**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 20 02:59:58 2015 Jun 20 03:10:10 Odaym: use android:listSelector="@android:color/transparent" Jun 20 03:10:21 ahhh yea, true Jun 20 03:10:23 Odaym: its all because your using ListView.. Jun 20 03:10:39 I did that before but it made no selector at all because I hadnt provided such a drawable Jun 20 03:10:41 let me see one sec Jun 20 03:10:58 Odaym: are you using the onItemClickListener for the ListView? Jun 20 03:11:06 yes Jun 20 03:11:12 thats another problem then Jun 20 03:11:25 you'll need a click listener on each view if you want the ripples to work Jun 20 03:11:25 well its a..perfectly valid use case! Jun 20 03:11:32 its all problems caused by ListView Jun 20 03:13:57 worked just fine with transparent listselector color Jun 20 03:14:05 shouldve known, I tried this before Jun 20 03:14:24 but your drawable wasnt right Jun 20 03:14:28 it is Jun 20 03:14:31 now Jun 20 03:14:32 :P Jun 20 03:14:44 haha Jun 20 03:14:47 also you'll notice the ripples do not ripple out from where you touch now Jun 20 03:14:54 that whole chunk of course would not have solved anything if no proper drawable Jun 20 03:14:55 of course Jun 20 03:15:02 yes they do Jun 20 03:15:14 well a little to the left actually Jun 20 03:15:31 nope, its just right Jun 20 03:15:40 no they dont Jun 20 03:15:41 :P Jun 20 03:15:49 if you use the item click listener they dont Jun 20 03:15:52 but im looking at it.. Jun 20 03:15:53 trust me on that Jun 20 03:15:54 lol Jun 20 03:16:01 you see a ripple from the center Jun 20 03:16:08 I see where my finger landed.. Jun 20 03:16:10 g00s: I've tried rewriting it to connect with the 'spiritual-minded' http://pastebin.com/MufaKxkx Jun 20 03:16:12 even at the far right Jun 20 03:16:13 still think its trash Jun 20 03:16:14 then you dont use the item click listener Jun 20 03:16:19 you use your own click listener on top Jun 20 03:16:29 desmin88 i'd ask them for a description Jun 20 03:16:34 sure do Jun 20 03:16:41 huh? Jun 20 03:16:45 listView.setOnItemClickListener ... Jun 20 03:16:48 yeah i did Jun 20 03:16:54 this is the drag list view right? Jun 20 03:16:59 yes Jun 20 03:17:04 that is setting a click listener then Jun 20 03:17:09 nice Jun 20 03:17:13 so it overrides the onItem Jun 20 03:17:20 must be Jun 20 03:17:22 return true Jun 20 03:17:23 desmin88 that isn't bad (what i just read) Jun 20 03:17:24 only way that can happen Jun 20 03:17:24 does its own thing Jun 20 03:17:44 thanks! Jun 20 03:17:53 well thanks for sticking it out Napalm Jun 20 03:18:07 issue since June 2 Jun 20 03:18:14 "Search for posts on any topic you would like, you are able to [...]" is a comma splice. Jun 20 03:18:22 but went back and forth a lot with it and then later saw that link I showed you by mistake Jun 20 03:19:05 And "helps your strengthen" has a typo. Jun 20 03:19:15 TacticalJoke: yeah that part is awkward but i was trying not to 'and' to much Jun 20 03:21:23 You can use a colon, dash, or semicolon there. This is the colon version: "Search for posts on any topic you would like: you can read and share your thoughts with thousands around the world" Jun 20 03:22:57 A comma is a mistake, but for some reason it's a common mistake nowadays. Jun 20 03:23:28 The comma in the previous sentence isn't so bad as it's a list of two items. Jun 20 03:23:41 well good thing im still drafting the description Jun 20 03:24:13 my favorite thing is the semi colon list of items Jun 20 03:24:19 Yeah, I like that. Jun 20 03:35:18 Q: "Experienced developers -- what is your biggest regret?" A: "use version control" Jun 20 03:35:19 Wat. Jun 20 03:35:39 I wish I could test my glassware without having to put on the physical hardware Jun 20 03:35:56 TacticalJoke: that reddit comment confused me as well Jun 20 03:36:23 I mean, I get it, but who is srsly not using version control. Jun 20 03:51:28 well, gn! Jun 20 04:28:41 yeah thats funny, if you aren't using VC you aren't experienced :P Jun 20 04:36:44 interesting, DxO came out with a camera, 1" sensor, but attaches to iphone Jun 20 04:37:40 ugh $600 Jun 20 04:48:59 * wakelock is happily not using version control Jun 20 04:49:59 I'm only ever using github for ease of publishing/download, if I even want it public Jun 20 04:52:06 * g00s guessing wakelock is also happily not backing up his system :D Jun 20 04:52:44 actually I am, all my systems, in a few copies Jun 20 04:52:46 wakelock: bintray would be better for that, but you should really, really look into source control Jun 20 04:52:58 did a full backup just a week ago Jun 20 04:53:06 It's not about backup Jun 20 04:53:19 if anything, VC lets me 'not be blocked'. i can put down something if stalled and work on something else Jun 20 04:53:29 CedricBeust, I *am* using version control at work ;) Jun 20 04:53:32 You can be one of the rare software developers who won't learn this lesson the hard way Jun 20 04:53:37 android is not my work Jun 20 04:54:12 g00s, I use rsync and my home server for that :p Jun 20 04:54:18 well, ide all some form of rudimentary history Jun 20 04:54:29 If you write code, use source control, period. Doesn't matter what kind of code it is Jun 20 04:54:43 so version control isn't absolutely necessary for the hobbiest Jun 20 04:54:52 CedricBeust, dully noted ;) Jun 20 04:55:07 hobbyist Jun 20 04:55:15 yeah, but branches are still <3 even when working solo Jun 20 04:55:36 I mostly hate branches Jun 20 04:55:52 though I'd probably like something like Etherpad for code Jun 20 04:58:26 one thing i wish though is if git could let me switch branches without stashing or half baked commits Jun 20 04:58:37 when working copy is dirty Jun 20 04:58:48 i think thats the only thing i liked about clearcase :D Jun 20 04:59:57 g00s: you can, I forget the proceedure, though. Jun 20 05:00:09 its...not intuative. probably because they consider it a "bad idea" Jun 20 05:00:19 I mean I'm just saying. TJ apparently can't even imagine successful development without VC, I say it's fully and completely possible. Jun 20 05:00:21 #git should know. Jun 20 05:00:43 Textmode yeah maybe i'll ask them sometime Jun 20 05:01:00 probably involves commit, and then resetting O.o Jun 20 05:01:20 I think its some god-forsaken set of flags, actually. Jun 20 05:01:47 in some cases and for some people, VC is just more hassle than it's worth Jun 20 05:02:05 wakelock i can't either. without VC, there is no easy way to put things down, branch, and experiment ... Jun 20 05:02:36 gah i guess you can copy your project to another location and fusge with it there Jun 20 05:03:29 just depends on what you're used to Jun 20 05:03:35 but often i ask, hmm, what happens if we go this direction. make a refactor, change, whatever - and it doesn't pan out. delete branch Jun 20 05:04:28 otoh, svn sucked enough i stopped using it (before git) Jun 20 05:04:40 tbf, thats the recommended workflow, branch and drop if it doesn't work out. Jun 20 05:04:41 i think there is a tool that could fit your workflow nicely :) Jun 20 05:04:44 I pretty much never have more than 2-3 copies of a project - stable/release, development/experimental, and maybe some intermediary Jun 20 05:05:00 g00s, easy, create a wip branch Jun 20 05:05:04 delete when done Jun 20 05:05:28 pfn yeah thats what i do. i can't imagine not being able to branch & experiment Jun 20 05:05:36 wakelock, vc never more hasslr Jun 20 05:05:58 git init and commit periodically Jun 20 05:06:01 no hassle Jun 20 05:06:48 anyone used hg before? Jun 20 05:06:59 wakelock tacticaljoke does, he likes it Jun 20 05:07:22 I thought he's just another git devotee Jun 20 05:07:26 i thought a few weeks ago was reading google & fb were migrating to it Jun 20 05:07:29 g00s: git lets you do that unless switching branch will make you lose work. Surely you don't want that Jun 20 05:08:44 Very much doubt fb would switch to hg, especially at their scale Jun 20 05:09:01 CedricBeust yeah .. maybe i just not smart enough, but seems like it auto merges dirty bits into new branch. which can result in merge conflicts, that i never wanted to deal with Jun 20 05:09:33 knowing fb it won't be hg but a heavily modified something that will have its own name Jun 20 05:09:42 if it even happens that is Jun 20 05:10:19 CedricBeust https://code.facebook.com/posts/218678814984400/scaling-mercurial-at-facebook/ Jun 20 05:11:06 from what i read google and fb are investing heavily (resources) to hg dev Jun 20 05:11:17 Well, I stand corrected. What a bizarre decision. Jun 20 05:11:48 i'm happy with git. maybe i'll try hg someday Jun 20 05:12:05 Trying to make your infrastructure scale and choosing a software written in Python instead of one written in C... Jun 20 05:12:13 i decided git because thats the most popular one, i thought if i worked on a team it would be safe bet ;) Jun 20 05:12:31 Definitely a safe choice, Mercurial has lost that war Jun 20 05:12:38 CedricBeust maybe the algorithms > language Jun 20 05:12:43 but it's like FB likes to choose hard paths just for the fun of it Jun 20 05:12:50 see their recent crazy Android optimizations Jun 20 05:13:21 Nah, git is way, way faster than hg, and it's obviously proportional to the size of your code base Jun 20 05:13:41 CedricBeust, which opts? Jun 20 05:13:54 CedricBeust how do they compare storing binary blobs ? (space efficiency) Jun 20 05:14:06 The crazy things they did by calling direct offsets in native libs, etc... Let me see if I can dig it out Jun 20 05:14:12 CedricBeust, the device year lib? Jun 20 05:14:21 CedricBeust, that's not recent Jun 20 05:14:26 i thought git was going to improve that , but it would require making a change to the otherwise elegant object model Jun 20 05:14:37 CedricBeust, that's the linear alloc workaround for 2.x Jun 20 05:14:38 No, Fresco Jun 20 05:14:46 pinning images in ashmem, ... Jun 20 05:15:05 actually that's just the latest, they have been doing others for a while, related to dex limit too Jun 20 05:17:00 well they did their own phone :) ... weren't they thinking one time of making their own OS ? Jun 20 05:17:12 probably android based of course Jun 20 05:17:17 hi Jun 20 05:17:25 can I make a question on Facebook SDK? Jun 20 05:22:08 Facebook employs some extremely intelligent people, but they seem to primarily be working to make their horde of mediocres able to build an OK product without accidentally imploding too much. which is an amazing feat, but it seems like a waste at times :| Jun 20 05:26:00 Gandalf84: you might get someone who knows, yeah :) but just ask, it might trigger someone's highlights. asking about asking pretty much never does. Jun 20 05:26:50 I’ve followed all the steps for let it work….Using a wrong key hash, when i click on the button a view is displayed saying there is a mismatch Jun 20 05:27:04 using the correct key hash, clicking on the button, nothing happen Jun 20 05:27:18 I see the animation of the loading….then it ends Jun 20 05:27:20 nothing happen Jun 20 05:27:29 IRC rule in general: you're not dealing with experts in all things X, you're dealing with 100 people who all know different bits of X. Jun 20 05:28:05 Gandalf84: for... logging in? Jun 20 05:28:14 yes Jun 20 05:28:17 Login button Jun 20 05:31:43 Gandalf84: make sure you've done everything on https://developers.facebook.com/docs/android/getting-started#login_share - individual pieces are sometimes easy to miss. Jun 20 05:32:24 checked 2 times…. Jun 20 05:32:29 what I’ve notived is Jun 20 05:32:51 if I remove the theme part….I see after the loading animation the new windows open and than suddenly close itself Jun 20 05:36:22 not sure :/ their instructions tend to be accurate, but it has changed since I've done fb integration work Jun 20 05:42:07 wtf, i just went to click on stats in the dev console ... Jun 20 05:42:12 and i get "You do not have the rights to perform the requested action." Jun 20 05:49:21 CedricBeust i found that blog on hg Jun 20 05:49:26 http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2015/03/28/notes-from-facebook%27s-developer-infrastructure-at-scale-f8-talk/ Jun 20 05:49:44 Quote from Google: "We're excited about the work Facebook is doing with Mercurial and glad to be collaborating with Facebook on Mercurial development. Jun 20 05:54:02 that seems really weirdly phrased. Jun 20 05:54:14 I/ActivityManager﹕ START u0 {act=SSO_WITH_FALLBACK cmp=com.my.myapp/com.facebook.FacebookActivity (has extras)} from uid 10127 on display 0 Jun 20 05:55:04 I/ActivityManager﹕ Displayed com.my.myapp/com.facebook.FacebookActivity: +270ms Jun 20 05:55:32 I/Timeline﹕ Timeline: Activity_windows_visible id: ActivityRecord{3575fd30 u0 com.my.myapp/com.facebook.FacebookActivity t565} time:122652316 Jun 20 06:06:52 interesting ... http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/18/report-last-year-google-secretly-acquired-agawi-a-specialist-in-streaming-native-mobile-apps Jun 20 06:07:05 not sure i quite understand how this works though Jun 20 06:07:53 'Android servers running in the cloud' .. Jun 20 06:09:04 I'm just waiting for cloud servers to run on your Android. Jun 20 06:12:23 i've always had that feeling, that whatever happens to android, chrome, the web is google's platform ... and native apps aren't the future with them Jun 20 06:12:42 a) remember Amazon's (now shuttered) service for trying apps on the web before you bought them? Jun 20 06:13:22 b) remember that Google is doing more and more scanning of apps before they get published? Jun 20 06:14:37 c) remember that ps4 (I think) allows you to play games before they're 100% downloaded? Jun 20 06:22:55 d) remember that rabbit, the one with the pancake on its head? Jun 20 06:31:02 groxx lol http://dailydoseofcute.net/wp-content/uploads/pancake-bunny1.jpg Jun 20 06:37:02 I have a question regarding the API level necessary to work with the SDK. If I choose only to install API level 22, that is Android 5.1.x, would I be able to do proper testing on Android devices that run lower APIs and platforms like Android JellyBean/4.x provided that I don't use features exclusive to the current API that I'm using being Android 5.1.x? Jun 20 06:38:36 woohoo, personal ramen control http://digg.com/video/theres-something-suspicious-about-this-ramen-making-machine Jun 20 06:39:00 whoa, digg link? Jun 20 06:39:02 grabbizle: yes Jun 20 06:39:17 desmin88: Alright thank you! Jun 20 06:39:27 Happy fathers day to the fathers here btw. Jun 20 06:59:10 How does the screen height qualifer work? Trying to get three separate xml file for height <400, >= 400 && <720, and >720 Jun 20 07:13:45 Also, say for example I have dimens-v21 and dimens-h720dp. My current device is both of these, what happens then Jun 20 07:16:22 did i read in one of your blog posts you prefix interfaces with 'I' ? Jun 20 07:16:25 CedricBeust ^^ Jun 20 08:13:00 hey anyone know how to go about this issue http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30951794/issues-with-a-tagging-system-using-autocomplete-android Jun 20 08:13:23 I am trying to make something similar to facebook;s search where they show suggestion based on letters Jun 20 08:20:21 How do I see in ADB every intent called? I did it something like a year ago but can't find it again. Jun 20 08:27:40 should be shown in the logcat if you dont have a filter Jun 20 08:32:18 START u0 {flg=0x14000000 cmp=com.google.android.music/com.android.music.activitymanagement.TopLevelActivity (has extras)} from uid 10078 on display 0 Jun 20 08:32:30 so google now hardcoded play music? Jun 20 08:34:10 If I uninstalls Play Music and Youtube it says "No music app installed" Jun 20 08:42:29 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30937370/play-song-on-default-music-player-android Jun 20 09:43:12 I have a two tabbed activity, that has two fragments associated, when I click on a tab the fragment shows the correct items with the userId being passed through, however on initial load, of the activity the tab does not have the userId passed in and therefore nothing is grabbed from the server, if I try to pass the userId through the interface on initial load I keep getting null pointer on the sharedPreferences, even if I d Jun 20 09:43:12 o create a new sharedprefrenece in the passed interface for the userId Jun 20 09:43:42 bam! I'm back Jun 20 09:43:53 what is happening? Jun 20 09:45:21 apple bankrupt Jun 20 09:45:54 dream on :) Jun 20 09:46:20 * JFlash is (nearly) bankrupt Jun 20 09:46:39 save on food by taking longer naps Jun 20 09:47:16 good advice, I have actually done that in my life a few times Jun 20 09:48:02 you can find a plenty of food in nature, this time of the year Jun 20 09:48:08 food is not so expensive if you can cook thou. but I can't Jun 20 09:48:25 -a Jun 20 09:48:31 how do i get link for review when i code my apk? Jun 20 09:48:32 hi Jun 20 09:48:33 then eat raw food Jun 20 09:48:40 sushi Jun 20 09:48:58 I live in one of the 5 largest cities in the world. so there's no much nature around me right now Jun 20 09:49:00 and steak tartare Jun 20 09:49:07 central park Jun 20 09:49:50 ah, rio Jun 20 09:49:59 ocean. fish Jun 20 09:50:00 Sao Paulo, actually Jun 20 09:50:02 ok Jun 20 09:50:18 still, ocean, fish Jun 20 09:50:53 JFlash, our U21 guys just beat your guys Jun 20 09:50:58 we are the world champions Jun 20 09:51:16 http://www.espnfc.com/u-20-world-cup/match/421190/brazil-u20-serbia-u20/report Jun 20 09:51:26 congratz, i dont follow sports thou. which sport is that? Jun 20 09:51:39 football Jun 20 09:51:46 only the greatest sport in brazil Jun 20 09:51:51 some call it: soccer Jun 20 09:51:53 i'm prolly the only brazilian who doesnt follow football. Jun 20 09:51:56 heh Jun 20 09:52:06 this is guys 20yo or younger Jun 20 09:52:17 i see Jun 20 09:52:22 if only their older counterparts played that way Jun 20 09:52:43 yeah serbians are good, I been told Jun 20 09:52:51 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30952620/nullpointer-exception-on-tabs-in-activity this is the code and issue and error Jun 20 09:53:30 Sculptor, do you android for a living? Jun 20 09:53:39 dev* Jun 20 09:53:39 JFlash, pele has chosen to play his last game vs yugoslavia Jun 20 09:53:42 JFlash, nah Jun 20 09:54:10 luckily, or i'd starve to death Jun 20 09:54:13 interesting, i did not know that. you seem to be a soccer buff Jun 20 09:54:24 nah, i don't like football very much Jun 20 09:54:25 http://pastebin.com/RVEqGajQ Jun 20 09:54:39 I'm starting on my first Android job on monday, so I'm very excited Jun 20 09:54:39 That is the issue I am having in terms of null pointer exception Jun 20 09:54:49 you know what comes to my mind when i hear 'brazil'? lua Jun 20 09:54:53 congrats Jun 20 09:55:44 Lonesoldier728, I'm reading it, but I'm a newbie Jun 20 09:56:26 yeah lua is nice. played with it for a few weeks earlier this year Jun 20 09:56:50 it's actually used in a few mobile frameworks Jun 20 09:57:15 it's heavily used as a scripting language in a games Jun 20 09:57:19 Corona SDK, Gideros Mobile and Love2D, to name a few Jun 20 10:00:19 ohai Jun 20 10:00:23 Lonesoldier728, but the error is on the isTest method of the SessionManager, no? Jun 20 10:01:28 JFlash, today coding jobs are easy, when you have #android-dev, google and stack overflow Jun 20 10:02:20 yes, there's a lot of info out there indeed Jun 20 10:02:38 but the amount of complexity has increased a lot, too Jun 20 10:03:22 also the fact that more ppl have access to the knowledge increases the supply, which affects market prices Jun 20 10:03:38 so it's a moving target Jun 20 10:04:53 Also the demand for Android is increasing, which affects market prices. Jun 20 10:07:40 For someone like me, who is just coming into the Android platform , the fact that I have to learn most of what has been released in the past at the same time that I have to cope with what is being released now, it's almost a unsurmountable task Jun 20 10:09:03 my new boss told me that around here it's harder to find android ppl than ios ppl Jun 20 10:09:15 is this true where you guys are? Jun 20 10:13:19 do you guys use communication libs such as EventBus and Otto? Jun 20 10:13:25 yes Jun 20 10:13:45 can they be a replacement for startActivityForResult? Jun 20 10:14:10 omg Jun 20 10:14:34 JFlash: its really simple.. if you have to do two way communication an event bus is not for you Jun 20 10:14:40 so no, you shouldnt be Jun 20 10:15:00 hmm Jun 20 10:15:16 why do you ask? what are you doing? Jun 20 10:15:27 is startActivityForResult necessarely a 2 way comm scenario? Jun 20 10:15:54 you are asking for a result Jun 20 10:16:04 not doing anything specific, trying to get a sense of what stuff I need and need not learn. Jun 20 10:16:21 O.o Jun 20 10:16:44 well you need to learn everything Jun 20 10:16:48 yes you are asking for a result but you may not be passing params to the activity you are starting Jun 20 10:16:52 the real question is what order to learn it in Jun 20 10:17:53 Napalm, yes eventually but I can't do it all at once, so I need o prioritize Jun 20 10:18:38 Napalm, there are more than one way to skin a cat, so when you are sort of time, you may learn one and skip the others for a while Jun 20 10:18:52 short* on time Jun 20 10:19:46 see my problem is that, comming into the platform late... Jun 20 10:20:18 ... it's hard for me to have a picture of what is the best choice right now vs what has been the best choice in the past Jun 20 10:21:00 so it happens that you spend a lot of time learning stuff that you later found out few ppl are using just because something simpler and better came along Jun 20 10:21:33 Learn what you actually need for your project then. Jun 20 10:22:13 good point but I don't have a project yet. I'm starting on Monday Jun 20 10:22:39 this kind of stuff is useful for virtually evry project thou Jun 20 10:23:45 do you guys happen to know any open source app that I download and read thru the code? Jun 20 10:24:48 I already found out about the Series Guide which is a super awesome open source app Jun 20 10:27:54 How can I change the language of a project in Android Studio such that typo errors are not falsely detected? In Preferences, Editor, Inspections, Spelling, Typo I can only enable or disable this inspection. How can I change the language? Jun 20 10:37:08 You don't write comments in english? O.o Jun 20 10:42:12 lol how can you trust the internet these days Jun 20 10:42:52 all sites are reporting that about a dramatic episode of a parachutist saving a friend whose parachute did not open Jun 20 10:43:32 but then on youtube you can clearly see that what happen was a collision and they got entangled Jun 20 10:43:40 Mavrik: It also marks typos in class names. Jun 20 10:44:33 And if the customer is non-English it might be helpful for them to have native names? Maybe something to think about, though. Jun 20 10:46:56 barq, i disabled spell check entirely, but you have options for "process code, literals and comments". Just type "spell" in search box of settings and find that Jun 20 10:47:55 JFlash yeah but the isTest is fine the error is station that the session is null Jun 20 10:47:55 Thanks. Jun 20 10:48:23 http://pastebin.com/RVEqGajQ Anyone else have a clue why if I set session it still shows up as null Jun 20 10:49:58 how can i redraw layout after returning back to main activity from child activity? if orientation changes into child activity, main activity drawer not appers in the correct way (it seems open also if it is closed: may be it keeps position of original orientation) Jun 20 10:50:32 invalidate() and requestLayout() into resume not works Jun 20 10:50:53 barq, pretty much every project out there that didn't have strict english-language requirement I've seen had huge reasons to regret it :) Jun 20 10:50:58 Lonesoldier728, your error is in "isTest" with sharedpref, you did not show us its code Jun 20 10:51:18 Mavrik, even with english, you can get annoying typo warning Jun 20 10:51:42 that's true Jun 20 10:51:48 (we have it disabled) Jun 20 10:51:48 Lonesoldier728, too many lines, point me to the exact line there Jun 20 10:51:56 i wrote fully in english, it was so annoying i disabled entirely the thing (and it saves some cpu lol) Jun 20 10:52:31 http://pastebin.com/mVACAzhz there the is test Jun 20 10:53:29 Lonesoldier728, pref is null, you have to initialize it prior to using it Jun 20 10:54:08 how so... I am initializing it with the constructor... Jun 20 10:54:20 it seems it is skipped, maybe when context is null Jun 20 10:54:22 lol, there are 14 calls to passDataToFrament there! Jun 20 10:54:32 14 calls ??? Jun 20 10:55:30 ah ok, pastebin doubles it Jun 20 10:55:36 Lonesoldier728, debug your constructor or add some log to understand what is happening and why the initialization of pref is bypassed Jun 20 10:55:43 so actually it's more like 6 calls Jun 20 10:56:54 well I just took out the != null Jun 20 10:57:05 and apparently the context is coming back as null does that make sense Jun 20 10:57:08 that's should fail too, since context was null Jun 20 10:57:21 dammit you are only creating the pref inside an IF Jun 20 10:57:23 lol Jun 20 10:57:26 'android.content.SharedPreferences android.content.Context.getSharedPreferences(java.lang.String, int)' on a null object reference Jun 20 10:57:33 and you have no else with a trace Jun 20 10:57:36 dude Jun 20 10:58:00 sorry to say that, but you gotta work on those debugging skills :P Jun 20 10:58:18 trace = Log Jun 20 10:58:21 I remember that is why I added the != null because I kept having the context passed in as null... Jun 20 10:59:25 hi all, I have a few questions about the Android UI stack. Jun 20 10:59:36 varad, me too Jun 20 10:59:42 you're almost there Lonesoldier728, you just need to understand what is a context (there are different contexts, applicationContext, activity context, etc), when the context is valid, and when to pass it to initialize your sharedpref Jun 20 11:00:02 it's up to you now, good luck Jun 20 11:00:20 I see that there is a Canvas.cpp that's a wrapper over SkCanvas, and there is the hw accelerated android_view_GLES20Canvas.cpp. An app can decide if it wants hw acceleration with a manifest flag. Jun 20 11:00:28 JFlash: cool :) Jun 20 11:00:39 Is there a way I can force pick the GLES canvas during boot and have all my views drawn without involving skia? Specifically, I want android.ui to use GLES. Jun 20 11:00:56 I have USE_OPENGL_RENDERER defined, but UI still seems to go through SkCanvas::draw*() layer. Jun 20 11:01:31 ouch. this low level talk makes me shiver Jun 20 11:02:36 JFlash: been stuck at skia segfaulting during drawPaint(), want to see if I can avoid it entirely Jun 20 11:02:38 varad. no you cant force a view to be hardware rendered Jun 20 11:02:39 i think the most low level I can go in app development is instanciate a ViewPager. :D Jun 20 11:02:55 varad. they always have an option to go use software for backwards compatibility Jun 20 11:03:12 the real question is.. why are yo trying to do this Jun 20 11:03:19 what exactly is the problem you are tryin to solve Jun 20 11:04:06 varad, Napalm always try to get into your mind and make you see your own true soul Jun 20 11:04:49 * Napalm shrugs and says, "its just the way of things" Jun 20 11:05:48 Napalm: Skia throws http://fpaste.org/233474/14346184/ while boot. I assume it's a bad bitmap being passed around. Jun 20 11:07:34 where does bitmap creation take memory from? Jun 20 11:07:44 is it gralloced? Jun 20 11:11:15 yeah adq trying to figure it out but I am confused what I am doing wrong exactly... am I not passing getActivity() in correctly? Jun 20 11:11:52 varad: gralloc i believe is now used for graphics allocations.. but I believe they are gfx hardware backed memory mapped blocks Jun 20 11:12:12 varad: check the process memory map where the crash occured Jun 20 11:12:21 it could be an alignment issue Jun 20 11:12:45 varad: I assume you are compiling AOSP yourself? Jun 20 11:13:22 varad: still with me? Jun 20 11:13:23 Napalm: yes, I am Jun 20 11:13:29 "skia (android-4.4.4_r2) with kitkat-x86 (armv7-a-neon) on ifc6410" Jun 20 11:13:49 i am to get this right.. you have compiled kitkat-x86 and running it on armv7-neon? Jun 20 11:13:50 lol Jun 20 11:13:58 please tell me I am wrong Jun 20 11:14:15 yeah, an arm config Jun 20 11:14:51 well what makes you think code design for x86 will run on arm? Jun 20 11:15:03 libc's memset/memcpy use emit assembler code for x86 Jun 20 11:15:13 for it to run this far you must be compiling for arm Jun 20 11:15:21 but who knows what has its wires crossed Jun 20 11:15:34 yeah, I was referring to the branch 'kitkat-x86' Jun 20 11:15:47 compiled with aosp_arm-eng lunch combo :) Jun 20 11:15:50 ah, but same difference Jun 20 11:16:03 what happens if a makefile has parameters someplace to force x86 Jun 20 11:16:06 just saying Jun 20 11:16:19 well Jun 20 11:16:30 hmm, right. could be a possibility Jun 20 11:16:42 back to my point.. if your compiling this for some hardware I would assume this is a config issue Jun 20 11:17:02 this is probably the first time __memset_large_copy has been called Jun 20 11:17:55 I see. I'll check if this is the case. Jun 20 11:18:11 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30953358/null-pointer-error-on-context-when-calling-sharedpref-from-fragment Jun 20 11:18:23 Confused what I am doing wrong exactly with the context Jun 20 11:18:33 Napalm: but the same happens with using skia's portable memset() Jun 20 11:19:05 varad: that or, some native code has allocated a AndroidBitmap and has freed it and some other code is trying to use it. Jun 20 11:19:15 varad: this i doubt since I assume you know this branch works. Jun 20 11:19:51 varad: since other people have compiled this branch and have it working.. I would presume that its your config or hardware that makes the difference here and not the original code. Jun 20 11:20:41 Lonesoldier728: t c.c.modular.SessionManager.(SessionManager.java:68) < this is not your constructor Jun 20 11:20:53 Napalm: hmm, alright Jun 20 11:20:57 thanks :) Jun 20 11:21:44 ah ok, then my initialization Jun 20 11:21:46 Lonesoldier728: someplace in private variables you have something = _context.getSharedPreferences(... Jun 20 11:22:43 ok... not sure I understand Jun 20 11:22:46 getActivity returns null because the Fragment has not been attached to an Activity Jun 20 11:22:53 Remember fragment transactions are async Jun 20 11:23:21 that too Jun 20 11:23:36 ah, then how do they attach... because when switching tabs getActivity is not null anymore Jun 20 11:23:43 :| Jun 20 11:23:47 lol Jun 20 11:23:53