**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 05 02:59:58 2015 Jul 05 03:58:41 All I have is a Note 4 but I need to develop for smaller screens, any suggestions? Jul 05 03:59:15 Should I just go out and buy cheap prepaid phones, and just not activate them? Jul 05 04:01:58 <__equinox> hey guys, I am currently looking for an intermediate level android developers for freelance work who can start right away Jul 05 04:02:02 <__equinox> ping me if you are interested Jul 05 04:02:25 RudyValencia maybe a Moto E or G ? Jul 05 04:02:39 OK Jul 05 04:02:54 so should I just do what I'm thinking (buy prepaid and not activate it)? Jul 05 04:04:00 but genymotion works well for just testing screen size stuff Jul 05 04:04:40 it relies on virtualbox, which doesn't work well with VMware (which I have for other things) Jul 05 04:05:50 I'm using an AMD PC to develop, which is incompatible with the Intel HAXM accelerator Jul 05 04:05:54 so I can't use an AVD Jul 05 04:17:46 RudyValencia: you in the uS? Jul 05 04:17:51 yes Jul 05 04:18:00 if you goto walmart or target, look for virgin mobile (prepaid no contract) Jul 05 04:18:12 they have one 4.1 kyrocera event, like 20-30 bucks Jul 05 04:18:21 and 4.4 lg something or other, 45 Jul 05 04:18:32 good for low end testing device against too Jul 05 04:18:45 ah Jul 05 04:19:22 are there reflash images for them in the event I mess something up? Jul 05 04:19:34 i believe the 4.4 lg one has Jul 05 04:19:38 not sure about th event Jul 05 04:28:43 anyone used Osmidroid or Mapbox sdk? Jul 05 04:30:00 also is there a way i can load the sdk into as so i can browse the source in an editor or something like that? Jul 05 04:35:14 What is the delay time of bluetooth pairing request system dialog? Jul 05 04:41:10 so what API level does the Google Maps API work in? Jul 05 04:46:25 think all you care about Jul 05 04:53:09 We should be getting a public reddit statement Monday: https://np.reddit.com/r/Blackout2015/comments/3c4x6h/leaked_conversation_from_kn0thing_and_the/cssj58v?context=1 Jul 05 04:54:34 TacticalJoke: did you ever release your app, out of interest? Jul 05 04:54:41 Not yet. Jul 05 04:55:03 there might be no reddit left by the time you do! Jul 05 04:57:42 Yeah, it'd be a shame if that happened. Jul 05 04:58:30 TacticalJoke lol why -53 points for that Jul 05 04:58:41 internet is retarded Jul 05 04:59:54 * capella soylent internet .... "It's People !!! PEOPLE !!!!" Jul 05 05:00:18 anyone got a sec to look at a piece of code i got and see if they can figure out what the problem is.. its related to sharedprefs? Jul 05 05:00:20 I'm still not sure whether the people on the Internet are real. Jul 05 05:00:57 i'm not that bright, but i have learned one thing in the past few years of mobile dev: make sure your users are educated and smart Jul 05 05:01:14 How do you make sure of that? Jul 05 05:01:23 target that audience, not the hoi polloi Jul 05 05:01:54 You won't get a lot of downloads given the size of that audience Jul 05 05:01:59 bynarie: Depends. What kinda code we talkin'? Jul 05 05:02:02 CedricBeust lucky for me i'm interested in scientific applications Jul 05 05:02:14 so all the people i deal with are researchers, etc Jul 05 05:02:17 basic java code for android Jul 05 05:02:21 TacticalJoke, Jul 05 05:02:49 Depends on what kinda Java we talkin'. Jul 05 05:03:24 bynarie: just post t include the stacktrace Jul 05 05:03:55 sorry im fairly new to android prog, how do i get a stacktrace? Jul 05 05:03:56 g00s how about adding like the test google goggles does or something? Jul 05 05:03:57 ;p Jul 05 05:04:29 bynarie: when it crashes (if it crashes) click Android tab (at the bottom) that should open up Logcat viewer ( astream of messages), find the stuff in red Jul 05 05:04:57 well.. its not crashing or failing to build.. its just not doing what i think it should be doing Jul 05 05:04:57 Yeah, I guess an app could refuse to function normally unless the user completes an IQ challenge. Jul 05 05:04:58 one sec Jul 05 05:05:10 bynarie: pastebin the code, don't ask for permission :) Jul 05 05:05:16 ok one sec Jul 05 05:06:50 Imagine the outrage if a popular app received an update whereby it refused to function unless the user proved that they were smart enough to be considered valuable. Jul 05 05:07:34 TacticalJoke lol, no of course not. you have to look for market segments Jul 05 05:09:17 problems that smart people have :) Jul 05 05:09:21 solve those Jul 05 05:09:33 wait, why wouldn't you want the most users possible again? Jul 05 05:09:39 Yeah, that's an interesting idea. I always just assume that clueless users are a fact of life. Jul 05 05:10:40 user quantity doesn't equate to quality ... nor to payment streams :p Jul 05 05:11:16 bynarie: for future reference: http://postimg.org/image/wc4rpsf0n/ Jul 05 05:11:17 for example, if you are focusing on medical. you will be dealing with a certain demographic Jul 05 05:11:36 I love banking ... they used to actually pay me XD Jul 05 05:11:39 I like the challenge of making my apps usable by as many users as possible Jul 05 05:12:01 I guess that computer users make up (as you might say) a bimodal distribution. :D There're the cluebies and the nerd overlords. Jul 05 05:12:01 http://pastebin.com/knfdtyX1 - these are the main "snippets" of code im concerned with.. the point is that when the app loads, the prefs do not seem to be getting pulled in correctly or the values are not being saved Jul 05 05:12:07 You just hope the users will rise to expecations Jul 05 05:12:13 CedricBeust: Yeah, same here. Jul 05 05:12:16 bynarie: for future reference: http://postimg.org/image/wc4rpsf0n/ Jul 05 05:12:19 lasserix, so basically just a simple logcat? also ^ Jul 05 05:12:26 thx for the link Jul 05 05:12:44 when it crashes there's a stack trace showing you what crashed and how Jul 05 05:12:46 hey guys, right now I use parse and I love it, has anyone used google app engine? how is it compared to parse? Jul 05 05:13:08 you might add a button and do something like Object o; o.hashCode(); and see what happens in logcat Jul 05 05:13:41 bynarie: you must apply or commit your edits once you are done Jul 05 05:14:00 oh nevermind Jul 05 05:14:04 =] Jul 05 05:14:11 i need to switch to glasses Jul 05 05:14:43 bynarie: you can probably switch to apply Jul 05 05:14:45 lol Jul 05 05:14:46 fyi Jul 05 05:14:49 ok Jul 05 05:15:01 but that wouldnt change the outcome of my values being saved would it? Jul 05 05:15:05 bynarie: So what is the value of `checked`? And are you sure you're reading it *after* writing it? Jul 05 05:15:32 bynarie: apply will write it to memory, writing to disk something shortly thereafter. commit forces it to write immediatly Jul 05 05:16:10 bynarie: this code snippet is useless Jul 05 05:16:37 unless this is part of one method Jul 05 05:16:54 yes, all of this is under the main method Jul 05 05:17:14 the oncreate() Jul 05 05:17:56 bynarie: well Jul 05 05:18:04 how well do you know java? Jul 05 05:18:07 == != .equals Jul 05 05:18:12 for strings, you must use .equals Jul 05 05:18:23 for equality, but why don't you put a boolean value in the shared preferences? Jul 05 05:18:46 True, but I suspect that it works in this case because of string-literal interning. Jul 05 05:18:50 really? you cant use if (string=="blah") Jul 05 05:19:29 i could use a bool, but i dont think that would change anything, unless like u said, i need to use .equals Jul 05 05:20:03 bynarie: Try `Log.d("init.d", "checked = " + checked);`. Jul 05 05:20:16 maybe thats why it keeps highlighting the == Jul 05 05:20:18 bynarie: Yeah, you should be using String.equals. Jul 05 05:20:20 ok good idea Jul 05 05:20:32 i bet thats the problem Jul 05 05:21:03 I doubt it, because string literals are interned. Jul 05 05:21:15 Though in other cases it'd definitely be problematic. Jul 05 05:21:43 bynarie: http://pastebin.com/RD19fWAP Jul 05 05:22:02 i used to do a lot of c# programming and i just assumed since the syntax is identical stuff would work the same, as far as == != etc etc Jul 05 05:23:27 so, don't assume the syntax is identical, since it isn't Jul 05 05:23:51 "close" Jul 05 05:23:58 bad assumption Jul 05 05:23:58 bynarie: http://pastebin.com/xMTMDZN2 Jul 05 05:24:01 "i just assumed since the syntax is identical" Jul 05 05:25:11 Probably the biggest gotcha for C# illumni coming to Java is the need to use String.equals over the equality operator. Jul 05 05:25:13 lasserix, thx for the heads up Jul 05 05:25:23 Alumni, rather. :D Jul 05 05:25:27 lol Jul 05 05:25:29 yea Jul 05 05:25:33 well it is just a lot easier to read that way Jul 05 05:25:48 and doesn't take > 48 dozen lines Jul 05 05:26:53 holy shit Jul 05 05:27:06 that dam .equals fixed the problem Jul 05 05:27:19 you should use boolean not string here, Jul 05 05:27:21 bynarie: http://pastebin.com/xMTMDZN2 Jul 05 05:27:38 yea i seen it Jul 05 05:27:42 im going to rewrite it Jul 05 05:28:06 lasserix, TacticalJoke, thanks for your suggestions and help Jul 05 05:28:15 Should also use SharedPreferences.Editor.apply instead of SharedPreferences.Editor.commit. Jul 05 05:28:20 no problem Jul 05 05:28:24 TacticalJoke: hehehe Jul 05 05:28:27 right Jul 05 05:28:36 I know lasserix knows. Just had to add. :D Jul 05 05:28:48 .apply does in bg and commit does instantly, correct> Jul 05 05:28:49 ? Jul 05 05:29:15 so it could possibly lag/freeze/block the app if it was a bunch of stuff? Jul 05 05:29:21 yeah Jul 05 05:29:26 that is the idea anyways Jul 05 05:30:27 I'm not sure why using String.equals fixed this. Shouldn't the interning allow `==` in this case (even though it's not a great idea, of course). Jul 05 05:32:24 At what point do you want to start using a sparsearray over a hashmap? Jul 05 05:32:41 TacticalJoke: seems that would be replying on internal/compiler behaviour rather than correct syntax Jul 05 05:32:43 (no clue??) but i assure it, it works flawlessly now.. but i am going to switch to a bool value Jul 05 05:34:09 ive been lazy for far too long. time to update my apps. 30k downloads in total almost and they stink :P Jul 05 05:34:18 lasserix " It is generally slower than a traditional HashMap, since lookups require a binary search and adds and removes require inserting and deleting entries in the array. For containers holding up to hundreds of items, the performance difference is not significant, less than 50%." Jul 05 05:34:34 well you don't use it for performance, its for memory i guess? Jul 05 05:34:52 so that is, always use unless your map has > 100s of items? or do i have that backwards Jul 05 05:35:12 Yeah, to avoid the int boxing and the MapEntry (or whatever) instantiation. Jul 05 05:35:19 Map.Entry* Jul 05 05:37:39 lasserix: I leanred more about that class from reading the code than from reading the documentation. Jul 05 05:37:40 hehe "android.util.SparseArray space time complexity properties" Jul 05 05:37:46 learned* Jul 05 05:37:48 Leeds i wonder what happens when you put a Samsung Galaxy Beam inside a Pizza Hut projector box :D Jul 05 05:38:06 g00s: pure awesomeness Jul 05 05:38:31 Leeds wonder if somebody made a disco ball app for that thing ;D Jul 05 05:38:52 TacticalJoke: ah also because the autoboxing of hashmaps, by using sprasearrays you'll avoid more gc calls Jul 05 05:38:59 Yah. Jul 05 05:39:02 hmm Jul 05 05:39:10 The autoboxing of the primitive key. Jul 05 05:39:11 i wonder if anyone has an AS plugin to convert hashmaps to sparsearrays Jul 05 05:39:11 I suspect it was a really limited promotion here - I don't recall it being local news at all Jul 05 05:41:48 wow, there is a phone with a square screen : Motorola Flipout Jul 05 05:42:44 oh that was 2010, thank goodness Jul 05 05:43:55 I had a coffee yesterday with a young lady who works for Blackberry... she was carrying both a Passport and an iPhone :) When I mentioned Venice, she said it wasn't her product, nothing to say... Jul 05 05:47:16 Leeds i wonder if their device occupies the same space as Silent Circle Jul 05 05:48:20 the only android phone that i find interesting is the blackphone Jul 05 05:48:22 you mean, while being credible to 'enterprise'? Jul 05 05:49:46 yeah, since IT already has experience using BB platform - unless they forgot :D been a few years since they were dominant Jul 05 05:51:16 their MDM stuff is still relatively well-respected, I think Jul 05 05:51:44 eh, we know - they should have made a bulletproof Android platform 3 years ago, rather than wasting time on BB10 Jul 05 05:54:04 Hi, I have a question regarding GCM Jul 05 05:54:19 when sending upstream xmpp messages to my app server using the same client Jul 05 05:54:34 the gcm token I get (in the from: of the messages), are different Jul 05 05:54:47 they all have the same prefix, (11 chars) Jul 05 05:55:02 but the rest of the tokens differ Jul 05 05:55:10 is this how it's supposed to be? Jul 05 05:56:12 these are two tokens I get from the same client: Jul 05 05:56:19 djrWhYFOLtE:APA91bHLqazSKrZGUUEPvMkIKdtWCVIxhdYILfPLeguPR_yDUrProRsCfeP3LQiFzR1o0-Ha-BUMor6pTxKuWmUr9zpE6hIZGEkDV2pcQDJSZUKH3DX91wE Jul 05 05:56:26 djrWhYFOLtE:APA91bHAROejFamp-8qwFddOKmUl_EYc_A9HdwnB8ojkUIRX-5kFCjHsnIDQIFa-kWMOdE3NpqU643nTrQnzPFcswTFgd7wBo0KnAub29EEyGP3R01njxz8', u'message_id': u'kjukkhujgbvhhooisccsgdydufgf Jul 05 05:56:58 hax Jul 05 05:57:22 is it possible that some devices are be supported by adb (android debug bridge)? Jul 05 05:57:36 are not supported** Jul 05 05:57:52 exoloastic: something is wrong with your driver or device Jul 05 05:57:54 majority no Jul 05 05:58:07 exoloastic: anything is possible, but any mainstream device must support it - it's a requirement for shipping google apps Jul 05 05:58:28 exoloastic: what device? Jul 05 05:58:59 lasserix: phone, Advan S4H (local brand) Jul 05 05:59:18 does it have google apps? Jul 05 05:59:23 you have legit drivers? Jul 05 05:59:52 Leeds: google apps? Jul 05 06:00:14 play store, youtube, maps, chrome, etc etc etc Jul 05 06:00:18 lasserix: I've installed drivers given by this phone Jul 05 06:00:46 Leeds: Yes, It has all those. Jul 05 06:01:15 exoloastic: I actually wanted to double-check with you... I asked you the other day if you got a USB debug notification when you plugged it in, and you said yes - but later you were talking about a USB connection type notification, which isn't the same thing Jul 05 06:01:19 how can i add a tablayout to this https://github.com/chrisbanes/cheesesquare/blob/master/app/src/main/res/layout/activity_detail.xml ? Jul 05 06:02:22 pick an insertion point and insert Jul 05 06:02:29 :) Jul 05 06:02:58 i wish it was that was that easy, but the tabs disappear Jul 05 06:03:33 then your insertion was malformed Jul 05 06:05:13 i tried inserting it after the collapsing layout, it wasn't malformed but it doesn't show Jul 05 06:06:26 show your inserted layout Jul 05 06:06:32 Leeds: every time my phone connected, there is a notification says "USB debugging connected", an also there is another notification which if I tap on it, it will show me "USB computer connection" to choose (1) USB storage (2) MTP (3) PTP (4) Installer CD Jul 05 06:06:36 don't remove a bunch of stuff because you think we'll steal your layout either Jul 05 06:06:48 exoloastic: ok, that's good Jul 05 06:06:52 exoloastic: did you try each of those options and see if it worked? Jul 05 06:06:55 well, blame windows then Jul 05 06:08:13 lasserix: yes, I've tried all those options, still adb won't work Jul 05 06:08:41 well as leeds said, blame windoze Jul 05 06:10:36 Hi. Anyone here has experience with NfcAdapter? Jul 05 06:11:57 exoloastic, you haven't installed adb drivers, so of course it wont worj Jul 05 06:12:11 maybe I should reinstall my windows (+app +driver etc) which would take very long time to do it. Jul 05 06:12:33 did u turn usb debugging on to begin with? Jul 05 06:12:39 install adb drivers or gtfo Jul 05 06:13:04 pfn: I have installed it, windows device manager has detected my phone Jul 05 06:13:16 no it hasn't Jul 05 06:13:19 but did u turn usb debugging on Jul 05 06:13:32 bynarie: yes i did turn it on Jul 05 06:13:34 screenshot to prove it or gtfo Jul 05 06:13:50 pfn: screenshot of device manager? Jul 05 06:13:54 yes Jul 05 06:13:56 u sure u got the right drivers installed Jul 05 06:13:58 ok Jul 05 06:14:14 got on a linux box and see if it works Jul 05 06:14:28 *get Jul 05 06:17:34 http://pastebin.com/jeFZFSCi Jul 05 06:18:08 pfn: here isits screenshot http://i.imgur.com/IRaMsim.png Jul 05 06:18:40 exoloastic, then adb kill-server and then adb devices Jul 05 06:18:58 bynarie: I've tried many drivers, including driver given by this phone Jul 05 06:19:40 pfn: I've killed adb before Jul 05 06:20:00 so, humor me Jul 05 06:20:39 pfn: the list is always empty Jul 05 06:20:51 exoloastic, perhaps try revoking all usb permissions, unplug and replug and do adb devices Jul 05 06:21:05 then something else is capturing the device, like a. VirtualBox vm Jul 05 06:21:48 hmm... did/do you get the adb permission dialog on the phone? Jul 05 06:23:29 bynarie: I've tried unplug & replug too. I also have tried to use USBDeview (tool for removing all usb driver installed) Jul 05 06:24:05 have u verified adbd is running on your phone? Jul 05 06:24:20 pfn: I have not tried via virtualbox, perhaps should try it too before reinstall my windows. Jul 05 06:24:47 no dont do that Jul 05 06:25:03 Leeds: no, I did not get adb permission dialog on the phone Jul 05 06:25:37 exoloastic, do u have a terminal installed on your phone? goto terminal and type ps adbd Jul 05 06:25:47 bynarie: how do I verify adbd running on my phone? Jul 05 06:26:01 ^ Jul 05 06:26:10 doesnt sound like adbd is running Jul 05 06:27:31 bynarie: i dont have terminal installed on my phone Jul 05 06:28:17 adb devices shows no devices? Jul 05 06:28:36 canvs2321:yes, no devices Jul 05 06:28:43 you have to atleast accept the rsa notification on device Jul 05 06:28:47 exoloastic, install terminal Jul 05 06:28:48 lasserix this is the layout http://pastebin.com/jeFZFSCi Jul 05 06:28:52 do you get a prompt at all on your device? Jul 05 06:29:36 exoloastic, and do the "ps adbd" - u need to start off with the basics first.. is ADBD even installed Jul 05 06:30:10 bynarie: what is its name? im going to seach it on playstore Jul 05 06:30:52 canvs2321:a prompt? im sorry i dont understand. my first language is not english. Jul 05 06:30:59 get the terminal emulator by jack palevich Jul 05 06:31:20 I normally recommend JuiceSSH nowadays Jul 05 06:31:37 bynarie: should my phone be rooted first? Jul 05 06:31:44 no it doesnt matter Jul 05 06:31:44 exoloastic, since jellybean or kitkat your have to allow and accept the usb connection from a pc for it to do/allow adb Jul 05 06:32:16 oh your tab needs to go into the toolbar area Jul 05 06:32:21 canvs2321, weve been thru all this already.. it seem as he dont even have adbd on the device Jul 05 06:33:43 canvs2321: usb connection is fine Jul 05 06:34:59 i forgot to say that my phone is not rooted. Jul 05 06:35:27 are u going to get this terminal or not Jul 05 06:36:18 exoloastic still trying to get adb devices working on chinese phone ?!? Jul 05 06:36:25 bynarie: yes, im searching it. internet connection is a bit slow here Jul 05 06:36:29 ok Jul 05 06:37:23 joroci: http://blog.stylingandroid.com/design-library-part-3/ Jul 05 06:37:40 bynarie: ok, now its installed already Jul 05 06:37:50 capella: yes :) Jul 05 06:38:12 run ps adbd Jul 05 06:38:17 and tell me the output Jul 05 06:40:43 * capella watches http://i.imgur.com/TEqv0.gif Jul 05 06:40:48 sometimes I wonder if exoloastic is passing stuff onto someone else, maybe someone who doesn't speak English, hence the slow response Jul 05 06:41:12 bynarie: i'll screenshoot it Jul 05 06:41:17 Hello o/. How do you edit an instance variable with a button click without it telling you that you can't edit any variable from an inner class? Jul 05 06:41:21 ok Jul 05 06:41:28 from within an inner class Jul 05 06:41:29 * Jul 05 06:41:38 joroci: did you see that link? you had your tab layout in wrong place Jul 05 06:42:05 Leeds: no, I only chat here. Jul 05 06:44:10 lasserix: saw it now, the link doesn't contain an image with parallax Jul 05 06:44:50 Lorenz9: I think you want a field, not a local variable. Jul 05 06:45:21 bynarie:here is its screenshoot: http://i.imgur.com/iAQUJJB.png Jul 05 06:46:17 ok, so u do have adbd running and on yuor device Jul 05 06:46:26 TacticalJoke, you mean like encapsulating the variables into a class? Jul 05 06:46:30 capella interesting , seems moz full ahead with webassembly (reading their gaming blog) Jul 05 06:46:46 they probably realize FFOS needs good games too :) Jul 05 06:46:54 https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/07/02/mozilla-games-technology-roadmap/ Jul 05 06:47:30 bynarie: maybe I should try to reinstall my windows Jul 05 06:48:05 Declaring it at the class level, yeah. A field is a (class) member variable. Jul 05 06:48:18 i would recommend trying a liveusb of linux and see if it works on that Jul 05 06:49:07 I'm probably making a fool of myself but anyways: but it is instanced, it all happens inside one function in Main.java Jul 05 06:49:34 It all happens inside an OnActivityResult Jul 05 06:49:50 onActivityResult* Jul 05 06:50:06 Oh, sorry, I misread. Hmm, is it a static nested class? Jul 05 06:50:19 If not, I guess you simply have to fully qualify: OuterClass.variable = whatever; Jul 05 06:50:26 Leeds: I'm sorry for slow my response, first because English is not my first language (need more time think), and also I'm still newbie in Android world (need more time operate it) Jul 05 06:50:35 g00s: yah heavy firepower behind it, not just moz http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-team-up-to-launch-webassembly-a-new-binary-format-for-the-web Jul 05 06:50:44 joroci: read the article Jul 05 06:50:44 Oops, `Outerclass.this.variable`. Jul 05 06:50:56 C* Jul 05 06:51:11 Lorenz9: It's probably easier to post the code. Jul 05 06:51:14 capella i'm reading we should see tangible results 1-2 years from now though Jul 05 06:51:27 Soon! Jul 05 06:51:50 bynarie: ok, I'll try to use ubuntu first, its being downloaded Jul 05 06:52:13 exoloastic, that would be a good first choice.. are you familiar with linux? Jul 05 06:53:21 bynarie: yes, i used to use it in my computer Jul 05 06:53:52 ok' Jul 05 06:54:21 O-okay but don't laugh :D It happens in line 33 https://gist.github.com/LoreReut/4593419a7e021fe621dc TacticalJoke Jul 05 06:55:25 Line 33 shows `@Override`. Jul 05 06:55:44 sorry I meant starting at line 33 Jul 05 06:56:02 it's 38 Jul 05 06:56:51 it's monsterName & monsterMaxHP the variables that I'm trying to get here Jul 05 06:57:21 I guess it's because they're not `final`. Jul 05 06:58:17 I can't remember right now what made me not make them final Jul 05 06:58:29 but if that's it I'm gonna kick myself in the face, be right back Jul 05 07:00:03 exoloastic, sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot - should get u what u need Jul 05 07:00:10 in linux Jul 05 07:04:17 bynarie: ok noted. thanks. Jul 05 07:07:16 I'll try ubuntu tomorrow, I only have unlimited internet at night Jul 05 07:07:48 hi Jul 05 07:08:08 I want to change the dim setting in an android project is there a way? Jul 05 07:08:51 Dim setting? Jul 05 07:09:14 \o/ No errors! God damnit Tactical, thanks for uncovering my stupidity, sometimes we can't see a problem when it's right in front of our nose Jul 05 07:10:08 Lorenz9: On a side note, consider the "extract method" refactoring: . The code you posted was practically begging for methods to be extract, IMO. :D Jul 05 07:10:27 TacticalJoke: yes i want to control the brightness from script Jul 05 07:11:51 Thanks for the protip, will do Jul 05 07:12:02 Happy July 4th! soo excited for a new year. whats everyones resolution? Jul 05 07:13:27 drink moar beer? Jul 05 07:13:38 new year starts July 4 ? Jul 05 07:13:55 if you drink moar beer ;) Jul 05 07:14:50 markfknight: https://www.google.com/search?q=android+screen+brightness+site:stackoverflow.com Jul 05 07:14:52 so, g00s, yah, getting involved w/webasm now is like from the start ... after two years we'd be gods Jul 05 07:16:03 I like that nick, markmarkmark, same sound my stupid dog makes Jul 05 07:17:49 TacticalJoke: Didn't know the "site:" trick. Wow, so simple yet so wonderful. :) Jul 05 07:25:58 May I have opinions on http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28606789/AppOnDevice.png ? it's the UI for a prescription savings program app I'm developing Jul 05 07:27:08 "my" lord, it says "my" a lot Jul 05 07:27:18 RudyValencia looks like some Android 2 app Jul 05 07:27:23 lasserix i'm not sure you understand my problem, i'm trying to have a collapsing toolbar layout with parllax image and tablayout Jul 05 07:28:06 what can I do to make it better? :) Jul 05 07:28:56 should I replace the icons with flat ones? Jul 05 07:29:07 perhaps from fontawesome? Jul 05 07:30:47 the 'dashboard' pattern is considered to be pretty old-fashioned Jul 05 07:31:28 more recent recommendations are to launch straight into the most commonly-used section of the app, and use a menu or something similar to let the user navigate elsewhere Jul 05 07:31:47 I could do something like USAA does with their app Jul 05 07:32:01 the first time you launch it the side menu opens allowing you to select a section Jul 05 07:32:08 also, cartoony icons are pretty unpopular Jul 05 07:32:23 you can change a setting on it to open in a specific section every time, after you log in Jul 05 07:33:10 Leeds: where can I get better icons that I can scale as needed? Jul 05 07:34:10 https://www.google.com/design/icons/ Is usually a good start Jul 05 07:34:28 you should get rid of that dashboard completely though Jul 05 07:34:41 yeah that 6 pack is old stuff Jul 05 07:34:58 I am Jul 05 07:35:12 it was pretty common, I guess 3 years ago or so Jul 05 07:35:18 I should also redesign the app's logo Jul 05 07:36:27 are you a designer? Jul 05 07:36:41 Sorta but I'm not all that great Jul 05 07:38:38 I'm working with a pharmacy savings program that's trying to get back in the game and they want a nice Android app Jul 05 07:39:40 RudyValencia: you can dump the side drawer completly, just make Drug Pricing My Rx Cards My Profile three tabs Jul 05 07:39:46 they might want to consider paying a not not all that great designer... Jul 05 07:39:50 put contact my savings and settings inside my profile Jul 05 07:40:16 have it launch into my rx cards first each time Jul 05 07:40:40 we want users to find their drug prices without having to log in Jul 05 07:41:21 the program is for people who can barely afford the medicine at full price Jul 05 07:41:42 every medicine i've tried to look up on one of those programs was full price anyhow :( Jul 05 07:42:34 this organization is actually the originator of the savings program concept Jul 05 07:42:53 i had a PS Card at one time Jul 05 07:43:01 RudyValencia: they can Jul 05 07:43:02 i think thats what it was called. never got used Jul 05 07:43:06 they don't need to log in Jul 05 07:43:24 but if it goes into 'my cards' how are they going to be able to view the pricing info? Jul 05 07:43:26 just put three tabs at the top, and collapse settings, savings and contact into user Jul 05 07:43:34 no Jul 05 07:43:35 three tabs Jul 05 07:43:38 RudyValencia why would anyone have more than one card ? Jul 05 07:43:48 My Rx Cards / Drug Pricing / User Profile Jul 05 07:43:52 family members maybe? Jul 05 07:44:09 user profile can have my savings / settings and settings can have info / contact us Jul 05 07:44:25 oh, it asks you to log in first, but if you touch 'drug pricing' it lets you search? Jul 05 07:44:28 since My Rx Cards and Drug Pricing will ultimatly be used the most Jul 05 07:44:44 or you can do My Rx Cards and Drug Pricing, then make a user icon and put it the action bar Jul 05 07:44:58 good idea Jul 05 07:44:59 you can make settings a seperate icon (overflow or not) with contact us in the settings Jul 05 07:45:11 I'll see what I can do with that Jul 05 07:45:13 since the primary are my rx cards and drug prciving, it's easy Jul 05 07:45:50 as far as the logo... what should I do? Jul 05 07:46:24 just the outline in black/dark-grey on the white background perhaps? Jul 05 07:46:27 what do you mean? Jul 05 07:46:46 should I make the mortar/pestle outline-only, like the Google icons? Jul 05 07:46:54 probably Jul 05 07:47:12 if you get a decent icon you can perhaps make a collapsying toolbar and put it in their Jul 05 07:48:25 does anyone what i need to add to the manifest to disable tablets from downloading? Jul 05 07:52:31 I think it's this: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens-distribution.html#FilteringHandsetApps Jul 05 07:52:47 But AFAIK by default, if you don't show a tablet-size screenshot, it'll show "Designed for phones" to tablet users. Jul 05 07:54:08 AFAIR* Jul 05 07:54:33 thanks Jul 05 08:27:45 test Jul 05 08:28:37 BOOOM Jul 05 08:34:36 anybody know how to get around this? 07-05 08:53:51.167: I/Unity(7498): AndroidJavaException: android.view.ViewRootImpl$CalledFromWrongThreadException: Only the original thread that created a view hierarchy can touch its views. Jul 05 08:35:42 Anybody familiar with working on the Canvas Jul 05 08:38:20 Is it possible to, on android, create and save a bitmap image which is larger than the screen size using canvas or OpenGL ES? Jul 05 08:39:49 is it possible to call an activity from the Application class? Jul 05 08:40:09 scriptal: why? Jul 05 08:40:47