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Nov 21 03:11:07 <TacticalJoke> I don't use the NDK, but as far I'm aware it's still supported.
Nov 21 03:11:47 <b4b> TacticalJoke: where can i read about it using android studio?
Nov 21 03:15:53 <TacticalJoke> No idea; sorry.
Nov 21 03:17:20 <DLSteve> b4b, It was just added to AS not to long ago so probably not much documentation on it.
Nov 21 04:22:41 <lasserix> i have two lists. one list is days, another is events. the days have a time variable that is in string form eg "Nov 20, 2015 19:10:11". Events have epoch time, and string form like the days. Both come from GETs that take timezone offset as a param (eg their string dates are using same timezone offset). What's the best way to determine if an event is on a given day?
Nov 21 04:30:56 <pfn> use the calendar api of your choice
Nov 21 04:31:46 <pfn> using java.util.calendar, set the calendar to the date you want, and set the time to 00:00:00, getTime, set it to 1 second before midnight the next day, get time, check if epoch time is in range
Nov 21 04:35:47 <lasserix> so if DLS was in effect
Nov 21 04:36:00 <lasserix> then getTime from that cal would be +/- the hour in millseconds?
Nov 21 04:36:36 <pfn> the calendar knows about dst
Nov 21 04:36:44 <lasserix> right
Nov 21 04:36:54 <lasserix> so if i did calendar.getTimeInMillis
Nov 21 04:37:06 <lasserix> that would be less or more accounting for DLS?
Nov 21 04:37:13 <pfn> so it would be correct unless you provide it the incorrect time zone
Nov 21 04:37:18 <pfn> it is called dst
Nov 21 04:37:23 <pfn> get it right
Nov 21 04:37:28 <lasserix> damn TimeZone is a stupid class, can't tell that " GMT-07" is the same as "GMT-07"
Nov 21 04:37:40 <TacticalJoke> Only answer so far: "Kotlin":  https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/3tm66u/what_is_the_most_exciting_thing_going_on_right/
Nov 21 04:37:47 <lasserix> its friday night about 9pm i've been here since 8
Nov 21 04:37:48 <TacticalJoke> Is there anything else that qualifies as exciting?
Nov 21 04:37:58 <lasserix> i want to leave acronyms mean nothing to me right now but thanks
Nov 21 04:38:22 <lasserix> pfn yeah i know unfortunatly GMT+7 is WRONG because it won't account for DST
Nov 21 04:38:30 <lasserix> you have to use Pacific/Los Angelos
Nov 21 04:43:14 <CedricBeust> Not to be confused with San Francisca
Nov 21 04:44:14 <lasserix> the timezone is apparently named that
Nov 21 04:47:10 <pfn> lasserix, of course
Nov 21 04:47:23 <pfn> and gmt+7 is in asia
Nov 21 04:49:28 <pfn> CedricBeust, I made a build of u2020 in sbt vs gradle to compare https://gist.github.com/f31d7dcadaa08e9dc259
Nov 21 04:50:47 <CedricBeust> So 20 sec for sbt and 35 sec for gradle
Nov 21 04:51:13 <CedricBeust> kobalt not quite there yet but I'll post when it does
Nov 21 04:51:32 <CedricBeust> I'm hoping it can be under 10 seconds :)
Nov 21 04:51:59 <pfn> u2020 is actually very non trivial to build
Nov 21 04:52:39 <CedricBeust> I don't think so, besides the merging and flavor, it's really a straight build
Nov 21 04:52:45 <CedricBeust> really not CPU bound
Nov 21 04:52:46 <pfn> it uses every single feature that gradle offers, plus additional plugins
Nov 21 04:52:55 <pfn> retrolambda and dagger
Nov 21 04:52:57 <CedricBeust> yes, so gradle is at a disadvantage
Nov 21 04:53:12 <CedricBeust> sbt kicks its ass, I'm betting kobalt will too
Nov 21 04:53:58 <CedricBeust> You and I are on a crusade to show the incredulous world that builds don't have to be as slow as gradle makes them look
Nov 21 04:56:48 <g00s> CedricBeust how are you guys going to handle jigsaw?
Nov 21 05:05:11 <g00s> omg this is genius http://grapsus.net/74/
Nov 21 05:05:34 <g00s> cpu from 74xx gates implementing the 8 brainfuck instructions
Nov 21 05:07:09 <pfn> jigsaw is irrelevant for android, and. outside of that, I scala, so no java, also irrelevant
Nov 21 05:13:38 <g00s> i dunno, reading through jigsaw seems like it will permeate the ecosystem and every java dev will have to deal with it
Nov 21 05:15:30 <TacticalJoke> I think one real issue is that Java libraries will start requiring Java 8 (and up) support and Android will be left out.
Nov 21 05:20:08 <g00s> lets say we now use a library that depends on java.io. its an unstated dependency.  but tomorrow the dev puts in: module baz { requires java.io } ; our build systems are still going to have to deal with this intelligently; otoh it will be easy to know if a library works with android i guess because android /should/ have its own platform modules
Nov 21 05:24:02 <CedricBeust> g00s: It's planned
Nov 21 05:24:24 <CedricBeust> Yeah agree with g00s, it will impact everyone
Nov 21 05:27:01 <TacticalJoke> I wonder what Google is going to do to address these issues.
Nov 21 05:29:45 <CedricBeust> Maybe I'll hear more Monday at the Dev Summit
Nov 21 05:29:55 <g00s> TacticalJoke https://adtmag.com/articles/2015/11/19/progressive-web-apps.aspx
Nov 21 05:30:29 <g00s> CedricBeust isn't Erik's twitter @headinthebox ?
Nov 21 05:30:35 <g00s> i think we know whats in the box !
Nov 21 05:30:45 <g00s> omg poor erik
Nov 21 05:32:31 <g00s> http://googledevelopers.blogspot.com/2015/11/chrome-dev-summit-2015-thats-wrap.html
Nov 21 05:33:17 <CedricBeust> g00s: Yes it's Erik's twitter
Nov 21 05:43:09 <g00s> TacticalJoke by the time you and i get our apps done google will have pulled the rug from underneath us and have us rewriting everything
Nov 21 05:47:29 <TacticalJoke> We might get stuck in a perpetual cycle of not being able to release.
Nov 21 05:50:32 <suhas_sm> Hi g00s, TacticalJoke
Nov 21 05:51:09 * g00s casts weary gaze at suhas_sm 
Nov 21 05:51:31 <suhas_sm> how do I intall my aar file to local maven repo and then use it in other project as Gradle depency ?
Nov 21 05:52:12 <CedricBeust> suhas_sm: You can refer to it directly on the file system with... path() or file(), I forget
Nov 21 05:52:21 <CedricBeust> or files()
Nov 21 05:52:29 <suhas_sm> hmm
Nov 21 05:52:47 <g00s> suhas_sm the apps that want to use the artifact just need to put mavenLocal() in their dependencies { } block
Nov 21 05:53:01 <g00s> by default i think its ~/.m2repository/ ....
Nov 21 05:53:08 <g00s> not sure on windows :)
Nov 21 05:53:43 <g00s> now publishing is another story. i've had good and bad luck with that depending on the gradle version; last time it seemed to publish the aar but w/o its dependencies stated in the pom !
Nov 21 05:53:46 <suhas_sm> hmm :)
Nov 21 05:53:49 <g00s> so lol, you will have to try it
Nov 21 05:54:08 <suhas_sm> alright
Nov 21 05:54:15 <CedricBeust> It should publish the dependencies, just that one artifact and its .pom
Nov 21 05:54:19 <CedricBeust> not* publish
Nov 21 05:55:41 <g00s> CedricBeust so if your Foo artifact depends on A and B, those <dependency> decls should be missing for Foo ? O.o
Nov 21 05:56:55 <CedricBeust> Not sure what you mean by "missing", you just upload the .jar/.aar and its pom (and a few other things if you upload to maven central)
Nov 21 05:57:04 <g00s> suhas_sm so look at uploadArchives & mavenInstaller
Nov 21 05:57:06 <CedricBeust> but you're not responsible for uploading the other dependencies
Nov 21 05:57:30 <g00s> CedricBeust sure but the pom should state it depends on other things right ?
Nov 21 05:57:38 <CedricBeust> Of course
Nov 21 05:57:46 <g00s> yeah thats what was broken last :D
Nov 21 05:58:01 <suhas_sm> Thanks :) Will look at it
Nov 21 05:58:24 <CedricBeust> JCenter is a lot easier to upload stuff to, and less demanding than maven central
Nov 21 05:58:39 <g00s> suhas_sm last i tried was 1.2 or 1.3 so maybe things have changed
Nov 21 05:59:04 <g00s> also some gradle stuff for publishing to maven was incubating, not sure about that either
Nov 21 05:59:30 <suhas_sm> Alrigth will try to find about that too
Nov 21 05:59:34 <CedricBeust> Configuration to upload stuff is like 20-30 lines in gradle, one of the things I meant to fix with kobalt (it's one line :))
Nov 21 06:00:19 <g00s> CedricBeust do your android projects use maven central or jcenter ?
Nov 21 06:00:30 <g00s> i mean, to pull dependencies
Nov 21 06:00:55 <CedricBeust> g00s: I've never uploaded android stuff anywhere actually. For everything else, it's a mix. JCommander and TestNG go to Maven Central because they have too many users to ignore it. Everything else is JCenter only
Nov 21 06:01:47 <jackhum> i am adding google sign in in my android application . i used this https://developers.google.com/identity/sign-in/android/sign-in , but i am getting a white button rendered in my layout , i want it to be red
Nov 21 06:01:59 <jackhum> can anyone tell me how this is done /
Nov 21 06:17:20 <viran> Google is recommending to use the camera2 API, is that really an option if you want to support devices with API < 21 ?
Nov 21 06:17:21 <g00s> suhas_sm this is what i did last http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28361416/gradle-how-to-publish-a-android-library-to-local-repository
Nov 21 06:17:46 <g00s> weird thing tools.android.com says samples at bottom of page, but there are no more samples any more
Nov 21 06:18:17 <CedricBeust> viran: Test the current SDK and use camera1 if you have to
Nov 21 06:19:29 <viran> CedricBeust: I have to support API 15, there seem to be a bug with nexus 5x phones (photos are inverted) and google's fix is to use camera2 api
Nov 21 06:19:58 <suhas_sm> The last answer seems promisisng
Nov 21 06:20:02 <CedricBeust> viran: Not uncommon, just if/else them
Nov 21 06:21:37 <g00s> suhas_sm this is the incubating thing (still !?!?!) https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/publishing_maven.html
Nov 21 06:22:57 <CedricBeust> Publishing with Kobalt:  https://github.com/cbeust/kobalt/blob/master/kobalt/src/Build.kt#L130-L132
Nov 21 06:26:28 <g00s> that stupid maven-publish thing has been in incubation for over 2 years
Nov 21 06:26:42 <g00s> chris banes talked about in in aug 2013 https://chris.banes.me/2013/08/27/pushing-aars-to-maven-central/
Nov 21 06:26:49 <CedricBeust> wow
Nov 21 06:27:04 <CedricBeust> I publish to JCenter and then ask it to publish to Maven for me
Nov 21 06:30:45 <pfn> I just publish directly. to central
Nov 21 06:30:52 <pfn> sbt-sonatype is awesome
Nov 21 06:31:04 <CedricBeust> ... for people using sbt
Nov 21 06:31:09 <pfn> it takes care of logging into nexus so I don't have to
Nov 21 06:32:12 <pfn> sbt publish-signed sonatypeRelease
Nov 21 06:35:50 <g00s> "Vizio’s Smart TVs track your viewing habits and share it with advertisers, who can then find you on your phone and other devices." lol
Nov 21 06:35:57 <g00s> who needs a smart tv :P
Nov 21 06:38:28 <pfn> I still don't see how cross device linking is a concern, recording audio is an explicit permission
Nov 21 06:38:48 <g00s> "Data broker Experian, for instance, offers a “data enrichment” service that provide “hundreds of attributes” such as age, profession and “wealth indicators” tied to a particular IP address."
Nov 21 06:39:28 <g00s> if there was just an iota of regulation on the data broker guys, i'd be much more open to sharing private info
Nov 21 06:56:54 <suhas_sm> Published to local maven repo :)
Nov 21 06:57:06 <suhas_sm> using uploadArchives
Nov 21 06:57:16 <suhas_sm> maven plugin
Nov 21 06:57:23 <g00s> yeah thats easies ... make sure your pom is correct though :D
Nov 21 06:57:42 <g00s> the pom of the published artifact
Nov 21 07:01:42 <suhas_sm> Alright
Nov 21 07:02:07 <suhas_sm> Next step to publish it to jcenter and maven central
Nov 21 07:02:46 <suhas_sm> Do these suppport private git repos for free or subcription is needed ?
Nov 21 07:04:02 <CedricBeust> no
Nov 21 07:07:11 <suhas_sm> Subcription is needed for both ?
Nov 21 07:07:13 <suhas_sm> damn
Nov 21 07:07:43 <suhas_sm> @g00s transitive depencies are taken care of correctly
Nov 21 07:08:00 <suhas_sm> what else do I need to check in POM
Nov 21 07:08:03 <g00s> CedricBeust in one of your blog posts, i think within the past year - you mentioned some sqlite browser thing, do you remember what it was ?
Nov 21 07:08:08 <g00s> suhas_sm oh great :)
Nov 21 07:08:14 <g00s> that was it
Nov 21 07:08:24 <CedricBeust> g00s: exactly that, SqliteBrowser Ibelieve
Nov 21 07:08:35 <CedricBeust> Very useful
Nov 21 07:09:00 <g00s> CedricBeust ah ok, i found another one called SQLiteStudio .. it has an android plugin, lets you see the db live
Nov 21 07:09:27 <CedricBeust> Nice, the tool I was using required to adb pull the db
Nov 21 07:09:50 <CedricBeust> There's a chrome extension that does that too, never tried it but looked ingenious
Nov 21 07:10:28 <g00s> hm , i only used stetho
Nov 21 07:10:35 <g00s> CedricBeust this is it http://wiki.sqlitestudio.pl/index.php/DbAndroid
Nov 21 07:11:08 <CedricBeust> Looks great
Nov 21 07:11:35 <g00s> for some reason when i posted it to /r/androiddev the other day - it was downvoted
Nov 21 07:11:36 <CedricBeust> And finally a real doc with screen shots and all, hats off
Nov 21 07:11:40 <g00s> that place is weird sometimes
Nov 21 07:36:58 <g00s> CedricBeust what do you think of the new tab bar in Google+ app ?
Nov 21 07:38:36 <CedricBeust> What's that?
Nov 21 07:39:16 <g00s> Google+ app has tabs on the bottom of the screen now
Nov 21 07:39:24 <g00s> like iOS :D
Nov 21 07:39:37 <g00s> they moved everything out of the nav drawer except setting
Nov 21 07:40:02 <g00s> so nav drawer has settings and account picker
Nov 21 07:40:53 <CedricBeust> ah
Nov 21 07:51:04 <orbyt_> anyone familiar with the camera api? Or more specifically, the Callback that happens after a picture is taken?
Nov 21 07:51:33 <orbyt_> Im trying to start another activity after the picture is taken and the data is received, but am not sure how to get the Context
Nov 21 08:05:01 <Ashiren> has any of you implemented delete on swipe on recyclerView?
Nov 21 08:05:16 <Ashiren> it messes a bit with my rows
Nov 21 08:05:23 <Ashiren> relevant code: http://pastebin.com/a9n2ugb5
Nov 21 08:05:42 <g00s> RV ... making easy things hard, and hard things possible :D
Nov 21 08:05:59 <Ashiren> if i just delete item using i.e. on click then it removes fine
Nov 21 08:06:03 <Ashiren> but i want fancy swipe
Nov 21 08:28:44 <baash05> Hey.. I asked this last night and didn't get much.. Figured it's earlier tonight, so I'd give it another go.
Nov 21 08:29:05 <Ashiren> but its caturday
Nov 21 08:29:26 <baash05> Anyone know why none of the NDK samples provided with AS have no trace of Android.mk?
Nov 21 08:29:50 <baash05> None of them seem to have one of these, but according to the docs, it's a required file
Nov 21 08:30:15 <baash05> Am I wrong in my assumption that it's required?
Nov 21 08:30:57 <Ashiren> i think gradle takes care of it now
Nov 21 08:31:38 <Ashiren> i.e. my gradle looks like this http://pastebin.com/y1hCj5NA
Nov 21 08:31:43 <Ashiren> and i dont hagve any .mk
Nov 21 08:32:22 <baash05> Do you do ndk work (I suppose that's a duhhh question)
Nov 21 08:32:47 <ktwo> anyone else has the strnage problem in AS that it always changes the  languageLevel="JDK_1_8" in misc.xml?
Nov 21 08:33:00 <Murii> Any sdl 2.0 devs here? How hard was to port your C code running opengl es 2 to android?
Nov 21 08:33:05 <ktwo> i thought JDK 1.8 isnt supported on android
Nov 21 08:33:18 <ktwo> or can i use Java8 features now
Nov 21 08:35:31 <cart_man> Hey If I pop up a dialog in my onClickListener... Does the execution of the program stop and resume once the dialog exits or not?
Nov 21 08:35:34 <baash05> Interesting gradle.
Nov 21 08:37:02 <Ashiren> baash05: it works. probably its a bit outdated
Nov 21 08:37:10 <Ashiren> it comes where AS first introduced ndk support
Nov 21 08:37:51 <baash05> How do you build?  do you do anything special?
Nov 21 08:38:31 <Ashiren> i followed some tutorial
Nov 21 08:38:39 <Ashiren> i had to change classpath 'com.android.tools.build:gradle-experimental:0.2.0'
Nov 21 08:38:54 <ktwo> cart_man, it doesnt stop it will go on after showing the dialog
Nov 21 08:39:09 <baash05> Do you remember what tutorial?
Nov 21 08:39:27 <baash05> I'm trying to get a NativeActivity hello world running.
Nov 21 08:39:30 <cart_man> ktwo: Ok wait.. it does not stop and will go on after dialog... I am a bit confused
Nov 21 08:39:50 <baash05> All the docs I read point me to eclipse.
Nov 21 08:39:57 <ktwo> i mean it just continues to process all instructions after the show
Nov 21 08:40:06 <cart_man> Does it stop the execution of the calling function and goes into the Dialog...then the Dialog quite the next function in the calling function will run?
Nov 21 08:40:16 <cart_man> ktwo: Ohhhh ok
Nov 21 08:40:22 <ktwo> if you want it to stop and do something after closing you need to do it in the setPositiveButton handler
Nov 21 08:40:39 <Ashiren> baash05: i didnt use nativeActivity
Nov 21 08:40:43 <baash05> And I find the samples do not force me to learn enough.
Nov 21 08:41:00 <cart_man> ktwo: Hmmm.. ok because I want all the values selected to get retrieved from the class before it gets destroyed
Nov 21 08:41:25 <baash05> I don't think it matters right now because NativeActivity or not, there's java in there.
Nov 21 08:41:45 <ktwo> cart_man, well you can pass everything you want to the dialog
Nov 21 08:41:48 <baash05> I just want the hello world part to be drawn by the c++
Nov 21 08:42:35 <baash05> To be honest, I'll take a single red pixel on the screen as my hello world.. or yellow :)
Nov 21 08:42:44 <baash05> Haha.. Yellow world. :)
Nov 21 08:43:19 <baash05> You know where that tutorial was?
Nov 21 08:43:25 <Ashiren> baash05: maybe something like that http://ph0b.com/new-android-studio-ndk-support/
Nov 21 08:43:28 <Ashiren> i dont remember
Nov 21 08:43:53 <cart_man> ktwo: Because initially I thought I would just "upon exit" make the next function do something like "DialogClass.getSelection()" or something similar...so You are sure that it must be a setPositiveButton event?
Nov 21 08:44:24 <cart_man> ktwo: I do not know how to work with them yet and quite frankly they can be quite restricting with the passing and sharing of variables
Nov 21 08:44:40 <ktwo> not really you can pass anything you want
Nov 21 08:45:03 <baash05> Humm.. it's a start.
Nov 21 08:45:27 <baash05> Wish they'd update http://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/index.html
Nov 21 08:45:34 <canvs2321-> baash05, i believe you still need java for the gui portion
Nov 21 08:45:36 <ktwo> you could even pass the activity, and call methods of it in your dialog
Nov 21 08:46:14 <baash05> I'm rather sure you don't need java (but for the wrapper)
Nov 21 08:46:31 <ktwo> if i misunderstood something of what you want to do, just post a code snippet on pastie or something
Nov 21 08:46:32 <baash05> OpenGL can do all the gui work
Nov 21 08:47:44 <Ashiren> i think he justs want the example of printing 'hello world' from native
Nov 21 08:47:54 <Ashiren> to get project setup
Nov 21 08:51:18 <baash05> Yep
Nov 21 08:51:26 <baash05> exactly..
Nov 21 08:53:12 <baash05> Just a "yellow world" from native.
Nov 21 09:01:33 <cart_man> ktwo: Is there a way I can make different buttons act like a OK button.. For instance... I want the Dialog menu to show a bunch of options..then if the person clicks one the current dialog launches another dialog and then dies?
Nov 21 09:05:03 <surf2b1> I see a bunch of different rules for okhttp/proguard.  Do I need to add anything for OkHttp to proguard? Picasso suggests -dontwarn com.squareup.okhttp.** but stackoverflow posts and elsewhere are suggesting something like this: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/krschultz/android-proguard-snippets/master/libraries/proguard-square-okhttp.pro
Nov 21 09:06:49 <sarbs> surf2b1: those PG rules are basically telling it "don't even think about touching any okhttp class"
Nov 21 09:07:37 <sarbs> i don't *think* okhttp makes much, if any, use of generated or reflective code (though i have no idea of its internals). as long as it doesn't do any of that, it should actually be fairly safe to let PG do its thing how it wants to
Nov 21 09:07:46 <surf2b1> sarbs, yeah, I know. I want to obfuscate but worried to push something to production when others have reported issues.
Nov 21 09:08:08 <surf2b1> s/obfuscate/shrink
Nov 21 09:08:25 <sarbs> well, if obfuscation is the only concern, then it's not *too* much of an exposure risk to leave library classes alone
Nov 21 09:08:41 <sarbs> it makes figuring out what your obfuscated classes do slightly easier, but not *that* much easier
Nov 21 09:09:00 <sarbs> shrinking, that's another matter.. it will definitely affect shrinking, though how much i can't say
Nov 21 09:09:22 <surf2b1> probably not much. But I'll take what I can get.
Nov 21 09:10:10 <sarbs> either way i've done a lot of stuff with PG and the best way i've found is really just to let PG have its way with your code, and then test the shit out of the resulting binary. if stuff breaks, try to isolate the behavior that breaks, then use a java decompiler and look at the code to see what's not there that should be
Nov 21 09:11:05 <sarbs> in general, the only things that i've really found that un-fixably break are code autogeneration tools, reflection, and externally-referenced classes (aka android components like activities/services etc)
Nov 21 09:11:46 <surf2b1> yeah, I wish OkHttp had a proguard config section in their README instead of relying on various SO posts.
Nov 21 09:11:56 <surf2b1> looking at you JakeWharton :P
Nov 21 09:17:26 <sarbs> JW doesn't use proguard, so it's rare that his libraries have PG configurations - when they do, they're configurations contributed by others
Nov 21 09:19:44 <sarbs> also holy damn could someone plz do something about baash05
Nov 21 09:19:50 <cart_man> Why is my ArrayAdapter giving an error ? - >  http://pastebin.com/KjchqYGH
Nov 21 09:20:40 <surf2b1> cart_man, what's the error? probably List is null
Nov 21 09:20:46 <sarbs> cart_man: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPQnIVECcAAqtTp.jpg
Nov 21 09:21:05 <cart_man> Cannot resolve constructor
Nov 21 09:21:17 <cart_man> sarbs: Lol
Nov 21 09:21:56 <cart_man> Error:(24, 23) error: no suitable constructor found for ArrayAdapter(MenuDialog,int,String[]) constructor ArrayAdapter.ArrayAdapter(Context,int,int) is not applicable (argument mismatch; MenuDialog cannot be converted to Context) constructor ArrayAdapter.ArrayAdapter(Context,int,String[]) is not applicable (argument mismatch; MenuDialog cannot be converted to Context) constructor ArrayAdapter.ArrayAdapter(Context,int,List<Strin
Nov 21 09:21:59 <SimonVT> All the constructors take a Context.. You have no Context
Nov 21 09:22:02 <canvs2321-> Choose a different name than List for your list
Nov 21 09:22:12 <cart_man> Fuk you are right.... sighhhhh
Nov 21 09:22:13 <cart_man> thansk
Nov 21 09:22:31 <SimonVT> Which is exactly what the error tells you
Nov 21 09:24:08 <cart_man> SimonVT: Yeaaa I am not too good at reading them errors yet... getting there
Nov 21 09:39:29 <autrilla> Are data bindings worth using? Or are they too complicated to use and set up?
Nov 21 09:58:24 <autrilla> JakeWharton: are old retrofit docs stored somewhere?
Nov 21 10:15:20 <cart_man> Why does this not work when I call showMe() - > http://pastebin.com/4xskYFq2   : The error is Attempt to invoke virtual method on null object reference . I guess the better question is what do I do to make it show the dialog when I run .show() or .showMe() ?
Nov 21 10:42:17 <picoferret> cart_man: have you tried removing the AlertDialog you've got floating above your void method?
Nov 21 10:42:47 <SimonVT> I don't see you calling showMe anywhere
Nov 21 10:42:53 <cart_man> picoferret : Yes saw that right after pasting and tried it ...same stuff... null object reference
Nov 21 10:43:13 <cart_man> SimonVT: No that is in the MainActivity where I call shoeMe();
Nov 21 10:43:14 <SimonVT> Also, activities can't have custom constructore
Nov 21 10:43:16 <cart_man> SimonVT: No that is in the MainActivity where I call showMe();
Nov 21 10:43:24 <cart_man> SimonVT:  yea : /
Nov 21 10:43:25 <SimonVT> Well, then you're using Activity wrong
Nov 21 10:43:33 <SimonVT> You don't manually instantiate an Activity
Nov 21 10:43:52 <SimonVT> You can't just randomly extend Activity/Context and expect it to work
Nov 21 10:44:13 <microferret> Yeah, you might also want to remove that constructor and move your initialisation elsewhere, like dump stuff into the intent that makes your activity pop up or something
Nov 21 10:44:21 <microferret> then pull it out in your oncreate
Nov 21 10:44:34 <SimonVT> Or just not extend Activity, use it like a regular class
Nov 21 10:45:41 <cart_man> SimonVT: Ok soo hear me ... I want to have a button an when its clicked I want it to make a menu with a list of Strings I passed it... when it gets .show() it should just pop up and display a list of clickable item . I can not use the activity bar btw.
Nov 21 10:45:46 <cart_man> How would I do that?
Nov 21 10:47:12 <Ashiren> hmm does google spy on me?
Nov 21 10:47:47 <Ashiren> whenever i get encounter bug on android support
Nov 21 10:47:57 <SimonVT> With an AlertDialog, or a PopupMenu
Nov 21 10:48:01 <Ashiren> bah! new update to support library fixing the bug
Nov 21 10:56:24 <StarLight> Ashiren: well, obviously you encounter some popular bugs :P
Nov 21 11:01:12 <microferret> cart_man: something like this would work, if you want to pass stuff to an activity and make a dialog with a list pop up http://pastebin.com/Ha7VvrRy
Nov 21 11:01:58 <microferret> I didn't bother removing a bunch of the unused stuff from what you posted but you should get the idea
Nov 21 11:20:27 <kruzin> Hi.. anyone around worked with ffmpeg on android?
Nov 21 12:24:56 <dvass> I need to someone to look over the code of an app
Nov 21 12:25:07 <dvass> and fix up IAB and media player service
Nov 21 12:26:48 <dvass> in return for paymen
Nov 21 12:26:50 <dvass> payment*
Nov 21 12:36:06 <bolovanos> anybody here successfully running Android GBread device on windows? I have problems to install ADB drivers for Alcatel ot-918d
Nov 21 12:45:45 <autrilla> Does robolectric make the development workflow faster? Do robolectric tests run fast? Currently, whenever I make a change, building and pushing my app to my phone takes ~30 seconds, which is reaaally slow
Nov 21 12:58:25 <hamsterr> <span class="number b">18</span>
Nov 21 12:58:25 <hamsterr> how would i get this with jsoup.doc.select?
Nov 21 12:58:35 <hamsterr> i need value 18.. any1 got an idea?
Nov 21 13:14:35 <Bullet_93> hi, how can i make the background unclickable while my alertdialog is up ?
Nov 21 13:16:17 <hamsterr> if your background is an imageview you could set it setEnabled(false);
Nov 21 13:17:03 <ktwo> AlertDialog does it automatically oO
Nov 21 13:17:14 <ktwo> usually you cant click anything behind it
Nov 21 13:17:52 <Bullet_93> thanks :D
Nov 21 13:48:28 <vedu> Hello. no camera is showing in api 23 but works fine on api 22. Camera.open() returns null on nexus 5
Nov 21 13:48:34 <vedu> anyone faced the same issue?
Nov 21 13:51:42 <fizzie> I'm guessing not requesting the camera permission, if by API 23 you mean compiling to target it.
Nov 21 13:52:57 <vedu> I mean running the same app on api 22 phone works but fails on api 23 phone
Nov 21 13:53:15 <Mavrik> We get what you mean.
Nov 21 13:53:19 <Mavrik> Go read what changed with API 23.
Nov 21 14:02:06 <vedu> Mavrik: going through it http://developer.android.com/sdk/api_diff/23/changes.html . I am not using the camera2 package
Nov 21 14:03:34 <vedu> Mavrik: Are you talking about the new runtime permissions calls?
Nov 21 14:04:17 <bolovanos> how to easily connect and track debug information on mobile (probably trhrough ADB) on linux, using bash ?
Nov 21 14:04:30 <bolovanos> I would like to grep debug output logs...
Nov 21 14:04:51 <bolovanos> row output from mobile if may I say
Nov 21 14:04:59 <bolovanos> linux - ubuntu
Nov 21 14:06:14 <bolovanos> got it
Nov 21 14:06:16 <bolovanos> adb logcat :)
Nov 21 14:11:15 <sanketdg> how do I support both portrait and landscape orientations?
Nov 21 14:11:38 <sanketdg> android:screenOrientation="landscape" is not doing it?
Nov 21 14:26:46 <bolovanos> btw - how is your stat for adb logcat - How many rows do you collect on your device?
Nov 21 14:27:07 <bolovanos> in about 5 min of normal device usage?
Nov 21 14:27:55 <bolovanos> adb logcat | egrep -i "^./.+\(" | cut -d "(" -f 1 | cut -d "/" -f 2 > /tmp/debugOutput
Nov 21 14:28:28 <bolovanos> for Samsung T-700 it says 30 000 rows ...
Nov 21 14:33:38 <Mavrik> samsungs are very spammy
Nov 21 14:36:52 <bolovanos> would it prolong battery life it it were less spammy? ie - if users were able to supress/awake spammy logging on demand in dev menu...
Nov 21 14:37:37 <bolovanos> question is would it be recognizable?
Nov 21 14:40:38 <SimonVT> Logcat is just an in-memory ring buffer, I doubt you'd be able to measure any difference
Nov 21 14:41:33 <SimonVT> sanketdg: By default your app can be in both portrait and landscape orientation. If it doesn't rotate it's because you told it not to somewhere
Nov 21 14:41:49 <sanketdg> SimonVT: yes sorry I resolved it
Nov 21 14:41:59 <ishtiaque> hello
Nov 21 14:42:35 <ishtiaque> I am very new to android development
Nov 21 14:43:00 <ishtiaque> so I was wondering if someone can provide me a guideline on how i can laern android development
Nov 21 14:43:24 <SimonVT> Start by learning java, then go to d.android.com
Nov 21 14:43:30 <SimonVT> Install the sdk, follow the training docs
Nov 21 14:44:05 <ishtiaque> where can I find training docs?
Nov 21 14:44:24 <SimonVT> In the develop section
Nov 21 14:44:40 <ishtiaque> thank you
Nov 21 14:46:53 <bolovanos> SimonVT, some kind of buffer came to my mind too,
Nov 21 14:47:53 <bolovanos> there is one thing in play guide is sayd to suppress logging, but during that cat - I have cought 352 different apps
Nov 21 14:48:09 <bolovanos> probably most of them would be device manufacturers
Nov 21 15:14:37 <rudolf_> Hi
Nov 21 15:16:12 <rudolf_> I want to design 2 layouts for my calculator like all others. One for simple mode and one for advance mode. So, I have created a menu with 2 options : Simple and Scientific. Now how do I switch to scientific layout? Should I create a new activity with a new layout and pass the intent on option selection?
Nov 21 15:16:20 <rudolf_> Or is there a better way?
Nov 21 15:19:04 <missingno> just call setContentView again?
Nov 21 15:23:04 <rudolf_> missingno, you mean in the onClick method of the button I should set the content view again to the new activity?
Nov 21 15:24:19 <rudolf_> public void buttonClicked(View view) {  setContentView(R.layout.activityTwo); }    --> like this?
Nov 21 15:39:54 <gp5st> In code, how can I send a multi-user MMS?
Nov 21 15:40:41 <gp5st> or an aside: anyone know of a free (preferably libre) basic app that would allow sending sms from a computer?
Nov 21 15:46:37 <ecofriendly> does anyone know how to use the NDK?
Nov 21 15:58:45 <pfn> yes
Nov 21 16:00:59 <subliun> any knowledgeable rx people here?
Nov 21 16:01:36 <pfn> yes
Nov 21 16:01:53 <subliun> pfn: are you one of them?
Nov 21 16:01:59 <pfn> nope
Nov 21 16:02:03 <subliun> :P
Nov 21 16:02:15 <pfn> I don't care for rx much
Nov 21 16:02:26 <subliun> it's quite nice
Nov 21 16:02:55 <subliun> all I need is a block until first value received operator and it would be perfect
Nov 21 16:03:00 <pfn> I don't like working with collections of asynchronous items
Nov 21 16:03:05 <pfn> I prefer futures
Nov 21 16:03:27 <subliun> java futures?
Nov 21 16:03:36 <subliun> I have not heard good things
Nov 21 16:03:46 <pfn> no
Nov 21 16:04:10 <pfn> like this https://github.com/pfn/android-futures
Nov 21 16:05:07 <subliun> yes, scala futures are much nicer
Nov 21 16:05:15 <pfn> if I need a stream of data, then I. would consider using rx
Nov 21 16:05:20 <pfn> otherwise, no rx
Nov 21 16:05:32 <subliun> putting them into java does them a disservice
Nov 21 16:05:58 <pfn> eh, works fine, and worst case, you can retrolambda them into submission
Nov 21 16:06:36 <subliun> the app I'm working on is written in scala
Nov 21 16:06:40 <subliun> lucky me
Nov 21 16:07:09 <pfn> rx.scala sucks
Nov 21 16:07:28 <subliun> you think so?
Nov 21 16:07:55 <pfn> it's an ugly api
Nov 21 16:07:57 <pfn> https://github.com/pfn/keepshare/blob/master/src/main/scala/com/hanhuy/android/keepshare/Rx.scala
Nov 21 16:08:06 <pfn> needs that at least to make it usable
Nov 21 16:10:19 <subliun> scala to java observable conversions already exist
Nov 21 16:10:29 <pfn> that's not the point
Nov 21 16:10:53 <pfn> all of the rx.scala implicit conversions break type inference
Nov 21 16:14:47 <subliun> I've never experienced that
Nov 21 16:15:29 <pfn> https://github.com/pfn/keepshare/blob/master/src/main/scala/com/hanhuy/android/keepshare/GroupEditFragment.scala#L56-64
Nov 21 16:15:44 <g00s> crap, the latest SourceTree 2.0.5.6 keeps crashing on me
Nov 21 16:15:56 <pfn> example, the subscriptions must be fully typed if you don't asScala
Nov 21 16:16:03 <pfn> thus, type inference is broken
Nov 21 16:16:41 <subliun> use foreach
Nov 21 16:17:56 <autrilla> Is it easy to use Scala with Android?
Nov 21 16:18:27 <pfn> yes
Nov 21 16:18:29 <subliun> or maybe don't
Nov 21 16:18:53 <autrilla> pfn: I read building using Scala is even slower than using Java
Nov 21 16:20:22 <pfn> compiling scala is slower than java, but building scala android apps is faster than gradle
Nov 21 16:20:29 <pfn> assuming you're not using gradle
Nov 21 16:20:38 <autrilla> I'm using gradle right now
Nov 21 16:20:48 <autrilla> And building is reaaaaaaaaally slow, 30s per build or so
Nov 21 16:21:02 <pfn> https://gist.github.com/f31d7dcadaa08e9dc259
Nov 21 16:21:10 <pfn> example, full clean build
Nov 21 16:21:15 <pfn> gradle is 35 s
Nov 21 16:21:23 <pfn> alternative is 20s
Nov 21 16:21:32 <pfn> exact same project, no changes
Nov 21 16:22:20 <subliun> pfn: what's the return type of WidgetObservable.text(whatever)?
Nov 21 16:22:23 <autrilla> Huh. 20s is still really bad though. What's compiled when you build?
Nov 21 16:22:30 <subliun> I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist anymore
Nov 21 16:22:31 <autrilla> What needs so much computing?
Nov 21 16:22:42 <pfn> subliun, I haven't updated rxandroid
Nov 21 16:22:52 <pfn> autrilla, it's u2020
Nov 21 16:22:55 <pfn> so a shitton
Nov 21 16:23:07 <pfn> it does retrolambda, dagger, etc
Nov 21 16:23:25 <pfn> plus all of the kooky manifest overlaying
Nov 21 16:24:06 <subliun> the implicit conversions work just fine for me using sqlbrite
Nov 21 16:24:10 <autrilla> Okay, my project only uses retrofit, twitter's and facebook's sdk, and the google sign in thing
Nov 21 16:24:11 <pfn> subliun, like I said, I barely using rx
Nov 21 16:24:21 <autrilla> (by the way, the code is a mess already)
Nov 21 16:24:38 <subliun> pfn: bit harsh to say it sucks then eh
Nov 21 16:24:52 <pfn> I said rx.scala sucks, it does
Nov 21 16:25:02 <pfn> all the implicit conversions fuck type  inference
Nov 21 16:25:27 <pfn> it's generally poorly written
Nov 21 16:26:02 <subliun> just use them explicitly
Nov 21 16:27:12 <subliun> regardless it doesn't affect me at all
Nov 21 16:27:13 <autrilla> Also, what the heck is wrong with twitter? They say // Note: Your consumer key and secret should be obfuscated in your source code before shipping. - what? Even if I obfuscate it, it's public.
Nov 21 16:27:42 <pfn> autrilla, yeah, meaningless
Nov 21 16:27:49 <subliun> two conversions in my whole project
Nov 21 16:27:54 <pfn> just knee-jerk pseudo security
Nov 21 16:28:01 <autrilla> heh
Nov 21 16:28:25 <pfn> as schneier likes to say, security theater
Nov 21 16:28:32 <autrilla> So, should it be secret or not? If someone cares enough to decompile the app they care enough to attach a debugger and see what all the obfuscation evaluates to
Nov 21 16:29:10 <pfn> it should be relatively secret
Nov 21 16:29:46 <autrilla> Afaik it'd only allow people to generate twitter auth tokens in my name
Nov 21 16:29:50 <autrilla> Not really a big issue
Nov 21 16:30:00 <subliun> anyway, I suppose I'll wait for someone knowledgeable to show up
Nov 21 16:30:04 <pfn> and count against any. api usage limits, if applicable
Nov 21 16:30:05 <subliun> there isn't an rx channel is there?
Nov 21 16:30:22 <pfn> subliun, the general rule is always ask your question
Nov 21 16:30:30 <pfn> no polling
Nov 21 16:30:37 <pfn> bad netiquette
Nov 21 16:31:06 <subliun> anybody who is against polling here?
Nov 21 16:31:24 <subliun> ;)
Nov 21 16:31:45 * pfn tosses on ignore list
Nov 21 16:31:46 <autrilla> Okay, well, this is what I have: https://gist.github.com/autrilla/f696630a9f2f9277379e. I already find it quite messy, Google, Twitter and Facebook all have different styles for their OAuth stuff
Nov 21 16:31:51 <Mavrik> subliun, if you're incapable of asking a proper question you will not get an answer.
Nov 21 16:32:05 <Mavrik> Do learn some basic etiquette :/
Nov 21 16:32:28 <subliun> I need an operator that blocks until the first value comes through, then operates as a normal observable
Nov 21 16:32:41 <subliun> I've already said this, but I can rephrase it as a question if it would help
Nov 21 16:32:53 <Mavrik> blocks the subscription?
Nov 21 16:33:15 <subliun> blocks the thread on which subscribe is called
Nov 21 16:33:35 <Mavrik> hrmf
Nov 21 16:33:35 <autrilla> If anyone has any tips on how to make my stuff less messy, I'd really welcome them
Nov 21 16:33:39 <subliun> basically I'm trying to stop the view from being drawn before it's initialised
Nov 21 16:33:49 <g00s> subliun how experienced with rx are you in general? thats an unusual request
Nov 21 16:34:06 <g00s> might have to think about it differently
Nov 21 16:34:09 <pfn> yuck
Nov 21 16:34:27 <subliun> I know it's unusual, which is probably an indication that I'm doing something wrong
Nov 21 16:34:35 <subliun> but it's 3am and the first solution I thought of
Nov 21 16:36:19 <subliun> g00s: I'm using sql brite to fetch information from the db as an observable
Nov 21 16:36:39 * pfn goes on a quest to replace all the png drawable icons throughout his apps
Nov 21 16:36:46 <Mavrik> Hrmf, blocking the subscribe() goes pretty much against how the RxJava is built, so I don't think there's a prebuilt operator for that.
Nov 21 16:36:46 <g00s> the whole pt of rx is abstracting away the concurrency, stuff is pushed to you whenever
Nov 21 16:36:47 <subliun> this is great, because it means my view initialisation code and view update code is the same
Nov 21 16:36:58 <Mavrik> subliun, I usually just call "setVisible(true)" in the first result.
Nov 21 16:37:02 <pfn> g00s, and as far as I've read, toolbar icons are not tinted automatically, just white list icons
Nov 21 16:37:05 <g00s> pfn lol wabbit hunting
Nov 21 16:37:12 <Mavrik> But that depends on what your view is.
Nov 21 16:37:23 <subliun> an avatar
Nov 21 16:37:25 <pfn> g00s, it's nice
Nov 21 16:37:34 <g00s> pfn so i should keep my black / white ones for bright / dark theme then ?
Nov 21 16:38:05 <subliun> Mavrik: I've considered that, but it creates an unpleasant flashing effect as the data is loaded in quickly after the view is created empty
Nov 21 16:38:08 <autrilla> pfn: what's wrong with pngs?
Nov 21 16:38:29 <Mavrik> subliun, also, use buffer() to batch data if you're loading a list :)
Nov 21 16:38:35 <pfn> autrilla, vector drawable is infinitely more maintainable
Nov 21 16:38:47 <Mavrik> Or you'll kill the main thread with updates.
Nov 21 16:38:54 <autrilla> pfn: vector drawable? svg?
Nov 21 16:39:16 <subliun> Mavrik: don't worry, already done
Nov 21 16:39:26 <subliun> I just can't imagine that this is a problem no one has had to solve before
Nov 21 16:39:58 <subliun> I mean, the ugly way is to use .toBlocking.first in onCreateView
Nov 21 16:40:07 <pfn> autrilla, no, VectorDrawable
Nov 21 16:40:09 <subliun> then have it properly asynchronous from then on
Nov 21 16:40:19 <pfn> autrilla, distinctly different from svg
Nov 21 16:41:53 <subliun> wait
Nov 21 16:41:55 <subliun> hold on
Nov 21 16:43:01 <subliun> if I run everything on the UI thread, this should be fine
Nov 21 16:43:37 <subliun> that's not great, because later fetches of data for view updates don't need that
Nov 21 16:43:51 <subliun> but it will fix the problem
Nov 21 16:47:23 <subliun> pfn: as I said, if you use foreach the inference works perfectly
Nov 21 16:47:50 <subliun> which you should be if you don't need the subscription
Nov 21 16:48:19 <pfn> subliun, didn't know about foreach, also somewhat ugly, but makes sense, thanks for the tip
Nov 21 16:48:47 <subliun> no problem :)
Nov 21 16:54:24 <pfn> https://github.com/pfn/android-sdk-plugin/issues/228#issuecomment-158661655
Nov 21 16:54:31 <pfn> meh, hate when people file issues that they're wrong about
Nov 21 16:56:33 <pfn> I should change gen-android to not use android create project some day
Nov 21 16:57:29 <pfn> just use an internal project template, so that it properly creates a scala project
Nov 21 16:57:40 <pfn> instead of generating .java that confuses everyone
Nov 21 16:57:42 <g00s> pfn what do you think this is http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/instant-run
Nov 21 16:57:57 <pfn> g00s, sounds similar to jrebel and protify
Nov 21 16:58:06 <pfn> we'll see what it does
Nov 21 16:58:19 <pfn> I don't see how instant it can be if it's done within gradle, though
Nov 21 16:58:49 <g00s> instant with gradle is < 30 s :P
Nov 21 16:58:53 <pfn> pretty much
Nov 21 16:59:11 <pfn> g00s, I still don't see why you're so resistant to trying something other than gradle, especially when it's demonstrated that you don't even have to write non-gradle config to use it
Nov 21 16:59:40 <g00s> it works and its been getting faster. by muilds are now ~ 7s which is tolerable
Nov 21 16:59:46 <g00s> *builds
Nov 21 16:59:58 <pfn> small app  :p
Nov 21 17:00:24 <g00s> i think what i need to do is get a new router so i can ditch usb, this adb thing is driving me nuts though
Nov 21 17:00:44 <g00s> old router can't reach where i am easily; n7 struggles (although mbp is ok)
Nov 21 17:01:03 * pfn is so tempted to order a nexus 5x
Nov 21 17:01:15 <g00s> pfn do you have a 5P already ?
Nov 21 17:01:21 <g00s> i hear more good things about that one
Nov 21 17:01:22 <pfn> no, I still have a 2014 moto x
Nov 21 17:01:30 <pfn> 6P is too big, imo
Nov 21 17:02:06 <SimonVT> Imo the fingerprint scanner is enough reason to get a 5x
Nov 21 17:02:09 <g00s> yeah wish there was a 4" device
Nov 21 17:02:43 <pfn> yeah, fingerprint scanner sounds awesome
Nov 21 17:02:50 <pfn> very tempted
Nov 21 17:02:53 <pfn> just need to justify it
Nov 21 17:03:02 <pfn> I might if I can deduct it off this year's taxes
Nov 21 17:05:45 <SimonVT> I just wish it was on the front so I didn't have to pick up the phone to unlock it when it's on my desk
Nov 21 17:06:42 <g00s> surprised phone isn't smart enough to stay unlocked if you are at a certain place
Nov 21 17:06:54 <g00s> i would think that would be one of those contextual UX things
Nov 21 17:06:59 <pfn> g00s, it is
Nov 21 17:07:01 <pfn> smartlock does it
Nov 21 17:07:04 <g00s> ah ok
Nov 21 17:07:14 <pfn> I use smartlock for onbody, location, and bluetooth detection
Nov 21 17:08:53 <pfn> but I wouldn't enable it at work
Nov 21 17:09:01 <pfn> only onbody and/or bluetooth at work
Nov 21 17:09:15 <pfn> and that would necessitate unlocking if it's sitting on the desk
Nov 21 17:11:06 <SimonVT> Would also be nice if it had a flatter back, also for when it's lying on my desk
Nov 21 17:11:15 <SimonVT> Kind of wobbly if used without holding it
Nov 21 17:11:44 <pfn> SimonVT, get a desk stand  :p
Nov 21 17:11:51 <pfn> all my devices go on stands
Nov 21 17:12:01 * pfn still uses his clingo that Napalm recommended years ago
Nov 21 17:12:52 <SimonVT> That's just more crap for my desk ;d
Nov 21 17:13:07 <pfn> it's neater to have it on a stand than lying on desk
Nov 21 17:13:16 <SimonVT> But overall I'm happy with the 5x, just hoping the next nexus will have front fingerprint scanner and a flat back
Nov 21 17:14:11 <g00s> there are so many wireless power standards, i hope something converges there too
Nov 21 17:14:24 <g00s> this is going to be vhs vs betamax again
Nov 21 17:15:13 <pfn> yeah, I might just get a 5x soon
Nov 21 17:15:21 <pfn> although everyone tells me the 6P is way more worth it
Nov 21 17:15:59 <SimonVT> Only reason I didn't get it was because it's called 6P and not 5P
Nov 21 17:29:24 <g00s> pfn hmm, this isn't working. i put a vectorDrawable in my project but for a dark theme, its still turning up as black. i thought it would be tinted like the other icons (more, etc)
Nov 21 17:29:35 <g00s> (in the toolbar)
Nov 21 17:29:41 <pfn> g00s, see what I said above
Nov 21 17:29:54 <pfn> ic_settings_black_24dp.xml
Nov 21 17:29:55 <pfn> oops
Nov 21 17:29:59 <pfn> g00s, and as far as I've read, toolbar icons are not tinted automatically, just white list icons
Nov 21 17:30:01 <pfn> whitelisted
Nov 21 17:30:15 <g00s> ooh
Nov 21 17:30:26 <g00s> i thought Toolbar handled it all, ok
Nov 21 17:31:01 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  This is what I saying yesterday.  :D
Nov 21 17:31:08 <TacticalJoke> Well, at least about AppCompat.
Nov 21 17:31:34 <pfn> g00s, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26780046/menuitem-tinting-on-appcompat-toolbar
Nov 21 17:31:34 <g00s> TacticalJoke oh, i thought consensus was Toolbar and a few others like NavigationView auto tinted things
Nov 21 17:31:49 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  It auto-tints a bunch of standard drawables (such as the "up" one).
Nov 21 17:31:54 <TacticalJoke> But that's it.
Nov 21 17:32:13 <g00s> TacticalJoke so nothing you supply; or as pfn says a defined whitelist
Nov 21 17:32:22 <TacticalJoke> Yeah, it's in TintManager.java.
Nov 21 17:32:28 <TacticalJoke> The whitelist is.
Nov 21 17:32:35 <g00s> pfn ah good link
Nov 21 17:33:26 <g00s> lol thats cheesy
Nov 21 17:33:30 <pfn> it is
Nov 21 17:44:34 <ecofriendly> pfn: if you know how to use the NDK, i've been trying to figure out how to compile this app
Nov 21 17:44:46 <ecofriendly> https://github.com/tompudding/pipboy
Nov 21 17:47:48 <g00s> if you are having problems with AS losing focus during some builds, please star https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=194863
Nov 21 17:47:50 <bolovanos> Android Studio is capable of selecting code fragments that are incompatible with min API. This works for single document. How can it be done for whole project? Something like ctrl+alt+F, but instead searching for word...
Nov 21 17:49:15 <pfn> Looking at your C++ it doesn't exactly look like you know that language though
Nov 21 17:49:15 <pfn> Shut up. One header file for everything is a great choice! Like I said, This was just hacked together over a few weekends
Nov 21 17:49:16 <pfn> lol
Nov 21 17:50:09 <pfn> ecofriendly, download ndk, run ndk-build in pip-boy
Nov 21 17:50:10 <pfn> done
Nov 21 17:50:14 <pfn> then ant
Nov 21 17:50:27 <bolovanos> pfn, thanks that helped!
Nov 21 17:51:34 <ecofriendly> does the ndk come with the sdk
Nov 21 17:51:36 <ecofriendly> pfn:
Nov 21 17:52:00 <ecofriendly> and any suggested IDE?
Nov 21 17:52:03 <ecofriendly> i assume AS
Nov 21 17:53:05 <pfn> no, and that was written prior to AS
Nov 21 17:55:54 <bolovanos> sol android lint AS, Analyze -> Inspection - create own profile
Nov 21 17:56:29 <ecofriendly> where do i download the NDK?
Nov 21 17:56:30 <ecofriendly> pfn:
Nov 21 17:56:44 <ecofriendly> and should i try eclipse then?
Nov 21 17:58:11 <pfn> ecofriendly, use google
Nov 21 17:58:22 <Squeegee> It's taking 10-15 minutes to start AS and create a new project/activity. Is that normal?
Nov 21 17:58:46 <pfn> g00s, solution: don't use gradle
Nov 21 17:58:54 <pfn> Squeegee, bad internet connectivity
Nov 21 17:59:05 <Squeegee> hmm no it's fairly decent
Nov 21 17:59:13 <pfn> well, that is the problem
Nov 21 17:59:58 <bolovanos> what does internet conectivity has to with that kind of problem?
Nov 21 18:00:18 <pfn> because checking artifacts is the only step that takes forever and is variable
Nov 21 18:00:48 <Squeegee> my whole system is being sluggish though
Nov 21 18:00:53 <Squeegee> while this is happening
Nov 21 18:01:07 <pfn> then check top or the process monitor of your choice
Nov 21 18:01:26 <pfn> hmm, can I use theme drawables in a layer list?
Nov 21 18:02:44 <TacticalJoke> Squeegee:  That is not normal.
Nov 21 18:03:23 <Squeegee> maybe I should restart
Nov 21 18:03:26 <TacticalJoke> Squeegee:  You have 8GB RAM and an i5, right?  That's better than my machine and I get way better performance than what you described above.
Nov 21 18:03:38 <Squeegee> 8 GB and an i7
Nov 21 18:03:42 <TacticalJoke> Oh, right.
Nov 21 18:04:03 <Squeegee> well i7 from 2011
Nov 21 18:04:17 <Squeegee> but still
Nov 21 18:04:30 <TacticalJoke> I think my laptop is from 2009.  (Jeez, I need a new one.)
Nov 21 18:04:36 <TacticalJoke> Or maybe 2010.
Nov 21 18:05:55 <pfn> hmm, how do I obtain theme attributes that aren't in declare-styleable
Nov 21 18:05:57 <bolovanos> mine is bit older 2008-9 but with newer AS version I am observig sluggish behaviour during background lint check
Nov 21 18:06:03 <rudolf_> Is there a way to add entries to a list view dynamically.
Nov 21 18:06:14 <TacticalJoke> rudolf_:  Of course.  That's what ListView is all about.
Nov 21 18:06:19 <g00s> god damn it. my refresh icon (ic_refresh_black_24dp) is right next to the system-provided more icon, and they are not the same color. refresh is BLACK while more is like 90% grey or something. i guess i need to add an alpha to this
Nov 21 18:06:29 <Squeegee> my whole system is very sluggish...AS status bar says "indexing"
Nov 21 18:06:41 <g00s> Squeegee oh , while indexing shit is slow
Nov 21 18:06:52 <g00s> indexing happens when sources change, deps change, new import, etc
Nov 21 18:06:55 <bolovanos> mouse cursor stops responding, letters are being written with latency
Nov 21 18:06:58 <g00s> just gotta let it finish, get coffee
Nov 21 18:07:03 <Squeegee> g00s, thanks
Nov 21 18:07:07 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  It uses the value of `colorControlNormal`.  Not sure off-hand what that is for light themes.
Nov 21 18:07:13 <Squeegee> hopefully this doesn't happen too often
Nov 21 18:07:36 <bolovanos> suggest function are reacting with bigger latencies than on earlier versions
Nov 21 18:07:37 <bolovanos> :/
Nov 21 18:07:38 <g00s> TacticalJoke hm ok thanks
Nov 21 18:07:40 <TacticalJoke> Or the default value of that if that is a colour state list.
Nov 21 18:07:42 <SimonVT> pfn: Just create an int[] and pass to the obtain method
Nov 21 18:07:56 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, so I can do something on a click of a button and the result in a listview ? What is the method used?
Nov 21 18:08:27 <pfn> SimonVT, so just obtainStyledAttributes(int[] { R.attr.x }) works? thanks
Nov 21 18:08:48 <TacticalJoke> rudolf_:  Change the data set and then say `notifyDataSetChanged();`.
Nov 21 18:09:05 <TacticalJoke> Or `adapter.notifyDataSetChanged();`.
Nov 21 18:09:13 <canvs2321-> rudolf_, have you used a custom adapter implementation yet? such as creating one that extends BaseAdapter?
Nov 21 18:09:40 <rudolf_> canvs2321-, no...I am learning stuff :)
Nov 21 18:09:40 <SimonVT> pfn: Yeah. R.styleable.SomeDeclareStyleable is just an int array
Nov 21 18:09:42 <SimonVT> And R.styleable.SomeDeclareStyleable_attribute is just an index in that array
Nov 21 18:09:48 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  I thought it was pure black for light themes and pure white for dark themes, though.
Nov 21 18:10:02 <pfn> SimonVT, indeed, thanks
Nov 21 18:10:02 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, ok ..thanks... I will try
Nov 21 18:10:57 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  Oh, the "theme overlay" thing determines it.
Nov 21 18:11:34 <TacticalJoke> I'm using ThemeOverlay.AppCompat.ActionBar, and so I get this: `<item name="colorControlNormal">?android:attr/textColorPrimary</item>`.
Nov 21 18:12:09 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, where should I refer to for this method? I am looking in listview properties but it is not there. There is a "deferNotifyDataSetChanged()" in listview.
Nov 21 18:12:34 <TacticalJoke> This is relevant: `<color name="primary_text_default_material_light">#de000000</color>`
Nov 21 18:12:46 <TacticalJoke> Seems it's not pure black, then, unless I'm misreading something.
Nov 21 18:13:03 <pfn>       val icon = Tweaks.themeAttrs(Array(R.attr.qicrChatEndIcon), _.getResourceId(0, 0)) // hmm, doesn't quite find it
Nov 21 18:13:05 <g00s> TacticalJoke i walk away from this theming shit for 2 weeks and it takes me hours to figure it out again (all the attributes and what controls what on appcompat)
Nov 21 18:13:38 <TacticalJoke> Yeah, it's quite complicated.
Nov 21 18:13:57 <TacticalJoke> rudolf_:  It's an adapter method.
Nov 21 18:13:58 <g00s> this is where windows phone is so nice; you just put widgets up and the system themes everything
Nov 21 18:14:15 <g00s> the user can select whatever, your app changes
Nov 21 18:14:18 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  Just tracing through AppCompat's (and the framework's) theme stuff is really complex.
Nov 21 18:14:29 <TacticalJoke> The amount of indirection is sometimes really high.
Nov 21 18:18:55 <TacticalJoke> That value I posted above ("#de000000") is repeated in the material guidelines: "Text [in light themes]: 87%".  87% resolves to 0xDE here.
Nov 21 18:21:52 <rudolf_> Adapters are awesome!
Nov 21 18:22:11 <cart_man> Lest say I have a normal listview and one of the preset adapters that comes with android...in this instance the ArrayAdapter<String> ... No I have my list that I filled in with an Array of Strings. So now I want the background of the one Slot or position to change color when clicked... Is that possible?
Nov 21 18:23:54 <pfn>  F  ( 6207) libc    : Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV), code 1, fault addr 0x20 in tid 6214 (JDWP)
Nov 21 18:23:57 <pfn> that's awesome...
Nov 21 18:24:07 <g00s> jdwp lol
Nov 21 18:24:17 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, do I need to do anything else apart from "android:cursorVisible="true" " to see the cursor for EditText? I am not able to see the cursor.
Nov 21 18:24:58 <rudolf_> This is from the xml : http://pastebin.com/cdEvthYA
Nov 21 18:25:11 <TacticalJoke> cart_man:  Yes, but you're gonna need to go from an array of Strings to an an array of Foo (where Foo has both the String and an "is selected" property).
Nov 21 18:25:48 <TacticalJoke> rudolf_:  `android:textCursorDrawable="@null"`.  Wat.
Nov 21 18:26:29 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, someone wrote on a forum that if you are not getting the cursor, try adding this line. :|
Nov 21 18:26:50 <TacticalJoke> rudolf_:  Why would you need to do anything to get a cursor in an EditText?
Nov 21 18:27:34 <rudolf_> But I am not seeing a cursor. I have set cursorVisible to true.
Nov 21 18:27:38 <cart_man> TacticalJoke: Ok..I am willing to walk that line
Nov 21 18:28:50 <TacticalJoke> rudolf_:  Try putting an EditText somewhere without any of that noise.  You'll see a cursor.
Nov 21 18:28:59 <TacticalJoke> So the question is of why you're not seeing a cursor *ignoring* all the noise.
Nov 21 18:29:07 <pfn> maybe it's crashing because I have a lambda-specific breakpoint
Nov 21 18:29:08 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, I am using this :     <style name="AppTheme" parent="Theme.AppCompat.Light.DarkActionBar"> in case it is related.
Nov 21 18:29:14 <rudolf_> ok
Nov 21 18:29:37 <pfn> yep
Nov 21 18:29:46 <pfn> new intellij 15 breakpoints crash jdwp on android...
Nov 21 18:29:52 <rudolf_> Should I delete android:cursorVisible also , TacticalJoke
Nov 21 18:29:53 <pfn> awesome
Nov 21 18:30:11 <TacticalJoke> rudolf_:  Delete it all.  Stuff like that just harms the debugging process.
Nov 21 18:30:18 <TacticalJoke> You need less complexity, not more.
Nov 21 18:30:42 <rudolf_> Ok :)
Nov 21 18:33:10 <TacticalJoke> cart_man:  On a side note, you'll be better off creating your own adapter (by extending BaseAdapter) than using ArrayAdapter for something like this.  It's way more flexible (and ultimately simple).
Nov 21 18:33:54 <cart_man> TacticalJoke: Yea I have built my own before but I was looking for something quick... just goes to show that harder is probably faster in the long run anyway :)
Nov 21 18:34:01 <cart_man> TacticalJoke: Thanks !
Nov 21 18:36:03 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, I am getting the cursor now but I am not able to select a portion of the text from the edit text box. And if I use textisselectable, the cursor goes away.
Nov 21 18:38:45 <pfn> yay, got rid of most every png from qicr
Nov 21 18:38:56 <pfn> need to convert my own app icon to vector drawable
Nov 21 18:39:26 <rudolf_> TacticalJoke, it is working now :) Thanks a lot!!
Nov 21 18:39:53 <rudolf_> Removed everything.
Nov 21 18:42:31 <grees> hey ! I have a fragment that contains a View (Button) on runtime i remove that view (after the button was pressed) , when i change orientation the button is added to the fragment again! How would one avoid that behaviour? Do i have to track with some boolean whether it was already removed and remove it every time the when i change orientation?
Nov 21 18:46:06 <g00s> pfn let me know when you push the changes, i'd like to see what you did.
Nov 21 18:46:16 <pfn> g00s, they're all pushed
Nov 21 18:46:25 <g00s> thx
Nov 21 18:48:00 <pfn> oh, I have to use resolveAttribute
Nov 21 18:48:02 <pfn> that's annoying
Nov 21 18:52:42 <jamestom> so whats the best sqlite orm for android?
Nov 21 18:52:57 <g00s> probably none
Nov 21 18:54:03 <liuwenhao> Are you building a database from scratch? If so, you should look into realm http://www.realm.io
Nov 21 18:54:37 <g00s> realm seems to be controversial still, use with caution
Nov 21 18:55:00 <g00s> if you don't like it, not like swapping out snackbar library :P
Nov 21 18:55:54 <jamestom> liuwenhao:  i was going to ask about realm
Nov 21 18:56:00 <jamestom> it looks interesting, its not backed by sqlite at all is it?
Nov 21 18:56:59 <liuwenhao> No, it has nothing in common with SQL really, there is a good talk about it on youtube that i'll find
Nov 21 18:57:01 <jamestom> g00s:  i currently have a rather huge application with an all hand rolled sqlite data layer, its dumb, the only problem is there doesnt seem to be a clear 'winner' on android for orm - like most things
Nov 21 18:57:26 <liuwenhao> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGFInG96KH4
Nov 21 18:57:33 <jamestom> if there was a great solution people wouldnt be clinging to raw sqlite
Nov 21 18:59:51 <pfn> SimonVT, Theme.resolveAttribute was what I needed, not obtainStyledAttributes
Nov 21 19:00:29 <pfn>       item.setIcon(if (Config.Ignores(nick)) R.drawable.ic_menu_end_conversation_on else Tweaks.resolveAttr(R.attr.qicrChatEndIcon, _.resourceId))
Nov 21 19:00:31 <pfn> beautiful :)
Nov 21 19:03:20 <pfn>           tv.setCheckMarkDrawable(resolveAttr(android.R.attr.listChoiceIndicatorSingle, _.resourceId))
Nov 21 19:03:21 <pfn> so much cleaner
Nov 21 19:03:25 <jamestom> realm looks interesting
Nov 21 19:03:30 <jamestom> why is it controversial? c++?
Nov 21 19:04:38 <SimonVT> pfn: Ah, yeah
Nov 21 19:07:02 <pfn> g00s, but yeah, all straightforward to go vectors
Nov 21 19:07:26 <g00s> pfn does your build handle the svgs in the project?
Nov 21 19:08:19 <pfn> g00s, no
Nov 21 19:08:24 <pfn> just vector xml
Nov 21 19:08:53 <pfn> I need to convert those over
Nov 21 19:08:54 <liuwenhao> jamestom: i don't know if this counts as controversial, but there isn't a lot of support for it yet (for example, still no windows program to create/edit realms, no quick csv->realm importer that I know of)
Nov 21 19:09:11 <pfn> g00s, svg2android
Nov 21 19:09:19 <g00s> ah ok
Nov 21 19:09:20 <liuwenhao> it seems to be more popular on the iOS side as all of the good realm editing programs are MacOS only
Nov 21 19:09:48 <liuwenhao> and better adoption rate with swift/objective-c coders
Nov 21 19:11:03 <liuwenhao> Another reason I think people are hesitant to use it because no one knows if it will stick around 3-5 years from now or not. just my two cents
Nov 21 19:12:50 <g00s> well, for me its because sqlite is pretty bomb proof. so much work goes into it
Nov 21 19:13:17 <g00s> i prefer less magical things in general though, even when i was doing JEE, i'd prefer iBatis over Hibernate
Nov 21 19:13:47 <g00s> and sqlite has been around for a long time, and has amazing test coverage
Nov 21 19:14:21 <g00s> none of those things make working with SQL any easier, though
Nov 21 19:15:32 <g00s> when users are swiping away apps and system kill -9's your project, gotta know stuff is safe
Nov 21 19:17:24 <g00s> hmm, in cheese square demo, chris banes wraps ToolBar in AppBarlayout even though there is no Collapsing going on, anyone know the rationale for that ?
Nov 21 19:17:53 <g00s> oh wait there is, nm
Nov 21 19:18:20 <g00s> well its not collapsing its just scrolling off the top, ok
Nov 21 19:21:21 <jamestom> cool! i stopped developing on windows a long time ago
Nov 21 19:30:43 <rudolf_> Why can I not access public methods inside a try block without using this.method_name ?
Nov 21 19:31:04 <rudolf_> If I directly call a public method inside a try block, it does not recognize it.
Nov 21 19:31:26 <rudolf_> But it can recognize variables.
Nov 21 19:31:52 <D4v3> Hi guys , anyone know how to work with stagefright library?
Nov 21 19:42:41 <g00s> would be so awesome if the android clock had something like sleepy.time built in
Nov 21 19:45:48 <ktwo> rudolf_, example? it should work usually
Nov 21 19:46:09 <ktwo> unless you are in some anonymous class then you cant use this and should use MyClass.this
Nov 21 19:47:24 <rudolf_> ktwo, http://pastebin.com/9nQ8azA0 but I am using Symbols from an external library.
Nov 21 19:47:51 <rudolf_> Here I had to use this.setCursor instead of setCursor directly.
Nov 21 19:48:43 <ktwo> and setCursor is also public void?
Nov 21 19:50:22 <rudolf_> Yes.
Nov 21 19:55:26 <ktwo> rudolf_, it shouldnt matter, if you get an error post the full example so it is possible to reproduce. Ive just tried and it works
Nov 21 19:55:33 <ktwo> with or without this it doesnt matter
Nov 21 19:56:17 <gordon_> pfn: u2020? do you have any other example of it with your sbt-gradle plugin ?
Nov 21 19:56:45 <gordon_> I have my project with dagger but it is not compatible with sbt plugin
Nov 21 19:57:22 <pfn> gordon_, plaid
Nov 21 19:57:56 <rudolf_> ktwo, strange...I just restarted android studio. It is working normally now. Anyways, thanks for looking.
Nov 21 19:58:01 <gordon_> pfn: hm?
Nov 21 20:03:39 <grees> how do i get the origid of a image from URI?
Nov 21 20:06:39 <Quintasan> How do I force Android to display FULL date?
Nov 21 20:07:20 <Quintasan> I have a Event class which has Date fields with hours and using DateFormat dateFormat = android.text.format.DateFormat.getDateFormat(getApplicationContext()); yields only the date.
Nov 21 20:20:21 <Squeegee> If I want to move my sdk directory can I just copy the files and then change the directory in Android Studio?
Nov 21 20:22:29 <Squeegee> I'll know in a few hours I guess
Nov 21 20:22:57 <jamestom> yup
Nov 21 20:31:55 <cart_man> anybody know what color hex code the default Android GREY is ?
Nov 21 20:33:10 <KevinM> I believe Android Studio exposes it through the resource/color selection dialog
Nov 21 20:44:20 <cart_man> asd
Nov 21 20:44:47 <cart_man> g00s: Yo you here?
Nov 21 20:45:08 <cart_man> That friend of your who you think might have some Gimbal experience.. is he here?
Nov 21 20:45:45 <cart_man> Ok soo ... Does anybody know if there is an easier way to access the Parent class variables from a Dialog ?
Nov 21 20:45:57 <g00s> ron is not here
Nov 21 20:47:00 <g00s> cart_man just set a address book event for ron_frown :P
Nov 21 20:47:20 <cart_man> g00s: Whoaa address whaat?
Nov 21 20:47:28 <cart_man> IRC has stuff like that?
Nov 21 20:47:35 <g00s> a decent irc client does
Nov 21 20:47:45 * g00s uses Textual
Nov 21 20:48:00 <cart_man> Oh shit no I am using the online free node client in a browser... The Clients tend to DC waaaaaay more
Nov 21 20:48:12 <cart_man> and doing the /msg nickserv thing everytime on logon drives me nuts
Nov 21 20:48:40 <bolovanos> I am tring to set "mListView.setMultiChoiceModeListener(multiChoiceModeListener());" and coloring selected items in ListView trough selectors "android:state_checked". Program collide in overriden onItemCheckedStateChanged(...) method at "mListView.setItemChecked(position, checked);". Stack output http://pastebin.com/u7e3H9jN
Nov 21 20:49:28 <bolovanos> anyone using setMultiChoiceModeListene() http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/menus.html#CAB and having some clue to this?
Nov 21 20:59:13 <bolovanos> TacticalJoke, hi - do you have exp. with  http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/menus.html#CAB ?
Nov 21 21:01:03 <TacticalJoke> bolovanos:  It's best to ask (everyone) the actual question.
Nov 21 21:01:47 <bolovanos> TacticalJoke, I did, but you have connected after that
Nov 21 21:02:42 <bolovanos> TacticalJoke, and honestly you were one of the most helpful
Nov 21 21:04:16 <g00s> :)
Nov 21 21:08:41 <pfn> gordon_, sbt does nothing inherently incompatible with dagger, as demoed
Nov 21 21:09:06 <pfn> gordon_, u2020 proves that
Nov 21 21:10:00 <bolovanos> earlier I have found solution here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10598348/multiple-selection-in-custom-listview-with-cab, I have something similar to suggested solution on my mind, but doing it through selectors seemd to me more straightforward
Nov 21 21:12:01 <bolovanos> "The call to setItemChecked will result in StackOverflowError because calling setItemChecked in onItemCheckedStateChanged will be just calling each other infinitely" stackoverflow.com/questions/9268219/selected-item-on-custom-listview-with-contextual-action-bar
Nov 21 21:12:01 <bolovanos> mm
Nov 21 21:14:55 <TacticalJoke> bolovanos:  I guess you're calling AbsListView.setItemChecked in AbsListView.MultiChoiceModeListener.onItemCheckedStateChanged.
Nov 21 21:16:37 <TacticalJoke> If so, that'd explain the StackOverflowError.
Nov 21 21:18:27 <bolovanos> TacticalJoke, yes I am, they suggest "android:background="?android:attr/activatedBackgroundIndicator" - going "hack" xml
Nov 21 21:24:54 <bolovanos> but I am not sure that it is what am I looking for - listView + background defined by selector + CAB
Nov 21 21:26:15 <bolovanos> "Add this to the XML for individual ListView items - not sure what does he mean by "individual ListView items"
Nov 21 21:27:32 <TacticalJoke> That's the Views that the adapter produces.
Nov 21 21:28:38 <TacticalJoke> The ones that end up being children of the ListView.
Nov 21 21:29:52 <g00s> imagine being a child of listview ... like children of the damned
Nov 21 21:30:05 <bolovanos> the one where I adressed those selectors "android:background="@drawable/touch_color""
Nov 21 21:30:41 <TacticalJoke> haha
Nov 21 21:30:53 <cart_man> TacticalJoke: Do you know anybody who knows Gimbal SDK ? Just asking around cause I have implemented it but it does not seem to do anything
Nov 21 21:31:46 <cart_man> TacticalJoke: Also.. Is there an easier way  to send data from a Dialog to its Parent who spawned it ?
Nov 21 21:32:25 <TacticalJoke> bolovanos:  This whole thing is actually a little complicated.  The value of `?android:attr/activatedBackgroundIndicator` is a state list (I think) that shows transparency by default and something else when it's clicked.  It's not any old drawable.
Nov 21 21:32:45 <TacticalJoke> cart_man:  The listener pattern is ideal for that.
Nov 21 21:33:43 <cart_man> Hmm ok but I am going to need some direction into that though... I have a setPositiveButton Click listener available ?
Nov 21 21:34:21 <cart_man> TacticalJoke: I see...registered objects
Nov 21 21:34:35 <bolovanos> TacticalJoke, setting "android:background="?android:attr/activatedBackgroundIndicator"" cuts me off from my former background definition with selectors "android:background="@drawable/touch_color""
Nov 21 21:36:24 <bolovanos> TacticalJoke, "little complicated" - yes may I say google way? Because their "That's it" from their tutorial http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/menus.html#CAB is like stopping sentence in right in the middle and keep smiling in somewhere in the background.
Nov 21 21:37:21 <bolovanos> ups must be infected with the InVirus
Nov 21 21:37:49 <TacticalJoke> That tutorial is pretty bad, AFAIR.  Not a single mention of `?android:attr/activatedBackgroundIndicator` or anything like it.
Nov 21 21:38:08 <TacticalJoke> I remember seeing that as an Android noob and feeling hopeless when I couldn't get it to work.  I ended up finding out the real answer via StackOverflow.
Nov 21 21:40:02 <canvs2321-> TacticalJoke, set drawSelectorOnTop and don't set a background to the listview item and it'll show the selectors when the multi choice mode is set using the default listview selectors
Nov 21 21:40:20 <canvs2321-> don't set selector on listview item*
Nov 21 21:41:04 <bolovanos> TacticalJoke, trying to find some more on this toppic - be honest - functional solution would be sufficient
Nov 21 21:41:32 <gordon_> pfn: yes, but it works when I compile it with gradle but doesnt with sbt
Nov 21 21:41:42 <TacticalJoke> canvs2321-:  What is that in response to?
Nov 21 21:41:49 <bolovanos> canvs2321-, mmm let crunch what have just written
Nov 21 21:41:49 <gordon_> maybe bug when using apt plugin ?
Nov 21 21:43:59 <bolovanos> canvs2321-, and what if I need custom selectors?
Nov 21 21:46:51 <canvs2321-> you'd be best to drawSelectorOntop to false and setup selection state with your adapter and an object for your data that has isSelected bool
Nov 21 21:47:13 <canvs2321-> and then use a selector on the item instead of letting listview use it's onTop selector
Nov 21 21:47:57 <bolovanos> canvs2321-, seems to me like solution suggested by Luksprog http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10598348/multiple-selection-in-custom-listview-with-cab
Nov 21 21:48:19 <bolovanos> canvs2321-, if I am not wrong
Nov 21 21:49:02 <canvs2321-> that looks like a good start
Nov 21 21:51:05 <canvs2321-> just when you are working this, keep the CAB functionality and your implementing a custom selector with your adapter as seperate issues. The custom selector is just to show your color selections, and you hooking into the CAB is a seperate function. So right now you are killing two birds with one stone. So you are on right track
Nov 21 21:53:37 <bolovanos> ok, will look at that closer
Nov 21 21:53:39 <bolovanos> thank you
Nov 21 22:11:43 <AlmogBaku> hi
Nov 21 22:11:47 <AlmogBaku> someone is here?
Nov 21 22:12:10 <AlmogBaku> i have a problem with gradle modules (again)
Nov 21 22:12:16 <AlmogBaku> it doesnt import my module
Nov 21 22:12:58 <Ashiren> :o
Nov 21 22:15:34 <cart_man> TacticalJoke: Ok soo if I make an array of strings and I pass it to a class.. inside the class I assign the passed array of strings to a array of string inside the class and work with it from there? Will that be ok or any pitfalls I should look out for?
Nov 21 22:19:16 <TacticalJoke> cart_man:  I'm not sure what you're referring to.
Nov 21 22:19:41 <TacticalJoke> But I would say that, in Java, arrays are objects and therefore reference types, and so you're just passing a reference (a pointer) around.
Nov 21 22:19:47 <TacticalJoke> The actual array isn't passed.
Nov 21 22:21:06 <pfn> gordon_, no bug, apt plugin is not standard and not imported
Nov 21 22:22:06 <pfn> gordon_, that is explicitly documented
Nov 21 22:23:15 <gordon_> pfn: ok, thank you. i will check it out
Nov 21 22:25:45 <pfn> gordon_, the u2020 example shows how it works
Nov 21 22:27:27 <pfn> man, I love the hibiki whisky bottle, it has the absolute best presentation of any affordable whisky
Nov 21 22:28:22 <AlmogBaku> i have a problem with gradle modules (again).. after i changed the name of the module it doesnt import it
Nov 21 22:39:05 <gordon_> pfn: which u2020? the original one ?
Nov 21 22:39:11 <pfn> gordon_, which what
Nov 21 22:39:20 <pfn> gordon_, there's only 1 u2020
Nov 21 22:39:34 <gordon_> and many forks ;)
Nov 21 22:39:49 <pfn> who ever cares about forks
Nov 21 22:39:55 <pfn> and for that matter, I have a copy imported as a test case
Nov 21 22:40:08 <pfn> in addition to the gist I showed
Nov 21 22:40:34 <gordon_> ok, good
Nov 21 22:40:48 <gordon_> would you mind post that gist once again ?
Nov 21 22:41:09 <pfn> https://gist.github.com/pfn/f31d7dcadaa08e9dc259
Nov 21 22:47:12 <gordon_> thank you
Nov 21 22:55:02 <Insolsence> Guys, I'm making my first android app and can't get the icon next to the MainActivity label to show. I want it to be the same as my app icon
Nov 21 22:55:39 <Insolsence> Right now I have: <activity android:name=".MainActivity" android:label="@string/app_name" android:icon="@drawable/icon">
Nov 21 22:55:58 <Insolsence> My app has the same icon set and that shows up properly
Nov 21 22:59:31 <TacticalJoke> Insolsence:  First of all, are you sure you want to do this?  It's recommended that we not do this anymore:  "In modern Android UIs developers should lean more on a visually distinct color scheme for toolbars than on their application icon. The use of application icon plus title as a standard layout is discouraged on API 21 devices and newer."
Nov 21 22:59:54 <TacticalJoke> If you are, then I guess Toolbar.setLogo works, if you're using Toolbar, or else perhaps this works: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26440279/show-icon-in-actionbar-toolbar-with-appcompat-v7-21
Nov 21 23:00:05 <TacticalJoke> I have no idea, since I've never done it with new Android stuff.
Nov 21 23:03:31 <Insolsence> Ah, I see. Well it's fine the way it is then
Nov 21 23:21:20 <jamestom> wraps_content, match_parent... that seems like its missing "fill any available space"
Nov 21 23:22:06 <Mavrik> What else is "match parent"?
Nov 21 23:22:10 <TacticalJoke> jamestom:  I think one problem is that the notion of available space depends on the container, on the other children, etc.
Nov 21 23:22:48 <Mavrik> Mhm :)
Nov 21 23:22:57 <Mavrik> jamestom, what are you trying to do_
Nov 21 23:23:32 <jamestom> i want a small form with a listview under it that fills up the remaining psace
Nov 21 23:23:37 <jamestom> i got it working, its just weird
Nov 21 23:23:42 <jamestom> autolayout is much nicer
Nov 21 23:23:50 <Mavrik> O.o
Nov 21 23:28:00 <TacticalJoke> jamestom:  Did you end up going with LinearLayout?
Nov 21 23:28:23 <jamestom> yeah
Nov 21 23:44:07 <pfn> https://github.com/pfn/android-sdk-plugin/commit/803ddfba34d0b7d41d57211b3f217e7a6a2066d2
Nov 21 23:44:08 <pfn> mmmm
Nov 21 23:46:17 <pfn> http://ezscreens.appspot.com/view/d9c2/logcat+-p
Nov 22 00:09:18 <ecofriendly> hey
Nov 22 00:09:27 <ecofriendly> can any of you who know how to use the NDK help compile this app? - https://github.com/tompudding/pipboy
Nov 22 00:10:30 <jamestom> lol
Nov 22 00:20:32 <Napalm> ecofriendly: check these out https://github.com/googlesamples/android-ndk/
Nov 22 00:21:31 <ecofriendly> Napalm: yeah, i've already looked at that. still haven't been able to figure it out
Nov 22 00:29:17 <jamestom> realm has no auto-incrementing IDs hahaha
Nov 22 00:29:43 <canvs2321-> ecofriendly, best thing you can do is show the error you get when you are compiling. someone maybe able to chime in with more detail
Nov 22 00:29:46 <jamestom> why does that need c++?
Nov 22 00:29:52 <jamestom> its got hardware?
Nov 22 00:46:20 <pfn> wtf, so I'm trying to use a vector drawable for my launcher icon, except now it's huge, it's trying to render as like 288x288px in the 48x48dp space
Nov 22 00:52:08 <g00s> can you use vector drawables for launcher icons? i see devs using res/mipmap for launcher icons these days
Nov 22 00:53:30 <TacticalJoke> The blog post said "Note, it is still best practice to create density dependent launcher icons in your res/mipmap folder": http://android-developers.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/android-studio-14.html
Nov 22 00:54:32 <TacticalJoke> Never fully understood that, but it discouraged me from using the new functionality for my launcher icon.
Nov 22 00:58:39 <pfn> g00s, well, it doesn't seem to work, for 1
Nov 22 00:58:57 <pfn> res/mipmap is for shit that won't be removed from apk when delivering to a specific configuration
Nov 22 00:59:05 <pfn> e.g. what play services does for their apks
Nov 22 00:59:24 <pfn> play store future update may remove unused configurations from apk when delivering to device
Nov 22 00:59:39 <pfn> and drawable-* is eligible, mipmap-* is not
Nov 22 01:15:28 <we6jbo2> Hi
Nov 22 01:17:16 <we6jbo2> I'm getting an error http://pastebin.com/J3vGccDd
Nov 22 01:17:27 <g00s> then don't do that!
Nov 22 01:18:59 <pfn> oh, it was a limitation of the svg2android have to bake transform into path
Nov 22 01:21:49 <pfn> and I see why they don't recommend this for the launcher icon, it looks like ass
Nov 22 01:23:00 <TacticalJoke> we6jbo2:  Did you try a fresh install?
Nov 22 01:27:04 <we6jbo2> Yeah. everything I've read is telling me to do that
Nov 22 01:27:39 <we6jbo2> I thought it had something to do with running out of space
Nov 22 01:38:16 <timusus> Hi all. I'm looking for some help with a specific setup of Picasso or Glide.. Traditionally these libraries are used to load an image for a known url. I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to configure either library to first make a request to get the image url, then make the actual image request based on that url...
Nov 22 01:39:18 <JakeWharton> You could do that with a RequestHandler in Picasso
Nov 22 01:41:28 <timusus> OK, thanks - I'll have a look at that class now.
Nov 22 01:43:52 <TacticalJoke> When I refer to `R.style.Widget_AppCompat_ProgressBar_Horizontal` in Java code, I get a warning that it's a private resource.  There's no problem referring to `@style/Widget.AppCompat.ProgressBar.Horizontal` in XML, though.  What's the difference?
Nov 22 01:46:41 <TacticalJoke> I'm guessing the warning is wrong.  I get the same for `R.style.Theme_AppCompat_NoActionBar`.
Nov 22 01:47:15 <timusus> Yeah, I think that warning is a little flakey. Sometimes i have resources with the same name as appcompat resources, and I get the private access warning.
Nov 22 01:47:39 <TacticalJoke> Yeah, I had that.  Even if I specified the "override" thing I had problems.  Annoying.
Nov 22 01:49:49 <g00s> TacticalJoke in the alarm clock, you can add multiple countdown timers. when you do that, its like a vertical viewpager. do you know how that would be implemented ?
Nov 22 01:50:25 <timusus> So, I've been avoiding Picasso for this particular project for a long time, because I have a fairly specific custom implementation with image retrieval, and I just don't know how I'd achieve it with Picasso.. I've written a fairly comprehensive custom image loader, but I really miss a lot of the great features of Picasso, and mine pales in comparison.
Nov 22 01:51:07 <timusus> Anyway, I just want to know if it's straight forward to wrangle picasso so that it can load images by first retreiving a url (which I now know I can use request handler for)
Nov 22 01:51:30 <timusus> And also, the user has the option to replace images with locally stored images, as well as images from the media store.
Nov 22 01:51:31 <TacticalJoke> g00s:  Oh, that's neat.  No idea.
Nov 22 01:52:05 <TacticalJoke> That's a good-looking app.
Nov 22 01:52:18 <g00s> yeah google alarm clock is very pretty
Nov 22 01:52:34 <g00s> very functional too, one of the better designed apps i have seen
Nov 22 01:52:39 <g00s> almost no chrome
Nov 22 01:53:10 <timusus> So.. is it non-trivial to have swap a cached image in Picasso with another image? For example, swap an image that was downloaded from the net with a local gallery image?
Nov 22 01:53:28 <g00s> timusus you would probably have to ask JakeWharton :D
Nov 22 01:53:56 <timusus> I've been back and forth on this issue for years, literally.
Nov 22 01:54:43 <timusus> It's a tough one. I think Picasso is designed to just work out of the box, and it's incredibly simple to use. But once I get into that advanced use case, I just get lost.
Nov 22 01:55:36 <timusus> So for all my simple work projects, I use Picasso and don't have a problem. But my own personal app, a music player, I just can't seem to wrangle a 3rd party library.. And my custom image loader leaves a lot to be desired
Nov 22 01:57:56 <timusus> JakeWharton, do you mind just pointing me in the right direction for a rather specific setup of Picasso?
Nov 22 01:58:01 <TacticalJoke> timusus:  I know what you mean; I too ended up rolling my own (mainly because I wanted download progress and some other stuff {which I can't remember right now}).
Nov 22 01:59:08 <timusus> Yeah, the thing is, most apps that use image loading already have a url by the time their models are retrieved. For me, the models are populated based on music in the mediastore. Then a http request gets the image url. Then the image url is used to load an image
Nov 22 01:59:18 <TacticalJoke> If I get another 21+ device I think I'll go with `minSdkVersion 21`.
Nov 22 01:59:23 <timusus> But users also have the option to change their artwork with something locally stored, or use a different source
Nov 22 01:59:34 <timusus> That's where I get stuck with Picasso
Nov 22 02:09:22 <TacticalJoke> Hmm, there's no way to set `android:maxHeight` for a ProgressBar in Java code.
Nov 22 02:09:32 <TacticalJoke> There goes my "anything you can do in XML, you can do in Java" notion.
Nov 22 02:10:14 <timusus> TacticalJoke no way man. That notion holds true.
Nov 22 02:10:41 <pfn> g00s, you could. implement that with a snapping list or recyclerview
Nov 22 02:11:07 <TacticalJoke> The evidence: Ctrl+F "maxheight" on <https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base.git/+/master/core/java/android/widget/ProgressBar.java>.
Nov 22 02:12:20 <timusus> ProgressBar is a view, and maxHeight is usually a ViewGroup thing, right?
Nov 22 02:12:20 <TacticalJoke> Annoying, because this is the only place in my adapter code where I use layout inflation.  Was hoping to get rid of it completely.
Nov 22 02:13:04 <TacticalJoke> ProgressBar, ImageView, and TextView respect `android:maxHeight`.  Not sure about anything else.
Nov 22 02:14:48 <TacticalJoke> `android:minHeight`, on the other hand, is a View thing: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html#attr_android:minHeight
Nov 22 02:15:04 <timusus> TIL. I always bandy that one about 'if it can be done in xml...'
Nov 22 02:15:55 <TacticalJoke> Although ProgressBar seems to ignore View.setMinimumHeight calls.
Nov 22 02:15:59 <TacticalJoke> Yeah, I said that once in here.  :\
Nov 22 02:18:58 <pfn> you could always set it reflectivity, as shitty as. that is
Nov 22 02:43:01 <b4b> can logcat display stderr from an ndk library?
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