**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 18 02:59:59 2014
Nov 18 03:08:48 <Beket> hey people. I upgrade to 5.0 from 4.4.4 and now th actionbar in my app is way too big
Nov 18 03:08:50 <TacticalJoke> This is what I'm probably gonna go with: http://pastebin.com/ke7U1STR
Nov 18 03:08:55 <Beket> has anyone else experienced this ?
Nov 18 03:09:43 <TacticalJoke> Oops, forgot to rename some variables there.
Nov 18 03:10:03 <TacticalJoke> Wait, I didn't.
Nov 18 03:12:03 <TacticalJoke> That last one should be "ensureJsonString", though, since it's basically "ensure JsonPrimitive && String".
Nov 18 03:26:49 <TacticalJoke> That's really cool -- in Eclipse, you can rename (Alt+Shift+N) an exception class from a Javadoc "@throws" statement.
Nov 18 03:44:41 <g00s> holy hell thats ugly http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/wearables/fashion-technology.html
Nov 18 03:44:51 <csst0111> I'm doing a drag and drop operation. Moving some views from container1 to container2 ( both are LineaLayouts ). On ACTION_DROP I remove the view from previous parent and add it to the new one. However  when I use getLeft() I get the value the View had when it was in container 1
Nov 18 03:45:27 <pieces029> g00s: what OS is that running?
Nov 18 03:45:38 <csst0111> g00s, yikes !! :/
Nov 18 03:46:49 <shmooz> is it a bad idea to put anything clickable in the top left corner ? because if you port the app to iOS that's where the back button will be ?
Nov 18 03:47:12 <g00s> pieces029 some linux based thing
Nov 18 03:48:55 <shmooz> I've noticed a lot of apps just put their unclickable logo with the iOS back button even on android
Nov 18 03:50:16 <adq> g00s, that' for girls/women, they got very different taste ;)
Nov 18 03:50:54 <shmooz> real men run bsd
Nov 18 03:51:55 <adq> s/bsd/OpenBSD/
Nov 18 03:52:05 <shmooz> ^^
Nov 18 03:52:08 <adq> :D
Nov 18 03:52:10 <shmooz> agreed
Nov 18 03:52:19 <shmooz> my favorite is Open
Nov 18 03:52:36 <adq> yeah cause macosx is somehow based on BSD too ;)
Nov 18 03:52:46 <shmooz> security and stability by simplicity
Nov 18 03:52:59 <adq> obsd is great o/
Nov 18 03:53:18 <shmooz> it's very clean and simple
Nov 18 03:53:56 <shmooz> pf is like heaven compared to ip tables or ip chains
Nov 18 03:54:03 <matt_j> csst0111: hahaha oh dear
Nov 18 03:54:03 <adq> http://android-developers.blogspot.fr/2014/11/google-play-services-65.html fresh
Nov 18 03:55:44 <g00s> "We are also providing developers with more granular control over which Google Play services APIs your app depends on to help you maintain a lean app."
Nov 18 03:55:48 <g00s> \o/
Nov 18 03:56:00 <Leeds> yeah, I wondered why nobody seemed to have noticed that...
Nov 18 04:05:36 <shmooz> does that mean there will be little checkbox permissions the user can unselect while installing crippling half the app ?
Nov 18 04:06:17 <shmooz> oh ok no it doesn't ;P
Nov 18 04:16:22 <gordon_> dont get 'granual app'
Nov 18 04:16:34 <gordon_> 'granual control' sorry
Nov 18 04:16:56 <gordon_> does it mean there will be more libs, not just one ?
Nov 18 04:17:27 <Leeds> yes, it looks like it means the play services monolithic library has been broken down into smaller libraries
Nov 18 04:17:46 <gordon_> good
Nov 18 04:18:21 <gordon_> now we need to only delete one more lib and hopefully I will be able to turn off proguard ;)
Nov 18 04:25:17 <g00s> this will buy everyone a few more months
Nov 18 04:30:03 <gordon_> hope so
Nov 18 04:30:28 <gordon_> hope there are speed-ups for gradle plugin
Nov 18 04:30:32 <gordon_> in pipeline
Nov 18 04:30:46 <g00s> you'll need them for multi-dex :)
Nov 18 04:30:48 <gordon_> would like to see that but... is it available somewhere ?
Nov 18 05:01:46 <g00s> is there any way to remove the 'system update available' notification? i'll wait for 5.1. probably be a while
Nov 18 05:02:30 <JesusFreke> g00s: yes.. install it :D
Nov 18 05:02:48 <g00s> ha
Nov 18 05:03:05 <TacticalJoke> On my Sony device, the only way I've found is to force-stop Update Centre.
Nov 18 05:03:24 <TacticalJoke> But it starts again on reboot.
Nov 18 05:03:51 <bankai_au> who has an update? which update? i want an update
Nov 18 05:03:59 <g00s> here, take mine
Nov 18 05:10:06 <bankai_au> i'll just sit tight and wait for the OTA.... dunno what's keeping them. Google needs to develop the "release now we'll fix it later" approach that apple take
Nov 18 05:30:10 <RustyShackleford> is using the google maps api free?
Nov 18 05:30:26 <RustyShackleford> in your own app, that is
Nov 18 05:32:37 <g00s> StingRay_ did you see, play service 6.5 being split up
Nov 18 05:32:49 <StingRay_> oh fk really ?
Nov 18 05:33:00 <StingRay_> yay!!! \o/
Nov 18 05:33:20 <g00s> you'll probably still be over the limit :D
Nov 18 05:33:59 <StingRay_> na, I'm not now, so really wont be then
Nov 18 05:34:05 <StingRay_> but about time they did this
Nov 18 05:34:07 <StingRay_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xczDd2_X0DI
Nov 18 05:34:10 <StingRay_> yay!!!!
Nov 18 05:40:12 <StingRay_> g00s I dont see mention of it ? was this from the dev blog ?
Nov 18 05:40:39 <g00s> yeah
Nov 18 05:42:03 <adq> StingRay_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHOR9_yMakU
Nov 18 06:48:36 <RustyShackleford> which android app are you most proud of?
Nov 18 06:48:55 <RustyShackleford> I made an app that would tell you when your train was coming
Nov 18 06:49:30 <RustyShackleford> it doesn't work anymore. The API was in beta, and since then the transit company made a mobile website that is much nicer than my app
Nov 18 06:51:44 <RustyShackleford> unfortunately i haven't come up with any good ideas since then
Nov 18 06:52:40 <TacticalJoke> I was thinking of making a bus app.
Nov 18 06:52:42 <TacticalJoke> For London buses.
Nov 18 06:52:48 <TacticalJoke> But I don't have time!
Nov 18 06:52:57 <TacticalJoke> RustyShackleford:  What do you use your phone/tablet for?
Nov 18 06:53:06 <JesusFreke> I'm pretty happy with my penroser app
Nov 18 06:53:18 <RustyShackleford> TacticalJoke: well if the API exists, it's pretty easy. If it doesn't, they its practially impossible
Nov 18 06:53:22 <JesusFreke> it was a thoroughly fun little project :)
Nov 18 06:53:40 <TacticalJoke> Yeah, they have a pretty good(-looking) API.
Nov 18 06:53:52 <RustyShackleford> JesusFreke: looks like a cool app
Nov 18 06:54:01 <TacticalJoke> Though it states something like "It uses a format that's mainly JSON".
Nov 18 06:54:04 <TacticalJoke> Mainly?
Nov 18 06:54:11 <TacticalJoke> That sounds fun to parse...
Nov 18 06:54:26 <adq> make a game if you lack of idea RustyShackleford
Nov 18 06:54:40 <adq> though most of ppl lack of time and skills, not idea
Nov 18 06:54:45 <RustyShackleford> i'm trying to write an app that will tell you travel times on the local highways/freeways
Nov 18 06:54:45 <JesusFreke> you have to have an idea for a game too :)
Nov 18 06:55:00 <RustyShackleford> but I can't find an API
Nov 18 06:55:11 <g00s> lol yeah, the data doesn't want to be free
Nov 18 06:55:19 <RustyShackleford> the local news gets this information from somewhere. So do the radio stations
Nov 18 06:55:48 <g00s> eye in the sky
Nov 18 06:55:58 <TacticalJoke> RustyShackleford:  When I was much younger, I made a bot for Yahoo! Chat.  They didn't like people making unofficial clients, so it was a constant battle against them.
Nov 18 06:56:12 <TacticalJoke> But, being so young, I was happy to battle.  No way I'd have the motivation today.
Nov 18 06:56:13 <RustyShackleford> g00s: no way. Do you think they all figure it out themselves?
Nov 18 06:56:29 <RustyShackleford> what a waste of efforts
Nov 18 06:57:33 <g00s> http://www.cisco.com/web/strategy/smart_connected_communities/city-traffic.html
Nov 18 06:57:43 <g00s> you won't be able to get this data
Nov 18 06:58:23 <adq> many transport system in many countries "protect" their data
Nov 18 06:58:26 <g00s> time for another idea. unless you write something that crowdsources everybody's movement and maps that to congestion
Nov 18 06:58:29 <adq> it's even worst if you look at fuel stations lol
Nov 18 06:58:38 <gordon_> use google maps ?
Nov 18 06:58:40 <RustyShackleford> well they do have a website that will show you this information. And even cameras that you can view
Nov 18 06:59:01 <gordon_> I'm interested in that new google maps
Nov 18 06:59:06 <RustyShackleford> i've been poking through their website with chrome's developer console
Nov 18 06:59:16 <g00s> google uses waze
Nov 18 06:59:29 <TacticalJoke> RustyShackleford:  Android needs a good Twitter client.
Nov 18 06:59:42 <gordon_> what's wrong with official one ?
Nov 18 06:59:52 <adq> plume is not so bad
Nov 18 06:59:55 <TacticalJoke> I can't stand the UI.
Nov 18 06:59:59 <adq> but i really dislike twitter
Nov 18 07:00:00 <TacticalJoke> Of the official one.
Nov 18 07:01:01 <adq> RustyShackleford, in fact you want an idea with an API available on top it? maybe you have to explore other possibilities
Nov 18 07:01:14 <TacticalJoke> That bar at the bottom of the screen just gets in the way.  The app icon and the action icons look exactly the same.
Nov 18 07:01:24 <RustyShackleford> adq: well I could hack it a bit. Some of the data i need is in html
Nov 18 07:01:30 <adq> just take a pen and a paper sheet, write down what you like, what you would like to learn, what you are good and bad at, etc..
Nov 18 07:01:38 <RustyShackleford> thats not really ideal for parsing
Nov 18 07:01:41 <adq> then cross everything which will help you to narrow down the field
Nov 18 07:01:54 <RustyShackleford> and the "API" is super messy
Nov 18 07:02:00 <adq> cause asking others for idea is really the wrong way
Nov 18 07:02:23 <adq> scrapping web is not sustainable
Nov 18 07:02:30 <adq> website will change, it is also illegal
Nov 18 07:02:37 <TacticalJoke> Scraping HTML is horrible.
Nov 18 07:02:44 <adq> html is easy with jsoup
Nov 18 07:02:47 <TacticalJoke> The whole "coupling to an implementation" thing.
Nov 18 07:02:48 <RustyShackleford> legality was another concern. Is it really illegal?
Nov 18 07:02:51 <adq> but when it comes to other web stuff.. good luck :)
Nov 18 07:03:05 <TacticalJoke> adq:  Yeah, but they might change the HTML significantly once a week.
Nov 18 07:03:06 <JesusFreke> what? just parse the website with a regex! easy-peasy
Nov 18 07:03:08 * JesusFreke ducks
Nov 18 07:03:20 <adq> jsoup handles regex ^^
Nov 18 07:03:22 <TacticalJoke> It's a shame that regexes don't nest.
Nov 18 07:03:22 <RustyShackleford> this site is online publically. How could it be illegal to redistrubte that data?
Nov 18 07:03:29 <TacticalJoke> You could take over the world with a nesting regex.
Nov 18 07:03:42 <JesusFreke> (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454)
Nov 18 07:03:44 <adq> RustyShackleford, not my concern, you have to know that
Nov 18 07:04:24 <RustyShackleford> well i've gotta find the answer somehow i guess
Nov 18 07:04:27 <adq> RustyShackleford, do something free and educational
Nov 18 07:04:30 <adq> for learning purpose
Nov 18 07:04:44 <adq> it's really needed compared to all the ****** available
Nov 18 07:05:20 <RustyShackleford> well I try to make something thats useful to me
Nov 18 07:05:24 <adq> per example, i don't have time, but i want to make a quizz app to learn capital of countries
Nov 18 07:05:27 <adq> really good for children
Nov 18 07:05:37 <TacticalJoke> adq:  Where would the data come from?
Nov 18 07:05:49 <JesusFreke> there are already good flashcard type apps though
Nov 18 07:05:50 <RustyShackleford> how bout a text file
Nov 18 07:06:02 <adq> TacticalJoke, where the data of countries capital comes from??
Nov 18 07:06:48 <TacticalJoke> Oh, I kinda extrapolated.
Nov 18 07:06:52 <adq> ah :p
Nov 18 07:06:57 <TacticalJoke> Thinking it was gonna be a quiz about all kinds of stuff.  :D
Nov 18 07:07:12 <adq> :)
Nov 18 07:07:21 <RustyShackleford> here's another idea: the DOT publishes an android app with this data also. the app is terrible though
Nov 18 07:07:45 <RustyShackleford> i tried a packet sniffer to see if I could figure out where its requesting this data
Nov 18 07:07:45 <TacticalJoke> The Department of Tigers?
Nov 18 07:07:53 <RustyShackleford> Transportation
Nov 18 07:08:06 <TacticalJoke> Ah.  (Not American.)
Nov 18 07:08:16 <TacticalJoke> Did you packet-sniff the emulator?  Just wondering.
Nov 18 07:08:33 <RustyShackleford> no, my phone
Nov 18 07:08:38 <TacticalJoke> Does that require root?
Nov 18 07:08:45 <adq> yes
Nov 18 07:08:45 <TacticalJoke> I'm gonna probably have to packet-sniff Android at some point.  ;|
Nov 18 07:08:45 <RustyShackleford> wireshark is complicated
Nov 18 07:08:56 <TacticalJoke> I wonder whether I could easily packet-sniff the emulator.
Nov 18 07:09:02 <TacticalJoke> Yeah, Wireshark has always been complicated.
Nov 18 07:09:17 <adq> wireshark is a front-end of tcpdump, + many features
Nov 18 07:09:27 <RustyShackleford> I was using my laptop to sniff packets, my phone was connected to the same wireless network
Nov 18 07:09:31 <adq> it's just that network protocols stuff is enormous, but it's not so complicated
Nov 18 07:09:48 <TacticalJoke> RustyShackleford:  Hmm, nice idea.
Nov 18 07:11:21 <RustyShackleford> this app is so bad. I think they might use the same javascript map as their website
Nov 18 07:11:35 <RustyShackleford> the app might just be their website inside a WebView
Nov 18 07:15:09 <TacticalJoke> Hmm, I feel like humanity could come up with something nicer than JSON and Yaml.
Nov 18 07:15:25 <TacticalJoke> Something that's still a text format.
Nov 18 07:16:03 <TacticalJoke> Thank goodness we don't rely on XML much nowadays, though.
Nov 18 07:16:10 <TacticalJoke> Well, outside of Android programming.
Nov 18 07:16:44 <adq> "JSON Schema is based on the concepts from XML Schema (XSD), but is JSON-based. "
Nov 18 07:16:46 <adq> sorry :)
Nov 18 07:17:03 <adq> it's a tree
Nov 18 07:17:58 <adq> you could imagine that the { } of a node are very similar to <node> and </node>
Nov 18 07:18:14 <adq> it just a different syntax, but concept is highly close
Nov 18 07:18:37 <JakeWharton> protocol buffers have a text format
Nov 18 07:18:55 <adq> protobuf is binary compressed iirc
Nov 18 07:19:36 <JakeWharton> which is why i said they have a text format not are a text format
Nov 18 07:19:56 <adq> ahhh indeed
Nov 18 07:20:12 <JakeWharton> you could also just protos as a schema for json
Nov 18 07:20:36 <adq> yup, i played a bit with it long time ago, when play store was called android market
Nov 18 07:20:52 <adq> they use protobuff internally to process the requests between the client & the server
Nov 18 07:21:13 <adq> and it is json based
Nov 18 07:23:24 <JakeWharton> was
Nov 18 07:24:00 <adq> I have no clue what they are using nowadays
Nov 18 07:24:05 <JakeWharton> they use protos
Nov 18 07:24:09 <Agamemnus> UNREAL
Nov 18 07:24:16 <Agamemnus> Everybody
Nov 18 07:24:30 <Agamemnus> I was using 950 megabytes of video memory :(
Nov 18 07:24:55 <Agamemnus> But I switched to... <meta name='viewport' content='width=device-width, initial-scale=.1, maximum-scale=.1, user-scalable=0' /> ... and now everything is excellent
Nov 18 07:25:42 <Agamemnus> Can you imagine
Nov 18 07:27:27 <Agamemnus> oh my god
Nov 18 07:27:50 <razzledazzle> http://pastebin.com/d4NV5ph8, fragment replacements are overlapping hurr durr
Nov 18 07:28:08 <razzledazzle> I'm just trying to wrap around a PullToRefreshLayout dynamically
Nov 18 07:28:29 <Agamemnus> it's so fast now
Nov 18 07:28:43 <razzledazzle> how do I correctly achieve it without the overlapping fragments issue?
Nov 18 07:30:26 <razzledazzle> Agamemnus, my reaction when I got my x86 virtual device running for the first time, I literally jumped!
Nov 18 07:30:46 <Agamemnus> :d
Nov 18 07:30:57 <Agamemnus> too bad it is 2:30
Nov 18 07:31:01 <Agamemnus> and i need to water the turtle
Nov 18 07:31:16 <razzledazzle> at the time, didn't expect such a difference, on a netbook
Nov 18 07:31:23 <razzledazzle> turtles need watering? o_O
Nov 18 07:31:39 <g00s> trolls do too !
Nov 18 07:32:02 <g00s> but its best to give them pesticides instead
Nov 18 07:32:59 <JesusFreke> I find they tend to die out if you don't water or feed them ;)
Nov 18 07:34:35 <adq> they die only with a flamed arrow ;)
Nov 18 07:40:30 <TacticalJoke> Hmm, Linus said he doesn't like Debian because it's hard to install: http://youtu.be/qHGTs1NSB1s
Nov 18 07:40:33 <TacticalJoke> Not sure if sarcastic.
Nov 18 07:41:16 <TacticalJoke> Okay, seems he's not being sarcastic.
Nov 18 07:44:10 <RustyShackleford> well packet sniffing isn't working. Are there some android tools I can use to see where my phone is making requests over the internet?
Nov 18 07:44:20 <RustyShackleford> adb or something
Nov 18 07:49:34 <TacticalJoke> RustyShackleford:  I'd like to know the answer to that.
Nov 18 07:51:48 <RustyShackleford> well they DO have an API
Nov 18 07:52:05 <RustyShackleford> looks like I need to fill out some paperwork. and they have alot of restrictions :/
Nov 18 07:52:41 <RustyShackleford> I can access the xml feed once every 5 minutes. I guess that means I'll need a server to redistribute it
Nov 18 07:53:38 <TacticalJoke> What is it?  A train/bus/whatever thing?
Nov 18 07:53:43 <TacticalJoke> Once every five minutes is kinda strict.
Nov 18 07:56:29 <niru> Hi
Nov 18 07:57:28 <g00s> a while back i heard google was working on an api for app native help without punting to a browser - anyone hear about that lately ?
Nov 18 08:08:12 <g00s> oh my, seals have been caught having sex with penguins
Nov 18 08:10:25 <smart_ptr> hi
Nov 18 08:10:54 <smart_ptr> I just created an empty project in Android Studio, with a button on it. I tested it on my Nexus 4 (/w Android 5)!
Nov 18 08:11:05 <smart_ptr> If i click the button, the characteristic material design animation does not pop up!
Nov 18 08:11:10 <smart_ptr> do i have to do some extra work?
Nov 18 08:11:19 <g00s> you need more padding
Nov 18 08:11:40 <g00s> if you give the button enough padding and whitespace, it will animate
Nov 18 08:12:21 <g00s> just kidding :D but one you get the animation right, then you are fully material
Nov 18 08:13:08 <smart_ptr> :[
Nov 18 08:13:14 <smart_ptr> but these build settings seem correct, right? http://ideone.com/p4lgKP
Nov 18 08:13:26 <StingRay_> g00s I picked out 4 apps that are on play in my field and you can now change all the screenshots between them and it makes no diff, thats the literal result of material following :)
Nov 18 08:13:39 <StingRay_> evolve/chomp/textra etc
Nov 18 08:18:58 <niru> I want to invoke a function and when the function finishes its task I want to have a porgress bar showing up.I googled and found that asynctask is best for this kind of situations
Nov 18 08:19:16 <g00s> bankai_au is this what you guys do for fun ? http://giant.gfycat.com/WebbedUnsungBrocketdeer.gif
Nov 18 08:19:56 <niru> how to implement this
Nov 18 08:20:05 <TacticalJoke> niru:  Google some more?  :D
Nov 18 08:20:18 <g00s> StingRay_ i guess you have 4 competitors ahead of you XD
Nov 18 08:20:29 <TacticalJoke> niru:  Just create an AsyncTask that calls Thread.sleep(10000) in the background (to simulate doing work).
Nov 18 08:20:54 <StingRay_> g00s ahead ? I keep telling you I have had material themes available for over 5 months   lol
Nov 18 08:21:12 <StingRay_> and no, not ahead, just....designless grouped ;)
Nov 18 08:21:18 <g00s> so then your app looks like theirs :D
Nov 18 08:21:28 <StingRay_> well if you choose that theme yes
Nov 18 08:21:40 <StingRay_> or one of those themes etc
Nov 18 08:21:54 <niru> TacticalJoke: and where to give progressbar running in postexecute
Nov 18 08:22:01 <StingRay_> if not then no, looks nothing like   lol
Nov 18 08:22:29 <TacticalJoke> niru:  This is all googlable.
Nov 18 08:22:48 <TacticalJoke> I don't mean to be mean.  It's just that I would literally be Ctrl+Cing from Google if I answered.  :)
Nov 18 08:22:51 <niru> TacticalJoke: ok
Nov 18 08:23:35 <fancy42> does anybody here now squabbler? anyways they're allowing you to draw stuff on an OpenGL rendered map. since i upgraded to android 5, i get really weird drawing errors. does anybody know what has changed in the OpenGL interface in lollipop? where can i go for information?
Nov 18 08:23:45 <fancy42> *skobbler
Nov 18 08:29:54 <kevel1> How does everyone deal with confidential details within their app?
Nov 18 08:30:03 <kevel1> API endpoints, tokens, keys, secrets?
Nov 18 08:30:11 <ravilov> proguard of course
Nov 18 08:34:01 <kevel1> ravilov, and storing them?  Would use place them directly in your code, can u use gradle to do something clever?
Nov 18 08:34:46 <ravilov> no idea
Nov 18 08:35:19 <ravilov> all I know is, proguard is the way to go
Nov 18 08:35:29 <g00s> >.>
Nov 18 08:35:39 <g00s> ravioli, wat ?
Nov 18 08:35:49 <Darklust> Ravioli knows his shit
Nov 18 08:44:04 <adq> kevel1, try never put sensible data in your app, it's like leaving the key of your door under the doormat
Nov 18 08:44:16 <adq> try to*
Nov 18 08:45:51 <kevel1> adq, sometimes you have to for api auth stuff
Nov 18 08:45:52 <kevel1> :(
Nov 18 08:46:00 <kevel1> ravilov, ive nearly sorted out proguard
Nov 18 08:46:07 <kevel1> just the odd lib i need to fix :(
Nov 18 08:54:24 <Darklust> I've spent the last several hours attempting to conquer the android flappy bird easter egg
Nov 18 08:54:34 <Darklust> Is there something wrong with me
Nov 18 08:56:22 <ravilov> yes
Nov 18 08:56:37 <TacticalJoke> Diagnosis: human.
Nov 18 08:56:48 <Darklust> Is it terminal?
Nov 18 08:56:52 <ObrienDave> yes, wasting hours on it
Nov 18 08:57:17 <TacticalJoke> Yes, it usually is.
Nov 18 08:57:35 <TacticalJoke> 100% of my patients die.
Nov 18 08:57:39 <TacticalJoke> I'm sorry.
Nov 18 09:02:42 <ObrienDave> nice knowing you, maybe ;p
Nov 18 09:12:51 <TacticalJoke> Does anyone use multireddits?
Nov 18 09:16:39 <Ankhwatcher> Good Morning#
Nov 18 09:16:43 <Ankhwatcher> All
Nov 18 09:20:14 <TacticalJoke> <voice style="Arnie">Good morning.</voice>
Nov 18 10:00:41 <TacticalJoke> People hero-worship MKBHD on Reddit.
Nov 18 10:02:58 <shmooz> I never got into reddit, the topics always seemed so airheaded
Nov 18 10:03:17 <TacticalJoke> It varies so much.
Nov 18 10:03:36 <TacticalJoke> http://programming.reddit.com/ is great, for example.
Nov 18 10:03:44 <TacticalJoke> http://androiddev.reddit.com/ seems quite good.
Nov 18 10:06:31 <bda> Could anyone spare a few mins to help me with And_studio?
Nov 18 10:06:49 <bda> Could anyone spare a few mins to help me with And_studio and thats on windows?
Nov 18 10:07:47 <razzledazzle> bda, what's the matter?
Nov 18 10:08:38 <lasserix> the 10dollar dinner
Nov 18 10:08:42 <lasserix> subreddit is badass
Nov 18 10:09:12 <shmooz> bah, I'm still a slahsdotter
Nov 18 10:10:52 <TacticalJoke> Slashdot has the worst UI.
Nov 18 10:10:57 <TacticalJoke> Though Reddit's is also pretty bad.
Nov 18 10:11:32 <TacticalJoke> Wow, there are Slashdot clients for Android.
Nov 18 10:11:39 <TacticalJoke> Though it kinda makes sense.
Nov 18 10:11:52 <shmooz> slashdot is the original
Nov 18 10:12:16 <shmooz> I got into digg for awhile but then went back to slash
Nov 18 10:12:28 <lasserix> its not like
Nov 18 10:12:32 <lasserix> EITHER OR
Nov 18 10:12:59 <shmooz> true but hey, everything looks the same to me
Nov 18 10:13:02 <lasserix> TacticalJoke: what do you expect of a website that named itself purposelly to confuse people?
Nov 18 10:23:24 <shmooz> so it looks like google glass suddenly dropped dead
Nov 18 10:23:31 <VnM> woot
Nov 18 10:23:43 <VnM> Was a shitty idea anyway
Nov 18 10:23:57 <shmooz> ahead of it's time
Nov 18 10:24:27 <shmooz> when you can make it look like an ordinary pair of raybans and have it adjustable transparency with fullscreen 16K resolution ...
Nov 18 10:24:47 <shmooz> that's when we'll all want one
Nov 18 10:25:04 <VnM> Still not interested in having people with cameras mounted to their faces passively recording me 24/7 wherever I walk
Nov 18 10:25:43 <StingRay_> VnM not a prob, google "homemade EMP"
Nov 18 10:26:07 <VnM> Haha, better shield off my own devices then
Nov 18 10:26:27 <shmooz> will that effect heart devices too ?
Nov 18 10:26:46 <StingRay_> a little
Nov 18 10:27:09 <shmooz> brilliant!
Nov 18 10:32:46 <p_l> VnM: well, Google Glass was actually rare in making it easily noticeable that you're recorded, comparatively to what is available from two-bit shops in shopping malls
Nov 18 10:34:07 <FrancescoV> Hi all
Nov 18 10:34:31 <FrancescoV> I have 2 dialogs. One for picking a date, and one for picking the time
Nov 18 10:34:50 <FrancescoV> any suggestions for making this work in one dialog, must work on phone & tablet. (ui suggestions)
Nov 18 10:36:41 <lasserix> FrancescoV: hide/show container in the dialog
Nov 18 10:36:49 <lasserix> use a viewflipper in the dialog?
Nov 18 10:36:57 <lasserix> use a scrollview int he dialog?
Nov 18 10:37:07 <FrancescoV> thanks! wasn't thinking about flipping between them
Nov 18 11:02:47 <FrancescoV> which theme should I use to get this time picker? http://a5e2fba00d8bcb729d89839f.javacodegeeks.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/time-picker-dialog1.jpg
Nov 18 11:09:43 <smart_ptr> how can i style my buttons in android 5?
Nov 18 11:09:45 <smart_ptr> i want to give them some custom _ripple_ color
Nov 18 11:26:14 <shmooz> smart_ptr: create a style.xml file with a style/theme and then you can  setTheme on the button
Nov 18 11:29:38 <shmooz> smart_ptr: you can put like <style name="RippleTheme" > <item name="android:background">@drawable/ripple_pic</item> ...
Nov 18 11:31:14 <smart_ptr> ok
Nov 18 11:32:14 <shmooz> and then you can do  button.setTheme(R.style.RippleTheme);
Nov 18 11:36:48 <shmooz> smart_ptr: ok it seems button doesn't have setTheme, you probably need to use  button.setBackgroundResource(R.drawable.ripple_pic); or something like that
Nov 18 11:37:04 <smart_ptr> yeah i'll try that!
Nov 18 11:38:25 <FrancescoV> if you have a dialogfragment, when pushing the positive button, the dialog closes, how can i prevent this?
Nov 18 11:44:42 <shmooz> FrancescoV: I thought you needed to put a dialog.dismiss(); to have it gone, but I never tried without it
Nov 18 11:45:11 <FrancescoV> shmooz: no, positive button closes by default here
Nov 18 11:45:28 <TacticalJoke> It should close by default.
Nov 18 11:45:34 <TacticalJoke> Same with cancel button.
Nov 18 11:45:47 <ApplesInArrays> right now my "Change Activity" function looks like this: Intent intent = new Intent(this, MainActivity.class); startActivity(intent);
Nov 18 11:45:47 <TacticalJoke> s/cancel/negative/
Nov 18 11:45:57 <stenosis> hey there, is it tricky to implement the material touch effect on simple imagebuttons?
Nov 18 11:46:07 <shmooz> FrancescoV: yeah you are right, it's only the negative in my code as well
Nov 18 11:46:33 <FrancescoV> going to create custom buttons
Nov 18 11:46:51 <FrancescoV> custom layout
Nov 18 11:47:46 <ApplesInArrays> Is that best practices? I'm gusesing I should put finish() in there as well if I don't want to be able to return to it.
Nov 18 11:48:23 <FrancescoV> finish() where?
Nov 18 11:49:03 <shmooz> FrancescoV: seems a lot of answers on google for that  https://www.google.ca/search?q=android+stop+dialog+positive+button+from+closing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=rjFrVPW3K42kqQPwn4G4Ag
Nov 18 11:49:53 <FrancescoV> shmooz: i know, but most are alertdialog, i'm using dialogfragment and this isn't that hard to make it work
Nov 18 11:50:11 <FrancescoV> it's already working fine now :)
Nov 18 11:50:17 <ApplesInArrays> FrancescoV: I dno't know. I guess I'll try it before and after I broadcast the intent.
Nov 18 11:50:53 <ApplesInArrays> but I have a feeling once the intent is received, the activity wno't be able to run code in teh background.
Nov 18 11:51:16 <shmooz> ApplesInArrays: usually in onBackPressed when the user is pressing the back button for the last time to exit the app
Nov 18 11:51:17 <FrancescoV> it is a DateTimeDialog, type can be "date"| "time" | "datetime", when it's "datetime", i first show a datepicker, when pressing button, a timepicker comes visible
Nov 18 11:52:36 <ApplesInArrays> shmooz: perhaps I have an activity I only want you to see once. You go there, click a button which sends you to another activity and also destroys the one-time-activity. You continue using the app as normal visiting other activities. That's the intent.
Nov 18 11:52:54 <shmooz> ok
Nov 18 11:52:55 <ApplesInArrays> Maybe I could store something in sharedpreferences to add logic so no buttons point to that activity anymore.
Nov 18 11:56:01 <AC-130U> how good is the "android applicaiton development for dummies" book?
Nov 18 11:56:58 <ApplesInArrays> 2nd edition october 2012?
Nov 18 11:57:08 <AC-130U> i believe so
Nov 18 11:57:16 <AC-130U> i found a couple other books newer, 2013
Nov 18 11:58:57 <ApplesInArrays> Huh, I guess my internet connection breaks when I torrent.
Nov 18 11:59:24 <shmooz> AC-130U: just read it, I skimmed through it at some library, it was very basic but still good I guess
Nov 18 11:59:37 <AC-130U> thats kinda what i figured
Nov 18 11:59:39 <shmooz> and old
Nov 18 11:59:50 <shmooz> but old is still good
Nov 18 11:59:59 <AC-130U> 2013 versions of the books i found may have slightl ynewer stuff in it
Nov 18 12:00:02 <shmooz> I prefer the O'reilly one
Nov 18 12:00:21 <ApplesInArrays> Annuzzi J. Jr., Darcey L., Conder S. - Introduction to Android Application Development, 4th Edition (Developer's Library) - 2013 seems nice.
Nov 18 12:00:41 <AC-130U> i dont think i saw the oreilley one on torrents
Nov 18 12:01:02 <TacticalJoke> ApplesInArrays:  You're doing a show-on-first-run-only Activity?
Nov 18 12:01:07 <TacticalJoke> first-app-run*
Nov 18 12:01:26 <ApplesInArrays> TacticalJoke: I'm really just trying to solve this imaginary problem in order to learn better practices, but yeah.
Nov 18 12:01:44 <ApplesInArrays> "What's the Android way of solving this problem?" basically
Nov 18 12:01:46 <TacticalJoke> I think the best solution is for MainActivity to show the secondary Activity in MainActivity.onCreate.
Nov 18 12:01:52 <TacticalJoke> Using startActivityForResult.
Nov 18 12:02:09 <ApplesInArrays> and the onActivityresult() do what?
Nov 18 12:02:31 <TacticalJoke> Well, I guess that's needed only if you want to allow the user to go back and kill the app.
Nov 18 12:02:35 <ApplesInArrays> AC-130U: can I PM you a link?
Nov 18 12:02:37 <TacticalJoke> From the "show only once" Activity.
Nov 18 12:02:43 <AC-130U> soitinly
Nov 18 12:02:58 <TacticalJoke> Books seem slow to me
Nov 18 12:02:59 <TacticalJoke> .
Nov 18 12:03:09 <TacticalJoke> Writing code and reading sites seems fastest.
Nov 18 12:03:12 <TacticalJoke> seem*
Nov 18 12:03:17 <ApplesInArrays> tutorialspoint.com if you wanna learn like a winner.
Nov 18 12:03:28 <ApplesInArrays> Look at me, I learned 2 entire concepts yesterday.
Nov 18 12:03:35 <ApplesInArrays> Probably the equivalent of 30 minutes in a college lecture.
Nov 18 12:13:17 <shmooz> ApplesInArrays: what kind of app do you want to make ?
Nov 18 12:13:46 <ApplesInArrays> shmooz: Now I'm just trying to get the lay of the land, but I have a list of 7 apps that I'd be interested in making
Nov 18 12:14:23 <ApplesInArrays> location + group based to-do list, local food shelter volunteer request broadcast thing
Nov 18 12:14:28 <shmooz> it's good to have a goal app to achieve then stubbornly get stuck and google stackoverlow tricks over and over
Nov 18 12:14:34 <ApplesInArrays> a scheduling app
Nov 18 12:15:35 <ApplesInArrays> right now I'm doing sharedpreferences, edittext.getText/setText , basic layouts
Nov 18 12:16:13 <ApplesInArrays> but yeah, it looks like I'm as focused as a beheaded chicken
Nov 18 12:18:53 <ApplesInArrays> I am SeaBiscuit.
Nov 18 12:20:43 <thepoosh> sometimes i hate our product people
Nov 18 12:21:03 <shmooz> yeah but they bring home the bacon
Nov 18 12:22:28 <capella> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   .......... chicken, biscuits, and bacon...
Nov 18 12:22:51 <shmooz> I'm sold
Nov 18 12:23:12 <thepoosh> if I want to catch a BROWSABLE intent, is there a length limit to the URL?
Nov 18 12:23:32 <thepoosh> meaning, my product person wants to encode HTML in the URL he's passing
Nov 18 12:23:41 <t0th_-_> hi, how i can see why my package.R is not generated?
Nov 18 12:23:42 <thepoosh> and I want to tell him it won't happen
Nov 18 12:23:55 <thepoosh> t0th_-_: you probably have an xml error
Nov 18 12:24:28 <thepoosh> if any of your res/* files is bad, R won't generate
Nov 18 12:24:44 <AC-130U> what languages besides xml/java can apps be?
Nov 18 12:26:33 <Sepho> Hi folks
Nov 18 12:29:10 <shmooz> AC-130U: some people prefer scala, and some do it in C with NDK with java wrappers around them
Nov 18 12:29:40 <Sepho> I'm trying out the new RecyclerView, so I created a simple project where I fetch a list of tv channels, showing their channel name and channel logo. For this I'm using an RecyclerView adapter and asynctask to fetch each channel's logo. But I'm having a trouble (I had this one too using listview's but I didn't remember how I fixed it). The problem is, I'm fetching channel's name and logo properly, but when I scroll and then go back to
Nov 18 12:29:47 <Sepho> Thanks!!
Nov 18 12:29:55 <Sepho> I know is a common trouble using a listview with remote images
Nov 18 12:30:10 <AC-130U> scala, eh?  never heard of that
Nov 18 12:30:12 <Sepho> But I couldn't find an answer :(
Nov 18 12:30:54 <AC-130U> ahhh i see what it is now
Nov 18 12:31:24 <shmooz> and recently people have been hyping doing it in C# with Xamarin
Nov 18 12:36:46 <shmooz> Sepho: you probably have to show some code on pastebin or whatever
Nov 18 12:38:02 <Sepho> shmooz: I did, the last part of the question! :P
Nov 18 12:38:43 <shmooz> it's missing
Nov 18 12:39:36 <Sepho> http://pastebin.com/JzrRbqmG
Nov 18 12:39:39 <shmooz> Sepho: your question has been cut off without completing
Nov 18 12:40:02 <Sepho> I found this post: http://goo.gl/vi3SEV
Nov 18 12:40:12 <Sepho> I think it should work, I'll try it
Nov 18 13:00:06 <fancy42> can i somehow fake the build.model value? i'm using a 3rd party SDK and i want it to think that i'm a different device
Nov 18 13:21:45 <_flip> hey. I've got a problem a list view items "checked" background. I've created a selector that i've specified as the list items background. Is this not how it's supposed to be done?
Nov 18 13:24:04 <_flip> I can see that the position is indeed getting "checked". The textview's text fades - i assume this is a default selector (as i havent specified the color)
Nov 18 13:27:37 <t0th_-_> hi
Nov 18 13:27:50 <t0th_-_> how i can solve this error: fragment_main.xml: android/support/v4/widget/SwipeRefreshLayout : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0 ?
Nov 18 13:28:38 <ApplesInArrays> Hey guys, I finally finished my app. You can type in a message, hit a button ,and it saves the message to sharedPrefs. The next time you open the app it greets you with the recorded message, if there is one.
Nov 18 13:31:25 <_flip> Congrats
Nov 18 13:31:50 <VnM> Shut up and take my money
Nov 18 13:31:57 <ApplesInArrays> There's also a kill button with android:onClick="finish" which forceCloses the app when you're finished.
Nov 18 13:32:03 <ApplesInArrays> but I think that should be DLC
Nov 18 13:33:14 <woozly> dammit, guys, which is simple method to animate changing size of Button view?
Nov 18 13:33:24 <woozly> I trying to use ObjectAnimator
Nov 18 13:33:35 <woozly> of property 'height', but nothing: /
Nov 18 13:35:49 <_flip> christ. the selector items had to have state_enabled=true
Nov 18 13:37:36 <MoshDev> Hello, is there anyway to know when the webview finished rendering?
Nov 18 13:38:58 <VnM> onPageFinished is your best way of finding out MoshDev
Nov 18 13:39:10 <MoshDev> @VnM thanks
Nov 18 13:39:24 <MoshDev> VnM: thanks, but this doesn't work for rendering
Nov 18 13:39:42 <MoshDev> VnM: Notify the host application that a page has finished loading (not rendering)
Nov 18 13:40:10 <MoshDev> also the html page contains javascripts that load internal content
Nov 18 13:40:17 <VnM> Well then you could implement some sort of javascript interface that does a call to your native code from your javascript code when it's done rendering
Nov 18 13:40:35 <Beket> Hi people. Does android save atime in files?
Nov 18 13:41:14 <MoshDev> the problem I don't write the files on my own, I download them from another source
Nov 18 13:41:16 <MoshDev> :(
Nov 18 13:42:02 <FrancescoV> Hi, my target api level is 19 but I still got the old styled datepicker like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/T27Fj.png how can I got the normal ones? like those http://i.stack.imgur.com/SzmcI.png
Nov 18 13:42:32 <MoshDev> FrancescoV: make sure you using the correct new theme not old one in your style xml
Nov 18 13:42:34 <VnM> If you can't access the javascript then you could put a small timer in your onPageFinished or so to guess when it's ready but that'd be ugly, best way would be to alter the js and add a call to your native code
Nov 18 13:43:05 <MoshDev> VnM: I could do that, but some of pages needs more time than the timer do
Nov 18 13:43:18 <FrancescoV> MoshDev: theme is @android:style/Theme.Holo.Light
Nov 18 13:43:38 <MoshDev> VnM: I did try various times like (1 sec or 2)
Nov 18 13:43:57 <MoshDev> VnM: but in some cases rendering takes more than 5 seconds to finish :D
Nov 18 13:44:38 <MoshDev> FrancescoV: is it the default theme in your values/styles.xml
Nov 18 13:44:57 <FrancescoV> MoshDev: in styles.xml
Nov 18 13:45:27 <MoshDev> FrancescoV: in values/styles.xml ? or values-vxx/styles.xml
Nov 18 13:45:48 <FrancescoV> MoshDev: fuck, found it :p stupid theme on activity. auto generated from phonegap
Nov 18 13:45:58 <MoshDev> FrancescoV: :)
Nov 18 13:46:06 <FrancescoV> thanks!
Nov 18 13:46:09 <MoshDev> welcome
Nov 18 13:50:05 <palomer> hey guys
Nov 18 13:50:30 <MartialLaw> hi
Nov 18 13:51:57 <palomer> when I try to run my emulator from android studio, nothing happens :(
Nov 18 13:52:04 <palomer> when it's x86
Nov 18 13:52:09 <palomer> arm is just plain too slow!
Nov 18 13:53:05 <palomer> anyone got any ideas?
Nov 18 13:53:32 <Memorion> palomer tried genymotion?
Nov 18 13:54:23 <palomer> downloading it right now
Nov 18 13:54:50 <palomer> is it easy to integrate with android studio?
Nov 18 13:56:21 <Memorion> you just start it and it shows up in android studio automatically
Nov 18 14:12:12 <the_fog> palomer https://cloud.genymotion.com/page/doc/#collapse-intellij
Nov 18 14:18:30 <blues-man> how to suggest changes in wrong or not updated code snippets in developer.android.com ?
Nov 18 14:18:59 <ApplesInArrays> I was thinking about doing that, but I figure they'll update quickly enough where it won't matter.
Nov 18 14:19:39 <VnM> Report it with facepalm.gif attached to the report
Nov 18 14:19:42 <ApplesInArrays> 1st tutorial talks about creating blank activities, then references fragments on the next page. makes it a bit tough to follow.
Nov 18 14:21:16 <blues-man> VnM, lol
Nov 18 14:22:12 <blues-man> ApplesInArrays, here http://developer.android.com/google/gcm/client.html the AsyncTask should have 3 type params as Void,Void,String
Nov 18 14:22:39 <ApplesInArrays> I don't know my android ass from elbows. Showing me that isn't going to help.
Nov 18 14:23:05 <blues-man> :D
Nov 18 14:24:42 <palomer> hey guys, is it normal for genymotion to take 3 minutes to start?
Nov 18 14:26:16 <blues-man> is using haxm with intel image?
Nov 18 14:26:39 <adq> palomer, nope
Nov 18 14:27:10 <palomer> blues-man: I don't know. How do I make that happen?
Nov 18 14:27:44 <xgearx> Hello! I have OpenGL es related question. I have frame buffer from which i create bitmap. So i use glReadPixels to get ByteBuffer of farm buffer, then i transform ByteBuffer to Bitmap. If i want to create bitmap from 2 frame buffers. Just combine them. Can i use OpenGL features for it or the only way is to create 2 bitmaps from frame buffers and then combine them using canvas?
Nov 18 14:28:40 <fancy42> can i somehow fake the build.model value? i'm using a 3rd party SDK and i want it to think that i'm a different device
Nov 18 14:29:38 <blues-man> palomer, on mac/win use https://software.intel.com/en-us/android/articles/intel-hardware-accelerated-execution-manager on linux just use KVM and have fun. It could be a cache/snapshot image issue, try to delete something if you already use those hardware assisted virtualization technology
Nov 18 14:30:40 <palomer> I already installed haxm through android studio
Nov 18 14:30:43 <palomer> does that count?
Nov 18 14:31:34 <I440r> anyone here up on JNI?
Nov 18 14:31:37 <davidcorrado> I am setting buttonStyle for a theme and it seems to no longer support material design.  Anyone know what parent to set?
Nov 18 14:31:39 <davidcorrado> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26983641/material-design-custom-view-theme
Nov 18 14:31:44 <blues-man> yes it does, check if you image is intel based x86 or arm
Nov 18 14:31:53 <blues-man> s/you/your/
Nov 18 14:33:10 <palomer> blues-man: how do I do that?
Nov 18 14:33:15 <blues-man> 3 minutes for haxm and "use Host GPU" option, is too munch
Nov 18 14:33:46 <palomer> blues-man: I didn't set any options in genymotion
Nov 18 14:33:51 <palomer> I just installed the image
Nov 18 14:33:52 <blues-man> open AVD manager or the genymotion one
Nov 18 14:33:56 <adq> genymotion is using virtualbox
Nov 18 14:34:05 <adq> it has nothing to do with haxm which is needed for avd
Nov 18 14:34:29 <blues-man> adq, can't been used together as well?
Nov 18 14:34:55 <adq> i'm using avd (with HAXM) and genymotion and i never experienced any conflict
Nov 18 14:35:25 <adq> palomer, be sure your cpu supports virtualization and vt-x is enabled
Nov 18 14:35:44 <adq> otherwise check your logs, ask their support maybe
Nov 18 14:36:05 <adq> it's also buggy from time to time, i just kill the genymotion vm and restart it
Nov 18 14:36:25 <blues-man> yes vt-x is enough
Nov 18 14:36:54 <palomer> adq: I have no idea
Nov 18 14:39:05 <palomer> ok, I managed to run a 4.1.1 image
Nov 18 14:39:13 <palomer> yipeeeee!
Nov 18 14:41:08 <palomer> and... my app doesn't work on it :(
Nov 18 14:41:22 <palomer> maybe I should just run my app on my phone
Nov 18 14:42:06 <Memorion> what exactly means doesn't work? does it crash?
Nov 18 14:42:34 <shekibobo> so, java seems incapable of recognizing the ˚, °, and … characters...
Nov 18 14:43:01 <shekibobo> can't seem to map them from ASCII, at least that's what the compiler says
Nov 18 14:43:32 <shekibobo> even though all my configurations say "USE UTF-8 FOR EVERYTHING", and my files are all UTF-8....
Nov 18 14:43:56 <palomer> Memorion: my application is a textbox and a button below
Nov 18 14:43:59 <shekibobo> and it can't compare them, even though they're the same character...
Nov 18 14:44:08 <palomer> Memorion: the button doesn't display properly
Nov 18 14:44:59 <Memorion> palomer and it works correctly where?
Nov 18 14:45:50 <shekibobo> assertThat(unitsTextView).hasTextString("(°F)"); // =>  java.lang.AssertionError: Expected text string <(??F)> but was <(?F)>.
Nov 18 14:46:13 <shekibobo> anyone know how to tell java to shut up and use utf8?
Nov 18 14:47:03 <palomer> Memorion: in the preview window
Nov 18 14:48:04 <Memorion> palomer hm, since the preview can only render the xml I can only imagine your java code somehow screws it up?
Nov 18 14:49:29 <palomer> Memorion: is it possible that it's an sdk problem?
Nov 18 14:49:39 <palomer> Memorion: in android studio I'm using the 5.0 sdk
Nov 18 14:51:15 <palomer> oh, seems my button was just squished because the image had a way smaller screen
Nov 18 14:51:25 <palomer> my bad :o
Nov 18 14:54:00 <lasserix> Hello. I got a local server running on the device. I am uploading something via REST, but I am getting a socket time out exception. Anyone know how i can fix?
Nov 18 14:59:49 <mezzer> Hey guys :)
Nov 18 15:00:35 <pangelovski> mezzer:hello
Nov 18 15:00:50 <mezzer> I'm searching for a way to change colorControlNormal style attr durring runtime
Nov 18 15:02:42 <mezzer> that's is to change the color of the back and hamburger button between fragment transitions
Nov 18 15:07:35 <egonsen> hi. how does my android application have to react when the user forces the app do stop with a task killer or the system decides to kill my app while a background task is running?
Nov 18 15:07:56 <ApplesInArrays> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html
Nov 18 15:08:46 <cezium> Anyone encountered problems with singleline comments in javascript (//) with the android WebView?
Nov 18 15:12:38 <lasserix> egonsen: typically you just want to make sure any data you save is secure (ie, fire off something in onPause if the data is dirty)
Nov 18 15:14:19 <I440r> how do i objdump a library and make it NOT truncate the symbol names it thinks are too long?
Nov 18 15:14:41 <egonsen> lasserix: do i don't have to care about unclosed resources?
Nov 18 15:21:05 <I440r> i have a java byte[] that im passing to a native function.  i tell the native function to expect a jbyte * and it fails to link.  i tell it to expect a jbyteArray and it fails to link.
Nov 18 15:21:25 <I440r> no matter what i do i cannot get my java byte[] to match up with any native data type
Nov 18 15:21:32 <I440r> and the people in #java are emo
Nov 18 15:22:13 <palomer> does anyone know how to run your app directly on your phone?
Nov 18 15:24:39 <egonsen> palomer: http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html
Nov 18 15:26:24 <lasserix> egonsen: if you app is killed those will automatically be closed
Nov 18 15:26:40 <palomer> I'm trying to follow http://developer.android.com/tools/extras/oem-usb.html#Win7
Nov 18 15:27:08 <palomer> but I can't figure out step 3 "Select Devices in the left pane."
Nov 18 15:27:16 <palomer> and step 4 " Locate and expand Other device in the right pane. "
Nov 18 15:27:41 <lasserix> palomer: just open up device manager
Nov 18 15:27:48 <lasserix> find the unrecognized usb device
Nov 18 15:27:56 <lasserix> click into it and update drivers
Nov 18 15:28:36 <lasserix> palomer: you can either fire off the app via commandline/ide or generate a signed apk and install it by pushing the apk to the device and clicking the apk which will install it
Nov 18 15:28:47 <palomer> there is no unrecognized usb device
Nov 18 15:29:20 <lasserix> is there a usb device?
Nov 18 15:29:22 <palomer> ah, figured it out :)!
Nov 18 15:29:25 <lasserix> you can update hte drivers
Nov 18 15:34:39 <alex__c2022> been looking through the docs but can’t find a straightforward answer, if I want to support sdk version 16+, do I need android support library?
Nov 18 15:34:50 <lasserix> no
Nov 18 15:35:03 <lasserix> not unless you want like view pager or something
Nov 18 15:37:40 <palomer> hey guys
Nov 18 15:37:51 <palomer> how do I find out where my adb is installed?
Nov 18 15:39:16 <palomer> brb
Nov 18 15:40:08 <mattblang> any good solutions for mapping a large POJO to XML easily (doing a large profile page)
Nov 18 15:40:38 <mattblang> guess I could just dynamically generate the text fields
Nov 18 16:19:16 <johnflux> Hey all
Nov 18 16:19:22 <johnflux> I don't get what Context is
Nov 18 16:19:53 <skinux> I can't get a GridLayout to align to middle of screen vertically.
Nov 18 16:20:20 <AlexBerdnikov> johnflux, you don't get it reading about it where?
Nov 18 16:23:27 <johnflux> I have an ArrayAdapter.  Is there any difference between using, say,    getContext()   and   myview.getActivity().getApplicationContext() ?
Nov 18 16:25:55 <AlexBerdnikov> You mean for Context argument in Adatpter constructor?
Nov 18 16:26:44 <hosomy> where can i find class and XML responsible for call screen?
Nov 18 16:28:17 <Mavrik> johnflux, depends on what you're calling getContext()
Nov 18 16:28:27 <Mavrik> there's alot of classes that derive from context
Nov 18 16:29:48 <AlexBerdnikov> johnflux, so you don't get the Context thing or you just not sure what method to use and when to use it to get Context instance?
Nov 18 16:31:03 <johnflux> okay from googling, context seems to be for memory garbage collection, right?
Nov 18 16:31:16 <johnflux> so that you can "attach" your classes to an activity
Nov 18 16:31:28 <johnflux> and they will be delete'd when the activity is destroyed
Nov 18 16:31:33 <johnflux> ... is that right?
Nov 18 16:31:56 <mezzer> Hey guys :) I'm searching for a way to change colorControlNormal style attr durring runtime, this is to change the color of the back and hamburger button between fragment transitions, if someone knows the way to do that, please hl me ! thanks
Nov 18 16:32:26 <AlexBerdnikov> johnflux, here's a brief explanation http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3572463/what-is-context-in-android
Nov 18 16:33:23 <aaearon> am i correct in understanding there is not a need to use a content provider if your app data is only ever going to stay inside your app?
Nov 18 16:33:51 <AlexBerdnikov> johnflux, also, I suggest you reading official docs about Context object
Nov 18 16:36:44 <Mavrik> aaearon, yes.
Nov 18 16:36:49 <Mavrik> it does make some things better though
Nov 18 16:46:20 <osxorgate> how to properly set Volley's retry count to 0? I call setRetryPolicy(new DefaultRetryPolicy(request.readTimeout, 0, 1)); but i still see multiple calls on the network
Nov 18 16:48:11 <gordon_> JakeWharton: does retrofit work without problems with espresso ?
Nov 18 16:48:43 <JakeWharton> It shoukd
Nov 18 16:48:49 <JakeWharton> They're not related at all
Nov 18 16:49:13 <gordon_> afaik espresso waits for main thread / asynctasks
Nov 18 16:49:28 <gordon_> didnt check how retrofit works
Nov 18 16:52:48 <Teeed> re
Nov 18 16:54:01 <Memorion> I want to start an activity from the background and on finish() return to wherever the user was previously, which flags do I have to use? ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK | ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TASK works everywhere but if one of my activities was open it gets killed too
Nov 18 16:55:18 <narekb> Hey folks, anyone doing development on a Huawei device?
Nov 18 16:56:15 <danijoo> Memorion: no flag at all
Nov 18 16:56:39 <danijoo> what you descripe is the default flagless behaviour
Nov 18 16:57:23 <Memorion> danijoo but then I get "android.util.AndroidRuntimeException: Calling startActivity() from outside of an Activity  context requires the FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK flag."
Nov 18 16:57:46 <danijoo> and whats the prob with using this?
Nov 18 16:58:08 <Teeed> JesusFreke: I have still this issue, even I am using now code that is very similar to https://code.google.com/p/mover-bot/source/browse/trunk/Android-1.0/src/com/agentx3r/lib/USBControl.java
Nov 18 16:58:16 <Teeed> (with GC)
Nov 18 16:58:52 <Memorion> after I call finish() I always go back into my other activity, not to what I did previously
Nov 18 16:59:07 <Teeed> https://gist.github.com/Teeed/28a5dfaf0fa690e1ae88
Nov 18 16:59:10 <danijoo> You said you do it from background, not from your activity..
Nov 18 17:00:13 <Memorion> yes, a broadcastlistener from a service launches my activity, I have to set NEW_TASK and if I finish that activity I still get back to the activity that startet the service once, now matter what I did inbetween
Nov 18 17:01:40 <pfn> god, I hate checkedtextview... how is the logic behind isChecked() so fucked up
Nov 18 17:02:11 <danijoo> isnt that expected? You are in activity A, service starts activity B in new task, you call finish() on B, B gets destroyed, new task is empty, A gets shown
Nov 18 17:05:15 <Memorion> well, I'm new to android dev and it's now what I want, I want: A starts the service, I use my phone how I want, the broadcastlistener within the service gets triggered and starts B, I dismiss B and go back to wherever I was bevor B was started
Nov 18 17:05:18 <danijoo> Anyone here working with crashlytics?
Nov 18 17:05:45 <danijoo> Memorion: thats what should happen, yes.
Nov 18 17:05:58 <lagann> hey i want to know your guys' opinion
Nov 18 17:06:05 <lagann> our build has too many methods for the normal build
Nov 18 17:06:15 <lagann> if you run proguard it is fine
Nov 18 17:06:20 <lagann> which we do for release
Nov 18 17:06:28 <lagann> but for the debug build i want to know
Nov 18 17:06:44 <Memorion> but finishing B always gets me to A (if A wasn't destroyed by the system) no matter what I do between A and B
Nov 18 17:06:47 <lagann> do you think it's better to use multidex or proguard for the debug build ?
Nov 18 17:07:41 <danijoo> lagann:  I think multidex might be faster to build
Nov 18 17:07:54 <danijoo> which might be the most important thing for debug versions
Nov 18 17:08:31 <lagann> okay. it was odd though because when i use multidex it looks like it's running proguard
Nov 18 17:10:06 <danijoo> lagann: never used it. but shouldnt multidex create multiple dex files while proguard filters unused methods out?
Nov 18 17:10:58 <lagann> yeah, that's what i thought. but when i enable multidex it has proguard output
Nov 18 17:11:08 <lagann> i'm guessing they run some kind of proguard to shrink it before multidexing it?
Nov 18 17:11:16 <perlsyntax> Anyone know what this mean
Nov 18 17:11:18 <lagann> in which case i don't even see the point of multidex at all in my case
Nov 18 17:11:21 <perlsyntax> Errors occurred during the build.
Nov 18 17:11:21 <perlsyntax> Errors running builder 'Android Resource Manager' on project 'Scanboy'.
Nov 18 17:11:21 <perlsyntax> java.lang.NullPointerException
Nov 18 17:11:38 <perlsyntax> Not sure what it means.
Nov 18 17:12:00 <hosomy> i want to remove turn off screen on phone calls
Nov 18 17:12:08 <perlsyntax> I get that error in eclipse.
Nov 18 17:12:43 <hosomy> someone knows the class where can i find it
Nov 18 17:12:54 <squirrel> i have an application that connects to some server. i want to send certain data periodically. i'd use a handler to schedule periodic sends, but the system can sleep. on the other hand, alarm receiver seems to not have access to the running application. what should i use? or am i wrong about the alarm manager thing?
Nov 18 17:13:48 <perlsyntax> Anyone?
Nov 18 17:14:32 <perlsyntax> I take no one use eclipse.
Nov 18 17:14:51 <squirrel> i don't
Nov 18 17:15:20 <danijoo> squirrel: you should live with not being able to make it 100% periodically
Nov 18 17:15:46 <danijoo> you should respect phones idle states
Nov 18 17:15:49 <perlsyntax> that alot of help.I find out by myself.
Nov 18 17:15:53 <squirrel> danijoo: that's fine, but i must run that while device sleeps
Nov 18 17:16:28 <squirrel> using hangler means the synchronisation might get delayed for hours
Nov 18 17:16:28 <Teeed> welll... I am still fighting with Andorid Accessory ;) Garbage Collector gets my File descriptor somehow...
Nov 18 17:16:38 <Teeed> so everything is running okay, until GS runs :D
Nov 18 17:16:45 <Teeed> GC* https://gist.github.com/Teeed/38e28c24359f9ffb508e
Nov 18 17:17:01 <mihalybak> Hi, So I'm working in a big old app. When I view the application i portait mode the Spinner widget has different look then it does in Landscape mode. How/where would you generally set this? the problem is manly in portait mode, the spinner looks like it is from android 2.*
Nov 18 17:17:27 <Teeed> i tried reconnecting to accessory, but it does not work :<
Nov 18 17:18:37 <Teeed> ANY idea? I am kind of desperate right now :D
Nov 18 17:19:56 <pieces029> Anyone know if you are using okttp w/ picasso if there is a default disk cache enabled (it doesn't look like there is). If not should I place the disk cache on okhttp or picasso? I'm guessing okhttp.
Nov 18 17:20:13 <JakeWharton> it will install one, yes
Nov 18 17:20:39 <pieces029> Automagically w/ 50mb?
Nov 18 17:33:29 <Teeed> :<
Nov 18 17:40:40 <belComrade> is robospice a silver-bullet for background tasks in android? can someone give some disadvantages of this library,or  an examples of when better not use it?
Nov 18 17:43:23 <belComrade> i just catch myself, what when i need do some network stuff, i always choose robospice. (i am novice in android dev)
Nov 18 17:43:43 <danijoo> belComrade: querying a rest api?
Nov 18 17:43:55 <belComrade> yea
Nov 18 17:44:06 <danijoo> give retrofit a try :>
Nov 18 17:44:14 <pieces029> you can combine the too
Nov 18 17:44:14 <danijoo> you'll like it
Nov 18 17:44:27 <belComrade> already did
Nov 18 17:45:11 <belComrade> is retrofit can do calls async? without other libs
Nov 18 17:45:17 <JakeWharton> yes
Nov 18 17:46:24 <belComrade> ok, i will try it, thanks
Nov 18 17:46:48 <Memorion> I visualized my problem, maybe that makes things easier to understand danijoo http://i.imgur.com/VI8NEOm.png
Nov 18 17:51:24 <imtoss_android> Hello everyone! how´s everyone doing?
Nov 18 17:52:09 <ApplesInArrays> I just figured out that there's a debugger.
Nov 18 17:52:18 <ApplesInArrays> I don't know if that means I'll be asking more or fewer questions.
Nov 18 17:52:48 <imtoss_android> I have a question about developing android keyboards, have anyone in here develop an android keyboard?
Nov 18 17:55:45 <Chais> how do I get the assigned ipv6 address from the terminal?
Nov 18 17:55:49 <Chais> ip a won'
Nov 18 17:56:00 <Chais> ip a won't spit out anything /128
Nov 18 17:58:55 <Memorion> no one? the image was so much effort :( :D
Nov 18 17:59:52 <ApplesInArrays> oh that's pretty.
Nov 18 17:59:55 <Chais> why won't anyone tell me I'm asking the wrong questions?
Nov 18 18:00:01 <Chais> sorry ^^
Nov 18 18:04:27 <Zharf> sigh
Nov 18 18:04:40 <Zharf> seems like I can't seek past 2GB (in native) :E
Nov 18 18:05:13 <dcope> is there a good share library? trying to just add stuff like share to twitter / share to fb
Nov 18 18:09:48 <Mavrik> dcope, uh, create a share intent and start it?
Nov 18 18:10:18 <dcope> Mavrik: that requires knowing the bundle identifiers though right?
Nov 18 18:13:39 <danijoo> dcope: share intent is a standard edentifier and not app specific
Nov 18 18:14:04 <dcope> danijoo: yeah but then you get a bunch of crap like Drive, Email, Hangouts, etc.
Nov 18 18:14:08 <danijoo> its the one opening a dialog asking the user which app to use to share with dozens of entries
Nov 18 18:14:13 <dcope> i *just* want FB & Twitter
Nov 18 18:14:37 <danijoo> dcope: then use the twitter and fb library for that
Nov 18 18:14:40 <Mavrik> why?
Nov 18 18:15:07 <dcope> Mavrik: because showing a dialog with 15 options looks hideous
Nov 18 18:15:22 <Mavrik> limiting share targets goes against everything Android is build around
Nov 18 18:15:26 <imtoss_android> I have a question, i hope someone can help me. I need to develop a dynamic keyboard that changes his content with the data populated from an API. Is the android keyboard capable to handle this? Because I´ve created 2 "static" keyboards with his respective xml resource files. But i need to create a dynamic one.
Nov 18 18:15:35 <Mavrik> it'll just piss off your users when they won't be able to share data with apps because you're going out of your way to DISABLE functionality.
Nov 18 18:15:36 <Mavrik> don't.
Nov 18 18:18:00 <dcope> it's funny that Twitter shows at the bottom of the list
Nov 18 18:18:06 <dcope> when it's the one that will be used the most by users
Nov 18 18:18:41 <danijoo> dcope: use the libraries if you dont want to go the standard way
Nov 18 18:18:52 <Memorion> dcope I believe from L onward it's sorted by most used but I'm not sure
Nov 18 18:19:05 <dcope> Memorion: interesting.. that will be a welcomed feature
Nov 18 18:20:17 <danijoo> for Textappearance as style, is there an attribute for shadow?
Nov 18 18:20:39 <danijoo> I know theres shadowColor, radius, dx and dy, but I dont want to define them for every style i make individually
Nov 18 18:23:15 <matt_j> ugh
Nov 18 18:23:18 <matt_j> Eclipse is so buggy :(
Nov 18 18:23:26 <jaagr> Hi, is it possible to change the color of the heading divider line? (it's blue using Light theme)
Nov 18 18:23:41 <jaagr> *for ProgressDialog
Nov 18 18:25:20 <matt_j> My ADT has completely bugged up.
Nov 18 18:25:26 <matt_j> should I uninstall and re-install it?
Nov 18 18:25:28 <matt_j> maybe eclipse too?
Nov 18 18:26:25 <jaagr> matt_j: tried android studio?
Nov 18 18:27:55 <matt_j> Well, everyone else is using eclipse...
Nov 18 18:28:02 <gmg85> hi?
Nov 18 18:28:04 <thepoosh> who hasn't?
Nov 18 18:28:13 <gmg85> anyone here using GCM?
Nov 18 18:28:53 <jaagr> matt_j: is that a valid reason to stay with it?
Nov 18 18:29:04 <thepoosh> gmg85: is this a survey?
Nov 18 18:29:12 <thepoosh> what seems to be the issue?
Nov 18 18:31:44 <g00s> new support library
Nov 18 18:31:49 <gmg85> i am experiencing random delays with message delivery
Nov 18 18:32:01 <gmg85> Nope...this is not a survey :D
Nov 18 18:32:07 <thepoosh> g00s: anything good?
Nov 18 18:32:11 <danijoo> gmg85: are you doing lots of queries per device?
Nov 18 18:32:12 <g00s> no change notes, lame
Nov 18 18:32:30 <thepoosh> gmg85: there is no guaranty for delivery time in GCM
Nov 18 18:32:33 <thepoosh> lame!
Nov 18 18:32:34 <gmg85> danijoo: nope...
Nov 18 18:32:40 <danijoo> ^ this
Nov 18 18:32:46 <matt_j> jaagr: will it corrupt anything if I import it?
Nov 18 18:33:11 <thepoosh> matt_j: probably not, compat doesn't deprecate anything
Nov 18 18:33:12 <gmg85> thepoosh: is there a work around?
Nov 18 18:33:19 <thepoosh> gmg85: try oubnub
Nov 18 18:33:22 <thepoosh> pubnub
Nov 18 18:33:29 <g00s> thepoosh i'm guessing just bug fixes (21.0.2)
Nov 18 18:33:34 <thepoosh> hmmm
Nov 18 18:33:36 <thepoosh> crap
Nov 18 18:33:56 <thepoosh> waiting for material animations
Nov 18 18:34:01 <thepoosh> kinda hoping
Nov 18 18:34:17 <gmg85> thepoosh: what is oubnub?
Nov 18 18:34:24 <thepoosh> gmg85: pubnub
Nov 18 18:42:36 <imtoss_android> I have a question about keyboard development, have anyone before develop a Soft Keyboard?
Nov 18 18:42:43 <JesusFreke> yes, I have
Nov 18 18:42:54 <JesusFreke> although, I probably took a bit of a different route than most
Nov 18 18:43:11 <JesusFreke> I didn't really use much of the provided stuff, like KeyboardView or whatever it is. I just wrote a totally custom view
Nov 18 18:46:09 <impulse> what happened to <cutils/sockets.h> in the newer NDK's?
Nov 18 18:46:25 <ApplesInArrays> I've created my first flashlight app. Now I just have to figure out how to make it read contacts and messages then phone home.
Nov 18 18:47:06 <JesusFreke> you probably want to make it record stuff via the microphone and take some pictures, while you're at it
Nov 18 18:47:21 <JesusFreke> it's not a proper flashlight app otherwise
Nov 18 18:47:25 <danijoo> i'd buy it
Nov 18 18:48:14 <g00s> ApplesInArrays at least be the first to exploit this for great gain ! http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/17/lollipop-bug-leaving-the-flashlight-on-until-it-times-out-breaks-the-camera-and-flashlight-until-you-reboot/
Nov 18 18:48:20 <ApplesInArrays> I'll try to get those features in, but I'm trying to keep it under 12mB.
Nov 18 18:48:55 <danijoo> g00s: those lollpop bugs are hilarious
Nov 18 18:48:56 <danijoo> all of them
Nov 18 18:51:37 <Memorion> could someone tell me which flags to use to go from Activity B to X if I call finish() in B? http://i.imgur.com/VI8NEOm.png
Nov 18 18:51:45 <g00s> danijoo my favorite was the 4.0 one where december didn't show up in the date picker
Nov 18 18:52:08 <danijoo> who needs decembers
Nov 18 18:52:59 <g00s> the ones i find interesting, are the ones that demostrate testing didn't happen, or the test coverage was inaqeduate. there's always going to be bugs ...
Nov 18 18:53:01 <jaagr> matt_j: as thepoosh said, probably not. Go with it and try it out. Doubt you'll go back (unless you require some specific plugins)
Nov 18 18:53:18 <Memorion> (in the picture are the ones I tried and what they do)
Nov 18 18:53:29 <thepoosh> what?!
Nov 18 18:54:35 <imtoss_android> JesusFreke I´m trying to create a dynamic keyboard that changes his content after an API call. I´m trying to make a keyboard with #hastags
Nov 18 18:54:38 <thepoosh> danijoo: wake me up when december ends
Nov 18 18:54:43 <Memorion> thepoosh do you mean me?
Nov 18 18:54:44 <danijoo> Greenday
Nov 18 18:54:59 <thepoosh> you got the reference!
Nov 18 18:55:05 <danijoo> : >
Nov 18 18:55:11 <JesusFreke> imtoss_android: well, if you're using the built-in KeyboardView stuff, I won't be much help :)
Nov 18 18:55:26 <Tacticalmind> in Xamarin, to import an sdk like Facebook sdk, does that just require adding the component? or is there something more that needs done??/
Nov 18 18:56:04 <imtoss_android> JesusFreke Im not sure if SKD allows to create a keyboard dynamically, with no xml resource. Do you know something about it?
Nov 18 18:56:36 <imtoss_android> JesusFreke because initially the constructor method needs a resourceID to create a initial keyboard.. and thats what is limitating me
Nov 18 18:56:43 <JesusFreke> imtoss_android: SKD?
Nov 18 18:56:48 <JesusFreke> oh, SDK?
Nov 18 18:56:57 <JesusFreke> yes, you can use any View subclass
Nov 18 18:57:19 <Tacticalmind> any xamarin users here?
Nov 18 18:57:21 <JesusFreke> so you can theoretically do anything you want, within the realm of what is possible in a View
Nov 18 19:01:19 <g00s> Tacticalmind == tacticaljoke ?
Nov 18 19:02:38 <imtoss_android> JesusFreke So theoretically I could put a View subclass object into the keyboard. Creating a Button for each hashtag. I´ve just haven´t seen anything like that before, even in Google Play Keyboards, all of them are made with XML resources.. so that´s why i have my doubts about it this is capable to do...
Nov 18 19:02:44 <JesusFreke> so what you're saying is his mind is a joke? :)
Nov 18 19:02:51 <impulse> what happened to <cutils/sockets.h> in the newer NDK's?
Nov 18 19:03:01 <JesusFreke> imtoss_android: it's definitely possible, I've done it :)
Nov 18 19:03:19 <JesusFreke> although in my case, I just had one view, which handled all the buttons itself
Nov 18 19:03:34 <JesusFreke> or actually.. hmm. I think I might have had subviews for buttons. I can't recall
Nov 18 19:03:40 <JesusFreke> but yeah, it's definitely possible
Nov 18 19:03:52 <ApplesInArrays> I can't wait until I figure out why I keep passing (View v) to all my functions.
Nov 18 19:04:08 <JesusFreke> You just return your custom view from http://developer.android.com/reference/android/inputmethodservice/InputMethodService.html#onCreateInputView()
Nov 18 19:04:44 <JesusFreke> my keyboard thing was just a private experiment, so I don't have any open source example code for you to look at, sorry :)
Nov 18 19:07:44 <Tacticalmind> no g00s we're different people
Nov 18 19:08:11 <imtoss_android> JesusFreke thank you very much for your time, I´ve spend 2 days in this, now i´m going to try this. I hope i can do that without xml.
Nov 18 19:08:38 <imtoss_android> JesusFreke my best regards! and again thanks for your time :D
Nov 18 19:08:49 <JesusFreke> np :)
Nov 18 19:09:43 <Memorion> I fixed my flags by using FLAG_ACTIVITY_MULTIPLE_TASK but the docs say "When used with FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK do not use this flag unless you are implementing your own top-level application launcher." but it works perfectly for my purposes, what now?
Nov 18 19:10:36 <Trioxin> If you use Xamarin to dev your apps please join us on our new channel #Xamarin :)
Nov 18 19:13:37 <pangelovski> Hi guys, I have searched on google for adding an image to my activity but there are so confusing answers. What I want to achieve is to add a full screen image acting as a splash screen. Now I want to support mdpi, hdpi, xhdpi and xxhdi but i am not sure about the image sizes. all help is appreciated
Nov 18 19:17:51 <Estel> Is it a regression that inputType="textPersonName" doesn't capitalize the first letter on Lollipop? Or is it just the new stock keyboard
Nov 18 19:23:36 <g00s> is there a better place to get support library changes than http://developer.android.com/tools/support-library/index.html
Nov 18 19:23:48 <g00s> they dont seem to list the bugs being fixed in x.x.1 releases
Nov 18 19:25:18 <nubnub> i see that bluetooth low energy was integrated into android 4.3. was there any sort of BTE available to android before that?
Nov 18 19:27:46 <JesusFreke> nubnub: I think various OEMs might have added custom support for it or something
Nov 18 19:28:01 <JesusFreke> like, added their own apis, before it was officially available
Nov 18 19:28:12 <JesusFreke> not sure of the details though
Nov 18 19:28:17 <nubnub> JesusFreke: ahh, ok, thanks
Nov 18 19:29:47 <diphtherial> hello, gentle devs
Nov 18 19:29:58 <diphtherial> is there an advantage to using android studio over intellij idea?
Nov 18 19:30:13 <Mavrik> it gets features a little bit faster
Nov 18 19:30:16 <diphtherial> i'm going to attempt to write an app after a long hiatus, and i'm just looking for a fast way to get up and running
Nov 18 19:30:21 <diphtherial> ah, good point
Nov 18 19:30:25 <gmg85> yup...android studio is built for android dev so it has more features
Nov 18 19:30:30 <danijoo> you cant say that you are one of the cool kids then
Nov 18 19:31:34 <funktronic> odd.. Robolectric.shadowOf((ListView)listView); complains about  class file for android.support.v4.widget.DrawerLayout not found. any ideas?
Nov 18 19:37:09 <ApplesInArrays> R cannot be resolved happens when I open a new project using Google API without writing anything.
Nov 18 19:39:12 <ApplesInArrays> Java Build Path = Google Apis, src, gen, Android Private Libraries, Android Dependencies.
Nov 18 19:43:01 <ApplesInArrays> actually, I always get this error if I build with an API that isn't Android 21. What should I loko into?
Nov 18 19:46:25 <rivenet> i guess its caused by the version of appcompat
Nov 18 19:46:32 <danijoo> think so too
Nov 18 19:46:38 <ApplesInArrays> android.support.v7.app.ActionBarActivity;
Nov 18 19:46:38 <danijoo> why dont u want to build with 21?
Nov 18 19:46:50 <ApplesInArrays> I can't build with googleAPI
Nov 18 19:46:54 <ApplesInArrays> only Android 21.
Nov 18 19:47:16 <danijoo> as minVersion or buildVersion?
Nov 18 19:47:17 <ApplesInArrays> I basically can't follow any tutorials because of this problem.
Nov 18 19:47:19 <ApplesInArrays> build
Nov 18 19:47:28 <danijoo> why not build with 21?
Nov 18 19:47:30 <ApplesInArrays> only build gives GoogleAPI option.
Nov 18 19:47:39 <ApplesInArrays> because I want to build with GoogleAPI21.
Nov 18 19:48:18 <ApplesInArrays> I'd rather not ignore all the symptoms and just limit everything
Nov 18 19:49:32 <ApplesInArrays> only have BuildConfig.java in gen
Nov 18 19:51:57 <ApplesInArrays> R.java isn't being generated at all
Nov 18 19:52:10 <ApplesInArrays> don't have import android.R anywhere
Nov 18 19:52:13 <danijoo> Dont know much about the ADT build system sry
Nov 18 20:01:52 <Trioxin> If you use Xamarin to dev your apps please join us on our new channel #Xamarin :)
Nov 18 20:02:05 <ApplesInArrays> lol
Nov 18 20:12:53 <shekibobo> in gson, if I have a serialized object that contains other serialized objects... why might the properties of the nested serialized object not be getting set?
Nov 18 20:13:10 <shekibobo> when deserializing from json^^
Nov 18 20:13:31 <shekibobo> top-level object's properties are getting set just fine
Nov 18 20:15:27 <shekibobo> and the nested object assigned is the correct type, not null
Nov 18 20:17:46 <ApplesInArrays> so if this ADT issue is crippling development, should I just move onto another environment or something?
Nov 18 20:18:05 <g00s> you guys notice api 21 samples are there ?
Nov 18 20:18:06 <danijoo> what issue?
Nov 18 20:18:33 <ApplesInArrays> I can only build with Android21. Nothing else can generate R.java
Nov 18 20:18:55 <danijoo> ApplesInArrays: thats not an ADT issue. Its a problem with your setup
Nov 18 20:20:15 <ApplesInArrays> So I guess delete eclipse, ADT and start over?
Nov 18 20:20:40 <danijoo> no, fix your settings. thats what i mean with setup
Nov 18 20:21:40 <ApplesInArrays> What kind of settings?
Nov 18 20:21:45 <g00s> ApplesInArrays time to reinstall your operating system !
Nov 18 20:21:49 <_Auron_> lol
Nov 18 20:22:00 <ApplesInArrays> I'm going to get another machine this week
Nov 18 20:22:15 <danijoo> ApplesInArrays: no idea because i didnt use eclipse for long time. but ths is not an ide issue, its a setting issue
Nov 18 20:22:56 <danijoo> nothing wrong with trying a different ide though ;)
Nov 18 20:23:00 <ApplesInArrays> It's cheaper to buy a new machine and hope for the best on a fresh install than to spend a week troubleshooting.
Nov 18 20:23:15 <ApplesInArrays> The problem is ,then I have to find tutorials specific to another environment... again
Nov 18 20:23:54 <danijoo> you must earn a lot if troubleshooting is more expensive then new machines.
Nov 18 20:24:13 <danijoo> or you are developing on gameboys
Nov 18 20:24:15 <_Auron_> ApplesInArrays: try going through these steps: http://stackoverflow.com/a/15761439
Nov 18 20:24:21 <ApplesInArrays> a week is worth more than $500
Nov 18 20:24:42 <danijoo> so its gameboys..
Nov 18 20:24:43 <ApplesInArrays> _Auron_: I just went through the list in the past 30 minutes
Nov 18 20:25:15 <danijoo> thing is. if you need new machines for every misconfigured ide, youll need a lot..
Nov 18 20:25:19 <_Auron_> if R is not generating you're doing something wrong. that has -always- been the case in the past with me, whether an XML screwup or target issues
Nov 18 20:25:38 <ApplesInArrays> It's with a clean project without a line changed.
Nov 18 20:26:49 <freeone3000> `adb devices` isn't showing my Nexus 7 running Lollipop. I've updated the Google USB Drivers for windows, but I don't see any way to put the device into PTP mode. Any suggestions on how to get it to show up?
Nov 18 20:27:26 <JesusFreke> freeone3000: have you enabled usb debugging?
Nov 18 20:27:35 <freeone3000> JesusFreke: Yes, under developer options.
Nov 18 20:27:48 <_Auron_> try unplugging, then doing adb kill-server and then adb start-server. adb gets wonky sometimes
Nov 18 20:27:54 <Mavrik> freeone3000, settings -> storage -> menu
Nov 18 20:27:58 <Mavrik> will let you switch to PTP
Nov 18 20:29:35 <freeone3000> Switched it to PTP, no change. Unplugged device, ran `adb kill-server`, ran `adb start-server`, plugged device back in, `adb devices` still shows nothing.
Nov 18 20:29:52 <ApplesInArrays> don't need a machine for each IDE, but uninstalling and having stuff left over is a pita
Nov 18 20:30:56 <danijoo> good luck on developing like this
Nov 18 20:31:11 <_Auron_> no kidding.
Nov 18 20:31:17 <ApplesInArrays> Any other suggestions?
Nov 18 20:31:26 <ApplesInArrays> I know you keep saying I need to fix `the` setting
Nov 18 20:31:28 <danijoo> yes. fix your settngs ^^
Nov 18 20:31:49 <g00s> not the settings, The settings
Nov 18 20:32:02 <ApplesInArrays> Oh, I just have to fix the problem.
Nov 18 20:32:05 <ApplesInArrays> Now I got it ;)
Nov 18 20:32:08 <g00s> yes
Nov 18 20:32:16 <ApplesInArrays> Why didn't you just say that the first time.
Nov 18 20:32:55 <danijoo> ApplesInArrays: you didnt even post a single line of code or screenshot. how should we help you?
Nov 18 20:34:07 <ApplesInArrays> Should I post a blank android application up?
Nov 18 20:34:37 <freeone3000> Any additional information I can give you all to help solve this problem?
Nov 18 20:34:57 <danijoo> well. i give up on helpng you ApplesInArrays. You dont want to understand i think
Nov 18 20:35:05 <ApplesInArrays> I'm asking what I could do.
Nov 18 20:35:45 <g00s> ApplesInArrays http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Nov 18 20:35:54 <ApplesInArrays> Yes, I refer people to that all the time.
Nov 18 20:35:55 <shmooz> ApplesInArrays: paste your code at pastebin
Nov 18 20:36:31 <ApplesInArrays> The smart answer I keep on getting is the `settings`.
Nov 18 20:36:34 <danijoo> ApplesInArrays: your ide gives you an error right?
Nov 18 20:36:38 <ApplesInArrays> No error.
Nov 18 20:36:58 <danijoo> what else
Nov 18 20:37:30 <ApplesInArrays> Right.
Nov 18 20:37:33 <ApplesInArrays> Right, no error.
Nov 18 20:37:50 <danijoo> how you know its not working then? ^^
Nov 18 20:37:57 <ApplesInArrays> There is no R.java in gen.
Nov 18 20:38:15 <danijoo> its only there after you build a project
Nov 18 20:38:23 <danijoo> because its generated while building
Nov 18 20:38:24 <ApplesInArrays> I have built the project.
Nov 18 20:38:41 <skrite> hey all, in this code http://pastie.org/9728603 line 71 gives me an error about getContext() not being defined for this class? how else can i get the context?
Nov 18 20:39:09 <danijoo> if you build it and it does not generate R, it shows an error and stops
Nov 18 20:39:36 <freeone3000> skrite: You must pass in a Context.
Nov 18 20:39:50 <skrite> i see. Ok, thanks
Nov 18 20:39:54 <JesusFreke> skrite: you can't just randomly call "getContext()". it's not some magical global method that's defined everywhere :)
Nov 18 20:40:29 <skrite> I have read about the Context, just seems kinda abstract to me so far.
Nov 18 20:40:32 <skrite> thanks
Nov 18 20:43:32 <g00s> i was expecting more from the Samples. ApiDemos has roughly 15 examples of how to use listvie win a bunch of diffirent circumstances
Nov 18 20:43:44 <g00s> the new one has 1 example of Recyclerview, even though its more flexible
Nov 18 20:43:57 <g00s> and it doesn't do anything but show a list of stuff  - basically the same shit as the javadoc
Nov 18 20:44:10 <g00s> google just doesn't give a shit any more
Nov 18 20:45:14 <g00s> i keep reading this give of effort in many areas as "doing the minimum until we scrap all this java shit"
Nov 18 20:45:34 <g00s> s/give/lack
Nov 18 20:46:10 <g00s> either thats, or its 'we're just doing the minimum because the guys at Fb will figure it out, doesn't matter if the rest of you will'
Nov 18 20:55:06 <rohan> is LinearLayout better in terms of performance than RelativeLayout? (all other things being the same)
Nov 18 20:55:18 * flan3002 is puzzled by rohans cloack.
Nov 18 20:55:50 <rohan> flan3002: why so? :)
Nov 18 20:56:45 <flan3002> rohan: So, /did/ you profile?
Nov 18 20:56:57 <rohan> flan3002: i did, yes
Nov 18 20:57:19 <rohan> I am seeing a lot of performTraversals and measure
Nov 18 20:57:23 <rohan> in sys trace
Nov 18 20:58:29 <capella> g00s: in intelliJ I observe the current cursor/line is slightly shadowed indicating position ... have you spotted a pref to turn that off?
Nov 18 20:58:43 <flan3002> rohan: You could use DDMS for layout profiling.
Nov 18 21:00:30 <g00s> capella it would be under appearance -> editors -> colors & fonts if there were
Nov 18 21:00:59 <capella> colors .... mmm ... I glanced over that ... lemme check again
Nov 18 21:01:25 <g00s> i see 'caret row'
Nov 18 21:02:13 <g00s> under Editor -> Colors & Fonts -> General -> Caret row
Nov 18 21:03:23 <g00s> i like that thing, bit in darcula wish it was darker, not lighter, for more contrast
Nov 18 21:03:25 <capella> yep - got it too :D
Nov 18 21:03:36 <capella> thanks !
Nov 18 21:03:38 <g00s> don't care enough to change it ;)
Nov 18 21:04:23 <capella> when I highlight a block for copy pasta the shadow appears below the block confusing me as to what I'm selecting
Nov 18 21:05:11 <capella> since selecting 3 lines winds up with the cursor @ start of line 4
Nov 18 21:05:22 <capella> tiny thing ... meh
Nov 18 21:08:06 <ArcaneWater> Hey JakeWharton any idea why TImes Square lib works ok on my 4.4.4 device but on older like 2.3.3 calendars are not "scrollable" like they should be.
Nov 18 21:08:25 <freeone3000> Found my problem. Used a samsung cable instaed of a standard cable.
Nov 18 21:08:31 <rohan> flan3002: yes, but i seem to remember that relative layout required 2 passes for first measuring then laying out
Nov 18 21:08:38 <rohan> whereas linear layout avoided that
Nov 18 21:08:43 <g00s> freeone3000 wow, really? how would that effect things?
Nov 18 21:09:05 <flan3002> rohan: Well, what's your point then? Try using a LinearLayout and profile if it performs better. :P
Nov 18 21:09:09 <freeone3000> g00s: Samsung cables have two pins flipped which makes the USB not work.
Nov 18 21:09:18 <g00s> dafuq
Nov 18 21:09:41 <g00s> are the cables for charging only ?
Nov 18 21:09:49 <g00s> 'built in usb condom'
Nov 18 21:09:51 <freeone3000> g00s: The connector on the phone has the same pins flipped.
Nov 18 21:10:06 <freeone3000> g00s: Basically, it allows them to use the same form factor for charging, while being completely incompatible for data and HDMI.
Nov 18 21:15:10 <Teeed> re
Nov 18 21:26:43 <blusky> Hi ! I have a lot of asynctask, it's chained, and i'm fine with it. But there's one specific asynctask that need to be prioritized, and must not block others (in the other term, should be parralised or thread)
Nov 18 21:26:48 <blusky> can it be easily done ?
Nov 18 21:28:42 <bankai_au> rxjava
Nov 18 21:28:59 <freeone3000> blusky: Sure. You start a thread.
Nov 18 21:29:32 <g00s> blusky don't chain asynctasks, thats lamesauce
Nov 18 21:29:52 <g00s> ping-pong between threads is antipattern
Nov 18 21:33:01 <ApplesInArrays> holy crap
Nov 18 21:33:04 <ApplesInArrays> You meant console errors
Nov 18 21:33:16 <ApplesInArrays> I found errors in the console
Nov 18 21:33:25 <freeone3000> ApplesInArrays: Where did you expect to find them?
Nov 18 21:33:38 <ApplesInArrays> if there's an error in the file, then a red mark will appear over the icon
Nov 18 21:33:46 <Groxx> blusky: you might also want to look into Executors: http://developer.android.com/reference/java/util/concurrent/Executors.html you can also find priority-based executor sample code online, or just use a priority queue on an executor, if you want to go down that route.
Nov 18 21:34:38 <bankai_au> or rxjava ;)
Nov 18 21:34:45 <freeone3000> ApplesInArrays: No, that's what happens if your IDE detects an error.
Nov 18 21:35:36 <ApplesInArrays> Just telilng you where I expected to find them.
Nov 18 21:36:39 <mattblang> what is the best way to handle padding in a custom View class
Nov 18 21:40:58 <mattblang> for example, I am trying to create this huge profile page with different sections of items.  every item has a field name, and field value.  I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this.  was thinking about making creating custom View classes
Nov 18 21:53:52 <zambo> Does Android studio not have integration with Hierarchy Viewer/Pixel Perfect?
Nov 18 22:00:47 <freeone3000> zambo: No.
Nov 18 22:01:00 <freeone3000> (Also, you say that like it's a thing you expected. Why would it?)
Nov 18 22:01:41 <cph_dk> Anyone has any experience doing ARM assembly?
Nov 18 22:01:48 <orospakr> Hey, does elevation (or something else) transform the size of the view at all? material design seems to leverage perspective a fair bit, and I'm trying to determine if I'm responsible for that myself and need to be transforming the size of my views in my animations independently of elevation or z.
Nov 18 22:09:56 <freeone3000> `adb install myapp.apk` seems to hang. There's no progress message, no error message, no termination, and no changes on device. What should I try to get more information about what it's doing?
Nov 18 22:10:46 <mattblang> how can I create custom view objects that set padding based on a dimen value?
Nov 18 22:19:41 <Matip> Hellllo
Nov 18 22:19:56 <Matip> how do you restore the state of a webview? I have one that is loading some images from URLs
Nov 18 22:20:19 <Matip> so when I do scrollbar.setScrollY(position) it doesn't work since the images are still not loaded
Nov 18 22:28:12 <matt_j> So, question
Nov 18 22:28:28 <matt_j> I've been trying to import the eclipse project into Android Studio
Nov 18 22:28:41 <matt_j> but it seems to want to copy and re-structure the project
Nov 18 22:28:57 <matt_j> which would make it difficult to collaborate with those still using eclipse, right?
Nov 18 22:30:52 <mattblang> matt_j good point.  why is whoever still on Eclipse (is it a github project or something?)
Nov 18 22:31:35 <matt_j> Don't ask me to explain the actions of an offshore house that never bothered to use Fragments
Nov 18 22:32:08 <mattblang> haha
Nov 18 22:32:28 <dragorn> matt_j: you can, w/ careful gradle massaging, maintain the same structure between them
Nov 18 22:32:38 <dragorn> matt_j: but you'll definitely get some weirdness over time I'm sure
Nov 18 22:33:04 <matt_j> eah
Nov 18 22:33:05 <matt_j> Yeah*
Nov 18 22:33:14 <matt_j> I will stick with Eclipse for now. Oh, other question
Nov 18 22:33:25 <matt_j> When I was trying to import the project, it didn't actually create a Gradle project
Nov 18 22:33:38 <dragorn> i'm sure you could make it work but I bet you'd have more trouble than you want
Nov 18 22:33:43 <matt_j> it was using the other build system, and instead popped up a box say "Migrate to Gradle?"
Nov 18 22:33:44 <dragorn> i haven't had eclipse import work in a while
Nov 18 22:33:55 <dragorn> I just restructure the few things I encounter
Nov 18 22:34:00 <matt_j> but there was no button to actually migrate
Nov 18 22:34:04 <dragorn> dunno if it's broken or if I forgot how to use it
Nov 18 22:34:17 <LordNed> Hey all, I'm catching the ACTION_VOICE_COMMAND intent and want to have it execute a one-off task when that intent is fired (doing some TTS with pre-set strings). There is no UI and no need for it to take focus from other apps - is a service the right use for this, or should it be an activity?
Nov 18 22:36:49 <Matip> is there a way to avoid a WebView to reaload the page when the user change the orientation of the phone?
Nov 18 22:38:50 <LordNed> Actually it looks like "IntentService" is up my alley.
Nov 18 22:39:41 <LordNed> Though I'm not sure how the ACTION_VOICE_COMMAND intent is fired (ie: if I can even catch it as a service?)
Nov 18 22:56:49 <freeone3000> I'm trying `adb install -r myapp.apk` and I'm getting "protocol error" after about five minutes. `adb shell` works. Why can't I transfer files to my device?
Nov 18 22:59:19 <g00s> freeone3000 are you sure you have the latest sdk / etc ?
Nov 18 22:59:39 <g00s> sdk platform-tools, etc
Nov 18 23:04:46 <freeone3000> g00s: Yep, updated today. Current version of platform-tools is 21, current version of sdk tools is 23.0.5
Nov 18 23:05:48 <freeone3000> g00s: `adb version` gives 1.0.32, run from C:\android-sdk\platform-tools.
Nov 18 23:06:04 <g00s> freeone3000 if adb shell works, does 'install from untrausted sources' enabled ?
Nov 18 23:06:21 <g00s> whatever its called
Nov 18 23:07:03 <freeone3000> Yes, it's enabled.
Nov 18 23:07:28 <freeone3000> I'd install with adb push, but there I get "error: protocol fault (no status)"
Nov 18 23:08:02 <g00s> oh weird, i have 'unknown sources' disabled
Nov 18 23:08:29 <g00s> and presumably you have developer options enabled, etc
Nov 18 23:08:39 <freeone3000> g00s: Yes, USB debugging, whole thing.
Nov 18 23:09:01 <freeone3000> This is the first time this computer has worked with an android lollipop tablet, however.
Nov 18 23:09:55 * g00s isn't upgrading for a while
Nov 18 23:10:55 <pfn> lollipop broke my keyguard manager  :(
Nov 18 23:10:59 <freeone3000> However, other people are, and our app needs to support it. There's apparently an issue with X509TrustStore and how we're overriding it to provide a custom JKS file, but it's nigh-impossible to debug blind.
Nov 18 23:11:11 <freeone3000> So I need to push my app to the device.
Nov 18 23:11:29 <pfn> freeone3000, usually when that happens, it's because the usb cable is starting to eat shit
Nov 18 23:11:35 <pfn> cable and/or connectors
Nov 18 23:11:45 <freeone3000> pfn: I'll see if I can borrow someone else's.
Nov 18 23:12:26 <g00s> freeone3000 you can test that on the emu though
Nov 18 23:12:38 <g00s> (X509TrustStore)
Nov 18 23:13:47 <freeone3000> g00s: My computer refuses to run the emulator at anything approaching a reasonable speed.
Nov 18 23:19:24 <freeone3000> Shi ha yao shu chinese crap. Thanks.
Nov 18 23:19:34 <freeone3000> It was, indeed, the cable. Again.
Nov 18 23:20:28 <smart_ptr> hi
Nov 18 23:20:37 <smart_ptr> i have a plan for an android app; the "basic" structure needs to be much like the google play store
Nov 18 23:20:43 <smart_ptr> is there a template for that?
Nov 18 23:20:53 <smart_ptr> (navigation drawer + swipable tabs)
Nov 18 23:21:05 <smart_ptr> (maybe android 5 conform)
Nov 18 23:22:06 <Thorbear> Have you tried pressing "new project" in Android Studio?
Nov 18 23:22:33 <felgenh3> is this channel for beginners? or is there a different one for beginners?
Nov 18 23:22:55 <capella-s3> freshhhh meat....
Nov 18 23:23:05 <Thorbear> There are templates there for both those things, although you might have to combine the two yourself.
Nov 18 23:23:21 <Thorbear> felgenh3: no different channels for beginners
Nov 18 23:23:28 <felgenh3> k thanks
Nov 18 23:24:44 <Thorbear> Although some questions might make people just direct you to the docs, since people don't want to explain page 1 of the official docs to every new person ;)
Nov 18 23:25:10 <g00s> Thorbear how do i pass data from one activity to another ?
Nov 18 23:25:24 <Thorbear> You already know that =D
Nov 18 23:25:35 <felgenh3> totally makes sense, I was just wondering. I heard one of my friends is looking to be an android developer
Nov 18 23:28:31 <g00s> oh yeah, a snoopy movie ... with the red baron
Nov 18 23:33:23 <smart_ptr> Thorbear: yeah i hoped there'd be a combined one :/
Nov 18 23:40:15 <smart_ptr> well do you know a app with a similary layout which is open source? :D
Nov 18 23:40:46 <cph_dk> smart_ptr All my stuff is open source for anyone who bothers :D
Nov 18 23:41:02 <smart_ptr> do you have an app  with such a layout? :D
Nov 18 23:41:11 <cph_dk> smart_ptr Prob not.
Nov 18 23:41:35 <cph_dk> smart_ptr I have an 2d game class lib for android.
Nov 18 23:41:37 <cph_dk> a
Nov 18 23:41:55 <Thorn> hello
Nov 18 23:42:01 <Thorn> what thread does a GCM BroadcastReceiver run on?
Nov 18 23:42:45 <cph_dk> Try GetThreadIdByClassName()
Nov 18 23:44:41 <smart_ptr> yep, i'm looking for an activity supporting both; navigation drawer _and_ tabview
Nov 18 23:44:43 <smart_ptr> like that https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6559846/device-2014-11-19-004350.png
Nov 18 23:45:19 <Mavrik> Thorbear, documentation, This method is always called within the main thread of its process ...
Nov 18 23:45:23 <Mavrik> er
Nov 18 23:45:24 <Mavrik> Thorn,
Nov 18 23:47:14 <cph_dk> Has anyone in here ever used C/C++ code alongside Java in android apps?
Nov 18 23:47:15 <Thorn> indeed, thanks
Nov 18 23:51:45 <freeone3000> cph_dk: The NDK? Yes.
Nov 19 00:00:54 <vieu> hey guys is there a channel for beginner-beginners or
Nov 19 00:02:42 <bankai_au> didn't we just do this?
Nov 19 00:02:48 <alex__c2022> I’m doing a custom slide animation for fragment transaction that swaps 2 fragments. It works but there is some flash that happens, with the incoming fragment flashing for a brief moment before the animation kicks in. I’m using .replace(). Any ideas?
Nov 19 00:04:32 <indifferentalex> Hi, please have pity It's been a long day, just a quick question, why is my second http get request in my async task only working the first time and throwing an exception the second time?
Nov 19 00:04:54 <g00s> you can only use asynctask once
Nov 19 00:05:22 <g00s> "an asynctask once"
Nov 19 00:06:29 <indifferentalex> but it's my httprequest that's the problem, the first time it's getting a response without a problem, the second time it fails (but it doesn't on localhost!)
Nov 19 00:07:41 <tricknology> heeey httprequest? someone say?
Nov 19 00:08:01 <tricknology> better BasicResponseHandler: https://gist.github.com/znwabudike/0bc2342f7a584892f662
Nov 19 00:08:12 <indifferentalex> HttpClient execute* my bad!
Nov 19 00:08:31 <indifferentalex> hey trick, can I do two of those back-to-back?
Nov 19 00:10:44 <anoob> if an audio is playing, i want to stop it before play another one ... the method "stopIfPlaying" takes no effect ... http://pastebin.com/5W4kAnG9
Nov 19 00:11:56 <indifferentalex> nono that doesn't help me, I'll rephrase my question, and reapologize but you're my last home: I have a httpclient.execute(request) followed by another httpclient.execute(request), if I make them to localhost they both work fine, as soon as I change them to my servers ip the first one works fine but the second one dies
Nov 19 00:13:08 <Thorn> dies with what exception?
Nov 19 00:13:23 <bankai_au> show some code and/or ST
Nov 19 00:15:11 <indifferentalex> that's the thing I've got another problem where my emulator get's disconnected from eclipse as soon as I call a phone number (the http requests are in an async task that's in a service that starts in a broadcastreceiver) so I can't actually get the stack trace :(
Nov 19 00:15:30 <indifferentalex> is android development supposed to be this confusing or am I just incapable?
Nov 19 00:17:31 <bankai_au> this is where it helps to have proper unit tests
Nov 19 00:18:19 <Thorbear> Wait, an asynctask in a service? I think that sounds like your bug right there
Nov 19 00:21:52 <indifferentalex> absolutely, I've literally thrown every good practice out the window, this was supposed to be a basic prototype proof of concept and I've been stuck on this single part for the past 10+ hours pounding my head at it, I'm not ignorant just really foolish for thinking that I could just go in and try to get everything to work, I knew I risked this! Thank you thorbear! Should I just do them (the http requests) in the service
Nov 19 00:23:50 <Thorbear> You might want to read the documentation on AsyncTask, is specifies that it will only be possible to start from the main thread. When you further read on the documentation for Service, you'll find it says that a service never runs on the main thread.
Nov 19 00:24:39 <Thorbear> There is usually no reason to do async work in a service, since it doesn't interrupt the GUI in any way.
Nov 19 00:25:33 <whatitis> service doesnt run on ui?
Nov 19 00:25:49 <Thorbear> Pretty sure it doesn't
Nov 19 00:26:41 <Thorbear> "A Service is an application component that can perform long-running operations in the background and does not provide a user interface."
Nov 19 00:27:17 <bankai_au> service runs on the main, intentservice doesn't
Nov 19 00:27:57 <indifferentalex> mine's an intentservice but I started an asynctask from it without any problems (except my second httpclient execute failing)
Nov 19 00:34:00 <Thorbear> My point is still valid though, don't do async in a service. If your service was not an intentservice you should put it in its own thread yourself. The intentservice handles it for you, at the cost of only handling 1 thing at a time.
Nov 19 00:40:09 <Thorn> can I run syncadapter in the same process (unlike in the tutorial)? what are the disadvantages? I want to be able to use the LBM to signal progress/completion
Nov 19 00:41:11 <Thorn> (the syncadapter can be started by a GCM message at any time)
Nov 19 00:48:28 <Bitgod> what is  the correct (and easier) dev evironment to use?
Nov 19 00:48:30 <Bitgod> for 4.x?
Nov 19 00:49:01 <Bitgod> on a pc, and  i know android emulator is slow as crap so ill have to use a tablet or bluestacks heh
Nov 19 01:08:44 <TacticalJoke> Bitgod:  Are you talking about IDEs?
Nov 19 01:12:46 <Bitgod> well i know to use  Eclipse
Nov 19 01:13:03 <Bitgod> is android java coding harD?
Nov 19 01:13:21 <Bitgod> also
Nov 19 01:13:23 <Bitgod> Eclipse IDE for Java Developers, 154 MB
Nov 19 01:13:23 <Bitgod> Downloaded 2,004,452 Times
Nov 19 01:13:32 <Bitgod> i downloaded this, this ok?
Nov 19 01:19:40 <Bitgod> ok
Nov 19 01:28:08 <TacticalJoke> Bitgod:  Yes, that should be fine.
Nov 19 01:28:51 <TacticalJoke> Bitgod:  The Android people are making a new IDE called Android Studio.  This will be the IDE to use in future.  It's in beta right now, but some people prefer that to Eclipse.  (I'm not one of them.)
Nov 19 01:29:16 <TacticalJoke> Bitgod:  In my experience, Android Studio is way, way slower than Eclipse.  It also doesn't support something I need (JVM unit testing).
Nov 19 01:29:27 <TacticalJoke> Still, in future, this is where people are expected to move.
Nov 19 01:30:05 <TacticalJoke> Your experience may vary.
Nov 19 01:31:04 <AC-130U> yeah, for me android studio seems easier than eclipse
Nov 19 01:31:30 <AC-130U> im sure android studio will get better over time
Nov 19 01:31:37 <AC-130U> and include ndk and jvm unit testing
Nov 19 01:31:59 <TacticalJoke> I'd like to move once they implement JVM unit testing.  But, for now, Eclipse is just a better choice for me.
Nov 19 01:32:10 <TacticalJoke> Everything I need is simple and fast in Eclipse.
Nov 19 01:32:15 <TacticalJoke> (And available.  :D)
Nov 19 01:32:41 <TacticalJoke> Don't get me wrong: I'm not an Eclipse diehard.  It was so painful moving from Visual Studio (C#/.NET) to Eclipse (Java/Android).
Nov 19 01:32:47 <bankai_au> TacticalJoke: use IJ then, you can do your JVM tests with that
Nov 19 01:32:57 <TacticalJoke> bankai_au:  I think we can't do it with Gradle, though.
Nov 19 01:33:28 <TacticalJoke> But I guess we can with Maven.
Nov 19 01:33:49 <TacticalJoke> I did try IntelliJ with Gradle.  It was so slow.  (That may be Gradle, though.)
Nov 19 01:33:56 <TacticalJoke> I mean, typing was slow.  Just typing.
Nov 19 01:34:06 <TacticalJoke> I'd type a statement and about two seconds later the text would finally appear.
Nov 19 01:34:43 <TacticalJoke> I concluded that Gradle was a total memory hog and went back to Eclipse.
Nov 19 02:00:18 <indifferentalex> I printed the exception in a toast eclipse was disconnecting my emulator as soon as I started a phone call, I'm getting an "unknownhostexception" even though my emulator can access the internet and the ip just fine, I do have internet enabled in the app manifest
Nov 19 02:00:25 <indifferentalex> how can I debug this?
Nov 19 02:11:25 <JesusFreke> your app has to have the network permission to be able to access the internet
Nov 19 02:11:30 <JesusFreke> the internet permission*
Nov 19 02:19:42 <pippijn> hi
Nov 19 02:19:52 <pieces029> hi
Nov 19 02:20:35 <pippijn> I'm working on a java library project in android studio, which is used by an android application project
Nov 19 02:21:01 <pippijn> the library project uses resources in the java sense (with classloader, getResource)
Nov 19 02:22:14 <pippijn> I can see the resource files in the jar file, but running a test (e.g. junit) fails, because the resource can't be found
Nov 19 02:22:31 <pippijn> I see that the jar file is not on the classpath of the test invocation
Nov 19 02:30:57 <pippijn> how can I make sure the resources are found in tests?
Nov 19 02:30:59 <laspahr_mint17> hi all, just curious if I could get some help starting to code an app :)
Nov 19 02:31:22 <laspahr_mint17> (I've done this once before, but it was buggy/non-functioning, so I wanna try it again)\
Nov 19 02:32:27 <Nerotic> laspahr_mint17; Awesome! I suggest using the Android Studio software to begin working on your app :)
Nov 19 02:32:51 <laspahr_mint17> I can't, it won't let me :( old computer
Nov 19 02:33:09 <Nerotic> Try the App Inventor software.
Nov 19 02:33:13 <kot09> Hey guys
Nov 19 02:33:14 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  There are issues with running JVM unit tests in Android Studio/Gradle.  Not sure whether that's related to your problem, but I thought I'd mention it in case.
Nov 19 02:33:15 <Nerotic> http://appdevwiki.com/wiki/show/HomePage
Nov 19 02:33:22 <Nerotic> That link may help too.
Nov 19 02:33:29 <TacticalJoke> laspahr_mint17:  Eclipse is way faster here.
Nov 19 02:33:34 <pippijn> TacticalJoke: what issues?
Nov 19 02:33:38 <kot09> I'm trying to import the facebook sdk to my project. I have imported the SDK into my workspace, but still, can't add it as a library to my project. can someone help me out?
Nov 19 02:33:45 <Nerotic> TacticalJoke; Oh of course, forgot about that. Silly me.
Nov 19 02:33:51 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  I believe that Android Studio doesn't support JVM unit testing.
Nov 19 02:33:54 <laspahr_mint17> TacticalJoke: I have eclipse, just not sure if it's configured/set up yet
Nov 19 02:33:55 <TacticalJoke> Essentially.
Nov 19 02:33:59 <pippijn> :/
Nov 19 02:34:00 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  Though there are hacks around this.
Nov 19 02:34:06 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  I just use Eclipse.
Nov 19 02:34:18 <Nerotic> laspahr_min17; Try running it. Tell us what it says if it does not boot properly.
Nov 19 02:34:24 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  I'm not moving to AS till they allow JVM unit testing.
Nov 19 02:34:26 <laspahr_mint17> will do
Nov 19 02:34:35 <Nerotic> Good luck :)
Nov 19 02:34:48 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=65186
Nov 19 02:35:14 <Nerotic> laspahr_mint17; If you have not checked out http://d.android.com it WILL be very useful.
Nov 19 02:35:22 <pippijn> TacticalJoke: thanks
Nov 19 02:35:54 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  Some people have got JVM unit testing working in Android Studio (e.g., JakeWharton), but I've not tried these methods, personally.
Nov 19 02:36:11 <TacticalJoke> There's also a plugin (mentioned in that issue), but I'm not sure whether it's recommended.
Nov 19 02:36:33 <Nerotic> As TacticalJoke said: Use Eclipse.
Nov 19 02:37:23 <TacticalJoke> pippijn:  Having said all this, I don't know much about your issue, so this whole thing might or might not apply to your issue.
Nov 19 02:37:57 <Nerotic> pippijn; remember, a good google never hurts if none of us can help.
Nov 19 02:39:56 <ObrienDave> there's a good google? ;p
Nov 19 02:39:57 <pippijn> Nerotic: I've googled quite a lot before joining here
Nov 19 02:40:13 <Nerotic> ObrienDave; lmao you know what I mean.
Nov 19 02:40:18 <laspahr_mint17> alright, it booted up but won't let me select the sdk path, even though it's pointed to the correct location
Nov 19 02:40:30 <Nerotic> pippijn; Well hopefully, we can help.
Nov 19 02:40:37 <laspahr_mint17> then says my SDK tools are outdated (which I just updated them like an hour ago)
Nov 19 02:40:46 <Nerotic> laspahr_min17; Update it again.
Nov 19 02:41:23 <laspahr_mint17> just did, reloaded the page and I have the latest tools, platform tools, and build tools
Nov 19 02:41:26 <laspahr_mint17> :/
Nov 19 02:41:54 <Nerotic> Hm, I couldn't say why this is happening. Try installing it on another storage space.
Nov 19 02:42:07 <Nerotic> If you do not have another storage space, make a partition.
Nov 19 02:43:53 <laspahr_mint17> says it requires ADT to be the latest version but AFAIK it is
Nov 19 02:44:29 <Nerotic> That's weird. Uninstall and reinstall it.
Nov 19 02:45:15 <TacticalJoke> JakeWharton:  Is there a way, using OkHttp, to basically view the raw HTTP request and the raw HTTP response(s)?  I basically wanna packet-sniff my app the easy way, if I can.  :)
Nov 19 02:45:42 <laspahr_mint17> just delete the folder with everything in it and reinstall?
Nov 19 02:45:42 <TacticalJoke> JakeWharton:  Request.headers().toString() and Response.headers().toString() almost give me what I want.
Nov 19 02:46:40 <Nerotic> laspahr_mint17; I suggest so.
Nov 19 02:46:51 <laspahr_mint17> okay, one sec
Nov 19 02:47:08 <laspahr_mint17> yeah, it's outdated, it's from march
Nov 19 02:47:38 <Nerotic> Take your time.
Nov 19 02:52:21 <slobatch> hey Nerotic
Nov 19 02:52:25 <slobatch> i made it! :p
Nov 19 02:52:29 <laspahr_mint17> alright, all downloaded :) now to set it up again lol
Nov 19 02:53:17 <slobatch> long story long: I'm trying to gain root to my ADT-1 so that I can change the build.prop and finally cast to it with minimal problems.
Nov 19 02:53:33 <slobatch> trying to follow CF's method which he posted here:
Nov 19 02:53:34 <slobatch> https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/a5YshULM8hf
Nov 19 02:54:00 <slobatch> obviously, before I begin, I'd like to turn on USB debugging -- and to do that, I need to turn on developer options
Nov 19 02:54:03 <slobatch> basic stuff
Nov 19 02:54:23 <slobatch> i click on the build number in settings 7 times or whatever number it is
Nov 19 02:54:36 <slobatch> and it tells me i'm a developer (zomg i'm so kewl)
Nov 19 02:55:04 <slobatch> but there are no developer options / settings in settings
Nov 19 02:55:08 <slobatch> what am i missing?
Nov 19 02:55:24 <slobatch> i'm running LPD13X btw
Nov 19 02:55:35 <laspahr_mint17> ADT-1?
Nov 19 02:55:36 <slobatch> scratch that -- reverse it. LPX13D
Nov 19 02:55:42 <slobatch> laspahr_mint17: yeah
Nov 19 02:55:56 <laspahr_mint17> dumb question.. what's that?
Nov 19 02:56:03 <slobatch> laspahr_mint17: lol
Nov 19 02:56:15 <slobatch> it's the android TV ref device they provided at google IO
Nov 19 02:56:21 <laspahr_mint17> Oh!
Nov 19 02:56:41 <slobatch> full disclosure -- i did not attend I/O, but my CEO got sent one. and he didn't want anything to do with it
Nov 19 02:56:42 <slobatch> :D
Nov 19 02:56:54 <slobatch> bah
Nov 19 02:56:55 <slobatch> nvm
Nov 19 02:57:02 <slobatch> i exited settings and came back in
Nov 19 02:57:03 <laspahr_mint17> so it's not a legit Android TV, correct?
Nov 19 02:57:06 <Nerotic> Sorry, I am back laspahr_mint17
Nov 19 02:57:08 <slobatch> developer options appeared
Nov 19 02:57:12 <slobatch> laspahr_mint17: correct
Nov 19 02:57:18 <laspahr_mint17> Hehe no problem Nerotic
Nov 19 02:57:26 <laspahr_mint17> just setting up SDK again
Nov 19 02:57:33 <slobatch> laspahr_mint17: because of that, it's a pain to cast anything to it. trying to gain root to change the build prop
Nov 19 02:57:33 <Nerotic> Awesome :)
Nov 19 02:57:41 <slobatch> that should give me some more freedom
Nov 19 02:57:47 <Nerotic> slobatch, what is your problem again?
Nov 19 02:57:50 <laspahr_mint17> slobatch: so what exactly is it? like a tablet?
Nov 19 02:57:55 <slobatch> Nerotic: being an idiot :D
Nov 19 02:58:10 <Nerotic> slobatch; #brainfart
Nov 19 02:58:21 <slobatch> Nerotic: i solved the problem by exiting the settings app and then re-opening. #brainfart is right
Nov 19 02:58:27 <slobatch> laspahr_mint17: it's like a nexus player
Nov 19 02:58:35 <slobatch> but better designed, if you ask me
Nov 19 02:58:37 <laspahr_mint17> oh! I see :)
Nov 19 02:58:54 <laspahr_mint17> Nexus Players more attractive relative
Nov 19 02:59:56 <slobatch> i left my macbook at work today, so now I'm trying to gain root on my ADT-1 using an Acer C720 Chromebook. This will be quite and adventure.. o.O laspahr_mint17 Nerotic
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