**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 03 03:00:00 2014 Oct 03 03:00:04 JacobTabak: Thank you :D Oct 03 03:00:14 MalekAlrwily: your IDE probably defaulted to include support lib Oct 03 03:00:32 probably Oct 03 03:00:39 that's right Oct 03 03:13:19 mornin' Oct 03 03:16:52 hey alex_PP long time no see Oct 03 03:17:04 yeah, been busy Oct 03 03:17:15 well, actually the opposite of busy Oct 03 03:17:22 been on holiday and whatnot Oct 03 03:18:27 hows the photography going ? Oct 03 03:19:14 pretty well Oct 03 03:19:21 had a bit of a misshap though Oct 03 03:19:57 bought a 580EX ii to play with only to have it stolen along with all my 35mm cameras a week later Oct 03 03:20:31 * g00s googles 580ex Oct 03 03:21:01 flash Oct 03 03:21:03 sorry about your loss Oct 03 03:21:09 yeah thats terrible Oct 03 03:21:17 not the end of the world Oct 03 03:21:21 when out travelling, gotta have your stuff real close Oct 03 03:21:33 it was at home Oct 03 03:21:35 break in Oct 03 03:21:51 not a huge amount of value gone Oct 03 03:21:54 even spookier Oct 03 03:21:56 the 580 was the most pricey but Oct 03 03:21:58 *bit Oct 03 03:22:00 glad you are OK then Oct 03 03:22:15 im gonna drop this here one more time Oct 03 03:22:20 just pushed it tonight, want feedback Oct 03 03:22:21 https://github.com/timehop/sticky-headers-recyclerview Oct 03 03:22:24 most pissed off about the EOS 3, a friend gave it to me Oct 03 03:22:39 hello im wondering what kind of list/view table view style is this called with grouping and dividers like such. http://grab.by/ATZE and how can i got about implimenting this would i need a tableview inside a listview? would that work? Oct 03 03:23:28 alex_PP at photkina some cool new stuff announced; like the canon G7x and panasonic dmc-LX100 Oct 03 03:23:44 *photokina Oct 03 03:23:55 jaspertheghost - just linearlayout with xml drawable backgrounds Oct 03 03:24:56 you can do shapes with rounded corners Oct 03 03:25:03 i could do that in 10 min Oct 03 03:25:22 g00s: i want a 7Dii now, and a gopro 4 Oct 03 03:25:30 but that'll all have to wait Oct 03 03:25:58 not sure I really have a use for a gopro beyond strapping it to my daughter and sending her off Oct 03 03:26:28 alex_PP man that replaced the 7D from 2009 ? took them enough time :| Oct 03 03:26:37 meanwhile sony has been kicking their ass Oct 03 03:26:37 say i wanted it in a listadpater though cause i need to iterate a list of stuff … i can create the shape which would have the dividers in here … how would u handle expanding for text etc … Oct 03 03:26:51 adjusting the height of it .. or no adjusting height? Oct 03 03:27:05 it would be fixed? Oct 03 03:27:16 well, have you ever tied to use a sony? Oct 03 03:27:23 IQ isn't everything Oct 03 03:27:34 jaspertheghost shape drawables are scalable Oct 03 03:27:40 they're like automatic 9 patches Oct 03 03:27:53 that you don't need to provide different assets for different densities Oct 03 03:28:29 alex_PP i played with a few, that all had different UIs :/ Oct 03 03:29:05 exactly, EOSs have been the same since the 80s(?) which is awesome Oct 03 03:29:14 I have a very strange problem here. If I launch an acitivity from a notification, and if the app is currently in foreground, the launched activity does not draw the UI completely. The views does not appear at all, just the background layout only is displayed. I couldn't find similar situations on stackoverflow.!! :( Oct 03 03:29:18 Jacob.. if i wanted it to press down on clicking i would need to create a pressdown image? Oct 03 03:29:26 JacobTabak, that lib looks ok Oct 03 03:29:34 nothing glaringly wrong with it that i can see Oct 03 03:29:38 jaspertheghost you can use a state list drawable with a different state for pressed Oct 03 03:30:04 alex_PP thanks, hoping someone will be interested enough to actually try to implement something with it Oct 03 03:30:36 line 105: use instanceof? Oct 03 03:31:00 alex_PP not a bad idea Oct 03 03:31:05 line 149: i'd use the simper if Oct 03 03:31:07 Can someone help me with my prob? Let me know if code needs to inspected. Oct 03 03:31:10 alex_PP hm, $1800 for an APS-C sensor ... Oct 03 03:31:27 alex_PP do you have lenses already for that format ? Oct 03 03:31:31 yeah, but a man sized af sytem, weather sealing, blah blah blah Oct 03 03:31:36 lol alex_PP i was trying to avoid an ugly multiline if Oct 03 03:31:57 supress warnings is ugly too :P Oct 03 03:32:14 no EFS specific Oct 03 03:32:24 there's nothing ugly about multiline if Oct 03 03:32:26 but my 70-200 would work nicely on it Oct 03 03:32:35 seems like im going to need to know a bit about graphic design to pull this off no? Oct 03 03:32:37 5d + 24-70 for closer stuff Oct 03 03:32:40 but yea i can keep it <100 chars Oct 03 03:32:40 so i will Oct 03 03:33:52 i want to sell my 24-70 though, and buy a big pile of primes Oct 03 03:34:33 jaspertheghost: are you trying to make it look exactly like apple or just something 'like' that pic? Oct 03 03:35:55 something like that pic pretty damn close to that pic Oct 03 03:36:19 does anyone know what causes java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError whenever i do adView.loadAd(adRequest); it only happens on my lenovo ideapad (running android 3.2.1) and i suppose other android devices with the same version Oct 03 03:36:42 i am about to take on a project that needs to look good, and have that style of lists etc.. and i have no experience building ui stuff like this Oct 03 03:36:44 jaspertheghost: is there a specific reason? it's pretty poor form to be producing apps that look like that Oct 03 03:38:04 i just really want to be able ro make grouped sections like that where the background color is visiable to serpate out the grouped items Oct 03 03:38:53 i need to figure out how to make buttons look like this Oct 03 03:38:54 http://grab.by/ATVC Oct 03 03:39:06 and that when i click the item it slides to the next screen Oct 03 03:41:56 so you want custom button styles and animations Oct 03 03:42:11 doesn't seem like a big deal Oct 03 03:42:16 thoughts? http://flyingsoft.pw/ad%201%201024x768.png Oct 03 03:42:35 android supports both easily Oct 03 03:44:02 i hope i can figure this all out within a reasonable period of time… i never been good on design Oct 03 03:44:15 and furing out layouts on android has been difficult for me Oct 03 03:44:36 especially layed .. layouts within layouts... Oct 03 03:46:11 alex_PP what do you think about the canon EOS SL1 ? Oct 03 03:47:17 like when should i use a relative layout vs a linear layout … are there only 3 kinds of layouts linear, relative and linear? Oct 03 03:48:10 g00s, looks cute with the 40STM on it, be a nice chuck in a bag and take everywhere camera Oct 03 03:48:11 so badass that SL1 comes in white, i'd totally get that for the desert maybe it doesn't cook so badly in the sun Oct 03 03:48:21 to be honest, i didn't notice it get released Oct 03 03:48:36 yeeah, i dont want mirrors and prisms any more :| Oct 03 03:48:45 it'll take the new 24STM too Oct 03 03:51:14 not a fan of touchscreens on cameras though, I find the biggest benefit to a pricey camera is that there's a dedicated button for everything you care about Oct 03 03:51:31 it's just so much faster and you can do it with your eyes closd Oct 03 03:51:31 jaspertheghost, sounds like you're going through the standard learning curve - no need to lament about it too much, everybody went through the same procedure Oct 03 03:52:00 alex_PP yeah Oct 03 03:52:04 jaspertheghost, there are many more kinds of layouts, plus you can always easily make your own Oct 03 03:53:09 yea im just stressing like i know ill get ity dont eventually but i have a timetable i gotta adhere too, my first android app was hell to debug across the zillion android apps all needing little tweaks and it was just mostly built in a webview this one is much bigger and im getting paid alot of money to get it done Oct 03 03:53:11 wow, that new EOS is $800! Oct 03 03:53:20 i just hope i didnt bite more than i can chew Oct 03 03:53:26 oh, with lens Oct 03 03:54:00 jaspertheghost, just keep at it, try new things Oct 03 03:54:09 i gotta have a built in calendar in this app… i dont even know how to store in app calendar data Oct 03 03:54:21 gotta interface with billing schemes Oct 03 03:54:24 once upon a time, you couldn't walk or talk either, and those are much more complicated than this Oct 03 03:55:19 does google calendar api allow for a calendar to be created specificallty for an app and accessed by the app to read the data and not the main google calendar app? Oct 03 03:55:22 alex_PP i was looking into the T5i or SL1, still undecided Oct 03 03:58:20 they're likely to be almost the same picture wise, I'd pop down the shop and see what's nicer to use Oct 03 03:58:23 for you Oct 03 03:58:50 alex_PP yeah http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-Rebel-SL1-vs-Canon-Rebel-T5i Oct 03 03:58:52 tie Oct 03 03:59:10 this kind of thing is very personal, I have nothing against nikon, for example, but using thier cameras gices me a headache be cause i've been using canons for 14 years Oct 03 03:59:41 and i got a second hand 20D because the 350D was too small for my hands Oct 03 03:59:47 that was some time ago now though Oct 03 04:00:22 that's something to consider too, i have 90cm prints from my 20d that are just fine Oct 03 04:00:38 those go for <$100 now Oct 03 04:01:07 and the 7D prices might be coming down after the ii was announced Oct 03 04:02:22 hi all - has anyone got a recommendation for storing notification registration IDs in a sql database alongside ios push device tokens? Oct 03 04:02:42 the token formats are quite different between the two systems, wondering whether its unwise to store them in the same column/data type Oct 03 04:04:24 spronk, are ypu sure you're in the right channel? Oct 03 04:04:48 well, not really :) Oct 03 04:05:08 i figure this is a likely place for people who will have dealt with this issue Oct 03 04:05:32 regarding ios? im an android channel? Oct 03 04:05:36 in* Oct 03 04:05:45 well, part of it is regarding ios Oct 03 04:05:58 part of it is android google cloud messaging Oct 03 04:06:08 ravilov: Im a barbie girl Oct 03 04:08:02 to be honest, i can't even find in the google docs what format the registration id actually is. some google groups post indicates it can be up to 4kb in size Oct 03 04:08:09 Agamemnus, nice to meet you, wanna go party? Oct 03 04:08:30 "An android channel and a barbie girl walk into a bar..." Oct 03 04:09:46 spronk, logic and common sense say you shouldn't try to push both into a single field/table Oct 03 04:10:02 hmm Oct 03 04:10:41 for example, what happens when one user has an iOS and an Android device Oct 03 04:10:42 i guess. having them separate makes all my other queries more complex though so a bit of a trade off Oct 03 04:10:50 or 5 of each Oct 03 04:11:04 well tokens are 1-many user-token Oct 03 04:11:55 4kb seems a bit insane for registration id max length though... does anyone have a link to a spec on this? Oct 03 04:18:51 alex_PP have any paid apps ? Oct 03 04:19:06 not personally Oct 03 04:19:14 dealing with VAT is a pain Oct 03 04:19:20 just in case you missed the changes while on vacation Oct 03 04:19:28 although, last time i logged into the console it told me that wont be an issue soon Oct 03 04:19:40 changes? Oct 03 04:19:45 the address thing Oct 03 04:20:06 yeah there is that, new TOS (3 day email) Oct 03 04:20:24 3 day email? Oct 03 04:21:08 i think you have to respond to inquiries within 3 days Oct 03 04:21:22 as you can tell i didn't read the new ToS very closely :D Oct 03 04:21:39 how can they tell? Oct 03 04:21:57 did you need to respond to it within 3 days? :p Oct 03 04:23:29 bah, one of my apps ratings is <4 Oct 03 04:23:31 :( Oct 03 04:24:16 4.83, 4.5, 4, 3.12 Oct 03 04:24:29 might bin that one it's served the purpose i had for it Oct 03 04:24:36 *wrote it for Oct 03 04:28:02 hey all, I can't seem to find the preferenceView when I create an xml layout file in android Studio. Where is it? Oct 03 04:32:38 in xml/? Oct 03 04:32:46 er, res/xml/ Oct 03 04:33:49 Not res/layout? Oct 03 04:36:15 Nope, cool, thanks. Oct 03 04:39:30 Hey guys. I am following the Android tutorial "Displaying Graphics with OpenGL ES" and I am having difficulty drawing shapes to the screen. Here is my code: http://pastebin.ws/77ymqf . It does set the background colour correctly (line 82). Thanks! Oct 03 04:49:25 "We've detected unusual activity on your account. To sign in, please follow the instructions below." wtf Oct 03 04:51:00 does google just not like VPNs or something ? Oct 03 04:57:58 weirdness. looking through the account activity, its all the same IPs , locations, and browser ... nothing weird. wth could have triggered that Oct 03 05:06:16 anyone know why this is an issue https://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/StrictMode.VmPolicy.Builder.html#detectFileUriExposure() and what should be done instead? Oct 03 05:27:29 hello Oct 03 05:28:04 can I install network services like ssh to my android? Oct 03 05:28:27 legally via google play Oct 03 05:32:44 or just legally, without rooting or hacking Oct 03 05:43:14 :( Oct 03 05:45:21 hey so this isn't necessarily android development related but ties in it to.... so i have a client that wants an app that scrapes websites and displays the info on an app.. no so bad right? i will give a close example as to what it is...so basically the app would scrape blogs and post that blog post on the app, still have the authors credits and everything (perhaps even the website names)... Oct 03 05:45:21 would that be legal??? they are asking me this i have no idea Oct 03 05:46:41 can anyone help me on how to set the size of an action bar, here is my style file. http://pastebin.com/cfayHZ6r Oct 03 05:54:39 MartialLaw seems shady Oct 03 05:58:08 MartialLaw, legal? dunno. moral? only if you agreed on it with the blog authors. even then, most blogs offer RSS which is a much better and safer approach than scraping (and you need no permission from the author to use it) Oct 03 06:01:00 Sure, it's perfectly legal. Why even give credit, just pass it off as your own content. And charge for it. And don't ask for legal advice on irc, consult a lawyer. Oct 03 06:03:58 or just use common sense and/or moral compass if you have them :p Oct 03 06:09:30 well with MartialLaw , regular law has already been suspended ... so i guess anything goes Oct 03 06:11:30 lol Oct 03 06:13:26 just asking opinion before i go furthur. i havent never dealt with something like this before. web scraping in itself is a bit grey anyhows but this seems outright illegal, and yes immoral. but this is america (for most of you) when have morals ever mattered in this shithole of a country? Oct 03 06:13:41 i'd find another project to work on Oct 03 06:13:50 and another client, who isn't a dipshit Oct 03 06:15:15 america is a shithole? really? Oct 03 06:15:36 I'd also find a different country to offend Oct 03 06:16:21 ravilov, love ya bud but you been out of amurica? Oct 03 06:16:36 er Oct 03 06:16:45 i love 'murica much as the next guy...from philly, but daaaaaamn have we got lot to learn Oct 03 06:16:47 yes Oct 03 06:16:57 most of my life actually Oct 03 06:17:04 where bouts? Oct 03 06:17:12 * ravilov is not an american :p Oct 03 06:17:21 well yeah, philly is a shithole Oct 03 06:17:25 ravilov should know Oct 03 06:17:33 so is new york, so is LA.... Oct 03 06:17:55 so is miami... Oct 03 06:17:59 so is chicago Oct 03 06:18:07 america is way too big to call it all a craphole, some areas are actually very nice Oct 03 06:18:12 so is *city here* Oct 03 06:18:13 detroit too Oct 03 06:18:16 * ravilov is working on moving to america Oct 03 06:18:27 where is ravilov from? Oct 03 06:18:36 that's the big question Oct 03 06:18:36 eh, most of "big cities" are crapholes Oct 03 06:18:39 ravilov i'd move to a nordic country if i could :| Oct 03 06:18:45 america or not Oct 03 06:18:47 yes where I AM moving Oct 03 06:18:54 i am from philly and moving to Norway Oct 03 06:18:57 g00s, my family awaits me in america Oct 03 06:19:02 because it's nice and clean and great Oct 03 06:19:15 MartialLaw, I'm from EU Oct 03 06:19:19 MartialLaw because they have a working government :) Oct 03 06:19:22 ok where in the EU? Oct 03 06:19:28 g00s, yep! Oct 03 06:19:30 not sure it matters ;) Oct 03 06:19:30 Hey guys. I am following the Android tutorial "Displaying Graphics with OpenGL ES" and I am having difficulty drawing shapes to the screen. Here is my code: http://pastebin.ws/77ymqf . It does set the background colour correctly (line 82). Thanks! Oct 03 06:19:41 ravilov, yeah it mos def does Oct 03 06:19:52 italy and greece aint denmark, germany, or noway Oct 03 06:19:54 norway* Oct 03 06:20:06 nor the eastern EU countries Oct 03 06:20:16 EU's got a lot of nasty as well Oct 03 06:20:28 not to mention rampant racism Oct 03 06:20:56 where in the EU ravilov. what's the shame? i said i was from philly Oct 03 06:22:03 * MartialLaw knows somebody is being a pussy right now Oct 03 06:22:14 :-/ Oct 03 06:22:17 I'm from a crappy dysfunctional country that is none of which you mentioned Oct 03 06:22:26 Spain Oct 03 06:23:07 MartialLaw, yeah asking repeatedly will not necessarily provide more responses, sorry; probably nobody knows Oct 03 06:23:17 g00s, sure why not :p Oct 03 06:23:19 er Oct 03 06:23:23 Mayzie, not MartialLaw Oct 03 06:23:37 anyway Oct 03 06:23:47 plane, phones off etc Oct 03 06:24:13 oh i thought ravilov said earlier he was from Spain Oct 03 06:24:26 Twice in the past two hours, and since then people started talking and new people have joined. Ah wells. Oct 03 06:24:30 * ravilov changes nick to |afk-away-notherr Oct 03 06:24:33 here* Oct 03 06:24:39 Romania or Bosnia and Hz. maybe Oct 03 06:24:50 Does it matter where he/she is from? Oct 03 06:25:02 keep guessing, at least it's entertaining :) Oct 03 06:25:08 is there a prize? Oct 03 06:25:17 some eastern european country.....ie. the countries that provide the reasons why the EU should split apart Oct 03 06:25:37 alex_PP: yes... your mom Oct 03 06:25:43 awesome, Croatia Oct 03 06:25:44 and yes i am that juvenile Oct 03 06:26:54 transparency Oct 03 06:49:16 unable to set the height of a custom action bar can someone help me? here is my custom action bar layout. http://pastebin.com/r2nyuc6D Oct 03 07:06:10 mornin happy android people Oct 03 07:07:18 Morning to you Mavrik Oct 03 07:15:18 so i was playing with a custom listview, override onDraw called super then trying drawing some stuff, but nothing i drawed after the call to super would show up--i had to use dispatch draw, is this normal? Oct 03 07:20:30 lasserix, I doubt ListVIew actually does any drawing at all Oct 03 07:20:34 it just lays out other views Oct 03 07:20:41 ahh probably Oct 03 07:20:44 yeah that makes sense Oct 03 07:20:45 ugh Oct 03 07:20:49 i am making a wheel widget Oct 03 07:20:51 so it's totally possible your drawed content got covered by listview views Oct 03 07:20:52 such a pain in the ass Oct 03 07:21:02 totally not UX friendly too Oct 03 07:21:12 or that the "isDrawing" flag is set to false on ListView Oct 03 07:21:15 why in the hell should you have to "center" your selection when you could just click it Oct 03 07:21:18 or whatever that flag is called Oct 03 07:28:55 anyone know how to map getChildAt to adapter position? Oct 03 07:34:46 I've got an app I've been working with. Worked great for a while, but now it has suddenly stopped opening. I've uninstalled/reinstalled it, rebuilt it from source with both debug & release keys, and no luck. I don't see much of anything in logcat that would point to a culprit. Any pointers on where I should start looking? Oct 03 07:49:23 lasserix, most reliable way is to set a tag on the view with some information about the adapter Oct 03 08:00:01 I'm having troubles with cookies Oct 03 08:00:20 This code works the second time I run the activity: http://pastebin.com/fFqjdAWn Oct 03 08:00:57 the first time around, it won't copy the cookies into the cookie manager, and the webview will not have thme. Oct 03 08:11:06 in my app i use special characters �� theese are displayed correctly when shown in textviews etc, but when i do queries with sqlite on 4.2.2 � matches �(upper case �) but on 4.1.1 � does not match � Oct 03 08:11:11 any suggestions on what could be wrong? Oct 03 08:11:51 asfdd: https://www.sqlite.org/faq.html#q18 Oct 03 08:13:15 try comparing UPPER(COLNAME) to string.toUpperCase() Oct 03 08:14:15 or UPPER(COL) = UPPER(?) Oct 03 08:14:26 yes i suppose that will work ty, still strange it works on 4.2.2 automatically but not on 4.1.1 Oct 03 08:15:16 would upper(�) actually then be able to produce �? if it doesn't have the translation tables? Oct 03 08:17:06 or... if that doesn't work, https://developer.android.com/reference/java/text/Normalizer.html Oct 03 08:17:22 and you can store another column of normalised strings to compare against Oct 03 08:21:25 i'd rahter avoid creating a new column, but hopefully upper will work Oct 03 08:21:26 trying now Oct 03 08:24:10 <_CalLightman_> Hi, does anyone know a solution for this - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4558810/adjustpan-not-preventing-keyboard-from-covering-edittext Oct 03 08:28:19 upper seems to work Oct 03 08:50:27 jesus android sucks Oct 03 08:50:41 SystemClock.sleep(...) fixes CookieSyncManager Oct 03 08:53:26 i don't think sleep does what you expect it to do then, all it does is wait for an interrupted amount of time according to doc Oct 03 08:53:42 so that means probably he syncmanager has had time to work before your code continues Oct 03 08:58:52 Should loader restart on its own after I minimize and restore my application ? Oct 03 09:03:49 Morning all Oct 03 09:04:14 asfdd: exactly Oct 03 09:04:26 fun, google play services keeps crashing on my android l \o/ Oct 03 09:04:38 asfdd: http://code.walletapp.net/post/46414301269/passing-cookie-to-webview it's a known issue Oct 03 09:05:12 or maybe not byb gogle Oct 03 09:13:59 What imageloaders do you guys use? Oct 03 09:14:37 Im having some OOM problems so I figured I should probably restructure my imageloading Oct 03 09:14:41 picasso Oct 03 09:15:14 c03 do you call CookieSyncManager.getInstance().sync() before you start your app? Oct 03 09:15:38 or you could probably call that in doInBackground() as well Oct 03 09:15:42 instead of sleeping Oct 03 09:15:56 asfdd: how do I call something before I start my app? Oct 03 09:16:19 you can do it on create Oct 03 09:16:23 before you create your gui Oct 03 09:17:12 I'm setting cookies manually Oct 03 09:17:31 I need to move them from one session to another. Oct 03 09:18:01 Is there a standard Android NFC icon? Oct 03 09:20:43 Hello. I can't find the event of AutoCompleteTextView when the suggestion are displayed Oct 03 09:22:37 so sync before your new session starts i would assume, it says in the doc "To get the best performance, browser cookies are saved in RAM. A separate thread saves the cookies between, driven by a timer." and "To get instant sync instead of waiting for the timer to trigger, the host can call Oct 03 09:22:37 CookieSyncManager.getInstance().sync() Oct 03 09:22:54 Estel http://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/34117/is-there-a-style-guide-for-nfc-functionality-on-android-or-generally Oct 03 09:23:30 The image is CM I think though, but might shed some light on things Oct 03 09:24:26 Should loader restart on its own after I minimize and restore my application ? Oct 03 09:24:35 Yeah, seems there's nothing official but I guess I might as well use some random freely licensed one >_> Oct 03 09:24:49 Or make your own in paint! Oct 03 09:25:06 Cant possibly go wrong :D Oct 03 09:25:26 Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot an app that won't start yet doesn't log anything to adb logcat? Oct 03 09:25:27 <_CalLightman_> Hi, does anyone know a solution for this - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4558810/adjustpan-not-preventing-keyboard-from-covering-edittext Oct 03 09:27:26 hey all, how can I have a file dialog in the settings page? Oct 03 09:30:59 Same way you'd have a file dialog any other place in your app I imagine Oct 03 09:31:37 VnM: Ok just checking, thanks Oct 03 09:42:19 where can i find the android auto sdk docs? Oct 03 09:42:26 all i can find is some rough design guide Oct 03 09:42:34 but no actual javadocs Oct 03 09:53:21 Can bluetooth be enabled without user interaction from an app? Oct 03 09:54:41 Never mind, found the answer already. Oct 03 09:58:25 Okay, real question now: Is it possible to use a background service that polls a specific bt device? Oct 03 09:58:37 most probably yes Oct 03 10:26:41 i put IInAppBillingService.aidl in src/com/android/vending/billing, but it can’t resolve when i try to import com.android.vending.billing.IInAppBillingService.. what else do i need to do to add it to my project? Oct 03 10:29:51 anybody familiar with okhttp? Oct 03 10:31:40 there might be, if you were to actually ask the question like you should Oct 03 10:32:10 should have* Oct 03 10:42:19 how do I properly use icons with a desired size i.e. I want to set the size in DP? Oct 03 10:42:32 they are all blurry when I use an imageview/button Oct 03 10:42:44 how do i send post data and also an image in okhttp? Oct 03 10:43:19 do I need to make a custom drawable xml file separately for each icon? Oct 03 10:43:56 Jaycob, you put the right-sized icon into the right resource bucket; you don't ever deal with bucket-based resources yourself Oct 03 10:44:51 ravilov, if you're talking about the drawable-XXX folders in the android project, then yes I've done this Oct 03 10:45:28 problem is that when I'm using the icons in a layout file they become blurry when I try to increase their size from default Oct 03 10:48:28 as far as I know, you are only ever given one single icon that is appropriate for the current display size, you won't have access to any larger ones even if you have them; if you need that then either use drawable (no qualifier) or drawable-nodpi and put all the icon sizes in there Oct 03 10:48:30 Jaycob, ok, first of all, make sure you set a "static" size for the ImageView in dp Oct 03 10:48:44 IIRC standard size for UI icons is 48x48dp Oct 03 10:49:01 then you'll need a proper image for the bucket you're displaying, e.g. 1x, 1.5x, 2x, 3x Oct 03 10:49:20 nisargtha, use multipart/form-data and encode the file within POST correctly Oct 03 10:49:22 you can of course display a 3x image on 1x display, but if you'll show a 1x image on a 3x display it'll look blurry Oct 03 10:52:40 Mavrik, 48x48 fixed? wouldn't that depend on DPI/display size? Oct 03 10:52:50 48x48dp. Oct 03 10:53:07 ah right, dp Oct 03 10:53:10 :) Oct 03 10:53:10 missed that Oct 03 10:53:24 I probably should have written 48dp x 48dp to be clear Oct 03 10:53:37 http://developer.android.com/design/style/metrics-grids.html Oct 03 10:53:46 it seems it's 32 dp actually :) Oct 03 10:53:53 maybe, but maybe I'm so distracted I wouldn't notice anyway :p Oct 03 10:54:56 hi! is that possible to know whether original stock rom was updated(or custom rom was installed)? Oct 03 10:56:37 oles__ wrong channel Oct 03 10:56:49 oh maybe not Oct 03 10:57:04 you mean from an app ? Oct 03 10:57:24 not reliably Oct 03 10:57:47 yeah it's down to ROM maker to set the info that is available Oct 03 10:57:49 Steve_Jobs, yep Oct 03 10:57:51 most identifiers can be faked through build.prop Oct 03 10:58:46 ravilov, so reliable way is to calculate sha1 on every file in rom? Oct 03 10:58:56 speaking of which, I should totally fake it so that my 2.3 device appears as 4.2 :) Oct 03 10:59:08 oles__, ... absolutely not Oct 03 10:59:38 what would that accomplish, except tie you irreversibly to that specific device and ROM? Oct 03 11:00:14 there is just no reliable way. period. Oct 03 11:01:31 thanks ravilov and Mavrik, will try the tips! Oct 03 11:03:14 ravilov, what do you mean to tie irreversibly? Oct 03 11:03:59 hmm Oct 03 11:04:10 oles__, what's your usecase? Oct 03 11:05:47 i need to know if my app running on custon rom Oct 03 11:06:15 custom Oct 03 11:08:25 oles__, I don't have time to explain any more right now, think about it and surely you'll figure out what I mean Oct 03 11:08:42 bottom line is - you cannot know that reliably Oct 03 11:09:13 so either do it (very) unreliably, or give up on that idea Oct 03 11:12:05 (IMHO a pointless idea anyway, can't imagine why that would matter) Oct 03 11:13:01 also consider this: Oppo sells phones whose official stock ROM is CM which is technically a custom ROM Oct 03 11:13:11 ravilov, so you mean someone can rom(kernel or libc) in such way that i could not correctly calculate hash of a particular file (for example)? Oct 03 11:13:41 modify * Oct 03 11:14:31 wow dude Oct 03 11:15:31 do you really think original unhacked unmodified libc or whatever is exactly the same on every single device out there? Oct 03 11:16:20 eithet way this is the wrong channel for this anyway, like it says in the channel topic Oct 03 11:16:24 oles__, I think you're underestimating just how much the manufacturers change and customize ROMs by default Oct 03 11:16:24 either* Oct 03 11:17:29 either he has no idea what he's talking about, or he's really targeting just one single ROM/device Oct 03 11:17:38 ravilov, i mean exact hash exact version of rom for exact device Oct 03 11:18:09 yep still pointless and useless info Oct 03 11:18:33 you just need to accept this is simply NOT POSSIBLE Oct 03 11:18:35 ravilov, why Oct 03 11:18:44 eh, because Oct 03 11:19:05 if you can't accept that, try it and see for yourself Oct 03 11:19:44 best way to check stuff anyway Oct 03 11:20:07 Is it possible to use the AccountManager class in Android to get email credentials from e.g. GMail or the Mail app and then use this to send an e-mail? Oct 03 11:20:10 How do I turn a Drawable to a RotateDrawable? Oct 03 11:20:41 anyway oles__, you should discuss this in #android-root, this channel is the wrong place like I said Oct 03 11:21:15 ravilov, Oct 03 11:21:42 This is not the channel you are looking for Oct 03 11:21:46 Tobbi, afaik you can get access to that info (if you have the appropriate permission) but you can't make use of it directly Oct 03 11:21:47 * VnM makes awkward hand gestures Oct 03 11:22:06 * ravilov translates Oct 03 11:22:11 "go away" Oct 03 11:22:34 ravilov: What does that mean "can't make use of it directly"? Oct 03 11:24:16 you can get the account name (xxx@gmail.com) but there is no password, there is just "access key" that is only of use to google services Oct 03 11:24:36 you probably can't even get that security token directly Oct 03 11:35:00 ravilov: What a shame. So, I either have to start an email client so send an email or bundle an smtp server and store the credentials inside the app/ Oct 03 11:38:40 That's not a shame.. That ensures that random apps can't silently send emails from a users email account Oct 03 11:40:34 J2ME is the worst thing in the world :@ :@ :@ Oct 03 11:42:03 ye Oct 03 11:42:08