**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 05 02:59:58 2015 Dec 05 03:00:37 if I want to handle when the AlertDialog is exited in any way other than pressing one of the buttons on it (e.g. tapping off it, pressing back button) should I be using onCancelListener or onDismissListener? Dec 05 03:04:40 dismiss sounds choice, as cancel would mean someone pressed button. where you askin this issue similar earlier, like last night? Dec 05 03:17:52 canvs2321-: yeah maybe haha if I did I forgot the answer Dec 05 03:18:02 thanks though Dec 05 03:22:16 Hi, I'm try to make a custom App bar using these instructions http://developer.android.com/training/appbar/setting-up.html Dec 05 03:22:32 but it's not coming out right Dec 05 03:22:34 =http://imgur.com/62wwEZu Dec 05 03:22:37 http://imgur.com/62wwEZu Dec 05 03:23:06 The toolbar is not replacing the default app bar it just appears below it Dec 05 03:23:13 and idea what's wrong? Dec 05 03:24:13 Use `Theme.AppCompat.[Light.]NoActionBar`. Dec 05 03:27:04 TacticalJoke, pretty sure I did Dec 05 03:30:56 TacticalJoke, here's my manifest http://paste.ofcode.org/ECW6i7R7J2ixW4x55fDVRQ Dec 05 03:31:17 AddAlarmActivity is where I'm try to create the app bar Dec 05 03:34:06 Squeegee: What code are you trying? Dec 05 03:34:25 oh I think I figured it out wait a minute Dec 05 03:35:18 okay yeah I made a mistake in the layout file that was causing it Dec 05 03:36:34 still has that strange off white color, though Dec 05 03:41:22 Here are the instructions for running AS with the JetBrains JRE as I found last night: https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/3ve3z1/android_studio_subpixel_antialiasing_on_os_x_with/ Dec 05 03:54:55 TacticalJoke, that guide doesn't make it clear how I associate the menu xml file with the toolbar Dec 05 04:29:15 hello all :) Dec 05 04:29:38 have you built any apps frinfernoo? Dec 05 04:29:56 I'm currently working on my first app dreddyG ;) Dec 05 04:30:03 you? Dec 05 04:31:33 2 or 3 of them nothing major Dec 05 04:31:58 want me to test it? Dec 05 04:33:24 ill use a x86 virtual machine incase the code isnt compiled right and maliscous Dec 05 04:33:46 or bluestacks Dec 05 04:34:56 I actually came here with a question: in my onStart(), I'm using a PaletteTransformation to generate a Palette from an image loaded from Picasso, and then I have a list adapter, which is doing the same thing in order to style a view in the row. the problem is, only one of those Picasso calls happens. if I don't call the one in the list, it works fo Dec 05 04:34:56 r the onStart() call, but if I do, I have to restart the activity to see the effect. also, it only works on the last visible row, until I restart the activity or scroll. what's going on? can I reuse the Picasso call instead of calling it every row? Dec 05 04:35:11 and dreddyG, its not ready for testing even lol Dec 05 04:40:44 screen shot imagure? Dec 05 04:45:44 dreddyG, hold on Dec 05 04:48:00 lol I meant freddyG Dec 05 04:48:09 I'll have to do a video so you can see Dec 05 04:48:47 ugh, I have to delete drawable-anydpi-v21/*.xml Dec 05 04:48:57 can't ship with vectordrawable for notification icons because it breaks moto display :( Dec 05 04:51:23 pfn always so negative. look at the bright side, its not web dev Dec 05 04:55:02 im no professional but i will try to help you Dec 05 04:57:02 anyone is welcome to help ;) I'm putting up my video along with a commit of the current code lol Dec 05 04:58:35 so this is the class with the code: https://github.com/drinfernoo/Cuber/blob/master/app/src/main/java/com/blango/cuber/CubeDetailActivity.java Dec 05 04:58:46 relevant calls at lines 85 and 244 Dec 05 04:58:59 few more seconds for the video Dec 05 04:59:14 https://youtu.be/uwonV2ZcCjw Dec 05 05:03:36 zip file, there's other issues, and I may just be using Picasso in a stupid way lol this one is bugging me though Dec 05 05:03:44 *zip file Dec 05 05:03:46 take me 3 hours i could probly make it happen Dec 05 05:03:49 dammit lol Dec 05 05:04:11 not readily apparent what I'm doing wrong though? Dec 05 05:06:19 how did you record your screen do you have root using asc Dec 05 05:08:03 I have root, but I used Rec Dec 05 05:08:30 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spectrl.rec Dec 05 05:09:14 i have stuff i paid for that doesnt work , at least i think i paid for it Dec 05 05:10:02 play store search isnt working Dec 05 05:11:57 I sent a link ;) Dec 05 05:13:01 whoops lol Dec 05 05:17:49 ugh the internet at my work suuuuucks Dec 05 05:49:00 I've been spending ages trying to work this one out: I have an adapter (class that extends BaseAdapter) and in its getView I inflate a layout and then alter it (standard stuff I think). But I also have an empty in that layout (assigned to colorStrip) that I want to update the color of. I've been trying colorStrip.setBackgroundColor(ContextCompat.getColor(context, R.color.color_orange)) but it doesn't change that view's Dec 05 05:49:01 color. Dec 05 05:53:28 oh never mind - it's that the view isn't actually visible at all. I had already tested it by setting the background color in XML and looking at the design tab and that background did show, but it seems like the actual device is different Dec 05 06:02:47 ContextCompat.getColor(Context, int)... jebus, at this rate, in 3 years support-v4 will be over 65k methods. Dec 05 06:06:31 hello world will need multi dex :( Dec 05 06:10:39 Hello guys Dec 05 06:11:23 Has anyone dealt with this issue with Google Play Services? (The installed version of Google Play services is out of date android studio) Dec 05 06:11:47 *(The installed version of Google Play services is out of date) - just that. Dec 05 06:12:43 IO.delete(res / "drawable-anydpi-v21") Dec 05 06:12:44 ya like every other week Dec 05 06:12:46 I guess that will have to do Dec 05 06:19:25 @pfn are you talking to me? Dec 05 06:19:34 no Dec 05 06:19:36 ok Dec 05 06:19:55 Does anyone know how to solve that issue? the one I mentioned. Dec 05 06:21:31 ranguro, where/when are you seeing this message? Dec 05 06:21:46 so there's a deep link to a fragment in your app from an email or mobile broswer Dec 05 06:21:58 how can I see the Intent that opens your app Dec 05 06:23:04 At the OnConnectionFailed Listener Dec 05 06:23:24 sounds about right. It's not working Dec 05 06:23:41 it used to, supposedly Dec 05 06:24:12 surf2b1 Dec 05 06:24:36 ranguro, when running in the emulator? Dec 05 06:24:47 Yes Dec 05 06:24:50 http://stackoverflow.com/a/30432482/1048340 Dec 05 06:24:58 I tried all the stackoverflow solutions Dec 05 06:25:21 I didn't understand that solution Dec 05 06:25:24 what he was referring to Dec 05 06:25:31 So you are using the latest emulator and Google Play Services is up-to-date on the device? Dec 05 06:25:35 It should be working on Marshmallow Dec 05 06:25:44 Well Dec 05 06:25:55 The error message says that it is not up to date. Dec 05 06:26:03 In this moment Im using the latest emulator Dec 05 06:26:08 on Marshmallow Dec 05 06:26:43 And I'm using the latest version of play services in Graddle. Dec 05 06:27:54 sounds like you're stuck too Dec 05 06:28:10 I forgot, programming sucks Dec 05 06:31:28 ranguro i think you need (in your app) to verify device has version of play services you need, and if not, then redirect to play store ... uh, maybe thats old advice Dec 05 06:32:07 then the user (you) will have to update play services Dec 05 06:32:16 on the emu Dec 05 06:33:53 i always hated this huge blob, and its version dependencies on you app Dec 05 06:33:55 I'm using the emulator g00s Dec 05 06:34:04 no other platform has this problem Dec 05 06:34:28 how do I update the play services in my virtual device? Dec 05 06:36:10 hm seems x86 emu has greyed out update button Dec 05 06:37:34 ranguro: You have to install it. Dec 05 06:37:49 I think I cant Dec 05 06:37:52 https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=189036 Dec 05 06:38:08 ranguro: You can... But I don't think google provides it for free like that. So you probably can't. ;) Dec 05 06:38:26 ranguro: There are other app markets though. Dec 05 06:38:37 ranguro: f-droid is one I am aware of. Dec 05 06:39:19 eh, this is what i hate about android development - google creates these stupid problems by not designing this right Dec 05 06:39:46 and if you depend on play services, like most people do, its a HUGE pain in the ass Dec 05 06:40:07 lets say you want to test api 22. or api 21. god knows what GMS versions are on those emus haha Dec 05 06:42:02 kitkat emu probably has GMS 3 Dec 05 06:43:23 g00s ranguro, Pretty sure genymotion comes w/ GPS Dec 05 06:43:37 no it doesn't ... Dec 05 06:43:42 I think genymotion is one solution. Dec 05 06:43:57 I mean to the problem with play services Dec 05 06:44:05 now that I remember Dec 05 06:44:16 it actually lets you to update play services. Dec 05 06:45:10 g00s, oh, right. Looks like you can flash gapps though. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20121883/how-to-install-google-play-services-in-a-genymotion-vm-with-no-drag-and-drop-su Dec 05 06:46:06 its comically ridiculous, the whole thing Dec 05 07:05:47 Hi, I have a design question, I connect with the android application to another device via bluetooth, and as a part of my initialization, I query the device for it's HW and FW version, but since the connection to the device is done in an async task, sometimes I might query the device while it's not connected Dec 05 07:06:24 So, is it a bad design to branch out the querying of the device into an other async task and adding a busy-wait loop until the device is conencted? Dec 05 07:15:33 nadav, Are you listening for bluetooth events in a BroadcastReceiver? Dec 05 07:22:23 Nope, I have a callback that the SDK calls when the answer arrives from the device Dec 05 07:22:32 (Using Microsoft Band SDK) Dec 05 09:01:11 nadav, why do you want to loop if theres a callbackk Dec 05 09:06:37 genymotion has gps Dec 05 09:06:42 even the free version Dec 05 09:21:27 Why is passing parameters to Fragments through the constructor not recommended? Dec 05 09:22:30 autrilla: because it can get killed, and then restored, and then you dont have those params anymore Dec 05 09:22:35 hence the bundle workaround Dec 05 09:22:37 autrilla, because the fragment manager might destroy the fragment at some time and restore it Dec 05 09:22:47 and needs an emtpy constructor for that Dec 05 09:27:16 osxorgate: I don't think you can bundle a callback, right? Dec 05 09:27:28 you shouldn't :) Dec 05 09:27:58 what are you trying to achieve Dec 05 09:28:42 Not having my activity/parent fragments implement tons of interfaces Dec 05 09:28:55 I prefer passing them an anonymous function Dec 05 09:29:22 autrilla, you could also use a bus Dec 05 09:29:23 them means "child fragments" there Dec 05 09:29:46 danijoo: it is essentially the same thing Dec 05 09:36:31 i have a square custom view, that draws a bitmap of equal size in onDraw(). Can i use Matrix to rotate this bitmap 90 degrees in the draw? Dec 05 09:36:38 not quite sure what happens down the hood Dec 05 09:37:49 danijoo, good point, I mistakingly thought that the callback is called from the backgrond thread Dec 05 09:37:59 so it would forbid me of editing the UI Dec 05 09:38:03 but I'm not sure this is the case now Dec 05 09:38:11 osxorgate, i think so Dec 05 09:38:47 or maybe its better to rotate it once and keep a reference to the rotated one to reduce the computation time Dec 05 09:39:19 i wonder if it internally just uses different coords to read from the texture or something Dec 05 09:47:01 is there a way to let gradle import vector assets automatically if they changed? Dec 05 09:47:11 instead of doing it manually Dec 05 09:49:07 danijoo: not sure what you're doing but gradle should be able to detect changes if you place the output in a certain dir.. check danlew's blogpost on gradle plugin Dec 05 09:50:54 osxorgate, i have a bunch of vector assets i create vector drawables from. Right now if i edit them i have to ¨import¨ them into AS every time to compile vector drawables from them Dec 05 09:51:07 it would be nice to have gradle do that as part of the build Dec 05 09:54:57 should be possible Dec 05 09:55:24 looking for a plugin right now. Dec 05 09:55:55 http://blog.danlew.net/2015/04/27/victor/ Dec 05 09:56:16 also matrix.setRotate(90, mBitmap.getWidth()/2, mBitmap.getHeight()/2); \o/ Dec 05 09:56:17 nice. thanks! Dec 05 10:10:26 osxorgate: You could also try one of the setRotation methods on View.. No idea if that's more or less efficient tho Dec 05 10:11:58 SimonVT: i will try it, maybe it will automatically rotate the touch events as well, which would be 2 birds with 1 stone for me Dec 05 10:12:25 im making a game with a square board, where i want to keep track of 1 gamestate, and rotate the view 180 degrees for the opposite player Dec 05 10:12:38 instead of rotating the internal gamestate, which will be a hassle Dec 05 10:13:20 on the other hand.. it will also flip any pawn graphics... maybe i should just rotate the gamestate.. Dec 05 10:13:51 or draw the pawns upside down :) Dec 05 10:14:00 entering shady territories.. Dec 05 10:21:34 SimonVT: it does what i want though.. gotta check out the internals though Dec 05 10:27:55 i dont see in the source how it maps the touch events.. Dec 05 10:31:59 ViewGroup handles that Dec 05 10:33:54 as in, the containing ViewGroup sees the view is rotated, and passes it transformed coords Dec 05 10:34:00 makes sense Dec 05 10:34:30 Yeah Dec 05 10:34:34 And translation, and stuff like that Dec 05 10:34:50 well this sure makes my life a lot easier, thansk :) Dec 05 10:39:19 Do the new support libraries support AppCompatButton tinting on < 21? Dec 05 11:05:22 Anyone use Retrofit+OkHttp? I have trouble caching requests and using that when a network error occurs Dec 05 11:08:51 what have u tried? Dec 05 11:12:32 danijoo: Well I can set the cache age header but that loads the cache even when no network error occurs... Dec 05 11:16:55 dimitrovskif, you can use 2 different instances of retrofit with the same okhttp instance under it. one instance ignores cache-header, the other uses it Dec 05 11:17:20 and if you get an error from #1, you try the other Dec 05 11:20:13 not very elegant but thats how i do it Dec 05 11:20:24 danijoo: there's no way to switch instances without copy pasting code on each request (unless you do a request interceptor which is going to change some global variable ughh) Dec 05 11:20:39 there is Dec 05 11:23:28 JakeWharton: how do you implement cached response for network errors only? Dec 05 11:23:56 (retrofit 2 & okhttp 2.6) Dec 05 11:27:16 dimitrovskif, you make a request, cache it and skip the cache on future request Dec 05 11:27:30 if there is an error you hit the endpoint again without skipping Dec 05 11:28:41 this can be done by manipulating Cache-Control headers with ´max-stale´ attribute Dec 05 11:29:22 danijoo: problem is, that can only be done as a request interceptor.. And that would also cache POST reqs. too right? Dec 05 11:29:46 not if you tell the interceptor to not cache posts Dec 05 11:30:41 how can i enable javadoc for play services code? Dec 05 11:31:07 I am not sure if "shouldCache(req): isGET(req)" is a smart algo... But assuming my API is RESTful, GETs should be cacheable and stateless Dec 05 11:32:23 why not? Dec 05 11:32:59 if(isGet) addCacheControlHeader() Dec 05 11:33:01 very simple Dec 05 11:44:02 Hi . How can I stop my app from going into the horizontal layout when the phone is tilted? I want the app to work in the upright position only! Dec 05 11:44:04 ? Dec 05 12:19:10 cart_man, there are dozens of SO answers about that Dec 05 12:25:08 danijoo: Hmm where though? Dec 05 12:26:18 google how to fix position Dec 05 13:07:45 What's a better place to ask about kotlin-android integration, here or #kotlin? Dec 05 13:09:12 autrilla, most of kotlin guys went from irc to slack Dec 05 13:09:21 but #kotlin is fine Dec 05 13:58:50 hi all Dec 05 13:58:54 i got android sdk for windows Dec 05 13:59:04 but confused, lot of tools in the manager Dec 05 13:59:09 what should i install? Dec 05 13:59:19 lot of api's Dec 05 13:59:26 20,21,22,23,24... lost Dec 05 14:06:54 guys? Dec 05 15:02:17 Hi, Running a thread when I press a button works, when I change so the handler runs the thread it doesnt work, toggling comment on line 90 and 91 breaks teh code http://pastebin.com/fq5LFhWU Dec 05 15:19:34 DelphiWorld: the newest Dec 05 15:19:55 gordon_: so a build for 6.0 would run for android 4 & 5? Dec 05 15:21:02 md Dec 05 15:21:04 e: Dec 05 15:21:22 DelphiWorld, you usually load multiple sdk levels for testing Dec 05 15:21:51 danijoo: so i should install 4 & 5 & 6? Dec 05 15:21:52 most people use SDK level 15 or 16 as minimal level, 23 as compile level (newest) Dec 05 15:22:05 i see Dec 05 15:22:06 supporting below level 15 is usually not worth the extra effort Dec 05 15:22:15 thanks danijoo Dec 05 15:22:25 DelphiWorld, http://developer.android.com/intl/pt-br/about/dashboards/index.html Dec 05 15:22:32 there you can see what api levels are used most Dec 05 15:22:38 daniele_athome: ;) Dec 05 15:22:46 as you can see everything below 15 is rarely used because its old Dec 05 15:24:14 anyone know of any open source podcast manager for android? Dec 05 15:24:20 specialy if in phonegap & cordova Dec 05 15:38:28 he was asking about downloading sdk Dec 05 15:38:37 afaik Dec 05 15:38:44 I have the newest only Dec 05 15:38:45 gordon_: yep cause i see many tools inside of the manager Dec 05 15:38:53 download newest tools Dec 05 15:38:53 if i'm setting up a slider with a ViewPager with fragments for each slide and a tablayout, and i only see the tablayout and i can change the tabs, the issue must be the FragmentPagerAdapter right? Dec 05 15:39:00 and put minsdk to 16 Dec 05 15:39:15 target and compile sdk to 23 Dec 05 15:39:25 thank gordon_ & danijoo Dec 05 15:45:54 dersand: your saying you only see the tablayout? Dec 05 15:46:42 orbyt_, Yeah Dec 05 15:46:55 It would be nice if you could debug it Dec 05 15:47:05 Like if there is any event handler for swiping Dec 05 15:48:36 dersand: theres listeners to detect page changes, but your original question isnt really relevant to that is it? Dec 05 15:49:20 orbyt_, no that's right. I have some dummy text in the .xml layouts for the fragments, large dummytext so it would appear Dec 05 15:49:45 dersand: ok so how are you adding the fragments? Dec 05 15:50:22 orbyt_, in the FragmentPagerAdapter? Dec 05 15:51:24 Hi all, I just bought an android phone from ebay, but radio seems having issue once in a while, here is the paste from logcat -b radio: http://pastebin.com/YJfN7br3 Dec 05 15:51:30 anyone could give me a hand on this ? Dec 05 15:52:19 dersand: yea how are you adding them to the adapter? Are you sure there being added? Dec 05 15:52:42 orbyt_, It's there now. I removed everything in my main/parent-layout and it appear and i can swipe through. Dec 05 15:53:11 dersand: nice Dec 05 15:55:45 how could i add the sdk to my path? Dec 05 16:03:53 Also, is a fragment or whatever it is "inflated" even if it's not displayed? I have two fragments and inside that PagerAdapter and inside each of them i have a LinearLayout with an id. I'm retrieving that id, but only to get a nullpointerexception when i try to removeAllViews() Dec 05 16:04:12 wow that horrible english Dec 05 16:05:02 I have two fragments inside a pageradapter. I'm setting the adapter to my viewpager, then trying to reach an id in the first argument's layout. It get's a nullpointerexception. Dec 05 16:05:20 first fragment's layout* Dec 05 16:34:06 I have a FragmentAdapterActivity that i would like to add stuff into it's Fragment's layout, how do i do this Dec 05 16:42:41 What do i need to call this: http://pastebin.com/kASjJeyG Dec 05 16:43:35 I also have a ViewPager, if that would matter. Dec 05 16:52:55 what is ~/.android/cache/? Dec 05 16:54:30 dersand: the subfragments have normal lifecycle Dec 05 16:57:50 osxorgate, sorry? Dec 05 17:00:20 cybrNaut, a cache Dec 05 17:00:31 danijoo: of what? Dec 05 17:00:54 cybrNaut, look into it :) Dec 05 17:01:58 i think its cache data of the sdk downloader Dec 05 17:02:06 dersand: the fragment will be created and then go through lifecycle stages. look it up Dec 05 17:03:25 danijoo: imo, it should be with the other caches, in $HOME/.cache/ Dec 05 17:03:44 but what I'd like to know is if it is really temporary.. something I can safely delete Dec 05 17:04:22 how long does it take for devices to enter sleep mode? ive been reading from a socket and sending it messages every minute or so and its still working an hour later Dec 05 17:04:36 and adb says no wake locks are being held by anything Dec 05 17:06:36 so I've written a custom View that draws two triangles on Canvas. I use it in a horizontal LinearLayout that contains also a few TextViews. for the TextViews, I've set layout_height to wrap_content, but for the TrianglesView I set 16dp because it matches with the text size that is set in the theme definition. how could I use wrap_content for the TrianglesView too, and have it use the text size set in the theme? Dec 05 17:08:56 Hi Dec 05 17:09:54 Is there an explanation as to why scolling is a lot better when all my view are not backed by a software / hardware layer ? Dec 05 17:10:08 Even animations are smoother Dec 05 17:10:24 as soon as a turn on hardware layers, I'm losing half my fps Dec 05 17:10:32 Is this the normal behavior ? Dec 05 17:16:13 Hey, is here anybody using the Glide Library? Dec 05 17:16:14 because there is a limit to the number of hardware layers probably Dec 05 17:16:23 go beyond the limit and the performance will suffer Dec 05 17:18:07 Is there any easy way to use fragment layout id's inside the activity? Dec 05 17:20:51 dersand, what do you intend to do with those? Dec 05 17:23:02 saapas, I have two Fragments inside a FragmentPagerActivity(it's for swiping). I want to use the layout inside these Fragments, i want to pass an ArrayList and loop through, and add content when these fragments are created Dec 05 17:24:21 stuff before the 2nd , is ok, stuff after doesn't add up Dec 05 17:25:18 squirrel, what do you mean? Dec 05 17:25:47 to put it simply Dec 05 17:25:49 wat Dec 05 17:26:20 How easy is it to send a stream of the front camera to a web server? Dec 05 17:30:14 dersand, have to say I'm not familiar with FragmentPagerActivity and I don't quite grasp what in your description requires the id's but .. setting it from Activity to the Fragments or vice versa is easy, just write setters. Dec 05 17:30:59 saapas, I only have a reference to the ViewPager and the FragmentPagerActivity, no fragments Dec 05 17:33:09 your question was bad and you should ask a better question Dec 05 17:33:31 and you should feel bad Dec 05 17:34:55 In my activity i have two references. FragmentAdapterActivity and ViewPager. Inside the FragmentAdapterActivty, two Fragments are created. Dec 05 17:35:22 With me so far? Dec 05 17:36:03 why do you have a reference to another activity inside your activity? Dec 05 17:36:17 how did you obtain that reference Dec 05 17:36:41 is ViewPager a class or an instance Dec 05 17:36:48 how are fragments created Dec 05 17:36:58 no, not with you Dec 05 17:37:16 Sorry, FragmentPagerAdapter* and ViewPager Dec 05 17:37:32 I do follow Dec 05 17:38:39 Here is inside FragmentPagerAdapter http://pastebin.com/wsUs4i6k Dec 05 17:41:34 So, inside my activity, FragmentPagerAdaper and ViewPager is referenced Dec 05 17:41:53 okay Dec 05 17:43:51 When those fragments are created, i want to execute some code inside those fragments. I essentially want to manipulate the Layout inside of it Dec 05 17:44:19 your fragments have onCreate and onCreateView, do this work there Dec 05 17:44:47 I need to get access to my fragments views, but adapter.getChildAt().getView keeps giving me a NPE Dec 05 17:44:50 Doesnt make sense Dec 05 17:45:09 perhaps you call that too early? Dec 05 17:45:38 I call it after I call pager.setAdapter() Dec 05 17:45:40 pfn, onCreateView() is returning a View Dec 05 17:46:02 return inflater.inflate(R.layout.fragment_timed_happening, container, false); specicially Dec 05 17:46:15 saapas, would that be too early Dec 05 17:47:07 dersand, so? manipulate it before returning Dec 05 17:47:12 drose379, sorry I don't know, not familiar with pagers yet Dec 05 17:47:43 pfn is inflater.inflate(R.layout.fragment_timed_happening, container, false); Inflated? Dec 05 17:47:54 of course Dec 05 17:48:01 it returns a View Dec 05 17:49:01 better question is why you think it wouldn't be Dec 05 17:50:33 I thought whoever return the fragment has to addView toit Dec 05 17:51:31 drose379: setting an adapter doesn't instantiate the fragments right away Dec 05 17:51:40 Ok, what does? Dec 05 17:52:03 But it works! Thanks a lot, saving a lot of frustrations Dec 05 17:52:07 dersand, go look at some view pager samples, there are many Dec 05 17:57:50 Is this good practice: My parent activity needs access to one of the fragments views in my viewpager, so I created a ViewCallback interface and had my Actiivty implement Dec 05 17:58:15 Then in my fragment onCreateView, just did (Interface) getActivity().callbackMethod( view ) Dec 05 17:59:45 I don't know of a better practise, and that's exactly what I do too :) Dec 05 18:00:27 saapas, you said you havent worked with pagers yet? Dec 05 18:00:51 I'd say the whole thing about activity having to access fragment views is wrong. Dec 05 18:00:55 drose379, I did Dec 05 18:00:59 You're breaking separation of concerns. Dec 05 18:01:09 Mavrik, why wrong? Dec 05 18:01:23 spaghetti 🍝 Dec 05 18:01:33 the fragment handles the views within it lifecycle Dec 05 18:01:44 it's the fragments responsibility to handle that view and noone elses Dec 05 18:01:52 pfn: alright thanks Dec 05 18:02:05 or you get 🍝 Dec 05 18:02:06 Right, but when a search button is hit in my main activity, I need to grab the selected items from the fragment Dec 05 18:02:09 drose379, but more important is the fact (that you think) the activity needs access to an object lower in the hierarchy Dec 05 18:02:50 drose379, then ask the fragment what the selected items are. Dec 05 18:03:04 Don't go touching his views, it's rude. Dec 05 18:03:12 So instead of giving a callback with this view, just get a callback of the entire frag? Dec 05 18:03:30 Plus I wouldnt be touching the views, just checking isChecked(); Dec 05 18:03:34 you can just get the fragment from the manager Dec 05 18:03:41 I cant, cause they dont have tags Dec 05 18:03:43 that's touching Dec 05 18:03:53 they have tags Dec 05 18:03:56 What are they? Dec 05 18:04:08 read the source to fragment pager adapter Dec 05 18:04:22 It gives them a tag automatically? Dec 05 18:04:25 drose379, tags are just strings. Dec 05 18:04:35 Never said they werent saapas Dec 05 18:04:38 :) Dec 05 18:04:51 I just never give them tags myself, unless they are auto generated by the adapter Dec 05 18:05:30 Looks like they are auto... Dec 05 18:05:40 Does this look right pfn: android:switcher:2131558518:1 Dec 05 18:06:05 you read the source and make that decision for yourself Dec 05 18:06:36 The source of the actual adapter? Dec 05 18:06:41 Ok, where can I find that code Dec 05 18:07:48 you can see it in Android studio Dec 05 18:07:49 Found Dec 05 18:08:17 Ok, yeah there is a method called makeFragmentName that returns this Dec 05 18:08:39 So, would it best to just give a callback to the activity of the tag, then access what I need through the supportFragmentManager? Dec 05 18:09:31 I normally just override it to create well known tags Dec 05 18:09:51 and I hate fragment pager adapter for this reason and many like it Dec 05 18:09:55 Mavrik if the x86 emu has an older version of play services than what you specify in your manifest, should it let you update it? Dec 05 18:10:08 pfn, you create a sub class of the FragmentPagerAdapter? Dec 05 18:10:18 you already are Dec 05 18:10:28 Oh, yeah.. :P Dec 05 18:10:37 g00s, that never worked for me, I usually have Genymotion with GApps for that testing. Dec 05 18:10:37 Gah, oops Dec 05 18:10:53 gapps on emu are just too broken Dec 05 18:11:13 dunno. about now, but generating the fragment tag used to be private Dec 05 18:12:05 Mavrik ok thanks Dec 05 18:12:18 basically ended up having to copy paste fragment pager adapter Dec 05 18:12:52 Why pfn Dec 05 18:13:10 because the necessary bits to override were private Dec 05 18:13:22 Ah ok I see Dec 05 18:13:35 is this the correct way to get the theme's default text size? :P theme.obtainStyledAttributes(new int[]{android.R.attr.textSize}); Dec 05 18:13:49 no Dec 05 18:14:04 you need to. resolveAttribute Dec 05 18:19:32 Hey, is here anybody using the Glide Library? Dec 05 18:19:52 ah, just thought up a fix for a bug I have in initializing stuff in application context Dec 05 18:19:53 yay Dec 05 18:20:35 receivers shouldn't cause initialization if the app isn't presently running Dec 05 18:20:45 shove that shit into a secondary process Dec 05 18:21:46 and check process name in application prior to initialization Dec 05 18:21:49 phew Dec 05 18:22:20 Jamal, ask a question about a specific issue and you might get an actual answer. Dec 05 18:26:50 looking at the genymotion site for the first time in a while, i dont see any place to d/l a evaluation copy Dec 05 18:27:13 i used to be able to do it, its probably here, but the sales funnel is strong with this one Dec 05 18:27:33 you need to login g00s Dec 05 18:27:40 adq i am logged in Dec 05 18:28:01 https://www.genymotion.com/#!/download Dec 05 18:28:22 it's hidden i agree, you have to click buy and far below there is a ridiculous link Dec 05 18:29:05 adq wow, thanks Dec 05 18:29:17 maybe they are tired of ppl using it for "clash of clans" Dec 05 18:30:13 adq so, it downloaded the premium one. is that correct ? Dec 05 18:30:35 choose your platform, Download genymotion, get genymotion Dec 05 18:31:16 i think the binaries are all the same Dec 05 18:31:20 ok Dec 05 18:31:25