**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 22 02:59:59 2015 Jun 22 03:13:02 hey guys Jun 22 03:13:29 when i change the image of my image button the scaletype reverts to some other one Jun 22 03:13:51 for example firstImageButton.setImageBitmap(bitMap); changes the image, but the scale type gets all messed up Jun 22 03:14:08 before that i was setting the src to be the image tho Jun 22 03:25:32 have you tried just changing the scaletype back Jun 22 03:31:54 Why the activity is not declared in AndroidManifest.xml file? i did Jun 22 03:37:29 anyone tell why AS tells this eror? Jun 22 04:03:53 rrr_: Let me gaze into my crystal ball and find out. Jun 22 04:04:32 worked out Jun 22 05:14:22 What happened to whatitis? Jun 22 05:22:09 hey guys, was wondering how would one go about setting up an internet kill switch on Android. Is it possible? Jun 22 05:22:33 dck28: Can you be more specific? Jun 22 05:22:35 is setting up a proxy server the a good way to do that? or are there better ways to do that? Jun 22 05:23:17 so basically monitoring outgoing internet connections, and if it falls out of a preset range of IP, I disable the internet... Jun 22 05:23:37 out of range of an IP? What does that mean? Jun 22 05:24:07 Hmmm. say i would only want to connect to the internet through specific IP address, like a VPN provider or something. Jun 22 05:24:23 but if I detect that there are any leakage, I want to disallow and disable connection to the internet. Jun 22 05:25:04 dck28: Just curious how proficient you consider yourself in terms of networking? Do you know the difference between TCP and UDP? Heard of BGP, routing tables, that kind of thing? Or you just have a general idea of how networking works? Jun 22 05:27:48 that's a good question... I don't know too much about the details, but I've seen some app claims to have that ability to do such a thing, I was wondering if they can actually prevent all leakage versus false advertisment... haha Jun 22 05:28:26 i know a little about default gateways and TCP/IP vs UDP... that's about it... Jun 22 05:28:35 dck28: I figured, because what you're asking doesn't make a lot of sense (no offense) Jun 22 05:28:44 or maybe I'm just not understanding Jun 22 05:30:21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg Jun 22 05:32:21 that's fair... umm... ideally if I can setup a system wide firewall that prevents all outgoing traffic except for a pre determined IP... does that make sense? Jun 22 05:33:02 libraries to Upload to ftp server .. ? any suggestions ? Jun 22 05:38:19 My leaderboards worked unpublished so I reset my leaderboards and published the game but now in the game it says "No leaderboards for this game" Help Jun 22 06:03:12 Does anyone know how to center the tabs in the new tablayout? Jun 22 06:03:33 nevermind Jun 22 06:40:07 "How We Developed the Guillotine Menu Animation for Android" uh huh Jun 22 06:40:59 its like the skeuomorphism but for animations Jun 22 06:41:53 i'll call it skeuomation :) Jun 22 06:49:19 if I compileSdkVersion 21, minSdkVersion much lower, and I use lambdas without RetroLambda, will the app crash on old Android? Jun 22 06:50:32 jimbo1qaz: yes Jun 22 06:55:24 http://stackoverflow.com/a/22303654 android studio flags "try-with-resources" if minsdk<19. so why didn't android studio similarly flag my lambda, even though minsdkversion < 21? missing inspection? Jun 22 06:56:14 jimbo1qaz: because Lambda's are Java 8 and Android doesnt support it Jun 22 06:57:55 when I inspect->java8, it changes compilesdk to 22. so 22 does not, in reality, support java 8, and android studio's lying? Jun 22 07:00:57 libraries to Upload to ftp server .. ? any suggestions ? Jun 22 07:02:18 volley Jun 22 07:02:57 so I'll just use retrolambda, should I set it to sdk8? Jun 22 07:03:52 nvm can't Jun 22 07:04:46 jimbo1qaz: why cant you? Jun 22 07:05:28 android studio complains that sourceCompatibility() not found if I explicitly set it. Jun 22 07:05:40 if I alt-enter on a rejected lambda, it lets me do so. Jun 22 07:06:01 then the "java version" "compatibility" under "project structure" is blank Jun 22 07:06:10 no, it's 1.8 Jun 22 07:06:16 Drop this under your build.gradle under android {...} http://pastie.org/10252544 Jun 22 07:08:35 why, despite I'm using com.android.support:appcompat-v7:19.1.0 , apptheme preview is still material not holo? Jun 22 07:08:54 why do you want holo Jun 22 07:09:00 thats a really old support lib version Jun 22 07:09:24 I'm not a fan of [s]metro[/s][s]windows3.1[/s]material. Jun 22 07:09:52 is your app just for you? Jun 22 07:10:39 what is the general opinion on holo vs material? Jun 22 07:11:01 material > holo Jun 22 07:11:35 well fuck, looks like I have no choice but to use material design Jun 22 07:11:52 yup Jun 22 07:11:54 it's a very ironic name. material design is flat and unshaded, unlike real materials. Jun 22 07:11:56 my opinion is law Jun 22 07:12:00 metal is shiny, paper is uneven Jun 22 07:12:15 but material is flat, unshiny, and all surfaces have no color variation. Jun 22 07:12:20 material is supposed to have a Z axis thru elevation Jun 22 07:12:20 except for shadows Jun 22 07:12:29 holo wasnt much different Jun 22 07:12:39 the shadows are pseudo-3D, but the actual surfaces are flat and non-material. Jun 22 07:12:43 {white grey / dark grey/ holo blue} Jun 22 07:13:41 welp: Error:(1) Error retrieving parent for item: No resource found that matches the given name 'android:TextAppearance.Material.Inverse'. 102 errors Jun 22 07:13:56 let me fix it myself. Jun 22 07:14:21 Gradle sucks soooo much Jun 22 07:14:31 Ribesg: why Jun 22 07:14:39 Because everything! Jun 22 07:14:47 welp, AppCompatActivity didn't fix anything Jun 22 07:15:07 must compileSdkVersion of 21 Jun 22 07:15:23 well, it would help if they told me the problem, instead of stack-overflow Jun 22 07:15:48 Every time I (have to) use it it feels like I'm using an alpha thing Jun 22 07:15:52 Even pre-alpha Jun 22 07:15:59 specifics Jun 22 07:16:47 now it's complaining about buildTypes incompatible type. Jun 22 07:16:47 It's the slowest thing on earth Jun 22 07:16:55 can't copy the exact error because android studio won't let me. Jun 22 07:17:21 Can't wait for IntelliJ to support Maven Polyglot Jun 22 07:17:36 Maven without XML Jun 22 07:17:41 What else do you need Jun 22 07:18:12 stackoverflow: buildTypes must be last element for whatever reason, wtf why does error suddenly appear? Jun 22 07:18:15 anyway fixed Jun 22 07:19:20 nvm Jun 22 07:19:36 Unexpected random behaviour, random errors, welcome to Gradle Jun 22 07:19:55 besides occassionally poor speed i find it okay Jun 22 07:20:22 I would even prefer Google to enforce Ant Jun 22 07:20:23 http://stackoverflow.com/a/30828772 is correct Jun 22 07:21:13 lol ant Jun 22 07:21:18 ? Jun 22 07:21:29 gtg thanks Jun 22 07:21:32 the reason why google left ant was because it wasnt flexible enough Jun 22 07:21:43 At least it works Jun 22 07:21:55 so does javac *.java Jun 22 07:22:10 I should use Make Jun 22 07:22:15 but i agree, not so impressed with gradle Jun 22 07:22:23 hey thepoosh Jun 22 07:22:25 Gradle isn't shiny Jun 22 07:22:34 hi there Jun 22 07:22:34 It needs a lot of love Jun 22 07:22:41 I'm fine with gradlee Jun 22 07:22:56 Like valid error messages, and stop eating cpu like cookies Jun 22 07:23:18 nomnomnom Jun 22 07:23:30 Best thing with Gradle is the gradle daemon Jun 22 07:23:36 Which prevents you from using the clean task Jun 22 07:23:42 Gotta love Gradle Jun 22 07:24:16 prevents clean task ? Jun 22 07:24:28 Yup Jun 22 07:24:29 Fun isn't it Jun 22 07:24:52 dont follow - use daemon all the time, clean is fine Jun 22 07:25:17 Every time I try to run Gradle "clean build" from IDEA, it tells me some other process has a lock on the files to be removed Jun 22 07:25:21 Which process? Gradle. Jun 22 07:25:27 Wtf Gradle. Jun 22 07:25:46 hm, no idea Jun 22 07:25:58 Also when I exit IDEA Gradle still runs Jun 22 07:26:02 That's fun too Jun 22 07:26:46 I guess those 2 last problems are related to the fact that I use Gradle in an IDE, but still Jun 22 07:26:47 if you start another gradle outside the IDE, it might get messed up - there will be 2 daemons duking it out Jun 22 07:27:04 I'm totally not starting Gradle outside the IDE on Windows Jun 22 07:27:06 :P Jun 22 07:27:18 But yeah a build tool should work with major IDEs Jun 22 07:27:38 g00s, I think those 2 problems are linked Jun 22 07:27:52 Exit IDEA, Gradle doesn't quit, restart IDEA, new Gradle process Jun 22 07:28:06 2 Gradles -> death Jun 22 07:28:10 i have always wanted CLI and IDE to share the same daemon ... but seems at least now they can't Jun 22 07:28:38 AS starts the daemon through another API , so gradle seeing different arguments doesn't reuse the existing one ... or something like that Jun 22 07:29:09 Yeah well Jun 22 07:29:39 That build tool isn't properly supported by IDEs, isn't properly programmed (lol those error messages), feels like an alpha thing Jun 22 07:29:43 Still enforced by Google Jun 22 07:32:10 It could be glitchy because it's young Jun 22 07:32:15 But it's 8 years old >< Jun 22 07:33:37 could be glitchy because its big, complicated, and built using dynamically typed language :) Jun 22 07:33:50 oh, and then there is goofle's stuff sitting in there too Jun 22 07:36:59 why does genymotion randomly decide not to want to rotate the device Jun 22 07:37:43 desmin88: never happened to me Jun 22 07:42:24 hi, is there any benefit to using ObjectAnimator over using interpolation in the onDraw method? Jun 22 07:45:14 hey guys im looking for tutorials Jun 22 07:45:25 on using permissions to mine data Jun 22 07:45:41 permissions to mine data .. ? Jun 22 07:46:28 like for example i have an sms app and i want to be able to collect sms info from my users Jun 22 07:46:43 like collecting all their messages old and new Jun 22 07:47:01 sounds creepy Jun 22 07:47:27 since the app has permission to access their phones all their text messages Jun 22 07:47:35 what would i do? can i upload it to parse? Jun 22 07:48:20 im having trouble finding tutorials Jun 22 07:49:13 liftedbronco: are you serious? Jun 22 07:49:25 yeah Jun 22 07:49:41 why would you want to collect every users sms messages Jun 22 07:49:51 marketing.. Jun 22 07:50:00 you realize thats like Jun 22 07:50:01 wrong Jun 22 07:50:08 idk Jun 22 07:50:10 liftedbronco thats fucked up Jun 22 07:50:12 im looking for tutorials Jun 22 07:50:20 my sms app has some users Jun 22 07:50:25 no one will help you here with that Jun 22 07:50:37 also, with new permissions model, i bet many users will not allow that Jun 22 07:50:48 well, still got some time Jun 22 07:50:57 what the fuck Jun 22 07:50:58 liftedbronco: hint - the kind of collection you described is illegal in at least some countries, no matter what EULA you get people to sign, and it can be iirc a criminal offence :3 Jun 22 07:50:59 most phones are on kitkat Jun 22 07:51:49 you realize how unethical that is also Jun 22 07:52:21 i just wanna get some info on it Jun 22 07:52:21 unethical, probably illegal (and prosecuted by state prosecution!) Jun 22 07:52:33 theres precedent too Jun 22 07:52:33 doesnt mean im gonna do it :P Jun 22 07:52:37 flashlight apps have gotten sued Jun 22 07:52:41 for data collection Jun 22 07:53:02 they must have gotten alot of data or something Jun 22 07:53:15 so you just want to mine a little data Jun 22 07:53:17 nothing too big Jun 22 07:53:25 amount isnt a factor Jun 22 07:53:53 i just want a tutorial to see how it works Jun 22 07:54:01 no Jun 22 07:54:05 i already have a good understanding Jun 22 07:54:13 anyways Jun 22 07:54:24 pmsg me a tutorial if anyone has 1 Jun 22 07:54:26 whats your sms app? jw Jun 22 07:54:34 now i dont wanna post it :P Jun 22 07:54:40 you guys making me nervous Jun 22 07:54:49 i just wanna see it Jun 22 07:55:03 nvm Jun 22 07:55:14 your app will ask for permission to read user SMS when you try to do that Jun 22 07:55:20 no one will agree Jun 22 07:55:42 liftedbronco its shit like that that gives android a bad name. at least soon users will have more control over things somewhat Jun 22 07:55:56 yea I hope you go to prison Jun 22 07:56:18 Apple would simply not allow that in the store; people know that, and they feel safer in their garden Jun 22 07:56:27 no wonder, with dipshits like you Jun 22 07:56:52 whoa whoa im not gonna do it Jun 22 07:56:58 pls dont bash me :P Jun 22 07:57:15 your being bashed and rightfully so Jun 22 07:57:36 good thing that your skill won't allow you to do it :P Jun 22 08:04:38 thepoosh whats your favorite android library used in glide ? Jun 22 08:05:05 hmmmm Jun 22 08:05:08 good question Jun 22 08:05:28 what lib do you think you could not live without Jun 22 08:05:28 i like GreenDao even though I'm kinda sorry we're using it Jun 22 08:05:36 and Volley since I know it inside and out Jun 22 08:05:44 even though I'm kinda sorry we're using it Jun 22 08:05:55 ah, haven't used volley Jun 22 08:06:03 I like the way it's built Jun 22 08:06:12 not always the way it operates Jun 22 08:07:51 can someone please help me understand this function and how to call it? Jun 22 08:07:52 http://pastebin.com/mVY7ddNS Jun 22 08:07:56 thepoosh what technique / practice at glide do you think has had the greatest impact on quality ? Jun 22 08:17:33 can someone please help me understand this function and how to call it? -> http://pastebin.com/mVY7ddNS I dont know which of this runs first and why do this-> new GetCallback() ? Jun 22 08:24:55 Anyone have tips on how to implement a timed (10 minute) cache with Retrofit & RxJava? Jun 22 08:39:39 Hi, I have a problem with Gradle. I added jcenter repository and commons-lang dependency, but it doesn’t even search on jcenter. Why is that? More info: http://pastebin.com/BFKwrikF Jun 22 09:05:55 Ok, I figured it out. It required adding jcenter() to allprojects.repositories in project level gradle file. Was only in buildscript before, and wasn’t seen for some reason. Jun 22 09:07:10 I have an issue where my draw calls in a custom view that's displayed in a recycleview seem to get ignored. The elements that are displayed on screen are drawn correctly, but when scrolling down, the ones that come up aren't being drawn until... I don't know... after that every element that comes onto the screen is drawn, including those that were not drawn previously. Jun 22 09:07:22 On click listeners do work on the not drawn elements Jun 22 09:17:40 can anyone tell me how the Paint.getTextBounds() works? why are the bounds so smaller than the actual text? Jun 22 09:18:58 ashwink005, probably because you don't have all properties set on Paint properly? Jun 22 09:19:11 Might wanna look at StaticLayout though, that one is usually the better API for text rendering Jun 22 09:20:06 Mavrik: I wanted to know the usual behavior.. does it usually give the exact Rect that can completely enclose the said text? Jun 22 09:20:21 or am I doing something wrong? Jun 22 09:23:21 no idea, it calls through to a native call so I can't even tell from the source Jun 22 09:27:37 Mavrik: thanks man I'll look into staticLayout class Jun 22 09:32:59 hey guys i'm trying to edit the Spinner class file but there are massive amounts of errors. i basically need to change just one line but obviously i can't override that method Jun 22 09:33:49 hello, I got problem with retrofit / network when fetching data when got push notification (in separate thread) "Non-fatal Exception: retrofit.RetrofitError Unable to resolve host "my.domain.com": No address associated with hostname" Jun 22 09:34:33 normally it works but got like 173 reports in crashlytics. what can be the cause of it? Jun 22 09:36:28 I use synchronious network call but in async task Jun 22 09:37:00 ashwink005, I think some letters can go below the text bounds. for example "p" "y" "g" Jun 22 09:37:21 but I'm not entirely sure, and I'll leave for a bit now. Jun 22 10:03:01 Hi all. I'm using the Facebook sdk to share a selfie. It works great on my Samsung S3 but when I test it on a Samsung S4, the ShareDialog closes immediately. Any suggestions what the problem can be? Jun 22 10:08:28 'found the anser, for those who are interested: http://stackoverflow.com/a/23934564/1723525 Jun 22 10:44:23 gordon_: looks like the phone maybe losing internet connection, which you are not checking. Retrofit produces the error. I think crashlytics sends the error afterwards, when the internet is back. Jun 22 10:50:33 Anyone help me!! Jun 22 10:51:10 The getTextBounds from Paint is giving a Rect with some space on Top! how do I get the value of the extra space? Jun 22 10:56:15 ashwink005: its the distance between top and ascent Jun 22 10:57:45 Napalm: so how do I get its value if I have the TextBounds Rect? Jun 22 10:57:55 does it depend on the textSize? Jun 22 10:58:52 http://www.catch22.net/img/editor10.gif Jun 22 10:58:56 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/Paint.html#getFontMetrics(android.graphics.Paint.FontMetrics) Jun 22 10:59:47 maybe it was the leading Jun 22 10:59:55 whatever.. im sure you can work it out Jun 22 11:00:15 Na Jun 22 11:00:26 Napalm: Dude thanks a ton Jun 22 11:04:56 i have a MediaController and a videoplayer that it controls. I can manually .play() and .pause() the videoplayer, but the MediaController does not pick up on this. How do i let it know? Jun 22 11:05:43 xorgate: i assume you've called MediaController#setMediaPlayer? Jun 22 11:06:23 or do you mean te new media one Jun 22 11:09:22 'the new media one' ? Jun 22 11:10:44 the video player (ExoPlayer) is operated by the MediaController, works fine. But I want to also allow for example tapping on the vid to pause/play. Then the mediacontroller does not pick up on the new state Jun 22 11:11:17 meaning it thinks it's playing when it's paused Jun 22 11:11:17 xorgate: there are two MediaController classes in Android.. which one Jun 22 11:14:07 Napalm: aha.. android.widget.MediaController Jun 22 11:14:07 aka the old one Jun 22 11:16:08 xorgate: how are you calling .play()? Jun 22 11:19:16 xorgate: why not call MediaController.show()? when you call .play()? Jun 22 11:19:38 xorgate: looks like you can call MediaController.setMediaPlayer again and it will update the play/pause state Jun 22 11:20:19 Napalm: ok i can try that again.. seems a bit of a hack Jun 22 11:20:53 napalm, exoplayer has: player.getPlayerControl().start() Jun 22 11:41:56 Hi! I'm trying to port an iOS software to android. I know that a label is of font size 16pt but when I put the 16pt on android (or really 16/72in) the size is much larger on the physical screen Jun 22 11:42:06 Shouldn't the size be exactly the same? Jun 22 11:48:43 how does my android app know to look in activity_main.xml? Jun 22 11:48:52 WHere is the 'reference'? Jun 22 11:50:14 is it setContentView(R.layout.activity_main); Jun 22 11:50:29 I've got this vector data "M6 6h2v12H6zm3.5 6l8.5 6V6z". it is shown great on android studio preview but not the same on real device Jun 22 11:50:52 any Idea why? this is skip_prev from google icons. the skip_next works. Jun 22 11:51:30 http://i.imgur.com/SmHLQQd.png Jun 22 11:53:12 Napalm: well crikey, that worked ;) Jun 22 11:56:46 RxJava question: Anyone have an example to tie AsyncSubject to normal Observable API call. What I am trying to do is to use it as a cache. Jun 22 12:16:41 It doesnt seem to work to implement ViewPager.OnPageChangedListener on my FragmentStatePagerAdapter. Any clues? Jun 22 12:24:01 Napalm, Got the rotating caption to work btw :> Jun 22 12:29:27 nice, which method did you use? Jun 22 12:29:37 chrisaardal: ^ Jun 22 12:29:52 GestureDetectors Jun 22 12:30:27 About my last question: turns out it was a typecasting mistake I did, I figured it out. Jun 22 12:30:47 tho google should release a native RotationGestureDetector Jun 22 12:30:57 like iOS Jun 22 12:31:30 google should release a lot of things... Possibly things that work, would be even better. Jun 22 12:35:33 findViewById, how do you search for a View if you have several layers(SlidingPanel->Frame->LineairLayout->TextView Jun 22 12:40:01 gavit: Search by the unique id. Jun 22 12:40:33 gavit: Search by the id of the TextView. Jun 22 12:48:23 claint: this is what I was thinking Jun 22 12:50:39 thank you Jun 22 12:53:58 Hi all. I need some advice about something. When I'm using Fragments (all the time), I set an onClickListener on my rootview of the Fragment to have no click event on the Fragment below (stack). How do you guys do this? Jun 22 12:56:14 Any ideas how I could translate font sizes in iOS to Android? Jun 22 12:59:22 hi everyone, I'm working on an chat based app in which i'm conecting as well as logging to server for chat. Jun 22 12:59:54 How to connect and login to server by using a service Jun 22 12:59:56 Petazz_, I don't see what exactly do you think you'll gain by that O.o Jun 22 13:01:54 i want to handle the delay that is caused due to connecting and logging in from a service Jun 22 13:10:50 so, I have a series of fragments in a ViewPager. these fragments just contain one RecyclerView. I've set up the layout of the Activity to contain a CoordinatorLayout + AppBarLayout + TabLayout, such that the title bar goes away when the onscreen recyclerview scrolls. Jun 22 13:11:27 unfortunately, i'm seeing an issue where if the recyclerview does not have enough data to fill the screen (in other words, it can't be scrolled) but you try to scroll anyway, the toolbar still goes away. it's kind of weird and awkward. Jun 22 13:11:32 anyone know a way around that? Jun 22 13:16:47 Does this channel include web apps? Jun 22 13:17:18 native android Jun 22 13:17:39 KingMe, Ok, so #android for installed to homescreen web apps? Jun 22 13:17:50 Hi there, I've found two new files, a mapping.txt and a seed.txt , should I add it to my gitignore file ? Jun 22 13:17:55 android only, webapps only when they intersect. I guess installing to homescreen and persistent counts Jun 22 13:17:57 sigmabeta: but is your recyclerview inside a scrollview? Jun 22 13:18:14 ventura, no. should it be? Jun 22 13:19:40 jrtappers yea android for android and android-dev for native android development I think Jun 22 13:20:48 Ok, I will go to #android, thanks for the redirect Jun 22 13:27:05 hi everyone, i want to handle delay in service Jun 22 13:27:59 hello, I'm in a quest to find out a gesture that happens when a push notification arrives, well I'm very interested in having a push notification like the one that comes with subway surfers. That is to say, the sound and title that appears when that app receives one. I read about notifications but I only manage to have my icon appear, but no message is displayed. is there any additional... Jun 22 13:28:01 ...property I should turn on or something? please help me find out how this is called. thanks Jun 22 13:36:30 hi everyone, i want to handle delay in service Jun 22 13:41:08 livtyler, display of notifications is dependant on Android version Jun 22 13:41:15 rohit7roy, yay! Jun 22 13:41:21 We're happy for you. Jun 22 13:41:51 But if you want help (both of you), you'll actually going to have to provide more information and be more specific when asking. Jun 22 13:42:00 Mavrik: mmm, as I tell, I have this type of notifications from an app called Subways surfers and I'm using kitkat Jun 22 13:42:57 sigmabeta: have the same problem ( even in demos I've seen the same behaviour Jun 22 13:45:35 icedp, yeah it's not a showstopper, just a bit weird Jun 22 13:49:32 rohit7roy: AFAIK, there was an example of doing that delay there, check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bViOO3zPRsU Jun 22 14:05:26 how do I display a message pop up when a push notification arrives? Jun 22 14:08:39 livtyler: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/notifiers/notifications.html#Heads-up Jun 22 14:12:23 anyone know of a merge adapter for recyclerview.adapters ? Jun 22 14:14:49 is there a way for the view to get data from a model in android? Jun 22 14:15:02 I want to do something like person.name = "test" Jun 22 14:15:20 and the view which displays the person should autoupdate it's textview Jun 22 14:19:23 i am implementing a SearchView with ExpandableListView and the query demand a RESTful access Jun 22 14:19:56 how do i delay the network access until the user has stoped typing or clicked in submit? Jun 22 14:21:35 Mavrik: What do you mean? Jun 22 14:21:41 livtyler: thanks Jun 22 14:21:51 I have an app (designs) that I need to apply to Android Jun 22 14:22:07 It seems that the point size (pt) in iOS and Android is very different Jun 22 14:25:21 hello Jun 22 14:25:26 I have bluetooth questions Jun 22 14:25:59 go ahead, sir. don't ask to ask Jun 22 14:26:14 when receiving a message, is it guaranteed that the message is complete? Jun 22 14:26:29 like, are there cases that it will be trunctated into two messages? Jun 22 14:26:38 Hey guys, could you please take a look at this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30982317/parsing-xml-using-simple-xml-framework-in-java Jun 22 14:26:42 I'm having troubles with parsing some XML Jun 22 14:27:12 I'm looking at this: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth.html#ManagingAConnection Jun 22 14:27:29 and this is the specific line of concern: bytes = mmInStream.read(buffer); Jun 22 14:27:35 I've got a bit of question for people who do both Android and iOS dev - how do you go about code sharing between platforms - do you write the core of your applications in C or C++ and then just write a platform specific UI on top of it for each platform? Jun 22 14:27:50 i've discovered that it concatenates two messages sent in quick succession Jun 22 14:27:51 or do you just not bother with any code sharing? Jun 22 14:28:27 instead of splitting it. so my question is, is there a possibility that a message is split into two parts? Jun 22 14:28:46 Nizumzen: I use j2objc for the non-ui code Jun 22 14:28:53 then GWT for web Jun 22 14:29:17 paulo_, i'll speak by experience, thus not theoretically. if you're using rfcomm, bluetooth would be like a serial port, thus, it's up to you to break mark start/end of messages Jun 22 14:29:18 if you separate the logic & UI code, those tools work really well Jun 22 14:29:20 paulo_: cool I'll look into that - never heard of that before Jun 22 14:30:55 if you write "foo" then "bar", in the other side you may get the "foobar" at once Jun 22 14:30:56 <_cypha> Does anyone know where I can find a list of mobile devices and the sensors each one has? The largest the list the better. Jun 22 14:31:03 that's my experience Jun 22 14:31:26 bitkiller: hmm. I'm thinking of using start & stop bytes. This will require me reading the port byte by byte. Do you think this will slow down the transmission? Jun 22 14:31:48 It's probably around a hundred bytes per message, it's game state. Jun 22 14:31:54 Nizumzen, we have a C++ core and Djinni bindings Jun 22 14:31:58 you should define a protocol Jun 22 14:32:28 some data structure or header for each message Jun 22 14:32:50 and some byte sequence to mark end/start of message Jun 22 14:32:58 hmm ok. do you know open source implementations for that? Jun 22 14:33:26 nope Jun 22 14:34:17 i did this a lot of times in PIC assembly or C Jun 22 14:35:26 oh, you interfaced it to an android phone with bluetooth? Jun 22 14:35:45 Does anyone have experience with parsing xml? Jun 22 14:36:18 no. it was rs232...old times (10-15 years ago) Jun 22 14:37:09 paulo_: create a simple header, or use something like protocol buffers, ASN.1, etc. Jun 22 14:37:27 TLV structure is your friend Jun 22 14:38:10 do not use start/stop bytes Jun 22 14:38:38 Mavrik: yeah that is what I was thinking of doing Jun 22 14:39:09 paulo_: a sample framing protocol - 1 octet tag T, 2 octets length N, followed by N octets of data Jun 22 14:39:58 p_l: is there a chance of corruption? Jun 22 14:40:28 paulo_: use HMAC scheme over the whole messaage? Jun 22 14:42:26 that feels overkill. Jun 22 14:42:41 whether you can get corruption depends on what you're sending the message over Jun 22 14:43:06 it's bluetooth through android. I'm assuming the android OS does checksumming Jun 22 14:43:41 not sure how good BT checksums are Jun 22 14:44:01 but if you can trust them, then you might not need HMAC other than to protect from spoofing Jun 22 14:45:50 p_l: ok, i'll do framing. thanks :) Jun 22 14:52:54 hi what does it mean when a style attribute in a layout start by ? Jun 22 14:53:24 for instance style="?metaButtonBarStyle" Jun 22 14:57:22 troulouliou_dev, references theme attributes Jun 22 14:57:58 pfn, ok thanks Jun 22 15:05:33 Has anyone tried to use the material design specs for lists? Jun 22 15:07:32 48dp tile height, 16sp font, 16dp top padding, and 20dp bottom padding makes the text get cut off. Jun 22 15:07:53 then make your text marquee, or make it smaller Jun 22 15:08:14 and yes, those numbers don't seemt o add up Jun 22 15:08:27 How do you guys keep track of your notifications? Jun 22 15:08:28 But those are the numbers they give! Jun 22 15:08:49 WriterOfAlicrow, 48dp minimum tile height. Jun 22 15:08:55 48dp is the minimum touch area Jun 22 15:09:05 make it stretchable to account for possible text size changes as well Jun 22 15:09:09 it's GUIDELINE Jun 22 15:09:16 not a religious text. Jun 22 15:13:13 Wait. The design specs say the bottom padding is measured from the baseline. How do I do that? Jun 22 15:13:58 WriterOfAlicrow: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/Paint.html#getFontMetrics(android.graphics.Paint.FontMetrics) Jun 22 15:15:50 Napalm: That looks like a horrible hack. Can't it be done with xml? Jun 22 15:17:14 do what? Jun 22 15:19:01 Specify padding measuring from the baseline. Jun 22 15:22:12 WriterOfAlicrow: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/TextView.html#attr_android:includeFontPadding Jun 22 15:22:27 That's wrong. Jun 22 15:22:43 That defines if view size will take ascenders/descenders into account Jun 22 15:22:50 If you set that to false, it'll cut of letters like g Jun 22 15:22:57 then you add padding ;) Jun 22 15:23:16 you can also turn clipChildren off in the parent Jun 22 15:23:18 would i use a view flipper if i wanted to swap between two imageviews under the same activity? Jun 22 15:23:32 or would it be easier to use a toggle button and two separate activities Jun 22 15:24:28 bobbiejim1: viewflipper Jun 22 15:24:38 bobbiejim1: do you want it to flip at a time interval? Jun 22 15:25:03 bobbiejim1: or just flip when you set a new image? Jun 22 15:25:26 nah i want the user to basically be able to take photos and view them on one view, then switch to another view and take photos for a different "category" Jun 22 15:25:56 is it generally bad practise to use asynctask if it's never going to touch the UI as a worker thread Jun 22 15:26:17 basically i have a 3d building and the user can view real time images they took of that building, then i want them to be able to seamlessly switch to another view that shows the floorplans and interior images of the building Jun 22 15:26:34 so i have an outside/inside imageview Jun 22 15:26:42 bobbiejim1: then it really depends on how you want the UI to behave.. take a look at http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ViewSwitcher.html and http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ImageSwitcher.html Jun 22 15:27:13