**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 20 02:59:58 2015 Apr 20 03:01:01 because of the way android is focused around sending to updates to gplay is it worthwhile to implement continuous delivery on an android project Apr 20 03:01:30 or is it better to focus on a more traditional release model? Apr 20 03:02:28 mrfu maybe you will like http://stablekernel.com/blog/deploying-google-play-continuous-delivery-android-part-4/ Apr 20 03:05:41 the only bad thing about the gplay alpha/beta system is it requires users to be clever enough to follow directions Apr 20 03:05:47 thanks g00s, that was a good article Apr 20 03:05:49 the number of users who do not is... unsurprising Apr 20 03:06:05 i'll check out the linked posts there too, we are currently using travis Apr 20 03:06:16 looks like he has one on their CI stuff Apr 20 03:07:01 dragorn using gplay alpha/beta, do you recommend google-groups or google+ ? Apr 20 03:07:21 g00s, i didn't know it worked w/ groups. I think i started using it right at the beginning when it was g+ only Apr 20 03:07:23 i'm finding shockingly little discussion around continuous integration on android unfortunately Apr 20 03:11:04 yeah ... seems like it could be *a lot* easier - just get rid of groups all together, if its a private alpa/beta Google Play should show 'Request invite' which i could take care of in my console Apr 20 03:12:11 i hope ellie powers has lots of good news at i/o ... Apr 20 03:13:23 otoh i guess its nice with group communication Apr 20 03:14:41 * g00s wonders when google groups will shut down, i can't see how its making google money Apr 20 03:15:56 g00s, i figured it was a symptom of "thou shalt g+" Apr 20 03:32:40 g+, twitter, facebook ... 'stuff I've never used' :p Apr 20 03:33:07 * capella is an anti-social luddite :) Apr 20 03:33:52 * capella goes back to his silent b/w film Apr 20 03:46:39 capella: hear hear Apr 20 04:48:18 Have anyone Android 2.2 (API 7 or 8) and want to help testing my app ? (I want to check old Android compatibility, but I don't have specified device) Apr 20 04:49:55 wait for the attacks ... Apr 20 04:50:06 not Apr 20 04:50:56 My app is open-source, one question: Maps API support Android 2.2+ ? Apr 20 04:51:56 Narzew: just use an emulator Apr 20 04:52:57 better grab those froyo emus while you can, seems they are the last one on the list Apr 20 04:54:00 I should download whole Android API8 package or only emulator is needed ? Apr 20 05:07:00 @Narzew - Just download the SDK Platform Apr 20 05:07:30 For api 8, use the SDK manager in Eclipse/Android Studio Apr 20 05:10:03 wow ! i just noticed this --- you can't download honeycomb from the SDK manager (9, 11-14) are missing Apr 20 05:10:15 RIP HC :) Apr 20 05:10:52 what's honeycomb? Apr 20 05:10:59 14 is ics Apr 20 05:11:13 but it was only ever on the Galaxy nexus Apr 20 05:11:14 and 9 is GB, i was just pointing out Apr 20 05:11:22 g00s: more like good riddance, HC :) Apr 20 05:11:48 JesusFreke :D Apr 20 05:12:09 the windows ME of android Apr 20 05:24:42 "Columbia Engineering Professor Invents Video Camera that Runs without a Battery" wow Apr 20 05:25:33 but wasnt how the first video cameras operated? Apr 20 05:25:47 by spinning the handle Apr 20 05:26:27 it will be great for phones someday, the camera will help charge the phone Apr 20 05:26:46 which it does is combine two types of diode. Apr 20 05:27:07 so its a solar cell mixed with a light sensor Apr 20 05:27:18 obvious in hindsight :) Apr 20 05:27:25 Chainfire http://www.gizmag.com/camlet-mount-dslr-smartphone-tablet/37066/ Apr 20 05:29:02 man as is so slow i can barely useit its like the days of 2400 baud Apr 20 05:29:31 you've bumped up the heap size? Apr 20 05:29:35 300 baud... we just talked about this Apr 20 05:29:53 its not bad until you use VNC over 300 baud :) Apr 20 05:30:06 yeah Apr 20 05:30:17 but like i delete a line and the mouse staggers for a second Apr 20 05:30:27 or intellisense takes 3 seconds to pop up and everything hangs will it does Apr 20 05:30:43 with my 2009 mbp, i'll often type ahead of the cursor. its pretty bad Apr 20 05:30:58 and then i won't see anything, so i stop typing Apr 20 05:31:01 and then it catches up Apr 20 05:31:06 weird. I've never had any performance issues Apr 20 05:31:40 JesusFreke you probably have a better machine tho :) Apr 20 05:31:57 it only got this bad after updating to 1.3 Apr 20 05:32:01 err 1.2 ver 3 Apr 20 05:32:16 but i have finally put down the mediaplayer Apr 20 05:32:56 lasserix emotionally scarred from it ? Apr 20 05:33:23 a little but it feels like finally getting laid after being teased by a girlfriend for weeks Apr 20 05:33:36 finally can sleep peacefully tonight Apr 20 05:33:43 ah so you got it working ? Apr 20 05:33:51 yeah everything is done with it Apr 20 05:34:13 and its set up so when i have to implement the other videoplayer thingy it'll be very easy to subclass and just ad the extra overlay infop Apr 20 05:35:05 rxjava would have made it easier i gota spend some time workign with that, had to add debounce logic to a couple of the things Apr 20 06:24:09 "Two men in Tulsa, Okla. were hospitalized on Friday after stabbing each other in a fight over the superiority of iPhones versus Android devices" Apr 20 06:26:07 it's the modern ford vs chevy Apr 20 06:26:53 that's silly Apr 20 06:27:01 I wouldn't stab iphone users! Apr 20 06:27:37 I have slightly more self control than that Apr 20 06:28:30 whats the android fan going to do when the nurse stops by with an iPad Apr 20 06:29:31 stab the nurse? Apr 20 06:30:03 g00s: hahah Apr 20 06:30:17 physicians use iPads in hospitals heh Apr 20 06:31:06 ipads are used everywhere official... android has a massive PR issue D: Apr 20 06:31:28 android tablets have a massive software issue Apr 20 06:31:54 google had a great tablet ui and then scrapped it in 4.2 :P Apr 20 06:31:58 i think it is just esier to develop official for ipad cause no fragmentation Apr 20 06:32:22 there are also alliances apple has with IBM, and using watson in healthcare, etc Apr 20 06:33:03 but apple spend a lot of money in 2011 timeframe going after certain sectors, medical was one Apr 20 06:34:20 it's a smart move... go after the industries that are very slow to change tech-wise Apr 20 06:34:30 I guess all the hospitals have ipads and windows xp now Apr 20 06:35:04 https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/46580.wss Apr 20 06:35:48 "IBM and Apple will expand their partnership with IBM Watson Health Cloud to provide a secure cloud platform and analytics for Apple's HealthKit and ResearchKit. This will support health data entered by customers in iOS apps and also arm medical researchers with a secure, open data storage solution with access to IBM's most sophisticated data analytics capabilities" Apr 20 06:36:10 lol "open platform" Apr 20 06:36:55 healthkit is on githubhealthkit is open source Apr 20 06:37:45 oops - not on github Apr 20 06:39:41 ok, researchkit is open source. i don't know the difference between the 2 frameworks though Apr 20 06:40:04 * lizzie shrugs Apr 20 06:40:08 well ok Apr 20 06:40:14 so is there an android version? Apr 20 06:42:27 https://github.com/researchkit/researchkit Apr 20 06:42:38 lizzie you'll have to start one ! Apr 20 06:43:05 08:31:54 google had a great tablet ui and then scrapped it in 4.2 :P Apr 20 06:43:08 exactly Apr 20 06:43:16 I remember ICS on my old tablet Apr 20 06:43:20 but I have to make the world's best podcast program! Apr 20 06:43:40 nyuszika7h what did they change ? Apr 20 06:43:49 nyuszika7h: know how I weaned myself off tabletui? I got a rom with a pie menu and banished the navbar Apr 20 06:44:20 g00s: there is lots of wasted screen space in landscape mode on settings, for one Apr 20 06:44:45 lizzie: I got used to the new UI pretty fast, but it's annoying sometimes Apr 20 06:45:03 have to go now Apr 20 06:45:07 nyuszika7h: I can't stand having 2 ever-present software bars Apr 20 06:45:15 huge amount of wasted screen space Apr 20 06:48:17 Hi all Apr 20 06:48:45 Am I alone thinking that dagger is kind of intrusive when you are unit testing your classes? Apr 20 06:49:33 It's almost as if you're thrusting a dagger in them. Apr 20 06:50:19 Papipo: How so? Apr 20 06:50:43 Well, several solutions come to my mind Apr 20 06:50:54 but out of the box, injection just won't work Apr 20 06:50:59 for example Apr 20 06:51:09 (Using dagger 2 here) Apr 20 06:51:34 if I use field injection, when calling component().inject(this), I get a NullPointerException Apr 20 06:51:58 because the component hasn't been initialised (the App onCreate method never runs when unit testing) Apr 20 06:52:28 A solution is to initialise the component on the component() method itself, lazily Apr 20 06:52:34 Then do your injection somewhere else Apr 20 06:52:36 but then on each call to component() there is a null check Apr 20 06:53:20 so you mean that I should modify my application structure to fit unit testing on it? Apr 20 06:53:23 You need a component, at runtime it's coming from your app, for tests, it comes from somewhere else Apr 20 06:53:32 well Apr 20 06:53:42 in the class under test I call App.component().inject(this) Apr 20 06:53:48 instead of that, what I am supposed to do Apr 20 06:54:05 Well, I guess I can have some sort of Graph class Apr 20 06:54:11 Set up your component in your @BeforeClass for example Apr 20 06:54:32 so App should have a setter for the component? Apr 20 06:54:39 just for testing? Apr 20 06:56:34 Hey guys how I have 1 grid layout and it has 2 relative layouts. I trying to make the two relatives to be side by side using weights http://pastebin.com/izHxA8mM but its not working... what I doing wrong? Apr 20 07:01:41 anyone please? I trying for hours :) Apr 20 07:02:44 I have ended up creating a static class just to hold the component, and it can be initialised from anywhere Apr 20 07:02:58 way better than doing it directly on the App class Apr 20 07:04:53 Papipo maybe check out some open source apps using dagger Apr 20 07:05:33 many have a debug variant which has its own graph, but they use it for instrumentation testing Apr 20 07:05:47 I haven't seen any with a "test" graph Apr 20 07:07:49 Almis90, what's your minSDK? Apr 20 07:08:30 layout_columnWeight is API21 only, if that's all your layout, why not use a linearlayout instead of gridlayout? Apr 20 07:13:28 iprime yes its 21 Apr 20 07:13:57 ipme not this is just example I will also use imageview and maybe another textview Apr 20 07:16:01 I trying to do tiles like windows phone http://blog.tinydeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/xl_Microsoft_Windows_Phone_8_s.jpg Apr 20 07:16:55 Almis90 you'll want to use a dedicated view for that, there are a few Apr 20 07:17:48 uh oh, windows on android :) Apr 20 07:18:18 Almis90, if it has to be dynamic you could look into creating a custom layout manager for a recyclerview Apr 20 07:19:40 from scratch its pretty difficult, to get the moving / resizing Apr 20 07:19:59 I think gridlayout is the simplest solution, it will not be dynamic, they cant move them Apr 20 07:20:54 I just want 3x2 table and the second row to have columspan 2 Apr 20 07:21:53 hm, i thought it was on here but can't find it Apr 20 07:21:55 https://android-arsenal.com/free Apr 20 07:23:33 Almis90 see the libs inthe section of https://android-arsenal.com/details/1/187 Apr 20 07:24:28 g00s wow thank you for the link, this and the AsymmetricGridView its maybe what I need. Apr 20 07:32:15 lizzie: expanded desktop Apr 20 07:32:27 I find pie controls annoying Apr 20 07:32:36 aw I like them Apr 20 07:32:51 they're hard to use Apr 20 07:33:10 easy to accidentally select something elsr Apr 20 07:33:12 *else Apr 20 07:33:56 hey guys Apr 20 07:35:40 I have a simple app that uses the DrawerLayout. I wanted to make user able to switch between the screens but couldn't find how to use activities with the same DrawerLayout. Apr 20 07:36:23 My solution is to add 3 layouts for the main view and hide 2 of them to display only the current Apr 20 07:36:27 is it very hacky? Apr 20 07:41:03 hmm? Apr 20 07:41:10 any1 alive? =] Apr 20 07:43:10 Anyone have advice on mediaplayer throttling seek? Apr 20 07:43:17 guess i shoudl debounce that too Apr 20 07:45:45 feedback time. I've made an activity animation. It basically creates a bitmap from a view draw cache and parse it to the new activity where it then puts in on top of the existing layout. From there I can use it as a mask by simply cutting it and animating it. Apr 20 07:46:25 but since it creates a bitmap, it does come with a good amount of overhead. Nothing the GC can't handle, but still quite some peaks. Is there a better way of doing this? Apr 20 07:47:52 hTmlDP, use fragments Apr 20 07:48:15 iprime: well, what about FroYo then? Apr 20 07:48:22 iprime: +any good tutorial? Apr 20 07:48:43 iprime: does it handle the back key automatically Apr 20 07:49:00 hTmlDP, no idea about tuts, back key: sorta Apr 20 07:51:00 I'm writing an app (as an exercise) to load photos from phone in a "gallery". The main activity gets the thumbnails from MediaStore, while the detail activity loads the clicked image + some metadata with a custom content provider. So far so good! But, the course requires I add an AsyncTask, but I'm not sure what I could have it do. Any suggestions? Remember, it's a course prerequsite to include an AsyncTask Apr 20 07:52:10 I'm not loading any content from the web. Just reading the pics from the phone, and getting/setting some meta data (EXIF tags) on a single image. Apr 20 07:56:01 What about "refreshing" the MediaStore (thumbnails)? If I take a photo w/camera while my app is running, I notice that the new photo is not automatically added to the gallery Apr 20 07:56:51 so, I could perhaps periodically refresh the MediaStore (if that makes sense). Otherwise, I guess I should really use broadcast intents to achieve this; have my app listen for events fired by the camera... Apr 20 07:59:15 joakimk_, read the info about the thumbs in an asynctask Apr 20 07:59:23 uoi can register a content observer Apr 20 08:00:59 iprime: could you please elaborate? :) What info do you mean? Apr 20 08:02:20 lasserix: so, I'd register a content observer to the "root uri", MediaStore.Images.Thumbnails.EXTERNAL_CONTENT_URI ? Apr 20 08:02:48 i mean where you query and iterate over the result, this should preferably happen off the main thread Apr 20 08:05:03 iprime: I see what you're saying. Very new to Android programming, so please bear with me ;) What I'm doing now, is to have my fragment load the thumbnails in onCreateLoader, i.e. with a CursorLoader. Does that, then, happen on or off the main thread? Apr 20 08:05:55 oh Apr 20 08:06:02 so you're good Apr 20 08:06:10 :D Apr 20 08:06:29 you're too good for that course... Apr 20 08:07:27 hehe, I'm following the outline we worked through for the course app. Applying stuff to my app. So can't take too much credit! But I have learned to do things the right way, apparently :) Apr 20 08:08:10 joakimk_: yeah, then when it triggers you need to restart your loader Apr 20 08:08:17 but I still lack an AsyncTask for my app, formally at least. I'm trying to find some task it can do, but it's not so easy. Apr 20 08:08:29 the loader is a specialized async task Apr 20 08:08:45 lasserix: thanks! Still, what about doing it the odd way, and have a manual refresh tucked away in an asynctask? ;-) Apr 20 08:08:45 i think it even starts an async task under the hood Apr 20 08:08:51 yeah? Apr 20 08:08:56 not 100% sure Apr 20 08:09:11 joakimk_: a cursor loader is an async task with more specialized callbacks Apr 20 08:09:16 I see :) Apr 20 08:09:28 instead of doInBackground -- the cursor part is that, then onPostExectures is finished/cancelled Apr 20 08:09:49 still, the course requires me to implement either a SyncAdapter, IntentService, or AsyncTask... Apr 20 08:10:02 if you want a async task to use, make your imageviews lazy async Apr 20 08:10:06 explicitly so, not "just" implicit (in the cursor loader) Apr 20 08:10:57 please note, I need something *simple* for my asynctask -- preferrably something only loosely coupled to the app as it is now. Deadline approaching ;) Apr 20 08:11:47 so, is it possible to have a "refresh" menu item trigger an asynctask to reload the thumbnails? Apr 20 08:11:50 add such that you pick an image and then do something to the bitmap Apr 20 08:11:57 joakimk_: your loader already does that Apr 20 08:12:13 you should ask if the loader qualifies as an async task since it is one Apr 20 08:12:17 but, I took a new photo with the camera, while my app was running, and the new pic did not appear ... Apr 20 08:12:23 I see :) Apr 20 08:12:33 it is even more complicated than one Apr 20 08:12:44 yeah you need to register the content observer Apr 20 08:12:54 aha Apr 20 08:13:16 requiering with an async task would defeat the point of the loader Apr 20 08:13:32 sure! Apr 20 08:13:35 you could implement your own content observer Apr 20 08:13:39 as an aync task if you wanted Apr 20 08:13:49 basically just do a query on mediastore, count number of images Apr 20 08:13:54 see if that changes Apr 20 08:14:01 you might need to also look at a version number since Apr 20 08:14:06 add + delete = same number Apr 20 08:14:16 then if there is a change (you can return boolean for async task) Apr 20 08:14:21 you can refresh your loader Apr 20 08:15:12 so when you start fire off an async task that: queries mediastore for images, grabbing all primary keys and date taken Apr 20 08:15:14 Does anyone know the name of the Android Studio plugin that prompts you with hotkeys to use when you manually do something? Apr 20 08:15:27 then when the user takes a pic, you can fire off another one and compare the two lists, if there is a change, refresh your loader Apr 20 08:16:26 key promotor Apr 20 08:16:28 liuwenhao: Apr 20 08:17:03 Thank you lasserix Apr 20 08:17:16 is it worth using? it looks good Apr 20 08:17:33 lasserix: thanks! Looking into it now :) Apr 20 08:18:05 joakimk_: that's a bit complicated though, you might be better off with like doing a dummy upload to a server of a chosen pic Apr 20 08:19:09 lasserix: hm! That's s good idea! Apr 20 08:20:29 Anyone know a good IRC channel for developing chrome plugins? It's something i am interested in Apr 20 08:20:57 i found #chromium but wondering if there is any more Apr 20 08:22:33 nevermind, found it. It's #chromium-extensions Apr 20 08:22:51 still, maybe I'm thinking of a simpler approach. Wouldn't doInbackground() just query the MediaStore -> count. Then, onPostExecute() could just trigger restartLoader() Apr 20 08:22:51 ? Apr 20 08:23:02 if count != count_mem, that is Apr 20 08:23:09 What is it with TouchListeners recieving TOUCH_UP with no corresponding TOUCH_DOWN? Apr 20 08:23:26 Since I can't use "localhost" to connect to a running local server from an emulator or connected device, what's the best way to configure this so it doesn't have to be changed? Apr 20 08:23:42 lasserix: I'll post a paste, perhaps you could take a quick look? Apr 20 08:23:56 joakimk_: sure but what happens if the user takes a picture and deletes a picture? Apr 20 08:24:26 lasserix: doesn't have to be perfect. Just have to include an asynctask... sorry for the less-than-great motivation here Apr 20 08:24:48 but, of course, I could improve the logic for when data actually has changed, yes :) Apr 20 08:25:22 but this would be including an asynctask, with at least *some* reasonable functionality Apr 20 08:25:55 as mentioned the loader is an async task Apr 20 08:26:01 What is the minimum version of Android you would recommend supporting for a new app? Apr 20 08:26:14 yeah, but I'm not implementing that async task myself... Apr 20 08:26:24 not arguing with you, but you see the point? :) Apr 20 08:26:51 sure Apr 20 08:29:47 although theres still 5% 2.3.x devices, screw them Apr 20 08:29:59 start with android 4.0.x Apr 20 08:30:26 Every time I implement OnTouchListener, I get random ass ACTION_UP's Apr 20 08:32:48 I would just buffer out the erroneous ones but without any corresponding action down, It's too f@&*ed up Apr 20 08:46:26 lasserix: you still here? :) Apr 20 08:46:30 please have a look at http://pastebin.com/FTdG8Tj7 Apr 20 08:47:44 note, it's a bit quick, and I messed up the "signature" on the AsyncTask. Essentially, it should take no parameter (Void), but doInbackground() should return an Integer, right? And onPostExecute() should return a Boolean? Apr 20 08:48:22 as I recall, it's onPostExecute() which is returned upon calling execute() ? Apr 20 08:48:43 umm columncount? Apr 20 08:49:06 sorry! but you see what I'm aiming for :) Apr 20 08:49:24 all that matters is the params and what you return unless you want a proress callback Apr 20 08:49:26 getCount :) Apr 20 08:49:57 you should probably pass in the content resolver instead of setting context as a class member Apr 20 08:50:11 if that method took 10 seconds to complete and the user exited the app it would leak the context Apr 20 08:50:19 so pass content resolver as your param Apr 20 08:50:22 ok Apr 20 08:50:26 as param to execute, then? Apr 20 08:50:42 yeah Apr 20 08:51:43 then that becomes a parameter to doInBackground() ? What's the appropriate signature then? doInBackground(ContentResolver... params) ? Apr 20 08:52:02 plus I'll do Cursor c = params[0].query(baseUri, null, null, null, null); Apr 20 08:52:04 proabbly dont remember Apr 20 08:52:12 Can someone think of a reason why a drawable would have a black background on one device, while it doesn't on all others? Apr 20 08:52:40 lasserix: then the signature becomes, AsyncTask Apr 20 08:53:04 Syzygy: the others are racist Apr 20 08:53:31 Apr 20 08:53:41 unless you want the number back Apr 20 08:53:47 very helpfull Apr 20 08:54:07 but requires that doInBackground() returns boolean? Apr 20 08:54:23 what is actually returned back to fragment's execute() call? Apr 20 08:55:02 I mean, execute() calls doInBackground(), but what about onPostExecute()? Which function in asynctask is actually returned back on execute() ? Apr 20 08:55:07 onpostexecute shouldn't return anything Apr 20 08:55:11 yeah? Apr 20 08:55:27 its not a future Apr 20 08:55:28 so I don't need it at all Apr 20 08:55:31 its an async task Apr 20 08:55:59 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html Apr 20 08:57:08 you would call a method in your activity Apr 20 08:57:13 or do a callback via an interface Apr 20 09:03:38 Is this the only way to get the emulator talk to a local server? http://bartinger.at/inject-dynamic-host-ip-address-with-gradle/ Apr 20 09:09:47 lasserix: can you help me with the callback from the asynctask? I can update the post Apr 20 09:10:39 lasserix: is it "easier" (neater?) to have the AsyncTask inside the fragment.java file (subclass)? Apr 20 09:12:27 lasserix: http://pastebin.com/K4NFVY4V Apr 20 09:14:03 I have a bug where I set an xml drawable as a background to an image tile and on a single phone (samsung galaxy s 2), parts that should be transparent turn black. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzvuJcxKrZ_PZ0dDN0NVdUk0ZGM/view?usp=sharing http://pastebin.com/tXAnFCCN Any idea what might cause that? Apr 20 09:14:13 so "refresh" menu invokes (starts) execute(). No return value, obviously. Then, I need a method in the fragment, say manualRefreshLoader(), which the asynctask can call if and when it decides the loader needs to be reset? Apr 20 09:14:29 Hey all Apr 20 09:14:57 Is there a constant for the keycode for the keyboard arrow keys? Apr 20 09:15:50 If I google, I find lots of java results saying to use KeyEvent.VK_UP but android doesn't seem to have this Apr 20 09:17:02 g00s> that's a lot of DSLR Controller screenshots, lol Apr 20 09:18:01 johnflux: try KeyEvent.KEYCODE_blah Apr 20 09:18:36 KEYCODE_DPAD Apr 20 09:19:24 Ashiren: I saw that but wasn't sure.. okay I'll use that, thanks Apr 20 09:19:48 Ashiren: can I just send that event to an activity, if I want simulate the user pressing it? Apr 20 09:20:56 dunno Apr 20 09:22:11 well you could invoke activity's onKeyDown(keycode, event) with your keycode and event manually Apr 20 09:23:00 * johnflux nods Apr 20 09:25:02 johnflux, why dont you send the keydown event to the actual receiver? Apr 20 09:25:10 i.e the view with the listener attached Apr 20 09:27:57 danijoo: hmm, not sure what you mean. I have a fragment which looks like a remote control. If the user presses an arrow button on the virtual remote control, I want to send that to whatever has focus Apr 20 09:28:15 at least, I think that's what I want to do :-) Apr 20 09:28:59 i mean instead of sending a keycode, you could do myArrowButton.performClick() Apr 20 09:30:34 danijoo: ah, well I want to send the arrow keycodes to a gridview, for example Apr 20 09:30:55 danijoo: so that you can use the virtual remote control arrow buttons, to control which item in a grid view is selected Apr 20 09:39:59 I may be having a brain fart here, but how does a non-static inner class hold static fields in MediaRecorder.AudioSource -> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.AudioSource.html Apr 20 09:42:15 huh Apr 20 09:42:31 static is static Apr 20 09:42:54 Especially when the JLS itself forbids it -> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se7/html/jls-8.html#jls-8.1.3 Apr 20 09:44:04 well they are finals? Apr 20 09:44:11 you can declare final Apr 20 09:44:54 itwenty: your link says: static final int x = 3; // OK: compile-time constant Apr 20 09:45:19 Oh..ok. As I said, I was having a brain fart =] Apr 20 09:46:50 itwenty: interesting though - I didn't know this Apr 20 09:49:16 Hmm..I notice that accessing MediaRecorder.AudioSource.DEFAULT works fine from a Java class, but gives an "Unresolved Reference" error in a Kotlin class Apr 20 09:49:43 Maybe I should carry this over to kotlin IRC Apr 20 10:07:34 is there a way to copy one intent extra to another intent? Apr 20 10:09:16 got it Intent.putExtras(oldIntent); Apr 20 10:09:35 yeah. or manually if you ony want a subset. Apr 20 10:15:19 hello Apr 20 10:15:33 is there any irc channel or mail list for android volley librarry ? Apr 20 10:15:53 I dont think so Apr 20 10:16:54 um ok thanks. Apr 20 10:17:23 you can ask here if its android development related :) Apr 20 10:17:34 can I get from getIntent if it was launched for result? Apr 20 10:18:07 SneakerXZ, only if you set a flag for it Apr 20 10:18:18 (afaik) Apr 20 10:19:19 yes i am developing an android app, i am using volley library for loading remote images Apr 20 10:19:24 but there is a problem with cache Apr 20 10:19:34 is there any volley user here ? Apr 20 10:19:50 bcursor, you want to load an image from a website and put it into an imageview? Apr 20 10:20:00 yes i am using networkimageview Apr 20 10:20:10 but somehow the cache is erased Apr 20 10:20:22 when my activity restarted for memory issues Apr 20 10:20:47 my activity try to load images from remote server, however these url adresses already in cache so it should get them from memory Apr 20 10:21:13 but it tries to load them from remote server again, and i am getting volley out of memory exception Apr 20 10:21:45 are you using a LruCache? Apr 20 10:21:59 there are two caches i think, one cache for general volley queue another cache for lrucache for images Apr 20 10:22:03 yes i am using lrucache Apr 20 10:22:46 im not really familiar with volley but i think the general queue cache will only be used when the correct cache headers are set server side Apr 20 10:23:03 oh ok Apr 20 10:23:13 thanks Apr 20 10:23:14 and for the lrucache: this is a memory cache and does not cache to disk. so if your app gets destroyed because of memory, the images are lost Apr 20 10:23:51 i suggest you to look into one of those libraries for image loading: Picasso, glide, fresco Apr 20 10:24:01 with them you dont have to manage memory at all. Apr 20 10:24:42 for example Picasso is simply: Picasso.with(context).load(url).into(myImageView) Apr 20 10:24:51 and it takes care of all caching on memory and disk Apr 20 10:25:00 +1 for Picasso Apr 20 10:25:01 ok i will look them Apr 20 10:25:08 thanks a lot Apr 20 10:25:11 yw Apr 20 10:42:13 danijoo: there is getCallingActivity Apr 20 10:42:31 danijoo: really helfpul so I can customize the flow Apr 20 10:42:51 do you know if it is possible to copy categories of intent? or do I need to iterate over it? Apr 20 10:43:04 SneakerXZ, but getCallingActivity does not indicate if the activity is called for result Apr 20 10:43:20 its just the name of the previous activity Apr 20 10:43:26 danijoo: no Apr 20 10:43:27 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16753657/check-if-activity-has-been-called-for-result Apr 20 10:43:36 oh ok. nvm then :) Apr 20 10:44:16 what do you mean with category Apr 20 10:45:38 hi. there's a way on API 17 to totally remove the action bar and the navigation bar? I've found a solution to that, but after the user taps the screen they appears again Apr 20 10:46:02 fortunatly not. Apr 20 10:46:17 why fortunatly? Apr 20 10:46:40 because users dont want to get locked in your app. Apr 20 10:46:52 LucaS05, appcompat + toolbar Apr 20 10:47:25 status bar and navigation buttons will always reappear on tap Apr 20 10:47:31 danijoo: sorry, i've to mention that i need the app to stay in a "kiosk-mode" Apr 20 10:48:09 knapper_tech: what's that? Apr 20 10:49:59 LucaS05, there is a little hack you can do Apr 20 10:50:34 add a service that periodically checks if user starts another app Apr 20 10:50:45 if this happens, quickly start the kiosk app again Apr 20 10:51:14 i think thats all you can do if you dont want to recompile android Apr 20 10:52:00 danijoo: good! but the problem about the action bar is resolved by the kiosk mode, not by the service Apr 20 10:52:20 Is it possible to put 2 horizontal sliding recyclerView grids inside a vertical scrolling ScrollView? (because of some fubar design requirement.) Apr 20 10:52:23 well the actionbar can easily removed via styles.xml Apr 20 10:52:28 LucaS05: Use an MDM supported by the vendor of the device, or compile custom rom, or use 5.0 and screen pinning (needs manual work) Apr 20 10:52:34 just not the statusbar Apr 20 10:52:55 You can't do "kiosk mode" with "normal" application (i.e. without support from MDM) Apr 20 10:53:18 danijoo: sorry i was meaning the status bar Apr 20 10:53:21 claint, holy.... what are you trying to do there? Apr 20 10:53:45 p_l: what's an MDM? Apr 20 10:54:10 Mobile Device Management, for example AirWatch from VMware, etc. Apr 20 10:54:17 p_l: my device supports only 4.2 Apr 20 10:54:25 stuff that integrates with custom vendor SDKs like Samsung Knox Apr 20 10:54:55 danijoo: some fubar design that some "expert UI designer" came up with. Apr 20 10:55:32 guys, my app make a call, but, how to return to my app, after call ends? Apr 20 10:56:16 p_l: do you have some resources about that? Apr 20 10:56:22 do I need to bind to call end event and move my activity foreground? Apr 20 10:56:43 Or is there a simple solution Apr 20 10:56:51 LucaS05: google for MDM and their features, for example VMware AirWatch Apr 20 10:57:44 is there any way for the service to return something to the Activity? Apr 20 10:58:17 Venus_Mars, bind to it Apr 20 10:58:20 or use a bus Apr 20 10:58:34 p_l: so with an MDM is possible to customize android for hiding the status bar and the navigation bar? Apr 20 10:58:48 i want to understand the context Apr 20 10:58:52 LucaS05: it' Apr 20 10:58:57