**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 02 03:00:01 2014 Oct 02 03:00:13 good intentions though Oct 02 03:02:08 haha, they mispelled consensual in the link Oct 02 03:02:18 lol app looks... Like it would make the creator some money Oct 02 03:10:58 Anyone know why something annotated with @Singleton would be recreated (Dagger) Oct 02 03:11:12 Over and over again Oct 02 03:11:45 how are you getting it into the graph? Oct 02 03:12:13 Letting it be auto created. @Inject on the constructor Oct 02 03:12:24 are you using .plus at all? Oct 02 03:12:37 yeah a bunch of places Oct 02 03:12:46 So I need to make a module higher up to skip that? Oct 02 03:12:54 higer up on the graph* Oct 02 03:13:09 right. @Singleton is per graph and .plus creates a new, "scoped" graph Oct 02 03:13:30 so it is a singleton, but one per graph Oct 02 03:13:33 Makes sense thanks. Oct 02 03:13:55 v2 is fixing that with proper scope annotations Oct 02 03:14:23 Awesome, is there an ETA on v2? Oct 02 03:14:46 this year Oct 02 03:14:52 it's already mostly usable Oct 02 03:15:18 Mostly... haha Oct 02 03:15:24 first build keep getting "make failed to build some targets". I was trying to compile stock aosp current master for hammerhead using openjdk 7, anyone point me in the right direction about the "make failed to build some targets" error? Oct 02 03:15:32 building with vm ubuntu 12.04.4, and 14.04 with same results, pc is a i7 4770k w/ 16gb ram and allocated 8gb ram and 200gb to vm Oct 02 03:16:00 Do you know what the plan with flow and mortar is? Oct 02 03:18:20 hacktron: do you have more info other than the some targets? Like what targets and why? Oct 02 03:19:52 similar to activity, is there an application.onPause() or onResume() ? Oct 02 03:20:01 pieces029: this is what I see at bottom of console "#### make failed to build some targets (02:53:05 (hh:mm:ss)) ####" Oct 02 03:20:33 pieces029: i am involved in neither of those libraries Oct 02 03:20:42 pieces029: where woud I get more detailed info, this is my first build with android and am not familar with reading or finding logs yet Oct 02 03:22:17 JakeWharton: do you use either of them, or do you have better recommendations? Oct 02 03:22:36 hacktron: I found all the errors I had in the console. Oct 02 03:22:50 pieces029: i use neither. i've never had the need for mortar or a mortar-like library. Oct 02 03:23:13 pieces029: and i wrote the original version of flow but abandoned it (1.5yrs ago) Oct 02 03:23:29 pieces029: i have my own backstate/navigation library Oct 02 03:24:06 I was just about to ask, if you used fragments in cash, I'm guessing you use that lib instead? Oct 02 03:34:30 pieces029: after looking at the console for error the only thing I can make out is that its a segmentation fault, maybe missing dependency ... idk I took a ss of this. Any help would be much appriciated. http://hacktron.com/aosp/aosp-build-fail.png Oct 02 03:36:47 g00s you mentioned wifidirect was a "problem area" could you be a little more specific? is it not reliable or ? Oct 02 03:37:14 lasserix_ yeah from what i heard it was tough getting different devices to interroperate Oct 02 03:37:43 its like google didn't want your phone to connect to anything but the cloud, so wifi direct and ble are fucked up Oct 02 03:37:55 but, wifi direct comes down more to the oem drivers, etc Oct 02 03:37:58 chipset Oct 02 03:39:14 hm, somebody this morning was looking into log4j v2 Oct 02 03:39:26 i think this only uses lmax disruptor when using the asyncappender Oct 02 03:41:19 pieces029: yep. just views and this little lib Oct 02 03:43:43 Cool, something about the square apps seem to be really smooth. I started trying to use flow and mortar and I like it, but I can't help wonder if there is something better. Oct 02 03:44:22 i believe there is Oct 02 03:44:40 Your lib? Oct 02 03:45:04 no, but maybe an evolution of it Oct 02 03:46:16 Forsure, I'll keep using it and hopefully add things I think it needs. Oct 02 03:47:20 log4jv2? Oct 02 03:47:23 hmm Oct 02 03:47:26 fucking cloud Oct 02 03:47:32 just before making a new build of android I see "TARGET_2ND_ARCH=" listed in targets, anybody know why there would be 2nd arch listed as above this "TARGET_ARCH=arm" is alread listed.? Oct 02 03:47:37 can't wait till firegarden API comes out Oct 02 03:48:04 *err opengarden Oct 02 03:52:53 * g00s googles opengarden Oct 02 03:53:11 "Share connectivity with other Open Garden devices via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi" Oct 02 03:54:06 well, the schematic has p2p wifi ... so we know right away this isn't going to work great with android Oct 02 03:54:35 lasserix_ let me know how it goes, for science Oct 02 03:57:10 well Oct 02 03:57:12 apparently Oct 02 03:57:15 firechat is huge Oct 02 03:57:28 miillions of users in hongkong right now because of the protests/occupy movement Oct 02 03:57:35 and firechat uses the unreleased sdk Oct 02 03:57:39 of opengarden to do its thing Oct 02 03:58:30 but are those firechat users of android doing p2p ? Oct 02 03:59:29 hm, seems so Oct 02 04:00:05 Halt And Catch Fire the TV Series is awesome Oct 02 04:02:02 lasserix_ did you see the android firechat reviews ? Oct 02 04:02:04 "Doesn't work A a friend and me just installed; Sony Xperia Z1 and Samsung Galaxy S4, both running kitkat" Oct 02 04:03:38 i'm going to keep my eye on the opengarden thing , if they can make that robust it would be aweseom Oct 02 04:04:26 hmm Oct 02 04:04:45 so it looks like in reality you need to code up a c++ server client interface Oct 02 04:05:36 lasserix_ straight from opengarden Oct 02 04:05:38 http://forum.opengarden.com/discussion/455/open-garden-wifi-direct/p1 Oct 02 04:05:54 "Currently the WiFi direct implementation is buggy in Android and the problems you are experiencing with the connections dropping are due to that." Oct 02 04:06:13 hehe Oct 02 04:06:15 get an iphone if you want reliable p2p :) Oct 02 04:06:37 they can't do anything about chipset incompatibilities Oct 02 04:07:37 all those poor demostraters in HK using firechat on android probably in jail since they didn't get some important memo Oct 02 04:12:27 This app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opengarden.android.MeshClient ? Oct 02 05:05:50 no Oct 02 05:05:51 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opengarden.firechat Oct 02 05:06:02 but they are based on same opengarden tek Oct 02 05:09:52 g00s how is bluetoth for doing p2p? Oct 02 05:10:57 how can I get reference to googlemap in fragment activtiy and show this map on different fragment Oct 02 05:11:17 lasserix_ rfcomm works OK, but it doesn't work well for more than 1 connection. 2 probably OK, 3 ... iffy Oct 02 05:11:30 #connectiosn depends on chipset, device Oct 02 05:12:24 BLE is ... about as good as wifi direct, kinda iffy Oct 02 05:20:13 lasserix_ android L has BLE peripheral mode for android Oct 02 05:20:25 i don't think you could use BLE android to android atm Oct 02 05:20:58 atm , it only implements central role Oct 02 05:38:44 In fragmentactivity I implement locationlistener. I have different fragments. One fragment is google map. When location is changed I'm drawing a marker on map if google map fragment is visible (I implement interface). I want to know how can I update my map when google map fragment is not visible Oct 02 05:52:20 is it possible to change actionbar menu in onCreate() method of activity ? Oct 02 05:52:37 instead of onCreateOptionsMenu Oct 02 05:53:18 the reasoning is that I get data from the intent launching the activity - which needs to be set in a toggle button on the action bar Oct 02 05:54:24 the question about code refactoring. How to make those 2 methods http://pastie.org/9612371 as one? Oct 02 05:55:55 or can i assume that onCreateOptionsMenu will get called *AFTER* onCreate is finished Oct 02 05:56:06 and i can set something in onCreate that i can refer to in onCreateOptionsMenu ? Oct 02 06:37:11 sylon, the intent is available at all times, not just in onCreate Oct 02 06:37:14 kamol, easy Oct 02 06:37:33 ravilov: huh? Oct 02 06:38:15 you asked a question, didn't you? now you just got an answer Oct 02 06:41:28 ravilov: I am just trying to make those two methods into one generic Oct 02 06:42:26 is something not clear with my answer? ;) Oct 02 06:42:35 you asked how, I said easy Oct 02 06:48:26 kamol, http://pastie.org/9613062 Oct 02 06:48:31 told you it's east Oct 02 06:48:32 y Oct 02 06:49:09 ravilov: shit! it is awesome! Oct 02 06:49:18 o_o Oct 02 06:49:26 Kinky Oct 02 06:49:31 ravilov: thank you man! Oct 02 06:50:14 I have an nfc tag that I want to put a record on to access the google play store. Would I put the package name, a market:// url? what kind of url would I use? Oct 02 07:19:25 ravilov: thanks for the tip Oct 02 07:37:51 bilb_ono: i believe a market URL, or a http link to play store, would be best Oct 02 07:38:27 Is it possible to put an actionview before the title in the actionbar? Oct 02 07:40:35 hi, how can I include other project's code with Android.mk? (instead of adding "android.library.reference.1=path/to/library_projectA" to project.properties Oct 02 07:40:46 Hi Oct 02 07:41:40 some body know where I can find some documentation for wifi porting device? Oct 02 07:42:25 I want use a rt2571wf Oct 02 07:43:11 my driver is it work (rt73.ko) Oct 02 07:44:10 but it see that I din't had the good wpa_suplant lib Oct 02 07:45:31 wrong channel Oct 02 07:45:39 go to #android-root Oct 02 07:46:35 ravilov: thank i go to #android-root Oct 02 08:17:39 Hi guys is anyone here using AndEngine? If yes could you tell me is it possible to change some parameters in shaderProgram whitout setting new ShaderProgram to sprite? Oct 02 08:41:53 <_abc_> Bah I looked for this channel for 5 minutes since your channel name is -dev not -devel ... Oct 02 08:43:35 <_abc_> Can someone please enlighten me about Bluetooth support via internal or USB OTG? In general, if a device has OTG then a small hub can be connected, containing a 3G modem stick and possibly a BT dongle if internal BT is not supported, right? Is this fully supported by default in 2.x and 4.x ? Or does it depend on device. My interest is with external BT keyboards/mice and and also SPP profile for serial data devices like gps mice and more. Oct 02 08:43:54 <_abc_> Tia, I'll wait for answers. The net is a little lacking in answers, I searched before. Oct 02 08:46:12 hi Oct 02 08:46:39 if someone steals my phone and can't get through the lock screen, would they still be able to get into my gmail, facebook, etc.? Oct 02 08:47:18 that is, could they copy the system files and produce an environment in which authentication is valid? Oct 02 08:48:06 is that an app dev question? :) Oct 02 08:48:37 Mavrik, well i'm trying to see which files would be the culprit should such authentication be possible Oct 02 08:50:23 <_abc_> Okay so it seems even tiny OTG hubs are made, but what about support on the programming side? Oct 02 08:51:44 kate_r: if you have usb debug enabled without ADB signature authentication, yes Oct 02 08:52:21 or if the bootloader is volunerable Oct 02 08:52:57 wasn't L supposed to switch to "encrypt device by default"? Oct 02 08:54:17 Yeah p_l Oct 02 08:54:56 if usb debug is enabled, would authentication be done by injecting their app into my phone? Oct 02 08:55:14 <_abc_> ref: https://gigaom.com/2010/02/17/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/ so one needs to reboot the phone to put the usb subsystem in OTG mode? Oct 02 08:55:17 or would they fish files out of my phone into their emulator? Oct 02 08:56:11 _abc_, no. Oct 02 08:56:46 <_abc_> Sigh. Pretty please, a pointer to authoritative documentation on OTG mode wrt programming? Search engine fail on my side. Oct 02 08:56:56 kate_r: older OS versions didn't have ADB authentication, which allowed people to connect to usb_debug enabled phones and fish data from them Oct 02 08:57:02 <_abc_> I mean, detecting present USB devices, etc., from program side. Oct 02 08:57:37 Has anyone messed with cookies and webview? Oct 02 08:57:46 _abc_: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/usb/host.html Oct 02 08:57:52 <_abc_> thanks Oct 02 08:57:57 _abc_: that's what is included in official APIs Oct 02 08:58:08 I'm trying to load local html data, either from file or string, and I can't attach cookies Oct 02 08:58:08 <_abc_> okay, I am going to read that now. Oct 02 08:58:40 tried with both webview.loadUrl(...) and webview.loadDataWithBaseURL(...) Oct 02 09:00:12 hi, i know there are better fixes but i'm looking for a quick one: I have an issue with ActivityA running and starting another ActivityA from a notification on top, ActivityA is set to SingleTop and I want it to still have 2 instances on the stack Oct 02 09:00:32 is this something where affinity could help? i'm not sure after reading about affinity what it does Oct 02 09:04:47 anyone with VPN experience here? I just want to confirm the tunneling protocol has to be implemented by the app and there is no ready-made solutions offered by the API. Is that right? Oct 02 09:06:08 are cookies ignored when loading local data into a webview? Oct 02 09:07:44 <_abc_> Would Bluetooth (BT) support for a BT dongle have to be treated differently if the BT device is built in, or if it is attached to a USB OTG cable? Iow, will Android detect the BT device and have it work asap using BT apis even if OTG connected dongle? Oct 02 09:08:47 <_abc_> (aside: is a marshalled representation a form of serialized representation) Oct 02 09:10:57 _abc_: unless the firmware is constructed to do so, BT dongle won't work with BT APIs (you'd have to reimplement driving it in your app) Oct 02 09:11:12 <_abc_> ugh. Okay, that is not good news, but... Oct 02 09:11:19 <_abc_> Thanks Oct 02 09:11:32 <_abc_> And how can one find out if "the firmware is constructed so"? Oct 02 09:12:10 <_abc_> I have the impression most tablets with no internal BT readily accept a USB BT dongle on the OTG cable and immediately allow external HID devices to work, like keyboards. Oct 02 09:12:15 <_abc_> Some seem to require reboot. Oct 02 09:12:27 <_abc_> Is there a way to find out? What search term am I looking for? Oct 02 09:14:27 c03, why are you using cookies if you're using html files from your assets? Oct 02 09:15:07 VnM: because my html contains javascript that needs to call external sources with the cookies from the http request Oct 02 09:16:09 _abc_: unfortunately it's hit'n'miss - If they have the driver for standard BT-USB interface, their BT stack might pick it up (sometimes might require a reboot so that it's present when framework boots) Oct 02 09:16:51 I don't think you can use cookies when you're loading html into your WebView from your assets, if it's possible for your case I would suggest using a JavascriptInterface and storing/retrieving the data you need in say SharedPreferences Oct 02 09:19:02 c03: CookieManager? Oct 02 09:20:50 <_abc_> p_l: Yes. So the only way to find out is to try each device? Plus, it might change with fw/rom version?! Oct 02 09:21:07 unfortunately, yes Oct 02 09:21:24 <_abc_> p_l: I am sure someone did some cyanogen device list hack which might answer the question dynamically. Any ideas what I am looking for? app name or project? Oct 02 09:22:34 no idea Oct 02 09:22:42 VnM: not possible, I need to supply the backend load balancer with a routeid cookie. Oct 02 09:23:07 it goes waaay beyond the scope of the application developement - the firmware builder is responsible for such things and reporting whether or not they have BT capability Oct 02 09:23:37 c03: CookieManager Oct 02 09:23:47 danijoo: what about it? Oct 02 09:23:59 <_abc_> p_l: Wait, this goes beyond reporting BT connectivity capability. Oct 02 09:24:06 you can set cookies to your webview with that Oct 02 09:24:24 <_abc_> I basically have to build both usb device discovery and bt via that, and normal bt api into my app. Oct 02 09:24:27 <_abc_> That SUCKS Oct 02 09:24:47 <_abc_> And even after that, I can't tell X via website whether his device supports the thing, until after he tries Oct 02 09:24:55 is this something where affinity could help? i'm not sure after reading about affinity what it does anyone knows? Oct 02 09:24:55 _abc_: yes. But generally, USB OTG support for applications is equivalent of having libusb Oct 02 09:25:03 danijoo: yes. and when my webview loads content from either a string or a local file, they get ignored Oct 02 09:25:26 I basically want NEW_TASK_FLAG to actually do what it says, not call onNewIntent in the existing one Oct 02 09:25:29 <_abc_> p_l: So if I have a USB OTG attached BT will it still be available through the standard BT api? Oct 02 09:25:49 _abc_: only if the firmware supports it Oct 02 09:25:54 And when it's hosted somewhere not inside your app it works right c03? Oct 02 09:26:01 <_abc_> p_l: The api has a defaultAdapter() function, I assume there should be a way to see *more* adapters if available? Oct 02 09:26:08 VnM: yup, just checked Oct 02 09:26:24 looks like I need to write a tiny webserver Oct 02 09:27:04 c03: can you show the code? Im prettty sure this must work somehow.. Oct 02 09:27:06 _abc_: possible. It's just that the firmware needs to handle the "oh, I've got a BTUSB device, let's load the driver and make sure BT stack picks it up!" Oct 02 09:27:08 at least it shoould Oct 02 09:27:21 any here who disagrees with my research that Jackson is best choice for JSON data parsing/reading Oct 02 09:27:24 <_abc_> p_l: Oh, the stack may pick it up AFTER you load it manually?! Oct 02 09:27:27 <_abc_> $deity Oct 02 09:27:42 hi! is anyone having problems with ndk-r10 and nrk-r10b, linking libraries in Linux? https://code.google.com/p/ics-openvpn/issues/detail?id=288 Oct 02 09:27:54 _abc_: it's all in bowels of firmware that is supposed to be abstracted from applications Oct 02 09:28:07 <_abc_> I put my hopes in the sanity of original developers and their need to be able to use a OTG attached usb keyboard or other hid device. Fingers crossed. Oct 02 09:28:29 ha ha ha.... Oct 02 09:28:36 <_abc_> ouch, that hurts Oct 02 09:28:41 lol Oct 02 09:28:44 _abc_: USB *HID* typically works, afaik Oct 02 09:28:54 danijoo: sure, I set the cookies like here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1652850/android-webview-cookie-problem Oct 02 09:29:00 <_abc_> Yeah but apparently usb attached bt hid *also* mostly works Oct 02 09:29:11 <_abc_> See plethora of bt keyboards and mice used with tablets Oct 02 09:29:13 danijoo: which works fine when contacting the server Oct 02 09:29:28 danijoo: when I then load local data, the cookies are not attached to the request Oct 02 09:29:33 _abc_: BT HID works fine, USB-attached BT host controllers are the problem Oct 02 09:29:35 <_abc_> I *so* wish there would be some way to document these features using some code/keywords which are searchable. Oct 02 09:30:21 <_abc_> Managing 2000 types of phones without a nominal canonical system makes herding cats seem simple by comparison. Oct 02 09:30:50 <_abc_> I am sure iFruit has 20 suffix letters and codes in the serial number to indicate these features. Oct 02 09:31:07 <_abc_> (everyone else has too, Cisco, IBM, everyone) Oct 02 09:31:11 O.o Oct 02 09:31:22 are these features even supported by android at all? Oct 02 09:31:30 officialy? Oct 02 09:31:38 <_abc_> Which ones Mavrik? We've been talking about this for half an hour. Oct 02 09:31:46 anything OTG related Oct 02 09:31:58 <_abc_> Sure. OTG is USB 2.0 standard and in Android since 3.x Oct 02 09:32:13 no I mean Oct 02 09:32:15 Mavrik: Officially? It's outside scope. Firmware builders are allowed to do whatever they want in this case, including supporting external GPS units etc.etc. Oct 02 09:32:16 <_abc_> Read the backlog, p_l posted a direct link to the api Oct 02 09:32:33 official CTS requirement for which peripherials must devices provide working drivers and API support? Oct 02 09:32:36 libusb-level OTG support is there with official API Oct 02 09:32:38 Hello guys, I have an app with actionbar and it contains 4 pages using tabs and viewpager. Than my boss said he wants also to show camera picture. So I added another page for it. Than my boss said, he wants the camera page not to be part of the tabs. So I removed the tabs and added a spinner on the actionabr. But than he said he likes to have the tabs back, but the camera as a separate activity. Oct 02 09:33:09 Mavrik: I believe OTG support requires USBHID and usb-storage being supported + libusb api Oct 02 09:33:41 <_abc_> Well makers DO say in phone specs they have OTG (or not) Oct 02 09:34:00 <_abc_> Also I wonder why the heck every crap $30 phone can have BT but tablets which are at least $60 do not. Oct 02 09:34:09 huh Oct 02 09:34:13 <_abc_> It is *annoying* Oct 02 09:34:14 isn't BT CTS requirement? Oct 02 09:34:14 Now the problem comes, I have a continue bluetooth connection through all my pages, if I start my activity, things get a bit complex. I put my bluetooth connection in a fragment, so in another activity, I have to somehow deal with the bluetooth connection. How? Oct 02 09:34:23 e.g. you can't build a CTS conformant device without BT at all? Oct 02 09:34:25 <_abc_> Been reading phone specs ad nauseam trying to see a pattern. Oct 02 09:35:01 What's the best way to keep your IO connection in a fragment throught Activity's? Oct 02 09:35:07 <_abc_> Anarchy is here, I am telling you. Oct 02 09:35:37 would it be a good idea to do json parsing on UI thread Oct 02 09:35:49 or runnable to avoid anr Oct 02 09:36:07 Looney, if parsing, why not. As long as you're not doing any IO activities. Oct 02 09:36:18 Looney: depends on size Oct 02 09:36:19 <_abc_> https://github.com/mik3y/usb-serial-for-android this is tangently relevant, USB serial devices on OTG port, also shows what needs to be done to support 'unknown' devices on the go, i.e. force a driver (or try to). Oct 02 09:36:38 no IO Oct 02 09:36:53 no point to write an extra thread for {"foo":"bar"}, but if its like 10k key, values... Oct 02 09:37:01 size can be show stopper Oct 02 09:37:04 Looney, if you json is not too big and complex, you can do it in the UI. Oct 02 09:37:32 Number5: unless you have a citywide telephone book in json :) Oct 02 09:37:35 My experience is, get things working and don't make your code too complex. Oct 02 09:37:40 what you said meant that make a runnable Oct 02 09:38:17 danijoo, in that case you shouldn't use Android for that. Use a serious Linux server :) Oct 02 09:38:56 Number5: we once had a guy here that had literally 5k contacts in its addressbook Oct 02 09:39:20 and he wanted to work with that in an app and was wondering why its crashing when he load them in memory all together Oct 02 09:39:23 danijoo, wow, that's a lot Oct 02 09:39:56 yeah i wondered if he might added his whole city.. ^^ Oct 02 09:40:03 maybe because the app was loading all the picture at once Oct 02 09:40:30 <_abc_> Depending on city, that will crash any phone imho Oct 02 09:40:36 <_abc_> Or at least the app Oct 02 09:40:44 <_abc_> There are cities with 20+ million people in them Oct 02 09:40:48 yeah we marked it down to the usual oom Oct 02 09:40:52 <_abc_> My country's population is slightly smaller Oct 02 09:41:09 yeah, here we have about 600.000 people Oct 02 09:43:04 <_abc_> http://www.tombom.co.uk/blog/?p=124 wow the scary hacks makers make necessary to enable *almost* available built in functioality Oct 02 09:55:18 <_abc_> p_l: My current take is, that anything with Droid >4.x with OTG plug and no internal BT, is BT capable if that is connected via OTG. Or almost anything. Oct 02 10:05:48 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16902716/comparison-of-android-networking-libraries-okhttp-retrofit-volley Oct 02 10:06:16 any similar but better comparison anyone else has come across Oct 02 10:06:27 asking from json perspective mainly Oct 02 10:10:49 is retrofit the best http://instructure.github.io/blog/2013/12/09/volley-vs-retrofit/ Oct 02 10:11:33 ravilov: hi, sorry again, it doesn’t work in this case http://pastie.org/9613462 Oct 02 10:12:12 huh? Oct 02 10:12:36 ok, well... I gave you a sample solution, the rest is up to you to research and learn what you don't know Oct 02 10:13:03 ravilov: it is generics? Oct 02 10:13:30 (hint: you most likely cannot create fragments using default constructors) Oct 02 10:13:35 is there a way to put some text above a Switch button? Oct 02 10:13:44 Has google closed down? Oct 02 10:13:55 Looney: retrofit is great Oct 02 10:14:00 also, what is the point of (cls)? you really need some heavy googling to do, kamol Oct 02 10:14:23 thanks danijoo Oct 02 10:14:23 s/need/have/ Oct 02 10:14:32 going to start coding on idea Oct 02 10:14:42 wanted to get the best available options Oct 02 10:14:50 what say you about okhttp Oct 02 10:15:20 ravilov: googling :) tq Oct 02 10:16:48 if a phone supports Bluetooth LE, does android automatically use the BLE SDK to connect to BLE devices? that is, does android automatically utilise the low energy capabilities of BLE devices that are hooked up? Oct 02 10:17:43 seeing javadoc, I learn that it is more suited for REST danijoo Oct 02 10:18:13 i have the file IInAppBilling.aidl in com.android.vending.billing, and it shows up in the project browser (android studio), but i get “cannot resolve symbol” when importing Oct 02 10:27:22 retrofit is sophisticated, gotta give it to devs Oct 02 10:28:09 Looney: Any Client is fine. I prefer OkHttp though Oct 02 10:29:30 is it as sophisticated as retrofit Oct 02 10:30:14 yeah Oct 02 10:30:41 in case of any, there is default one as well Oct 02 10:30:49 httpurlconnection I guess Oct 02 10:32:26 it uses okhttpclient by default i think ;) Oct 02 10:33:55 Looney, maybe you should try doing it in JNI, that's sure to have low sophistication level :p Oct 02 10:34:41 ^^' Oct 02 10:35:12 hehehe, yup, gotta starting building libcurl Oct 02 10:35:26 oh my god.. Oct 02 10:40:05 i’m trying to add IInAppBillingService.aidl to my project, but i get errors when importing it… i simply copied the file into the directory structure com.android.vending.billing in my project… but there’s errors when trying to import it Oct 02 10:40:21 what else do i need to do to make my project be aware of this file? Oct 02 10:41:18 it must be java path Oct 02 10:42:21 what do you mean? Oct 02 10:43:56 i mean /src folder Oct 02 10:44:25 ultra- what exactly are you importing ? or attempting to import ? Oct 02 10:44:58 in the src/java/com folder in my project, it has my project folder, and the android folder (and so on with /android/vending/billing/IInAppBillingService.aidl) Oct 02 10:45:06 and it shows up correctly in my project structure Oct 02 10:45:13 StingRay_: the in app billing helper file Oct 02 10:45:21 ok so where is that ? Oct 02 10:45:32 cause you can have it anywhere Oct 02 10:45:43 it must be src/java/andorid/vending..... Oct 02 10:46:00 danijoo I dont think so Oct 02 10:46:15 yeah im wrong ^^' Oct 02 10:46:19 it’s in src/main/java/com… my project is in there too, and that all works fine Oct 02 10:46:20 misread the path. Oct 02 10:46:22 yep Oct 02 10:46:32 you add it like a normal java file Oct 02 10:46:36 so from com, it splits off to either my project or android.vending.billing Oct 02 10:46:43 yep Oct 02 10:47:50 autocomplete for “import com.android.vending.billing” even works, but IInAppBillingService.aidl doesn’t show up at the end of it, even though the file is there Oct 02 10:48:05 erm Oct 02 10:48:07 cannot resolve symbol for that Oct 02 10:48:13 I think you need to re-read what you need to do Oct 02 10:48:20 you do not import that Oct 02 10:48:21 rebuild project Oct 02 10:48:57 the util files it says to copy over do need to import that… i changed the package to mine instead of the original one from the example app Oct 02 10:49:17 why do you keep referencing the aidl Oct 02 10:49:20 forget that now Oct 02 10:49:38 what is actually failing ? Oct 02 10:50:03 in the helper is "com.android.vending.billing.IInAppBillingService" failing ? Oct 02 10:50:04 import com.android.vending.billing.IInAppBillingService; Oct 02 10:50:10 i see that there are apps like SkipLock that sets up a passphrase lock which is to be taken down to become a slider if certain conditions are met. is it possible to take passphrase lock down to become a pattern lock? Oct 02 10:50:14 it looks like it’s an sdk version error, brb Oct 02 10:50:16 without root Oct 02 10:51:21 yeah after a clean i got an error about the sdk build tools version, so i’m updating that Oct 02 10:52:36 kate_r not sure I understand what you are asking Oct 02 10:53:09 but if it is what I think it is, then erm….obviously, if you do the app you can make it into a game of checkers if you want Oct 02 10:54:07 StingRay_, as in, apps like SkipLock sets the phone to use a slider lock rather than a passphrase when certain conditions are met, e.g., connected to home wifi Oct 02 10:54:24 kate_r it's just an app Oct 02 10:54:25 StingRay_, but i wonder if the slider could be replaced by something slightly more secured like a pattern lock Oct 02 10:54:33 does that answer your question ? Oct 02 10:54:58 StingRay_, but doesn't the SDK prevent fiddling with the screen lock? Oct 02 10:55:09 not if you are a screen lock app Oct 02 10:55:18 sorry, lockscreen Oct 02 10:55:29 asaik Oct 02 10:55:38 afaik* Oct 02 10:55:54 StingRay_, but there aren't apps that allow customisation of the screen locking mechanism, right? Oct 02 10:56:07 for non-root phones Oct 02 10:56:29 this is not a modding channel Oct 02 10:56:31 this is app dev Oct 02 10:56:36 yeah Oct 02 10:56:47 so forget about attempting to mod other apps Oct 02 10:56:57 or rather someone elses app Oct 02 10:57:16 http://www.androidtipsz.com/8-best-free-lock-screen-replacement-apps-for-android Oct 02 10:57:37 go have a look at lock screen apps for inspiration if you want Oct 02 10:57:39 no, i'm not trying to mod other apps. i'm just going through the sdk to see if something could be done to reimplement something like Skiplock but to have a pattern lock in "trusted areas" rather than the existing slider Oct 02 10:58:01 kate_r you can have what you want … it would be your app Oct 02 10:59:16 ok, when rebuilding i get “package com.android.vending.billing” does not exist, but i know it’s in the correct folders Oct 02 10:59:30 StingRay_, well, AFAIK, the SDK won't allow a pattern lock to be taken down and be replaced. neither could a face lock be taken down and be replaced. Oct 02 10:59:41 AFAIK, there are some rather ad-hoc restrictions Oct 02 11:00:02 kate_r but there are lockscreen replacements Oct 02 11:00:05 right ? Oct 02 11:00:21 that is a question btw, I dont even lock any of my phones :) Oct 02 11:01:23 StingRay_, and you feel safe? :) Oct 02 11:01:30 guys Oct 02 11:01:44 me, yeah, I have a boat load of shotguns behind me Oct 02 11:01:50 i've installed eclipse + adt + sdk on linux but there's not appcompat_v7 project Oct 02 11:01:52 where is it? Oct 02 11:01:57 dont care much for the phone though ;) Oct 02 11:02:50 i made a project, when i click finish, nothing happens, however it has created the project, but millions of errors, seems like api or something isn't imported Oct 02 11:02:53 well, my phone is hooked up to too many of my accounts Oct 02 11:11:20 once i create a new package in android studio, all i should have to do is copy files into the directory, right? Oct 02 12:06:11 I launch an activity from a notification using a pending intent. But if my app is already in foreground, the launched activity doesn't draw the UI fully. Oct 02 12:06:51 can someone take a look : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8478777/ Oct 02 12:15:52 What would be a good place to suggest a feature for the official Gmail app? Oct 02 12:17:23 skfax: theres a feedback button in the app Oct 02 12:17:51 Hey. I want to make a listview like this one - http://s2.postimg.org/uf48nojh5/img.png . What is the best way to do it? Oct 02 12:18:01 danijoo: Cool thanks, I'll try that Oct 02 12:18:18 Bpaul: listview. Oct 02 12:18:33 wats the question in there? Oct 02 12:18:50 think you're in the wrong group. via http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+to+make+suggestions+for+gmail+app+android : http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/343431-gmail-app-suggestions-android.html Oct 02 12:18:54 danijoo: I know listview, but how.. when is selected it should be like that with a corner. Oct 02 12:19:07 Bpaul: Add listeners Oct 02 12:19:22 danijoo: listeners for clicks i guess, and next what? Oct 02 12:19:37 Bpaul actually it's a stateListDrawable Oct 02 12:19:40 Next what? Oct 02 12:19:48 Are you referrring to the style or how to process clicks? Oct 02 12:19:56 change color/background on click Oct 02 12:19:59 or use a selector Oct 02 12:20:10 Listen. I want to make a listview like one in the photo. How can I make a shape like that one? Oct 02 12:20:13 that changes background depending on focus state Oct 02 12:20:29 I made a selector, but when nothing is selected is transparent.. Oct 02 12:20:38 then you made it wrong. Oct 02 12:21:08 And what should I put at the selected state? To look like that rectangle with an extra corner? Oct 02 12:21:21 http://developer.android.com/reference/java/nio/channels/Selector.html Oct 02 12:21:31 one png without corner, one with corner Oct 02 12:21:39 danijoo oh I think he's asking how to make the shape lol Oct 02 12:21:44 he is. Oct 02 12:21:53 then the answer is "draw it" ^^' Oct 02 12:22:07 fk sake there should be a course on being able to ask questions…. and you should need to pass it to enter Oct 02 12:22:09 i've already drew it..but i'm not sure is the best ideea Oct 02 12:22:13 #paint for help :p Oct 02 12:22:35 StingRay_: and one to google Oct 02 12:22:45 It IS getting insane in here. "I have a great idea for an app .. how do I program it". Oct 02 12:23:31 rgr does seem like more of the questions are indirect and require personal tuition to answer properly Oct 02 12:23:54 problem is people come in without really knowing what they want. Oct 02 12:23:58 point them to the android dev tutorials and be done. Oct 02 12:24:09 There are no shortcuts. Do the groundwork then ask specifics. Oct 02 12:24:18 My selector - http://pastebin.com/4EVxKcQT . The output is the next, the selected is as i want but, the others are transparent. Oct 02 12:25:02 Bpaul read more, cause there are many more states and combined states you need to use Oct 02 12:25:22 Output is like : http://i.snag.gy/D6ENc.jpg Oct 02 12:26:05 StingRay_: the last item with no state isn't the default one ? That should be when there is no state? Oct 02 12:26:48 Bpaul not sure, think you have to do a wildcard state, but I dont use xml so… bit clueless really Oct 02 12:27:21 well when I do stateListDrawabes for the same thing, the view and parentView dictate the states that are used Oct 02 12:28:07 xml doesn't have things such as 'wildcard' .. Oct 02 12:28:22 well example for me would be toggle button with StateSet.WILD_CARD Oct 02 12:28:45 and obviously state_checked as the alternate state Oct 02 12:29:04 most of the time state_enabled will do Oct 02 12:29:06 http://www.michenux.net/android-listview-highlight-selected-item-387.html Oct 02 12:29:27 there you go. again i did the google for someone.. Oct 02 12:29:51 Bpaul but looks like you just need a background color to the listView really Oct 02 12:30:00 rather than another shade operation on every item Oct 02 12:30:39 listVIew.setBackgroundColor(Color.shittyBrown) kinda thing Oct 02 12:30:58 to get that being visually what you want Oct 02 12:32:46 StingRay_: http://i.snag.gy/1Nfvz.jpg ... Oct 02 12:34:15 paste what you want again Oct 02 12:34:24 my chat cleared for some odd reason Oct 02 12:36:39 anyone with VPN experience here to share insights? Oct 02 12:36:52 is it possible to make router out of android? Oct 02 12:37:14 squ: yes Oct 02 12:37:19 why am I getting unknownhostexception for api.reddit.com Oct 02 12:37:39 squ, you're talking about wifi hotspot? Oct 02 12:37:49 https://api.reddit.com/r/iama/new Oct 02 12:37:52 nisargtha: yes Oct 02 12:38:15 Looney, forgot INTERNET permission? :) Oct 02 12:38:23 nope Oct 02 12:38:30 I have it in my activity tag Oct 02 12:38:37 *inside Oct 02 12:38:52 squ, you can see the option in settings for that. Are you referring to something else? Oct 02 12:39:13 nisargtha: I'm curious about customizing it Oct 02 12:39:14 should it be outside Oct 02 12:39:45 nisargtha: applying firewall filter, installing protocols, services? Oct 02 12:40:51 squ, i have no clue about that. maybe someone with more experience might be able to help you out Oct 02 12:40:57 Looney, uses permission is usually in the application, not activity tag :) Oct 02 12:41:13 nisargtha: thank you Oct 02 12:41:24 yup Oct 02 12:41:36 Hi Guys. Got myself Nexus 5, figured that within add-on dictionaries it doesn't have Ukrainian. I'm eager to add it, if that's possible. Can you say if that's possible for me to initiate it's creation? Oct 02 12:41:44 cheated on it from an existing manifest :-P Oct 02 12:42:37 sevenfourk, honesly I think it's way easier to just install SwiftKey keyboard with Ukranian language Oct 02 12:48:26 for now yes, but would not be that cool if another lang be prepared for install in future versions ? Oct 02 12:48:57 Does it depent on community which uses android devices in this language? Oct 02 12:49:04 StingRay_: i want to make a listview like this one .. http://s2.postimg.org/uf48nojh5/img.png without using images .. Oct 02 12:49:24