**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 13 02:59:59 2015 Jun 13 03:07:42 ^^ Jun 13 03:07:57 still trying to make it work, lul Jun 13 03:12:51 huh, guys do you know a good book about system analysis? Jun 13 03:18:51 Hey guys Jun 13 03:21:14 Guys getting a weird error in my xml saying all attributes inside of my cardView are "Not allowed here" Jun 13 03:21:21 Anyone willing to take a look at it? Jun 13 03:21:57 pastebin... Jun 13 03:22:34 pastebin is willing to look at _anything_ Jun 13 03:22:46 http://pastie.org/private/50lsekuzgpfv8k3hjumbg Jun 13 03:22:56 So everything inside of the CardView is getting "Not allowed here" Jun 13 03:25:16 But if I add /> to the CardView, it removes that error but gives me a new one Jun 13 03:26:40 I thought fill_parent was deprecated?? Jun 13 03:28:08 You guys see anything? Jun 13 03:30:24 fill_parent is deprecated, you should use match_parent. Jun 13 03:30:40 But would that be my issue Jun 13 03:30:43 at the root relativelayout you have android:orientation="vertical", relative layout does not use orientation. Jun 13 03:30:59 maybe that's your problem Jun 13 03:31:18 Good catch, but no Jun 13 03:32:47 also, is xmlns:card_view="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res-auto" really required? Jun 13 03:33:15 Yes, so I can add card_view:cardCornerRadius Jun 13 03:33:55 dunno, looks fine to me. try reducing the problem areas though - make a new layout with just the card view, make sure that works. add subviews. then stick it into your relative layout. Jun 13 03:34:09 Got it, thanks groxx Jun 13 03:34:16 Could be an AS error Jun 13 03:35:11 always possible too, yeah. done a rebuild / try invalidating caches if it seems like that could be the problem Jun 13 03:36:22 Sounds goood Jun 13 03:37:44 goooood Jun 13 03:38:16 * groxx has flashbacks to the Star Wars failogy Jun 13 03:39:51 :O Jun 13 03:53:34 groxx: I thought the prequels were just as good as the sequels and I think people who would say otherwise are not true Star Wars fans. Jun 13 04:01:44 when writing a "file manager" type app, under the hood is it just calling cmmand line binaries like ls or is some type of functionality built into the sdk for this? Jun 13 04:02:17 Curious about best practices -- how often do you guys use log messages? Should I be logging every step in the process to truly understand how something works? Jun 13 04:03:56 And afterwards should I keep the logging messages in permanently and only remove for production (through proguard)? or remove from my code Jun 13 04:04:45 Just curious because I feel like I don't use Log enough Jun 13 04:05:33 how the hell do u guys even understand all this android programming shit.. it seems so complicated compared to anything else Jun 13 04:05:39 i suck at it.. always will Jun 13 04:05:41 =[ Jun 13 04:06:35 Start by learning Java. If you don't know Java's fundamentals you will have a hell of a hard time Jun 13 04:06:37 Aernt LinearLayouts scrollable by default? Jun 13 04:06:49 maybe thats my problem =[ Jun 13 04:07:00 i come from c# tho so u would think itd be an easy switch Jun 13 04:07:07 but for me, not so much Jun 13 04:07:56 is it possible to work for a company if youve mastered android development? even if you dont have a degree, how much would they make Jun 13 04:09:03 Of course it's possible. Why wouldn't it be? Jun 13 04:09:11 Android devs are in hot demand. Will definitely be hard unless you have a portfolio though since no degree Jun 13 04:09:23 where i come from, its possible but not probable Jun 13 04:09:48 u aint getting any type of IT job without a degree or master cert Jun 13 04:09:54 i have a big portfolio, lots of apps, and i even design my own graphics in illustrator Jun 13 04:09:57 Foxhoundz: I'll leave it up to plinkett http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9A12F8F947849C30 he's ... annoyingly coarse at times, but covers a huge range of the issues. not that the originals don't have plenty of flaws, but they weren't anywhere near the same level of "I have no idea what I'm doing"ness. Jun 13 04:14:57 but i would never go to college, it seems really expensive -and everyone there thinks theyre better than people that dont go to college, I want to make it the old fashioned way Jun 13 04:15:48 hopefully android studio don't blow up my i5 Jun 13 04:16:54 it wont Jun 13 04:18:11 drose379: it blow my netbook up Jun 13 04:18:12 :P Jun 13 04:18:21 then again, to be fair it lag on eclipse Jun 13 04:19:13 haha Jun 13 04:19:45 drose379: I am now using my most powerful computer to run android studio Jun 13 04:19:52 what is it Jun 13 04:19:53 i5 5xxum Jun 13 04:20:01 alienware m11xr2 Jun 13 04:20:02 i5 Jun 13 04:20:03 model Jun 13 04:20:15 Should be fine Jun 13 04:21:16 drose379: the gui is killing me Under Choose options for your new file, change the Activity Name to MyActivity. Jun 13 04:21:28 where can find the activity button Jun 13 04:23:36 Dont know what you mean Jun 13 04:27:04 NateRiver: I hired Treelzebub as an Android dev and he doesn't have a CS degree Jun 13 04:27:17 drose379: https://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/creating-project.html Jun 13 04:27:20 following this guide Jun 13 04:27:26 But you definitely have to be able to demonstrate a lot of motivation and hunger Jun 13 04:27:27 but lost on step 7 Jun 13 04:27:33 Ok, whats the issue? Jun 13 04:27:45 He also did a bootcamp, which helped Jun 13 04:27:52 Just change the value in the GUI Jun 13 04:29:03 drose379: I can't find the activity thing to edit Jun 13 04:29:12 asarazan: any free boot camps recommendation Jun 13 04:29:15 broke as hell Jun 13 04:30:22 drose379: http://imgur.com/0Ka1ytc ? Jun 13 04:30:30 I can't edit the activity Jun 13 04:30:41 you can Jun 13 04:30:50 open up the first folder in java Jun 13 04:30:54 and see whats in there Jun 13 04:31:42 drose379: it said no files are open Jun 13 04:33:16 drose379: http://imgur.com/tnBIv46 Jun 13 04:33:35 Open up the app folder Jun 13 04:34:09 then src Jun 13 04:34:11 then main Jun 13 04:34:13 then java Jun 13 04:35:16 drose379: no goal Jun 13 04:35:24 let me deleted the thing and start over again Jun 13 04:35:32 ok Jun 13 04:36:06 ide is poor's man nightmare Jun 13 04:36:35 why? Jun 13 04:37:41 drose379: ide rarely runs smoothly on low end pc Jun 13 04:37:49 ah thats true Jun 13 04:37:59 the only ide that my netbook can run smoothly is geany Jun 13 04:38:15 and geany as an ide is pretty much text editor Jun 13 04:38:22 I figure out what I did wrong Jun 13 04:38:28 I chose add no activity Jun 13 04:39:17 Makes sense Jun 13 04:40:04 groxx you ther Jun 13 04:40:32 drose379: ayup Jun 13 04:40:35 mostly Jun 13 04:40:42 Does FAB come with the sdk now? Jun 13 04:40:46 Or do I have to use a lib still Jun 13 04:40:48 drose379: I think pretty much I just have to learn how to system.out.println and take user input I can start developing apps Jun 13 04:41:22 stupid question.... doing `datagram_sock.setSoTimeout(n);` throws SocketException with ENODEV. Any clues? The socket is perfect. It is joined to a multicast group though Jun 13 04:42:26 drose379: there's the "design support" lib. sounds like v1 has a variety of not-insignificant bugs though. Jun 13 04:42:37 Ok, thanks groxx Jun 13 04:43:12 fab in particular does come in it, but you need some border attribute or something to make it into a circle on all oses Jun 13 04:43:12 hmm, thought iosched sources would be out by now Jun 13 04:43:21 where is the main in android ? Jun 13 04:43:58 there is no main Jun 13 04:44:01 horny-sama: you need to stop right here and actually learn things. Read a java book, etc Jun 13 04:44:15 you're just going to trial-and-error and waste so much time Jun 13 04:44:42 there is always a main Jun 13 04:45:02 well, that is true Jun 13 04:46:34 ac_slater_: I have developed java programs https://github.com/mr-fool/java (haven't touch java for awhile) Jun 13 04:46:44 pretty sure I know some java Jun 13 04:47:21 horny-sama: ah good. I just didnt want you to go down the rabbit hole. I've done that and found its much better to stop and read Jun 13 04:47:46 ac_slater_: I am trying to find books on android dev Jun 13 04:47:47 you're comment about ".. just learn getline and println to develop apps" was a little misleading Jun 13 04:48:04 ac_slater_: sorry about that Jun 13 04:48:22 any android dev recommendation hate google doc Jun 13 04:48:29 horny-sama: haha no need to apologize to me. Everyone does their own thing Jun 13 04:49:22 ac_slater_: any bookz recommendation Jun 13 04:50:22 horny-sama hmm, beside commonsware the rest are a little out of date now Jun 13 04:50:49 now I have to figure out how come it print helloworld without my doing system.out.println Jun 13 04:51:16 g00s: I got that one Jun 13 04:51:21 horny-sama: android.util.Log Jun 13 04:51:23 that one is still talking about eclispse Jun 13 04:51:32 ac_slater_: ? Jun 13 04:51:34 horny-sama: and no sadly, no book recommendations Jun 13 04:51:44 horny-sama ... i thought he changed that over a while ago ? Jun 13 04:51:51 are you using old version ? Jun 13 04:52:55 g00s: I got the 3.6 Jun 13 04:52:55 horny-sama: http://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/wiki/index Jun 13 04:53:06 horny-sama thats ancient right ? Jun 13 04:53:27 its at 6.6 now Jun 13 04:53:51 g00s: let me find where I can find it for free Jun 13 04:54:02 horny-sama why not buy it Jun 13 04:54:54 g00s: how much is it Jun 13 04:54:58 coz I am pretty broke :< Jun 13 05:01:34 building a simple helloworld will take me forever Jun 13 05:04:45 have you tried searching hello world android studio in google ? Jun 13 05:04:49 o android studio tutorial ? Jun 13 05:04:51 or* Jun 13 05:05:26 Anyone know if the WebView crash is still affecting devices? I want to switch from a TextView based layout to a WebView as it would be much easier than stacking dozens of TextViews together but I'm a bit worried about it crashing on certain devices Jun 13 05:07:53 What kind of data are you displaying? Jun 13 05:08:08 lemg_mx: yep Jun 13 05:08:26 so where are you having trouble exactly? Jun 13 05:09:11 liuwenhao: plain text? Jun 13 05:10:22 lemg_mx: I don't understand how come I can print hello world without me telling it to Jun 13 05:10:40 you are telling it to do it. Jun 13 05:10:52 in your mainactivity in the oncreate method. Jun 13 05:11:08 Actually I think it comes automatically with new projects Jun 13 05:11:10 in the xml file Jun 13 05:11:59 http://www.fpaste.org/231705/41723041/ <---no helloworld is mentioned Jun 13 05:12:18 in the line Jun 13 05:12:20 setContentView(R.layout.activity_my) Jun 13 05:12:27 you are "creating" the interface. Jun 13 05:12:32 desmin88: text and images, nothing more. Jun 13 05:12:40 the interface already has a TextView with the string hello world Jun 13 05:12:55 liuwenhao: A WebView is kind of heavy just for text and some images Jun 13 05:12:57 you can see the layout (or interface) in the res/layout/activity_my.xml file. Jun 13 05:13:31 strings.xml? Jun 13 05:13:37 no Jun 13 05:13:50 res/layout/activity_my.xml Jun 13 05:13:51 Problem is I don't really want to deal with 10-20+ TextViews in one activity to get the design I want. Or should I just suck it up and stick with TextViews? Jun 13 05:14:17 Why can't you put it all in one textview Jun 13 05:14:31 lemg_mx: got it Jun 13 05:14:47 Different fonts, different justification, different text sizes, etc Jun 13 05:14:53 gosh even amazon.ca does not carry the latest edition of The Busy Coder's Guide to Advanced Android Development Jun 13 05:15:07 Guys im trying to add an icon to my FAB but it keeps coming out blurry Jun 13 05:15:11 Anyone have experience with this? Jun 13 05:15:32 liuwenhao: Does your text have html tags? Jun 13 05:15:43 is that how it gets its styling? Jun 13 05:16:28 Yeah. But a lot of the HTML I want to use isn't supported by the default Html.fromHtml. Jun 13 05:17:15 I could always implement a custom adapter for it. I just figured webview would be easier and save me some hassle Jun 13 05:17:32 or just stack a bunch of textviews together Jun 13 05:17:42 What html do you use that it doesnt support? Jun 13 05:19:12 img? :P Jun 13 05:19:25 it does support image. Jun 13 05:19:36 :O Jun 13 05:21:08 do people usually post android app source code on github? Jun 13 05:21:09

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, unordered list, etc. Obviously the justifying could be done in XML but that would require separate textviews for each item I want to display Jun 13 05:21:42 TextView not supporting

WebView has everything I would need. Except for the whole crashing the app thing. Jun 13 05:22:39 Plus its very 'heavy' Jun 13 05:23:24 You can use a custom taghandler Jun 13 05:25:10 How much of a performance difference is there? It will only be used in a one-off activity that isn't super important to the actual function of the app Jun 13 05:25:21 oh Jun 13 05:25:39 If it was the whole app I would definitely go with taghandler Jun 13 05:25:39 eh i personally notice when a webview is used to render just text and html Jun 13 05:26:29 The Busy Coder’s Guide to Android Development <--- they should at least offer it on amazon Jun 13 05:26:46 Slower than performance in Chrome? or the same Jun 13 05:27:11 slower Jun 13 05:28:06 Hmm. I kinda want to try it now just to see it in action because I've never used a WebView before Jun 13 05:28:16 -.- Jun 13 05:28:32 Curious as to how slow it will be on emulator Jun 13 05:29:46 Thanks for the info desmin88 Jun 13 05:31:28 horny-sama its a subscription, constantly updated Jun 13 05:31:53 pointless to print. actually, he did a print version for apress called 'beginners guide to android' at one point Jun 13 05:33:07 g00s: it is on amazon (print) but it is dated Jun 13 05:33:16 horny-sama are you dense Jun 13 05:33:31 g00s: the problem I have is that you can't use paypal unless it is 100usd or above Jun 13 05:33:39 oh horny i guess :) Jun 13 05:34:24 g00s is that book worth reading? All encompassing books like that always seem hit or miss in terms of actual usefulness Jun 13 05:34:45 g00s: fyi, I found smashing_android_ui_example_app for dl Jun 13 05:34:46 hehe Jun 13 05:34:49 its the only one up to date. but honestly, i liked big nerd and reto better Jun 13 05:35:03 but they are ... not quite ready Jun 13 05:35:07 g00s: I just need to learn the basic then it is rtfm Jun 13 05:35:17 so I don't need it to be cutting edge Jun 13 05:35:26 but at least have something on android studio Jun 13 05:35:37 AS is constantly changing Jun 13 05:35:38 If you just want Android basics you should watch tutorials, Android books are kinda worthless Jun 13 05:35:40 as long as they have something on android studio I am good Jun 13 05:35:54 there are thousands of free tutorials on youtube and other sites Jun 13 05:36:00 Slidenerd for example is very good Jun 13 05:36:56 or Lynda.com Jun 13 05:37:36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqlbxoeeiOo&list=PLonJJ3BVjZW6hYgvtkaWvwAVvOFB7fkLa&index=4 Jun 13 05:37:38 got it Jun 13 05:37:47 will watch it tomorrow Jun 13 05:38:03 https://www.udacity.com/course/developing-android-apps--ud853 Jun 13 05:38:14 in the debugger where would the global variables be kept? theres only "this" and under that a bunch of mVariables Jun 13 05:38:24 You can get all the udacity course materials for free. And the course is run by Googlers Jun 13 05:39:05 nice Jun 13 05:39:16 liuwenhao: I will try the youtube approach first then read Jun 13 05:39:18 :P Jun 13 05:39:25 NateRiver, this is global... Jun 13 05:39:31 is the udacity course free ? Jun 13 05:39:37 you mean static? Jun 13 05:39:44 Yeah. Getting your hands dirty and reading the documentation along the way is the best way to do it. The sooner you start actually building an app the faster you'll learn Jun 13 05:39:49 G00s all of the course material is free Jun 13 05:40:01 if you want 1 on 1 teacher interaction you have to pay Jun 13 05:40:10 all the mooc are free Jun 13 05:40:12 pfn yeah static Jun 13 05:40:30 NateRiver, no panel, evaluate them manually Jun 13 05:40:31 hell maybe i should take it Jun 13 05:41:02 Guys: top or bottom Jun 13 05:41:04 http://i.imgur.com/4S0redg.png Jun 13 05:41:07 I thought about getting the Android Deveoper nanodegree just to pad my resume. But it's kinda expensive Jun 13 05:41:18 pfn soo basically i need to assign them to variables for them to show up in debugger? i use a Singleton Jun 13 05:41:27 drose379: Top Jun 13 05:41:36 thanks for looking liuwehano Jun 13 05:41:50 NateRiver, just evaluate them Jun 13 05:42:00 liuwenhao oh so the nanodegree is not free; is that 1:1 instruction ? Jun 13 05:42:14 run the expression evaluator Jun 13 05:42:44 The nanodegree course material is free. But if you actually want the degree you have to submit your projects for evaluation and participate in the discussions Jun 13 05:42:51 So you have to pay for htat Jun 13 05:42:52 that* Jun 13 05:43:01 ok Jun 13 05:43:09 You get half the money that you spend back once you complete the degree. Jun 13 05:43:25 i guess thats motivation to complete :) Jun 13 05:43:37 Yeah. the best motivation haha Jun 13 05:44:12 I'll probably do it when I am back in the united state with good internet Jun 13 05:44:12 drose379: pick up your phone Jun 13 05:44:13 i read my last android book around froyo 2.2; since then i just read whats new - but sometimes, like MNC, its so far out i'm not paying attention. so i miss stuff Jun 13 05:44:15 you missed a call Jun 13 05:46:33 pfn, okay i guess i never heard of an expression evaluator in a debugger Jun 13 05:47:38 NateRiver, use the google Jun 13 05:48:00 http://www.fpaste.org/231710/74458143/ Jun 13 05:48:03 NateRiver: alt-f8 on Android Studio, "Display" view in Eclipse Jun 13 05:48:05 http://www.fpaste.org/231710/74458143/ <---trying to push my android app source code to github but fail :< Jun 13 05:49:00 mr-fool, git pull Jun 13 05:49:12 then push Jun 13 05:50:03 pfn: helloworld]$ git pull https://github.com/mr-fool/Android/tree/master/helloworld Jun 13 05:50:03 fatal: repository 'https://github.com/mr-fool/Android/tree/master/helloworld/' not found Jun 13 05:50:04 :< Jun 13 05:50:49 google on how to use git? Jun 13 05:50:54 yeah... Jun 13 05:50:58 not here Jun 13 05:51:00 pfn heeyyyy thats really cool, its like magic Jun 13 05:51:04 or just read the copy/paste instructions of the github page Jun 13 05:51:25 NateRiver, it's handt Jun 13 05:51:28 also #git channel on freenode Jun 13 05:52:15 1100 people in that channel, i'm sure someone will help Jun 13 05:52:22 liuwenhao: got it Jun 13 05:52:47 My CPC is down 40% on last month with adsense, anyone else the same? Jun 13 05:53:09 So the NavigationView doesn't allow set-checking for things in sub menus, yay. Jun 13 05:56:22 does android studio has build-in function that allows you to upload it on github :P Jun 13 05:57:08 It has git support but I'm not a fan of it, I prefer SourceTree Jun 13 05:57:46 yes, but I always prefer working with git from cli Jun 13 05:59:22 You'll be much more productive with a GUI Jun 13 05:59:37 horny-sama you can download the plugin (file -> settings -> plugins) Jun 13 06:00:06 liuwenhao: okay thx Jun 13 06:00:23 out of curiosity, do you guys develop using window or linux? Jun 13 06:00:31 Windows and Mac Jun 13 06:00:37 Linux Jun 13 06:00:49 windows, because i need to do more than programming Jun 13 06:00:50 Windows. Because I game and am too lazy to dualboot this laptop Jun 13 06:00:56 plus photoshop Jun 13 06:01:08 and adobe premiere Jun 13 06:01:47 I really like xUbuntu though. I wish more software supported Linux so I could use it full time Jun 13 06:02:06 I generally use fedora except when I am doing android dev coz my netbook is too slow for android studio :< Jun 13 06:02:37 yes, photoshop Jun 13 06:02:40 They still make netbooks? i thought that fad died Jun 13 06:03:16 liuwenhao: it is an ancient computer Jun 13 06:03:17 so.. Jun 13 06:03:25 it is like 4-5 yrs old Jun 13 06:03:36 I like the idea of netbook Jun 13 06:03:42 ultrabook is too expensive Jun 13 06:04:32 i figure if i had no future plans of iOS dev i could go back to windows - but even though the apple stuff is expensive, there are some really good Mac Apps which are affordable and replace expensive stuff like Adobe (pixelmator, sketch), etc Jun 13 06:04:57 but i've noticed most hardcore embedded tools are windows only Jun 13 06:05:19 like IAR embedded workbench, etc Jun 13 06:05:20 g00s: but mac adaptor is $$$ Jun 13 06:05:42 especially now they are their air only have one adaptor usb type c if I recall correctly Jun 13 06:05:52 I used to have a Macbook pro but OSX drove me insane. It seems to be getting progressively worse ever since Snow Leopard Jun 13 06:05:56 what kind of moron will include only one port Jun 13 06:05:58 seriously Jun 13 06:06:13 yeah i dont like that 1 adapter thing either, wonder what the future MBPs will do Jun 13 06:06:22 people who buy air's don't actually have to do work on them Jun 13 06:06:33 i keep thinking, if my only port busts, my computer is unusable :( Jun 13 06:06:42 g00s: but generally don't you have to buy adopters for mac stuff Jun 13 06:06:57 liuwenhao: fair point Jun 13 06:07:09 I thought about air over pro coz I think it is cheaper Jun 13 06:08:01 for the same price of a new air you could buy a used/refurbished windows ultrabook with 2x the performance Jun 13 06:08:05 and a better screen Jun 13 06:08:15 i kinda like MacOS itself, but i dont like apple hardware at all Jun 13 06:08:36 liuwenhao: don't you need xcode for ios dev? Jun 13 06:09:11 The only reason I will buy a mac is for ios dev and chick magnet Jun 13 06:09:20 reasons* Jun 13 06:09:42 one of the reasons i dislike PC is it feels like buying a car Jun 13 06:09:52 chick magnet? :D better buy a nice car for this^^ Jun 13 06:10:18 i guess dell is doing better these days, the xps 13 got good reviews Jun 13 06:10:20 ktwo: yes Jun 13 06:10:32 chicks be like how to I do this on mac Jun 13 06:10:33 :P Jun 13 06:10:40 a car costs more than a mac Jun 13 06:10:45 I think Jun 13 06:11:01 If you want to dev for both iOS and Android you should use Xamarin instead of xcode and android studio. much better to have one codebase Jun 13 06:11:23 or you could just run xcode in a virtual machine Jun 13 06:11:47 eh Jun 13 06:11:50 native code ftw Jun 13 06:11:59 xamarin is also quite expensive Jun 13 06:11:59 desmin88: not to companies Jun 13 06:12:12 disagree Jun 13 06:12:20 company is about quick release more cash and runnnn Jun 13 06:12:29 never see this sucker again :P Jun 13 06:12:55 quite pessimistic Jun 13 06:13:06 objective of companies = make money not user Jun 13 06:13:11 desmin88: more like scam Jun 13 06:13:21 give me money to build rocket then run Jun 13 06:13:23 in the long-term this will kill the company Jun 13 06:13:40 thats quote naive Jun 13 06:13:42 quite* Jun 13 06:13:47 unless you are microsoft or apple, they can afford to do anything Jun 13 06:14:09 true Jun 13 06:14:10 desmin88 doesn't xamarin compile to native code? Never used it personally, just looked into it as a curiosity Jun 13 06:14:41 I am hoping to master android dev in 4 months Jun 13 06:14:43 'native' code Jun 13 06:14:43 yea it does Jun 13 06:14:46 then learn window apps Jun 13 06:14:47 :P Jun 13 06:16:21 uh Jun 13 06:16:23 4 months? Jun 13 06:16:32 more like 4 years. even then there is so much to learn Jun 13 06:16:51 It's good to have goals but at least be realistic about it -.- Jun 13 06:16:56 liuwenhao: I am trying to diversity my market Jun 13 06:17:05 like jack of all trades but master at nothing Jun 13 06:17:08 well if you are a programmer already its not that hard to get quite good in 4months Jun 13 06:17:43 the IT scene in my town, canada is depressing Jun 13 06:19:32 I am thinking of porting my old java projects to android so I can quickly build up my portfolio Jun 13 06:19:34 horny-sama: proven to be untrue about quality Jun 13 06:19:40 but i thought the same at one point Jun 13 06:19:43 EA? Jun 13 06:19:48 a lot of misses Jun 13 06:20:20 Agamemnus: is mainly about marketing Jun 13 06:20:44 normal users only care about the gui Jun 13 06:31:57 my release proguard fails, but my debug proguard doesnt. wtf Jun 13 06:40:35 how can i extract fractional value ".5" from 2.5 ? Jun 13 06:41:10 s9iper1: mod Jun 13 06:41:29 or turn it into string and use indexOf and lastIndexof? Jun 13 06:42:14 2.5 % 2 Jun 13 06:42:40 or 1. doesnt matter Jun 13 06:42:45 danijoo: why not use index of? Jun 13 06:43:12 horny-sama, depends on if he wants a number or a string as result Jun 13 06:44:07 i have a value 2.5 and i want 2 and .5 extracted Jun 13 06:44:38 2.5 % 2 vs (2.5).toString().substring((2.5).indexOf(".")) Jun 13 06:45:19 i am using this code already http://paste.ubuntu.com/11706429/ Jun 13 06:45:42 the float decimalpart is returning 0.0 Jun 13 06:45:46 s9iper1, just % and / Jun 13 06:45:53 2.5 % 2 = 0.5 Jun 13 06:45:59 2.5 / 1 = 2 Jun 13 06:46:19 or 2.5 - (2.5 % 2) Jun 13 06:46:27 ok Jun 13 06:46:30 i am trying Jun 13 06:46:46 s9iper1: will the input always be 2.5? Jun 13 06:46:57 no it will change Jun 13 06:47:43 s9iper1: then what will happen in 3.5 case you do 3.5 mod 2 since the length is still 2? Jun 13 06:47:56 then use 3.5 % 1 Jun 13 06:48:06 that will work with every number Jun 13 06:48:22 ok let me try it Jun 13 06:48:58 danijoo: good point Jun 13 06:49:36 the non decimal part would be orginial number - (num%1) Jun 13 06:49:54 http://pastebin.com/Tf7ZhH8H Jun 13 06:50:22 last line should be input - fraction ;) Jun 13 06:50:51 instead of interacting ppl in rl, I am ircing Jun 13 06:50:56