 i have an AppController class which extends Application class Sep 24 09:21:22 in onCreate it set Context ctx = this; Sep 24 09:21:56 if i call getApplicationContext will be the same ctx that i setted in onCreate? Sep 24 09:23:57 mrdarknezz yes it did not import any of the classes Sep 24 09:24:10 resu01 no Sep 24 09:24:13 not necessarily Sep 24 09:24:32 the applicationcontext can change Sep 24 09:24:33 Adding another shape with offset in the layer-list does nothing Sep 24 09:24:52 the next time oncreate is called (eg your app was killed by the os) Sep 24 09:25:14 yes sure. Maybe i wasn't clear Sep 24 09:25:15 then the two contexts would be pointing to different instances Sep 24 09:29:30 when I try to debug my ap i keep getting Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_UID_CHANGED]. I know it's because Android Studio (<--BUGolicious) didn't uninstall my app properly...how can i fix this!!!?? Sep 24 09:29:44 lasserix let's say that i have a getAppControllerContext where i return this, will this method return the same reference with getApplicationContext without casting? Sep 24 09:30:19 AppController is my custom class which extends Application Sep 24 09:32:10 god. sometimes i wish i still used Eclipse. seriously Sep 24 09:32:15 resu01 you know that in the amount of time you have waited for an answer + the time taken to type you could actually test that ? Sep 24 09:33:50 StingRay: you are right! Sep 24 09:34:02 thanks for your help anyway! Sep 24 09:39:45 Is the Android system's 'normal' 'large' 'huge' font size the same everywhere? Sep 24 09:39:47 i.e. on all devices Sep 24 09:41:12 Probably scales with device size/density, and there is never any guarantee that some manufacturer has tweaked it slightly to fit their needs Sep 24 09:43:07 h,, Sep 24 09:43:38 hmm, does using gnustl force you to GPL your whole code? It's not really clear from the exception clause language Sep 24 09:45:47 can someone please tell me how shared preferences are done? what it's the class name? Sep 24 09:46:40 btw, I cannot open http/web at the moment. there is some maintenance at this time. Sep 24 09:47:03 so please tell me here or on private. Sep 24 09:47:53 superlinux-hp I could send you the docs if you want ? Sep 24 09:47:59 dcc etc Sep 24 09:48:27 or let me check my ipad 1st if it's working. Sep 24 09:49:44 I just cannot understand what's going on on my linux!!! Sep 24 09:49:51 superlinux-hp but the class name is just SharedPreferences Sep 24 09:49:58 we is working on my ipad! Sep 24 09:50:06 brb, gtg reboot. Sep 24 09:50:16 ok thanks. Sep 24 10:05:44 i'm getting the error, when I try to debug my app, Error type 3, Error activity class {...MyActivity} does not exist.. it's in my manifest and everything Sep 24 10:09:36 now I am getting the pkg: /data/local/tmp/mypackagename Sep 24 10:09:36 Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_UID_CHANGED] Sep 24 10:09:59 anyone? Sep 24 10:10:25 google not working ? Sep 24 10:11:01 adb shell rm /data/data/yourpagename Sep 24 10:11:27 or uninstall the app from application manager Sep 24 10:11:31 then retry Sep 24 10:15:58 danijoo: the app isn't in the application manager... Android Studio fucked up (as always) the uninstall and uninstalled it halfway Sep 24 10:16:25 is it a real device and not rooted? Sep 24 10:16:46 then you have a problem.. ^^' Sep 24 10:25:04 thnx Android Studio, now I get to put my device back to factory settings. FUCK android studio Sep 24 10:28:17 MartialLaw: or root it. or use a stable IDE :) Sep 24 10:30:27 I use Eclipse and the ADT even though I hate Eclipse for that reasion :-/ Sep 24 10:30:46 DLSteve: Dont use eclipse then :) Sep 24 10:30:56 Woo, more Eclipse users Sep 24 10:31:31 danijoo, what other IDEs does the ADT plugin work with? Sep 24 10:32:06 Hi, I found a tutorial on how to read file from the assets using AssetManager. Where do I need to put my files? /res/... ? Sep 24 10:32:23 DLSteve: no one. But you could use Intellij with android or Android Studio (if you like to live dangerous) Sep 24 10:33:01 Nindustries: asserts folder ^.^ Sep 24 10:33:08 assets* Sep 24 10:33:41 danijoo, I like IntelliJ, how is the android support? (Not the Android Studio version of InteleJ) Sep 24 10:33:44 for gradle based layouy its src/main/assets Sep 24 10:34:05 I see. I'm not using Gradle tough Sep 24 10:34:14 DLSteve: the same as android studio. AS is simply intellij with everything removed thats not android related Sep 24 10:34:37 danijoo, ah ok. Sep 24 10:34:45 Nindustries: I thing for non-gradle its just /assets Sep 24 10:35:01 Yeah assets folder in your root directory Sep 24 10:35:08 DLSteve: it has "native" support for gradle and everything :) Sep 24 10:35:21 It compiles! ^^ Sep 24 10:35:46 it would also compile if you give it another name. it just wont be in the apk then :D Sep 24 10:36:10 danijoo, Im hoping they do a big revamp of AS for the L version of android. Sep 24 10:37:28 DLSteve: I dont think so. Sep 24 10:38:12 Yah I don't think they will ether but one can hope. Sep 24 10:38:28 what would you change? Sep 24 10:38:47 warning do not use Android Studio Sep 24 10:39:47 MartialLaw: its beta software. should expect things like that.. Sep 24 10:44:21 Could someone please check if I'm loading my Assets correctly? I'm getting an exception "null" :o http://pastie.org/9590272 Sep 24 10:44:50 NullPointerException * Sep 24 10:45:05 debug it Sep 24 10:45:42 Ah, indeed. sorry Sep 24 10:45:45 .,/// zxcvbnm,./ Sep 24 10:46:03 mvncvmnv, Sep 24 10:51:58 oops. sorry. did not mean to post that. :P Sep 24 10:52:23 So I narrowed it down; getResources().getAssets() gives me null. Any ideas how/why this occurs? Sep 24 10:54:39 dont know.. Try it with getAssets() without getResources() Sep 24 10:55:09 Ah, I need to use setContentView before I can access my assets/resources? Sep 24 10:55:31 no idea.. Sep 24 11:08:15 what do you guys think about google forcing paid and in-app-purchase app developers to publish their address publicly ? Sep 24 11:08:32 mixed Sep 24 11:08:48 but not really forcing ....asking Sep 24 11:08:57 there is a big difference Sep 24 11:09:15 so I can still make a paid app, and refuse to provide an address then ? Sep 24 11:09:34 "you" can do whatever "you" want Sep 24 11:09:34 lol, not like there wasn't a (quite fiery) discussion about this the other day Sep 24 11:09:45 firey* Sep 24 11:09:55 shmooz: I think thats totally valid. Sep 24 11:10:21 danijoo you have personal apps on the playstore ? Sep 24 11:10:33 what do you mean with "personal" Sep 24 11:10:43 well that you have done Sep 24 11:10:45 DanijooNotes, for all your notes! Sep 24 11:10:48 as you, the person Sep 24 11:10:58 danijoo, means are you willing to publish your home address Sep 24 11:12:14 danijoo not sure how else to ask, have you, the person, personally (not by a form of 3rd party) placed paid or iap apps on the playstore ? Sep 24 11:12:18 is that better :) ? Sep 24 11:13:09 I founded a one man company because you are not allowed to earn more then a few bucks without one in germany Sep 24 11:13:26 so publishing as private me isnt really an option :) Sep 24 11:13:37 danijoo ok, is the company address your home address ? Sep 24 11:13:53 danijoo, I found the error. I was using a class based upon an Activity, without switching to the activity Sep 24 11:14:22 StingRay_: yes Sep 24 11:14:44 I didnt provide it in google though (they never asked me O.o) Sep 24 11:14:53 danijoo ah ok, cool, gimme your app name/s please … in a month or 2 will look u up on google earth Sep 24 11:14:57 but you could easily take my name and look the address up in german register Sep 24 11:15:19 I'll give them a false address, maybe the police station, so when those crazies come to beat me up cause my app bricked their phone, they'll be in for a surprise Sep 24 11:15:41 shmooz no now that would break terms Sep 24 11:16:03 shmooz: or google realizes and just closes your account and keep your money :) Sep 24 11:16:06 dishonour is not a way to solve conflict Sep 24 11:17:01 StingRay_: You could download my app, take the name out of the copyright and get my address from a german department. Have fun :) Sep 24 11:18:07 well then I demand 24 hour protective custody Sep 24 11:18:30 paid by google Sep 24 11:19:11 why? Sep 24 11:19:21 there is always an option of not publishing stuff on the play store Sep 24 11:19:25 nobody's forcing you to use it Sep 24 11:19:57 if you want to take part in business life, you have to do it as YOU, and not as "Haxx0rP!mp1337". Thats normal. Sep 24 11:20:27 btw where is this setting for address in developer console? cant find it.. Sep 24 11:20:48 danijoo, you're german, they know everything about you already, so you have that option disabled :p Sep 24 11:21:06 ravilov: still no real name and stuff showing in play store though Sep 24 11:21:08 lol Sep 24 11:21:10 :D Sep 24 11:21:14 oh now i got it.. Sep 24 11:21:15 <.< Sep 24 11:22:11 but seriously. There is no field for address or anything in dev console settings Sep 24 11:22:18 where is it? or is it only for new accounts? Sep 24 11:23:07 it should be for all accounts Sep 24 11:23:08 danijoo: they said they will start asking for addresses starting next month Sep 24 11:23:25 shmooz: did they also say they publish them in gps? Sep 24 11:23:32 aww, and danijoo was so eager to give them all his personal data :p Sep 24 11:23:33 i mean it could be possible they just keep them internally Sep 24 11:23:55 danijoo, I think the idea was that your physical address will become public Sep 24 11:24:04 source? Sep 24 11:24:12 yesterday's chat in here? :) Sep 24 11:24:16 danijoo: afaik they require you to have it published publicly Sep 24 11:24:23 http://www.whatmobile.net/2014/09/23/android-app-developers-will-soon-forced-publicly-display-home-address-google-play-store/ Sep 24 11:24:42 there was also a warning in dev console saying same Sep 24 11:25:50 I wonder if they plan to verify this information, like send you a snailmail letter with the code you then need to enter in the console Sep 24 11:25:53 "must display a registered address where they can be contacted" Sep 24 11:26:13 exactly, and all other contact info (phone, email) is always verified Sep 24 11:26:22 nothing about your home adress. you could also provide a lockbox or sth Sep 24 11:26:28 cant use P.O. box either Sep 24 11:26:38 StingRay_: why? Sep 24 11:26:50 in law/legal not a physical address Sep 24 11:26:57 thats why they use those words Sep 24 11:27:03 that depends on country ;) Sep 24 11:27:10 danijoo, yeah nobody said you have to enter your *home* address, but often times that's the only (legal) one people have Sep 24 11:27:16 they want to get…. "physical"…"pyhsical" Sep 24 11:27:33 StingRay_, that sounds... intrusive... at best Sep 24 11:27:47 danijoo actual it's under ITL or ICC so no, doesn't Sep 24 11:27:51 * ravilov feels violated, even though I have and will have nothing to do with play store Sep 24 11:28:03 Well i can understand both sides of that. I mean i totally agree that it sucks if you want to publish your small hobby app and have to throw your address out into the wild Sep 24 11:28:29 danijoo if you live in a country where legal documents can be passed (notarised) through a PO box let me know ;) Sep 24 11:28:36 But I also see the customer view who have nothing in hand if you betray them. Sep 24 11:28:40 lol, John Carmack hates android development, he calls it 'Development Hell' Sep 24 11:28:48 danijoo, supposedly this wasn't google's invention, supposedly they were forced to do this by higher instances Sep 24 11:28:49 in what countries do you have to give out your physical address? Sep 24 11:28:53 shmooz who cares Sep 24 11:29:08 hello Sep 24 11:29:12 MartialLaw all Sep 24 11:29:17 Perhaps a stupid question Sep 24 11:29:19 why is Carmack such a godly figure to so many? Sep 24 11:29:32 Because they haven't met you yet ravilov Sep 24 11:29:35 he made DOOM man! Sep 24 11:29:56 shmooz, If you mainly program close to the hardware using C/C++ then deving for android does indeed suck, for everything else its fine. Sep 24 11:30:07 VnM, I just feel only hardcore gamers would hold him in such high regard Sep 24 11:30:51 DLSteve: unfortunately I have done that, in fact I tried making my own DOOM back then Sep 24 11:31:03 with mode X and raycasting Sep 24 11:31:17 I'm trying to integrate code from another project. So the original author has defined a class which is a subclass of SurfaceView. He Instantiates it in onCreate by setContentView(theObject); Sep 24 11:32:15 Now i want to use this class but don't want it to occupy the whole screen. I created a SurfaceView object in main.xml and then connected it with a variable through it's ID Sep 24 11:32:52 My question is how can i connect the custom SurfaceView with the one i created in xml? Sep 24 11:33:15 ummm like any other view? just use fqcn Sep 24 11:33:42 peska: after setting contentview to your xml layout, SurfaceView view = findViewById(R.id.viewid); Sep 24 11:34:35