**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 20 02:59:59 2015 Mar 20 03:01:54 I have logs in the onContextItemSelected in both frag 1 and two, and when I choose an item from frag2, both logs from 1 and 2 are being fired Mar 20 03:02:06 But only on the first item Mar 20 03:02:42 woah http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/19/8260073/google-ftc-leaked-anti-trust-report Mar 20 03:02:45 google is the new MS Mar 20 03:05:47 Actually TacticalJoke, all the UI stuff is already inside a runnable Mar 20 03:06:27 In the code I'm looking at, registerForContextMenu (and other stuff) isn't. Mar 20 03:07:03 Ok, im gonna have to cut out now, ill be back tomorrow, did you see what I was talking about with the frags methods interfering> Mar 20 03:07:05 ?* Mar 20 03:07:23 BTW, stuff like this isn't good: catch (Exception e) { e.printStackTrace(); } If you're gonna ignore exceptions, do it this way: catch (Exception e) { throw new RuntimeException(e); } Mar 20 03:07:28 At least you get clear notification then. Mar 20 03:07:37 throw AssertionError(e);, even better Mar 20 03:07:39 Yeah. Mar 20 03:07:54 Ok Mar 20 03:08:15 Thanks guys, talk to you later Mar 20 03:08:17 Later. Mar 20 03:17:15 that exception throwing thingie, I could use that :P Mar 20 03:17:25 me too Mar 20 03:17:30 thanks for that tidbit Mar 20 03:17:36 what's the difference btw? Mar 20 03:18:27 Basically, he was catching all Exceptions (which is a lot of things, including NullPointerException) and simply printing something to LogCat (which is easily missed). Re-throwing it as an unchecked exception ensures that it crashes the app and gets your attention. Mar 20 03:19:45 I guess I should say "unchecked throwable" because of JW's idea. Mar 20 03:20:26 Again, thanks for all the help today.. I'll crash to bed now that I've reached the days goal :P Mar 20 03:20:33 I'll be back ;) Mar 20 03:25:46 groxx: im going to work with that, thanks Mar 20 03:29:12 I automatically reject a code review that contains a printStackTrace() in, on principle Mar 20 03:30:21 I wish IDEs wouldn't generate that stuff. ;| Mar 20 03:34:21 For a new app, should we require API 15 or 16? 15 seems to have even less users than 10, but does 16 add anything that is very valuable? Valuable as in, significantly eases the development process? Mar 20 03:50:22 i think it would be pretty interesting with eye tracking, to have a plugin records where everyone is actually looking in the code - and give a heatmap of the file(s) Mar 20 03:51:03 those are probablt wtf blocks of code Mar 20 03:54:43 sonOfRa i'd probably go 16 Mar 20 03:59:00 sonOfRa here is a nice chart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#/media/File:Android_historical_version_distribution_-_vector.svg Mar 20 04:05:01 go 19 or go home Mar 20 04:06:53 i'm already home Mar 20 04:08:20 then don't go 19 Mar 20 04:08:25 D: Mar 20 04:08:34 unless you happen to live at number 19... Mar 20 04:33:29 I am inflating and adding views programmatically. I am inflating the save view, so the parent has more than one view with the same id. This is a problem when the activity is resumed. Right now I am removing the views in onPause and recreating them in onResume. Is there a better way? Mar 20 04:33:44 * same view not save view Mar 20 04:39:44 surf2b1: you could use a fragment Mar 20 04:43:38 My Application's onCreate() is called, but the launcher activity's onCreate() is not called. Did something change in api 21? (previous min api was 18) Mar 20 04:44:45 myke: I plan to put it in a fragment. Would that really fix the issue though? It looks similar to this: http://stackoverflow.com/a/22928540/1048340 Mar 20 04:53:35 I can't seem to figure out how to respond to reviews in the play store, does anyone know how to do this? Silly question I know, I assume I am missing something obvious. Mar 20 04:54:21 ah doh, its in the developers console Mar 20 04:54:24 :) Mar 20 05:18:00 anyone know if any of the OpenHFT goodies work on android http://openhft.net/products/chronicle-map/ Mar 20 05:18:14 chronicle-map looks nice. i tried the queue, but that didn't work Mar 20 05:20:00 their goal is to be insaley fast, so they use tricks galore from official jvm Mar 20 05:22:53 Interesting stuff Mar 20 05:23:25 thanks for the link :) Mar 20 05:23:36 originally it was just Queue, but their toolbox of things keeps growing :) Mar 20 05:40:01 is it possible to have location services running for an app at intervals in the background? even if the user has navigated out of the app? Mar 20 05:44:07 Does Bluetooth LE scanning require an advertiser or can two scanning devices find one another? Mar 20 05:44:32 I'm testing with nexus 4s that don't support the advertising mode Mar 20 05:46:15 you need a peripheral and central Mar 20 05:46:58 broadcaster / receiver Mar 20 05:59:12 software these days http://i.imgur.com/IfCty1H.jpeg Mar 20 06:00:40 :) Mar 20 06:07:08 hey bankai_ gotta make one of these http://i.imgur.com/F1SChho.gifv Mar 20 06:08:14 beautiful dog, looks like belgian malinois? Mar 20 06:08:48 Carbonflux do you have a review you need to reply to ? good one or bad one ? Mar 20 06:24:45 Folks, is there any way to force the Genymotion dummy camera to a specific image? Mar 20 06:25:58 I'm attempting to do some protocol analysis on something similar to a QR-code reading app, but it's not playing nice with the camera on my laptop. Mar 20 07:15:38 I found a way to override webview's http client at one point Mar 20 07:15:47 not sure where that link ran off to Mar 20 07:17:25 I want more control than shouldInterceptRequest. because it doesn't include headers etc until API 21 Mar 20 07:43:08 g00s, a mixture of both, mostly just comments about my app, I figured it out tho :) Mar 20 07:44:02 i haven't replied to any of my comments yet Mar 20 07:45:23 I did not for a long time but I was doing an update and also filling out the ratings survey Mar 20 07:45:47 I felt guilt about not relying Mar 20 07:55:22 I try build my App with Qt 5.4.1 for Android with NDK. I got http://pastebin.com/6CU7N1PP any help to fix that ? Mar 20 07:55:44 I use Qt-Creator. Mar 20 08:52:52 people, why SingleThreadScheduledExecutor rejectig my task with this error: http://privatepaste.com/a3fd016c2f Mar 20 08:53:16 executor is empty and just created Mar 20 08:53:40 how do you create the executor Mar 20 08:53:45 also, woo eclipse is starting Mar 20 08:53:57 why Mar 20 08:53:58 private final ScheduledExecutorService mScheduler = Executors.newSingleThreadScheduledExecutor(); Mar 20 08:54:06 Ashiren: careful, it'll use all your RAM Mar 20 08:54:38 and you dont shutdown the executor, do you Mar 20 08:55:07 yes Mar 20 08:55:37 hmm Mar 20 08:56:02 try Executors.newScheduledThreadPool(1) then Mar 20 09:00:39 well, i shutdown it ^) Mar 20 09:00:42 thanks Mar 20 09:04:44 How do I reset leaderboards for my Android game? Mar 20 09:31:55 Anyone have any experience changing the dummy graphic on genymotion's dummy cameras? Mar 20 09:59:23 good morning Mar 20 10:40:33 Is there a good way to draw a view as an overlay on top of any activity in my app? Mar 20 10:42:21 cezium you can add your view to the window... but if you close the activity the view will stay there, is this the effect you want? Why not just use a dialog and call it in every activity when an event happens? Mar 20 10:43:27 I don’t want a blocking UI. Just something global showing that I’m running a background task that will take some time. Mar 20 10:44:05 As an alternative I’m thinking of putting it as an notificaiton but it would be less obvious for the user. Mar 20 10:50:43 A toast? Mar 20 10:52:26 would be good if you could propose() a Toast instead of just show() it. Mar 20 10:57:14 Was thinking of a toast. Mar 20 10:57:35 Is it possible to update a progressbar in a toast after show is called? Mar 20 11:02:21 cezium yes Mar 20 11:11:42 people Mar 20 11:11:43 Hi all. I have a custom view class, using in xlm layout and I see the view (basic just a background color set). But none of the constructors is called / onDraw also not called. What can be the problem? Mar 20 11:12:45 jvrodrigues: are your sure changes to the custom view is reflected after show has been called? Mar 20 11:12:46 START_REDELIVER_INTENT says that it will redeliver intents. So if i will stop service with simply stopSelf() do i have to wait that system will redeliver intent again and restart service? Mar 20 11:14:38 right now it does not restart service, but i dont know if it decide to redeliver intent month later? Mar 20 11:15:16 Cezium keep a reference to your toast, change whatever you want, then call show again Mar 20 11:37:48 just started using the gmaps android SDK. made myself a TileProvider. does anyone know if there is a setting to have gmaps scale tiles from other zoom levels while i prepare the current zoom Mar 20 11:58:14 Anyone have experience setting up a virtual camera to point at a specific image with Genymotion? Mar 20 13:14:13 Hello fellas. Mar 20 13:15:20 aloha Mar 20 13:15:32 So I'm writing some database related thing where some objects get updated sometimes and I was wondering how best to communicate that to the GUI. If I send a broadcast intent with object type and ID list whenever a bulk of objects changes, would I get problems or do broadcasts scale? Mar 20 13:16:14 RedNifre, you could use a bus Mar 20 13:16:28 or contentprovider Mar 20 13:16:55 hm, I have a vague understanding of contentprovider and don't know about bus. Guess I'll look that up. Mar 20 13:17:00 broadcasts should be fine too but i would not recomment them for things that occur every few seconds Mar 20 13:17:11 It's not every few seconds, more every 10 minutes. Mar 20 13:17:31 just go with broadcasts then if you are used tot hem :0 Mar 20 13:17:44 Well, there's no harm in learning something new ;) Mar 20 13:18:19 Currently, it's like this: Fetch data from server, write to DB and RAM, broadcast update, GUI reacts to update and fetches the changed things if it was showing something of that data type. Mar 20 13:18:21 if you use cursors, you dont need any notification mechanism at all Mar 20 13:18:28 they keep track themselves Mar 20 13:18:43 You mean database cursors? Mar 20 13:18:50 yep Mar 20 13:19:03 well, I'm not using the DB directly, there's an object mapper on top. Mar 20 13:19:05 for example a cursor adapter automatically updates the list when database changes Mar 20 13:19:12 ormlite? Mar 20 13:19:15 yes. Mar 20 13:19:34 OrmliteCursoradapter :p Mar 20 13:19:56 that updates itself and you can use it for lists, grids .... stuff like that Mar 20 13:21:15 they arent included in the maven build though (noone knows why). you would have to build ormlite from source for that Mar 20 13:21:32 Well, the data structures involved are a bit special, given that there are lists with over 100000 entries (I know that this is an odd user experience, but the customer is king...) Mar 20 13:21:46 wow :D Mar 20 13:22:07 thats much for android Mar 20 13:22:15 but should not be a problem performance wise Mar 20 13:22:45 Wait, aren't the cursor adaptors synchronous? Mar 20 13:23:19 adapters are always synchronous Mar 20 13:23:27 they need to operate on ui thread Mar 20 13:23:40 but you can load the cursor asynchron Mar 20 13:24:25 Yeah, that's the problem, DB access is too slow in that case. I currently use a custom cache layer that preloads 200 entries in both directions so you can smoothly scroll over them without running into DB accesses. Mar 20 13:25:06 that should not be the case with a cursor no matter if its 10 entries or 10 million Mar 20 13:25:13 But I'll check out content providers, ORMLite cursor adapter and bus... hm, could you give me some more keywords about bus to make sure I'll find the right thing? Mar 20 13:25:29 you load the cursor in an async task, set it to the list in a cursor adapter and it smooth goes over all items then Mar 20 13:25:53 Yeah, that's the problem, you can't have 200000 objects in a list in RAM. Mar 20 13:26:03 why should you want to do this? Mar 20 13:26:49 Maybe I missunderstood you. When does the cursor adapter access the DB? exactly? What happens when you scroll down faster than the DB answers? Mar 20 13:27:03 it caches in a way you are doing it manually atm Mar 20 13:27:13 it loads the first few entries and acts like an iterator Mar 20 13:27:27 once you hit the end, it loads new items from database Mar 20 13:27:36 but in a smooth way you dont have to care about Mar 20 13:29:00 But what happens when you scroll down 100000 entries and scroll up faster than the DB loads? I thought you could not block scrolling when scrolling up? (My custom adapter displays a "Loading" entry in that case while that part of the list gets reloaded). Mar 20 13:30:04 if you do this with a cursor loader and see stutters, they are not from the cursor Mar 20 13:30:17 but from the listview being too slow in getView() Mar 20 13:30:28 because of image loading for example Mar 20 13:30:46 I want to use two views that I can slide to each other as a navigation drawer for example, do you know how i can program that pls ? :) Mar 20 13:30:48 the performance of a cursor usually is by far faster than android can scroll Mar 20 13:30:56 I don't know what class i can use Mar 20 13:31:42 Hm, I guess I should profile my DB accesses then. Or make the objects smaller (They currently contain some data that is not really required for the currentl list entry look) Mar 20 13:31:48 Lern-X, NavigationDrawer Mar 20 13:32:29 RedNifre, you should really try cursors. They are really fast and helpful :) Mar 20 13:32:42 I am having a weird error concerning multi-threading with android and the camera. On my Samsung Galaxy S3 I can take pictures. But on my Epson-BT-200 I receive the following error message: http://pastebin.com/p6Xq2JH5 Mar 20 13:32:50 Thanks danijoo, I will :) Mar 20 13:32:58 danijoo: yes, but the NavigationDrawer is just a menu and I want to be able to customise it as a common view Mar 20 13:33:29 What I do is taking the picture in a new thread. I await the callback of takePicture to spawn in the Main-Thread. Within the callback I let a CountDownLatch countdown. The Thread, I created waits until the picture is taken. Mar 20 13:34:12 tokam GRIS? ;) Mar 20 13:34:37 almost ;) CS is Darmstadt but not GRIS Mar 20 13:34:49 I listened to Stefan Roths lectures. Mar 20 13:34:53 Not sure what the problem is in that case. The only problem I ever had that might be remotely related is that Drawables and/or Bitmaps break when passed across thread borders. Mar 20 13:35:22 But iirc I didn't get an error, instead the images just turned white. Mar 20 13:35:26 RedNifre: how did you assume GIRS? Mar 20 13:35:27 GRIS Mar 20 13:36:00 Lern-X, no its not Mar 20 13:36:20 RedNifre: I must catch the exception and print it out. Mar 20 13:36:22 Lern-X, a NavigationDrawer is just a viewgroup. You can display whatever you want in the view Mar 20 13:36:26 the package name in the error message contains tu-darmstadt and it has to do with taking photos ;) Mar 20 13:37:12 you are from the TU? Mar 20 13:38:15 another darmstädter? that would be funny Mar 20 13:38:20 Is this code with the Looper valid? I had some issues without adding a new handler and starting these looper methods, when in the callback I tryed to call handlers. http://pastebin.com/mYmkneRq Mar 20 13:38:21 we're taking over the channel :D Mar 20 13:42:55 Yeah, let's change the channel language to Hessisch ;) Mar 20 13:43:07 :D Mar 20 13:43:27 I think the issue is, that on the Epson BT my takePicture let's the callback not spawn inside the main thread. Mar 20 13:44:11 is my procedure of opening a thread in java which receives handle posts right? Mar 20 13:53:18 tokam, you are not posing on the main thread Mar 20 13:54:12 what do you mean by that? I assume that due to my fancy logic I am not posting on the main thread, but I do not know, if all function calls of the Looper class, which I made, are right. Mar 20 13:55:06 Looper.prepare() creates the looper for the current Thread Mar 20 13:55:53 try new Handler(Looper.getMainLooper()) Mar 20 13:55:58 and post to that handler Mar 20 13:56:29 In a Debugger I monitored, that the code within the Runnable, which I passed to taskExecutor.execute is not executed. Mar 20 13:56:33 ExecutorService taskExecutor = Executors.newFixedThreadPool(1); Mar 20 13:56:46 I create a new executor within an other executor of the pool-size 1 Mar 20 13:57:43 hm. i never worked with executer honestly? Mar 20 13:57:53 danijoo: The issues with positings occoured (that's why I assumed) by the native methods like mCamera.takePicture or (Toast.makeText(MainActivity.this, "picture taken", Toast.LENGTH_SHORT)).show(); Mar 20 13:58:07 cant you just run it in an async instead of using executor? Mar 20 14:04:28 how do i rotate a drawble i have if the app direction is rtl? Mar 20 14:04:41 danijoo: I am providing an API Mar 20 14:05:12 joroci, have you tried googling it? Mar 20 14:05:17 yes Mar 20 14:05:21 didn't find much info Mar 20 14:05:31 maybe i'm searching for the wrong term Mar 20 14:05:40 joroci, google "android rotate drawable" Mar 20 14:05:41 I wanted to avoid having callbacks all the time, so I planned to start a new thread, where my api's public function is called, and let the thread wait for async calls to finish Mar 20 14:06:56 I assumed takePicture callbacks to spawn in the main thread. Mar 20 14:07:46 tokam, i think they spawn in the thread that you used to start the operation Mar 20 14:07:52 hi, is there any way to show a ripple drawable inside of a ColorStateList ()? Mar 20 14:08:00 on the galaxy s3 they spawn in the main thread Mar 20 14:08:06 oh ok. Mar 20 14:08:19 are you sure its a thread problem at all? Mar 20 14:08:31 danijoo: Is how I prepare the looper, start it and terminate it correct? Mar 20 14:09:31 tokam, the Executor tasks are run in their own thread, correct? Mar 20 14:09:42 if this is the case, your looper is also not in main thread Mar 20 14:09:54 what do you mean by this? Mar 20 14:10:22 I mean you have two options to make a looper Mar 20 14:10:33 Looper.prepare() > this thread Mar 20 14:10:54 Looper.getMainLooper() -> main thread Mar 20 14:11:40 also I just realized you didnt set the looper to the handler Mar 20 14:12:01 how to do that? Mar 20 14:12:21 Looper.myLooper() ? Mar 20 14:12:23 ah nvm Mar 20 14:12:28 you dont have to do that :p Mar 20 14:12:29 my bad Mar 20 14:13:29 so: Handler tHandler = new Handler(Looper.myLooper()); equals Handler tHandler = new Handler(); Mar 20 14:14:20 just forgot whay i said last ^^ Mar 20 14:19:22 If I do have a ExecutorService executor = Executors.newFixedThreadPool(1); Mar 20 14:19:41 and start within it a new pool, will the size get n+m or 1? Mar 20 14:20:08 i never worked with executorservice :/ Mar 20 14:21:47 hi Mar 20 14:22:57 Can I simply start a thread? Mar 20 14:25:08 hy all Mar 20 14:25:28 tokam, sure Mar 20 14:25:30 what is the difference between PowerManager and JobScheduler API? Mar 20 14:25:40 you just dont know if it will finish when app gets minimized ;) Mar 20 14:26:30 Do I know it with an executor? Mar 20 14:26:47 tokam: what about starting async work in an IntentService then have an API level listener block for the return? Mar 20 14:31:48 morning Mar 20 14:32:13 android:showAsAction="always" is not always showing as action... Mar 20 14:32:18 anyone else encountered this? Mar 20 14:33:01 aah missing namespace Mar 20 14:33:09 app:showAsAction-// Mar 20 14:34:11 danijoo: i found a way to do it for api 17+ but what about 15+? Mar 20 14:35:18 joroci, is the drawable in an imagevirew? Mar 20 14:35:24 or in a custom view? Mar 20 14:36:50 imageview Mar 20 14:36:59 use a matrix Mar 20 14:37:46 but how to do it for rtl? Mar 20 14:38:21 i dont understand? does rtl rotates in other dimensions? Mar 20 14:38:42 danijoo: honestly I dislike android development right now Mar 20 14:38:58 danijoo: implementing parcebale and stuff -.- :D Mar 20 14:39:04 for ltr the drawable is fine , i want to rotate only when it's rtl Mar 20 14:39:15 tokam, yeah parcelables suck : Mar 20 14:39:20 Check out Parceler. :) Mar 20 14:39:43 https://github.com/johncarl81/parceler Mar 20 14:40:04 joroci, check if its an RTL locale and rotate Mar 20 14:41:17 so i have to do it programmatically for 15 Mar 20 14:41:19 + Mar 20 14:41:32 boy GCm is hard to get your head around on your first go Mar 20 14:41:39 I got my app working Mar 20 14:41:58 wrapping take picture in a handler, which was associated with the main loop helped. Mar 20 14:43:11 somebody? Mar 20 14:43:28 gregtom6: Didn't Mavrik answer that? Mar 20 14:43:37 Anyone know if GCM rate limits? Mar 20 14:43:39 TacticalJoke: nope Mar 20 14:43:45 eghdk, yep Mar 20 14:44:06 thanks danijoo Mar 20 14:44:42 Mavrik: I've looked up answers on stack overflow but they seem to point to obsolete resources. Can you recall these limits, or possibly help me find the appropriate docs? Mar 20 14:45:11 eghdk, hmm, I don't think they're documented, but you'll definetly start getting error messages from Google server if you do it too fast Mar 20 14:45:21 also I think 100 stored messages per client is the limit as well Mar 20 14:45:35 yeah and they also limit client side Mar 20 14:45:42 Mavrik: Error on my server implementations or client side? Mar 20 14:45:51 eghdk, on the server of course Mar 20 14:45:58 so even if the client receives every message, you cant send one guy 500 msg Mar 20 14:46:16 just making sure, because on SO it says that after you hit a limit the client will recieve a message Mar 20 14:46:22 that the limit was hit Mar 20 14:48:38 eghdk, hrmf Mar 20 14:48:43 so? Mar 20 14:48:47 That doesn't make alot of sense :) Mar 20 14:49:22 gregtom6, your question is as nonsensical as it was yesterday still :) Mar 20 14:49:49 You're asking what the difference between a dog and a spoon is. Mar 20 14:50:14 Mavrik: "Note: There is a limit on how many messages can be stored without collapsing. That limit is currently 100. If the limit is reached, all stored messages are discarded. Then when the device is back online, it receives a special message indicating that the limit was reached. The application can then handle the situation properly, typically by requesting a full sync." Mar 20 14:50:15 Mavrik: but why? because I can see on them they're both for energy management Mar 20 14:50:29 eghdk, yeah they removed that Mar 20 14:50:35 eghdk, and there's no mention of it in the doc either Mar 20 14:51:08 Okay, thanks, I just wanted someone else to make sure I wasn't crazy. Mar 20 14:52:02 Mavrik: hmm? Mar 20 14:52:24 gregtom6, while the side effect might be better energy management, they don't do the same thing Mar 20 14:52:51 Mavrik: then describe me what does one of them and what does the other Mar 20 14:52:51 PowerManager is API that lets apps manipulate and read the power state of the device Mar 20 14:53:16 JobScheduler lets apps schedule periodic or later jobs like sync, background updates, etc. Mar 20 14:53:39 Mavrik: I see Mar 20 14:53:59 JobScheduler API probably uses PowerManager internally to grab wakelocks and determine power state of when to run the jobs Č= Mar 20 14:54:01 :) Mar 20 14:56:08 I have been spending lot of time on a seemingly simple issue. Please refer to my code here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29169340/linearlayout-weightsum-not-working-as-expected Mar 20 14:56:41 I want the initial View in my layout to take only 1/20th of the screen. But it is taking almost 80% Mar 20 14:57:00 Can't identify what I am doing wrong in WeightSum Mar 20 14:58:37 2 views, don't use weightsum, give one item 4 weight, the other 1 Mar 20 14:58:54 you have one view at 80% and the other 20 Mar 20 14:59:06 done Mar 20 14:59:30 of course width or height should be 0 as necessary Mar 20 15:01:41 @pfn Sorry but I think I could not convey my need properly Mar 20 15:02:22 Actually the View that is the first child to linear layout should be only 1/20th of the screen as it is having a wieght of 2 of total 40 Mar 20 15:02:35 But right now it is taking 80% of the screen Mar 20 15:02:41 then 1 and 19 Mar 20 15:02:51 I actually want it to be only a thin strip Mar 20 15:06:54 but in reality you probably don't want 5% Mar 20 15:08:40 Yeah, having a full layout defined with % seems funny to me too Mar 20 15:08:45 You practically never want that. Mar 20 15:09:07 looks bad on tablets as well Mar 20 15:10:06 This layout is not to be set as content view of any activity Mar 20 15:10:26 is ResourceCursorAdapter deprecated, or just one constructor of it, will it always load cursor data on the UI thread? Mar 20 15:10:30 This is to be inflated to a custom view to an adapter Mar 20 15:11:05 I still could not figure out the mistake I am commiting Mar 20 15:13:04 AS on mac should have used Cmd + R to run apps. People who uses xcode gets cofused. :) Mar 20 15:13:41 napster, then remap it Mar 20 15:13:56 ok Mar 20 15:14:27 also, when using a CursorAdapter to populate a ListView, when is it best to close the cursor...when the ListView fragment is no longer in view? Mar 20 15:14:32 as its easy to customize keymaps in as Mar 20 15:14:55 Actually you can copy the Mac OSX10+ keymap as it is in one click Mar 20 15:15:11 I did for myself anyway Mar 20 15:16:05 cool feature that is Mar 20 15:29:42 just to make sure I'm not wasting time, there is not native Android class that easily supports displaying gifs is there? Mar 20 15:30:03 s/not/no/ Mar 20 15:31:06 I can see gifs are listed as a supported codec in the decoding column here, http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html Mar 20 15:31:26 i dont think they play... Mar 20 15:31:26 But don't see a reference any actual interface to it Mar 20 15:31:34 Have tried using video views? I'm not quite sure they work. Mar 20 15:31:35 i might be wrong Mar 20 15:32:05 I have it going in a WebView right now :P it's working decent enough, just need to find the height of the gif in the webview to wrap the container around it Mar 20 15:32:09 android.graphics.Movie Mar 20 15:32:11 try that class Mar 20 15:32:18 short sample here Mar 20 15:32:18 https://code.google.com/p/apidemos/source/browse/trunk/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/graphics/BitmapDecode.java#103 Mar 20 15:32:27 not much other documentation though Mar 20 15:32:56 I would decompose it into frame and use an animation-list if it isnt too small Mar 20 15:33:26 *large Mar 20 15:33:39 if it is too large you might hit OOMException Mar 20 15:33:55 in which case you might be better off animating it, depengin on what it is Mar 20 15:33:56 I'm getting these gifs from a backend, so I would have to do frame-by-frame composition runtime if I wanted to do that Mar 20 15:34:13 oh nasty.. yea, that won’t work Mar 20 15:34:19 try the movie class Mar 20 15:50:02 PSA - when you have to compare views form XML, compare their ID, not their tag. Mar 20 15:54:34 has anyone here ever used Venmo with their app? Mar 20 15:54:59 Hi Mar 20 15:55:03 How can I get the width of a view that is using layout_weight? Mar 20 15:55:23 In this case is an ImageView and getMeasuredWidth() returns the width of the image Mar 20 15:55:38 layoutparams? Mar 20 15:55:42 papipo: I do that in my app with a ViewTreeObserver. Mar 20 15:55:50 I have to wait till the ImageView has been laid out. Mar 20 15:56:06 oh yeah. I ran into that issue with gravity as well Mar 20 15:56:15 and animating views.. their layout ghosts were still there Mar 20 15:56:19 I need to set the height keeping the aspect ratio Mar 20 15:56:31 i have an ArrayList in my Activity that has 3 items when onPause() is called, and it's cleared out when onStop() is called. does anyone know why? Mar 20 15:56:34 otherwise my list rows are squished until the images are drawn Mar 20 15:56:39 and then stretched Mar 20 15:56:52 seand: Activities are destroyed upon screen rotation. All (instance) fields will go down with it. Mar 20 15:56:54 I just want them to have their final size when initially drawn Mar 20 15:56:55 put in a dummy view the same height as your vimageview Mar 20 15:57:00 But this is if onDestroy happens (not just onStop). Mar 20 15:57:16 TacticalJoke: this isn't on screen rotation, this is on navigation to another activity Mar 20 15:57:17 make that dummy view invisible Mar 20 15:57:19 not gone Mar 20 15:57:27 way to the side with width = 0dp Mar 20 15:57:29 or 1dp Mar 20 15:57:30 seand: Is Activity.onDestroy being called? Mar 20 15:57:30 onDestroy doesn't get called Mar 20 15:57:33 Okay. Mar 20 15:57:58 so I force the parent height to be at least that height, ok Mar 20 15:58:04 seand: How are you verifying that the list is cleared? Mar 20 15:58:08 but why can't I do that with the ImageView directly? Mar 20 15:58:26 i'm putting a breakpoint inside onPause and onStop and examining the list Mar 20 15:59:01 seand: Weird. Are you sure you're not clearing the list, reassigning the reference, or something like that? Mar 20 15:59:22 seand, code or it didnt happen ;) Mar 20 15:59:32 TacticalJoke: yeah, i should double-check that... Mar 20 15:59:37 Code or it's a feature, not a bug. :D Mar 20 16:00:13 Can anyone recommend a payment service for use in an app? Mar 20 16:00:29 t0astt: Don't you *have* to use Google Wallet? Mar 20 16:00:41 If it's going on Google Play, I mean. Mar 20 16:01:04 TacticalJoke: Uhm, maybe? I'm not sure. I was just looking to facilitate person-to-person transfers within my app Mar 20 16:01:17 not in-app purchases or anything Mar 20 16:01:28 TacticalJoke, only if its user to developer transfer afaik Mar 20 16:01:31 TacticalJoke: ah okay, it was something my code was doing... oops. can this ArrayList be cleaned up by Android when the Activity is stopped, though? should i be persisting it somewhere? Mar 20 16:01:44 TacticalJoke: that requirement is only for content deployed through Play Store Mar 20 16:01:51 seand, yes. use onSavedInstanceState Mar 20 16:02:02 thanks danijoo Mar 20 16:02:07 p_l: Ah, okay. Mar 20 16:02:08 danijoo, so if I"m just facilitating person-to-person transfer through my app, I don't have to use GWallet? Mar 20 16:02:25 I think you dont Mar 20 16:02:30 ok Mar 20 16:02:33 seand: Note that you can test this by rotating the screen (as long as you haven't disabled normal configuration changes). Mar 20 16:02:33 but i didnt read the TOS in that detail Mar 20 16:02:40 so dont sue me when you get banned :p Mar 20 16:03:15 TacticalJoke: rotation is actually working fine, because i'm preserving the state in onSaveInstanceState and restoring in onCreate. but onCreate isn't called when the Activity is restarted Mar 20 16:03:33 Yeah, onCreate will be called only when you have a new Activity instance. Mar 20 16:04:04 seand: You only need to worry about it in onCreate because if Android has killed your stopped Activity it will be recreated through onCreate anyway Mar 20 16:04:33 g1bbs: ah, okay... thanks Mar 20 16:04:37 um no Mar 20 16:04:49 g1bbs, not really Mar 20 16:04:53 your state can get restored :) Mar 20 16:05:03 gah, misread, sorry Mar 20 16:05:15 * ravilov hands Mavrik more coffee Mar 20 16:05:16 anyway, proper way to test that is to enable "Don't keep activities" in developer options and doing orientation changes. Mar 20 16:05:19 danijoo: I don't see why these companies would create Android APIs for their services if they WEREN'T allowed though... ? Mar 20 16:05:22 g1bbs: so i guess i should stop manually clearing my list in onSaveInstanceState :) Mar 20 16:05:41 anyone need a .gitignore? Mar 20 16:05:49 Every developer should do that before release in their app, shows alot of hidden bugs concerning restoration states Mar 20 16:06:21 t0astt, paypal library was released and google banned kinda all apps using it once Mar 20 16:06:25