**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 12 02:59:58 2015 Mar 12 03:00:07 your welcome Mar 12 03:00:17 His welcome? Mar 12 03:00:21 desmin88: i assume your getting the "correct" drawable from the support lib Mar 12 03:00:41 CedricBeust: ofc his.. its hardly yours :D Mar 12 03:00:50 You mean it's hardly mine? Mar 12 03:01:00 :| Mar 12 03:01:01 Napalm: I got it from http://google.github.io/material-design-icons/ Mar 12 03:01:20 desmin88: sure that'll work.. although i dont think it'll get auto-tinted Mar 12 03:01:59 yeah its just black without any bit of transparency Mar 12 03:02:08 im not quite sure how to get it right Mar 12 03:03:48 arg, they made DrawerArrowDrawable package-private Mar 12 03:03:49 :( Mar 12 03:03:58 yeah i'm looking at its source right know Mar 12 03:03:59 now Mar 12 03:04:58 i cant see how it determines its alpha value Mar 12 03:05:38 desmin88: thats probably your image thats wrong Mar 12 03:05:52 DrawerArrowDrawable has a transparent background Mar 12 03:06:00 i went with the black version of the icon Mar 12 03:06:11 and? Mar 12 03:06:18 it doesnt match the normal hamburger Mar 12 03:06:24 its darker Mar 12 03:06:33 take a picture Mar 12 03:06:42 ok Mar 12 03:07:21 http://gyazo.com/e4a97b02176542c1eadbcf416b4ebd9b notice how the hamburger is different from the overflow three dots Mar 12 03:07:38 yes Mar 12 03:07:41 its suppose to be solid Mar 12 03:07:47 the overflow icon is wrong Mar 12 03:07:53 oh Mar 12 03:07:59 how can i fix that then, lol Mar 12 03:08:06 i believe material design they dont have a alpha Mar 12 03:08:19 desmin88: do you set the overflow icon yourself in the styles? Mar 12 03:08:27 nope, but i will now Mar 12 03:08:34 interesting Mar 12 03:09:19 All part of the struggle to get it to look the same on <21, >=21 Mar 12 03:10:46 http://www.google.com/design/spec/style/icons.html < scroll to the bottom have tey have the color recommendations Mar 12 03:11:21 I think black looks better on the red toolbar compared to white Mar 12 03:11:37 i disagree Mar 12 03:11:50 lets see what it looks like Mar 12 03:11:54 you should go for a light grey on white Mar 12 03:12:02 oopsy Mar 12 03:12:10 ? Mar 12 03:12:21 i mean, light grey on that red.. perhaps. Mar 12 03:13:07 text color as well? Mar 12 03:13:57 It kinda messes with my eyes: http://gyazo.com/a1f32bd0803bc4777bcbb5f95ff0d3bc Mar 12 03:14:03 on the phone screen its weird to look at Mar 12 03:15:09 Straight white isnt too bad: http://gyazo.com/4266a5e03ee64b234576cc907b9c220d Mar 12 03:15:49 What do y'all think? Black, grey, or white? Mar 12 03:16:33 According to http://www.materialpalette.com/red/grey my theme should have white for the icons and text Mar 12 03:19:00 desmin88: http://oi58.tinypic.com/2iie6uc.jpg Mar 12 03:19:39 material red weight 600 #e53935, with white weight 100 #F5F5F5 Mar 12 03:20:41 right, shit.. i gtg.. cya later Mar 12 03:25:19 can anyone help me set my auto focus on my camera app. everything works fine, but when I add params.setFocusMode(Camera.Parameters.FOCUS_MODE_AUTO); I get this fatal exception: https://bpaste.net/show/178eeb1b0a3d Mar 12 03:25:34 Camera.Parameters params = camera.getParameters(); Mar 12 03:25:51 I feel like Im not using the correct syntax to set the focus mode Mar 12 03:50:02 finally got a Google cardboard vr thingy. the N6's ludicrously high density screen makes a bit more sense there, but the drift is horrible D: Mar 12 04:26:41 heya yall Mar 12 04:28:16 anyone here use intellij 14 or android studios 1.2? Mar 12 04:31:46 I was using intellij 14 Mar 12 04:31:49 what is the question? Mar 12 04:39:21 gordon_: ah, i was just going to ask if it supported lambdas for android development after seeing a note on lambdas, but it looks like the issue is android-side Mar 12 04:39:51 android doesnt support lambdas Mar 12 04:39:53 retrolambda Mar 12 04:40:00 works fine Mar 12 04:40:15 as I said before I would watch out for retrolambda Mar 12 04:40:20 why Mar 12 04:40:28 is it supported ? Mar 12 04:40:35 yes? Mar 12 04:40:37 seems like hack to me Mar 12 04:40:47 how is it hacky Mar 12 04:40:52 by who Mar 12 04:41:00 it works flawlessly Mar 12 04:41:04 https://github.com/evant/gradle-retrolambda Mar 12 04:41:48 it's a simple bytecode translation Mar 12 04:41:55 desmin88: no consumer/Predicate interfaces though Mar 12 04:42:23 I know it works but I dont want to look for strange errors later on in crashlytics Mar 12 04:42:46 there are no strange errors Mar 12 04:42:47 Using Google Play Services causes retrolambda to fail Mar 12 04:43:03 no, it doesn't Mar 12 04:43:21 I'm reading this on project github page.... Mar 12 04:43:21 gordon_ you seem so vehemently opposed to a wonderful library Mar 12 04:43:21 play services causes java 8 to fail Mar 12 04:43:47 what? Mar 12 04:43:57 which is bypassed by running retrolambda with -noverify Mar 12 04:45:31 desmin88: I'm not opposed, I'm just cautious ;) Mar 12 04:45:33 google compiles play services in a way that it fails the java 8 class verifier Mar 12 04:46:09 I will read about it later Mar 12 04:46:26 it just works Mar 12 04:46:32 theres nothing really to read Mar 12 04:46:36 workaround : -noverify Mar 12 04:47:29 anyone using jack & jill, did they get an update in the new built-tools ? Mar 12 04:48:09 * pfn shrugs, haven't even started using retrolambda, other than integration Mar 12 04:48:23 does android studio 1.1 come with bundled sdk-manager? Mar 12 04:49:00 installed 1.1 from beta but sdks did not get recognized Mar 12 04:55:36 What are the cool kids doing to keep a dialog from dismissing on a configuration change? Mar 12 04:56:10 recreating it Mar 12 04:56:56 so, do you have some check in onCreate to see if the bundle isn't null and then recreating the whole dialog? That seems crazy Mar 12 04:57:04 welcome to android **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 12 05:04:06 2015 Mar 12 05:13:28 everytime I move away from a list view item to another activity and come back again to the listview activity the activity goes to the top(ie it is refreshed) .How to stop this. Mar 12 05:13:55 The view should remain at the last item I clicked in the listview after returining from other activities Mar 12 05:15:54 you have retain the scroll position yourself Mar 12 05:22:03 Is it better to go with Icon-type fonts? Or use an image? I'm thinking the fonts - but I've never used custom fonts with android. Is it a pain? Mar 12 05:27:22 t0astt: whats your use case? Mar 12 05:28:12 desmin88: I want to use a phone, "delete", and "profile" icon Mar 12 05:29:01 http://google.github.io/material-design-icons/ Mar 12 05:29:18 http://romannurik.github.io/AndroidAssetStudio/ Mar 12 05:29:30 I actually might not go with the icons, on second thought. Normal buttons may look better Mar 12 05:32:31 Anybody using fabric.io? I use crashlytics but it looks real awesome to have mopub, analytics, etc. all in one Mar 12 05:33:25 doesn't look like Play handles diconnected internets well http://i.imgur.com/SS8xZPm.png Mar 12 05:33:47 my app downright crashes on open if airplane mode is on Mar 12 05:33:52 no stacktrace in logcat either Mar 12 05:34:00 have yet to figure that out Mar 12 05:45:38 oh wow, the TI Sensortag was updated. out with the CC2541 (8051) now its got a CC2650 with Cortex-M3 Mar 12 05:48:32 Whats the best way to implement all these different list item types for a nav drawer? it seems like a total PITA with adapters and view positions and what not Mar 12 05:48:42 isn't there something special about using onClick listeners in fragments? Mar 12 05:48:47 as in it doesn't work? Mar 12 05:48:56 t0astt yeah, from xml they dont work Mar 12 05:49:04 desmin88 "some assembly required" Mar 12 05:49:16 its kinda ridiculous how much is needed Mar 12 05:49:32 yeah Mar 12 05:49:34 thanks g00s Mar 12 05:49:55 desmin88 maybe somebody makes a little library that reads a menu.xml and puts it in there Mar 12 06:10:38 don't use onClick in xml Mar 12 06:10:44 there's your fix Mar 12 06:11:35 g00s: you mean like the upcoming design support library? Mar 12 06:11:43 (which does just that) Mar 12 06:12:29 JakeWharton that sounds nice. i just thought it would be a good idea. i guess others thought so too :D Mar 12 06:13:24 just declaratively state what goes in the panel, let all the things happen automatically :) Mar 12 06:15:14 So I have a function, public void onPositive in a dialog, that typically requires an "@Override". However in this case, it is erroring and saying "method does not override or implement a method from a supertype". If I remove the @Override, it vomits errors all over me... any ideas? Or is it a code-specific thing? Mar 12 06:15:42 t0astt thats gross ! Mar 12 06:16:03 NEVERMIND GUYS. Turns out I'm more tired than I thought. I missed a key component - filling in the parameter :/ Mar 12 06:17:15 Actually no, I was correct. Mar 12 06:17:18 Still erorrings :P Mar 12 06:38:21 Any ideas why the onPositive with the Log.i() inside of it isn't firing when clicked? http://pastebin.com/gzAhbZJG Mar 12 06:43:59 desmin88 did you see this ? http://androidshenanigans.blogspot.pt/2015/03/material-design-template.html Mar 12 06:45:09 g00s: i did not but i just implemented my own way Mar 12 06:45:12 :( Mar 12 06:45:26 i just saw that on /r/androiddev Mar 12 06:57:50 thepoosh ! Mar 12 06:57:56 hi man Mar 12 07:16:43 hey I have some weird issued with log4j and httpclient... Mar 12 07:16:47 on the backend.. Mar 12 07:17:07 Exception in thread "Thread-3" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/http/HttpEntity **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 12 07:25:16 2015 Mar 12 07:32:20 hi Mar 12 07:46:13 This is great! Mar 12 07:46:25 Thanks for all the retrolambda discussion, folks. Did not know of it :) Mar 12 07:46:42 lut4rp good luck ! Mar 12 07:46:51 \o/ Mar 12 07:47:19 I knew reading all the 2000+ messages in #android-dev every morning, would do me good some day Mar 12 07:47:20 :P Mar 12 07:47:30 hmm, probably not Mar 12 07:47:41 you might even wind up stupider Mar 12 07:47:54 hopefully the decrease in IQ is just temporary though Mar 12 07:48:54 g00s, ! Mar 12 07:49:00 hey lemonxah ! Mar 12 07:49:00 g00s ! hello Mar 12 07:49:08 lol akka .. i like it Mar 12 07:49:17 ima use akka as a message bus on my next android ap Mar 12 07:49:17 isn't there a new http-akka thing ? Mar 12 07:49:37 lemonxah it requires scala though, right ? Mar 12 07:49:54 they are making spray-io part of akka calling it akka-io i believe Mar 12 07:50:00 and you can do it in java if you want Mar 12 07:50:11 the library is writtin in scala though Mar 12 07:50:46 i asked pfn a while back if akka would have any uses for a normal java / android dev, he didn't think so. so i never looked ar it again Mar 12 07:51:27 as a message bus but you will have to include scala i think Mar 12 07:51:31 still write it in java Mar 12 07:51:53 What would anyone think a good material icon for general social media i.e an icon indicating facebook/twitter/instagram/etc Mar 12 08:06:51 how can i get md5checksum of a file on Google drive ? Mar 12 08:08:05 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23462168/google-drive-md5-checksum-for-files Mar 12 08:08:45 http://android.google.com/ down? Mar 12 08:09:43 seems like it Mar 12 08:09:45 hmm Mar 12 08:09:47 haha Mar 12 08:09:53 explains my error.. Mar 12 08:09:55 if it is that.. Mar 12 08:10:04 javax.net.ssl.SSLPeerUnverifiedException: Host name 'android.googleapis.com' does not match the certificate subject provided by the peer (CN=*.googleapis.com, O=Google Inc, L=Mountain View, ST=California, C=US) Mar 12 08:10:06 i cant visit it Mar 12 08:10:08 never seen it before Mar 12 08:10:16 not sure if it's visitable Mar 12 08:10:28 oh Mar 12 08:10:31 apis Mar 12 08:10:34 hmm Mar 12 08:10:43 android.google.com is down though that is visitable Mar 12 08:10:44 hahaoops Mar 12 08:10:45 used to be Mar 12 08:11:32 lemonxah thanks Mar 12 08:21:35 anyone know is theres a way change the values of a theme at runtime? Mar 12 08:22:36 you can switch themes at runtime, and overlay new ones on existing - but you can't strictly /change/ values of a theme Mar 12 08:22:57 not that i know of anyhow Mar 12 08:31:46 omgggg Mar 12 08:31:49 found my problem... Mar 12 08:32:08 org.apache.http.client.HttpClient httpClient = HttpClientBuilder.create().build(); Mar 12 08:32:12 instead of using Mar 12 08:32:18 HttpClient httpClient = new DefaultHttpClient(); Mar 12 08:32:21 piece of shit Mar 12 08:32:50 well shit if anyone needs t knw how to get push notifications working Mar 12 08:33:03 hey guys, i have a question. im reading about Volley; i was wondering what is L1 caching that Volley dont not have out of the box, and L2 cache ? Mar 12 08:33:05 with GCM / Tomcat / Jersey Mar 12 08:33:11 * Tricknology shrugs Mar 12 08:45:11 wtf is this. i keep getting "No apk changes detected. Skipping file upload, force stopping package instead." Mar 12 08:45:22 even though i'm editing and rebuilding Mar 12 08:47:30 i've got a foreground service that regularly updates an ongoing notification. is there any way to let it sleep while the screen is off? (all updates while screen is off are useless) Mar 12 08:48:53 if you dont have a wakelock, it should sleep :| Mar 12 08:49:07 that is, if the CPU goes off Mar 12 08:50:53 no wakelock. service is using a Thread{ update; Log; sleep;} and i'm seeing the log constantly (every second, as configured) Mar 12 08:53:06 then somebody is keeping the phone on Mar 12 08:54:16 adb? (it is sending me the Logs ) is there a reliable way to test sleeping? Mar 12 09:00:23 I have a dynamically created view, that I insert a bitmap into. This bitmap I cut out. However the parts I have cut out are not transparent. The places ive cut out the bitmap just has the color of the view background Mar 12 09:00:52 I've tried setting transparent through Color.transparent and using the hex with an alpha value appended infront of it, but nothing really works Mar 12 09:01:11 for cutting the bitmap I use PorterDuff.Mode.CLEAR Mar 12 09:01:26 Anyone who has experience doing something similar :) ? Mar 12 09:02:15 im reading about Volley; i was wondering what is L1 caching that Volley dont not have out of the box, and L2 cache ? Mar 12 09:02:22 Anyone know where I can a free material icon for flickr? Mar 12 09:03:11 desmin88: here you can find all official material icons -> https://github.com/google/material-design-icons Mar 12 09:03:23 Yeah there is no branded icons there though Mar 12 09:10:59 Hi there. I start new activity from amin activity withing action bar. (I support older version from 10 up). All fine new activity starts, and when I press back arrow to go back. It works in 4.4. But it does nothing when I press it in 2.3 android. I just added: getSupportActionBar().setDisplayHomeAsUpEnabled(true); into onCreate method as suggested on docs: Mar 12 09:11:02 https://developer.android.com/training/basics/actionbar/adding-buttons.html#UpNav and it should work. But it doesn't for 2.3 android versions. Any ideas? Mar 12 09:56:08 Anyone with experience creating masks over bitmaps? Mar 12 10:03:59 question: why would sending email with attachment via javamail be so slow on one device, while using dedicated email client so fast? Mar 12 10:04:30 just his one device it takes over 30 seconds to deliver 100kb while on others devices it or other clients it works instantly Mar 12 10:04:49 could be some security reason? Mar 12 10:13:35 Any ideas why I can't start new activity when clicking on a info in action bar for 2.3 versions? Mar 12 10:16:38 frojnd: code? Mar 12 10:24:30 hello, what's up? I am looking for a working tutorial on how to compile a hello world app with ndk and the latest android studio! do you know of any? Mar 12 10:25:04 thepoosh: I posted before I fell of the internet. Let me do it again Mar 12 10:28:08 thepoosh: https://gist.github.com/frojnd/72a0259205b80a658f8c according to docs: https://developer.android.com/training/basics/actionbar/adding-buttons.html#UpNav I should only add getSupportActionBar().setDisplayHomeAsUpEnabled(true); Mar 12 10:28:20 I have sdk 10 min versin Mar 12 10:34:52 thepoosh: any ideas? Mar 12 10:35:18 thepoosh: note, if I click on a back button in actionbar within info activity with 4.4 it works. Mar 12 10:57:09 guys, how to create android apps using html 5, css, js ? Mar 12 10:59:33 hey all Mar 12 10:59:57 arunpyasi, search for PhoneGap or Cordova. Mar 12 11:00:32 i want to ask if I want to use a website to fetch data the website is using php and login form I want to use it to login and get data from android what should I use ? Mar 12 11:02:23 and how can I make a window scrollable ? Mar 12 11:02:50 hi Mar 12 11:02:59 i have problem with this example Mar 12 11:03:02 http://examples.javacodegeeks.com/android/android-videoview-example/ Mar 12 11:03:16 i try it exactly, Mar 12 11:03:34 but in some device that show blank screen Mar 12 11:03:46 instead play video , i hear just sound Mar 12 11:05:19 any idea? Mar 12 11:05:25 what is problem Mar 12 11:05:49 that is funny that on zte kis3 that can't play video and return Mar 12 11:06:03 can't play this video Mar 12 11:10:07 there is no idea? Mar 12 11:13:21 im reading about Volley; i was wondering what is L1 caching that Volley dont not have out of the box, and L2 cache ? Mar 12 11:18:41 there is really no idea? Mar 12 11:27:03 How do I clear IAP so I can test the restore function? I tried clearing data, reinstalling etc doesnt work? Mar 12 12:12:25 so bored Mar 12 12:14:21 fuck android studio how can it that it refractors another directory afther copy paste it refactored the old one to Mar 12 12:14:42 i jsut want to a full copy of current project that to much to ask ? Mar 12 12:15:52 yes .. yes it is too much to ask Mar 12 12:16:46 i know right Mar 12 12:18:25 hi Mar 12 12:18:28 extending BaseAdapter how to show progress bar Mar 12 12:20:04 Why am I getting these EGL errors? and "app passed NULL surface"?: http://pastebin.com/sESf6C1p Mar 12 12:32:14 hi,i checked api and made some research, but im not sure that if I can get contact list current sort order ? Mar 12 13:01:20 having trouble starting an activity from a connected activity's inner class Mar 12 13:01:36 *connected fragment Mar 12 13:02:06 one fragment pops itself while an Observable.just() is doing some stuff in Schedulers.newThread() Mar 12 13:02:53 when the background operation completes, I'm calling the still-connected fragment's inner class method to start an activity Mar 12 13:03:16 NPE at..at com.android.internal.app.ResolverActivity$ResolveListAdapter.rebuildList(ResolverActivity.java:543) Mar 12 13:07:16 Any ideas why "up" navigation in subactivity is not working for a android 2.3 : https://gist.github.com/frojnd/72a0259205b80a658f8c according to docs: https://developer.android.com/training/basics/actionbar/adding-buttons.html#UpNav I should only add getSupportActionBar().setDisplayHomeAsUpEnabled(true); Note for 4.4 up navigation works Mar 12 13:21:45 Any ideas? nope? Mar 12 13:36:39 I'm having a problem with Saripaar, the validation lib, even if I used sequences for multiple rules for one view, it still shows error for all rules. Any idea how can I fix this? Mar 12 13:41:47 Hello house Mar 12 13:42:07 hi Mar 12 13:42:14 Reading again http://developer.android.com/training/implementing-navigation/ancestral.html helped. I forgot to abstract with For sometime now, i've been trying to send sms to a list of phones at the background... Mar 12 13:43:18 Why am I getting these EGL errors? and "app passed NULL surface"?: http://pastebin.com/sESf6C1p Mar 12 13:43:24 but it i loop through the phone list and send sms to individual but its not working.. Mar 12 13:43:46 any help... i've search online but can't get a specific solution Mar 12 13:44:19 hackable does it work without loop? Mar 12 13:52:39 My Kotlin project was working until I tried building it today: Class 'kotlin/KotlinPackage' was compiled with an incompatible version of Kotlin. Its ABI version is 19, expected ABI version is 20 Mar 12 13:53:31 theres a method that is called when the app did enter from background? Mar 12 13:54:17 the top activity will resume Mar 12 13:55:04 Mavrik: so if i want to execute anything i need this method in every activity can be at the top? Mar 12 13:55:31 in ios exists func applicationDidBecomeActive(application: UIApplication) that is called wherever you are Mar 12 13:56:57 Godfather_ http://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/starting.html Mar 12 13:57:27 memorion: i was asking for a “global” resume Mar 12 13:58:36 Godfather_ hm, I don't think that exists since you can have entirely different kinds of applications, like one that's just a background service Mar 12 14:00:27 memorion: oki, im comming from ios where exists this https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIApplicationDelegate_Protocol/#//apple_ref/occ/intfm/UIApplicationDelegate/applicationDidBecomeActive: Mar 12 14:01:24 Godfather_ do these help you? http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Application.html Mar 12 14:02:45 memorion: i will see, but my guess is that android doesnt have this feature, so i must implement a custom method inside every activity, i’ll read that btw Mar 12 14:03:02 morning. Mar 12 14:03:53 Godfather_ the lifecycle is probably pretty different from ios so I don't really think it's a good idea to try to force it to work like on ios Mar 12 14:04:05 ^ Mar 12 14:05:27 Godfather_ maybe stuff like this helps you http://www.objc.io/issue-11/android_101_for_ios_developers.html Mar 12 14:05:47 memorion: ty Mar 12 14:06:00 np Mar 12 14:06:05 KingMe, Yes.. it work without loop... it only send sms to only one phone number Mar 12 14:06:13 For sometime now, i've been trying to send sms to a list of phones at the background... Mar 12 14:06:19 but it i loop through the phone list and send sms to individual but its not working.. Mar 12 14:06:24 any help... i've search online but can't get a specific solution Mar 12 14:13:37 My Kotlin project was working until I tried building it today: Class 'kotlin/KotlinPackage' was compiled with an incompatible version of Kotlin. Its ABI version is 19, expected ABI version is 20. Any idea what's this all about? Mar 12 14:27:04 Hello! In which place it is more appropriate to register(and unregister) BroadcastReceiver (i will update UI from it)? In onCreate onStart onResume? Mar 12 14:30:06 xgearx, http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/BroadcastReceiver.html Mar 12 14:32:29 adq: i found only that "if i register in onresume - i should unregister in onPause" in this doc Mar 12 14:33:05 For sometime now, i've been trying to send sms to a list of phones at the background... but it i loop through the phone list and send sms to individual but its not working...any help... i've search online but can't get a specific solution Mar 12 14:33:05 I use LocalBroadcastManager Mar 12 14:33:23 true story: strictMode.threadpolicy.builder.detactAll() dinged me for 100ms read preference on UI thread, but completely ignored a *12 second* block somewhere in my service - what did i do wrong ? Mar 12 14:35:28 service is not running on ui thread right? so strictmode will not complain Mar 12 14:35:34 since it's blocking in another thread Mar 12 14:35:51 it did an operation on the main thread Mar 12 14:36:01 the main thread of a service is not the ui thread right? Mar 12 14:36:11 sure it is :) Mar 12 14:36:32 ah oops Mar 12 14:36:44 more specifically, i had an RxJava operation initiated from one activity that did not subScribeOn() a non-ui thread Mar 12 14:37:02 with traceview, you can be sure if the method/call will be on ui thread Mar 12 14:37:18 maybe rxjava does something Mar 12 14:37:41 does something which makes it runs on another thread* Mar 12 14:38:32 is there something i need to add to my code so that it can catch abuses like that? or is the android code internally instrumented specially for strictmode to catch ? Mar 12 14:40:55 idk, but I would really use traceview to profile and know which methods runs on which thread and for how long Mar 12 14:41:45 g00s, akka is completely overkill for android, but if it's what you know, it works, there's a load of people using akka on android Mar 12 14:47:18 not much advantage in picking it up just to use on android Mar 12 14:51:04 my app passed into the top 25 new paid last night :) Mar 12 14:53:57 nice! Mar 12 14:55:15 so I get retrolambda Mar 12 14:55:19 but it doesnt have streams... Mar 12 14:56:28 gordon_ yeah streams are a separate java 8 feature Mar 12 14:56:53 maybe I get do something nice with guava then :) Mar 12 14:57:11 well it's called retrolambda not retrostreams :P Mar 12 14:57:16 memorion, thanks! Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.toqueapps.twentyone Mar 12 14:58:29 gordon_: rxandroid might fit the bill Mar 12 14:58:48 saik0: that's my next target Mar 12 14:59:12 do you have some good resources about it ? Mar 12 14:59:23 watching this for now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t06LRX0DV0 Mar 12 15:02:43 gordon_: there is a coursera course if you're unfamiliar with FRP, otherwise the javadocs and wiki are pretty decent Mar 12 15:03:30 I have some weird troubles with my application, sometimes its goes from an activity to the main activity, with no reason Mar 12 15:03:48 like if android was partially killing the app Mar 12 15:04:33 but application dont start like if it was first start, it just goes to main activity Mar 12 15:07:32 gordon_, no streams, use guava and rxjava Mar 12 15:08:20 pfn ok thanks Mar 12 15:08:31 isn't guava like super large Mar 12 15:08:42 I don't think I'd even have enough space on my phone for it Mar 12 15:08:46 Zharf: proguard Mar 12 15:09:04 not worth the effort :p Mar 12 15:09:26 Zharf you may be able to surgically remove the part you need Mar 12 15:09:30 also I don't even know what's in guava, I've only heard that people have problems with method limit which I found weird and then they told me it was because of guava Mar 12 15:09:32 guava is good Mar 12 15:10:04 one of the libraries that make java somewhat bearable Mar 12 15:10:22 pfn: I know guava but dont know rxjava Mar 12 15:10:33 "let's learn" Mar 12 15:11:04 huh, there's people actually releasing software without proguarding it first Mar 12 15:11:20 only thing I can always think of when it comes to shortcomings of java standard library is streams Mar 12 15:11:32 immutable collections Mar 12 15:11:32 Mavrik, sure, I do Mar 12 15:11:36 bunch of parallelism stuff Mar 12 15:11:40 I'm creating a custom adapter and in my getView override I keep getting null passed in as the View value Mar 12 15:11:40 Zharf, why? Mar 12 15:11:45 Mavrik, why not? Mar 12 15:11:58 free optimization and smaller binary. Mar 12 15:12:15 it's like a single option and you save several MB for your users Mar 12 15:12:17 it's extra work and the times I've tried it blew up on my face :p Mar 12 15:12:18 is this a normal issue? how do the program to take in the correct convertView variable? Mar 12 15:12:27 same with resource stripping Mar 12 15:12:28 my applications are less than 4MB though Mar 12 15:12:50 mrfu, convertView CAN be null Mar 12 15:12:57 mrfu, and always will be the first time. Mar 12 15:13:24 the first few times probably Mar 12 15:13:34 * pfn always proguards all apps as part of development Mar 12 15:13:42 its a free process in my build Mar 12 15:13:57 Interesting. I'm getting a null pointer error so i was just assuming it had to do with that. Mar 12 15:14:02 Time to look somewhere else then! Mar 12 15:14:13 if you're not using native stuff it's easier I guess, but frankly I never felt any need for it Mar 12 15:14:37 my applications are small and I don't do graphics :p Mar 12 15:15:18 huh Mar 12 15:15:21 all my apps use native stuff Mar 12 15:15:25 and has always been painless Mar 12 15:15:26 my current application for $work uses proguard because of gms Mar 12 15:15:30 pain always started with obfuscation. Mar 12 15:15:54 isnt it faster after proguard ? Mar 12 15:15:56 since lollipop, you have to use proguard with support library anyways Mar 12 15:16:01 i.e. getters and setters Mar 12 15:16:05 danijoo_, huh? Mar 12 15:16:06 or app will crash on samsung :D Mar 12 15:16:10 Mavrik i thought pain started with optimization :| Mar 12 15:16:10 fuck samsung Mar 12 15:16:12 because of toolbar bug Mar 12 15:16:16 danijoo_: fuck that bug Mar 12 15:16:20 no one cares about samsung phones Mar 12 15:16:28 g00s, hmm, I really never had proguard to anything stupid when optimizing Mar 12 15:16:30 and it's not only samsung Mar 12 15:16:34 Zharf, yeah.just ignore them Mar 12 15:16:39 its only 75% marketshare or so :D Mar 12 15:16:46 false Mar 12 15:16:49 g00s, maybe when using eventbus or some other minor stuff Mar 12 15:17:03 it's only 4.2.2 Mar 12 15:17:14 Mavrik usually its some library that blows up , and you have to dig for their special incantation Mar 12 15:17:31 proguard doesn't cause issues unless you rely on reflection Mar 12 15:17:32 g00s, yeah, reflection based stuff Mar 12 15:17:37 samsung's phones also crash if you getActionBar().hide() for one orientation Mar 12 15:17:40 g00s, but pretty much all stuff has documentation about that Mar 12 15:17:56 samsung crash if you just do hello world -_- Mar 12 15:18:07 samsung has been hurting pretty bad lately, but their GSS 6 looks nice Mar 12 15:18:15 *SGS 6 Mar 12 15:18:29 reflection sucks Mar 12 15:18:38 unfortunately no one has still made a suitable android phone for me since xperia pro/mini pro :p Mar 12 15:18:45 g00s: good, so you can install clear android on it Mar 12 15:18:49 moto x Mar 12 15:18:49 and it will be nice Mar 12 15:18:53 best phone ever Mar 12 15:19:00 moto x is a nice phone Mar 12 15:19:02 nexus 5 too Mar 12 15:19:15