**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 07 02:59:58 2015
Jun 07 03:04:43 <ESphynx> what does 'Suppressing debuggerd output because prctl(PR_GET_DUMPABLE)==0' mean ?
Jun 07 03:21:28 <tsumego> Is it possible to display the user account image of the current Android user? (e.g. in a board game app, I want to show the current user’s image Vs the character icon they are playing against)
Jun 07 03:21:43 <tsumego> The closest I could find is Google Plus API:  plus.model.people.Person.Image,  which only has methods getUrl and hasUrl, not a direct reference to an image file: https://developers.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gms/plus/model/people/Person.Image
Jun 07 03:22:58 <luist> how can i run a project that requites android:Theme.Material.Light on a API 18 tablet? can i just remove this requirement?
Jun 07 03:25:45 <paulo_> hello
Jun 07 03:25:51 <paulo_> do your apps get less used on weekends?
Jun 07 03:25:57 <paulo_> sunday seems like a low day.
Jun 07 03:47:02 <ESphynx> any idea about this prctl(PR_GET_DUMPABLE)==0 ? can't get a proper call stack?
Jun 07 04:00:47 <ESphynx>  Suppressing debuggerd output because prctl(PR_GET_DUMPABLE)==0 ?
Jun 07 04:07:59 <ESphynx> well calling SET_DUMPABLE, 1 gets me some kind of a call stack
Jun 07 04:09:37 <NateRiver> Can anyone guess how they programmed the words in this app screenshot? how do they get they check the length of the word textview in order to push it to new line when necessary?  http://www.windowscentral.com/sites/wpcentral.com/files/field/image/2014/12/duolingo-windows-phone-translate-screen.jpg
Jun 07 04:12:47 <Gryd3> To anyone interested, I found a solution to some android devices classifying ALL audio on a phone as music (ends up auto-playing ringtones, notifications, and alarms in the music player...)
Jun 07 04:13:55 <Gryd3> You do need to be root, but this command will modify the internal media store and remove the 'music' flag, while ensuring the notification flag is properly set for any audio in a Directory starting with /notification
Jun 07 04:13:57 <Gryd3> sqlite3 -batch '/data/data/com.android.providers.media/databases/external.db' \
Jun 07 04:13:57 <Gryd3> "UPDATE files SET is_music = '0' is_notification = '1' WHERE _data LIKE '%/notification%' AND is_music = 1;"
Jun 07 04:14:35 <Gryd3> I've fought with this for a while, and hope it helps someone. (Using .nomedia files failes, and adding all the custom tones into the ROM directly takes up too much space)
Jun 07 04:22:20 <Agamemnus> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/04/150401-travel-adventure-world-countries-ngbooktalk/
Jun 07 04:25:13 <NateRiver> Trying to use layouts in the designer is annoying af, they always snap and expand to places you dont specify
Jun 07 04:26:13 <TacticalJoke> I don't think I've ever used the designer.
Jun 07 04:26:18 <TacticalJoke> Other than to preview things.
Jun 07 04:26:26 <pfn> that's how layouts worj
Jun 07 04:27:02 <NateRiver> theyre very dumb though
Jun 07 04:27:20 <NateRiver> like the AI that drives them is from 1995
Jun 07 04:29:33 <Drakonas> Question (probably noobish): Do I actually have to build CM just to simply attempt to build this executable. I don't need the entire rom built. I just want to build the executable to use with my current rom. https://github.com/l3iggs/android_external_sshfs
Jun 07 04:29:44 <Drakonas> To clarify, this is the error output I get. It seems to need an object file (which none exist yet since I haven't built the rom) http://pastebin.com/ZmawVF1E
Jun 07 04:30:09 <CedricBeust> Drakonas: You should try #android-root
Jun 07 04:30:19 <Drakonas> lol... my apologies
Jun 07 04:30:31 <CedricBeust> No worries
Jun 07 04:30:51 <Drakonas> thank you sir/madam
Jun 07 04:31:03 <Drakonas> sir
Jun 07 04:31:04 <Drakonas> woops
Jun 07 04:31:33 <Drakonas> that's an unintentional laugh.. *embarrassed
Jun 07 04:31:52 <groxx> NateRiver: nothing in that screen looks at all different than a stock TextView
Jun 07 04:38:45 <NateRiver> groxx? you know the words fly up in the order you press them?
Jun 07 04:41:33 <NateRiver> groxx i think i figured it out, i theres a getwidth method, so after i set the text i can call that and if the currentLIne plus the next word is > then row getWidth it starts a new line- its a super dynamic thing though because tapping a word recalls it back
Jun 07 04:42:23 <groxx> NateRiver: not sure which "words fly up" you mean
Jun 07 04:43:41 <NateRiver> like they insert and remove themselves in order you press them and the animation makes them fly around
Jun 07 04:45:08 <groxx> aah.  yeah, that's probably just a custom layout moving some textviews around.  e.g. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2014/05/android-custom-layout/ + animations.
Jun 07 04:46:55 <g00s> hm, didn't the last support lib add drag - drop support and swipe to dismiss ? i saw that on a slide somewhere the past few days
Jun 07 04:47:01 <g00s> to recyclerview
Jun 07 04:48:02 <NateRiver> groxx can you still use animations to move textviews around in a relative layout?
Jun 07 04:48:49 <groxx> NateRiver: view.animate().translateX(x).translateY(y) will do it
Jun 07 04:49:13 <NateRiver> okay, so relativelayout can understand x and y?
Jun 07 04:50:12 <g00s> hm, ItemTouchHelper :)
Jun 07 04:52:24 <yoavst> Can I save MediaStore.Audio.Albums.ALBUM_ART Url?
Jun 07 04:52:39 <yoavst> s/url/uri
Jun 07 04:54:22 <bilb_ono> is it possible to have an image view that has no xml markup?
Jun 07 04:54:30 <bilb_ono> and everything is set programmatically
Jun 07 04:54:53 <Levite> bilb_ono sure
Jun 07 04:59:54 <bilb_ono> Levite, so is setImageResource(R.drawable.myimage); exactly equivalent to android:src?
Jun 07 05:00:41 <rrr> what does canary channel mean?
Jun 07 05:00:56 <Levite> I believe so -- they just take an int
Jun 07 05:00:57 <CedricBeust> Bleeding edge, not quite stable but with the latest features
Jun 07 05:02:20 <rrr> canary is a kind of bird?
Jun 07 05:02:40 <CedricBeust> It's a reference to the canary in a coal mine
Jun 07 05:03:11 <rrr> what is it? i don't know
Jun 07 05:03:17 <groxx> canary means "I like bugs slightly less than automated nightly releases usually cause"
Jun 07 05:03:32 <CedricBeust> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/canary_in_a_coal_mine
Jun 07 05:03:48 <CedricBeust> Basically, you're the canary :)
Jun 07 05:04:40 <bilb_ono> Levite, so why do they take different arguments? like I can do android:background="#000", but imageview.setBackground("#000") is invalid
Jun 07 05:05:29 <Levite> setBackground takes an object Drawable
Jun 07 05:07:15 <bilb_ono> right I guess they just don't seem equivalent then. but I guess they do the same thing still?
Jun 07 05:07:24 <rrr> CedricBeust: i get it from the wiki. interesting
Jun 07 05:09:14 <Levite> right, they don't all have equivalents
Jun 07 05:09:28 <rrr> i feel gradle build is quite slow comparing with eclipse. something wrong with my setting?
Jun 07 05:09:43 <CedricBeust> No, gradle is slow
Jun 07 05:09:55 <Levite> it's easy enough to declare your constants in XML though
Jun 07 05:10:48 <rrr> CedricBeust: then why i am advised to switch to AS/gradle?
Jun 07 05:11:14 <CedricBeust> rrr: They are both the standard now, for better or worse
Jun 07 05:12:31 <rrr> CedricBeust: why should we adopt a standard slower than its previous?
Jun 07 05:12:33 <g00s> CedricBeust how is your next blog post coming on the notification stuff :)
Jun 07 05:12:34 <NateRiver> when your creating a new button programatically in a fragment why do you need to give it a context?
Jun 07 05:13:01 <CedricBeust> rrr: The combination has upsides overall, but it's not a slam dunk. We lost a few things in the process...
Jun 07 05:13:18 <danijoo> NateRiver, it must know that its part of the context it lives in ;)
Jun 07 05:13:21 <CedricBeust> g00s: It's still simmering and I'm still changing the implementation, so not quite ready yet
Jun 07 05:13:33 <g00s> i noticed Manning is coming out with a Kotlin book
Jun 07 05:13:52 <g00s> i think that is pretty important. like frank zappa said, every country needs an airline and a beer
Jun 07 05:14:28 <rrr> CedricBeust: could you elaborate a bit? i am kind of lost
Jun 07 05:14:51 <CedricBeust> rrr: Gradle is extremely flexible, more so than maven or ant
Jun 07 05:15:01 <NateRiver> thanks danijoo
Jun 07 05:15:02 <CedricBeust> but its DSL is arcane and requires a lot of guesswork
Jun 07 05:15:28 <CedricBeust> As for Android Studio, I prefer Eclipse myself and I still find it sad my former colleagues decided to switchto Android Studio
Jun 07 05:15:29 <g00s> yeah looking at the DSL and guessing whats going on with groovy is like trying to hold water in your hands
Jun 07 05:15:38 <CedricBeust> I miss incremental compilaion, smooth DDMS and logcat integration
Jun 07 05:15:49 <NateRiver> If im creating buttons in a for loop is it safte to set their IDs to the iterator i? or will there be other things with ids like 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc
Jun 07 05:15:57 <danijoo> didnt they say we will get incremental compilation soon (tm)
Jun 07 05:16:14 <CedricBeust> danijoo: They've been saying this forever, can't understand why it still hasn't happened
Jun 07 05:16:25 <danijoo> yeah :/
Jun 07 05:16:40 <g00s> hm, vax said they wanted to get the gradle plugin correct first
Jun 07 05:16:44 <g00s> *Xav
Jun 07 05:16:48 <g00s> lol
Jun 07 05:16:54 <danijoo> maybe with jack & jill
Jun 07 05:17:55 <CedricBeust> Incremental compilation would be an IDEA feature, nothing specific with AS so I doubt that Android has much to do with its delay (or it not ever appearing)
Jun 07 05:21:15 <rrr> it is a pain for full gradle sync/build everytime after an edit in build.gradle
Jun 07 05:21:45 <CedricBeust> Yes, and on top of that you need to trigger it manually, which boggles my mind in 201
Jun 07 05:21:47 <CedricBeust> 2015
Jun 07 05:21:53 <CedricBeust> Eclipse requires so much less manual work
Jun 07 05:22:41 <danijoo> theres a lot of possible optimization required at this point
Jun 07 05:25:13 <rrr> CedricBeust: actually it is automatic (but annoying) in the latest canary build
Jun 07 05:25:24 <CedricBeust> rrr: so I heard, yes
Jun 07 05:25:50 <danijoo> for android, does it really matter if I do something in Schedulers.computation() or Schedulers.io()? Arent they all just "not main thead"?
Jun 07 05:26:38 <g00s> they are slightly different ...
Jun 07 05:26:45 <g00s> maybe the way the thread pool works
Jun 07 05:26:52 <CedricBeust> danijoo: There are huge differences
Jun 07 05:27:07 <CedricBeust> Only mainThread() is main thread, the others are background threads
Jun 07 05:27:30 <CedricBeust> on top of that, io() is backed by an unbounded thread pool while computation() is a fixed thread pool. Be very careful with io()
Jun 07 05:28:01 <danijoo> makes sense
Jun 07 05:28:03 <CedricBeust> I try to avoid them all overall, I define my own schedulers. Thread management is too important to be left to libraries
Jun 07 05:28:20 <g00s> danijoo did you see dan lew's youtube rxjava talk from the other day ?
Jun 07 05:28:54 <danijoo> g00s, no. I just dived into Rx yesterday evening and try to crawl my way through some wikis right now
Jun 07 05:29:18 <g00s> ah ok, after getting the basics see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt-_oVQVZlQ
Jun 07 05:29:19 <CedricBeust> danijoo: Take an existing activity and rethink it in terms of Rx. Best way to get your feet wet IMO
Jun 07 05:29:28 <g00s> kinda hodgepodge of stuff, but decent
Jun 07 05:29:46 <danijoo> CedricBeust, I already have a usecase for this. Some really ugly beast that needs a rework anyways
Jun 07 05:29:56 <CedricBeust> danijoo: Enjoy and report back!
Jun 07 05:30:02 <danijoo> just have to get a lot of the basics first. Rx really requires some rethinking ..
Jun 07 05:30:52 <CedricBeust> danijoo: Yes, that's why I chose that angle in my series of blog posts. I didn't want to go over the boring list of operators or benefits of transformations so instead, I showd the end goal and walked through how to get there when thinking in terms of observables
Jun 07 05:31:22 <danijoo> they are really well done
Jun 07 05:31:23 <danijoo> :)
Jun 07 05:31:29 <CedricBeust> Thanks, appreciate that
Jun 07 05:32:28 * g00s is highly anticipating Quasar for android
Jun 07 05:32:43 <g00s> hopefully it will work with kotlin on android too
Jun 07 05:33:06 <g00s> since they already have kotlin support :)
Jun 07 05:33:08 <CedricBeust> I'm not convinced Quasar would be useful for Android but we'll see, I like the guys behind it
Jun 07 05:33:35 <g00s> there are enough areas where my rx doesn't feel right, but i don't think i'm doing it wrong
Jun 07 05:33:54 <g00s> usually around areas where i need to escape the monad
Jun 07 05:34:26 <g00s> usually around android lifecycle crap
Jun 07 05:34:35 <g00s> and callbacks
Jun 07 05:35:30 <CedricBeust> g00s: Feel free to pastebin
Jun 07 05:38:12 <rrr> could i use java8 feature in android dev?
Jun 07 05:38:28 <pfn> rrr, not our
Jun 07 05:38:31 <danijoo> nope. but theres retrolambda
Jun 07 05:38:32 <CedricBeust> rrr: There's something called Retrolambda which will give you the lambda syntax (but that's it)
Jun 07 05:38:36 <pfn> out of the box
Jun 07 05:38:53 <pfn> the lambda syntax is huge
Jun 07 05:39:20 <pfn> a proper type system would be nice
Jun 07 05:39:41 <rrr> i see some android code uses -> and wonder
Jun 07 05:40:52 <rrr> but no hurt to point JAVA_HOME to JDK8 in android dev, right?
Jun 07 05:41:28 <danijoo> its fine. you just cannot use its features
Jun 07 05:41:28 <CedricBeust> Yup that's fine, I build with java8 myself
Jun 07 05:42:48 <pfn> rrr, no android code uses ->
Jun 07 05:43:38 <CedricBeust> pfn: uh?
Jun 07 05:44:18 <danijoo> R adds a lot of object overhead, doesnt it?
Jun 07 05:44:31 <pfn> ?
Jun 07 05:44:32 <danijoo> Rx*
Jun 07 05:44:33 <danijoo> :)
Jun 07 05:44:45 <danijoo> I need a new keyboard >.<
Jun 07 05:45:37 * CedricBeust is partial to Microsoft's Natural keyboards
Jun 07 05:45:42 * pfn has gotten to the point where he doesn't care
Jun 07 05:45:48 <yoavst> g00s: do you use this Quasar framework?
Jun 07 05:45:56 <pfn> overhead doesn't matter until it impacts performance
Jun 07 05:45:56 <yoavst> I saw a post in kotlin blog about them
Jun 07 05:46:48 <pfn> writing elegant, maintainable code is of far more import
Jun 07 05:46:49 <g00s> yoavst not yet, i looked into it a few years ago but since it didn't work on android i forgot about it
Jun 07 05:47:19 <yoavst> http://i.imgur.com/MsgLYTJ.png Is it possible to set nav bar to semi transparent like in the picture? I cannot get it to work on lollipop
Jun 07 05:47:41 <yoavst> It works for nav drawer, but not for my fragment
Jun 07 05:49:13 <yoavst> (It hides my fragment content, but not navigation drawer)
Jun 07 05:50:56 <g00s> CedricBeust for example, startForeground requires a notification, but the value i want to put in that notification is from an Observable
Jun 07 05:51:01 <paulo_> can I pair with more than one bluetooth device?
Jun 07 05:51:14 <g00s> paulo_ sure
Jun 07 05:51:41 <CedricBeust> observable.subscribe(value -> startNotification(value))?
Jun 07 05:52:17 <paulo_> g00s: ok, I plan to make a multiplayer version of something. It has 4 players. So I just pair with the other 3 devices?
Jun 07 05:53:20 <danijoo> paulo_, look at Play Games Services if it does not have to work offline
Jun 07 05:53:39 <paulo_> danijoo: right now, i'm implementing offline.
Jun 07 05:54:04 <danijoo> although its possible, you rarely see games using bluetooth
Jun 07 05:54:12 <danijoo> its too crappy for most things
Jun 07 05:54:29 <paulo_> danijoo: hmm ok. I'll probably skip bluetooth for now.
Jun 07 05:56:09 <paulo_> it's three types of multiplayer people are requesting: local wifi, play services, bluetooth
Jun 07 05:56:37 <paulo_> I don't really want to implement all requests, though.
Jun 07 05:56:51 <paulo_> I keep reading, that's counter-productive
Jun 07 05:56:58 <danijoo> play services is the easiest i think.
Jun 07 05:57:07 <yoavst> http://i.imgur.com/ujSnoyf.jpg What do you think?
Jun 07 05:57:28 <paulo_> danijoo: do they use the google account for that?
Jun 07 05:57:33 <danijoo> yoavst, about the design?
Jun 07 05:57:36 <danijoo> paulo_, yup
Jun 07 05:57:58 <paulo_> danijoo: it says it also works for iOS though. what account do they use for that?
Jun 07 05:58:08 <danijoo> no idea.
Jun 07 05:58:16 <yoavst> danijoo: sure :)
Jun 07 05:58:25 <danijoo> yoavst, toolbar needs shadow :)
Jun 07 05:58:31 <danijoo> to match the cards
Jun 07 05:58:49 <yoavst> shouldn't it be enabled automatically?
Jun 07 05:58:54 <yoavst> how do I enable it?
Jun 07 05:58:55 <danijoo> only on L
Jun 07 05:59:12 <yoavst> I'm on L... ;)
Jun 07 05:59:17 <danijoo> then it should.
Jun 07 05:59:28 <danijoo> if it has the right elevation
Jun 07 06:00:05 <yoavst> What size of shadow should it have?
Jun 07 06:00:20 <danijoo> i think its elevation of 4
Jun 07 06:00:33 <paulo_> danijoo: ok, i'll do Play Services for now.
Jun 07 06:01:11 <yoavst> Ok done. Anything else?
Jun 07 06:01:28 <paulo_> danijoo: wait, what if I want to test the app, are there implementation for dummy accounts for Play Services??
Jun 07 06:01:49 <danijoo> paulo_, i never used Games services myself
Jun 07 06:02:02 <paulo_> danijoo: hmm ok. this should be interesting.
Jun 07 06:03:39 <g00s> CedricBeust hm, but lets say you are invoking startForeground() from Service.onStartCommand() - and the observable is not emitting on the UI thread. If you do .observeOn() then this gets queued up and happens sometime after startcommand
Jun 07 06:04:20 <CedricBeust> Then observe on the main thread
Jun 07 06:04:33 <g00s> right but that will queue the rx notification
Jun 07 06:04:58 <CedricBeust> Not for very long, what's the problem?
Jun 07 06:06:00 <g00s> maybe a better example is onPrepareOptionsMenu(). and the value of a menu item is from an observable. But the menu has to be initialized on exit from that function. of you observeOn() .. and queue that RX notification again, that will run after that method
Jun 07 06:14:44 <bilb_ono> are attrs passed in to the constructors of a custom view generated by the xml? Or can they be generated with setImageResource
Jun 07 06:14:52 <bilb_ono> for example, and other programmatic methods?
Jun 07 06:15:56 <g00s> bilb_ono the attrs will be passed to the ctor. see the docs they are pretty good
Jun 07 06:15:58 <g00s> in this area
Jun 07 06:17:29 <Levite> bilb_ono like this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2884501/android-custom-view-constructor
Jun 07 06:26:18 <pfn> g00s, placeholder the menu
Jun 07 06:26:37 <pfn> g00s, or make it invisible until the observable is ready
Jun 07 06:27:32 <pfn> g00s, happening after on start is not a problem
Jun 07 06:28:02 <g00s> pfn yeah that was a bad example
Jun 07 06:44:07 <NateRiver> I feel like if my code were a real object it would be kept together by ducktape and tons of wood glue and look really ugly
Jun 07 06:44:42 <NateRiver> They should make a library called DuckTape  and you could @Tape
Jun 07 06:45:45 <rrr_> what does MNC in preview mean?
Jun 07 06:47:01 <rrr> what does MNC in preview mean?
Jun 07 06:47:31 <Levite> metadata not compiled
Jun 07 06:47:35 <liuwenhao> macadamia nut cookie
Jun 07 06:47:52 <liuwenhao> i wish i was joking
Jun 07 06:48:08 <liuwenhao> i hope that's not the official name once it's live because it's terrible
Jun 07 06:54:56 <danijoo> liuwenhao, no. it will just be 23 or so
Jun 07 06:55:05 <danijoo> the letters are just for the preview
Jun 07 06:56:45 <g00s> meh that dan lew video on rx ... to many errors
Jun 07 07:08:19 <danijoo> rxandroid needs better docs >.<
Jun 07 07:09:32 <rrr> anyone tried genymotion?
Jun 07 07:09:44 <danijoo> rrr, yes. a lot of us use it
Jun 07 07:10:31 <rrr> how is it good?
Jun 07 07:10:38 <danijoo> its awesome
Jun 07 07:11:14 <rrr> i could not get list of avds after login
Jun 07 07:11:59 <rrr> don't know where wrong
Jun 07 07:12:53 <danijoo> i dont use the avds since genymotion
Jun 07 07:12:59 <danijoo> rarely used them before
Jun 07 07:13:13 <g00s> lol, dolphins != fuel, did anyone else see that
Jun 07 07:15:09 <NateRiver> danijoo they really improved the AVD like 2 months ago! now it loads faster than geny
Jun 07 07:15:34 <danijoo> NateRiver, but geny is still more futurerich
Jun 07 07:15:43 <danijoo> because of all those testing tools
Jun 07 07:15:59 <danijoo> one click and i can do things like throttle network speed or send sms
Jun 07 07:16:18 <rrr> danijoo: they are not called avds in genymotion?
Jun 07 07:16:35 <NateRiver> i spose, it stopped working for me one day because i had free version so i just never troubleshooted it and went back to avd
Jun 07 07:17:13 <danijoo> rrr, call it what you want :)
Jun 07 07:17:36 <danijoo> i think genymotion is not an emulator but a simulator if you want to be exact
Jun 07 07:18:00 <NateRiver> rrr they are called red-haired gennys
Jun 07 07:18:10 <rrr> danijoo: genyomtion is a virtual machine
Jun 07 07:18:16 <rrr> based on virtualbox
Jun 07 07:18:31 <rrr> how about buck?
Jun 07 07:18:49 <danijoo> i dont really care what is is
Jun 07 07:18:53 <danijoo> it just have to work
Jun 07 07:18:57 <danijoo> and thats what it does :)
Jun 07 07:18:58 <g00s> buck seems undocumented
Jun 07 07:19:41 <rrr> it goes like crazy i just could not keep up with the trend
Jun 07 07:21:01 <rrr> 1 year or 2 years after then everything tool is changed
Jun 07 07:22:07 <donniezazen> Genymotion guys only release after an official Android version is released. They don't track previews. Is that correct?
Jun 07 07:24:04 <g00s> one of the unfortunate things about geny, and android in general, is the licensing of GMS
Jun 07 07:24:19 <g00s> it was a year ago, i thought they said they were working on it
Jun 07 07:24:26 <g00s> but nothing ever happened :(
Jun 07 07:24:52 <rrr> what is GMS?
Jun 07 07:24:52 <g00s> so if you are going to use play services, gotta use official qemu stuff
Jun 07 07:24:56 <g00s> Play Services
Jun 07 07:25:56 <donniezazen> and emulator is fairly fast IMHO with HAXM.
Jun 07 07:26:21 <danijoo> donniezazen, we had an android L preview version of genymotion
Jun 07 07:26:26 <danijoo> if just took some tim
Jun 07 07:26:27 <danijoo> e
Jun 07 07:26:56 <donniezazen> Do you guys generally run just one emulator or more than one?
Jun 07 07:27:07 <donniezazen> At the same time.
Jun 07 07:27:11 <danijoo> i run 2-3
Jun 07 07:27:30 <danijoo> but that really depends on what im working on
Jun 07 07:27:42 <danijoo> multiple when Its about design, only one for logic
Jun 07 07:27:54 <donniezazen> That should total to around 5GB of RAM.
Jun 07 07:28:27 <danijoo> donniezazen, I currently have one gemymotion emu running
Jun 07 07:28:42 <danijoo> Nexus4, Android 5. 150mb ram from task manager
Jun 07 07:29:50 <danijoo> http://prntscr.com/7e2tpx
Jun 07 07:33:08 <donniezazen> danijoo: https://imgur.com/yFC4Ayq taking 1GB RAM without any app running
Jun 07 07:33:32 <danijoo> so its another pro of genymotion i think
Jun 07 07:33:32 <donniezazen> Nexus_5_API_22
Jun 07 07:35:25 <donniezazen> RAM is generally not a problem because unused RAM is wasted anyways.
Jun 07 07:35:45 <donniezazen> 18877 donnie    20   0 3729188 1.059g  78136 R  13.6 14.0   1:36.10 emulator64-x86
Jun 07 07:35:55 <paulo_> How do I respond to people asking me how I make from my apps?
Jun 07 07:35:59 <paulo_> *how much
Jun 07 07:36:04 <donniezazen> Usually system gets too hot and then everything start crawling.
Jun 07 07:36:44 <donniezazen> paulo_: whatever makes them happy.
Jun 07 07:37:06 <danijoo> unless gradle eats it :D
Jun 07 07:37:10 <paulo_> donniezazen: that's a bit vauge
Jun 07 07:38:18 <danijoo> depends on how much you make i think :p
Jun 07 07:38:26 <donniezazen> :)
Jun 07 07:39:37 <danijoo> if they come to your mansion to ask that, theres no point in saying "not enough to live" :p
Jun 07 07:45:19 <donniezazen> If I don't use -noaudio then emu starts consuming 100% of CPU. I believe there is no way to add commandline options to emu via AS.
Jun 07 07:47:08 <g00s> if i dont use -noaudio it just crashes :P
Jun 07 07:48:43 <donniezazen> I didn't either but after searching there is a 2 years old emu-arm bug with a comment that -noaudio fixes it. It worked for x64 too.
Jun 07 07:51:07 <thepoosh> is there a valid was to get all contacts from addressbook that I have sent at least on SMS to?
Jun 07 07:55:13 <Babaum> Hi guys... I need your help
Jun 07 07:56:07 <Babaum> I installed Android Studio on linux and I created a project, but it says to me that "Gradle project sync failed"
Jun 07 07:56:12 <Babaum> what can I do?
Jun 07 07:57:49 <thepoosh> Babaum: check why it failed in the logs and search google for that
Jun 07 07:58:05 <thepoosh> probably importing from the wrong places or failed lint
Jun 07 07:58:23 <thepoosh> g00s: !
Jun 07 07:58:29 <g00s> hey thepoosh !
Jun 07 07:58:41 <thepoosh> been under the weather in the past week or so
Jun 07 07:59:21 <Babaum> The problem seems to be this:
Jun 07 07:59:22 <Babaum> Gradle project resolve error
Jun 07 07:59:22 <Babaum> org.gradle.tooling.GradleConnectionException: Could not run build action using Gradle installation '/home/leonardo/android-studio/gradle/gradle-2.2.1'.
Jun 07 07:59:46 <Babaum> but I don't know how to solve it :/
Jun 07 08:01:12 <g00s> hmm is there a way to merge a changing # of observables ?
Jun 07 08:01:18 <g00s> (rxjava)
Jun 07 08:09:15 <NateRiver> java.lang.NullPointerException: Attempt to invoke virtual method 'int android.widget.RelativeLayout.getWidth()' on a null object reference why does getWidth do this i created the Relative layout in xml
Jun 07 08:10:52 <SimonVT> The variable you're calling getWidth on is null.. It's that simple
Jun 07 08:10:55 <SimonVT> Now find out why
Jun 07 08:11:05 <Agamemnus> :(
Jun 07 08:11:25 <danijoo> NateRiver, view not initialized yet maybe
Jun 07 08:11:27 <NateRiver> i do this line right before getWidth RelativeLayout rL2 = (RelativeLayout) v.findViewById(R.id.row1);
Jun 07 08:11:30 <danijoo> dont do this in oncreate
Jun 07 08:11:51 <NateRiver> hmm yeah it is onCreateView
Jun 07 08:12:15 <danijoo> ;)
Jun 07 08:13:35 <Levite> I like how it's impossible to detect a redirect in a webview. because why would anyone ever want to do that, google
Jun 07 08:14:17 <Agamemnus> that is not true
Jun 07 08:14:31 <Levite> please, enlighten me
Jun 07 08:14:37 <danijoo> you can get the response code, cant you?
Jun 07 08:14:44 <Agamemnus> you can overwrite the getter for window.location.href
Jun 07 08:14:50 <Agamemnus> well not entirely true
Jun 07 08:14:53 <Agamemnus> i mean setter*
Jun 07 08:15:03 <Levite> that doesn't work for server redirects
Jun 07 08:15:17 <NateRiver> danijoo where else should i do it do you think? onCreateView passes things like LayoutInflater and ViewGroup that i need to findViewById?
Jun 07 08:15:37 <danijoo> NateRiver, i dont know what you are trying to do. how can i tell?
Jun 07 08:15:38 <Agamemnus> server redirects aren't redirects tho
Jun 07 08:18:05 <NateRiver> Also i need to getWidth dynamically, so i need to create a textView and then check what its width is when wrapContent adjusts for its text and then add the next TextView based on that width
Jun 07 08:20:00 <danijoo> NateRiver, measure the view, then you can get its width
Jun 07 08:20:54 <danijoo> with unspecified specs
Jun 07 08:21:42 <danijoo> RxAndroid is not really complete, it it?
Jun 07 08:22:11 <gdrc> why not?
Jun 07 08:22:36 <danijoo> no expandablelistview subscriber for example
Jun 07 09:04:55 <s9iper1> i have written custom ime keyboard sometimes it is not shown  in some input boxes. but default keyboard is shown any suggestions ?
Jun 07 09:22:16 <NateRiver> danijoo other things in onCreateView call v.findViewById and they arent null in debugger, but as soon as i use a method to minimize code and pass in View v anything that uses v.findViewById in the method is null... weird
Jun 07 09:22:52 <danijoo> show the code
Jun 07 09:24:38 <NateRiver> like in a pastebin?
Jun 07 09:25:04 <danijoo> yes
Jun 07 09:26:09 <thepoosh> NateRiver: sounds like you're obfuscating the wrong things
Jun 07 09:31:47 <NateRiver> http://pastebin.com/FNh5KXJ6 danijoo thepoosh i just moved the method back into the onCreateView, the debugger says line 9 relative layout has a value and is not null, but when the it gives nullpointer on .getWidth
Jun 07 09:32:24 <danijoo> NateRiver, so its not the view that gives you the null
Jun 07 09:32:25 <thepoosh> omfg, your var names
Jun 07 09:32:40 <thepoosh> where is the exception thrown?
Jun 07 09:32:44 <danijoo> youcant get width in onCreateView(). its not set yet
Jun 07 09:32:49 <NateRiver> 9-11
Jun 07 09:33:09 <thepoosh> sounds like v is not null but it finds nothing
Jun 07 09:33:24 <danijoo> NateRiver, you cant get width before its measured (still)
Jun 07 09:33:36 <NateRiver> i tried the getMeasuredWidth and it quits upon calling that
Jun 07 09:34:12 <danijoo> NateRiver, you CANT.
Jun 07 09:34:13 <NateRiver> Maybe if i just make a new relativeLayout in code and then add it to the linear layout?
Jun 07 09:34:23 <danijoo> then you still CANT
Jun 07 09:35:00 <danijoo> you try to getMeasuredWith before the view is added to the viewport. It has not a width in onCreateView and whatever you do it wont have unless you measure it manually
Jun 07 09:36:17 <NateRiver> im trying to do something like this, it starts a new row whenever the word is too big for the line http://www.theappzine.com/sites/default/files/styles/screenshot_full/public/duolingo%202.PNG?itok=QpwCQioc how do you think they did it?
Jun 07 09:37:08 <danijoo> NateRiver, use a library
Jun 07 09:37:49 <NateRiver> whats even the purpose of getWidth, where would you ever use it
Jun 07 09:38:03 <danijoo> NateRiver, everywhere after onCreateView
Jun 07 09:38:13 <danijoo> or still: measure it manually
Jun 07 09:38:30 <danijoo> I think thats what you want to use: https://github.com/mitmel/Locast-Core-Android/blob/master/src/se/fnord/android/layout/PredicateLayout.java
Jun 07 09:39:09 <drogo90> Hello Guys
Jun 07 09:40:00 <drogo90> i got a problem with eclipse, i just switched to it today from unity but when i try to import my source it keeps telling me : AndroidManifest.xml:27: error: Error: No resource found that matches the given name (at 'value' with value '@integer/google_play_services_version').
Jun 07 09:40:12 <drogo90> altough i do exactly as described in this video- >http://youtu.be/90i_nycQTUg
Jun 07 09:40:21 <drogo90> i installed all available SDK versions
Jun 07 09:41:39 <NateRiver> ohhh so theres things like onLayoutView i could do it in, i guess i didnt know there was anything after onCreateView i usually put all my code in there
Jun 07 09:42:12 <danijoo> NateRiver, the common way is to require logic that modifies views in onActivityCreated for fragments
Jun 07 09:42:24 <danijoo> thats the earliest point where layout is measured and getView() is set
Jun 07 09:43:35 <NateRiver> because the fragment is created first and then the Activity
Jun 07 09:43:45 <danijoo> no
Jun 07 09:43:50 <danijoo> the naming of the method just sucks
Jun 07 09:44:58 <danijoo> "Called when the fragment's activity has been created and this fragment's view hierarchy instantiated. It can be used to do final initialization once these pieces are in place, such as retrieving views or restoring state."
Jun 07 09:46:15 <drogo90> no one? i think its a very basic problem since i am completely new into developing
Jun 07 09:46:42 <drogo90> i tried to place the google play libs in the same folder as the gradle project files but the problem still appears
Jun 07 09:47:25 <danijoo> drogo90, will take a while until somebody shows up that actually uses eclipse
Jun 07 09:47:30 <danijoo> most devs switched away from it
Jun 07 09:47:32 <adq> drogo90, you should search on stackoverflow, keep in mind eclipse is not supported anymore (almost) and you should move to Android Studio. @integer/google_play_services_version is just a value inside one of your dependency of gplay
Jun 07 09:47:43 <adq> so maybe you did not add properly the dep
Jun 07 09:48:03 <drogo90> can i take my existing source and use it in android studio?
Jun 07 09:48:17 <adq> I think so
Jun 07 09:48:20 <drogo90> i dont have the skills to create code form scratch, i just work with reskinning games at the moment
Jun 07 09:48:26 <drogo90> ok i will try it
Jun 07 09:48:30 <rrr> project structure says the gradle version is 2.2.1 but the installed version is 2.4, where does 2.2.1 come from?
Jun 07 09:49:06 <NateRiver> okay so ill put code in onActivityCreated
Jun 07 09:49:17 <danijoo> rrr, where do you got that "installed version" from?
Jun 07 09:49:21 <danijoo> installed it manually?
Jun 07 09:49:53 <rrr> danijoo: it is under android studio/gradle folder
Jun 07 09:50:08 <drogo90> anyone have a simple 2d siderunner source hed like to share?
Jun 07 09:50:31 <adq> search on github or on the big internet
Jun 07 09:50:43 <danijoo> rrr usually the one that is set in yourapp/gradle is used
Jun 07 09:51:17 <rrr> danijoo: I don't see where it is set
Jun 07 09:51:17 <drogo90> if possible i would like to have the permission from the coder to use it, i think the ones on github are all just for learning purpose right?
Jun 07 09:51:30 <drogo90> i bought 2 sources on codecanyon but id like to also have a simple 2d siderunner
Jun 07 09:51:33 <danijoo> rrr gradle-wrapper.properties file
Jun 07 09:51:45 <danijoo> there is a link to a zip that is used when you press gradle-sync
Jun 07 09:52:10 <danijoo> http://prntscr.com/7e3qmr
Jun 07 09:56:27 <danijoo> drogo90, read the licenses
Jun 07 09:56:41 <danijoo> they will tell you if you are allowed to use them
Jun 07 09:57:50 <danijoo> but you should learn programming first :p
Jun 07 10:00:11 <NateRiver> is it weird that i never use libraries ?
Jun 07 10:00:21 <danijoo> not weird but stupid :p
Jun 07 10:00:31 <rrr> so if i change the zip from 2.2.1 to 2.4 then 2.4 will be used?
Jun 07 10:00:38 <NateRiver> i guess i need to research them
Jun 07 10:01:13 <danijoo> rrr yes
Jun 07 10:01:26 <danijoo> or just change it in module settings
Jun 07 10:02:08 <danijoo> Before i do anything, I search if somebody did that before me and published it as lib
Jun 07 10:02:47 <NateRiver> i guess i just dont know what id search for most of the time
Jun 07 10:03:03 <NateRiver> but that comes with experience!
Jun 07 10:03:20 <rrr> danijoo: in model settings, do you use offline mode?
Jun 07 10:03:32 <rrr> module
Jun 07 10:03:36 <danijoo> NateRiver, for example you should search for "predicateLayout", which does what you are currently implementing
Jun 07 10:03:51 <danijoo> rrr on my laptop, i do
Jun 07 10:04:25 <rrr> what is the diff between offline and online?
Jun 07 10:04:52 <danijoo> one is for offline the other for online mode :p
Jun 07 10:07:38 <rrr> what is android plugin version in module settings?
Jun 07 10:07:46 <rrr> 1.1.0
Jun 07 10:08:34 <danijoo> whats your guess?
Jun 07 10:08:45 <rrr> also the shortcut F4 for open module settings does not work at all.
Jun 07 10:09:00 <danijoo> works for me
Jun 07 10:10:12 <danijoo> its not a global shortcut. you must select the module first
Jun 07 10:11:09 <rrr> ah yes
Jun 07 10:11:34 <rrr> i guess it is android plugin for intellij
Jun 07 10:11:57 <danijoo> wrong :p
Jun 07 10:12:00 <danijoo> you have another try
Jun 07 10:13:54 <rrr> plugin for gradle?
Jun 07 10:14:05 <danijoo> yup
Jun 07 10:16:07 <rrr> AGPBI: {"kind":"ERROR","text":"Attribute \"titleTextStyle\" has already been defined","sourcePath":"D:\\workspace\\cycle-time\\app\\build\\intermediates\\exploded-aar\\com.google.android.gms\\play-services-wallet\\7.5.0\\res\\values\\wallet_colors.xml","position":{"startLine":1},"original":""}
Jun 07 10:17:50 <rrr> no titleTextStyle in wallet_colors.xml at all, what the hell is this resulting from gradle build?
Jun 07 10:19:32 <danijoo> whats your gradle file
Jun 07 10:48:26 <ircfox_> Hello folks!
Jun 07 10:48:40 <ircfox_> I am getting this error : java.lang.NullPointerException: Attempt to invoke virtual method 'void android.app.ActionBar.setDisplayHomeAsUpEnabled(boolean)' on a null object reference
Jun 07 10:50:01 <ircfox_> I use android:theme="@style/AppTheme" and the class extends Activity and import android.app.Activity;
Jun 07 10:51:08 <surf2b1> ircfox_: Change getActionBar() to getSupportActionBar()
Jun 07 10:52:05 <ircfox_> surf2b1: how do I use getSupportActionBar() if I am importing Activity?
Jun 07 10:52:36 <surf2b1> What is the parent for "AppTheme"?
Jun 07 10:53:18 <surf2b1> If it is an AppCompat theme you should be extending AppCompatActivity instead of Activity
Jun 07 10:58:00 <ircfox_> surf2b1: I don't understand why is it like that. Why it is not just an Activity import?
Jun 07 10:58:28 <surf2b1> because Google thinks you should use appcompat for backwards compatibility
Jun 07 10:58:41 <ircfox_> surf2b1: now it is working. How do I find a theme parent?
Jun 07 10:58:45 <surf2b1> You can change the theme and use Activity and the native ActionBar if you want
Jun 07 10:58:59 <surf2b1> Go to styles.xml in /res/values
Jun 07 11:03:50 <ircfox> surf2b1: sorry, my computer crashed again.
Jun 07 11:04:26 <ircfox> Is this channel logged?
Jun 07 11:06:12 <danijoo> <ircfox_> surf2b1: I don't understand why is it like that. Why it is not just an Activity import?
Jun 07 11:06:12 <danijoo> <surf2b1> because Google thinks you should use appcompat for backwards compatibility
Jun 07 11:06:12 <danijoo> <ircfox_> surf2b1: now it is working. How do I find a theme parent?
Jun 07 11:06:12 <danijoo> <surf2b1> You can change the theme and use Activity and the native ActionBar if you want
Jun 07 11:06:12 <danijoo> <surf2b1> Go to styles.xml in /res/values
Jun 07 11:06:57 <surf2b1> thanks danijoo
Jun 07 11:07:00 <ircfox> danijoo: thank you! I could read until this point before the crash.
Jun 07 11:09:24 <ircfox> I am getting this weird Apple crashed ever since : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9a76c561f5ff3d5df113
Jun 07 11:09:41 <ircfox> I think it will be fixed within the next upgrade.
Jun 07 11:14:27 <ircfox> surf2b1: actually the value I found on /res/values is <style name="AppTheme" parent="Theme.AppCompat.Light.DarkActionBar">
Jun 07 11:14:55 <surf2b1> Okay, then your Activity should extend AppCompatActivity. Usually the wizard does this for you.
Jun 07 11:15:08 <surf2b1> And you should use getSupportActionBar()
Jun 07 11:15:11 <phix> hi
Jun 07 11:15:14 <phix> leta team
Jun 07 11:17:17 <ircfox> surf2b1: how can I find a theme which doesn't not require extend AppCompactActivity?
Jun 07 11:18:12 <surf2b1> ircfox: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/themes.html
Jun 07 11:19:20 <surf2b1> If you don't use AppCompat then you will be missing out on material for lower API versions
Jun 07 11:21:02 <ircfox> surf2b1: I got it. I am not very worried with lower API compatibility right now. I am reading your paste. Thank you for now! ;)
Jun 07 11:44:43 <mrfreemanblack> hey guys, I pushed my project with android Studio (share project on github function), but my classes aren't pushed to the repository
Jun 07 11:44:49 <mrfreemanblack> can someone tell me why ?
Jun 07 11:45:16 <mrfreemanblack> the package which isn't pushed ist in the color blue
Jun 07 11:45:54 <danijoo> right click it and add it to git
Jun 07 11:45:56 <danijoo> than commit
Jun 07 11:46:01 <danijoo> then push
Jun 07 11:46:46 <mrfreemanblack> alright, I done it.
Jun 07 11:48:32 <mrfreemanblack> But then As says : Commit failed with errors."Your Branch is uptoDate with 'origin/developer'
Jun 07 11:48:47 <mrfreemanblack> Changes not staged for commit
Jun 07 11:49:00 <mrfreemanblack> ch changes added to commit
Jun 07 11:49:05 <mrfreemanblack> no*
Jun 07 11:50:35 <danijoo> #git
Jun 07 11:52:36 <mrfreemanblack> do you know why danijoo ?
Jun 07 11:53:08 <danijoo> no
Jun 07 11:53:15 <danijoo> #git does
Jun 07 11:59:59 <DarkChaoz> i need help my activity keeps crashing when im onclicking an item in grid menu
Jun 07 12:00:08 <DarkChaoz> its giving me a nullpointer exeception
Jun 07 12:00:09 <DarkChaoz> http://pastebin.com/PvD4gn4i
Jun 07 12:00:13 <DarkChaoz> how do i fix?
Jun 07 12:01:04 <danijoo> DarkChaoz, have you ever find help in here without posting the stacktrace?
Jun 07 12:02:50 <DarkChaoz> i just said the error from stacktrace
Jun 07 12:02:57 <DarkChaoz> its nullpointerexception ¬_¬
Jun 07 12:03:04 <danijoo> i give up
Jun 07 12:03:18 <DarkChaoz> but if u insist
Jun 07 12:03:20 <DarkChaoz> hold on
Jun 07 12:03:35 <joroci> don't give up
Jun 07 12:03:53 <DarkChaoz> http://pastebin.com/1qGdWM9n
Jun 07 12:03:55 <danijoo> an exception contains of a message, and more important: the line where its been thrown
Jun 07 12:04:01 <DarkChaoz> line 83
Jun 07 12:04:02 <danijoo> and a trace you can use
Jun 07 12:04:23 <danijoo> if I say you: my app crashs with nullpointer, and give you the whole code of my app. can you fix it? no
Jun 07 12:04:24 <DarkChaoz> but it points to end of the onclick class
Jun 07 12:04:44 <joroci> danijoo i know you need it, but don't give up:)
Jun 07 12:07:10 <danijoo> what the hell
Jun 07 12:07:38 <danijoo> use an itemclickistener on the gridview, and not a clicklistener in the adapter
Jun 07 12:08:25 <danijoo> and the stacktrace points to an empty line so this is not the whole file
Jun 07 12:08:30 <danijoo> i should have given up >.<
Jun 07 12:08:59 <SimonVT> Eh, it's simple
Jun 07 12:09:01 <SimonVT> Result is null
Jun 07 12:09:05 <fsestini> hi guys. i’m having issues trying to create a Location object from my code. I instantiate and use setLatitude and setLongitude, but calling getLatitude and getLongitude returns 0. why is that?
Jun 07 12:09:07 <SimonVT> The debugger could have told him that
Jun 07 12:09:15 <danijoo> i know
Jun 07 12:09:26 <danijoo> I wanted to guide him to debug on his own
Jun 07 12:10:00 <danijoo> now you spoilered him and he will not debug with me :(
Jun 07 12:11:10 <SimonVT> 10 minutes of abuse is enough this time. We'll make it 20 next time
Jun 07 12:11:25 <danijoo> deal :)
Jun 07 12:11:33 <SimonVT> Eventually he'll get enough and learn java and its tools
Jun 07 12:11:44 <danijoo> but you are right
Jun 07 12:11:48 <danijoo> i get to zynic
Jun 07 12:11:51 <danijoo> got*
Jun 07 12:12:16 <danijoo> i sometimes need to get pointed to that
Jun 07 12:12:59 <ktwo> mh, could someone think of a way to get data of the LG G3 or G4's infrared receiver (The one which is used by Quickset Remote / SDK) but without using high-level api? Kinda direct HW access?
Jun 07 12:18:43 <DarkChaoz> Im most likely just going to stick with web development after this app.
Jun 07 12:18:58 <DarkChaoz> Android is just giving me a headache..
Jun 07 12:19:25 <danijoo> you need to initialize your array before using it
Jun 07 12:20:07 <DarkChaoz> i switched to the string list instead of result
Jun 07 12:22:50 <DarkChaoz> is it better to put the onitemclick in oncreate or in the getview?
Jun 07 12:22:56 <DarkChaoz> or doesnt it matter?
Jun 07 12:23:28 <danijoo> onCreate
Jun 07 12:23:48 <danijoo> if you do it in getview, you end with one listener per item instead of one listener for all
Jun 07 12:24:12 <DarkChaoz> i see, thanks
Jun 07 12:25:50 <s9iper1> how to vertical center text inside canvas  >
Jun 07 12:25:57 <s9iper1> danijoo,
Jun 07 12:26:12 <s9iper1> any suggestion people ?
Jun 07 12:28:23 <adq> s9iper1, search for ascent descent
Jun 07 12:30:06 <adq> or use getTextSize()/2.0 but this will be not centered properly (lazy approach), finally search on stackoverflow it has been debated zillion of times
Jun 07 12:31:17 <s9iper1> adq,  any suggested link would be help full :)
Jun 07 12:32:11 <adq> no.
Jun 07 12:32:53 <DarkChaoz> lol
Jun 07 12:33:36 <DarkChaoz> look what u done s9iper1 .-.
Jun 07 12:34:21 <s9iper1> haahha
Jun 07 12:50:29 <ktwo> Could someone take a look at this code and could hint me how i could find out where "transact" continues or how to find out which native lib is used here.. (android.os.IBinder stuff)  http://pastebin.com/hK73m4Hx
Jun 07 13:18:11 <happyowl> Hey guys, I'm trying to uniquely identify unregistered users. Initially I was creating a UUID and storing it in SharedPreferences. Anyone got a better idea?
Jun 07 13:29:53 <happyowl> brb
Jun 07 13:36:41 <meithal> hi, why does the dev console suggests me to add translation in russian and greek? my app has nothing to do with these languages
Jun 07 13:37:58 <meithal> also it says that my apk has been translated into russian, greek and thai but I don't remember doing that
Jun 07 13:50:27 <surf2b1> meithal: probably some third party library that added strings to your poject
Jun 07 13:50:39 <surf2b1> * project
Jun 07 13:54:26 <ferdna> anyone developing android apps with qt? i am having problems with NFC... it freezes my app when i scan a tag...
Jun 07 13:57:00 <yoavst> getContentResolver().query(Uri.parse("content://media/external/audio/albums"),arrayOf("_id", "album", "album_art"),"album=${DatabaseUtils.sqlEscapeString(album.name)}", null, null) Can I store album_art path on my storage or it may change?
Jun 07 14:01:37 <meithal> surf2b1, sounds odd but it's the best thing to think of... My app is a simple webview that calls a local html page using only local assets if that helps, litterally 10 lines of codes without any libs
Jun 07 14:01:51 <meithal> code*
Jun 07 14:03:12 <surf2b1> meithal: Weird. Android Studio and Eclipse automatically add appcompat. Are you sure you removed appcompat as a dependency?
Jun 07 14:04:30 <Chetic> how can I edit an app's SharedPreferences values?
Jun 07 14:05:00 <Chetic> without writing code
Jun 07 14:05:13 <meithal> surf2b1,  hm will look into that, thanks
Jun 07 14:06:11 <surf2b1> Chetic: without writing code? what are you trying to do?
Jun 07 14:06:45 <surf2b1> Chetic: If you are rooted you can edit the shared preference file in the app's private data directory
Jun 07 14:07:28 <Chetic> surf2b1: run the open source port of theme hospital. I just want it to re-run the init wizard, and I can see that it checks a SharedPreferences flag for if the wizard has been run or not
Jun 07 14:07:41 <Chetic> surf2b1: how can I find the app's private data directory?
Jun 07 14:08:01 <surf2b1> Chetic: usually /data/data/package.name/shared_preferences
Jun 07 14:09:52 <Chetic> thanks surf2b1 :)
Jun 07 14:30:56 <oranjuice> hey. is there a way to publish an app on the play store for beta testing without it being listed at all?
Jun 07 14:32:31 <surf2b1> oranjuice: It should only show up for people who have opted in and joined your G+ community. Read more here: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/3131213?hl=en
Jun 07 14:34:11 <oranjuice> surf2b1: I saw that, thanks. But when I go through the process, I see that the app has to be uploaded on the play store first.
Jun 07 14:35:56 <surf2b1> oranjuice: It won't show for normal users, only those who signed up for beta testing. There is no way to not have it listed on the Play Store for your beta testers with Google Play. Why would that be an issue?
Jun 07 14:44:29 <yoavst> getContentResolver().query(Uri.parse("content://media/external/audio/albums"),arrayOf("_id", "album", "album_art"),"album=${DatabaseUtils.sqlEscapeString(album.name)}", null, null) Can I store album_art path on my storage or it may change?
Jun 07 14:47:41 <Datasmurfen> What image libary/solution can some of you reccomend to display the facebook profile picture in a circle view inside a activity.
Jun 07 14:49:18 <oranjuice> surf2b1: sorry was afk. What I want is to simply upload my app for just my beta testers. no one else should be able search for my app and find it.
Jun 07 14:49:54 <oranjuice> but the process of setting up beta test requires the app to be already published on the play store.
Jun 07 14:49:56 <surf2b1> oranjuice: They won't find it unless they join the google+ group
Jun 07 14:50:15 <surf2b1> and opt-in
Jun 07 14:50:34 <oranjuice> let's look at the steps: Sign in to your Google Play Developer Console
Jun 07 14:50:41 <oranjuice> Click All applications.
Jun 07 14:50:48 <oranjuice> Select an app
Jun 07 14:51:06 <oranjuice> to select an app, it should be released as a normal app (listed for everyone to see), right?
Jun 07 14:51:11 <oranjuice> Am I missing something?
Jun 07 14:51:12 <surf2b1> Datasmurfen: the support library has a RoundedBitmapDrawable class: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/support/v4/graphics/drawable/RoundedBitmapDrawable.html
Jun 07 14:51:39 <surf2b1> Datasmurfen: You can really use whatever library you want with that. Picasso is always a good choice
Jun 07 14:52:38 <Datasmurfen> surf2b1 : I tried Picasso but there was not many samples on Google on how to exactly implement it
Jun 07 14:52:54 <surf2b1> oranjuice: almost positive if you only upload the APK for beta testers it will not be listed for any normal user. Confirmation anyone else?
Jun 07 14:53:37 <oranjuice> surf2b1: I understand. but I'm asking how to "upload the APK for beta testers" ?
Jun 07 14:53:51 <adq> <surf2b1> oranjuice: It should only show up for people who have opted in and joined your G+ community. Read more here: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/3131213?hl=en
Jun 07 14:53:53 <oranjuice> I'm specifically asking about the third step in the link you posted.
Jun 07 14:54:10 <adq> just follow the steps, Step 1
Jun 07 14:54:30 <surf2b1> oranjuice: Just create the info for the app on your dev console and when you upload the APK it will ask if you want it as a beta app
Jun 07 14:54:32 <oranjuice> in step 1, sub-step 3.
Jun 07 14:54:43 <oranjuice> surf2b1: yeah?
Jun 07 14:54:48 <surf2b1> yeah
Jun 07 14:54:53 <oranjuice> oh that's great :)
Jun 07 14:54:56 <adq> "You don’t need a production APK to publish an alpha/beta app."
Jun 07 14:54:56 <oranjuice> thanks :)
Jun 07 14:55:03 <adq> it's written
Jun 07 14:55:33 <Mavrik> It is written! But not read!
Jun 07 14:55:57 <adq> sick sad world
Jun 07 14:56:16 <oranjuice> I understood that. But the instructions were contradicting to that.
Jun 07 14:56:23 <adq> no
Jun 07 14:57:10 <oranjuice> adq: not to argue, but to simply improve myself, what does sub-step 3  in step 1 mean?
Jun 07 14:57:17 <oranjuice> "Select an app"
Jun 07 14:57:48 <oranjuice> I thought I would have to publish the app as a normal app and then for future revisions, I could add beta testing.
Jun 07 14:58:56 <adq> it means, click on a row corresponding to an app
Jun 07 14:59:10 <adq> if you don't have any app, there is no other possibility than "Add new application"
Jun 07 14:59:24 <darkchaoz> Got annoyed of sniper adq? :P
Jun 07 14:59:36 <adq> no, but I saw your notice darkchaoz
Jun 07 14:59:41 <adq> you should not do that too
Jun 07 14:59:56 <darkchaoz> Do what?
Jun 07 14:59:58 <oranjuice> adq: I'm sorry anyway. I should have tried reading harder.
Jun 07 15:00:06 <adq> -Notice- {from DarkChaoz} lol
Jun 07 15:00:12 <darkchaoz> Ahh aight
Jun 07 15:00:17 <adq> oranjuice, that's the key
Jun 07 15:00:26 <surf2b1> Datasmurfen: something like this: http://pastebin.com/nc4cJXDR (not tested)
Jun 07 15:00:55 <darkchaoz> So what apps.u guys making?
Jun 07 15:01:21 <adq> DSP stuff https://vid.me/GKnT
Jun 07 15:02:08 <oranjuice> is there an official list of banned keywords on the play store?
Jun 07 15:02:10 <darkchaoz> Cant view it, me phone wont load webpage
Jun 07 15:03:09 <adq> I plan to reuse part of this engine for something completly different, to record your voice from an android wear device, test the new channel api to transfert in real-time the stream to the handheld and apply some effects (in real-time too but with the processing power of the handheld, not the wear device) there
Jun 07 15:03:15 <adq> mainly for fun
Jun 07 15:03:38 <surf2b1> adq: cool stuff
Jun 07 15:03:53 <barq> When migrating from ADT to Android Studio and I have a git repository for the ADT project, should I import from git to Android Studio directly or migrate locally?
Jun 07 15:30:24 <barq> I migrated to Android Studio by importing my projects from the local git repository. What is the best way to generate a gradle file now?
Jun 07 15:33:48 <CedricBeust> Copy/paste I guess, gradle doesn't have the concept of archetypes like Maven does
Jun 07 15:50:35 <dex2goat> Hey all. If anybody here knows anything about loading external DEX files at runtime, would appreciate any help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30695317/android-dex-loading-at-runtime
Jun 07 15:52:50 <surf2b1> dex2goat: I haven't used DexFile but I always thought DexClassLoader should be used. http://developer.android.com/reference/dalvik/system/DexClassLoader.html
Jun 07 15:53:14 <dex2goat> @surf2b1: The result is the same in this case
Jun 07 15:53:53 <AdamJB> What kind of code formatter to most of you guys use, if any in Android Studio?
Jun 07 15:54:33 <dex2goat> @AdamJB: Not sure what you mean by code formatter, I use this: https://github.com/square/java-code-styles
Jun 07 15:54:37 <AdamJB> Just recently joined a new company, and some of the code is quite legacy / imports from eclipse... unfortunately, lots of weird mix of formatting, like spaces and tabs mixed in 1 file, some 2 space, 4 space, etc. :|
Jun 07 15:55:16 <dex2goat> @AdamJB: You can also use checkstyle regularly (via CI) to make sure stuff is consistent.
Jun 07 15:55:22 <AdamJB> when leading teams before, I was more in control over the formatting and held up the standards, so never had this kind of issue.  lol was wondering how others tackle it?
Jun 07 15:55:48 <surf2b1> dex2goat: So you already tried something like this: http://pastebin.com/2c11iu4u
Jun 07 15:55:49 <surf2b1> ?
Jun 07 15:56:07 <dex2goat> @surf2b1: yap, some dreaded IOException.
Jun 07 15:56:08 <AdamJB> @dex2goat my concern is mostly what do I do with "legacy" code
Jun 07 15:56:38 <dex2goat> @AdamJB: well, it's obvious, you should assign your freshest junior developer to the task of reformatting everything :)
Jun 07 15:56:41 <CedricBeust> AdamJB: Push to have a standard style guide created for the project/company
Jun 07 15:56:49 <AdamJB> haha
Jun 07 15:56:58 <surf2b1> dex2goat: it has always worked for me. Paste the stacktrace
Jun 07 15:57:22 <CedricBeust> Whenever you read a code review that mentions some formatting topics is a sign that your style guide is incomplete
Jun 07 15:57:26 <AdamJB> just joined the new company, and have to convince the people there, why use a new formatter -.- I was going to go with Square, and not use this crazy eclipse plugin in intellij
Jun 07 15:58:01 <dex2goat> @surf2b1: What did you use for packing the JAR? I will paste the stacktrace shortly.
Jun 07 15:58:10 <CedricBeust> The point of style guides is to make sure that code reviews are 100% about what the code does and 0% about how the code looks
Jun 07 15:58:36 <AdamJB> maybe it's just me, but I was wondering if anyone else gets "OCD" like when formatting is off on a project?
Jun 07 15:58:39 <surf2b1> dex2goat: All I did was create a normal android project and export as an unsigned APK. classes.dex inside.
Jun 07 15:59:12 <CedricBeust> AdamJB: the older I get, the less I care about formatting. I'll point out that something doesn't follow the standard but it doesn't phase me any more, I can read anything
Jun 07 15:59:43 <barq> I have the grade file: http://paste.ofcode.org/krHX9NYw2AgFxF79Zdv9YN However, I still get the error, package org.junit does not exist. How can I fix this?
Jun 07 16:00:03 <CedricBeust> barbs: probably don't have it in your dependencies, and it should be testCompile
Jun 07 16:00:16 <CedricBeust> barbs: read some tutorial (but not the whole gradle documentation, it's too big and not very useful)
Jun 07 16:00:18 <AdamJB> @CedricBeust yah, I guess.  I've been developing stuff for 6 years, and got used to seeing neat clean code.  I guess I'm just an OCD freak :| lol, gotta figure out how to not care about it.
Jun 07 16:00:40 <luist> can i set a default image for my ImageView in the layout?
Jun 07 16:00:44 <barq> CedricBeust: I have in in dependencies, testCompile.
Jun 07 16:00:54 <CedricBeust> AdamJB: Theonly neat, clean code is your own. Everything else will always look alien to you, and you will see different formattings from company to company. Just get used to it (turns out it's surprisingly easy to get used to new styles)
Jun 07 16:01:18 <AdamJB> yup
Jun 07 16:01:50 <AdamJB> right now, there is no style.  1 file has methods that aren't ligned up, mixed with spacing / tabs , some 4 some 2, etc. :|
Jun 07 16:02:05 <CedricBeust> So yes, this absolutely needs to be fixed by a style gude
Jun 07 16:02:25 <AdamJB> ah ok cool, so that's not just an "OCD" thing, if there's no consistency .
Jun 07 16:02:33 <CedricBeust> At a minimum, everybody needs to agree on 1) column length and 2) indent size 3) indent with spaces only, no hard tabs
Jun 07 16:02:36 <CedricBeust> the rest is wild open
Jun 07 16:02:43 <AdamJB> yup
Jun 07 16:02:45 <surf2b1> AdamJB: Are you in India?
Jun 07 16:02:49 <AdamJB> no NYC
Jun 07 16:02:52 <surf2b1> JK... that was bad
Jun 07 16:02:53 <CedricBeust> wide* open
Jun 07 16:02:54 <AdamJB> haha
Jun 07 16:06:05 <dex2goat> @surf2b1: Hmm, no more IOException for DexClassLoader for some reason, sorry for the wrong details!
Jun 07 16:06:31 <dex2goat> just ClassNotFound :)
Jun 07 16:06:32 <surf2b1> np, I guess I should have answered on SO. Missed internet points. haha
Jun 07 16:06:40 <dex2goat> let me make sure everything is correct
Jun 07 16:07:58 <surf2b1> dex2goat: just don't obfuscate. makes reflection MUCH harder
Jun 07 16:08:17 <surf2b1> obviously :)
Jun 07 16:08:57 <dex2goat> there's no obfuscation
Jun 07 16:09:03 <dex2goat> I'm actually trying to do something really weird
Jun 07 16:09:23 <dex2goat> I will reveal more details if I manage to get it to work :)
Jun 07 16:17:35 <barq> I get dependencies cannot be applied to groovy.lang.closure in my build.gradle file from ActionBarSherlock project. This is my gradle file http://paste.ofcode.org/zNLa7qhJLh4RY7zRGJw6di Where am I going wrong? I imported this from Eclipse.
Jun 07 16:31:43 <AdamJB> @CedricBeust Thanks for the input! :)
Jun 07 16:36:58 <barq> I read that you need to have a top level build.gradle file as well if you have multiple projects in the workspace. How can I add a top level build.gradle though, if they have no containing folder in Android Studio?
Jun 07 16:38:03 <g00s> ah, finally somebody said it https://medium.com/tech-in-asia/material-design-why-the-floating-action-button-is-bad-ux-design-acd5b32c5ef
Jun 07 16:38:27 <Muchoz> Does someone know some good looking apps that have something to do with online purchases, have shopping carts, shops, nearby lists, food ordering, opening hours...?
Jun 07 16:38:35 <Muchoz> I'm looking for some inspiration.
Jun 07 16:49:25 <da3m0n22> hi all, any thoughts on this please? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30645051/proguard-configuration-for-android-support-v4-22-2-0
Jun 07 16:51:35 <mmarklar> Is there an easy way to see what version of google play services a particular function/class requires from the documentation? Something like the ‘API level’ from the developer.android.com site?
Jun 07 16:53:45 <DarkChaoz> i hate the fact how android studio seemingly not responds after you close the emulator
Jun 07 16:53:52 <DarkChaoz> it just freezes there..
Jun 07 16:54:35 <Muchoz> DarkChaoz, I love how AS constantly gives me a popup of ADB supposedly to have 'crashed' when I just closed it via the command line.
Jun 07 16:55:21 <DarkChaoz> brb need to log off and log back in -_-
Jun 07 16:55:33 <DarkChaoz> AS only seems to work after that :S
Jun 07 17:02:36 <g00s> sweet, a nice bottomsheet library from Flipboard
Jun 07 17:13:36 <DarkChaoz> anyone has experience with twitter api?
Jun 07 17:14:02 <DarkChaoz> which json key is for twitter url?
Jun 07 17:16:33 <PtRn> i am quering mediastore for bucket names on the device from which i am getting duplicate names for e.g. "Bluetooth" and "bluetooth". Any idea how can i remove this duplication?
Jun 07 17:40:58 <luist> can i start a new activty (that opens the camera) when pressing a button? http://paste.ofcode.org/3aNSexuhNZk24XXuQ24QSQd
Jun 07 17:41:31 <Mavrik> Where did you see this way of opening new activity?
Jun 07 17:41:43 <luist> Mavrik: didnt :P
Jun 07 17:41:57 <luist> Mavrik: how should i do it?
Jun 07 17:42:11 <Mavrik> The way it's written in the documentation.
Jun 07 17:42:34 <luist> Mavrik: this is the camera activity: http://paste.ofcode.org/ekE3GUittKzqfBnUtVuVvL
Jun 07 17:44:19 <luist> Mavrik: well i couldnt do it with an Intent as docs say
Jun 07 17:53:15 <luist> where should i save a single photo i take with the camera that will be used only by my app?
Jun 07 17:56:26 <Mavrik> do you need it permanenly?
Jun 07 17:56:31 <Mavrik> or just for temporary processing?
Jun 07 17:59:37 <luist> Mavrik: permanently
Jun 07 17:59:57 <Mavrik> getFilesDir() or getExternalFilesDir()
Jun 07 18:00:38 <luist> Mavrik: i also need to use it in another activity… should i save it with the 2nd activity than open with the 1st, or is there a better way to send it back?
Jun 07 18:08:07 <wakelock> makes no difference
Jun 07 18:11:26 <t0astt> When is it appropriate to use a nine-patch image vs making your own drawable?
Jun 07 18:22:04 <sigmabeta> anybody good at JNI / NDK?
Jun 07 18:22:17 <sigmabeta> trying to call a static java method from my C code
Jun 07 18:22:38 <Mavrik> and?
Jun 07 18:23:45 <sigmabeta> is it enough to do keep the JNIEnv * i get from a Java-to-C call as a global variable in my C code, and then use that to call java methods later?
Jun 07 18:23:49 <sigmabeta> or do I have to perform additional setup
Jun 07 18:24:13 <sigmabeta> broadly, i am attempting to do env->FindClass, then env->GetStaticMethodId
Jun 07 18:24:36 <sigmabeta> but i am getting a segfault when I attempt GetStaticMethodId, and i'm wondering if I've supplied it bum arguments or if I need to do more setup first
Jun 07 18:25:14 <Mavrik> are you messing around with threads?
Jun 07 18:25:23 <Mavrik> You generally shouldn't cache JNIEnv, just JavaVM
Jun 07 18:25:29 <Mavrik> see: https://developer.android.com/training/articles/perf-jni.html#JavaVM_and_JNIEnv
Jun 07 18:25:49 <sigmabeta> hm, come to think of it, I do believe the thread that is crashing is a different one than what cached the JNIEnv
Jun 07 18:26:00 <Mavrik> yeah, that's a huge nono
Jun 07 18:26:11 <sigmabeta> good to know
Jun 07 18:26:14 <sigmabeta> ...know
Jun 07 18:26:20 <Mavrik> cache JavaVM, Attach current thread (which gives you JNIEnv) and then do invocation
Jun 07 18:26:25 <Mavrik> detach thread afterwards
Jun 07 18:26:57 <sigmabeta> should I cache the MethodID for methods I plan to reuse?
Jun 07 18:27:57 <sigmabeta> also, thanks for that page, i hadn't seen it before. i'll make sure to consume it thoroughly
Jun 07 18:28:14 <Mavrik> You can cache it, since lookup isn't all that fast
Jun 07 18:28:27 <Mavrik> then again, you really shouldn't be doing a lot of JNI calls because they're really slow
Jun 07 18:30:00 <sigmabeta> yeah, i knew that much. i'm avoiding it as much as possible
Jun 07 18:31:46 <pfn> t0astt, that answer seems obvious, always use a 9 patch until it doesn't meet your requirements
Jun 07 18:32:35 <paulo_> hello
Jun 07 18:32:39 <DarkChaoz> reddit has a poor rss feed
Jun 07 18:32:42 <DarkChaoz> *smh*
Jun 07 18:32:49 <paulo_> I want to talk about my app's stats, but I won't.
Jun 07 18:33:00 <DarkChaoz> cool
Jun 07 18:33:05 <DarkChaoz> so why come here then?
Jun 07 18:33:07 <pfn> what is your app paulo_
Jun 07 18:33:20 <paulo_> haha, people are calling me out for bringing up the topic everyday
Jun 07 18:33:37 <DarkChaoz> i seen you talk about reviews last time :P
Jun 07 18:33:58 <g00s> i'd use a drawable unless it med my needs; once you go 9 patch you have to think about scaling across densities and scap
Jun 07 18:34:03 <g00s> *met
Jun 07 18:34:19 <g00s> do as much as you can with vector
Jun 07 18:34:20 <pfn> you talk about it, but nothing we care about since we don't know what it is
Jun 07 18:34:35 <pfn> g00s, uh
Jun 07 18:34:52 <pfn> 9 patch scaling is the same as drawable scaling
Jun 07 18:34:58 <pfn> that's a pretty weak argument
Jun 07 18:35:27 <pfn> and by making a drawable, I assume a custom drawable class
Jun 07 18:35:39 <pfn> rather than just a raster or shape
Jun 07 18:35:57 <g00s> and if you have dark and light themes and now you probably have to author 2 9-patches
Jun 07 18:36:07 <g00s> and .. that 9 patch tool, ugh
Jun 07 18:36:17 <pfn> g00s, no difference from what you proposed earlier either
Jun 07 18:40:30 <luist> what requestCode should i use when calling startActivityForResult? i just need to run something when the intent is finished
Jun 07 18:41:03 <g00s> i think pretty much anything but 0
Jun 07 18:41:18 <g00s> just puckin something > 0
Jun 07 18:42:18 <g00s> oh, they say If >= 0, this code will be returned in onActivityResult() when the activity exits.
Jun 07 18:42:33 <g00s> yeah i made the mistake once of using -1 or something :D
Jun 07 18:43:19 <luist> g00s, oh but there are some predefined codes right
Jun 07 18:43:49 <g00s> not sure
Jun 07 18:46:20 <g00s> pfn you were using SAF, but thats only 4.4 s what did you do < 4.4 ?
Jun 07 18:47:06 <DarkChaoz> wow you have to request google to use youtube logo -__-
Jun 07 18:47:28 <paulo_> DarkChaoz: what are you using it for?
Jun 07 18:48:13 <DarkChaoz> just as an icon for my gridmenu
Jun 07 18:48:30 <gdrc> g00s, stop coding go to the beach
Jun 07 18:48:35 <DarkChaoz> they listed guidelines for which circumstances you can use t
Jun 07 18:48:45 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  Gotta love those magic numbers.
Jun 07 18:48:51 <DarkChaoz> but for app it doesnt mention anything.
Jun 07 18:48:53 <g00s> TacticalJoke :D
Jun 07 18:49:03 <TacticalJoke> "Try 67 -- there's a surprise in store!"
Jun 07 18:49:19 <TacticalJoke> Once every 15 times, your app will crash with a fun error message.
Jun 07 18:52:41 <g00s> stupid question, aren't @UiThread and @MainThread the same thing ?
Jun 07 18:53:24 <g00s> "it is also possible for applications to create other threads on which they run different windows." TIL
Jun 07 18:54:40 <Ashiren> huh
Jun 07 18:54:51 <Ashiren> example plx
Jun 07 18:55:11 <g00s> Ashiren was just reading docs at http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/support-annotations
Jun 07 18:55:30 <g00s> section "@UiThread or @MainThread?"
Jun 07 18:56:49 <Mavrik> huh, @VisibleForTesting
Jun 07 18:56:49 <Ashiren> so this is android M stuff?
Jun 07 18:57:02 <Mavrik> TDD fanboys are going to throw a fit
Jun 07 18:57:40 <CedricBeust> @VisibleForTesting is great
Jun 07 18:57:58 <g00s> Ashiren its in support annotations 22, i think you need AS 1.3 for the thread notifications to matter though
Jun 07 18:58:10 <g00s> s/notifications/annotations
Jun 07 18:58:23 <Mavrik> But yeah, no more messing around with protected, package private or whatnot for methods we don't want to expose to public
Jun 07 18:58:26 <Mavrik> (and still test them)
Jun 07 18:58:42 <TacticalJoke> Wouldn't they still be package-private?
Jun 07 18:59:01 <TacticalJoke> @VisibleForTesting is just a documentation thing, I think.
Jun 07 18:59:09 <CedricBeust> Yes it is
Jun 07 18:59:16 <CedricBeust> We were already using it at Google when I was there
Jun 07 18:59:59 <Mavrik> Hmm, reading the (lacking) doc it seems that it actually changed the modifier?
Jun 07 19:00:01 <Mavrik> *changes
Jun 07 19:00:07 <Mavrik> or am I misreading?
Jun 07 19:00:22 <luist> any ideas why my onActivityResult is not being called? i end the called activity with finish();     http://pastie.org/10228319
Jun 07 19:00:34 <CedricBeust> Mavrik: I doubt that, where are you reading it?
Jun 07 19:00:48 <TacticalJoke> It lets you document that something is package-private rather than private, in practice.
Jun 07 19:00:50 <Mavrik> Hmm, it seems I ended up in Guava @VisibleForTesting doc
Jun 07 19:00:57 <TacticalJoke> I mean "It lets you document why it's package-private rather than private".
Jun 07 19:00:59 <barq> luist: Are you setting result to CAMERA…?
Jun 07 19:01:19 <barq> Oh requestCode, misread
Jun 07 19:01:38 <Mavrik> Ah, yes, it's just a doc thing.
Jun 07 19:01:41 <Mavrik> Bah
Jun 07 19:02:14 <DarkChaoz> which way is more efficient for clicking a specific item position
Jun 07 19:02:20 <DarkChaoz> switch or if statement?
Jun 07 19:02:30 <DarkChaoz> i.e if(position == 0)
Jun 07 19:02:38 <CedricBeust> either
Jun 07 19:02:47 <DarkChaoz> kk
Jun 07 19:03:27 * Mavrik is disappointed.
Jun 07 19:04:04 <TacticalJoke> DarkChaoz:  The most important primary consideration is code maintainability.  Keep things easy to read and change.  :D
Jun 07 19:04:15 <TacticalJoke> Switch statements are often good for a bunch of values.
Jun 07 19:04:56 <CedricBeust> Although if it's for click callbacks, ButterKnife @OnClick is cleaner than a switch on id's
Jun 07 19:05:00 <luist> oooh it worked finally
Jun 07 19:05:07 <Ashiren> huh onActivityResult in OnClickListener
Jun 07 19:06:40 * g00s lusts over kotlin 'when'
Jun 07 19:06:54 <DarkChaoz> i see thanks :D
Jun 07 19:07:29 <DarkChaoz> reddit so dodgy wanted to add rss feed of a subreddit
Jun 07 19:07:38 <DarkChaoz> always server communication failure
Jun 07 19:07:40 <DarkChaoz> oh well
Jun 07 19:08:14 <CedricBeust> DarkChaoz: I use this  https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/new-comments/jldpfbgmbdnnjdgohphppjnpadogdime?hl=en
Jun 07 19:08:15 <Nightwalkerkg> Hi, i would like to make some edits to the AOSP Settings app, do i have to download and import the entire source code, or just the settings ?
Jun 07 19:08:18 <TacticalJoke> I love that Kotlin's `when` can be used for arbitrary expressions:  when { foo -> handleFoo(); bar -> handleBar() }
Jun 07 19:08:35 <TacticalJoke> Instead of the whole `if..else if` shebang.
Jun 07 19:08:55 <pfn> g00s, rewrite your app in kotlin
Jun 07 19:10:02 <g00s> NightwalkerkgJun 07 19:10:46 <pfn> g00s, just standard picker intent
Jun 07 19:11:21 <Nightwalkerkg> g00s, it's platform_packages_apps_settings if i recall correctly.
Jun 07 19:11:44 <pfn> g00s, https://github.com/pfn/keepshare/blob/master/src/main/scala/com/hanhuy/android/keepshare/SetupActivity.scala#L153
Jun 07 19:12:23 <g00s> pfn ok thanks
Jun 07 19:12:49 <compac> Does the drive api for android allow OCR on image uploads?
Jun 07 19:13:15 <compac> the REST api allows it but I can't find anything for it on the android api
Jun 07 19:14:45 <Nightwalkerkg> g00s, i would like to use this viewPager : https://github.com/nightwalkerkg/MaterialViewPager in my custom options, can you just verify this, i add the materialViewPager to external edit the android.mk and then add the import for it into settings ?
Jun 07 19:15:39 <g00s> Nightwalkerkg i dont have any experience modifying the built-in apps, or building from android.mk
Jun 07 19:15:51 <Nightwalkerkg> Oh, ok. Thanks anyway.
Jun 07 19:15:52 <Nightwalkerkg> :D
Jun 07 19:16:18 <pfn> make package name
Jun 07 19:16:20 <pfn> done
Jun 07 19:16:23 <pfn> aosp is easy
Jun 07 19:17:40 <g00s> CedricBeust any idea on how you would merge N observables, where N changes over time ?
Jun 07 19:17:55 <g00s> is this one of those Observable of Observable scenarios perhaps
Jun 07 19:19:47 <g00s> hm this looks like it <T> Observable<T> merge(Observable<? extends Observable<? extends T>> source)
Jun 07 19:19:49 <g00s> O.O
Jun 07 19:21:24 <g00s> as long as #1 doesn't have to complete before #2
Jun 07 19:27:06 <luist> how can i update my imageview after changing its content?: imageView.setImageURI(Uri.fromFile(photo));
Jun 07 19:31:33 <TacticalJoke> luist:  What do you mean?  Doesn't ImageView.setImageURI update the ImageView?
Jun 07 19:31:46 <luist> TacticalJoke: hmm doesn’t seem so
Jun 07 19:31:56 <TacticalJoke> Also, that method seems like a bad idea:  "This does Bitmap reading and decoding on the UI thread, which can cause a latency hiccup."
Jun 07 19:32:48 <CedricBeust> s/can/will
Jun 07 19:37:42 <hTmlDP> hello
Jun 07 19:37:55 <hTmlDP> i have a problem with android.support.design in Eclipse Indigo.
Jun 07 19:41:13 <g00s> hTmlDP probably best to use android studio. eclipse is basically unsupported
Jun 07 19:41:20 <hTmlDP> error: Error: No resource found that matches the given name: attr 'backgroundTint'.    styles.xml    /design/res/values    line 20    Android AAPT Problem
Jun 07 19:41:36 <hTmlDP> g00s: im sorry, but Android Studio laggs on my eeepc :|
Jun 07 19:42:04 <p_l> ... eeepc isn't a good choice there
Jun 07 19:42:09 <TacticalJoke> "in Eclipse Indigo".  Dat IDE doe.
Jun 07 19:42:12 <hTmlDP> p_l: i know, tell my parents.
Jun 07 19:42:16 <hTmlDP> =]
Jun 07 19:42:42 <TacticalJoke> hTmlDP:  Have you tried AS recently?
Jun 07 19:42:46 <TacticalJoke> It used to be way slower before 1.0.
Jun 07 19:43:16 <hTmlDP> TacticalJoke: i tried it at about 10th of April 2015
Jun 07 19:43:24 <TacticalJoke> At what time?
Jun 07 19:43:31 <hTmlDP> not sure.
Jun 07 19:43:49 <g00s> hTmlDP how much memory does the eeepc have ?
Jun 07 19:43:57 <hTmlDP> g00s: 2GB
Jun 07 19:44:07 <g00s> yeah, AS is hopeless there
Jun 07 19:44:13 <hTmlDP> :|
Jun 07 19:44:50 <hTmlDP> what about the error?
Jun 07 19:45:58 <adq> the joy of big free repos: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dspfilterscpp/ This project has been moved to here: https://code.google.com/p/dspfilterscpp/ This project has moved to Github! The new home is: https://github.com/vinniefalco/DSPFilters
Jun 07 19:46:28 <g00s> the wandering dsp filters
Jun 07 19:46:36 <adq> lol yeah, wandering a lot too
Jun 07 19:51:04 <shmooz> WTF?  did sourceforge turn into Download.com ?
Jun 07 19:52:05 <g00s> shmooz eventually, everything turns into download.com
Jun 07 19:52:05 <TacticalJoke> Imagine if GitHub did that.  lol
Jun 07 19:52:22 <TacticalJoke> (However that GitHub version would look.)
Jun 07 19:52:27 <shmooz> well I never!
Jun 07 19:52:44 <g00s> its like the heat death of all repository websites :)
Jun 07 19:52:50 <TacticalJoke> lol
Jun 07 19:53:24 <adq> i heard about gittorrent rJun 07 19:55:32 <adq> (also heard crazy conspi theories on metadata collected by github)
Jun 07 19:55:41 <shmooz> sourceforge was a pioneer
Jun 07 19:55:42 <adq> (though... not so crazy)
Jun 07 19:56:01 <TacticalJoke> It was kinda ingeniously ugly.  How could someone even come up with that?
Jun 07 19:56:05 <TacticalJoke> Takes real talent.
Jun 07 19:56:21 <adq> i was pretty satisfied from sourgeforge in the early 2000s
Jun 07 19:56:31 <adq> sourceforge*
Jun 07 19:57:12 <groxx> TacticalJoke: but... but they did a big redesign and everything!  it must be a beautiful butterfly now, no?
Jun 07 19:57:13 <ferdna> Qt android and nfc? anyone?
Jun 07 19:58:07 <AdamJB> @hTmlDP backgroundTint is a new L feature.  Do you have the latest Android SDKs installed?
Jun 07 20:00:36 <hTmlDP> AdamJB: i used 5.0.1 (API 21)
Jun 07 20:00:46 <hTmlDP> AdamJB: updating to API 22 (5.1)
Jun 07 20:01:38 <AdamJB> Might be that the Eclipse plugin doesn't support API 21 ?
Jun 07 20:03:06 <hTmlDP> not sure
Jun 07 20:03:54 <TacticalJoke> Can you get a new computer?
Jun 07 20:04:02 <TacticalJoke> I would seriously consider it if feasible.
Jun 07 20:05:48 <AdamJB> I have 5 year old MSI netbook that's better than that EEPC with 2 gigs of ram and it cost me $300 a while back. :|
Jun 07 20:07:22 <hTmlDP> AdamJB: i was 11 when my father bought it for me =p
Jun 07 20:07:33 <hTmlDP> AdamJB: that's not really my fault
Jun 07 20:08:00 <AdamJB> that's understandable, cool.
Jun 07 20:08:45 <bilb_ono> in this code: https://bpaste.net/show/ee250b1cd9b4, is that transformation matrix just moving the bitmap from where it was previously each time?
Jun 07 20:08:56 <bilb_ono> or is it moving it from its original position way back when
Jun 07 20:09:04 <bilb_ono> it was first drawn
Jun 07 20:09:24 <bilb_ono> and thus this transform matrix keeps the total transformations ever put onto this bitmap
Jun 07 20:09:37 <bilb_ono> does that make sense?
Jun 07 20:11:26 <AdamJB> @hTmlDP I think the quickest way to remedy the issue is not use backgroundTint.  If you plan on targeting older devices, I don't think it'll work, since it's a 21+ feature.  You'd need to use the compat libs and do it in code to support older API levels.
Jun 07 20:11:47 <bilb_ono> the reset() call makes me think that it is reseting to the identity matrix each time, and thus it is transforming the original placement of the bitmap
Jun 07 20:11:55 <hTmlDP> AdamJB: well the problem is it's in the design lib.
Jun 07 20:12:00 <bilb_ono> rather than just incrementally changing it in each onDraw
Jun 07 20:12:04 <hTmlDP> so i need it.
Jun 07 20:12:11 <hTmlDP> or can remove it somehow
Jun 07 20:12:20 <AdamJB> Ah, the new design lib?
Jun 07 20:12:27 <hTmlDP> the only thing i need from android.support.design is TabLayout
Jun 07 20:12:28 <hTmlDP> yes
Jun 07 20:13:18 <hTmlDP> im updating my eclipse now
Jun 07 20:13:25 <hTmlDP> not sure if it'll affect Android
Jun 07 20:13:30 <AdamJB> I see the problem, you're using Eclipse.  Jar files don't contain resource files.
Jun 07 20:13:43 <hTmlDP> What do you mean>
Jun 07 20:13:44 <AdamJB> You'd have to include the project with the resources and link it up manually.
Jun 07 20:14:01 <hTmlDP> i know but the error is in the design lib
Jun 07 20:14:12 <hTmlDP> i didnt try to import it yet
Jun 07 20:14:24 <AdamJB> So in the same workspace, you'll have to import the "design" project.  But I don't think they support eclipse anymore.  Android Studio does it differently, which links things nicely.
Jun 07 20:14:47 <hTmlDP> yep ik :|
Jun 07 20:14:59 <hTmlDP> but some ppl do use the design project in eclipse
Jun 07 20:15:01 <hTmlDP> i did import it
Jun 07 20:15:35 <AdamJB> I forgot how complicated it used to be to do these kinds of things. :|
Jun 07 20:16:19 <TacticalJoke> I hated seeing the project at the side in Eclipse.
Jun 07 20:16:31 <TacticalJoke> It felt so icky.
Jun 07 20:26:58 <bjorn`> Question. In android 5.1 (Possibly since 5.0) I'm no longer able to access /dev from my custom app or from non-root ADB. Can I change this? My app requires direct access to a serial device that spans in /dev. Is there a special permission I can grant it to let it do this?
Jun 07 20:29:36 <bilb_ono> if I have the values of a transformation matrix, it should be easy to find the location, and size of the bitmap it just transformed right? I have the 9 values, where can I find the equations to extract the position and size of the bitmap based on those?
Jun 07 20:33:32 <g00s> "Ideally everything is stateless. But there has to be a turtle at the bottom that holds the state."
Jun 07 20:33:38 <g00s> ha :)
Jun 07 20:35:11 <g00s> TacticalJoke did you see this weeks androidweekly ?
Jun 07 20:42:41 <TacticalJoke> Oh, nah.  I never follow any of those things.
Jun 07 20:44:06 <g00s> there was a good UX discussion about the FAB
Jun 07 20:44:29 <g00s> and this looks well done too https://github.com/Flipboard/bottomsheet
Jun 07 20:58:40 <groxx> bilb_ono: matrix.mapRect(the_bitmap, the_view) will give you the bitmap's position in view coordinates
Jun 07 21:01:53 <pfn> bottomsheet looks kind of nice, implemented that sort of thing so many times
Jun 07 21:07:31 <hTmlDP> does anyone here use android.support.design with Eclipse?
Jun 07 21:08:38 <pfn> no
Jun 07 21:08:50 <Napalm> no
Jun 07 21:09:03 <pfn> I started using the design lib, then found the fab sucks
Jun 07 21:09:08 <pfn> then stopped using it
Jun 07 21:09:09 <pfn> heh
Jun 07 21:09:41 <AdamJB> I don't think anyone here uses eclipse anymore ;)
Jun 07 21:10:39 <pfn> also not an eclipse user
Jun 07 21:10:55 <pfn> switched to intellij once it had decent android support
Jun 07 21:11:55 <Odaym> hey Napalm
Jun 07 21:11:59 <Odaym> d'ya get my thanks?
Jun 07 21:12:11 <bilb_ono> groxx, like this? https://bpaste.net/show/c291a86bc03f
Jun 07 21:12:20 <bilb_ono> I feel like I might be passing in the wrong bitmap?
Jun 07 21:13:02 <Napalm> Odaym: yea, so you got it all working/
Jun 07 21:13:03 <Napalm> ?
Jun 07 21:13:26 <Odaym> yea it was just the missing part
Jun 07 21:13:43 <Odaym> but never thought alignTop of and alignBottom of were so powerful, usually I relied on other attrs
Jun 07 21:13:56 <groxx> bilb_ono: it accepts RectF-s.  pass in the bounds, not the objects :)
Jun 07 21:13:59 <Odaym> it was the fact that none of those views had any sizes at compile time
Jun 07 21:14:02 <Odaym> that's what threw me off
Jun 07 21:14:41 <bilb_ono> grobe0ba, wait it accepts the bounds? I am trying to find the bounds based on the transformation matrix
Jun 07 21:15:07 <Odaym> I even used them to get the activity running in exactly the same behavior even when landscape was on, the image was in the middle and the canvas would be just around it
Jun 07 21:16:10 <groxx> bilb_ono: ah, sorry.  second param isn't the view, it's just an out param.  but that's what matrix.mapRect does - it takes a rect, transforms it through the matrix, and spits out the result (either into the same rect, or into the out rect)
Jun 07 21:16:51 <groxx> if you need to handle rotations / skew, you'll need to mapPoints instead
Jun 07 21:17:56 <Odaym> really nice drawing app you showed, the library for drawing I ended up using was a real underdog and so well made, so so well made, better than that over fluffed mediocrity called DrawbleView
Jun 07 21:18:14 <Odaym> cause I had given up on it and tried to write my own at some point, and then I appreciated that other  guy who wrote CanvasView
Jun 07 21:31:30 <bilb_ono> groxx, sounds like its kinda complicated. Are map points an android specific thing or should I be able to find general info about them online?
Jun 07 21:31:38 <bilb_ono> are they something that can be computed from any matrix
Jun 07 21:31:51 <groxx> bilb_ono: look at the matrix documentation
Jun 07 21:32:19 <bilb_ono> all it says is Apply this matrix to the array of 2D points, and write the transformed points back into the array
Jun 07 21:32:26 <bilb_ono> i don't really know how that helps me
Jun 07 21:32:42 <bilb_ono> so mapPoints is a matrix
Jun 07 21:32:59 <bilb_ono> idk what array its writing the transformed bitmap points back into
Jun 07 21:35:34 <Odaym> trying to do what?
Jun 07 21:36:44 <bilb_ono> Odaym, I have a transformation matrix and all its values. It applies these to a bitmap. I want to use the values in the transformation matrix to calculate the bounds, x and y max and min that the transformed bitmap must occupy
Jun 07 21:37:00 <bilb_ono> I already know that the scale can be found along the diagonal of the matrix
Jun 07 21:37:03 <Odaym> to do what in the end
Jun 07 21:37:34 <bilb_ono> this canvas covers the entire screen. I only want a touch event to fire if it occurs inside of the bitmap (which is a small part of the canvas)
Jun 07 21:37:41 <Odaym> haha
Jun 07 21:37:42 <Odaym> dude
Jun 07 21:37:46 <bilb_ono> so I need to calculate the bitmap bounds
Jun 07 21:37:51 <Odaym> this is what I struggled with for 5 days
Jun 07 21:37:56 <Odaym> I finished it 2 days ago
Jun 07 21:37:58 <bilb_ono> Odayyymmm
Jun 07 21:38:00 <Odaym> good luck
Jun 07 21:38:00 <bilb_ono> lol
Jun 07 21:38:08 <bilb_ono> well cripes
Jun 07 21:38:14 <bilb_ono> any good links or recommendations?
Jun 07 21:38:16 <Odaym> its so easy but think of it easier
Jun 07 21:38:20 <Odaym> zero links
Jun 07 21:38:35 <Odaym> you want to draw on the image and then save them as 1, yea?
Jun 07 21:38:45 <groxx> RectF out = new RectF(); the_matrix.mapRect(new RectF(0, 0, bitmap.getWidth(), bitmap.getHeight(), out);.
Jun 07 21:39:04 <Odaym> newp, overkill
Jun 07 21:39:10 <Odaym> getRect!
Jun 07 21:39:11 <Odaym> :P
Jun 07 21:40:17 <bilb_ono> whats newp?
Jun 07 21:40:30 <Odaym> think of it this way, if you can guarantee that this overlay view that you will use to grab the touch event from can sit ontop of the image and not go outside of those bounds, will you have solved the problem?
Jun 07 21:40:31 <bilb_ono> yeah I want to draw on the image and save it as 1
Jun 07 21:40:36 <Odaym> yes, I know
Jun 07 21:40:52 <Odaym> if the canvas can just sit on the exact image, your problem would be solved, no?
Jun 07 21:41:03 <Odaym> but its taking up the whole view right now
Jun 07 21:42:59 <bilb_ono> Odaym, yeah, but I made it a canvas because it moves around on finger touch and grab and rotate. Moving a bitmap around inside of a big canvas is pretty well documented
Jun 07 21:43:29 <bilb_ono> are you suggesting I instead move the canvas around inside of the imageView?
Jun 07 21:43:48 <Odaym> that part is out of my knowledge, but we're talking here about loading the activity with the canvas ontop of the image on the exact bounds so that any drawing that is done on the canvas can stop at the edges of the image and not go into the black/white space
Jun 07 21:44:49 <ademarfsj> hi, i need a free private svn repository, any ideas?
Jun 07 21:45:00 <Odaym> bitbucket
Jun 07 21:45:21 <ademarfsj> bitbuck has svn?
Jun 07 21:45:38 <Odaym> oh I thought you meant Git
Jun 07 21:45:47 <Odaym> see I cant read
Jun 07 21:45:48 <Odaym> sorry
Jun 07 21:46:13 <Odaym> ...
Jun 07 21:46:19 <ademarfsj> np, thanks
Jun 07 21:46:25 <Odaym> haha
Jun 07 21:46:37 <Odaym> man yes it has SVN, of course i read what you asked
Jun 07 21:46:44 <Odaym> i was mocking
Jun 07 21:47:23 <Odaym> I think bitbucket is the only option, otherwise you have to host it yourself
Jun 07 21:48:43 <g00s> funny that github supports svn repos
Jun 07 21:48:55 <Odaym> not free
Jun 07 21:49:10 <Odaym> not free private, I mean, as you know
Jun 07 21:49:17 <Odaym> that's so stupid of them, at least just give 2
Jun 07 21:49:43 <expr> perks of being a student
Jun 07 21:49:49 <expr> still only limited to 5 private repos, though
Jun 07 21:50:08 <Odaym> meh, what's a student going to do with a repo :P
Jun 07 21:50:21 <Odaym> we're talking repo with 3 or more collaborators, and still free
Jun 07 21:50:32 <ademarfsj> hmm
Jun 07 21:50:40 <ademarfsj> thanks for the tips, guys
Jun 07 21:50:47 * expr can add collaborators to his private GH repos
Jun 07 21:51:00 <expr> bitbucket would be the better option if more open source projects actually adopted it
Jun 07 21:51:09 <Odaym> sorry I meant corporate
Jun 07 21:51:28 <Odaym> that's what I meant with 3 or more, that's the usual corporate factor, that you have many collaborators
Jun 07 21:51:50 <ademarfsj> only 2 people in this particular project at the time
Jun 07 21:52:17 <Odaym> wish I knew how to git
Jun 07 21:53:03 <expr> in other news, think I'm going to have to spin up a windows/linux VM for android dev, the emulator segfaults on OS X for some reason... unless I run it with sudo
Jun 07 21:53:26 <Odaym> native mac?
Jun 07 21:53:33 <expr> yup
Jun 07 21:53:37 <Odaym> it really shouldnt
Jun 07 21:53:40 <g00s> expr try -noaudio
Jun 07 21:53:58 <g00s> also yeah, make sure haxm is correctly installed
Jun 07 21:54:01 <Odaym> or get Genymotion
Jun 07 21:54:05 <expr> can I modify the command flags within android studio?
Jun 07 21:54:13 <Odaym> you can get a lot out of it if student, too
Jun 07 21:54:39 <g00s> expr yeah
Jun 07 21:55:53 <g00s> expr Run -> Edit Configurations -> emu tab
Jun 07 21:57:21 <expr> ah, will try it out in a minute. downloading some components
Jun 07 21:58:00 <bilb_ono> groxx, concerning your example, I read in the docs that a rectF is contructed with 4 arguemnts, float top, bottom, left and right. but you have 5 arguments
Jun 07 21:58:20 <bilb_ono> out is the 5th.
Jun 07 21:58:33 <bilb_ono> am I looking at the wrong rectF contruction documentation?
Jun 07 22:03:41 <groxx> or a misspelling :)  I just missed a parenthesis.
Jun 07 22:04:15 <expr> android studio just doesn't like me :(
Jun 07 22:04:54 <expr> keep getting this: "Error:(23, 13) Failed to resolve: com.android.support:support-v4:23.+", yet when I hit "Install Repository and sync project" it installs something, then the same message comes back up
Jun 07 22:05:31 <Odaym>     compile 'com.android.support:support-v4:22.2.0'
Jun 07 22:05:39 <Odaym> try adding that to the app's build.gradle
Jun 07 22:05:41 <Odaym> that's what I do
Jun 07 22:06:18 <bilb_ono> groxx, like this then? transform.mapRect(new RectF(0, 0, bitmap.getWidth(), bitmap.getHeight()),out)
Jun 07 22:06:42 <expr> seemed to have worked, now running into "Error:Execution failed for task ':app:compileDebugAidl'.> aidl is missing"
Jun 07 22:06:59 <Odaym> why..
Jun 07 22:07:05 <Odaym> never seen anything like that
Jun 07 22:07:12 <Odaym> just start clean
Jun 07 22:07:14 <expr> I'm trying to build for the Android M preview, if that changes anything
Jun 07 22:07:17 <expr> have done, twice now
Jun 07 22:07:19 <Odaym> ohh
Jun 07 22:07:44 <expr> I think I'll just start over and focus on lolipop, Android M doesn't really have anything I *need*
Jun 07 22:08:59 <Odaym> if you wanna see M just make it work :P
Jun 07 22:09:05 <Odaym> otherwise stop and do what you need to do
Jun 07 22:09:07 <Odaym> brah
Jun 07 22:09:56 <expr> I'll just try clean install of android studio on the stable channel, if that doesn't work then I know something deeper is wrong :P
Jun 07 22:10:40 <bilb_ono> groxx,  that seems to return aretrue for every touch event until I scale it once. Then arefalse for every event after.
Jun 07 22:10:50 <bilb_ono> Im probably using it wrong though
Jun 07 22:10:57 <bilb_ono> i need to read more about mapRect
Jun 07 22:11:00 <Skizzy> Hey guys!
Jun 07 22:11:00 <Odaym> yea I would definitely go for the stable channel if Im expecting anything to remain sane :P
Jun 07 22:11:23 <Odaym> because you are calling it before the dimensions kick in, bilb_ono
Jun 07 22:11:32 <Odaym> i think
Jun 07 22:11:44 <Odaym> getWidth and getHeight should be zero for both if you log them
Jun 07 22:14:26 <Skizzy> So what are you guys up too?
Jun 07 22:14:50 <bilb_ono> coding!
Jun 07 22:15:03 <Skizzy> Sick, what are you working on?
Jun 07 22:15:19 <Vercinger> Can anyone help me understand why this method would return 'NaN'? http://pastebin.com/yc9NxZMA
Jun 07 22:15:21 <dex2goat> expr: I had the same thing, make sure you're using the 1.3-beta-rc-whatever version of the gradle plugin.
Jun 07 22:15:33 <Odaym> NaN??? in Android??
Jun 07 22:15:33 <bilb_ono> a camera app which adds bitmaps (watermarks)
Jun 07 22:15:44 <Odaym> :O
Jun 07 22:15:46 <Vercinger> Odaym, it's java.. but.. they're meanies
Jun 07 22:15:52 <Skizzy> @Vercinger let me give it a look
Jun 07 22:15:54 <Odaym> there's NaN in Java?
Jun 07 22:15:56 <Odaym> wow
Jun 07 22:16:08 <Odaym> never knew
Jun 07 22:16:09 <expr> dex2goat: aha, thanks!
Jun 07 22:16:20 <dex2goat> :0
Jun 07 22:16:21 <dex2goat> :)
Jun 07 22:16:26 <Vercinger> apparently so.. my suspiscion is that it's that method that is returning NaN
Jun 07 22:16:51 <bilb_ono> Odaym, when would dimensions kick in? Its already been drawn
Jun 07 22:17:10 <Odaym> you have to check
Jun 07 22:17:20 <Odaym> can you confirm that they are zero, first?
Jun 07 22:17:23 <Odaym> i was just guessing
Jun 07 22:18:02 <bilb_ono> no its 450. and doesn't seem to change when I scale the bitmap
Jun 07 22:18:10 <bilb_ono> i guess thats the original dimension
Jun 07 22:19:27 <Odaym> do you just have the canvas sitting on the image at least? fitting to the exact dimensions of it?
Jun 07 22:19:33 <Odaym> as a first step, do you have that?
Jun 07 22:20:29 <bilb_ono> umm not yet. so just to confirm, once I do that, am I still applying the transformation to the bitmap or now to the canvas?
Jun 07 22:21:00 <Odaym> I dont know but I do know that that part is what you should nail first
Jun 07 22:21:23 <Odaym> be it an image that is match parent in height or in width, the canvas must stick to it and not go outside of it
Jun 07 22:22:01 <bilb_ono> ok so an imageview which contains a canvas which contains a bitmap. They should all be the exact same size as the bitmap and no larger
Jun 07 22:22:03 <bilb_ono> right?
Jun 07 22:22:09 <Odaym> without that, you will find yourself overriding onMeasure and resorting to methods like getInstrinsticHeight on the image and requestLayout after setting new layoutParams to the canvas
Jun 07 22:22:34 <Odaym> yes, and not at runtime to do those!
Jun 07 22:23:09 <bilb_ono> whats wrong with overriding onMeasure and getIntrinsicHeight?
Jun 07 22:23:18 <bilb_ono> just harder to work with based on your experience?
Jun 07 22:23:34 <Odaym> harder work for something that can be done in a much easier way is wrong work
Jun 07 22:23:42 <Odaym> not just "the hard way around it", it's just wrong
Jun 07 22:24:28 <Odaym> and it's wrong because your canvas will start drawing from 0,0. Means that you cannot get it to wrpa around the image like you want, because you will get the exact dimens maybe, but who will tell the canvas where to start drawing?
Jun 07 22:24:47 <Odaym> so you'll get a canvas with the correct dimens but it started drawing itself from the very top of the view, not from the middle where the image actually started
Jun 07 22:24:58 <Odaym> so now you need to set margins on it
Jun 07 22:25:06 <Skizzy> yo
Jun 07 22:25:11 <bilb_ono> so should I be transforming the canvas or the imageview?
Jun 07 22:25:18 <Vercinger> yo Skizzy, didn't notice u left :P
Jun 07 22:25:23 <Skizzy> I'm back
Jun 07 22:25:25 <Odaym> there is no transformation
Jun 07 22:25:25 <Vercinger> any ideas? :)
Jun 07 22:25:28 <Odaym> it's purely a layout issue
Jun 07 22:25:38 <bilb_ono> but I have to move it around
Jun 07 22:25:39 <Skizzy> what are you trying to do?
Jun 07 22:25:47 <Odaym> sure, but at least get that done first
Jun 07 22:25:57 <Odaym> doesnt it have to start on the image first??
Jun 07 22:26:00 <Vercinger> I have a double, with a LOT of digits after the decimal and I just want to trim'em..
Jun 07 22:26:01 <Odaym> before anything happens?
Jun 07 22:26:11 <Agamemnus> Hi! What's the Gradle method of adding signing keys and passwords?
Jun 07 22:26:14 <Vercinger> so there's only 2 digits after the decimal..
Jun 07 22:26:59 <Skizzy> gg
Jun 07 22:27:52 <Agamemnus> In other words, with Ant, it's like this:
Jun 07 22:27:57 <Agamemnus> http://pastebin.com/uskjGUp9
Jun 07 22:28:02 <Agamemnus> How do I do this with Gradle?
Jun 07 22:29:14 <Skizzy> wait are you trying to build your project and sign it via gradle and all that magic
Jun 07 22:29:51 <dex2goat> Agamemnus: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gradle+sign+apk
Jun 07 22:30:43 <Skizzy> its pretty easy
Jun 07 22:30:58 <Skizzy> hit the Build > Sign APK or project
Jun 07 22:31:10 <Skizzy> i cant remember what it says
Jun 07 22:31:16 <Agamemnus> My friend
Jun 07 22:31:27 <Agamemnus> Fiddlesticks you. Fiddlesticks you.
Jun 07 22:31:40 <Skizzy> k
Jun 07 22:32:04 <Agamemnus> I found something
Jun 07 22:32:08 <Agamemnus> it probably won't work
Jun 07 22:32:26 <Agamemnus> Didn't work.
Jun 07 22:32:51 <Agamemnus> I found how to do it, but I don't know where to put it.
Jun 07 22:33:37 <Skizzy> the apk file or the key store?
Jun 07 22:33:46 <Odaym> just Build > Sign.....
Jun 07 22:33:48 <Odaym> too easy
Jun 07 22:33:56 <dex2goat> Vercinger: You might want to use a BigDecimal for that, similar to what Apache Commons does in MathUtils: http://grepcode.com/file/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.apache.commons/commons-math/2.1/org/apache/commons/math/util/MathUtils.java#1210
Jun 07 22:34:05 <Skizzy> make sure you're on a up to date version of gradle that meets the sdk reqs
Jun 07 22:34:33 <Skizzy> i made a youtube video on upgrading http://youtube.com/thepcmrtim
Jun 07 22:34:51 <Agamemnus> I am using the command line.
Jun 07 22:34:59 <Agamemnus> There is now Build > Sign with the command line.
Jun 07 22:35:02 <Agamemnus> no*
Jun 07 22:36:03 <dex2goat> If you define a signingConfig for your build it will be signed when you invoke it.
Jun 07 22:36:46 <Skizzy> y r u using it via the command line
Jun 07 22:37:08 <Skizzy> why are you trying to sign it via that way
Jun 07 22:37:40 <Skizzy> i think i remember a way of doing that but it requires you to have a keystore file
Jun 07 22:38:40 <Agamemnus> I'm using Cordova
Jun 07 22:38:54 <Skizzy> oh
Jun 07 22:38:59 <Skizzy> explains a lot
Jun 07 22:39:16 <Skizzy> just build the project via android studio it speeds up time
Jun 07 22:39:29 <Skizzy> or you can just extract the apk from ur phone
Jun 07 22:40:34 <Agamemnus> I don't know android studio
Jun 07 22:40:51 <dex2goat> Agamemnus have you read this: http://developer.android.com/tools/publishing/app-signing.html
Jun 07 22:41:01 <dex2goat> android studio is not required
Jun 07 22:41:09 <Agamemnus> i know how to sign the app
Jun 07 22:41:20 <Agamemnus> yes, i see this
Jun 07 22:41:44 <phix> Agamemnus: What's that?
Jun 07 22:42:02 <Agamemnus> "Add the signing configuration to the build file for the app module:" I don't know what that is
Jun 07 22:43:03 <Skizzy> gtg dads trying to kill me
Jun 07 22:43:27 <dex2goat> it means there's a build.gradle file for your app module (normally a project may have multiple modules), I'm assuming your project has only one.
Jun 07 22:43:40 <Vercinger> but hey.. My code works as intended in 99% of the time.. It need some tweaking but I'm happy that I didn't have major flaws..
Jun 07 22:43:53 <Agamemnus> i'm actually in the build.gradle file right now and I saw that
Jun 07 22:44:09 <dex2goat> Vercinger: I've actually tested your code and couldn't get it to return a NaN. What's the input you're using?
Jun 07 22:44:31 <Agamemnus> but I got this error:
Jun 07 22:44:33 <Agamemnus> > Cannot cast object 'C:/xyz.keystore' with class 'java.lang.String' to class 'java.io.File'
Jun 07 22:44:49 <Agamemnus> oh
Jun 07 22:44:53 <Agamemnus> i have to do file()
Jun 07 22:45:02 <Ivis> Hi
Jun 07 22:45:05 <Ivis> noob here
Jun 07 22:45:08 <dex2goat> hola
Jun 07 22:45:10 <Agamemnus> BULLSHEET!
Jun 07 22:45:37 <Ivis> can i ask some noob questions ?
Jun 07 22:45:38 <Ivis> LD
Jun 07 22:45:40 <Ivis> :D
Jun 07 22:46:05 <Agamemnus> sure go ahead
Jun 07 22:46:40 <Agamemnus> now i am getting this error
Jun 07 22:46:42 <Agamemnus> Could not find apk architecture: arm build-type: release
Jun 07 22:46:49 <Agamemnus> ??????
Jun 07 22:47:02 <Ivis> i wanna build an android app for my personal use, it's like a offline database with birds
Jun 07 22:47:09 <Ivis> how hard would it be?
Jun 07 22:47:15 <dex2goat> interesting
Jun 07 22:47:27 <expr> woohoo! everything's working on the stable channel, not building for M
Jun 07 22:47:35 <dex2goat> SQLite has a BIRD datatype
Jun 07 22:48:59 <g00s> dex2goat awesome for me :)
Jun 07 22:49:10 <Ivis> and how cool would be an app who indentif birds by their sound, like music finder apps
Jun 07 22:49:11 <dex2goat> hehe
Jun 07 22:49:13 <Ivis> would be a killer app
Jun 07 22:49:18 <Agamemnus> it wouldn't be difficult at all, especially if you used cordova
Jun 07 22:49:20 <dex2goat> Ivis: there's already something like that
Jun 07 22:49:27 <Ivis> dex2goat o.O ?
Jun 07 22:49:30 <g00s> there is a bird recognition AI app out
Jun 07 22:49:30 <Ivis> show me
Jun 07 22:50:08 <dex2goat> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1190241008/warblr-an-app-that-recognises-birds-from-their-son?ref=nav_search
Jun 07 22:50:14 <g00s> http://www.gizmag.com/merlin-bird-photo-id/37907/
Jun 07 22:50:28 <g00s> http://merlin.allaboutbirds.org/photo-id
Jun 07 22:50:33 <Ivis> cool
Jun 07 22:50:38 <Ivis> gotta check this out
Jun 07 22:50:39 <Ivis> thanks
Jun 07 22:51:02 <g00s> soon everything is going to be dead though, won't need it then
Jun 07 22:51:15 <g00s> 'bird carcas identifier'
Jun 07 22:51:20 <Ivis> =/
Jun 07 22:51:23 <Ivis> not so soon
Jun 07 22:51:27 <Ivis> we have some time to enjoy it
Jun 07 22:51:28 <Ivis> lol
Jun 07 22:51:37 <Ivis> our kids may not
Jun 07 22:52:02 <g00s> 2 things beating up the birds are cats (in some areas) and persticides in others
Jun 07 22:52:15 <dex2goat> this made my day: https://twitter.com/gilesgoatboy/status/606645929307828224/photo/1
Jun 07 22:52:42 <Agamemnus> carcass
Jun 07 22:52:46 <Agamemnus> wait
Jun 07 22:52:50 <Agamemnus> don't forget global warming
Jun 07 22:52:58 <Agamemnus> joshua trees not reproducing
Jun 07 22:53:00 <Ivis> that's depressing
Jun 07 22:53:05 <Agamemnus> no shade for birds
Jun 07 22:53:35 <Odaym> lol dex2goat
Jun 07 22:53:55 <Odaym> there a picture on how to understand functional programming? :P
Jun 07 22:54:40 <Agamemnus> lol dex2goat, indeed
Jun 07 22:54:43 <dex2goat> did you have your aha-moment already?
Jun 07 22:54:58 <Odaym> nope
Jun 07 22:55:05 <Odaym> I tried with SICP
Jun 07 22:55:07 <Odaym> a lot
Jun 07 22:55:12 <Odaym> never got it
Jun 07 22:55:26 <dex2goat> this helped me: http://blog.danlew.net/2014/09/15/grokking-rxjava-part-1/
Jun 07 22:55:30 <dex2goat> (4 parts)
Jun 07 22:56:08 <Odaym> I never understood it cause I never really could pinpoint where the actual code was running, it was all things that were supposed to do things and you end up with a solution out of nothing
Jun 07 22:56:40 <g00s> oh yeah, and the birds are eating lots of bright plastic things too
Jun 07 22:56:48 <Odaym> "not yet...not yet...not yet...DONE, PROGRAM OVER!"
Jun 07 22:57:02 <Odaym> especially in Towers of Hanoi in SICP
Jun 07 22:57:05 <Odaym> if you follow it
Jun 07 22:57:51 <Agamemnus> because functional programming extremists are minimalists
Jun 07 22:58:01 <Odaym> ..what
Jun 07 22:58:10 <Agamemnus> they reduce a program into too many parts. You can't see what's going on
Jun 07 22:58:27 <Odaym> the nature of how it works has nothing to do with the people man
Jun 07 22:58:31 <Odaym> what're you tlaking about
Jun 07 22:59:03 <Odaym> like saying Gosling talks too much in real life, that's why Java is so verbose
Jun 07 22:59:57 <Odaym> actually..you might be correct in some aspect, if you read Hackers Heroes of the Computer Revolution you see that their culture at MIT had a special ritual that they called Bumming
Jun 07 23:00:08 <Odaym> it was simply to grab any code and compete over who can make it run with fewer lines
Jun 07 23:00:18 <Odaym> cause they were like that
Jun 07 23:00:33 <Odaym> that's when lisp came out, as that culture was forming
Jun 07 23:00:43 <dex2goat> lisp, fuck objects!
Jun 07 23:00:49 <Odaym> more like fuck logic
Jun 07 23:00:55 <Odaym> I'd rather verbose over POWERFUL
Jun 07 23:01:21 <Agamemnus> there has to be a balance
Jun 07 23:01:25 <Odaym> who's gonna understand what you wrote, even if its rocket science and so efficient
Jun 07 23:01:37 <Agamemnus> yeah...
Jun 07 23:01:38 <dex2goat> ^^ second that
Jun 07 23:01:45 <Odaym> I couldn't even understand that simple function that SICP starts with
Jun 07 23:01:54 <Odaym> hmmm prime numbers I think
Jun 07 23:01:57 <Odaym> or square root
Jun 07 23:02:10 <Odaym> yea, the primitive method of square root, how to actually calculate sqrt
Jun 07 23:02:21 <Odaym> with the guess method
Jun 07 23:02:34 <Agamemnus> SHIT!
Jun 07 23:02:37 <Odaym> newton's method
Jun 07 23:02:41 <Agamemnus> **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 08 02:59:59 2015