**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 28 03:00:48 2015 Nov 28 04:00:00 hello Nov 28 04:00:15 *evil music plays* Nov 28 04:00:17 Hi, Agamemnus. Nov 28 04:00:31 hey, if someone wants a java job, is there a channel for that??? Nov 28 04:01:21 also, is that considered advertising if I mention that someone on reddit needs a java job? Nov 28 04:01:37 I mean, it's so vague, so it can hardly be advertising Nov 28 04:01:39 "no advertising please, jobs or otherwise" applies in here Nov 28 04:01:56 but it's not advertising a job, right?... Nov 28 04:02:19 in any case, do you know a channel specifically for android/java jobs? Nov 28 04:02:28 actually maybe I should just point the guy to a subreddit Nov 28 04:03:12 I'm pretty sure there is no channel for android/java jobs Nov 28 04:03:42 kk Nov 28 04:03:42 there are lots of websites for that sort of thing Nov 28 04:04:00 so, how are you guys Nov 28 04:04:05 i haven't been here in a while Nov 28 04:04:08 cpjobs.com for example... Nov 28 04:04:10 and deaths/births to report? Nov 28 04:04:44 still doing your thang? Nov 28 04:05:17 *crickets* Nov 28 04:06:50 g00s is still alive Nov 28 04:06:52 that's great Nov 28 04:24:07 Was just thinking that my life has changed a lot since you were last in here, Agamemnus. And yet I probably seem the same. A consistent interface but changeable implementation details. Nov 28 04:31:59 I see, I see Nov 28 04:33:54 As far as I know, though, everyone has survived. Nov 28 04:35:00 That is great. I haven't coded seriously in a while, if you wanted to know Nov 28 04:35:41 (mostly just trading stocks now.) Nov 28 04:37:54 Is it possible to change the design of an app to the older, non-material style (ie. android 4.x style) when building an application? Nov 28 04:39:57 francium: Yes, by setting the theme to Theme.Holo or a derivative (and using Activity rather than AppCompatActivity). Nov 28 04:40:58 TacticalJoke, thank you Nov 28 04:42:40 wow apress ebooks are $10 for the sale Nov 28 04:45:22 i'll probably get dave smith's book http://www.apress.com/mobile/android/9781484204764?gtmf=c Nov 28 04:45:49 "Dave Smith" is such a generic name. Nov 28 04:47:08 Agent Smith :) Nov 28 04:49:23 hey g00s_ Nov 28 04:49:29 do you still have me on ignore? Nov 28 04:50:22 same ol' Nov 28 04:50:24 later Nov 28 04:59:39 TacticalJoke: genymotion is kinda weird sometimes I get connection timeout for some image Nov 28 05:03:16 horny-sama have you tried consulting their customer service ? :P Nov 28 05:03:34 g00s_: that's no customer service Nov 28 05:03:47 is like try to consult google on AS Nov 28 05:04:00 *there Nov 28 05:05:05 horny-sama why not use official emu then? Nov 28 05:05:31 g00s_: when they make a window x86 version I will Nov 28 05:05:35 budge amd cpu issue Nov 28 05:06:01 I mainly use devices, personally. Nov 28 05:06:14 After the latest news, I'm hoping the emulator will eventually not suck. Nov 28 05:08:21 TacticalJoke: emulator will always suck Nov 28 05:08:31 TacticalJoke my luck each instance will take 2G memory Nov 28 05:08:43 g00s_: Yeah, I wondered about that. Nov 28 05:08:58 "Fast" and "light" aren't perfectly correlated. Nov 28 05:09:47 main bummer with google emus is haxm, that thing is a piece of crap Nov 28 05:09:59 i hear people have problems on both mac and windows Nov 28 05:10:21 i eventually uninstalled it for genymotion because it was destabilizing my machine too Nov 28 05:12:43 the emulator not running great on my ubuntu machine too Nov 28 05:12:52 fyi, I have amd athlon x4 860k Nov 28 05:12:55 8gb of ram Nov 28 05:13:40 this is neat ! https://github.com/zach-klippenstein/adbfs Nov 28 05:15:24 g00s_: you run genymotion too? Nov 28 05:15:43 no, not any more. its not free if your app is commercial Nov 28 05:15:55 g00s_: like they will know Nov 28 05:15:56 lol Nov 28 05:16:06 then what do you run Nov 28 05:16:10 device Nov 28 05:16:32 plus my project is for myself Nov 28 05:16:47 trying to create a visual novel that will hopefully wake up some sheepie Nov 28 05:18:42 Sheeple? Nov 28 05:20:02 TacticalJoke: it is a term coined by concern citizens to describe people who won't acknowledge the dark nature of gov Nov 28 05:20:07 like project mk ultra Nov 28 05:20:25 "The study cannot confirm that high levels of THC in cannabis cause changes to white matter. As Dazzan notes, it is may be that people with damaged white matter are more likely to smoke skunk in the first place. " lol, obligatory correlation != causation but, hahaha Nov 28 05:20:27 Yeah, but you typed "sheepie", so I was verifying. Nov 28 05:20:56 made a spelling mistake Nov 28 05:20:57 Yeah, that made me laugh, too, g00s_. Nov 28 05:21:17 I want to be like alex jones spreading the word Nov 28 05:21:57 heh alex jones is kinda crazy Nov 28 05:22:38 g00s_: who is crazier people who know mercury is dangerous yet take mercury in terms of vaccine Nov 28 05:22:42 vax science is real Nov 28 05:23:17 but the proportion of mercury to preserve it and the frequency of dose in the west is insane Nov 28 05:23:20 ok you are crazy too :D Nov 28 05:23:32 We can only be so skeptical, though. It takes a lot of time, energy, and knowledge to debunk stuff. Nov 28 05:23:39 g00s_: so you think ingesting mercury is healthy Nov 28 05:23:51 Too little skepticism is crazy, but so is too much. Nov 28 05:24:08 TacticalJoke: I agree, but the general attitude is that skepticism = crazy Nov 28 05:25:26 horny-sama i'm ok if you don't want your vaccinations, but you need to be cordoned off from society so you don't spread diseases ;) (and your kids) Nov 28 05:26:25 it takes courage to speak out against the general acceptance theory like Heliocentrism in the past Nov 28 05:26:56 g00s_: society is share space so... Nov 28 05:27:01 I think you mean 'Geocentrism'. Nov 28 05:27:12 TacticalJoke: I guess too much beer is bad Nov 28 05:27:20 lol horny-sama did you get brainwashed by my conspiracy website ? Nov 28 05:27:24 Speaking out against Heliocentrism would take a lot of courage. :D Nov 28 05:27:35 shmooz: na Nov 28 05:27:46 TacticalJoke: after 100 yrs, it could be debunked Nov 28 05:28:02 there are conspiracy theories and there are conspiracy facts Nov 28 05:28:05 as our knowledge increased, old theories go away Nov 28 05:28:12 shmooz: true Nov 28 05:28:24 but to most ppl project mk ultra is still a theory Nov 28 05:28:25 lol Nov 28 05:28:41 xxxxx-sama: There's massive evidence backing it. It's as likely to be true as anything we claim to know. Nov 28 05:28:58 most conspiracies go unseen or uncaught because they were planned that way ;) Nov 28 05:29:17 shmooz: I am still waiting for evidence that iraq has wmd Nov 28 05:29:21 in 2015 Nov 28 05:29:51 hollow earth theory anyone? Nov 28 05:29:58 should that be the question even ? Nov 28 05:30:11 shmooz: you mean the wmd one? Nov 28 05:30:38 yeah, why is it our job to watch or say who has what and act on it ? Nov 28 05:30:49 good point Nov 28 05:30:52 it's not our right to question Nov 28 05:30:53 A lot of people get emotionally attached to conspiracy theories. They're like wild, plot-twisting movies that hook people in. Nov 28 05:30:56 as ron paul once said Nov 28 05:31:19 TacticalJoke, : ppl need a cause to fight for to boost their own ego Nov 28 05:31:29 I once saw a documentary about some conspiracy theorists, and a bunch of them got very angry and aggressive when data was presented that challenged the hypotheses. Nov 28 05:31:39 It was like their life was shattered. Nov 28 05:31:45 TacticalJoke: yep Nov 28 05:31:54 Which conspracies did they believe in Nov 28 05:31:59 same with any die hard followers of any ideology Nov 28 05:32:07 tell them god ain't real Nov 28 05:32:10 I think they were 9/11-related, or maybe they were moon-landing-related. I can't remember. Nov 28 05:32:14 and they will go nuts on you Nov 28 05:32:37 TacticalJoke: conspiracy theorists change positions often and have many rude awakenings one after another ;) Nov 28 05:32:39 TacticalJoke: I just find that people employ double standard when it comes to conspiracy Nov 28 05:33:11 communism proven to be impractical and no one go calling them nutjob Nov 28 05:33:16 Why we talkin about this? haha JW Nov 28 05:33:22 conspiracy got proven to be incorrect = nutjob Nov 28 05:33:33 drose379: JW stood up against nazi Nov 28 05:33:42 JW? Nov 28 05:33:43 while most good "christian" back down Nov 28 05:33:57 John Wayne, I assume Nov 28 05:34:00 jehovah witness ? Nov 28 05:34:30 no, I'm pretty sure it's John Wayne Nov 28 05:34:31 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses_in_Nazi_Germany Nov 28 05:35:03 horny-sama joins agamemnus Nov 28 05:40:22 g00s_, ? Nov 28 05:40:50 lol Nov 28 05:41:21 g00s_: time to take the red pill Nov 28 05:41:57 shmooz: It is just funny how programmers are suppose to be logical yet some refuse to accept facts like project mk ultra Nov 28 05:43:18 shmooz: you use genymotion? Nov 28 05:43:29 no Nov 28 05:43:39 shmooz: so you use device ? Nov 28 05:43:42 xxxxx-sama: Jon Skeet is a preacher, I think. Nov 28 05:43:57 I used to debate him in e-mail (since he and I were on the C# newsgroups and he lives kinda close). Nov 28 05:44:55 Mercury is very bad for your health but anyone who thinks vaccines contain an unhealthy amount of mercury need to be sent to a mental health institute Nov 28 05:45:11 if only so they will stop damaging herd immunity Nov 28 05:45:19 CedricBeust: well jon skeet seems to be sent to google? Nov 28 05:45:29 horny-sama: yeah I use devices Nov 28 05:45:43 is google the new mental health institute? Nov 28 05:45:52 the easiest way to get screwed big is break a CFL bulb on your carpet and vacuum it up Nov 28 05:46:21 g00s_: that's how chemtrails are made Nov 28 05:46:30 lol, no Nov 28 05:46:40 Leeds: a believer or a sheeple Nov 28 05:46:59 horny-sama: a belieber Nov 28 05:47:11 i was reading the guidelines, i think Canada says: open windows, shut off central air, and evacuate for a few hours and do NOT vacuum it up haha Nov 28 05:47:11 herd immunity lol you mean sheeple immunity Nov 28 05:47:39 g00s_: and drink fluoride (rat poison) Nov 28 05:47:41 water Nov 28 05:48:10 fyi, human somehow managed to survive for ages without fluoride water Nov 28 05:48:28 xxxxx-sama: Part of critical thinking is investigating the evidence on both sides. Nov 28 05:48:37 Conspiracy theorists tend not to do this. Nov 28 05:48:44 horny-sama: you should probably stop this pretty soon Nov 28 05:48:55 Leeds: good point Nov 28 05:49:15 humans managed to survive for ages without food being weighed down by sugar and high fructose corn syrup also Nov 28 05:49:29 With all those new sugars, teeth now need fluoride Nov 28 05:49:34 TacticalJoke: I agree, but singling out conspiracy theorist is also unfair. Just like most die hard fan, most people are unable to cirtical think Nov 28 05:49:48 No I mean herd immunity, as in the phenomenon that's been widely observed and established as fact Nov 28 05:50:16 CedricBeust: do you consider project mk ultra as established fact? Nov 28 05:50:17 I went to the fruit section of the supermarket to buy some healthy fruits to eat - even the dried pineapples have sugar added to them...I might as well eat a candy bar Nov 28 05:50:28 I have no idea what project mk ultra is, so... no? Nov 28 05:50:44 CedricBeust that means the CIA got you already ! Nov 28 05:50:50 CedricBeust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra Nov 28 05:50:58 It sounds like the ultimate fighting game. Nov 28 05:51:06 ah, wikipedia, the source of all knowledge Nov 28 05:51:19 Leeds: you can do further research on it Nov 28 05:51:24 MK Ultra sounds like... stupid conspiracy stuff Nov 28 05:51:30 horny-sama: you're a idiot, stop it Nov 28 05:51:41 I stopped reading at "mind control program" Nov 28 05:51:43 I encourage ppl not to listen to me but do their own research and come up with their own conclusion Nov 28 05:52:00 I listened to Alex Jones talk about how multi-national corporations were putting chemicals in the water to make males lose their testosterone etc. and I thought it sounded like a nutty conspiracy theory... Nov 28 05:52:28 they are dumping shit all over, but its not a concerted effort to do anything but cut costs ;) Nov 28 05:52:48 Ologn: and the member of viagra users also skyrocketed? Nov 28 05:52:56 a ton of chemicals from factory farm operations Nov 28 05:53:30 FEMA BLACK HELICOPTERS Nov 28 05:53:37 Then I took a biology course at college and the professor was studying how Syngenta released atrazine which went into the water and started causing male animals like frogs to become sterile Nov 28 05:53:51 So Alex Jones was right in that case... Nov 28 05:53:56 https://ehss.energy.gov/ohre/roadmap/achre/chap3_4.html <--gov site talking about mk ultra Nov 28 05:54:45 OBAMACARE DEATH PANELS Nov 28 05:54:46 Ologn: conspiracy theorist jsut like all human can be wrong sometimes but to blindly accept things as facts are just a waste of your brain Nov 28 05:55:08 you have all caught the disease! Nov 28 05:55:20 I'm sure the CIA has started a lot of stupid programs. Just because they discuss it doesn't make these any more real Nov 28 05:55:30 Leeds: so is the gov site and supreme court doc able to convince you? Nov 28 05:55:42 CedricBeust: Have you investigated it? Just because it sounds extreme that doesn't mean it's false. :D Nov 28 05:56:01 TacticalJoke: the same ppl who said concentration camp did not exist back in the days Nov 28 05:56:02 I can't remember the details of this one, but as far as I recall there is a lot of evidence backing the claim that the experiments really did happen. Nov 28 05:56:04 TacticalJoke: That's not the path to truth. The path to truth is to withhold belief until evidence is shown. Nov 28 05:56:52 I'm sure the experiments happened, doesn't make mind control any more a reality Nov 28 05:56:52 horny-sama: I don't believe that the Supreme Court exists - it was destroyed by a secret presidential order in the 1970s and all the 'rulings' since then were issued by the Musluminati panel that really runs the world Nov 28 05:56:54 CedricBeust: as long as you believe the experiments happened I am happy Nov 28 05:56:55 I'd have to read into it all over again. Nov 28 05:56:58 being DDOSed by the NSA thanks to horny-sama Nov 28 05:56:59 CedricBeust: Your current position is "I don't know", not "It's false". :) Nov 28 05:57:08 To claim that it didn't happen also carries a burden of justification. Nov 28 05:57:15 No, my current position is "I don't believe until you convince me" Nov 28 05:57:30 I'm just a run-of-the-mill skeptic Nov 28 05:57:37 my position is "what the fuck does this have to do with #android-dev" Nov 28 05:57:45 lol Nov 28 05:57:50 my goal as a conspiracy theorist is not to convince is to provoke thinking and discourse Nov 28 05:58:10 Leeds: coz we are all 4ever alone on a friday night Nov 28 05:58:11 ircing Nov 28 05:58:24 horny-sama: it's Saturday afternoon - don't be western-centric Nov 28 05:58:36 Leeds: even worse? Nov 28 05:58:46 sat afternoon ircing = 4ever alone? Nov 28 05:59:26 it's his honor and duty as a Infowarrior ;) Nov 28 05:59:44 shmoooz: :P Nov 28 05:59:49 Ologn from the other day http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/11/25/457393114/busted-epa-discovers-dow-weedkiller-claim-wants-it-off-the-market Nov 28 05:59:52 nope... this just happens to be a chill-at-home Saturday Nov 28 06:00:18 Leeds: chill at home instead of hanging out with friends .... Nov 28 06:00:24 although I'm probably going to pop out to a retrogaming thing, once I'm sure my new tablet isn't going to be delivered today Nov 28 06:00:36 what games ? Nov 28 06:01:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFrNu8xQXuQ <--- Leeds you reminded me of this Nov 28 06:01:09 shmoooz: I'm not sure, actually, since most of the info is in Chinese - but it's not far away, so I think I'll go and have a look... Nov 28 06:01:37 I can read chinese Nov 28 06:01:38 :P Nov 28 06:01:39 for retro I do MAME and MESS Nov 28 06:01:49 also, and I'm not sure why I'm defending this, I was out with friends Thursday and Friday night, and I'm going to be out with my partner and her mum tomorrow... so today is chilling at home Nov 28 06:02:18 shmoooz: I think this is more retro hardware - presumably you saw the stuff recently about the Nintendo Playstation prototype? I think it's on display there Nov 28 06:02:44 In today's world, being on IRC doesn't imply being home (alone). I sometimes log in while out and about. Nov 28 06:03:17 TacticalJoke: walking and ircing and not bumping into things Nov 28 06:03:17 :P Nov 28 06:03:28 I got a working IRC app written a few years ago...one of the many I put on the shelf Nov 28 06:03:42 bed time Nov 28 06:04:03 I like my pc loud until I want to sleep Nov 28 06:04:04 :P Nov 28 06:07:00 well, that was dumb Nov 28 06:23:39 CedricBeust get a chance to watch all the summit videos ? Nov 28 06:37:36 what would be a good start for android development outside of https://developer.android.com/index.html ? Nov 28 07:05:00 Vainglory, outside of the API reference, even developer.android.com itself is out of date. Nov 28 07:05:31 Ologn: :(.. how did/do you learn? Nov 28 07:05:58 Vainglory, developer.android.com , the sample programs from Google you can download... Nov 28 07:07:17 Vainglory, one book that keeps somewhat up to date is - https://commonsware.com/Android/ Nov 28 07:08:36 Ologn: anything that's not $45? Nov 28 07:08:59 Vainglory, developer.android.com Nov 28 09:34:26 Do you think it'd be confusing for users to have "Login or register" on the same button? The email and password is the only thing I need from a user, so adding a new screen to register seems a bit dumb Nov 28 09:41:32 it'd be best to separate the two Nov 28 09:41:44 i wouldn't want to click two buttons just to register, or two just to login. Nov 28 09:55:22 Vainglory: what would you expect to happen when you click the register button? Nov 28 09:55:49 youtube video with rick roll to show up Nov 28 09:55:53 ^ this Nov 28 09:56:02 if you click the register button it should give you a screen for basic input. username, password, e-mail? Nov 28 09:56:49 Okay, so a separate screen Nov 28 09:56:59 I guess I'll just put it on a dialog Nov 28 09:57:21 it should transition to another screen when you click the button Nov 28 11:38:57 Caught security exception while registering for location updates from the system. The application does not have sufficient geolocation permissions. <-- always the same error. AndroidManifest has proper permissin set, and webview the same. (with android 5 it works perfectly) Nov 28 11:48:09 what kind of java do we use for android development ? se ee me fx ? Nov 28 11:48:29 not java at all. Nov 28 11:48:37 android is not java. Nov 28 11:48:43 it's fairly close to SE. Nov 28 11:49:13 it is java, just not the runtime Nov 28 11:49:31 also the stdlib. Nov 28 11:49:41 or the bytecode. Nov 28 12:30:13 android is java (SE) + framework Nov 28 12:30:17 90% of java but still Nov 28 12:41:00 Ashiren: not really. Nov 28 12:41:12 the stdlib is completely remade with subtle differences. Nov 28 12:41:28 the vm is also very different in performance characteristics Nov 28 12:59:35 yawkat: android does use the Java programming language Nov 28 13:00:06 and that's about it. Nov 28 13:02:14 saying android is java is like saying kotlin is java. Nov 28 13:02:25 it's just different in other aspects. Nov 28 13:03:48 java is three things - a language, a vm, a selection of stdlibs... Android uses the java language, its own stdlib, and a vm which isn't a JVM Nov 28 13:04:13 and may not be a vm anymore :) Nov 28 13:04:31 yep. Nov 28 13:05:04 kotlin uses a different language, the same stdlib and the same vm. Nov 28 13:05:08 What was the dev summit talk about fragments vs activities? Nov 28 13:17:22 Say I have a login screen with some social sign in buttons, and then a sign up and log in button to authenticate directly with us. Would you make clicking the sign up/log in buttons start up a new activity, or would you make it a fragment? Nov 28 13:32:51 Hey, Is the newest version of Android Studio is 1.5? Nov 28 13:34:07 Also, what you think is the best way to get started with the Android Studio IDE? I want to start developing stuff for Android, I have a somewhat solid backgroudn in programming (mostly C though) Nov 28 13:41:52 1.4.1 is stable, and 2.0 is early preview Nov 28 13:42:45 and you could start here https://developer.android.com/training/index.html Nov 28 14:08:32 Hello Nov 28 14:08:52 my Android develop enviroment is AndroidStudio Nov 28 14:09:15 How about netbeans for Android apps developped? Nov 28 14:28:23 licksjp i like netbeans for standalone java before importing, its alot more efficient Nov 28 14:30:46 licksjp) Nov 28 14:30:48 licksjp_ Nov 28 14:33:06 hamsterr: thank you!! Nov 28 14:52:11 Is there a channel for Microsoft Band developers? Nov 28 14:53:12 What kinds of data sources does the ArrayAdapter class accept? Nov 28 14:56:18 What kinds of data sources does the ArrayAdapter class accept? Nov 28 14:56:35 nadav: I doubt it very much Nov 28 14:58:46 What kinds of data sources does the ArrayAdapter class accept? Nov 28 14:59:08 jhgdjha: please stop spamming Nov 28 14:59:55 anyone to help.everyone here know the answer i suppose Nov 28 15:00:31 maybe if you stop spamming someone will answer in time. Nov 28 15:00:42 And if not, stop spamming anyway Nov 28 15:00:47 okey sorry Nov 28 15:00:49 ArrayAdapter? could be anything no? Nov 28 15:01:33 did not get it Ashiren Nov 28 15:02:23 jhgdjha: arrayadapters can hold any list of items. Nov 28 15:03:27 i know that.but the answer of this question is it? Nov 28 15:04:17 seven Nov 28 15:04:25 it supports any data source that spits out a list. Nov 28 15:24:45 Seven seems correct Nov 28 16:15:15 hithere Nov 28 16:16:39 I have a problem with the webview Nov 28 16:17:13 I embed a website which uses webaudio, and after a while it just goes quiet Nov 28 16:18:23 and webaudio no longer works... and the whole audio stream is just gone (volume up/down shows ringtone volume) Nov 28 16:18:27 ActionBar icons - one device, two applications number of visible icons differ (gmail - 3, my app 1) image for screen comparison http://snag.gy/QRBXf.jpg . How is google doing it - is he using showAsAction always - even if he dissuades so in doc? "Avoid using this unless it's critical that the item always appear in the action bar." http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/menu-resource.html Nov 28 16:18:31 can I stop webview from just dropping the audio device like that? Nov 28 16:38:58 Hello, I am currently trying to overlay a grid of smaller images on top of a larger image for a sort of puzzle application, however, I am not quite sure how I could go about doing this Nov 28 16:44:08 Could anyone help me with overlaying images in an android application? Nov 28 16:44:59 Artifex: Have you tried using a FrameLayout? Nov 28 16:46:15 dougjod: I am afraid I haven't ever heard of that, I am quite new android development, would you mind giving me a brief description? Nov 28 16:46:37 You should be able to overlap views inside FrameLayout Nov 28 16:46:40 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/FrameLayout.html Nov 28 16:47:35 I am intending to use overlaying to make a puzzle-like application, would this suit my needs as I will have to overlay a series of smaller images on top of a final image Nov 28 16:47:50 essentially a guessing game with blocks hiding the final image Nov 28 16:48:14 You'll have to play with the positioning a bit, but it should work for you. Nov 28 16:48:34 alright, ɪˈll give it a go Nov 28 16:48:34 As far as I know, FrameLayout is the only one that will allow child views to overlap. Nov 28 16:48:37 Why do you want to use overlaying for this? Nov 28 16:48:49 dougjod: RelativeLayout also does. Nov 28 16:49:13 LinearLayout does too (with negative margins). Nov 28 16:49:24 I stand corrected. Nov 28 16:49:58 ɪ suppose overlap is not quite the correct term, what ɪ want to do is have probably 9 "blocks" hidiŋg an image beneath Nov 28 16:50:48 You might just be able to set the background of your layout to the bottom image, then you can use whatever layout you want to host the block images. Nov 28 16:51:21 Hmm, hadnˈt thought of that Nov 28 16:51:38 ɪ suppose that would be the most simple to implement Nov 28 16:52:52 One moment... Nov 28 16:52:54 əxit Nov 28 16:53:38 Trying to use ExoMedia to play HLS Nov 28 16:53:50 When I pause the player and start it again, it plays from the point it paused Nov 28 16:54:01 The problem is that it's a livestream, so it should play "from the end" Nov 28 16:54:04 I don't know how to do that Nov 28 16:54:38 EMVideoView#seekTo(EMVideoView#duration) seem to just break the player or something Nov 28 17:00:23 dunno, but that's how HLS works, it doesn't skip to the end when you pause/resume Nov 28 17:00:40 dunno the specifics of exoplayer on how to skip to the end though Nov 28 17:00:43 Yeah I expected it to work this way Nov 28 17:00:51 Well I've got a duration which is a long Nov 28 17:01:00 I've got a seekTo which takes an ms int Nov 28 17:01:09 Maybe I should try like duration - 1000 or something Nov 28 17:01:13 seeking prior to resume shouldn't break it though Nov 28 17:01:27 Maybe seeking to duration ends the play Nov 28 17:01:35 I'll try seeking before the end Nov 28 17:02:16 it would take a while to seek though, depending on how good your segmenter is Nov 28 17:21:28 Hey, I am experiencing a really odd bug at the moment, whenever I select the second item in a spinner, the selection is not registered Nov 28 17:22:05 however, if I select a different option, then try the second option after that, it is registered Nov 28 17:22:19 any idea how to force IDEA to recognize 'kotlin' as source dir in sbt project? Nov 28 17:23:45 Artifex: What do you mean by 'registered'? Nov 28 17:25:06 vigilancer, go into project structure and mark it as a source directory Nov 28 17:25:20 vigilancer, or just right click it on project navigator Nov 28 17:25:34 By that I mean when the item is selected, none of the code which is supposed to be executed as a result is executed Nov 28 17:25:56 pfn : after refreshing on build.sbt change those mark disappears Nov 28 17:26:25 maybe it's possible specify this dir explicitly Nov 28 17:26:35 in build.sbt or sohething Nov 28 17:26:42 (the spinner holds information from a web database, when the item is selected, other data associated with the item is then used to populate a series of textviews and imageviews Nov 28 17:26:43 *something Nov 28 17:27:15 Artifex: Try `throw new Error("It worked.");` in `onItemSelected` to figure out whether the code is running. Nov 28 17:27:33 Ok, I'll give that a go Nov 28 17:27:50 vigilancer, it is specified already, dunno why idea doesn't pick it up Nov 28 17:28:03 vigilancer, I'm assuming you're using kotlin-plugin Nov 28 17:29:06 pfn yes, with kotlin-plugin. anyway how to re-specify it? Nov 28 17:29:59 TacticalJo: ok I entered " if (pos == 1) {throw new Error("It worked.");} " into the on item selected, gonna see if it works Nov 28 17:30:07 vigilancer, unmanagedSourceDirectories in Compile += (kotlinSource in Compile).value Nov 28 17:30:39 and apparently that's a mistake in the plugin, it says sourceDirectories, not unmanaged Nov 28 17:31:51 TacticalJo: Ok I tried that, all it did was cause the app to crash if I selected the second item after selecting the first, code did not execute if it was the first item clicked Nov 28 17:32:04 lol Nov 28 17:32:08 Look at the crash message. Nov 28 17:32:19 Oh, sorry, I misread (multitasking). Nov 28 17:32:54 I've never seen the behaviour you're describing. Are you able to post the code you're using? Nov 28 17:33:11 Yeah, give me a second to pastebin it Nov 28 17:34:09 pfn : did the trick, thanks Nov 28 17:34:57 http://pastebin.com/i4fVeQ7V Nov 28 17:35:23 the line of code for the error currently says pos == 0, don't mind that Nov 28 17:35:30 You have `if (Check > 1)`. Nov 28 17:35:41 Just put the `throw new Error();` thing at the beginning. Nov 28 17:37:03 ok giving that a go Nov 28 17:37:31 Ok, it causes it to crash as immediately, i suppose that's a good sign Nov 28 17:37:44 meaning the error is thrown immediately Nov 28 17:38:04 Another way to debug this is to place `Log.e("Artifex", "position = " + pos);` at the start of that method. Nov 28 17:38:27 so possibly the selection position is set to 1 before an actual selection is made Nov 28 17:38:42 and so it believes the code has already been executed so doesnt do it again? Nov 28 17:39:29 You had `if (Check > 1)` preventing anything from running the first time. Nov 28 17:41:02 that was placed to prevent it from running before a selection was made, which was a previous error I had encountered Nov 28 17:42:40 You probably want `if (Check > 0)`, not `if (Check > 1)`. Nov 28 17:43:09 Ok, It looks like what may be the issue is my code on line 80 Nov 28 17:43:29 with PuzzlesSpinner.setSelecton(1, false); Nov 28 17:43:54 when I commented it out, the bug now moved to position 0 being the one that could not be selected initially Nov 28 17:49:11 wow, this is odd, whichever positon i set to be the inital selection is going to be the one that bugs out Nov 28 17:49:26 Artifex: See my last message. Nov 28 17:50:09 Oh right, let me check that out Nov 28 17:50:25 but I can't see how that would only affect one item of the spinner Nov 28 17:50:35 Actually, I don't think it solves it; I just looked at the code again. Nov 28 17:51:41 Yeah it doesnt, because when the screen initialises, the check is incremented to 1 before the first time that if statement is called Nov 28 17:52:01 so the code only runs the second time, which is the intended use Nov 28 17:52:51 I think the only logical solution would to be to create a "dummy entry" so to speak in the spinner Nov 28 17:53:03 which would have no associated data, and be the default selection Nov 28 17:57:01 Artifex: The simplest way to debug this is to place `Log.e("Artifex", "position = " + pos);` at the very start of `onItemSelected`. You'll see when it's being called (and with which position) and when it's not. Nov 28 17:57:15 It'd be easiest to do this in a new project. Nov 28 17:57:54 Android newbie here, how would I check/see that log? Nov 28 17:58:32 In the Android tool window (Alt+6) there's a LogCat tab. Nov 28 17:59:40 Hmm, it says "cannot resolve symbol 'Log' Nov 28 18:00:37 You might have to Alt+Enter it to import stuff. But ideally you'd later enable the setting to auto-import stuff where possible (and it should be possible here). Nov 28 18:05:20