**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 09 02:59:58 2015 Mar 09 03:00:22 nope, its just the android measuring system Mar 09 03:00:30 you could forgoe the relativelayout altogether Mar 09 03:00:44 forgo* Mar 09 03:00:48 desmin88: thank you. You nudged me in the right direction to find the right docs to figure this out. Works great :D Mar 09 03:00:55 CanyonMan: np man! Mar 09 03:01:23 The custom adapter is simpler than I looked. It looked complicated fro their examples. It's really not too bad Mar 09 03:01:41 closer, but not exactly there yet. I will screw around with it. Thanks! Mar 09 03:01:50 I need to get all this stuff into git before I screw something up bad though Mar 09 03:02:04 I wonder if I just do the VCS menu make git if it will be smart enough to not check in stupid stuff Mar 09 03:02:34 MikeWallaceDev, relative layout behavior in relation to wrap content has. changed over the versions of android Mar 09 03:03:27 pfn: oh rly? Mar 09 03:03:30 pfn, it still doesn't make sense that it would match parent when I tell it to wrap content Mar 09 03:04:14 Napalm, I can't recall which version but probably between gb and ics Mar 09 03:04:29 wrap content used to be completely broken with relative layout Mar 09 03:04:37 MikeWallaceDev: i thought it in relation to AT_MOST Mar 09 03:04:38 but me Mar 09 03:04:39 meh Mar 09 03:05:05 use AbsoluteLayout! Mar 09 03:05:13 lool Mar 09 03:05:20 I like using GridLayout Mar 09 03:05:21 takn, I tried, it didn't work correct Mar 09 03:05:22 :P Mar 09 03:05:43 oh, gridLayout, that might be better for what I'm doing now Mar 09 03:05:50 its completely underated, and if your doing APIv14/15+ then GridLayout is awesome Mar 09 03:05:51 dang, are you trolling my trolling? Mar 09 03:05:53 yep, I'll switch Mar 09 03:06:01 for the most control, put AbsoluteLayouts in your AbsoluteLayouts Mar 09 03:06:06 I am. takn Mar 09 03:06:15 Napalm, gridlayout is available as a compat lib Mar 09 03:06:15 metatroll. Mar 09 03:06:19 g00s: you read my mind Mar 09 03:06:27 pfn: true, but meh Mar 09 03:06:40 gridlayout-v7 Mar 09 03:06:55 i haven't bothered to check it. out Mar 09 03:17:44 yay, gitted up Mar 09 03:18:35 or not. commit failed, no such author chrisp? wtf Mar 09 03:19:24 oh yeah, i think there is an apple event tomorrow Mar 09 03:19:46 oh no Mar 09 03:19:49 that's the last thing we need Mar 09 03:20:28 they'll most likely talk about their watch Mar 09 03:21:03 maybe updated MBPs Mar 09 03:21:29 I don't think there's any "most likely" about it Mar 09 03:26:53 Hmm, so many options to choose from for a key-value store Mar 09 03:27:28 How big a database are you thinking you will need? Mar 09 03:27:47 arbritrarily sized Mar 09 03:28:00 but i mean like huge like megabytes of data, or more like preferences? Mar 09 03:28:24 its essentially just saved integers corresponding to id's of data Mar 09 03:28:28 and now, gridlayout is screwing with me... :-/ Mar 09 03:28:33 http://pastebin.com/wNFkDnV2 Mar 09 03:28:35 which means its variable, it can be just 1 or 100's depending on the user Mar 09 03:28:48 i am using import android.content.SharedPreferences; Mar 09 03:28:48 but Mar 09 03:28:53 http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_08854fd137100187c1c.png Mar 09 03:29:10 does anybody know why the buttons aren't centered? Mar 09 03:29:10 what kind of design are you following there Mar 09 03:29:17 I don't have enough android experience to really guide you except let me share one piece of experience that I have. Mar 09 03:29:29 I used to do a bunch of development for PalmOS for the Palm Pre if you remember what that is Mar 09 03:29:48 That's what they used in the Flintstones, right? Mar 09 03:29:49 and the tendency there was that every app (very close to every app anyway, vast majority) had its own dedicated sqlite for that app Mar 09 03:29:51 :D Mar 09 03:30:04 as a developer/hacker I really appreciated that Mar 09 03:30:20 that's how it is on Android too Mar 09 03:30:22 because the files were easy to back up, and easy to get on a desktop or whatever and attach to with the sqlite client and see what was n them and how they work Mar 09 03:30:23 yeah Mar 09 03:30:32 so I was just going to say, on android you can do the same thing, Mar 09 03:30:36 (considering many of the architects worked on Palm OS, kinda normal) Mar 09 03:31:04 Anybody see my pastebin above? Mar 09 03:31:10 and what that gives me IMO is a way to peer into things whether they're working or not and the interface is SELECT * FROM and UPDATE and INSERT or whatever, not "try to figure out some jackass's custom format" Mar 09 03:31:17 Now don't get me wrong, sqlite is kind of a piece of crap Mar 09 03:31:35 woah Mar 09 03:31:36 but for this kind of thing, it feels like quite a good fit ... Mar 09 03:31:59 why is sqlite crap? Mar 09 03:32:00 haha ok maybe that was too strong a way to put it. Mar 09 03:32:16 for bigger applications and stuff like at work though i mean Mar 09 03:32:31 its meant to be an emdedded db. thats all. Mar 09 03:32:34 transactional support, overall reliability, concurrency, language support Mar 09 03:32:38 oh absolutely I get it Mar 09 03:32:41 It's called SQLite :) Mar 09 03:32:43 I don't think it should be mariadb or oracle Mar 09 03:32:44 yeah i know Mar 09 03:32:49 sqlite is a replacement for fopen Mar 09 03:32:58 and compared to a lot of the alternatives out there it's great don't get me wrong Mar 09 03:33:59 honestly for just stored little ints with lists of little ints as their value i think im gonna use shared preferences Mar 09 03:34:07 sure Mar 09 03:34:19 sqlite really can do the same thing, you can make your own preferences table with key, value Mar 09 03:34:31 that approachw ould set you up better for the future, Mar 09 03:34:38 but if you don't need more than shared settings, it's way overkill Mar 09 03:34:45 so hopefully that helps you decide Mar 09 03:35:05 my shared preferences thing is stupidly simple, i mean it's Mar 09 03:35:13 SharedPreferences prefs = getSharedPreferences(GreenlightSettings.PREFS_NAME, 0); Mar 09 03:35:42 gets the preferences thing, then you have to create a SharedPreferences.Editor to create a "putString()" or whatever operation, then editor.commit() Mar 09 03:36:03 then to read it back it's like sharedPrefs.getString(KEYNAME, DEFAULT); Mar 09 03:36:08 it's butt ass simple and it just works Mar 09 03:36:34 I need something that can be queried on the ui thread, specifically in a list Mar 09 03:39:32 Do you suspect SharedPreferences is not threadsafe or something? Mar 09 03:39:45 not fast enough Mar 09 03:39:48 OH Mar 09 03:39:51 or scalable enough Mar 09 03:40:07 I really haven't explored concurrency issues in android yet, and I don't quite know what to expect. Mar 09 03:43:49 CanyonMan: it's a decent class, the first part isn't even in android (or wasn't last year) Mar 09 03:43:59 anybody? http://pastebin.com/wNFkDnV2 Mar 09 03:44:17 concurrency is easy to mess up Mar 09 03:44:40 the class teaches some useful abstractions android offers on top of basic java concurrency mechanisms Mar 09 03:45:02 yeah? hmm Mar 09 03:45:21 Do any of you use spring on android? Mar 09 03:45:37 i started to but decided to go with individual modules instead Mar 09 03:45:47 the cloud services for android class is all about spring Mar 09 03:46:32 i did get spring social demo working on android Mar 09 03:46:40 was it painful? Mar 09 03:46:42 for facebook Mar 09 03:47:07 once i figured out the facebook app hardwired into the demo was dead and replaced it with my own facebook app info it worked ok Mar 09 03:47:22 and that you can no longer get all friends of a user, just their friends that also use the app, but that's facebook specific Mar 09 03:47:26 there doesn't seem to be good guice support for android :( Mar 09 03:48:02 there's a project named RoboGuice but it looks iffy to me Mar 09 03:48:08 (and there was much rejoicing) Mar 09 03:48:28 JesusFreke: if it's working (whatever it is) you're supposed to shout EUREKA! Mar 09 03:48:34 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7812885/does-it-make-sense-to-use-guice-for-android Mar 09 03:48:58 CanyonMan: no, I meant there was much rejoicing about not having good guice support for android :p Mar 09 03:49:09 use dagger, much better Mar 09 03:49:29 we used Guice for three years Mar 09 03:49:30 worked well Mar 09 03:49:36 I freakin love guice Mar 09 03:49:39 especially compared to spring Mar 09 03:49:40 LOVE Mar 09 03:49:51 but I used it a shit ton with jersey (jax-rs) Mar 09 03:50:11 and when jersey wen tover to using HK, you had to use an HK to Guice bridge Mar 09 03:50:18 and it became essentially UNWORKABLE Mar 09 03:50:25 that's the only reason I started using spring Mar 09 03:53:59 Are there any rules on displaying Google ads in app? Mar 09 03:55:00 pardelkat: https://support.google.com/admob/answer/2753860?hl=en Mar 09 03:55:26 You'll find plenty of info about what you can and can't do on the relevant site for your ad provider Mar 09 03:58:24 I don't see any rules about providing users with a reward for clicking on an ad, are there rules against that? Mar 09 03:59:12 I wouldn't try that pardelkat , a friend on mine clicked on my ads too often and I got banned from Google ads Mar 09 03:59:13 I'm not familiar with the rules :) Mar 09 04:09:20 CanyonMan: i went with a simple sqlite database, it was easy enough Mar 09 04:12:05 If you get the performance you need out of it, I think you'll be happy in the long run that you went this way Mar 09 04:19:24 hmm, what would a good table structure be if i just need to associate one integer with multiple integers Mar 09 04:20:02 a one to many mapping table, first column the integer you need to associate, second column one of the target integers, no unique key Mar 09 04:21:44 something like "CREATE TABLE posts ( parent INTEGER, children INTEGER)" Mar 09 04:22:04 yep Mar 09 04:22:07 danke Mar 09 04:22:10 np Mar 09 04:23:26 Afternoon gang! Mar 09 04:23:54 I would like a login screen on my app, is there an API for this? or do I need to roll my own? Mar 09 04:24:06 roll your own Mar 09 04:24:56 I noticed there is an example in Android studio however it depends on a higher API and requires stupid permissions like call log Mar 09 04:25:21 well there's a lot of concerns Mar 09 04:25:29 you might want 3rd party auth with oauth Mar 09 04:25:32 dont you call the call log permission stupid Mar 09 04:25:35 phix iosched 2014 has a google+ login , you can see how they did that Mar 09 04:25:36 it worked very hard to get where it is Mar 09 04:25:40 myke: Would I be better using JAAS or a similar auth API? Mar 09 04:25:48 you might want to let the user store login/pass on the app side, there's a user manager for that Mar 09 04:25:51 desmin88: hehe Mar 09 04:26:37 if it's your own app (and presumably there's a server) you can store an auth token instead of user/pass directly Mar 09 04:26:37 myke: I don't want to use oauth, then again, depending on the API I use on the server end, I could use oath Mar 09 04:26:41 oauth* Mar 09 04:26:55 It is my own app and server Mar 09 04:27:14 you can store user/pass directly and use http auth on your REST api, that's what i'm doing, but it's not very slick Mar 09 04:27:31 the server side is running django (with djangrestframework) and client side has retrofit as restful client Mar 09 04:28:06 myke: hmmm, I would need that to tie into django's auth system, apparantly DRF supports this, as well as a token and oauth Mar 09 04:30:14 myke: do you recommend I use JAAS? Mar 09 04:31:18 phix: no Mar 09 04:31:31 i've never heard of JAAS and it seems to have been around for over a decade Mar 09 04:31:37 as a small project, i'd like to automate a simple game (think tic-tac-toe) i've been playing. Is this feasible? Mar 09 04:31:40 doesn't sound like something that caught on Mar 09 04:31:48 buck1: yes Mar 09 04:32:02 myke: would i use uiautomator or something else? Mar 09 04:32:34 JAAS is a terrible awful thing Mar 09 04:32:41 you know it's funny Mar 09 04:32:51 I'm having ac onversation about single sign on for rest services right now on another channel Mar 09 04:32:59 CanyonMan: it's a hot topic Mar 09 04:33:03 yeah Mar 09 04:33:07 I've made soem decisions htough Mar 09 04:33:14 buck1: never heard of uiautomator Mar 09 04:33:18 I'm wokring on a microservices architecture with an authentication/authorization service bus Mar 09 04:33:26 and i decided to use this for the token format Mar 09 04:33:41 myke: could you help me figure out a very rough sketch of libraries? Mar 09 04:33:43 https://developer.atlassian.com/static/connect/docs/concepts/understanding-jwt.html Mar 09 04:33:50 buck1: probably not Mar 09 04:34:07 so my plan is that my auth microservice will connect to OpenIDC, SAML2, or LDAP based on your plugins Mar 09 04:34:18 or, prior art in open-source for this kind of thing Mar 09 04:34:18 bu it will issue tokens like a token vending machine in the form of these JWT tokens Mar 09 04:34:28 There seems to be good support for JWT in a few languages Mar 09 04:35:09 jwt looks interesting Mar 09 04:35:19 dspite the fact that the devil wrote it, the first half of this is interesting (until it becomes a commercial) if you're interested in this topic https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb417064.aspx Mar 09 04:35:27 i was referring to http://developer.android.com/tools/help/uiautomator/index.html Mar 09 04:35:54 anyway not to derail the conversation, I just saw that and wanted to chime in that federated login approaches that exist today suck bloody ass for rest services Mar 09 04:36:08 My chief complaint is that the popular ones all assume you're 1) human 2) using a browser Mar 09 04:36:24 so a lot of the embedded stuff I do, it just can't do that without a shit ton of heavy libraries and baggage, and it blows Mar 09 04:36:42 So I'm looking for a way to separate these things out, have a user get a token and have that token be meaningful and last a long time Mar 09 04:36:58 then in android land, if I discover that token became invalid, well THEN start a WebView, make the guy log in and obtain a new one Mar 09 04:39:29 i expect it to keep changing for a while Mar 09 04:39:53 myke: what made you say it was feasible? Mar 09 04:40:27 buck1: i thought you meant reimplent the game, not pull it off a ui running elsewhere Mar 09 04:40:44 yes reimplement the game would be much simpler Mar 09 04:41:08 i'd like to make a player for the existing app Mar 09 04:48:18 i am new to android development, i have finished the tutorial in the udacity and i want to check out how people organize their apps, is there any open source apps that i can check out ? Mar 09 04:48:42 shafox you can look at google iosched Mar 09 04:48:49 shafox, search github Mar 09 04:48:58 there are tons Mar 09 04:49:10 g00s: thanks. Mar 09 04:49:27 man, i wanted to install rhodecode on my ec2 instance butg now i'm having trouble finding how how the hell to get to the 20 or less free license without having to talk to a sales guy Mar 09 04:49:28 pfn: searching there, but little weak on keywords Mar 09 04:49:42 android... Mar 09 04:50:19 pfn, honestly you'd get libraries more than apps with that keyword Mar 09 04:50:55 anything that builds into an aar has a pretty similar code structure to an app Mar 09 04:51:11 working with views, resources, etc Mar 09 04:51:42 still tons of good stuff to learn from Mar 09 04:53:00 lol just got a reply on a github issue I created two years ago Mar 09 04:53:14 Reply was: "can you make a PR", lol nooooope Mar 09 04:53:47 Typical open source fan response Mar 09 04:54:48 You're not allowed to complaing (i.e. file bugs) about a project unless you're ready to fix it yourself Mar 09 04:55:26 CedricBeust, I've sent lots of PRs but if you haven't updated your project and haven't bothered to reply to an issue in 2 years. Honestly, I don't use your project anymore and it's clear that you don't care about it either Mar 09 04:57:07 Afzal: Which project? Mar 09 04:57:30 CedricBeust, why do you wanna know? Mar 09 04:58:22 Because I'm a bit surprised by the claim but willing to investigate Mar 09 04:58:54 Afzal: did you mean to address that complaint to CedricBeust personally, or were you being rhetorical? Mar 09 04:58:57 I updated and published new versions of JCommander and TestNG this past month alone so maybe it's another project you're referring to? Mar 09 04:59:12 CedricBeust, sure, https://github.com/eldarion/eldarion-ajax-demo/issues/3#issuecomment-77766252 Mar 09 04:59:29 Nope, not your project Mar 09 04:59:36 Yeah I have no idea what this project is Mar 09 04:59:41 Honestly, I don't even know how correct that PR is. Mar 09 04:59:48 I mean issue Mar 09 04:59:50 not PR Mar 09 05:00:56 Afzal: So maybe go a bit easier next time you want to attack someone on a channel with 400+ people? Mar 09 05:01:04 Huh? Dude Mar 09 05:01:11 Read your reply okay? Mar 09 05:01:20 * CedricBeust shrugs Mar 09 05:01:23 * Iskarlar has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) Mar 09 05:01:23 lol just got a reply on a github issue I created two years ago Mar 09 05:01:24 * himcesjf_ (~cesjf@unaffiliated/him-cesjf) has joined #android-dev Mar 09 05:01:24 Reply was: "can you make a PR", lol nooooope Mar 09 05:01:24 Typical open source fan response Mar 09 05:01:25 You're not allowed to complaing (i.e. file bugs) about a project unless you're ready to fix it yourself Mar 09 05:01:28 CedricBeust, I've sent lots of PRs but if you haven't updated your project and haven't bothered to reply to an issue in 2 years. Honestly, I don't use your project anymore and it's clear that you don't care about it either Mar 09 05:01:32 Here I'll paste it for you Mar 09 05:01:41 Afzal: just stop Mar 09 05:01:47 Yeah I'll stop Mar 09 05:02:13 Some people are way too defensive even when nobody's talking about them Mar 09 05:02:26 I have no idea why you responded what you did after my cheeky observation on open source in general Mar 09 05:02:52 but if you're going to make me look like a jerk in front of 400 people, yeah I'll get a tad defensive Mar 09 05:03:07 Lol man, I didn't make you look like anything Mar 09 05:03:09 CedricBeust: he was talking in the abstract, talking to the owner of the project who isn't here - he didn't mean to address the comment to you directly Mar 09 05:03:18 the "you" I used was a general thing, not you you Mar 09 05:03:24 Ah alright, point taken Mar 09 05:03:43 plain-text English is hard :) Mar 09 05:03:47 hi all, I have a class that extends AsyncTask, I would like to pass a List argument to it apart of the url to call, Mar 09 05:03:54 Sorry for overreacting, I take this kind of complaint on projects I run seriously Mar 09 05:04:01 https://bpaste.net/show/30788870f5ae Mar 09 05:04:36 and the code to call it asyncPostAdapter.execute(optionList); Mar 09 05:04:47 zoraj, what's the problem? Mar 09 05:04:49 how would I do it Mar 09 05:05:00 Erm, what have you tried Mar 09 05:05:01 :) Mar 09 05:05:21 Afzal, I can't figure out ho to pass the List argument Mar 09 05:05:28 zoraj: Change your second type parameter to List. Right now you have two Strings Mar 09 05:05:59 s/second/first Mar 09 05:06:18 CedricBeust, the Void parameter ? Mar 09 05:06:18 Yup, and then just do arg0[0] in doInBackground to retrieve it Mar 09 05:06:28 No, he mean the first param Mar 09 05:06:35 Next be aware that there are a lot of issues with AsyncTask, especially with configuration changes and backing out of the task before it's complete Mar 09 05:06:46 Rx addresses a lot of these issues Mar 09 05:07:21 Is it okay to use Rx for all async stuff? Or is there any downside to that? Mar 09 05:07:38 well, for now I can't modify the code to use Rx, maybe later, I have to make it work first Mar 09 05:07:49 well, I mean besides the extent of manual control with ExecutorService Mar 09 05:07:55 zoraj: Fair enough, stick to AsyncTask Mar 09 05:08:01 public class AsyncPostAdapter extends AsyncTask Mar 09 05:08:10 to public class AsyncPostAdapter extends AsyncTask, String> ? Mar 09 05:08:26 No Mar 09 05:08:28 AsyncTask, Void, String> Mar 09 05:08:34 List, Void, String Mar 09 05:08:55 zoraj: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html (seciont "AsyncTask's generic types) Mar 09 05:09:00 section( Mar 09 05:09:03 section* Mar 09 05:09:06 thank you Mar 09 05:09:47 it requires me to add the @Override method protected String doInBackground(List... params) { Mar 09 05:10:05 but now how I can retrieve the url to be passed ? Mar 09 05:10:19 zoraj: Read the link I gave you Mar 09 05:10:29 I have to pass a List argument and a String the url Mar 09 05:10:34 ok ^^ let me read it Mar 09 05:10:39 I get eerily suspicious when my app just works the first time Mar 09 05:10:46 why do you need to send the URL? Mar 09 05:10:51 there has to be a bug somewhere. Mar 09 05:10:54 which part of the url is not static? Mar 09 05:11:06 desmin88: There is, you're just only testing the happy path :) Mar 09 05:11:35 Afzal, the goal of my class is call a url, by posting an Array of Integer Mar 09 05:13:01 if the URL is never changing, just make it static Mar 09 05:13:06 then you won't need to pass the URL Mar 09 05:13:14 it changes Mar 09 05:13:27 I need to call lot of WebService Mar 09 05:13:43 I have no idea what you're doing so I can't really say more Mar 09 05:13:44 but every WS, I have to pass some Array Argument Mar 09 05:13:55 Then create a holder that contains both the url and the list of integers? (still not sure I understand your problem well) Mar 09 05:15:01 let me explain it, I have a Webservice http://localhost/ws/post/option Mar 09 05:15:18 yeah pretty sure I can't click that :) Mar 09 05:15:45 yes I know, just to help you understand what I want to do, Mar 09 05:15:51 Go on Mar 09 05:16:16 for GET method, I just do this asyncAdapter.execute(url) Mar 09 05:16:43 asyncAdapter is an instance of public class AsyncWsAdapter extends AsyncTask Mar 09 05:16:55 but right now I need not to GET, but POST thing Mar 09 05:16:57 zoraj, just so you know, for all your network-related problems, there's Retrofit Mar 09 05:17:08 Yeah I was going to recommend retrofit too Mar 09 05:17:15 so was I Mar 09 05:17:20 JakeWharton: You don't say Mar 09 05:17:34 It changed the landscape of network requests on android lol Mar 09 05:18:04 I still managed to find a scenario where retrofit is now an option, though Mar 09 05:18:10 not an option* Mar 09 05:18:26 do elaborate, so i can fix! Mar 09 05:18:33 haha Mar 09 05:18:33 JakeWharton: I dare you Mar 09 05:18:39 JakeWharton: One word for you: web sockets Mar 09 05:18:43 ' Mar 09 05:18:50 web sockets are tricky indeed Mar 09 05:19:02 I still dare you Mar 09 05:19:07 I'm finishing off the WebSocket support in OkHttp right now Mar 09 05:19:14 JakeWharton: Music to my ears Mar 09 05:19:34 Retrofit sounds like really interesting, but for now I cannot modify my base code lack of time Mar 09 05:19:48 JakeWharton: Can you please finish finishing? It's been in the works for a while :p Mar 09 05:20:26 yes it has. did you see Facebook's Stetho? well I wrote one of those quite some time ago and my intolerance for other web socket libraries is why I never finished my Chrome DevTools thing and instead started writing my own web socket implementation Mar 09 05:20:34 I'm familiar with stetho yes Mar 09 05:21:07 I need to restructure my app, users switching list contents are getting info from old callbacks that never finished Mar 09 05:21:13 My code base is pretty schizophrenic because of that: clean, nice JSON REST code with retrofit and dirty protobuf websocket based with another library I shall not name (but which doesn work) Mar 09 05:21:14 w/ retrofit Mar 09 05:21:28 which does* work Mar 09 05:22:08 Can't believe it's 2015 and irc still won't let me edit my last sentence. I've been spoiled by slack. Mar 09 05:22:28 yeah i really don't know how I'd do web sockets with Retrofit. How do you know what message to use for deserializing a frame? Mar 09 05:22:50 what protobuf message, that is Mar 09 05:23:03 Haven't really given that much of a thought, I know the upgrade mechanism of web sockets is pretty gnarly Mar 09 05:23:29 (and super hacky too) Mar 09 05:23:57 i mean specifically how do you do it? or is every frame the same message type? Mar 09 05:24:21 No, multiple message types (not much point otherwise) Mar 09 05:24:28 is the message type early in the protobuf header? Mar 09 05:24:55 I'm attempting to grab data from XML elements on a server, and I'm able to do so for every field but one, and have it display Mar 09 05:24:56 ah, yeah i forgot you can write the type in the bytes itself Mar 09 05:25:25 we obviously never do that for request/response endpoints because they're always known Mar 09 05:25:31 However, there's one element (formatted as ) that I'm unable to get to display. Instead my app crashes Mar 09 05:26:20 I've gotten it to display with the data of a separate element (such as Bob Dylan) Mar 09 05:30:42 Any ideas? Mar 09 05:31:27 WheatThins: "My app crashes" is not useful, what is the error exactly? Mar 09 05:31:49 Hold on while I cause it to happen again Mar 09 05:37:19 CedricBeust, ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run() line:905 Mar 09 05:37:32 Also, ZygoteInit.main(String[]) line:694 Mar 09 05:38:08 Variables are this, and ex Mar 09 05:39:01 WheatThins: did you define your main method in your android manifest? Mar 09 05:39:41 android:name=".MainActivity" Mar 09 05:39:42 android:label="@string/title_activity_main" > Mar 09 05:39:42 Mar 09 05:39:46 Yes Mar 09 05:40:17 The application does its job entirely, except for one element it isn't able to pull from Mar 09 05:40:23 Which, if I enable, causes this crash Mar 09 05:40:45 it looks like there's no way to send events from my app to another without root. correct? Mar 09 05:40:58 touch / key events Mar 09 05:40:58 buck1: intents? Mar 09 05:40:59 All the ones that work are being requested from the same .java file as the one that doesn't work Mar 09 05:41:20 myke, forgot to highlight Mar 09 05:42:19 desmin88: touch / key events Mar 09 05:44:07 buck1: service/servicebinding? Mar 09 05:44:16 or broadcast events Mar 09 05:44:25 content provider - content resolver Mar 09 05:44:38 CedricBeust, http://i.imgur.com/chY65GG.png I'm doing this for now as a test to see if it reads the values. Everything is read, but those returns/blank areas should read as Attribute: (Yes/No here) Mar 09 05:44:49 The data is being pulled from http://www.papademas.net/cd_catalog3.xml Mar 09 05:44:51 desmin88: the recieving app would need to listen for keypress broadcasts yes? Mar 09 05:45:09 touch* Mar 09 05:45:21 you should use service and service bindin Mar 09 05:45:31 that way you can directly cal methods in the other application Mar 09 05:45:51 desmin88: the other application is not mine. will that still work? Mar 09 05:45:58 sounds like they'd need to provide the api Mar 09 05:46:00 the fuck Mar 09 05:46:14 what is the other app Mar 09 05:46:27 desmin88: he's trying to make a bot to play someone else's game Mar 09 05:46:35 .. Mar 09 05:46:37 * desmin88 done Mar 09 05:47:24 WheatThins: that's a weird error to get after app launch, maybe you found a way to break whatever xml parser you're using Mar 09 05:47:49 .. i'll take that to mean it's impossible without root Mar 09 05:48:13 myke, presently I'm getting information via Mar 09 05:48:14 if(localName.equalsIgnoreCase("title")) Mar 09 05:48:14 data.setTitle(elementValue); Mar 09 05:48:31 s/title/artist for artist, etc Mar 09 05:48:46 I can get that blank space to display Attribute = (title here) or any other element Mar 09 05:49:06 But it crashes if I do (localName.equalsIgnoreCase("CD")) and data.setCD(elementValue) Mar 09 05:49:28 setCD and getCD in a separate file are modeled just like the title/artist fields as well Mar 09 05:49:38 WheatThins: compare to "cd" for starters. Next, what is the crash exactly? Mar 09 05:50:14 "cd" instead of "CD", even though there's equalsIgnoreCase on there? Mar 09 05:50:32 I never remember if it's necessary, probably not. Either way, not the cause for the crash Mar 09 05:50:45 RxJava has any cool method to merge 10 streams at once? Mar 09 05:50:48 The crash is that zygote thing I pasted above. The application itself just closes Mar 09 05:51:08 You linked to nonexistent lines in ZygoteInit.java, not sure what that means Mar 09 05:51:28