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Nov 07 03:37:03 <dragorn> freakyfidlers, it cannot, not directly.  On some platforms (samsung) it can be used to gain system.
Nov 07 03:38:12 <freakyfidlers> i see too bad, hoping i could use it to backup TA DRM keys on Xperia Z5 phone
Nov 07 03:38:30 <freakyfidlers> but looking at the permissions everything is set to root
Nov 07 03:40:19 <freakyfidlers> so a root privilege escalation exploit will be required :-(
Nov 07 03:41:33 <freakyfidlers> thanks dragorn
Nov 07 04:05:35 <Ologn> Bleh...I made $700 last month on my app...now it was suspended due to a bogus DMCA email
Nov 07 04:05:58 <Ologn> If anyone is interested in my tale of woe... http://www.vartmp.com/blog/2015/11/06
Nov 07 04:08:01 <apineda> Hello
Nov 07 04:08:15 <apineda> An app I’m looking at doesnt have an Application class
Nov 07 04:08:39 <apineda> however I want to implement Parse which requires initialization in the subclassed Application
Nov 07 04:09:25 <apineda> do I introduce a new class? how does that affect the launcher activity?
Nov 07 04:12:41 <TheSchaf> Ologn: your books are still copyrighted, just not in the US but EU and international
Nov 07 04:17:49 <orbyt_> apineda: yea just create a class that extends Application, and add the name in your manifest
Nov 07 04:18:29 <TheSchaf> Ologn: agatha christie died in 1976 so the copyright will expire in 2046 in GB
Nov 07 08:51:48 <xpheres> hello, I want to compile a project that uses NDK, can someone help me? https://github.com/xpheres/android-opencv-ocr
Nov 07 08:54:38 <xpheres> can I compile it from android studio or should I do it from eclipse?
Nov 07 09:22:43 <danijoo> xpheres, cant help you compiling it but this is an AS project
Nov 07 09:32:16 <Zajt> Hi! I'm trying to fix a vertical line in java code(so not in xml since I wanna try this also) and I got this: http://pastebin.com/tDEMZHEg but right now there are two lines, one after the button and one after the EditText field. I want to remove the line after the button, how can I do that?
Nov 07 09:32:46 <Zajt> Because I commented out line 23 so it's weird that the line after the EditText appeared when I commented out that line
Nov 07 09:35:26 <devuser> hi.. i simple question. how get all fragemnt in FragmentManager
Nov 07 09:36:04 <devuser> the suppor FragmentManger has getFragments()
Nov 07 09:37:54 <LemonadeCarl_> anyone experiencing problem opening developer.android.com?
Nov 07 09:38:31 <danijoo> LemonadeCarl_, works for me
Nov 07 09:39:39 <xpheres> to ndk to eclipse should I add Android native development tools?
Nov 07 09:39:45 <xpheres> to add ndk to eclipse
Nov 07 09:39:49 <LemonadeCarl_> I'm in China so I have to go there by proxy, but I tried Hongkong/ Singapore/ USA, no one worked
Nov 07 09:40:07 <danijoo> xpheres, as I said, this is an android studio project
Nov 07 09:40:27 <xpheres> right
Nov 07 09:40:36 <xpheres> and what should I do to compile it?
Nov 07 09:40:44 <xpheres> should I open it on android studio or eclipse?
Nov 07 09:40:54 <xpheres> and how do I add NDK to eclipse?
Nov 07 09:41:20 <danijoo> xpheres, you cant open it in eclipse
Nov 07 09:41:26 <xpheres> right
Nov 07 09:41:28 <danijoo> and noone uses eclipse for android anymore
Nov 07 09:41:32 <xpheres> right
Nov 07 09:41:35 <xpheres> so
Nov 07 09:41:45 <xpheres> in android studio I can not compile it because NDK is missing
Nov 07 09:48:22 <danijoo> LemonadeCarl_, are other firewalled sites working?
Nov 07 09:48:54 <LemonadeCarl_> @danijoo, yes youtube and facebook works
Nov 07 09:49:48 <danijoo> thats strange :/ maybe the proxy is somehow blocking it? dunno..
Nov 07 09:49:53 <xpheres> Error:(9, 0) Error: NDK integration is deprecated in the current plugin.  Consider trying the new experimental plugin.  For details, see http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system/gradle-experimental.  Set "android.useDeprecatedNdk=true" in gradle.properties to continue using the current NDK integration.
Nov 07 09:52:46 <danijoo> xpheres, it tells you what to do
Nov 07 09:52:50 <xpheres> ok
Nov 07 09:52:57 <xpheres> I'm installing ndk from sdk manager
Nov 07 09:53:05 <xpheres> it says it is version 1.0
Nov 07 10:28:54 <KaylieG> what
Nov 07 10:29:03 <KaylieG> what's the best way to show icons
Nov 07 10:29:19 <KaylieG> as in, say a heart for a liking something
Nov 07 10:29:34 <KaylieG> a normal image? a vector? built in icons?
Nov 07 10:30:08 <KaylieG> are there any default drawables for stuff like heart, comment, etc?
Nov 07 10:33:19 <SimonVT> Find your icons here: https://github.com/google/material-design-icons
Nov 07 10:38:04 <danijoo> theres also a nice AS plugin for importing material design icons
Nov 07 10:38:26 <danijoo> will let you select one and automagically ads it in all sizes
Nov 07 10:38:52 <KaylieG> oh right I heeard about that, it was added in 1.3 right? or was it 1.4?
Nov 07 10:39:06 <danijoo> its been arround longer
Nov 07 10:39:11 <danijoo> its not an official thig
Nov 07 10:39:14 <danijoo> thing
Nov 07 10:43:13 <KaylieG> oh i thought you meant the image resource importer. that too lets you select an image and automatically adds multiple sizes
Nov 07 10:53:22 <Napalm> KaylieG: danijoo: there is now an offical one built into AS
Nov 07 10:53:31 <Napalm> 1.3
Nov 07 10:53:34 <Napalm> 1.4
Nov 07 10:54:27 <KaylieG> okay so the recommended way to display the instagram style heart icons is still the good old multiple drawables way then?
Nov 07 10:54:46 <Napalm> no
Nov 07 10:55:28 <Napalm> KaylieG: if you target your gradle to 2.4+ and android plugin to 1.4+ you can use VectorDrawable resources and choose them from a built in list. The resource compiler will automagically create png's for older versions of android and use vector on newer ones
Nov 07 10:58:04 <KaylieG> ah yes i just got that notification!
Nov 07 10:58:34 <Napalm> cool, well im off.. laters
Nov 07 11:39:07 <KaylieG> anyone been using the palette stuff?
Nov 07 12:15:01 <zagooda> hello people
Nov 07 12:15:41 <zagooda> I am new to app development and I have questions about authenticating to my own backend service. How do I ask questions?
Nov 07 12:16:00 <danijoo> you type them in. and then you press enter.
Nov 07 12:16:02 <TacticalJoke> lol
Nov 07 12:16:24 <TacticalJoke> I could be hallucinating, but I think you have already asked one.  :D
Nov 07 12:16:38 <danijoo> this is the instructions for google though
Nov 07 12:16:54 <sci-fic> hey, im animating recylerview's items but first item is not animated.
Nov 07 12:17:02 <zagooda> daijoo, I never understand this computer thing. It's devil's machine. But I will try
Nov 07 12:17:26 <danijoo> http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/63628685.jpg
Nov 07 12:17:53 <zagooda> lol you keep that link in your clipboard?
Nov 07 12:18:20 <danijoo> im very fast at meme-googleing
Nov 07 12:18:57 * zagooda brofists danijoo
Nov 07 12:19:46 <zagooda> so I want to add "login via twitter" functionality to my app. Actually I want to limit logins to that only
Nov 07 12:20:27 <danijoo> zagooda, twitter api allows that
Nov 07 12:20:36 <zagooda> so I get the user's credentials in the app using twitter api
Nov 07 12:20:57 <zagooda> but what is the magical secret thing I should be sending to my backend service
Nov 07 12:21:16 <zagooda> the user id? or token? or ...?
Nov 07 12:27:22 <zagooda> can can someone tell me what should (twitter user id, token, secret etc...) I store in the app, how should I store it securely and use it for identification purposes? Just give me a summary that I can use to do a further research myself please
Nov 07 12:51:25 <guardian-project> Anybody know anything about aide ide?
Nov 07 12:56:46 <danijoo> guardian-project, you should use a real development environment
Nov 07 12:57:19 <guardian-project> Switching now.
Nov 07 12:57:56 <guardian-project> Danijoo it says it has the ndk it compiles and packs apks apparently.
Nov 07 12:58:06 <guardian-project> Is gcc part of the ndk?
Nov 07 12:58:25 <danijoo> i dont work with ndk\
Nov 07 12:58:42 <guardian-project> Why not?
Nov 07 12:58:48 <danijoo> why should I?
Nov 07 12:59:43 <guardian-project> Do any amazon instances run arm compiled linux?
Nov 07 13:00:01 <Leeds> amazon instances?
Nov 07 13:00:10 <danijoo> aws?
Nov 07 13:00:17 <danijoo> i doubt
Nov 07 13:00:19 <guardian-project> It is supposed to be native danijoo.
Nov 07 13:00:41 <danijoo> what are you talking about
Nov 07 13:01:04 <guardian-project> Ndk is supposed to compile for arm.
Nov 07 13:01:14 <Zajt> When I create a new project, i don't get the actionbar at the top but I take the same version as my friend and he gets different layout from beginning. Why? My friend uses an earlier version of android studio but i don't know why i don't get the same result from beginning
Nov 07 13:01:25 <danijoo> guardian-project, no. ndk compiles for arm and x86
Nov 07 13:01:29 <danijoo> its for both
Nov 07 13:01:34 <guardian-project> What is androids directory structure to look for the compiler?
Nov 07 13:01:43 <Leeds> but what does that have to do with online bookshops?
Nov 07 13:02:31 <perlsyntax> Hey all
Nov 07 13:02:51 <guardian-project> I cam make a freenode bookshop.
Nov 07 13:03:12 <guardian-project> With all of the authors on the motd.
Nov 07 13:03:36 <danijoo> why would you need an ndk for that?
Nov 07 13:03:47 <danijoo> doesnt sound performance critical
Nov 07 13:04:40 <guardian-project> aaearon, knows that when you have crystal shift
Nov 07 13:04:58 <guardian-project> Native avoids eras
Nov 07 13:06:26 <danijoo> era? whats that?
Nov 07 13:06:56 <guardian-project> Your talking about drm.
Nov 07 13:07:07 * danijoo gives up
Nov 07 13:07:25 <guardian-project> Digital rights managment.
Nov 07 13:08:02 <guardian-project> Era is something that faded during crystal shift.
Nov 07 13:08:34 <guardian-project> So if the code fades the drm vanishes.
Nov 07 13:09:20 <danijoo> theres clearly a language barrier involved here..
Nov 07 13:09:38 <guardian-project> What language?
Nov 07 13:09:43 <danijoo> exactly
Nov 07 13:10:45 <guardian-project> Your going to have to nominate a successor then.
Nov 07 13:11:07 <danijoo> guardian-project, http://youryoure.com/
Nov 07 13:11:32 <guardian-project> It isn't mine.
Nov 07 13:11:45 <guardian-project> It is your action to take.
Nov 07 13:11:52 <canvs2321-> shush
Nov 07 13:12:00 <guardian-project> Keeps you from being are.
Nov 07 13:12:08 <danijoo> time to stop answering i guess... I feel like talking to a robot
Nov 07 13:16:21 <guardian-project> Yes exactly danijoo  so your successor is?
Nov 07 13:17:53 <guardian-project> Danijoo sure you want to give up?
Nov 07 13:18:06 <guardian-project> Love never quits.
Nov 07 13:19:03 <guardian-project> Apparently standard english is dark basic.
Nov 07 13:20:01 <guardian-project> So you nominate a successor or become the darkness lovers of Jn 3:16.
Nov 07 13:20:57 <guardian-project> Already condemned.
Nov 07 13:21:29 <guardian-project> I invite you to never give up.
Nov 07 13:21:47 <guardian-project> If you quit you're a quitter.
Nov 07 13:25:07 <guardian-project> Your is possessive. Do you reject the gift I give you to possess by quitting?
Nov 07 13:27:05 <guardian-project> Agape is.
Nov 07 13:52:19 <guardian-project> Danijoo what do you mean by real development environment anyway?
Nov 07 13:56:06 <nebiros> morning
Nov 07 14:52:31 <donguston> Is there a way to connect to the android emulator console and set its location when using android studio?
Nov 07 14:53:21 <donguston> Tried connecting to 5554 and getting cnnection refused :/
Nov 07 14:53:56 <donguston> List of devices attached
Nov 07 14:53:56 <donguston> emulator-5554   device
Nov 07 15:08:06 <sci-fic> guys this is my first time using broadcasts, an onReceive is not invoked.What am i doing wrong ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13147981/
Nov 07 15:08:30 <snapfractalpop> anyone here using SensorManager.TYPE_ROTATION_VECTOR ?
Nov 07 15:12:53 <snapfractalpop> sci-fic: maybe you could try without the filter?
Nov 07 15:13:02 <snapfractalpop> temporarily?
Nov 07 15:13:21 <snapfractalpop> I don't have much experience with broadcasts, but my first thought is to just get something working..
Nov 07 15:15:29 <pfn> local broadcast manager, who even uses that
Nov 07 15:20:18 <sci-fic> snapfractalpop: i've found it. i had to add same action and category -.-
Nov 07 15:20:53 <snapfractalpop> sci-fic: nice
Nov 07 15:21:47 <snapfractalpop> now, if only I can figure out why my rotation vector gets twitchy when the top of my phone crosses due south
Nov 07 15:42:19 <ldiamond> Can the /system partition just be resized with fdisk?
Nov 07 15:42:31 <canvs2321-> huh what
Nov 07 15:43:08 <ldiamond> My phone has a ~500 mb system partition
Nov 07 15:43:15 <ldiamond> I want to resize it to 1GB
Nov 07 15:43:26 <canvs2321-> goodluck, this isn't the channel for that
Nov 07 15:43:27 <shmooz> ldiamond: not without losing the data
Nov 07 15:43:37 <ldiamond> shmooz: that's ok
Nov 07 15:43:53 <ldiamond> canvs2321-: how is that not a channel for that?
Nov 07 15:44:02 <canvs2321-> that proves it
Nov 07 15:44:16 <ldiamond> No it doesn't. This is exactly a channel for that.
Nov 07 15:44:28 <canvs2321-> just because "android" is in the name doesn't make it the right place
Nov 07 15:44:33 <canvs2321-> this is for app dev
Nov 07 15:44:35 <canvs2321-> show your code
Nov 07 15:44:42 <ldiamond> No it's not for app dev
Nov 07 15:44:44 <ldiamond> it's for Android dev
Nov 07 15:44:50 <ldiamond> Includes OS dev.
Nov 07 15:44:50 <canvs2321-> android app dev
Nov 07 15:44:53 <canvs2321-> false
Nov 07 15:44:56 <canvs2321-> go away
Nov 07 15:45:07 <shmooz> ldiamond: it is app only dev here
Nov 07 15:54:55 <dersand> What should i write to access the java files in packageName from mainactivity? http://i.imgur.com/HGtRpwM.png
Nov 07 15:55:30 <canvs2321-> make it make sense
Nov 07 15:56:34 <dersand> I'm writing code inside mainactivity.java. I'm trying to use a class that is defined in assets/packageMain, Happening.java.
Nov 07 15:56:48 <dersand> packageName.Happening doesn't do anything
Nov 07 15:57:06 <canvs2321-> sounds like a mess
Nov 07 15:57:39 <canvs2321-> you can't put code in assets and expect it to execute
Nov 07 15:57:39 <yawkat> dersand: you cant.
Nov 07 15:57:41 <yawkat> ^
Nov 07 15:57:50 <yawkat> code in assets and res is not compiled.
Nov 07 15:57:52 <dersand> where am i supposed to put the code?
Nov 07 15:57:57 <yawkat> src/main/java
Nov 07 15:58:43 <dersand> i thinks it's there because i created a new package, so the lesson her is don't use packages?
Nov 07 15:58:48 <dersand> here*
Nov 07 15:58:50 <yawkat> what?
Nov 07 15:58:53 <yawkat> no.
Nov 07 15:59:08 <yawkat> you just put the package into the wrong folder.
Nov 07 15:59:19 <AndroidNewb> Hi
Nov 07 15:59:20 <AndroidNewb> Hi all
Nov 07 15:59:23 <yawkat> java code does not belong in res, unless you want to ship java files for some reason.
Nov 07 15:59:48 <dersand> allright, roger
Nov 07 16:01:29 <dersand> is it a good practice to put packes inside the com.example.applicationame-package?
Nov 07 16:01:39 <yawkat> yes.
Nov 07 16:02:15 <yawkat> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/package/namingpkgs.html
Nov 07 16:04:33 <snapfractalpop> Ok.. I think I've determined when this ROTATION_VECTOR "glitch?" happens..
Nov 07 16:04:35 <AndroidNewb> anyone here want to be a team mate in making apps?
Nov 07 16:05:06 <snapfractalpop> when the top of my phone (in portrait) crosses due south
Nov 07 16:05:39 <snapfractalpop> but the odd thing is, I'm using a rotationMatrix, and the -180 to 180 jump shouldn't matter..
Nov 07 16:06:01 <snapfractalpop> especially, since the sensor fusion is supposed to be using quaternions
Nov 07 16:06:14 <snapfractalpop> so.. I'm confused .. why this jump
Nov 07 16:06:21 <snapfractalpop> or "twitch"
Nov 07 16:06:28 <snapfractalpop> anyone have experience with this?
Nov 07 16:08:35 <canvs2321-> snapfractalpop that seems a pretty specific issue, has googling not produced similiar results with answers?
Nov 07 16:08:37 <TacticalJoke> This is cool.  Connected my new Moto E to my computer, and USB debugging works instantly.  :D
Nov 07 16:08:46 <canvs2321-> hax
Nov 07 16:09:45 <snapfractalpop> canvs2321-: I can't seem to find a specific answer.. the odd thing is, Sensor.TYPE_ROTATION_VECTOR works so beautifully well
Nov 07 16:09:50 <snapfractalpop> with this one exception
Nov 07 16:10:22 <canvs2321-> could be a bug, have you filed one, or checked for others?
Nov 07 16:10:32 <canvs2321-> it is a very specific issue
Nov 07 16:11:01 <snapfractalpop> canvs2321-: I could / may do just that
Nov 07 16:11:13 <canvs2321-> you'll have to if you are stuck
Nov 07 16:11:14 <snapfractalpop> first I want to rule out if I'm doing something stupid, which is sometimes the case
Nov 07 16:11:44 <snapfractalpop> canvs2321-: do you know how I can search issues on that sensor?
Nov 07 16:11:47 <canvs2321-> just google ROTATION_VECTOR errors
Nov 07 16:11:52 <canvs2321-> just use precise keywords
Nov 07 16:12:24 <canvs2321-> search using items you've dialed down and use
Nov 07 16:21:50 <snapfractalpop> canvs2321-: hm.. still can't seem to find any issues on this, but I'm not confident I'm searching all the right places
Nov 07 16:22:03 <snapfractalpop> I wonder if there is a place to specifically search aosp issues?
Nov 07 16:22:41 <canvs2321-> if can't find similar issue, then post a detailed bug report
Nov 07 16:22:45 <canvs2321-> it could be a bug
Nov 07 16:23:18 <snapfractalpop> canvs2321-: ok, I think I will do that
Nov 07 16:23:37 <snapfractalpop> canvs2321-: can you point me to the correct place to post a bug report?
Nov 07 16:23:59 <canvs2321-> i don't know the link off hand, but there are places to post bugs on aosp
Nov 07 16:24:09 <canvs2321-> i can google if you are unable
Nov 07 16:24:32 <Leeds> b.android.com
Nov 07 16:24:58 <canvs2321-> or that :)
Nov 07 16:25:22 <snapfractalpop> awesome, thanks!
Nov 07 16:26:34 <pfn> I should ask in Java, but given a primitive type wrapper object is there a way to determine the default uninitialized value of the primitive type?
Nov 07 16:27:12 <canvs2321-> can use the java docs about default values based on scope
Nov 07 16:27:14 <Leeds> wow, it's currently flooded with porn spam :)
Nov 07 16:28:55 <donguston> Any good books on android development or the design of the backend of apps?
Nov 07 16:29:07 <canvs2321-> design of backend?
Nov 07 16:29:32 <donguston> like OO design but relating to specificcaly to android
Nov 07 16:29:56 <canvs2321-> OO is java, learn java
Nov 07 16:30:02 <Leeds> ooh, design
Nov 07 16:34:37 <pfn> canvs2321-, don't want a document based approach, want programmatic
Nov 07 16:36:19 <pfn> guava has a defaults class. that cans the documents, yuck
Nov 07 16:36:38 <pfn> I guess I just have to do something similar
Nov 07 16:42:25 <snapfractalpop> thanks all
Nov 07 16:48:43 <donguston> canvs2321-, I work as a C# dev
Nov 07 16:48:52 <donguston> well was PHP and then switched to C#
Nov 07 16:49:37 <pfn> well, if you're strong with c#, moving to android us easy
Nov 07 16:51:29 <SimonVT> The biggest difference will be the naming convention
Nov 07 16:52:23 <gordon_> you can always use xamarin ;)
Nov 07 16:57:32 <danijoo> but you should feel bad while doing it :p
Nov 07 17:25:46 <DadFoundMy> is xamarin any good?
Nov 07 17:25:56 <DadFoundMy> Does it have any marketshare?
Nov 07 17:26:11 <DadFoundMy> i was really shocked to see Parse have a specific sdk for it
Nov 07 17:31:11 <pfn> only reason to use xamarin is if you absolutely must use c#
Nov 07 17:31:19 <pfn> otherwise it's pointless
Nov 07 17:32:20 <aviran> Hello, when I upgrade play services in build.gradle from 7.3.0 to 8.3.0 (and sync) I dont have com.google.android.gms.analytics anymore..... com.google.android.gms is available, on the official docs I see that's the path didnt change... any idea what's gone wrong ?
Nov 07 17:33:04 <aviran> err, nm, ignore it
Nov 07 17:41:21 <aleandro> to create dynamic fragment should we use framelayout?
Nov 07 17:47:52 <squirrel> when i press the → keyboard key in an empty edittext, viewpager switches to the view that's on the right. what's responsible for that?
Nov 07 17:49:40 <aleandro> what is the difference between static and dynamic fragments?
Nov 07 17:51:10 <squirrel> i guess xml vs creation in java
Nov 07 17:52:07 <aleandro> squirrel: i did not understand
Nov 07 17:52:13 <TacticalJoke> Static fragments can't be replaced or removed (or added).
Nov 07 17:52:48 <squirrel> hum. how does one make such a fragment
Nov 07 17:54:00 <aleandro> first i want to ask something.when i google static and dynamic fragment examples i always see framelayout
Nov 07 17:54:26 <TacticalJoke> squirrel:  You can declare them in XML.
Nov 07 17:54:32 <aleandro> do we have to use framelayout for dynamic fragments?
Nov 07 17:54:40 <TacticalJoke> No.  It's just nice and simple.
Nov 07 17:54:51 <squirrel> TacticalJoke: what makes it unremovable?
Nov 07 17:55:03 <jellybee> Hey, post lolipop you can set the notification bar colorPrimaryDark using styles, can i be done programmatically? I dont want to change the colorPrimaryDark for the entire app, just the color of the system notification bar
Nov 07 17:55:23 <jellybee> cant it be done*
Nov 07 17:55:32 <aleandro> TacticalJoke: no was for my question ?
Nov 07 17:56:07 <TacticalJoke> aleandro:  Yes.
Nov 07 17:56:20 <aleandro> thank you :)
Nov 07 17:56:52 <jellybee> getWindow().setStatusBarColor() does the trick
Nov 07 17:59:15 <TacticalJoke> squirrel:  I'm not sure; I've never investigated.
Nov 07 17:59:27 <TacticalJoke> I just remember that they're very static when declared in XML.
Nov 07 18:01:46 <aleandro> using fragment transaction means it is dynamic ?
Nov 07 18:02:11 <TacticalJoke> Yeah.
Nov 07 18:03:04 <aleandro> can i use fragment manager in static fragment? or is it dynamic fragment also ?
Nov 07 18:04:34 <TacticalJoke> I think you can't use fragment transactions at all with fragments declared in XML.
Nov 07 18:05:19 <squirrel> i'm not sure about that
Nov 07 18:05:49 <TacticalJoke> Why are you not sure?
Nov 07 18:05:55 <pfn> you can still remove. the fragment
Nov 07 18:06:03 <pfn> and add stuff into the container, iirc
Nov 07 18:06:25 <aleandro> i see a code for static fragment like this
Nov 07 18:06:27 <aleandro> Fragment fragment = getFragmentManager().findFragmentById( R.id.static_fragment );
Nov 07 18:06:57 <g00s> aleandro read this, pretty good https://guides.codepath.com/android/Creating-and-Using-Fragments
Nov 07 18:08:27 <aleandro> g00s: thanx
Nov 07 18:20:40 <natanavra> Hi guys, quick question... If you were using an SDK and you expect a key-value object from it. Would you prefer it to be a JSONObject or a HashMap?
Nov 07 18:20:56 <yawkat> a Map.
Nov 07 18:21:18 <yawkat> first of all, JSONObject is part of a horrid api that should die.
Nov 07 18:21:38 <yawkat> second, use the contract types for collections, not the implementation types.
Nov 07 18:30:39 <natanavra> Thanks
Nov 07 18:31:10 <natanavra> If the HashMap hold all kinds of types (JSONish) should I define a HashMap<String, Object>?
Nov 07 18:31:41 <danijoo> you should rethink the design in this case :/
Nov 07 18:31:47 <yawkat> ^
Nov 07 18:32:06 <yawkat> java is statically typed. work with it, not against it.
Nov 07 18:32:19 * wakelock totally thinks everything should be defined as Object and typecasted as needed
Nov 07 18:33:10 <natanavra> In my case I must have it generic
Nov 07 18:33:19 <natanavra> It's a configuration file that constantly changes
Nov 07 18:33:35 <yawkat> have you considered making a class for it
Nov 07 18:33:52 <wakelock> or interface
Nov 07 18:34:02 <yawkat> i dont really see many cases where a configuration would have changing keys.
Nov 07 18:34:05 <natanavra> What will that give me if it's constantly changing?
Nov 07 18:34:26 <wakelock> maybe you should explain your specific situation
Nov 07 18:34:51 <natanavra> I'm building a library for pulling configurations
Nov 07 18:34:57 <natanavra> It will be used by many applications
Nov 07 18:35:20 <natanavra> and so I can't have a class for it and the keys will definitely change from app to app
Nov 07 18:35:30 <yawkat> so let the app author define the class
Nov 07 18:35:37 <yawkat> pullConfiguration(type)
Nov 07 18:35:38 <g00s> natanavra have you looked at google tag manager ?
Nov 07 18:35:45 <yawkat> then use jackson or gson for deserialization
Nov 07 18:36:00 <wakelock> there is also http://developer.android.com/reference/android/util/TypedValue.html
Nov 07 18:36:08 <natanavra> I don't want the app author to have any overhead in implementing it
Nov 07 18:36:22 <wakelock> like they said... you need to rethink your approach
Nov 07 18:36:23 <natanavra> @g00s what's that?
Nov 07 18:36:34 <g00s> google it
Nov 07 18:37:12 <natanavra> K thanks.
Nov 07 18:38:28 <g00s> you can use it to configure apps , they get a default container and can then update later on
Nov 07 18:40:22 <g00s> but you may also just want to see how they deal with the api for keys/values
Nov 07 18:40:53 <g00s> you give them a json and then tag manager api can get things out of it, but its limited
Nov 07 18:41:50 <natanavra> g00s: Yeah I'm looking into it now
Nov 07 18:42:16 <natanavra> they just have an API for each type e.g. "getString(key)" "getColor(key)" etc
Nov 07 18:43:30 <natanavra> By the way, holding that object inside the library would be done using a HashMap<String, Object> anyway
Nov 07 18:43:43 <yawkat> ew.
Nov 07 18:43:49 <natanavra> What's a possible alternative to keeping a reference to the map?
Nov 07 18:44:05 <yawkat> seriously, consider data binding.
Nov 07 18:44:23 <natanavra> Not possible, I can't define a class for that
Nov 07 18:44:37 <yawkat> so let the user define the class.
Nov 07 18:44:42 <yawkat> it's a much, much better solution.
Nov 07 18:44:52 <yawkat> this isnt javascript.
Nov 07 18:44:53 <p_l> natanavra: weak references might be important in such case, btw
Nov 07 18:45:00 <yawkat> what?
Nov 07 18:45:13 <natanavra> p_l: How is that accomplished in Java?
Nov 07 18:45:31 <natanavra> yawkat I understand this ain't javascript, the I'll probably advise the users to do it
Nov 07 18:45:40 * yawkat does not see any connection with weak references
Nov 07 18:45:43 <natanavra> But I still need to expose an API for pulling these values
Nov 07 18:46:01 <p_l> natanavra: don't remember, mostly used libs that wrapped the necessary work, but depending on case getting a reference from the map, I might not want to keep that reference forever...
Nov 07 18:46:13 <wakelock> just pull an Object and let the user guess what it is :rolleyes:
Nov 07 18:46:16 <yawkat> p_l: i really dont think this applies here
Nov 07 18:46:34 <p_l> yawkat: I might have missed bits and pieces of the conversation
Nov 07 18:47:01 <natanavra> wakelock: I'm thinking something around the lines of the Google Tag Manager
Nov 07 18:47:18 <natanavra> with one additional method "getValue(key)" which will return an Object and should be casted by the user
Nov 07 18:47:50 <yawkat> well you probably need to pass in the class as well.
Nov 07 18:47:59 <yawkat> because strong typing.
Nov 07 18:48:29 <natanavra> Can you elaborate?
Nov 07 18:48:45 <natanavra> The method accepts a second argument of type class?
Nov 07 18:48:49 <yawkat> yes.
Nov 07 18:49:01 <natanavra> And how will it be casted back for the user?
Nov 07 18:49:03 <yawkat> unless you have other ways of knowing the type of the object.
Nov 07 18:49:15 <natanavra> Or the class returns a "T" type?
Nov 07 18:49:21 <natanavra> (Sorry, Java is not my strongest side)
Nov 07 18:49:42 <yawkat> okay, say your json is {"a":{...}}. what type is a?
Nov 07 18:49:56 <natanavra> a JSONObject
Nov 07 18:50:12 <yawkat> and how is the user gonna cast that to anything?
Nov 07 18:50:19 <yawkat> JSONObject is just an ugly form of map
Nov 07 18:50:32 <yawkat> you cant just cast a map to an object with matching fields
Nov 07 18:51:37 <natanavra> If a method "getValue(a)" return an Object type
Nov 07 18:52:04 <natanavra> and the user on his end calls like so: "JSONObject a = (JSONObject)lib.getValue("a");
Nov 07 18:52:08 <natanavra> Won't it work?
Nov 07 18:52:23 <danijoo> natanavra, what about giving the user the possibility to return basic types by key
Nov 07 18:52:27 <yawkat> yes, that will work, but i assumed you wanted to do actual object mapping because thats sane.
Nov 07 18:52:28 <danijoo> like sharedPreferences does it
Nov 07 18:52:32 <danijoo> getInt(key)
Nov 07 18:52:35 <danijoo> getString(key)
Nov 07 18:52:36 <danijoo> etc
Nov 07 18:52:46 <yawkat> also, FYI, json-simple is the absolute worst json api for java, dont use it.
Nov 07 18:52:47 <aleandro> can i use fragment manager in static fragment
Nov 07 18:53:05 <natanavra> danijoo: That's the plan + another method for generic types
Nov 07 18:53:06 <danijoo> aleandro, its not a class method
Nov 07 18:53:18 <squirrel> aleandro: yes you can
Nov 07 18:53:36 <aleandro> but not transaction right ?
Nov 07 18:53:37 <natanavra> yawkat: One moment, leaving the JSON api aside
Nov 07 18:53:48 <yawkat> yea, it was just a side note.
Nov 07 18:54:17 <natanavra> The object mapping is not exposed to the user, he only accesses values using a string
Nov 07 18:54:34 <natanavra> Like demonstrated, so as far as my lib should work - it's fine.
Nov 07 18:54:42 * yawkat is not a big fan of that pattern.
Nov 07 18:55:10 <natanavra> Well, if the user isn't creating an object by himself to map it, I'll still let him the config
Nov 07 18:55:13 <yawkat> see i work with a project that has this class: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/configuration/Configuration.html
Nov 07 18:55:18 <natanavra> Let's say he wants to map it to a class
Nov 07 18:55:39 <natanavra> He will be expecting a HashMap to use in a constructor, correct?
Nov 07 18:55:40 <yawkat> one of the most terrible design choices in the project, and it does exactly what youre currently doing.
Nov 07 18:55:53 <yawkat> natanavra: no? just use jackson to map it automatically.
Nov 07 18:56:08 <danijoo> natanavra, no he will expect to be able to pass some kind of deserializer to let your lib make the object for him
Nov 07 18:56:39 <danijoo> at least that would be what I expect
Nov 07 18:56:50 <natanavra> yawkat: I'm checking up on jackson now
Nov 07 18:56:56 <natanavra> danijoo: The object will be created in runtime
Nov 07 18:57:07 <natanavra> so how will it be typed in compile time?
Nov 07 18:58:20 <yawkat> natanavra: this example does what youre currently trying to do, your way. http://wiki.fasterxml.com/JacksonInFiveMinutes#A.22Raw.22_Data_Binding_Example
Nov 07 18:58:55 <yawkat> thats a clumsy way of doing data binding.
Nov 07 18:59:37 <yawkat> this here is proper data binding: http://www.cowtowncoder.com/blog/archives/2010/08/entry_409.html
Nov 07 19:01:42 <natanavra> I'm sorry I don't get it... You're taking me back to defining a class for data representation?
Nov 07 19:02:00 <natanavra> danijoo: ?
Nov 07 19:07:09 <last_staff> "As a user, I want to serialize a class containing a Paint object, and unserialize said class, which returns an identical Paint object"
Nov 07 19:07:34 <last_staff> I created "SerializedPaint extends Paint implements Serializable"
Nov 07 19:07:48 <last_staff> and I can serialize the class
Nov 07 19:08:11 <last_staff> but when unserializing, the color and strokewidth (i.e., everything) is off
Nov 07 19:08:46 <danijoo> might be not that easy.
Nov 07 19:08:56 <danijoo> look at the source if theres something not serializeable
Nov 07 19:09:00 <SimonVT> You can't just implement serializable and expect it to work..
Nov 07 19:09:09 <SimonVT> Otherwise everything might as well be serializable
Nov 07 19:10:00 <last_staff> worked for every other class I serialized....I had no basis to expect otherwise
Nov 07 19:12:36 <SimonVT> Well, now you know
Nov 07 19:18:42 <last_staff> where can I read up on WHY Paint is "a pain to serialize"?
Nov 07 19:20:08 <last_staff> http://android.wanderinghorse.net/2012/06/17/serialization-101-with-json-in-android/ is the closest I've gotten to be given an even remote explanation
Nov 07 19:24:19 <SimonVT> Serializable lets you serialize an object and its fields
Nov 07 19:24:28 <SimonVT> There's no color or strokewidth field: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/master/graphics/java/android/graphics/Paint.java
Nov 07 19:28:18 <g00s> so is it pretty much established that updating apps on play at a regular interval improves their ranking ?
Nov 07 19:31:59 <t2mkn> is their any way turn off the mini icon of a persistent notification?
Nov 07 19:39:46 <cart_man> Hey what does one call the little alerts that pop up ontop of your screen when an APP has something to alert you about?
Nov 07 19:41:09 <t2mkn> a Dialog message
Nov 07 19:42:29 <SimonVT> A notification?
Nov 07 19:43:17 <last_staff> cart_man: AlertDialog
Nov 07 19:43:20 <last_staff> ?
Nov 07 19:44:19 <aleandro> how can i understand a code is static or dynamic fragment
Nov 07 19:46:46 <t2mkn> cart_man: are u looking for a "Toast" message?
Nov 07 19:48:31 <danijoo> Snackbar?
Nov 07 19:48:53 <squirrel> cart_man: heads-up notification it is
Nov 07 19:51:42 <t2mkn> is there any test case which can remove a persistent notification. any system side issue or any other app?
Nov 07 19:52:03 <veryhappy> hey guys... my android studio emulator doesn't boot up, what could be the reason?
Nov 07 19:52:43 <t2mkn> veryhappy: aren't you getting any error message?
Nov 07 19:53:44 <veryhappy> t2mkn: no, the emulator is just stuck booting up the android x86 image... the x64 image even doesn't work at all.
Nov 07 19:54:45 <t2mkn> veryhappy: no messages at all !
Nov 07 19:57:27 <veryhappy> t2mkn: ok i'll look it up again if you guide me where to look... sorry
Nov 07 19:57:36 <veryhappy> i've been way to unspecific
Nov 07 19:58:22 <danijoo> veryhappy, use genymotion
Nov 07 19:58:30 <t2mkn> veryhappy: do u see "Run" window when you try to start it? the messages will be coming their.
Nov 07 19:59:14 <veryhappy> t2mkn: ok, hold on
Nov 07 20:02:35 <cart_man> last_staff: Sounds about right...
Nov 07 20:02:44 <cart_man> squirrel: will have to check...probably right also
Nov 07 20:02:50 <cart_man> t2mkn: No that is not it
Nov 07 20:04:04 <t2mkn> cart_man: then it can be System Alert using a Service.
Nov 07 20:05:06 <TacticalJoke> This looks so pointless: https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/3rwvfj/check_out_my_neveremptylistview_it_puts_an_end_to/
Nov 07 20:05:29 <veryhappy> t2mkn: so when i start the avd manager and the avd separately from the project where do i find the logs then?
Nov 07 20:06:16 <t2mkn> veryhappy: how u r starting?
Nov 07 20:07:00 <g00s> TacticalJoke lol
Nov 07 20:07:27 <g00s> hey , somebody has embedded lisp for android :D
Nov 07 20:07:50 <cart_man> See this pic -- > http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/android-l-heads-up2.jpg
Nov 07 20:07:51 <p_l> which one? :P
Nov 07 20:08:07 <g00s> https://common-lisp.net/project/ecl/
Nov 07 20:08:07 <cart_man> The one first from the right... right ontop there is a pop up message
Nov 07 20:08:25 <cart_man> I want to do that from a service
Nov 07 20:08:40 <veryhappy> t2mkn: i open the avd manager and start the avd ... normally i use the green execute symbol with the play symbol like on old recorders but i'm not sure if i have a working project now.
Nov 07 20:08:55 <p_l> g00s: ahh, ECL, yes, my friend works on that
Nov 07 20:08:58 <g00s> p_l i was reading swiftkey used clojure
Nov 07 20:09:33 <p_l> ... might fit occassional slowness :P
Nov 07 20:09:44 <g00s> XD
Nov 07 20:10:10 <p_l> tl;dr clojure had issues that were related to android specifically, not so much with the language
Nov 07 20:10:38 <g00s> p_l the Skummet project is working on those areas
Nov 07 20:10:55 <t2mkn> veryhappy: in AndroidStudio on very left-buttom u can see a menu option. take your pointer their and click "Run". the window will show up.
Nov 07 20:11:48 <g00s> p_l TacticalJoke CedricBeust meanwhile ceylon guys are making progress on intellij plugin
Nov 07 20:11:55 <veryhappy> t2mkn: got it! i'll give you a pastebin in a few seconds ok?
Nov 07 20:12:07 <cart_man> t2mkn: Have you seen the picture?
Nov 07 20:12:12 <cart_man> squirrel: ^^
Nov 07 20:12:18 <g00s> exciting times ... if google can get the underlying java story back on track
Nov 07 20:12:37 <pfn> g00s, jetbrains themselves support the scala plugin :p
Nov 07 20:12:41 <p_l> g00s: well, there's currently a commercial ANSI (w/ MOP) Common Lisp implementation for Android (and iOS too)
Nov 07 20:12:46 <t2mkn> cart_man: yes, thats the new notification. max priority.
Nov 07 20:13:07 <cart_man> t2mkn: Hmm ok so its called new notification ?
Nov 07 20:13:15 <g00s> p_l yeah i think i know what you're talking about, last i looked it was pretty expensive
Nov 07 20:13:26 <cart_man> t2mkn: Im just looking for the general name so I can get tutorials on it
Nov 07 20:13:30 <p_l> g00s: well, it's not really expensive for typical client of theirs
Nov 07 20:13:44 <pfn> might as well do clojure if you want a lisp on android
Nov 07 20:14:02 <g00s> yeah i pretty much lost interest in common lisp, i'd go for clojure
Nov 07 20:14:06 <pfn> you can even do it on ios. via robovm.
Nov 07 20:14:08 <t2mkn> cart_man: no it's new type of notification with special buttons :D u cant add Dismiss and Snoze like buttons in a normal notification message.
Nov 07 20:14:29 <pfn> g00s, you'll go for nothing and you'll like it
Nov 07 20:14:33 <pfn> :p
Nov 07 20:14:34 <cart_man> t2mkn: Ohh right ok! Yes that would be really usefull !
Nov 07 20:14:44 <veryhappy> t2mkn: http://pastebin.com/vm3waWu8
Nov 07 20:15:06 <g00s> pfn just trying to stay focused and ship something by black friday :P
Nov 07 20:15:08 <t2mkn> cart_man: just bringup the tutorial in Android doces. You will be able to see such things.
Nov 07 20:15:35 <g00s> TacticalJoke you are shipping before xmas too right, right ? ????
Nov 07 20:15:40 <g00s> :D
Nov 07 20:16:04 <pfn> I'm happy, I have a solution for fully typesafe view lookups at compile time in my dsl
Nov 07 20:16:12 <pfn> no TR stuff
Nov 07 20:16:26 <TacticalJoke> I hope so.
Nov 07 20:16:48 <g00s> pfn what is TR ?
Nov 07 20:16:55 <pfn> IO(aTextView) >>= id(Id.something)
Nov 07 20:17:07 <cart_man> t2mkn: Awesome its exactly what I wanted! Thanks allot man!
Nov 07 20:17:16 <pfn> and later, view.find(Id.something) // returns TextView
Nov 07 20:17:24 <pfn> not View
Nov 07 20:17:24 <t2mkn> veryhappy: it clearly states RAM is low for your emulator. Increase it. And also see if HAXM is properly installed.
Nov 07 20:17:30 <pfn> g00s, typed resources
Nov 07 20:17:47 <t2mkn> cart_man: wc ;)
Nov 07 20:18:39 <TacticalJoke> veryhappy:  Set the emulator image to use 1GB RAM.
Nov 07 20:18:55 <pfn> g00s, old, but the  general gist remains the same http://blog.andresteingress.com/2011/09/20/programming-android-with-scala/
Nov 07 20:18:57 <veryhappy> t2mkn: ok... i'm new to programming, i already wrote a few programs (small ones) but not in android and i also didn't look behind all the settings yet... have some experience with virtualbox though i first need to get into this stuff... i'm sure you guys help me ;)
Nov 07 20:20:11 <t2mkn> veryhappy: use Google. thats your best friend. Don't let us be Google for you :D
Nov 07 20:20:23 <squirrel> cart_man: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/notifiers/notifications.html#Heads-up
Nov 07 20:20:33 <veryhappy> t2mkn: yea ok... but for some questions i'll ask you anyway ;)
Nov 07 20:20:36 <veryhappy> internal storage set to 1GB? or sdcard?
Nov 07 20:21:32 <TacticalJoke> RAM amount.
Nov 07 20:21:33 <t2mkn> veryhappy: RAM is not SD
Nov 07 20:21:52 <veryhappy> well ram is already set to 1536MB
Nov 07 20:22:07 <TacticalJoke> Is that 1GB?
Nov 07 20:22:16 <veryhappy> <1GB
Nov 07 20:22:23 <veryhappy> nope i mean more than 1GB
Nov 07 20:22:34 <t2mkn> lol
Nov 07 20:22:51 <veryhappy> does it need more than 1 GB/
Nov 07 20:23:00 <t2mkn> then something has gone wrong with your emulator image. delete that and make a fresh one.
Nov 07 20:23:38 <TacticalJoke> veryhappy:  Just read http://pastebin.com/vm3waWu8 .
Nov 07 20:24:29 <pfn> g00s, TR is auto generated at build time
Nov 07 20:27:43 <veryhappy> to be honest... i read that after i got the hint where to find the logs... i'll try to set that up after i'm back... need to know anyway what haxm is....
Nov 07 20:28:12 <t2mkn> all the best (y)
Nov 07 20:28:58 <veryhappy> thanks..
Nov 07 20:29:46 <veryhappy> i'll read it up thanks to our hints... i'll join the room if i got new questions that i can't solve with google. thanks. see you later
Nov 07 20:30:06 <t2mkn> (y)
Nov 07 20:46:20 <aleandro> what is static and dynamic frament
Nov 07 20:55:19 <TacticalJoke> aleandro:  Didn't we go through this before.  :s
Nov 07 20:55:53 <aleandro> i still not get that
Nov 07 21:11:46 <we6jbo2> Hi
Nov 07 21:14:36 <drose379> Anyone have an idea of how to make a Location object from a postal zip code?
Nov 07 21:16:08 <squirrel> did t2mkn just use skype smileys on irc
Nov 07 21:28:14 <Zta> How do I programmatically animate the elevation of a View?  I want to add it to an AnimationSet where I've already added a TranslationAnimation, ScaleAnimation and RotateAnimation.
Nov 07 21:31:44 <SimonVT> Switch to ViewPropertyAnimator
Nov 07 21:31:47 <SimonVT> elevation is translationZ
Nov 07 21:33:23 <SimonVT> view.animate().translationZ(...).scaleX(..).rotation(..) etc
Nov 07 21:40:15 <Limpik> why android studio memory tool text size so small, cant read...
Nov 07 21:44:38 <squirrel> Limpik: go for MAT
Nov 07 21:49:53 <Limpik> squirrel: MAT?
Nov 07 21:50:05 <Zta> Limpik: AS is a damn hipster tool. It's meant to be eye-bleeding ugly just so you feel special. Use the dracula (HAH, I spelt it wrong!) theme for an extra boost of *LOOK AT ME*.
Nov 07 21:50:20 <Zta> Use Eclipse =)
Nov 07 21:50:38 <Zta> SimonVT: Right, I'll see if that's doable.
Nov 07 21:51:30 <squirrel> Limpik: eclipse memory analyzer tool
Nov 07 21:52:05 <squirrel> Zta: but dracula is awesome
Nov 07 21:52:47 <Limpik> Thanks
Nov 07 21:53:27 <Zta> squirrel: I can understand why a dark theme is compelling. But I personally thing the theme has too low contrast. Also, as soon as you alt-tab (or Macintosh-tab) or a different app, your eyes will burn.
Nov 07 21:54:08 <Zta> (..because white is the de-facto background of browsers, file managers, document writers, etc. and you're likely to hit one of those).
Nov 07 21:54:30 <squirrel> Zta: ½ my apps are white on black, and there user css out there as well
Nov 07 21:55:05 <squirrel> contrast is subjective tho. fine for me
Nov 07 21:56:52 <Zta> squirrel: really? These are white on black for you? https://www.google.com/   developer.android.com/develop/   https://www.facebook.com/
Nov 07 21:58:36 <Zta> Too bad view.setScaleX() doesn't return the View and allows for chaining, like animate()... does
Nov 07 22:02:50 <squirrel> Zta: user css tho
Nov 07 22:03:19 <Zta> squirrel: I'm not sure I know what that is.
Nov 07 22:03:33 <squirrel> stuff that changes how websites look.
Nov 07 22:04:15 <squirrel> https://userstyles.org/
Nov 07 22:05:45 <w0bni> I am having some trouble with onCreate()/onResume()
Nov 07 22:06:06 <w0bni> my activity displays a list of tasks. The user can click it, mark it as completed, and then use the back button to return to the list of tasks.
Nov 07 22:06:30 <w0bni> Then, I want the task to be marked as completed, which I ususally solve by putting the entire task fetch/list generation in onResume()
Nov 07 22:06:49 <w0bni> However, this time I programatically add some titles and fragments, so if I keep them on onResume(), everything disappears upon rotation
Nov 07 22:07:10 <w0bni> so currently it seems like I have to choose between updating the list upon back press and supporting rotation
Nov 07 22:07:16 <w0bni> I guess I am doing something very wrong?
Nov 07 22:10:06 <Zta> squirrel: Clever. But too complex for me, I think.  I occasionally use Super+N to negate (invert) a specific window, mostly for reading PDF. Firefox has a nice Reader View mode that removes clutter and allows white on dark gray, but too few pages support it.
Nov 07 22:11:30 <Zta> Come to think of it, OLED monitors and more white on darkgray or black would be welcome =)
Nov 07 22:16:35 <Zta> w0bni: I think you have to look into onSaveInstanceState() and the Bundle that gets passed to onCreate(): http://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/recreating.html
Nov 07 22:21:47 <badlogic> ello
Nov 07 22:50:11 <angrytortoise> hey does anyone mind helping me out with getting my app to launch with boot? i have the boot receiver and manifest set up but it's not booting with android.
Nov 07 22:50:11 <angrytortoise> http://pastebin.com/UubRcAsh
Nov 07 22:59:01 <angrytortoise> anyone awake?
Nov 07 23:06:44 <LordRatte> angrytortoise: Aye.
Nov 07 23:06:49 <angrytortoise> Hey
Nov 07 23:07:01 <angrytortoise> think I may have found my problem? Not using a fully qualified class name in the manifest
Nov 07 23:07:01 <LordRatte> How goes?
Nov 07 23:07:20 <angrytortoise> Just playin with Java. Not much of a developer but doing a little project for a friend :)
Nov 07 23:08:26 <angrytortoise> so for the bootreceiver specifications in the manifest, I had: android:name=".BootReceiver"
Nov 07 23:08:48 <angrytortoise> should I be using: "android:name="com.example.siriu5.automata.BootReceiver""
Nov 07 23:08:56 <angrytortoise> instead?
Nov 07 23:10:04 <LordRatte> I'm usually the one that asks questions.
Nov 07 23:10:17 <LordRatte> But I'll have a look at your code.
Nov 07 23:10:18 <SimonVT> You need to put it in the application tag
Nov 07 23:10:56 <angrytortoise> ah, I see Simon. So the receiver element needs to be under the app element?
Nov 07 23:11:22 <SimonVT> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/receiver-element.html
Nov 07 23:11:45 <SimonVT> If you're ever in doubt, it's documented for all manifest tags
Nov 07 23:12:07 <angrytortoise> thanks a bunch. Googling never quite beats man pages does it? xD
Nov 07 23:12:20 <LordRatte> Or SimonVT can look for me 😊
Nov 07 23:13:39 <angrytortoise> also, another problem - not coding related(well kinda). I have a fresh install of Win7 I'm working with, and android studio seems to keep freezing(i have the newest version) on gradle build
Nov 07 23:13:44 <angrytortoise> it'll just sit there and spin its wheels
Nov 07 23:13:57 <angrytortoise> anyone know whats up with that? it's really annoying and not like I have a large program I'm compiling
Nov 07 23:14:27 <angrytortoise> E8400 @ 3.6ghz and 4gb ram so it's not resource related either.
Nov 07 23:14:27 <LordRatte> What version of Java do you have?
Nov 07 23:14:55 <angrytortoise> JDK 7 update 79
Nov 07 23:15:15 <LordRatte> And is it Oracle's build?
Nov 07 23:15:29 <angrytortoise> yep
Nov 07 23:15:32 <angrytortoise> 3:05:17 PM Executing tasks: [:app:generateDebugSources, :app:generateDebugAndroidTestSources, :app:compileDebugSources, :app:compileDebugAndroidTestSources] 3:05:20 PM Gradle build finished in 4s 82ms 3:09:31 PM Executing tasks: [:app:generateDebugSources, :app:generateDebugAndroidTestSources, :app:compileDebugSources, :app:compileDebugAndroidTestSources]
Nov 07 23:15:32 <LordRatte> Or OpenJDK or something.
Nov 07 23:15:34 <angrytortoise> just sits there
Nov 07 23:16:09 <angrytortoise> it's been trying to cancel the task for around 10 minutes now -_- i end up having to manually end the tasks. thinking of just reinstalling on my ubuntu partition and going from there.
Nov 07 23:16:31 <LordRatte> That's what I did.
Nov 07 23:16:45 <LordRatte> And now I can sleep peacefully.
Nov 07 23:16:52 <angrytortoise> lmao
Nov 07 23:17:03 <LordRatte> When I'm not on IRC, of course.
Nov 07 23:17:37 <angrytortoise> *nix, the real it just werks
Nov 07 23:30:25 <michalrus> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33588986/androids-sound-card-randomly-turned-off-with-audiotrack
Nov 07 23:30:29 <michalrus> Anyone? :)
Nov 07 23:30:30 <michalrus> What could be causing this?
Nov 07 23:30:55 <mentazoom> im using images from drawable and using imageview to display them and getting OutOfMemoryError when I try with higher res images. Should I just use low res images or is there easy work around?
Nov 07 23:37:51 <dcz> hallo
Nov 07 23:37:52 <dcz> i have 2 fragments, once contains button and edittext, the other holds arraylist of strings. i am struggling with onSaveInstanceState , onRestoreInstanceState to rotate phone and get same content.
Nov 07 23:37:59 <dcz> how do we do get content of arraylist at onSaveInstanceState and  restore ?
Nov 07 23:40:30 <mentazoom> dcz     outState.putStringArrayList("savedList", list);
Nov 07 23:41:05 <mentazoom> or int or whatever
Nov 07 23:41:12 <dcz> i did that but it doesnt :(
Nov 07 23:41:27 <mentazoom> you are doing something else wrong then
Nov 07 23:43:12 <mentazoom> or nevermind I don't know if it's because of fragments, someone else can tell
Nov 08 00:36:31 <angrytortoise> hey. so I have a program that launches at startup with android, and it crashes on start up. heres my code: http://pastebin.com/rcF5bRAz
Nov 08 00:36:51 <angrytortoise> i've tried putting the app to sleep to see if that'd resolve it but it doesn't
Nov 08 00:38:07 <canvs2321-> where is the stacktrace for the crash?
Nov 08 00:38:43 <angrytortoise> how do i find that? I'm a total java and android dev novice
Nov 08 00:38:50 <canvs2321-> logcat
Nov 08 00:40:38 <angrytortoise> i ran adb logcat to a text file, I found "Automata", what should I be looking for as a error report?
Nov 08 00:42:14 <angrytortoise> k I found this
Nov 08 00:42:14 <angrytortoise> E/AndroidRuntime(  780): java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate receiver com.example.siriu5.automata.BootReceiver: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.example.siriu5.automata.BootReceiver
Nov 08 00:44:01 <canvs2321-> package="com.example.automata" >
Nov 08 00:44:14 <canvs2321-> then you have com.example.siriu5.automata
Nov 08 00:44:41 <canvs2321-> the added ".siriu5." maybe the issue
Nov 08 00:44:42 <angrytortoise> okay. I haven't played with OOP since 3 years ago in college(IT major, not comp sci/programming)
Nov 08 00:45:09 <canvs2321-> should probably be com.example.automata.BootReceiver
Nov 08 00:45:26 <angrytortoise> the basics behind it is that I am requesting the *package* which holds all the methods? how's this work? maybe theres a quick read I could use to familiarize myself with classes/objects/methods etc.
Nov 08 00:45:42 <angrytortoise> because clearly I was requesting "automata"(my app) instead of the package itself.
Nov 08 00:45:45 <angrytortoise> what's the difference there?
Nov 08 00:45:46 <canvs2321-> just use the correct package name
Nov 08 00:46:23 <angrytortoise> what's the difference between com.example.siriu5.automata and com.example.automata
Nov 08 00:46:44 <canvs2321-> com.example.siriu5. doesn't exist?
Nov 08 00:46:52 <angrytortoise> AH! hahaha dope
Nov 08 00:46:54 <canvs2321-> unless you have a package for that
Nov 08 00:46:59 <angrytortoise> one of my previous projects had siriu5 appended to it
Nov 08 00:47:10 <angrytortoise> and i was CPing the code
Nov 08 00:47:11 <angrytortoise> xD
Nov 08 00:47:14 <angrytortoise> thanks amte
Nov 08 00:47:16 <angrytortoise> mate*
Nov 08 02:07:30 <sleepster> does anyone know how apps automatically create an icon on the launcher when their apps install?  I find links like this (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19240194/how-to-create-app-shortcut-on-home-screen-on-android-phones-on-installation) that describe how but it requires someone manually running the command
Nov 08 02:11:09 <g00s> huh "jack will probably be in beta for another year or two" ... i wonder if this guy is right, thats a long ass time
Nov 08 02:25:52 <JimHawking> comcast put a lock on our internet because someone downloaded too much or something.  so now i literally cant google anything.  But at least android-dev still works so i can ask every question here
Nov 08 02:27:55 <JimHawking> they only let you go to google, youtube, facebook, wiki.  But not stackOverflow:(  I guess i can use the google.dev site still! which is cool
Nov 08 02:42:32 <g00s> JimHawking without SO, you are SOL :)
Nov 08 02:52:18 <angrytortoise> hey
Nov 08 02:52:43 <angrytortoise> i have a onClick function that I want to close the application
Nov 08 02:52:46 <angrytortoise> how does one do xD
Nov 08 02:53:41 <g00s> angrytortoise one does by reading docs
Nov 08 02:53:59 <angrytortoise> yeah think I just found it
Nov 08 02:54:04 <angrytortoise> laziness
Nov 08 02:54:16 <angrytortoise> in other news my automation application is near completion :)
Nov 08 02:54:36 <angrytortoise> my ethics have decreased exponentially but the money sure does look nice.
Nov 08 02:58:51 <angrytortoise> ya know you coulda just said finish(0)/system.exit g00s xD
Nov 08 02:59:03 <angrytortoise> and pointed me to a recommended beginner tutorial.
Nov 08 02:59:39 <canvs2321-> he was waiting to make sure the check you wrote cleared first
Nov 08 02:59:50 <angrytortoise> learned quite a bit about good 'ol java and android development in the past 24 hours browsing tutorials
Nov 08 02:59:52 <angrytortoise> LOL
Nov 08 02:59:57 <g00s> angrytortoise no, because you are both lazy and (i guess unethical)
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