**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 16 02:59:59 2015 Apr 16 03:00:02 the highest is generally supported automagically, with a small amount of work here and there (or a complete redesign, whatever you please) Apr 16 03:00:50 JesusFreke: this background is quite trippy. thanks for reminding me :) Apr 16 03:01:07 groxx: haha, glad you like! Apr 16 03:01:14 that one was a fun one to make Apr 16 03:01:39 it was pretty challenging figuring out how to generate the tiling in such a way that you could continuously scroll in any direction Apr 16 03:01:49 it's so smooth. your eyes are kinda forced to follow it, it's disorienting :D Apr 16 03:02:06 groxx: I love the multi-touch stuff too Apr 16 03:02:21 just something about the way it follows your fingers as you rotate, etc. Apr 16 03:02:51 yeah. so few backgrounds do anything like that :| Apr 16 03:06:35 if you're irc'ing on your device, you can click penroser://preference?left_skinny_color=0x586e75&right_skinny_color=0x73642&left_fat_color=0x73642&right_fat_color=0x586e75&scale=1.9639553 for my current (dark solarized inspired) color scheme Apr 16 03:06:59 hmm, maybe. my (non-device) irc client didn't want to linkify that. Apr 16 03:07:01 * JesusFreke shrugs Apr 16 03:17:38 Hey guys! Apr 16 03:18:45 I've got an app suspended for a stupid reason, and they won't bring it back. the account is ok, but now I want to upload a new app but I'm afraid that the whole account gets suspended in the future Apr 16 03:19:03 should I create a new account with the same credit card? is that even possible? Apr 16 03:19:34 what's your expirience? maybe if I have two accounts with the same CC only one of them gets suspended, but I'm not sure how it works Apr 16 03:20:48 gets suspended because of the first or because of the new app? Apr 16 03:21:16 the first app Apr 16 03:21:51 I updated it and they didn't like a screenshot, it was my fault though because I didn't check it, it was against their policy u.u Apr 16 03:22:17 thats hardly a 'ban your account' offense Apr 16 03:22:34 I know, but it's a "strike" as they call it I think Apr 16 03:22:50 you're probably more likely to get banned for having multiple accounts :) Apr 16 03:22:51 I prefer to upload this new app in a whole new place Apr 16 03:23:02 well, that's why I'm asking. isn't it legal? :( Apr 16 03:23:17 I couldn't find much information on that Apr 16 03:24:21 well if you want to be sure, (1) read the terms and conditions, developer agreements, etc, front to back and (2) just email Play support and ask for their blessing Apr 16 03:24:24 it makes sense to have multiple accounts. a company which develop different kinds of apps would be interested in having more than one Apr 16 03:27:18 oh, and btw, last question! Apr 16 03:27:50 do you guys know any way to enable in app purchases from outside the US? Apr 16 03:28:25 outside the US is not the issue, perhaps your specific country is? Apr 16 03:28:27 (it probably works for Europe as well, but not here) Apr 16 03:28:33 yep Apr 16 03:28:40 there's a list of countries somewhere Apr 16 03:28:51 and if your country is not on there, there is little you can do Apr 16 03:28:59 aside from having an account by proxy Apr 16 03:29:14 I tried, they use other kind of config to know where you are Apr 16 03:29:20 probably your credit card or something Apr 16 03:30:08 I don't mean via VPN Apr 16 03:30:15 I mean have someone in another country create the account for you Apr 16 03:30:30 oh, ok, yeah. that would work Apr 16 03:30:31 that also makes them responsible and get your money though :P Apr 16 03:31:25 this saddens me Apr 16 03:31:30 i cannot change my fabric.io email Apr 16 03:36:49 JesusFreke: yeah, mine didn't either :/ Apr 16 03:37:03 JesusFreke: linkify, that is Apr 16 03:37:54 does "compile project(':project')" usually work to import a local library project? Apr 16 03:46:50 drinfernoo it should work if they day of the week is odd Apr 16 03:47:20 or it's the second tuesday of the month Apr 16 03:49:43 JesusFreke so how come no android powered unicycle consortium ? Apr 16 03:50:20 g00s: they won't let me. something about niche markets blah blah. :( Apr 16 04:00:14 JesusFreke looks cool http://www.wsj.com/articles/cyclings-bradley-wiggins-to-make-attempt-at-one-hour-record-1429114606 Apr 16 04:00:27 if you try it, you'll need those aerodynamic discs though Apr 16 04:04:07 do stubbed void methods (via mockito) ALWAYS doNothing the first time they are invoked? Apr 16 04:06:40 the opening picture looks like a man with helmetting chilling pensively on some form of modern art Apr 16 04:07:07 *helmet Apr 16 04:08:57 groxx, http://cdn.meme.am/instances/31675024.jpg Apr 16 04:11:03 I swear I've tried everything I can think of Apr 16 04:12:51 JesusFreke also wouldn't hurt to have airfoil like seatpost too, like that bike ^ Apr 16 04:18:39 I would get a record-breaking 14 miles or so :p Apr 16 04:23:22 JesusFreke, ever had problems with "attribute has already been defined"? Apr 16 04:24:26 drinfernoo: context? Apr 16 04:26:19 I'm trying to use appcompat-v7:22.0.0, but almost every single attribute from appcompat errors, saying "attribute *** has already been defined". i believe its because some of my dependencies are dependent on appcompat-v7:21.0.3, but I can't override them :( Apr 16 04:26:20 <_genuser_> OMG visual studio has spoiled me in debugging. Apr 16 04:26:33 or Apr 16 04:26:41 idk how to override them Apr 16 04:26:49 or something Apr 16 04:26:56 yeah, no clue. sorry :) Apr 16 04:26:58 <_genuser_> eclipse is like a toddler trying to compete in a free sprint at the olympics Apr 16 04:27:09 damn Apr 16 04:27:22 g00s? Apr 16 04:27:24 lol Apr 16 04:30:04 drinfernoo you will have to resolve the correct appcompat - can't grap 22.0.0 and 22.0.3 Apr 16 04:30:21 grap? Apr 16 04:30:58 grab Apr 16 04:30:59 some of my dependencies use 21.0.3, and some use 22.0.0... I didn't even know there was a 22.0.3 yet lol Apr 16 04:31:05 ohh Apr 16 04:32:10 you'll find the answer in the encyclopedia of gradle, Vol 12, page 30967 Apr 16 04:33:14 http://java.dzone.com/articles/gradle-overruling-third-party Apr 16 04:34:03 And the Lord spake, saying - first, shalt though take out thy holy dependency. Then, shalt thou count to 3, no more, no less. Apr 16 04:36:05 g00s, I read that :( hold on, I'll paste my build.gradle's Apr 16 04:36:18 drinfernoo lol nooo ... Apr 16 04:36:36 i'm terrible fixing gradle problems, i just leave it alone mostly Apr 16 04:36:43 fuuuuu lol Apr 16 04:37:14 I tried to do what that link said, in my top-level gradle file, but it didn't do anything lol Apr 16 04:37:19 you counted to 5, didn't you? that's right out. Apr 16 04:37:26 heh Apr 16 04:37:34 JesusFreke, I counted to 4 :( Apr 16 04:37:46 because that's how many hundred errors I have Apr 16 04:38:07 drinfernoo you must throw the grenade at the bad dependency, being naughty in His sight , which will snuff it Apr 16 04:41:27 i Apr 16 04:41:37 don't know what that means Apr 16 04:41:37 lol Apr 16 04:42:01 !! Apr 16 04:42:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk Apr 16 04:44:48 Would it be a bad idea to just dump all the icons from the Google Material Icons project in my resource directory and use them when I need them? I don't suppose there's an intelligent asset packaging system that determines if a drawable is used...? Apr 16 04:47:14 dammit Apr 16 04:49:24 JesusFreke "In Apple Inc.'s iOS system, Siri may say that the "Rabbit of Caerbannog" is its favorite animal when asked." Apr 16 04:49:34 haha Apr 16 04:53:14 JesusFreke i thought somewhere that they doused the rabit in some dye or whatever, and couldn't get it out again Apr 16 04:54:51 blood red dye :) Apr 16 05:00:36 Anyone here use pocket git? Apr 16 05:13:29 is GCM available for all devices? should I consider cases in which an app can be subscribed to GCM? Apr 16 05:17:08 Not available on all devices (e.g. Amazon) Apr 16 05:17:26 ronkrt, for what? Apr 16 05:17:34 nvm Apr 16 05:18:59 <_genuser_> man, made some headway with my app yesterday. it's sounding fun now. Apr 16 05:19:23 <_genuser_> but debugging on eclipse is a little slow. :) Apr 16 05:19:46 <_genuser_> anybody else working on something fun? Apr 16 05:21:51 android wear apps ? Apr 16 05:22:26 their fun Apr 16 05:22:51 <_genuser_> hmm, I don't have a wear gadget so I can't really code and try out an app. Apr 16 05:23:02 <_genuser_> but I guess it might be fun to code some apps for it. Apr 16 05:23:45 yup couldn't hurt Apr 16 05:24:16 just got a moto 360 Apr 16 05:24:53 <_genuser_> this guy I was talking to mentioned he bought this samsung gadget that pairs with his phone. but can also take it's own SIM card. Apr 16 05:25:14 <_genuser_> but thsi thing doesn't sync with a bluetooth ear piece so if you answer a call on it, it's star trek style, open communication. Apr 16 05:25:42 so I'm learning but first new toilet bowl wax ring needs installed Apr 16 05:31:49 interesting, so Android's DecimalFormat is enhanced over oracles Apr 16 05:33:16 * g00s <3 significant figures addition Apr 16 05:38:34 <_genuser_> lol, their documentation is also. Apr 16 05:42:41 _genuser_ not sure what got into them, thats rare Apr 16 05:48:55 <_genuser_> tjhink its more that oracle has stopped doing new stuff since late 90s Apr 16 05:50:12 guess she liked me tho, used to drive me around Apr 16 06:04:42 can I just clarify that I've got this right? to simply test an in app product, I have to 1. Create a Google+ community for the app. 2. Invite an account to it other than my developer one. And it has to be on another real device. 3. Invite that Google+ community to the alpha channel Apr 16 06:05:25 if so, how can they expect that everyone has easy access to another device? and why do I have to use google+, can't I just enter an email address? and why can't it be my own? Apr 16 06:06:06 test in app product, or in app purchase? Apr 16 06:07:30 what is the difference? Apr 16 06:07:49 but probably purchase. it's a "remove ads" $1 IAP. Apr 16 06:07:52 didn't know if you were saying to just have someone test your product, meaning your app Apr 16 06:08:26 duncannz: IAP is a pain Apr 16 06:08:35 and yes that is basically the process Apr 16 06:09:24 although the g+ community i dont think you need to do Apr 16 06:09:28 http://developer.android.com/google/play/billing/billing_testing.html#test-purchases} Apr 16 06:11:20 <_genuser_> OMG the static vars in my app and the cross activity/service/activity/service function calling! Apr 16 06:11:26 <_genuser_> it's already looking so clutterred Apr 16 06:11:50 what kinda static vars Apr 16 06:12:02 _genuser_ that doesn't sound good Apr 16 06:12:04 _genuser_: what are you doing? Apr 16 06:23:08 <_genuser_> g00s: unfortunately, do accomodate the android application model, you end up having to write pretty complicated setups. Apr 16 06:23:25 that ... is true. lots of accidental complexity Apr 16 06:23:37 <_genuser_> add in to that the fact, that I didn't know some of the stuff before and learned while doing it Apr 16 06:23:53 <_genuser_> that means, my own lack of experience and knowledge then leads to additional complexity. Apr 16 06:24:33 i think my app is actually pretty trivial conceptually, but 95% of the complexity is because ... android. i plan on porting to windows phone, so it will be interesting to see how much easier it is there Apr 16 06:25:10 <_genuser_> so mainactivity.StaticVar is initiated over the web in onCreate. then second activity is launched, when you back out of second activity, first activity is launched again and onCreate is called. Apr 16 06:25:41 <_genuser_> so I'm now trying to see if the StaticVar retains it's value since it's static and should be around while app is loaded. Apr 16 06:25:52 _genuser_ thats a bad idea ;) Apr 16 06:26:01 desmin88: yeah I added a test email address to Settings->Account Details but then that page says: "Previously, you could publish a "draft" version of your app for testing. This functionality is no longer supported.[...] You can publish an app to the alpha or beta distribution channels.". And an alpha distribution channel can only be targeted to a Google+ community, not individual emails. Apr 16 06:26:51 I know there's nothing that can be done to change it, it's just a real nuisance. Nobody wants to use g+ and the process for testing a simple in app purchase is way too convoluted. Apr 16 06:27:43 <_genuser_> g00s: well, that's some time intensive stuff that I'd rather just do once for the app, especially since it doesn't change. Apr 16 06:28:11 <_genuser_> g00s: I could just subclass Application and create an "application level var", or just put it as static in mainactivity. Apr 16 06:28:24 <_genuser_> g00s: you think that's bad? You got another approach to suggest? Apr 16 06:29:36 setup interfaces or callbacks or broadcast or binds to service or fragments or quite a few ways, but you'd have to detail the data being exchanged Apr 16 06:30:15 <_genuser_> whatitis-: was taht for my app? Apr 16 06:30:27 yeah Apr 16 06:30:44 <_genuser_> whatitis-: well, I'm not passing it back and forth as using it everywhere application wide. Apr 16 06:30:57 then why are you keeping them in the scope of all Apr 16 06:31:31 <_genuser_> webdata (long to retrieve and process @4seconds per request). it's initialized in mainactivity as static var. then everything else can use it all over. Apr 16 06:31:49 <_genuser_> however, I was thinking of moving to the application scope as application var. since it doesn't change much once it's downloaded. Apr 16 06:31:59 just use a service or intent service to fetch, then broadcast to whom ever is listening Apr 16 06:32:49 <_genuser_> well, per my understanding that works when someone requests work and may or may not be around to hear the results. Apr 16 06:33:05 <_genuser_> this is more of a get it once and store it so any activity in the app can use it for the entire app run. Apr 16 06:33:23 a service sounds good for that Apr 16 06:33:32 anyone can bind, or request data from it Apr 16 06:34:11 <_genuser_> ok, so please explain to me the process flow here. app starts, main activity sends request to the service to fetch data? Apr 16 06:34:27 <_genuser_> service fetches and sends broadcast to whoeveer's listening? Apr 16 06:34:56 app starts, if wanting fresh data, startService, then if wanting to bindService, you can send intent data with startService to specify request Apr 16 06:35:15 any other started activites can bind to service as well, and get whatever it needs Apr 16 06:35:54 <_genuser_> right, but once the service is done retrieving.... it stores is somewhere and broadcasts to listeners that data is ready? Apr 16 06:36:04 you can send a broadcast, or if an activity binds you can setup communications, there are many ways to communicate activity/service, but sounds like you atleast want service todo work and have it handy Apr 16 06:36:18 the service can stay running as a data hub Apr 16 06:36:25 you can kill it whenever Apr 16 06:36:47 <_genuser_> I see, so the service can stay running and maintain a copy of the data then. is that it? Apr 16 06:36:51 if no more activities are bound can kill it, or if stopService() or stopSelf from within after receiving command etc Apr 16 06:37:04 it can persist the life of app Apr 16 06:37:13 and stay off ui thread for work and for data Apr 16 06:37:32 and then you do the lolcycle dance ... Apr 16 06:37:34 cha cha cha Apr 16 06:37:45 <_genuser_> cha cha Apr 16 06:37:53 <_genuser_> ok, so this sounds like standard service and not IntentService. Apr 16 06:37:54 mix some bat brains with dandelions Apr 16 06:38:14 IntentService is more for repeat use, Service is for constant Apr 16 06:38:38 like an AsyncTask intentService is for shooting off events Apr 16 06:39:04 <_genuser_> I have one IntentService implemented. I use it for data packing. when all the images and expense data is ready, I call the IntentService to pack it all in a standard binary format (app specific) and store it for upload to server later. Apr 16 06:39:21 exactly a shoot off event Apr 16 06:39:48 pull.....bang Apr 16 06:39:52 <_genuser_> so it seems, then, that I need to look into a service and have it run and maintain a copy of the data. Apr 16 06:40:11 sure, or if not much activity switching can keep a headless fragment Apr 16 06:40:41 <_genuser_> now, one problem that I notice with all these service that android team has designed. Actually passing data around is still done via intents and if you obj can't be serialized, you basically can't. Apr 16 06:40:59 _genuser_, that isn't the only way Apr 16 06:41:18 <_genuser_> so a service maintains an object, how would one request a copy of the obj for example? Apr 16 06:41:18 binding gives you are pretty handy method of data dealing, and there are other ways Apr 16 06:41:32 get a copy of the service and read the object Apr 16 06:41:55 <_genuser_> ok, so 1) service, 2) binding... few things to research. but it sounds like it will be nicer once implemented. Apr 16 06:41:57 or have that service pass the object to a handler that was registered on whatever activity you want Apr 16 06:42:14 just read up on service and communication, there are many ways todo it Apr 16 06:42:36 <_genuser_> having done less of the handler, broadcast type stuff, I get a little lost in terminology. but I think once I've done it a bit, it will be easier to follow Apr 16 06:42:59 yeah repeat use will give you a better understanding Apr 16 06:43:28 <_genuser_> because I'm getting tired of static vars on main activity - which should remain initialized for duration of app, technically. but it's getting annoying to reference mainactivity all over. Apr 16 06:43:59 and know that when an activity starts, calling startService or bindService on an already running service doesn't cause more instances, it just updates the onStartCommand with whatever intent you send, so it's easy to communicate without worrying about state Apr 16 06:45:06 <_genuser_> nice. sounds like the only hit would be actual fetch time. 4 seconds on s4, and 4.5 on noteII. Apr 16 06:45:30 bah, just use callbacks and keep good placeloaders til your data arrives Apr 16 06:46:17 just don't expect to block while getting data, keep things still alive, and keep things showing progress Apr 16 06:46:47 <_genuser_> yeah, I got that part done for the saving files bit, where I use IntentService and send off work and continue with app. Apr 16 06:47:08 <_genuser_> altho, I kinda cheated there and stored a .count static var on IntentService to track how many jobs are in progress. Apr 16 06:47:50 <_genuser_> I know it sounds like I love static vars, but I've used them more in 1yr of android dev than I used them in 15 years of non-android dev Apr 16 06:55:51 <_genuser_> wait wait wait, when flipping back from a second activity you launched, the first activity's oncreate is not called again? interesting. Apr 16 07:00:32 _genuser_: you need the basics, look at the android activity lifecycle diagram in the docs Apr 16 07:00:59 _genuser_: also consider a singleton and a message bus...there is a concept of an application as well as activities Apr 16 07:01:18 don't use singletons to store state that should be saved though Apr 16 07:05:24 Is there a shortcut to shuffle through active window in AS? like move from Editor to Project View to Active Tool Windows like Android DDMS. Apr 16 07:07:30 <_genuser_> myke: tbh, I've been that thing tons of times, it's like the java applet lifecyle. pointless and overly complicated. I keep forgetting. Apr 16 07:07:42 <_genuser_> s/been/seen/ Apr 16 07:08:22 <_genuser_> I am reading about the service now tho. seems like a sticky service that runs and keeps the data would be pretty useful. it can also be used to manipulate the data - fetch, update, store to disk, etc. Apr 16 07:10:09 <_genuser_> one step forward, two backwards. :) instead of adding new functionality, I'm already refactoring the existing codebase. Apr 16 07:10:18 <_genuser_> but once it's done, it should be much much cleaner and easier to maintain. Apr 16 07:26:04 is it bad to have multiple canvases on one screen? (mixed with some linearlayouts) Apr 16 07:26:15 maybe better to ake it just one big canvas and draw everything? Apr 16 07:26:46 =) Apr 16 07:34:44 thepoosh ! Apr 16 07:36:00 g00s: ! Apr 16 07:36:03 sup dude? Apr 16 07:36:24 thepoosh hm, fighting the fight Apr 16 07:36:24 my boss just got here, soon sync and I'll know more about the new version publish date Apr 16 07:36:32 you go girl! Apr 16 07:36:47 lol Apr 16 07:37:28 i found something that pisses me off in AS Apr 16 07:37:57 take 10 minutes to build ? Apr 16 07:38:09 nah, doesn't worry me yet Apr 16 07:38:19 didn't start working with big projects Apr 16 07:38:29 i'm using 1.2 and having tons of problems Apr 16 07:38:39 so use 1.1 if you can Apr 16 07:38:44 is that the beta/canary versions? Apr 16 07:38:53 its dev/beta/canary atm Apr 16 07:38:59 oh, mine is 1.1 Apr 16 07:39:08 stupid thing isn't generating R files, Apr 16 07:39:10 I don't care for being a tester at the moment Apr 16 07:39:13 oh Apr 16 07:39:14 sux Apr 16 07:39:23 like that shit we used to deal with in 2009 Apr 16 07:39:29 hmmmm Apr 16 07:39:37 have you tried deleting your gen folder :P Apr 16 07:40:01 i'm seeing 2 problems. 1 - R.java isn't being created Apr 16 07:40:17 or 2 - its being created, but stuff i add in the xml editors, isn't being added to it Apr 16 07:40:22 like ids, etc Apr 16 07:40:38 i filed a bug, i think it got ignored Apr 16 07:41:07 <_genuser_> g00s: so you're just hanging out here in the middle of the night? Apr 16 07:41:15 no working Apr 16 07:41:17 bleh Apr 16 07:41:27 so have 2 working AS Apr 16 07:41:37 one with the stable one and the other as canary Apr 16 07:41:54 <_genuser_> g00s: in the U.S? Apr 16 07:41:58 yeah Apr 16 07:42:39 <_genuser_> wow, you're working late in the night. Apr 16 07:42:49 almost bedtime when poosh comes along Apr 16 07:42:58 wat?! Apr 16 07:42:59 <_genuser_> oh, he's your reliever? Apr 16 07:43:02 lol Apr 16 07:43:05 it's 10:42 A.M. Apr 16 07:43:12 poosh is on the other side of the world Apr 16 07:43:21 GMT+2.00 Apr 16 07:43:43 <_genuser_> oh you and your knowlegeable ness. Apr 16 07:43:47 <_genuser_> gmt+2!! Apr 16 07:43:57 does anyone have a clue about this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29658528/how-to-update-third-party-widgets-at-boot-completed ? Just down know what i can do anymore ;( Apr 16 07:44:24 gmt means goos mean time Apr 16 07:44:56 <_genuser_> is that when g00s goes mean? Apr 16 07:45:08 :D Apr 16 07:45:12 <_genuser_> I'm reading aobut the service stuff now man. Apr 16 07:45:37 <_genuser_> it will really speed up my start up time. but I will have to track when the data is actually ready so people can launch the app but not do anything that requires the data Apr 16 07:55:19 is anyone in the mood to read a SO question i posted? :D Apr 16 07:56:31 Hey, I want to make it so when the user clicks a button it calls a phone number but the number is hidden and they cannot see it in the outgoing call history or when it's calling. Is that possible? Apr 16 07:56:47 Qlue sounds pretty shady Apr 16 07:56:52 hopefully not Apr 16 07:56:54 It's not shady Apr 16 07:56:57 but Apr 16 07:57:05 its not for an app store application Apr 16 07:57:09 you can't dial a call programatically Apr 16 07:57:12 its for a private company Apr 16 07:57:19 Quintasan, if you're rooted you can do anything Apr 16 07:57:21 you can do it with iOS Apr 16 07:57:23 all you can do is send an intent to the dialer with the #, the user has to finish it Apr 16 07:57:24 Qlue, that is Apr 16 07:58:01 iprime: it's possible on a rooted phone? Apr 16 07:58:53 not directly, but with some work, why not Apr 16 07:59:00 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29664193/nullpointerexception-when-onloadfinished-callback-is-reached Apr 16 07:59:08 tho you have to sort of create a custom "ROM" Apr 16 07:59:17 iprime i wouldn't be able to use android? Apr 16 07:59:37 Qlue, what do you mean? Apr 16 07:59:58 in iOS you can do this with the "tel://" string, Apr 16 08:00:07 vs the "telprompt://"" Apr 16 08:01:25 Qlue, you can do that in ANdroid but the Dialer screen will be shown Apr 16 08:01:47 Pwnies looks like your cursoradapter is trying to get a column that isn't in the result set Apr 16 08:01:47 and the number will be in the call history? Apr 16 08:02:18 hm. i swear i set it to grab my years column Apr 16 08:02:36 Pwnies try something like this to see whats going on http://developer.android.com/reference/android/database/DatabaseUtils.html#dumpCursor(android.database.Cursor) Apr 16 08:02:41 Pwnies, don't pass null for "from", pass an empty array Apr 16 08:03:05 iprime can i pm you? Apr 16 08:05:09 Pwnies, that's the param before 'toViews' / SimpleCursorAdapter Apr 16 08:05:42 k, filling a log.d with the dumpCursorToString g00s Apr 16 08:06:00 k iprime, working on it Apr 16 08:10:28 hm. iprime, that got rid of my nullpointerexception, but my cursorloader still isn't populating my spinners Apr 16 08:14:06 iprime, if you want to submit an answer to SO, i'll mark it as the answer. It did get rid of my NPE Apr 16 08:15:20 Pwnies, that's becauuse you pass an empty array (as I've suggested), you should probably also include the column names that are to be mapped to the views Apr 16 08:18:28 so instead of an empty array, pass an array containing the pointer to the column year? Apr 16 08:18:48 an array containing the names of the columns Apr 16 08:18:52 just as in your projection Apr 16 08:18:53 anyone use phonegap? can it write native android code Apr 16 08:19:09 because that's what you wanna show, right? Apr 16 08:20:40 I want to show all the values in a column containing years Apr 16 08:20:53 so, from 1970-2015 Apr 16 08:21:30 i passed an array containing the column name to no avail sadly Apr 16 08:22:39 additionally, the db is being populated by a service calling an api Apr 16 08:23:42 the db is empty on app launch Apr 16 08:24:37 you're binding to 2 views, so why just one column? Apr 16 08:24:40 oh Apr 16 08:24:55 they're both getting the same values Apr 16 08:30:04 what do you think about scala for android development? Apr 16 08:34:43 iprime, do you know why my cursorloader is disappointing me/ Apr 16 08:35:21 Pwnies, no idea, no time to check all your code now, i might check the details later Apr 16 08:35:50 k. thanks for getting rid of my NPE Apr 16 08:41:47 <_genuser_> so if a service is already start and you start it again, it will just ignore the request, right? Apr 16 08:43:35 eeyup Apr 16 08:43:44 well it will run onstartcommand Apr 16 08:44:59 <_genuser_> I think I'm gonna take a minute to read about it a little more. but it's looking like it's going to help with data manipulation quite a bit. Apr 16 08:47:28 hi, I want to put a checkbox at the bottom of a TimePickerDialog, but I can't get the positioning right Apr 16 10:08:50 if there is anyone who has dealt with display of big numbers, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29603418/how-do-we-convert-bigger-numbers-into-locale-based-smaller-strings Apr 16 10:09:36 1,500,000 into (en: 1.5M | ja: 150万) etc Apr 16 10:09:39 the requirements is to convert Apr 16 10:09:48 anyone? Apr 16 10:10:53 anyone want to discuss (help me understand) ContentProviders, Resolvers? :-) Apr 16 10:11:12 more example: convert 150,000,000 into (en: 150M | ja: 1.5億) etc Apr 16 10:11:34 I've followed the Udacity course, which builds a CP to interface an SQLite database, but in my case I want to interface the images (photos) on the phone. Apr 16 10:12:31 I just can't get my head around the concepts, with the Contract, and the Provider vs the Resolver class... It all makes more sense in a SQL-scenario, but less so in my non-SQL scenario Apr 16 10:12:59 @joakimk_ this was a good tutorial: http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/AndroidSQLite/article.html Apr 16 10:13:49 storing images into byte codes in DB ? Apr 16 10:14:24 Hi rishabhmhjn! Thanks! But that also deals with the case when the data you're "providing" is in fact in a database Apr 16 10:14:52 joakimk_: how about storing images as blobs in DB? Apr 16 10:15:02 rishabhmhjn: to me, it seems unneccessary to first copy all image files from the SD-card etc into the DB Apr 16 10:15:09 do you agree? :) Apr 16 10:15:18 joakimk_: agreed :) Apr 16 10:15:20 twice the space usage :-o Apr 16 10:16:43 so, I have a set of files, essentially, JPEGs. I need to wrap a ContentProvider around this (prerequisite for a course). Initially, to get started with my app/project, I simply opened a cursor to MediaStore ;) Apr 16 10:17:03 heya guys, where should I report a platform bug? Apr 16 10:17:35 I have checked https://code.google.com/p/android/issues but there are no templates for reporting a platform bug! Apr 16 10:17:43 but, I need to write a CP. So, I thought the CP should read all files of type *.jpg (in some dir), and "insert" these into a MatrixCursor: filename, imageData, dateTaken etc Apr 16 10:18:03 essentially, rewrite the MediaStore (?) Apr 16 10:18:06 ;) Apr 16 10:18:30 anyone? Apr 16 10:18:36 I'm joking -- MS is obviously far superior. But, in a sense, this is what I need to do? Apr 16 10:25:34 so I see that onCreate() is called again if the activity is killed but then the user navigates back to the app (recent screens list). I have code in onCreate that creates a database row on the server and must not be called again when the activity is navigated back to. Where else can I put it? Apr 16 10:27:20 at least I have finally found why there are so many duplicate rows when I look at my database, hopefully it didn't cause too much confusion Apr 16 10:30:28 ah savedInstanceState. of course Apr 16 10:31:36 glad we could help you Apr 16 10:32:29 I should have thought of it though Apr 16 10:32:52 thats when the rubber duck debugging kicks in Apr 16 10:52:18 Sup, what do I need to import to get Item..Clipdata to work? It says "Cannot resolv symbol 'Item'". Apr 16 11:00:48 Hi People! Any help on this please? http://stackoverflow.com/q/29669390/243709 Apr 16 11:06:54 So, I'm trying to follow the lead from this Udacity course, and roll my own ContentProvider. But! My data is NOT in SQL; I want to "interface" the photos (JPEGs) on the phone. I'd like to serve/support 2 URIs: a path, and a path + a year. The first gives *.jpg from that dir, and the second filters on year (date_taken). Apr 16 11:07:34 See WeatherContract.java @ https://github.com/udacity/Sunshine-Version-2/tree/sunshine_master/app/src/main/java/com/example/android/sunshine/app/data Apr 16 11:08:22 that's what I'm working from, from that example. So, I've set up my own "PhotoContract", in lack of a better name, but some of this setup is still quite abstract to me Apr 16 11:09:37 What I've got (so far) is pasted here: http://www.pastebin.com/HzGBqDpm Apr 16 11:10:06 Essentially, I'm asking: Wanna have a glance, and let me know if I'm on the right track? :) Apr 16 11:11:18 The "big issue" (for me), is that my ContentProvider (I'll call it PhotoProvider) queries a set of images on "disk" -- it's *not* using the SQLite database. All tutorials etc I've seen deal with querying the DB :-/ Apr 16 11:12:39 My plan: Get that contract set up properly, to keep everything neat. Then, PhotoProvider.query() etc will essentially do something like go to dir (path), read all files *.jpg into array, insert these into MatrixCursor, and return that...?? Apr 16 11:16:34 how can i solve transactiontoolarge exception ? i have to update a contact photo by getting it from sdcard which is already compressed png Apr 16 11:17:01 When creating new virtual devices in Genomotion, I can go as far back as 2.3.7. How can I emulate an older os version, specifically 2.2? Apr 16 11:18:06 genymotion doesnt have lower than 2.3.7 Apr 16 11:18:29 anyway why would you support lower than api 10 :s Apr 16 11:19:11 In PhotoContract (http://www.pastebin.com/HzGBqDpm) I've set up two classes, one to support each of the two URIs (path and path/year). Does that makes sense? Apr 16 11:24:23 Hello, I am trying to build native code using ndk, but I got an error: undefined reference to 'ffs', how to fix it ? Apr 16 11:26:17 AnAnt: Don't reference something that doesn't exist Apr 16 11:26:20 Maybe he wants to travel to the past Apr 16 11:27:25 ? Apr 16 11:27:56 thanks, I found some patch that does this: #define ffs(i) __builtin_ffs(i) Apr 16 11:30:49 Hello folks! Apr 16 11:30:56 good afternoon Apr 16 11:32:37 On a Up Activity (back) if I try to use intent.setExtra()... and after that use finish(), it won't work, right? Apr 16 11:33:17 good afternoon Ashiren :) Apr 16 11:34:18 android.os.TransactionTooLargeException any idea how to solve it ? getting an img from sdCard and update specified contact's photo Apr 16 12:12:42 I want to play with simple 3D Objects in Android (cube, sphere, ...), in order to make them move and animate. What would be the best option to play with that ? Apr 16 12:31:51 I'm working with a usb-device and have created an intent-filter. It works, but not if the device was already plugged when I started the application (from the debugger). I am not meant to combine intent-filter and enumeration? Apr 16 12:49:28 hello Apr 16 12:49:47 how can i use the same actionbar in all the activities? Apr 16 12:50:55 Morning everyone. Apr 16 12:51:27 i want to include the ActionBar from the main activity in all its children Apr 16 12:53:54 I have a question about wake locks, and geo-fencing. Specifically, I have an app that is killing battery because its aquiring 1000's of wake locks. Thats obviously not right, but theres abit more to the story. Specifically, its an app that relies on the google location services (Geo-fencing). We need to know when we enter or exit a geo-fence, but were Apr 16 12:53:55 finding that the location services are not very accurate. Apr 16 12:54:55 yes, because they're using methods that don't kill the battery :) Apr 16 12:55:00 so what's your issue? Apr 16 12:55:19 Specifically, we will be clicking along and then get a random, off the wall location update that trips the fence, and then back in few seconds later, thus tripping the action. We are having to acquire wake locks and turn on fine location briefly to verify before triggering the action... Apr 16 12:55:54 Mavrik: So Im trying to think of a way to handle it thats both battery friendly and accurate... so far its seeming like an impossible task... lol Apr 16 12:56:04 Any thoughts? Apr 16 13:01:55 was it a mistake to structure my Navigation Drawer app as One Activity/Multiple Fragments? Apr 16 13:03:29 heyas Apr 16 13:03:33 my problem: My app uses a popup window (using AlertDialog.Builder); this has a user input (EditText). Problem is that in some cases, the text color is that of the background, which does not help visibility. Apr 16 13:06:40 <_genuser_> MooGoo: I think the sample they have does the same setup. one activity, multiple fragments where each selection from the nav drawer loads a new fragment. Apr 16 13:07:20 yea, that is what I based my app on, but now I'm starting to wonder, especilly after looking at the source to that Google IO app Apr 16 13:08:22 <_genuser_> if it's not causing you any problems, don't worry about it. Apr 16 13:08:38 <_genuser_> unless this google IO app has something great that you want to implement and the fragments are preventing that. Apr 16 13:09:50 well....I kinda just discovered "Don't keep background activities" and it is causing tons of problems with my app...and I wonder if it is partly because of the way I'm using fragments Apr 16 13:09:59 but it's probably just because I'm using fragments poorly Apr 16 13:10:36 <_genuser_> but if you're using fragments, is there a "background actvitiy" that's causing problems? Apr 16 13:11:06 no....it's just that the app has a lot of trouble in some cases restoring its state after being fully destroyed Apr 16 13:11:57 some of it has to do with the fact that I was using getTargetFragment() extensivly...and that does not seem to work well with the childFragmentManager.....using getParentFragment instead is better Apr 16 13:12:05 <_genuser_> oh,I see. most of the apps I've done haven't need to worry about that. :) Apr 16 13:12:13 how so? Apr 16 13:12:59 <_genuser_> if you use fragments, you can retain state and that helps. Apr 16 13:13:25 using setRetainInstance(true)? Sure, and I have, but that does not help when the activity is destroyed Apr 16 13:13:53 <_genuser_> in some cases where I've had to rebuild from resume, it's been simple enough to put something in the bundle and restore from bundle onResume. Apr 16 13:15:04 <_genuser_> but if activity is completely destroyed, you aren't really restoring state across pause/resume. Apr 16 13:15:26 no....you'd be restoring state in onCreate I guess Apr 16 13:15:36 <_genuser_> it sounds more like restoring from cached state that could be due to activity destruction/construction or even across multiple application runs. Apr 16 13:16:57 <_genuser_> tbh, if I need to store state, I store it in onPause, and restore from it in onCreate. that way if I stored something on activity destruction, it will be passed back in onCreate(bundle). Apr 16 13:17:34 <_genuser_> the official android activity lifecycle description bores me to tears. so I've understood it a little and run with that. Apr 16 13:18:27 it never seems that simple for me...even when the activity can restore its state and not crash doing it....things invariably break at that point Apr 16 13:19:00 I kinda wish someone had told me to develop with the "Don't keep background activities" toggled from the begining Apr 16 13:21:04 <_genuser_> yeah, I wonder how some of the really nice apps do stuff like that. even simple things like keep place in list or textview across screen rotations. Apr 16 13:21:27 <_genuser_> you know stuff like kindle app. it's nice and impressive how those apps just run smoothly and never have glitches. Apr 16 13:22:18 yea I was experimenting with some google apps last night to see if I could get any to break with the dont keep activities toggle....and they almost always compleatly restored their state without a hitch, pretty impressive considering what is going on in the background Apr 16 13:23:01 <_genuser_> so what is the toggle that you're mentioning? Is this an android platform setting? or an app level setting? Apr 16 13:23:28 it's in Developer Options, near the bottom Apr 16 13:24:10 <_genuser_> I see. so it never puts an activity in teh background but rather destroys it, is that it? Apr 16 13:24:27 yes, just as if it needed to do so because of low memory or something Apr 16 13:24:43 so it's a good way to test that scenario deterministly Apr 16 13:25:22 Hi! Apr 16 13:25:35 *deterministically Apr 16 13:26:05 Why can it be that a View with align parent bottom stretches its parent RelativeView height? Apr 16 13:26:10 <_genuser_> I see. I haven't tried that before. Maybe I'll try that to see how my app deals with that kinda stuff. Apr 16 13:27:54 so Application.onCreate() is only run once...even if the activity is completely destroyed and recreated? Apr 16 13:28:36 <_genuser_> my understanding is that it is only run once as long as the application stays loaded, regardless of activity/activities and their lifecycles. Apr 16 13:30:35 eeyup Apr 16 13:30:46 sometimes finishing all the activities isnt enough Apr 16 13:31:37 <_genuser_> when you say eeyup I image a guy taking a big sip of his coffee and then saying yup while smacking his lips. Apr 16 13:32:41 no mlp fan? Apr 16 13:32:41 Ashiren, I checked android:layout_gravity Apr 16 13:32:55 Ashiren, but it's for linearlayout Apr 16 13:33:03 <_genuser_> Ashiren: mlp? Apr 16 13:33:30 hello Apr 16 13:33:50 <_genuser_> lol, google "mlp eeyup" helped me out there. Apr 16 13:34:41 <_genuser_> Ashiren: I didn't know bronies had infiltrated android development... Apr 16 13:35:12 well im surprised they didnt Apr 16 13:35:33 As long as they don't push their hobby on my face I'm cool with it Apr 16 13:36:07 20% cool? Apr 16 13:36:19 101% cool Apr 16 13:36:50 <_genuser_> Ashiren: I haven't ever watched mlp. that I know off. but I've watched kim possible enough to go around saying, "what's the sitch" Apr 16 13:36:51 Ashiren, http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/LinearLayout.LayoutParams.html Apr 16 13:36:57 <_genuser_> and then you have to explain to people.... Apr 16 13:39:53 I have an issue where my Java VM (and thus android studio) crashes in relation to fontmanager.dll when onMeasure() of my custom font text view is called Apr 16 13:39:59 any idea what could cause this? Apr 16 13:41:46 for some reason, when I move my finger on an EditText, the hint text gets dragged down half a line, any thoughts? Apr 16 13:42:03 http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/attachmentText?id=166377&aid=1663770003000&name=android_studio_crash_error_64.log&token=ABZ6GAd6s-Ms5vuMGtEeQV3OrXdi7Y8Luw%3A1429191682237 Here's the crashlog if anyone is interested Apr 16 13:45:00 does android studio work with JDK 1.8 yet? Apr 16 13:46:16 iprime: hello Apr 16 13:46:27 blusky: salut Apr 16 13:46:53 john67: if you want to speak french, please, do it in PM :-) Apr 16 13:47:02 but hi anyway :-) Apr 16 13:47:22 blusky: hi, i know but i just wanted to salute u in a special way Apr 16 13:47:46 ^^ Apr 16 13:49:38 hey john67 you done with the app ? Apr 16 13:49:59 not yet, got 2 issues to solve then im done Apr 16 13:51:11 i cant send parcelable to activity after phone reboot Apr 16 13:51:15 Syzygy: you can make it work using a gradle plugin Apr 16 13:51:47 seems like it's working out of the box actually Apr 16 13:52:12 then try a lambda :0 Apr 16 13:52:22 classpath 'me.tatarka:gradle-retrolambda:3.0.1' is what i have Apr 16 13:52:40 john67, you mean you persist the parcelable to a file or something? Apr 16 13:52:54 retrolambda is neat Apr 16 13:53:38 iprime: no, i have a service which contain the notification, i want to send the parcelable througth the notification to activity Apr 16 14:03:33 john67, so put the it in the pending intent Apr 16 14:05:09 pfnQ: have done so , http://pastebin.com/hxcxAj1W Apr 16 14:06:07 but nothing been received Apr 16 14:06:11 in the activity Apr 16 14:06:16 john67, is Verses parcelable? Apr 16 14:06:23 yeah Apr 16 14:06:53 do you really need to use parcelables? why don't you fetch the data in the activity instead Apr 16 14:07:51 the data is been sent through service, i need to send it through service, Apr 16 14:09:16 it should be receiving the extra fine Apr 16 14:09:37 pfnQ: it doesnt , thats what i dont get Apr 16 14:10:49 what are your activity flags? Apr 16 14:11:04 is your activity running Apr 16 14:11:05 guys, which best book I must to read about Android Development? Apr 16 14:12:40 yeah, Apr 16 14:12:55 woozly: Just use d.a.c and make an app. If you're a typical nerd you'll learn way more quickly. Apr 16 14:12:56 its running, Apr 16 14:13:45 what is an avarge salary for junior andorid developer in EU Apr 16 14:14:09 john67, and start flags? Apr 16 14:15:39 How can I include the ActionBar from the main activity in all its children? Apr 16 14:15:39