**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 17 03:00:00 2014 Nov 17 03:00:41 its not using android at all i just thought id ask here if someone knew those error codes and thought maybe it was an AIDE isue with properties or something Nov 17 03:02:20 callMeQ You won't have internet access without a manifest. Nov 17 03:04:48 Thank you Nov 17 03:08:25 Has anyone seen JakeWharton? :D Nov 17 03:08:28 i have Nov 17 03:08:31 :) Nov 17 03:09:46 do not summon Him unless you have the appropriate tribute Nov 17 03:10:19 JakeWharton: I'm using OkHttp. I'm liking it. I'm holding an OkHttpClient globally ("public static OkHttpClient Globals.httpClient = new OkHttpClient();"). Should I ever close the OkHttpClient or the Response? Nov 17 03:10:26 Is it okay to just never close anything here? Nov 17 03:10:40 you should close responses Nov 17 03:11:15 Oh my word, after over 20 hours of working on this... it took a one word google search to find the answer. Jasus. Nov 17 03:11:36 Should I close the response body? I don't see a 'close' method on Request. Hmm. Nov 17 03:12:04 ThymeCypher: and what was that answer? (and/or that search) Nov 17 03:12:09 Wait, my brain's not working. Nov 17 03:12:19 Wait, it is working. lol Nov 17 03:12:33 I thought I was mixing up requests and responses for a moment. Nov 17 03:13:44 Leeds ContactsAccountType Nov 17 03:14:23 Which lead to "You need an EditSchema", which is all I've been looking for this whole time :P Nov 17 03:15:10 JakeWharton: So, I'm only using the body (httpClient.body().getStream()), should I simply close the body and nothing else (httpClient.body().close())? Nov 17 03:15:34 s/httpClient/response/ Nov 17 03:15:48 that's should be fine Nov 17 03:16:54 Okay. Also, if I'm using something such as Jackson to parse (e.g., "objectMapper.readTree(response.body().charStream());"), it's okay to allow Jackson to auto-close and stuff, right? Nov 17 03:16:57 JakeWharton should is a dangerous word :) Nov 17 03:17:13 Because Jackson apparently likes auto-closing. Nov 17 03:17:16 TacticalJoke: yes Nov 17 03:17:20 JakeWharton: Thanks. Nov 17 03:17:38 I guess I was worried about interfering with keep-alive, but I suppose that's separate (in OkHttpClient, not response.body()). Nov 17 03:18:26 Then again, OkHttpClient doesn't have a 'close' method at all. So I guess it's simpler than I was thinking. Nov 17 03:21:07 keep-alive is directly correlated with closing the response body Nov 17 03:21:51 Hmm. So if I close the response body then I don't get keep-alive? Nov 17 03:22:16 no Nov 17 03:22:24 you have to close Nov 17 03:23:01 Oh. I guess you meant that I have to close to get keep-alive at all. Nov 17 03:26:24 I see. From WP: "If the client does not close the connection when all of the data it needs has been received, the resources needed to keep the connection open on the server will be unavailable for other clients." Nov 17 03:26:48 Actually, scratch that; I'm looking at the wrong section. Nov 17 03:33:17 I'm so rusty on HTTP. I guess keep-alive (from the client's point of view) applies to the request, not the response. Is that right? Nov 17 03:33:26 it applies to the connection Nov 17 03:33:34 which spans both Nov 17 03:34:06 Okay. I'm trying to figure out why closing the response body doesn't prevent keep-alive. Nov 17 03:35:54 ok I may have hit a bump... Nov 17 03:36:07 it wont let me set the gravity in listview... Nov 17 03:40:11 is it possible to start a background job independent of respective process ? Nov 17 03:41:05 not quite sure what the end of that means, but you can use an intent service which is in its own process Nov 17 03:41:19 JakeWharton: So there's no way that response.body().close() will prevent keep-alive, right? Just making sure I understand. Nov 17 03:41:20 why i need it is: i want to monitor package removed event separately. once the app is uninstalled that background job will do some cleaning works and kill itself. Nov 17 03:41:30 TacticalJoke: yes Nov 17 03:41:47 Okay. Nov 17 03:42:06 t2mkn: uninstall will kill all your processes Nov 17 03:43:19 JakeWharton: ya thats the issue. that is why i need the app to start something which should not be killed immediately after uninstall. Nov 17 03:43:56 that won't work Nov 17 03:45:07 JakeWharton: using NDK its possible. some says so. but i want it in only java Nov 17 03:46:38 its important to get an uninstall notification. say i need to get some survey as why user uninstalled my app. Nov 17 03:46:49 I made a Closeables.closeIfNotNull method. It saves one line but it makes code *way* easier to read. Nov 17 03:47:03 Also, of course, Closeables.closeQuietly. Nov 17 03:47:09 (Which calls Closeables.closeIfNotNull.) Nov 17 03:49:31 t2mkn you can forget about that ;) Nov 17 03:49:54 do what other apps do, put a 'submit feedback' thing in the overflow menu / nav drawer Nov 17 03:50:12 "try-with-resouces" would be nicer than all of the above, though. Nov 17 03:50:16 resources Nov 17 03:50:56 g00s: that i have done. but not all uses give a review. like 80-90% users just install and uninstall. so want them give me some sort of information as to why they uninstalled. Nov 17 03:51:31 you can't force them Nov 17 03:52:12 but a popup in browser can give me some info Nov 17 03:52:17 beside, if an app required me filling a questionnaire after uninstall, i'd just click (x) Other: fuck off Nov 17 03:52:54 its about you g00s, but not all do. Nov 17 03:53:00 most do Nov 17 03:53:29 bad enough when apps do that when they're still installed Nov 17 03:54:35 JakeWharton: ya if you annoy them a lot. :D Nov 17 03:55:18 i pretty much insta-uninstall anything which displays unsolicited notifications Nov 17 03:55:21 Overly attached app: "Why are you going into app settings?" Nov 17 04:09:35 t2mkn: maybe if you make an excuse to take them to a site like to compare their scores to other players or something like that .. Nov 17 04:12:07 shmooz: the actual requirement is different. i need to start a processes which will not be a part of my app process. when my app get uninstalled, the other started processes will do some background job and kill itself. Nov 17 04:12:54 t2mkn: then try doing it without letting the user know so that they don't get annoyed Nov 17 04:15:59 shmooz: ya thats why m looking for the solution. Nov 17 04:18:25 so you will install 2 apps? Nov 17 04:18:31 only way it could work Nov 17 04:19:40 he probably wants to take over the device to punish the user ;) Nov 17 04:19:51 pfn: 2 apps, no not a good way. Nov 17 04:19:54 how dare you uninstall my app! now you pay! Nov 17 04:20:23 shmooz: hahaha ya hope so :D Nov 17 04:20:50 t2mkn you're going to have to look for more lefit way to find out why users uninstall your app Nov 17 04:20:56 *legit Nov 17 04:21:31 its not like you're the only one asking this question (why don't people engage?) Nov 17 04:21:57 g00s: lots of user uninstall because they dont want to use it. but some find some other app better then mine. i need to know what make them switch. Nov 17 04:22:04 what about all the people who never install it in the first place ? Nov 17 04:22:51 you can't even get their reason Nov 17 04:23:39 if i can get 1 reason, i may keep 100 users in new install Nov 17 04:23:44 like i said, engagement is a basic metric and there are lots of tools to measure this - pick any. any that aren't going to get your app banned because it tried some stupid behavior Nov 17 04:24:00 so interested in ONE cause Nov 17 04:24:45 the ONE cause would be the fact that you are lingering after I have uninstalled Nov 17 04:26:15 if I hear from someone the app has that behaviour, it's good enough reason not to try it, and people will talk about it in the comments on google play Nov 17 04:26:47 shmooz: :D but people will never know that its happening. Nov 17 04:28:08 t2mkn: not everyone is clueless Nov 17 04:29:57 shmooz: i can do that easy way. make a shell script, execute it using exec() and destroy every thing. the code will never be found in my app also. cause i will make them from web and memory. Nov 17 04:30:02 hows that :D Nov 17 04:31:28 sounds evil Nov 17 04:31:51 shmooz i don't think we're talking to someone with all marbles intact Nov 17 04:32:12 the answer could be: because it's a casual market? and only big apps or extremly useful apps are remembered Nov 17 04:32:25 and most of dev does not follow the evolution of the ui? Nov 17 04:33:04 there are too many factors, but i think the biggest is the shadows created by big apps Nov 17 04:34:15 bpe: ya thats also a cause Nov 17 04:38:33 UI is not a big factor of popularity, if it is then Google might not have got popular at its early stage. Nov 17 04:39:07 humm disappointing gmail update, thought it'd look a bit happier, like Inbox Nov 17 04:39:11 not sure, i think most of ppl react more on the ui than on the content itself Nov 17 04:40:06 talking about evil behavior, if you register your app in device administrator at install (need user acknowledgement), few weeks later when this same user will want to uninstall this same app, he would have probably forgot of this device administrator thing Nov 17 04:40:19 and this block the uninstall of an app, you have to first unregister from dev admin Nov 17 04:40:52 and there is no message telling you that, at least until 4.4 (i haven't tried on L) Nov 17 04:41:01 play store shows it... Nov 17 04:41:27 that device admin has to be disabled Nov 17 04:41:36 ahh Nov 17 04:41:58 good, was not the case since ages with the regular uninstall from system/apps/ Nov 17 04:42:10 s/system/settings/ Nov 17 04:44:06 i went to go blacklist / eclude a device today, didn' realize there are like 20 different samsung note 3s Nov 17 04:44:13 bpe: that also bring 1 star ratings. like "How the hell I uninstall?" etc. Nov 17 04:44:28 yup, this is how i discovered that lol Nov 17 04:46:11 useful snippet for disabling ALL devices (or renabling) from the console dev: switches = document.getElementsByClassName("GGL*****EB"); for(i = 0; i < switches.length; i++) switches[i].click(); Nov 17 04:46:23 you have to replace "GGL*****EB" by the corresponding classname though Nov 17 04:50:46 adq: so what u did next, removed device admin from app :D Nov 17 04:52:03 * g00s wishes there was some way to know if service was bound without having to carry around an isBound flag set in **Bound callbacks Nov 17 04:52:16 which is some kind of code smell Nov 17 04:52:47 t2mkn, i don't recall, probably updated the desc and responded individually when ppl expresses their issue, but i could not remove it since i needed it from keyguard Nov 17 04:53:54 Hmm, I think I prefer Gson to Jackson. Nov 17 04:53:55 Small and simple. Nov 17 04:53:58 adq: ya one can respond politely to those 1 star for nothing. and nothing happens next. they dont re-rate Nov 17 04:54:17 On my JVM tests, Gson tree-parsing is showing as way faster than Jackson tree-parsing. Especially the first run. Nov 17 04:54:21 Though my tests may be bad. Nov 17 04:54:37 yup, around or less than 1/5 are changing their ratings after I replied Nov 17 04:55:00 it's an average from my apps Nov 17 04:55:22 ya, thats an issue. my average is like 1/25 Nov 17 04:55:32 wow even worst Nov 17 04:55:40 yap Nov 17 04:56:41 TacticalJoke, you should go on, it has been few days now that you're looking for perf on your reddit parsing and json Nov 17 04:56:48 adq: the solution is, need to get a broadcast event, just before uninstall. Nov 17 04:57:19 adq: How do you mean? Nov 17 04:57:45 t2mkn, not sure it is possible Nov 17 04:58:32 TacticalJoke, i meant, you are struggling with performances and also design of how you should parse the reddit tree Nov 17 04:58:44 you should continue your dev and go back on that later Nov 17 04:58:45 :)) Nov 17 04:58:58 Oh. Performance seems fine. I'm just a perfectionist. :) Nov 17 04:59:04 I think I have the answer now, finally, though. Nov 17 04:59:11 :) Nov 17 04:59:28 wonder when Chainfire will upload stuff about 5.0 and root Nov 17 04:59:40 i'm spending too much time on little details, despite i am not a perfectionist Nov 17 04:59:43 pclover: bing harder Nov 17 04:59:55 adq: its not possible i guess, unless u start a separate process independent of your apps process. and track the files or directories Nov 17 05:00:12 to bad there isn't a simple selinux switch Nov 17 05:00:16 like normal linux does Nov 17 05:01:47 wonder if it affect people that have to use loki probably not afik Nov 17 05:03:01 enough tried, now i should dev something different app. Nov 17 05:04:01 Just curious if it's possible to pre patch a kernel outside of the device say on your pc before flashing or does that require rebuilding it. Hum Nov 17 05:04:13 fingers getting excited, mind rolling on with music. but but but.... what should i develop next? Nov 17 05:04:41 i'm playing with particules on Android Wear right now: http://imgur.com/a/TQrvC#1 Nov 17 05:05:00 (no OpenGL, just a surfaceview/canvas) Nov 17 05:05:04 TacticalJoke: nothing is perfect Nov 17 05:05:37 adq: nice one. Nov 17 05:06:02 any running video Nov 17 05:06:29 yup but with other renderers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZMdNf0IhJs Nov 17 05:06:44 i also made the colors more vivid for the fractal tree Nov 17 05:07:02 going to release a free version (but light) Nov 17 05:07:44 especially on android ;) Nov 17 05:08:06 yeah, i hesitated to go ono the in-app road and make pack of renderers & co Nov 17 05:08:21 but it's too much work tbh, and not very cool for the users Nov 17 05:09:05 m liking it. 👍 Nov 17 05:09:10 :) Nov 17 05:10:43 What do you folks think about using System.nanoTime() to time code running on Android? Nov 17 05:10:54 very expensive compared to currentmillisec Nov 17 05:11:05 and not sure you will have always a precision of nano order Nov 17 05:12:23 TacticalJoke: ya its expensive and not always perfect. i have tried. Nov 17 05:15:38 Ok, so I have listview, and I am curious how can I center the text under each of my frozen columns? I can with tablerot table layout just fine, but I want this to populate when user connects to my app. Nov 17 05:16:43 I tried using gravity center but that just centers all the text to the middle. Nov 17 05:18:18 Demon_Jester, take a look at space: http://android-developers.blogspot.fr/2011/11/new-layout-widgets-space-and-gridlayout.html if you are targetting API >= 14 maybe Nov 17 05:18:31 otherwise it's hard to answer your question without more precise info Nov 17 05:18:48 well this will be on my tablet and its 19 Nov 17 05:18:53 so that should be fine. Nov 17 05:19:18 otherwise everything is possible with linearlayout and relativelayout Nov 17 05:20:19 yeah its possible if I put gaps that are long enough to reach china Nov 17 05:24:09 adq I wish I could use textview with array adapter Nov 17 05:24:50 I am just looking for something I can use in array adapter, and can center my text under each frozen column. Nov 17 05:25:03 Demon_Jester: Could you use ListView? Nov 17 05:25:38 TacticalJoke I can but to center the data that is given when user connects doesn't line up with frozen columns. Nov 17 05:26:38 I can use table row and table layout, but I can't use arrayadapter, and if more than one person connects the app crashes. Nov 17 05:26:52 Connects? Nov 17 05:27:36 hi. I'm trying to use the NsdManager to look for a network service. I have some very basic discovery code, but every time I tell the app to search, it either a) crashes the AVD b) it crashes the real device Nov 17 05:28:39 the app is really basic - based on the single activity project, with only a few lines of code added Nov 17 05:29:54 You can pull apart a kernel and put it back together yeah? Nov 17 05:30:04 well the ramdisk Nov 17 05:31:37 If I'm doing something like "foo = a.b().c().d();", would it be bad form to catch a potential NPE (where the NPE just shouldn't happen but my app should probably try to deal with it cleanly anyway)? Nov 17 05:31:59 (catch NullPointerException e) just feels wrong. lol Nov 17 05:32:29 catch ( Nov 17 05:35:03 I'm adding items to my list, then calling notifyDatasetChanged, but it doesnt update the items in the listview Nov 17 05:35:07 Do I need to do something else? Nov 17 05:35:19 ciree: Could you post code? Nov 17 05:35:20 be sure to call it from uithread Nov 17 05:35:28 and that your array has changed Nov 17 05:36:13 @Subscribe Nov 17 05:36:15 public void onCatsLoadedEvent(CategoriesLoadedEvent ev){ Nov 17 05:36:17 mCategoriesList.addAll(ev.getCategories()); Nov 17 05:36:19 mAdapter.notifyDataSetChanged(); Nov 17 05:36:21 } Nov 17 05:36:38 TacticalJoke my irc client messed up, did you say anything after "could you use listview" Nov 17 05:36:51 ciree use pastebin.org don't do that again. Nov 17 05:36:52 Oh, no. Nov 17 05:37:16 It updates if my adapter getView returns a new view each time, if I check for null it doesn't update Nov 17 05:37:27 Its kind of laggy, so I'm trying to check for null Nov 17 05:37:39 Demon_Jester: my bad Nov 17 05:38:30 http://pastebin.com/t4pd9jAY Nov 17 05:38:32 pasty Nov 17 05:38:57 hi, id there a market place for android controls like there is for iOS… cocopods, coacocontrols.com, etc…??? Nov 17 05:39:06 Is there a bug in your getView method? Nov 17 05:39:27 http://pastebin.com/NmCTbXWz Nov 17 05:39:44 So....it doesn't update if my getView does the null check Nov 17 05:39:50 If I don't have the if there, it updates Nov 17 05:39:54 TacticalJoke I may have to use expandable listview or something.. Nov 17 05:40:00 check a tutorial with listview and viewholder ciree Nov 17 05:40:00 But I was noticing performance...so i was wondering if I was doing it wrong Nov 17 05:40:04 ciree: That's wrong. Nov 17 05:40:11 inflating like this is wrong in getview Nov 17 05:40:31 Whats wrong about it? What should I look up? Nov 17 05:40:48 Its acutally a grid view Nov 17 05:40:50 You're not doing anything when there is a recycled view. Nov 17 05:41:04 You need to setText and so on in both cases. Nov 17 05:41:23 sooo...inflate only if null. otherwise do the sets? Nov 17 05:41:31 Do setText in both cases. Nov 17 05:41:35 inflate() only if null. Nov 17 05:41:36 awesome Nov 17 05:41:40 your great! Nov 17 05:42:14 As adq said, you should read the tutorials. Nov 17 05:47:47 Hi, is there a source of controls and fragments and stuff for Android…? Sort of like cocoacontrols.com is fo iOS...? Nov 17 05:48:56 * regan sees some controls from telerik and tutorials and stuff but is there no real common market place..? Nov 17 05:55:21 hey Nov 17 05:57:09 regan: thats a good question, i'm curious as well Nov 17 05:57:51 * regan is reading something of stackoverflow about it Nov 17 05:58:07 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10745360/open-source-android-libraries-reusable-views-viewgroups-adapters-etc Nov 17 06:05:24 how can I get a button to fill the entire width of the the screen? like a really wide rectangle button at the very bottom of the screen Nov 17 06:05:29 what are 5 good reasons to avoid Xamarin..? Nov 17 06:05:52 I have android:weight=1 but that doesn't seem to do anything Nov 17 06:06:48 bilb_ono do you have android:width="0dp" ? Nov 17 06:06:54 layout_width Nov 17 06:08:10 http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/11/the-nexus-10-lollipop-and-the-problem-with-big-android-tablets Nov 17 06:08:11 so android:layout_with="0dp" and android:weight="1" ? Nov 17 06:08:25 " It's just that there aren't many reasons to use an Android tablet with a screen this large, and if Google isn't willing to make its redesigned OS and apps work great on these big widescreen tablets, why should other developers bother?" Nov 17 06:14:01 wow, according to this my flea bitten lumia 521 will get Windows Phone 10 Nov 17 06:15:00 g00s: Interesting article. Nov 17 06:16:09 jfpoole i'm not the kind to comment on websites about stuff, but when i read things like this i want to should "you guys, have no idea what a PITA it is to create responsive android apps" Nov 17 06:16:18 *to shout Nov 17 06:16:47 g00s: This is the problem, though — it should be *easier* to create responsive Android apps. It’s a lot easier on iOS, for example. Nov 17 06:19:02 i've never found google to very cognizant of developer UX; whether tools or android apis anyhow - seems like their attitude is "we have you a way to do it (no matter how hard) so do it Nov 17 06:19:20 s/have/gave Nov 17 06:19:29 for example, fragments Nov 17 06:19:34 Blergh. Nov 17 06:19:47 I’m shocked at how much time we waste on Android. Nov 17 06:19:53 Esp. compared to iOS. Nov 17 06:22:44 i spent the batter half of a day debugging a bluetooth problem with a user owning a sammy note 3; just wound up excluding it (and its 20 brethren) from developer console Nov 17 06:23:20 Heh. Nov 17 06:23:35 The only problematic devices we deal with are Tegra 2 devices that run Android 4.x. Nov 17 06:23:47 oh, i'm doing BT so all devices are problematic Nov 17 06:23:50 :) Nov 17 06:23:53 g00s: is iOS really that much easier to develop for? Nov 17 06:24:03 g00s: and why do you think that is? Nov 17 06:24:17 RustyShackleford i haven't in a while so I can't comment; you'll have to ask jfpoole Nov 17 06:24:25 Moo? Nov 17 06:24:38 RustyShackleford: Tools are *so* *much* *better*. Nov 17 06:25:18 the tools in eclipse monitor are so embarassing Nov 17 06:25:23 interesting, i've never tried any of them. I thought people didn't like Objective-C Nov 17 06:25:33 you can use swift now anyhow Nov 17 06:25:46 I always thought that android seemed much easier to develop for compared to desktop applications Nov 17 06:25:58 O.o Nov 17 06:26:14 Objective-C is a little … odd Nov 17 06:26:36 That said it’s nice to be able to call C and C++ code directly than having to go through the PITA that is JNI and the NDK. Nov 17 06:26:43 i like it. i like the message passing aspects anyhow. wish it had namespaces Nov 17 06:26:53 jfpoole yeah Nov 17 06:27:15 java is kinda isolationist, unless you're on the jvm Nov 17 06:27:40 but heh, java 9 is getting JNI 2 - can't wait to see that on android :P Nov 17 06:29:32 jna is a good solution for ffi Nov 17 06:29:42 that it's not popular in android is sad Nov 17 06:29:55 google looked at it one time, just decided too slow i think Nov 17 06:30:14 it doesn't have to be google endorsed Nov 17 06:30:21 do you think we'll ever see .NET on android? Nov 17 06:30:33 there's xamarin Nov 17 06:30:40 i think it was the codinghorror guy who said that we should have used .NET instead of Java Nov 17 06:30:40 and that is net on android Nov 17 06:30:54 I disagree Nov 17 06:31:03 android is successful because of java Nov 17 06:31:45 ios was successful with a "weird" language. devs learn if there is a payoff Nov 17 06:32:09 android was succesfull because it was the only free viable alternative to iOS , oems had nothing Nov 17 06:32:22 even MS was caught surprised, nothing great to show Nov 17 06:33:03 there was this company called blackberry ... Nov 17 06:33:04 ios had the reason of being first to market behind its success Nov 17 06:33:16 iOS wasn’t first to market. Nov 17 06:33:30 BlackBerry, Windows Phone, etc. were there before iOS. Nov 17 06:33:39 i think for a touch UI though, it was Nov 17 06:33:54 blackberry and pocketpc can't even be compared to what ios did Nov 17 06:35:20 pocketpc was just a sad attempt at slapping win32 on mobile Nov 17 06:35:51 and blackberry was the status quo with j2me garbage Nov 17 06:36:45 Is manual tree parsing gonna be faster than object mapping in something like Gson/Jackson? Nov 17 06:36:57 Yes, but does it matter Nov 17 06:36:58 I'm guessing so, because the latter uses reflection. Nov 17 06:37:02 Okay. Nov 17 06:37:51 network IO takes seconds, the fact that your post processing afterward takes 100ms vs 50ms is pretty irrelevant Nov 17 06:40:47 True. Nov 17 06:50:19 hi anyone know how to fix 'EGL_emulation﹕ eglSurfaceAttrib not implemented' ? Nov 17 07:07:19 Cervantes: is that in genymotion? If so I just restart the virtual device and it's gone Nov 17 07:12:11 jush: nah, its android studio Nov 17 07:33:20 Does there exist an Android DatePicker which autocompletes the century? I.e. if I enter 03 it autocompletes to 2003 (the closest date within the last 100 years?) Nov 17 07:55:24 I am using DatePickerDialog Nov 17 08:16:14 barq: shoudnt be hard to do that on your own Nov 17 08:16:22 i dont think there is a picker or that Nov 17 08:16:31 Hello, I'm developing an app and not sure about the 'correct' use of a Service. I want to use a Service to change the active Activity. The Service is listening for commands via a TCP connection. From what I know, this is the kind of job, Services are covering. Am I right or missing some important point? Nov 17 08:17:08 change the active activity ? Nov 17 08:18:35 I have more than one Activity in my project and depending on the incoming commands, I have to change the Activity, shown on screen Nov 17 08:20:08 Echsenkoenig: its possible that way, although it sounds a bit.. inelegantly Nov 17 08:23:44 hi..what the best way to make the "rate my app" functionality from within an app? Nov 17 08:23:55 Just add link to product page in Google play? Nov 17 08:24:08 Assault: yep Nov 17 08:24:18 but dont make it a popping up dialog :> Nov 17 08:24:32 ok..so there is no more direct approach, like take the user directly to review page? Nov 17 08:24:40 yeah, no popups..just a link Nov 17 08:24:59 The Activities, showing different Activities on command and using a TCP connection to receive commands are given demands. Apart from this I'm free to do what I want. Nov 17 08:25:29 or is the product page in google play actually the same page where reviews are given (im new to Google play and Android dev in general) Nov 17 08:25:29 Assault: you can make a button that opens the play store app showing your app Nov 17 08:25:33 but thats all i think Nov 17 08:25:37 Hi I have a doubt here. I am validating each field while the field looses focus. That works fine. Now while submitting I want to check if any field still has error messages or isEmpty and want to disable the submit icon/button Nov 17 08:27:07 Assault: and whatever you do, don't do what EA do... pop up a dialog which offers the chance to rate 5*, or 1*-4* - and have the 1*-4* option take the user to your own feedback form, so only people who say they're going to rate 5* actually get sent to the store to rate the game Nov 17 08:27:11 Should I have an array to store the errors and check if error[] is empty if empty submit should work or else if error[]!=null submit is disabled Nov 17 08:27:30 Leeds, yeah sure Nov 17 08:29:17 so..if I use market instead of http in the start of the google play url, the devices open the google play insteda of browser, right? Nov 17 08:29:55 also, there are probably 10 libraries that do this Nov 17 08:30:18 you've seen this, right? http://developer.android.com/distribute/tools/promote/linking.html Nov 17 08:30:36 Assault: there are intents for that Nov 17 08:30:44 use an intent dedicated to market Nov 17 08:31:16 danijoo, so..is that a "yes"? =) Nov 17 08:31:29 thats a "read the link" Nov 17 08:31:41 +) Nov 17 08:31:53 ok Nov 17 08:32:17 (just double checking so I have understood correctly, i dont have an android device right now so I cannot test it) Nov 17 08:33:00 test it on an emulator Nov 17 08:33:16 an emu with play :) Nov 17 08:33:22 yep Nov 17 08:33:33 so the first thing you might want to consider is getting a device running the platform you're developing for Nov 17 08:33:50 Using the DatePickerDialog, is there a way to parse the date while the dialog is open or only after closing the dialog? Nov 17 08:34:28 Leeds, i have one, just now with me right now Nov 17 08:34:30 barq: DatePickerDialog#onDataChanged(...) Nov 17 08:34:42 onDateChanged* Nov 17 08:35:01 thats called everytime the date changes Nov 17 08:35:33 any idea about getting SERVICE_NOT_AVAILABLE on gcm.register(sender_id) ? Nov 17 08:36:09 shmoon: have you tried to google it? Nov 17 08:37:24 yup Nov 17 08:37:40 what does it say :) Nov 17 08:37:50 either GCM wasn't able to registeror you need to retry Nov 17 08:38:04 there you go ;) Nov 17 08:38:15 not available -> retry (later!) Nov 17 08:39:34 i have been trying for the last 1 day Nov 17 08:39:34 you cant really do anything else. The error might be on googles side of the wire Nov 17 08:39:40 hmm Nov 17 08:39:42 oh hm Nov 17 08:39:44 thats strange Nov 17 08:40:18 did you check if play services was installed on the device? Nov 17 08:40:28 and prompt the user to install/update otherwise? Nov 17 08:41:30 i am trying in my emulator actually. Nov 17 08:41:35 is play store app different from play services? Nov 17 08:41:45 Anyone here had problem with google maps gett OOM errors? Nov 17 08:43:04 yes, it's different Nov 17 08:44:56 shizzle; i have something in a service updating a notification, and then onDestroy calls stopForeground(true) but the notification is still there Nov 17 08:51:34 JakeWharton: ok I'll read up on play services. although this is funny http://pastie.org/9724661 Nov 17 08:51:46 first says its missing then the value dumped is 1 (true?) Nov 17 08:52:47 i have no idea what value is referring to since it's not in your code but it's likely an implementation detail of the play services client SDK so you can't know it means true Nov 17 08:56:48 ok Nov 17 09:17:39 wow, cool sensor http://www.gizmag.com/bsxinsight-wearable-lactate-threshold-sensor/34774/ Nov 17 09:17:43 lactate threshold Nov 17 09:31:19 Morning all Nov 17 09:33:22 * capella when'd the sun come up :? Nov 17 09:34:06 capella: it's 9:30 and we're still waiting Nov 17 09:34:43 yah ... 4:34a EST and covered in snow Nov 17 09:35:14 capella: are you *still* up or are you *already* up? Nov 17 09:35:17 Is there an easy way to color the status bar for Lollipop whilst using Theme.Holo? Nov 17 09:35:41 Estel: yes, the old way Nov 17 09:35:44 Goodmorning :) Nov 17 09:35:57 Ankhwatcher: I was hoping that there'd be some nice attr you could set >_> Nov 17 09:36:48 heh - *still up* Nov 17 09:36:57 Estel: well there is but you'll be setting a drawable background value to it Nov 17 09:37:50 Estel: http://jgilfelt.github.io/android-actionbarstylegenerator/ Nov 17 09:40:02 There's no status bar on the generator? Nov 17 09:40:20 Either way though, if it's not a trivial theme attribute, there's no timmmeee Nov 17 09:40:23 Estel: oh sorry, I thought you meant the actionbar Nov 17 09:40:41 No, I meant the status bar :P Nov 17 09:41:18 yeah, I think you may be stuffed on that one you can use the AppCompat theme or the Material theme to set the statusbar color, but I don't think the attribute will mean anything in any other context Nov 17 09:42:25 Estel: this person claims to have a solution: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22192291/how-to-change-the-status-bar-color-in-android Nov 17 09:42:53 aye, but hassle Nov 17 09:43:13 well if you don't want hassle USE APPCOMAT! :D Nov 17 09:43:19 *COMPAT Nov 17 09:43:43 it makes theming so much easier it would make your head spin Nov 17 09:44:15 This is a project 90% done in Holo that needs to be feature complete tomorrow, I am not completely redoing the theme today ^.^ Nov 17 09:44:58 yeah yeah, I know Nov 17 09:45:32 but you should really check out AppCompat when you get a chance, it's so much easier to theme it makes me wonder how we survived Nov 17 09:50:18 is the api 21, google api system images not listing as a target for creating a virtual device in AS for anyone else? Nov 17 09:58:43 aaearon same, just tested Nov 17 10:07:50 Hi. I'm running an OpenCV capture app on my Nexus 4. When I quit the app by tapping the home button and when I tap the recent app list button, the process com.android.systemui crashes with an OOM. I checked the traceback on logcat and it is because of some code in android.graphics.BitmapFactory. I even tried setting excludeFromRecents="true" in my activity declaration. Any insights? Nov 17 10:09:15 yati maybe it's more your use of BitmapFactory rather than code problems inside it :) Nov 17 10:09:54 I aslo doubt it has anything to do with recents list appearance, more to do with your control or resume Nov 17 10:10:20 StingRay_, That's the confusing part. I am not using BitmapFactory at all. Nov 17 10:11:38 something is :) Nov 17 10:11:40 StingRay_, hmm, control or resume - can you tell me more Nov 17 10:12:11 StingRay_, Well com.android.systemui is. That's what the traceback says. Nov 17 10:13:07 pastebin the "whole" stacktrace Nov 17 10:17:23 StingRay_, there: https://dpaste.de/ewDh Nov 17 10:18:20