**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 05 02:59:58 2016
Jan 05 03:00:43 <loke> That in itself is not a problem from the banking side (terrible for the lender though) but would never on its own have triggered any crisis. They are, after all, highly risky instruments, and banks should treat them as such.
Jan 05 03:01:06 <loke> The real problem was caused by commodisation of the subprimies.
Jan 05 03:02:12 <justJanne> Yup.
Jan 05 03:02:30 <justJanne> But those were no issues on themselves either.
Jan 05 03:02:57 <justJanne> Because if you have a derivate based on hundreds of loans, it's very safe — how likely is it that everyone stops being able to pay?
Jan 05 03:03:18 <justJanne> Then you have AIG, insuring impossible things,
Jan 05 03:03:41 <justJanne> And then you end up with old grandmas investing in derivates of subprimes
Jan 05 03:04:17 <justJanne> My teacher called those derivates always "bagged meals". It's like prepackaged food, from the outside it looks kinda okay, but if you ever take a look inside, you just wanna puke.
Jan 05 03:04:36 <orbyt_> @ justJanne and loke bit off topic guys
Jan 05 03:04:59 <justJanne> Yoah, true. But chats dead anyway at this time.
Jan 05 03:05:11 <justJanne> We'll go into PM, though, thanks for reminding
Jan 05 03:05:27 <orbyt_> its dead because no ones gonna ask a question in the midst of a finance debate lol
Jan 05 03:05:35 <orbyt_> but thanks
Jan 05 03:07:09 <justJanne> Hm. Probably. I meant more "it's always dead at this time" though.
Jan 05 03:08:18 <drose379> orbyt_, you ever worked with Palette class?
Jan 05 03:08:47 <justJanne> Anyway, I'm gonna go on standy for 8h. See you on reboot.
Jan 05 03:09:19 <justJanne> *standby
Jan 05 03:09:31 <orbyt_> drose379: no i havent
Jan 05 03:09:47 <drose379> Ok orbyt_
Jan 05 03:13:52 <drose379> I wonder if I can take the toolbar out of the collpaing toolbar layout
Jan 05 03:21:17 <orbyt_> why in the world do dynamically added views not respond to any methods other than textcolor/size etc. Anything like setMinLines has 0 effect
Jan 05 03:21:40 <drose379> orbyt_, do you know if there is a way to change the expanded text background in a CollapingToolbarLayout?
Jan 05 03:21:46 <drose379> Sorry for the seemingly random questions
Jan 05 03:24:16 <the_rabbit> Does anyone know where I can find an open source android project with a proguard configuration file that works for that project?
Jan 05 03:24:40 <orbyt_> drose379: the text background?
Jan 05 03:24:45 <drose379> Yep
Jan 05 03:24:48 <the_rabbit> either proguard is hard or I'm dumb.
Jan 05 03:24:50 <the_rabbit> or bother
Jan 05 03:24:54 <the_rabbit> err.... both
Jan 05 03:24:59 <the_rabbit> yea it's looking like the latter
Jan 05 03:25:30 <orbyt_> the_rabbit: this has some default settings for common libs: https://github.com/krschultz/android-proguard-snippets
Jan 05 03:26:35 <the_rabbit> orbyt_: I can take another look at that one. I did find it though. Again, maybe it's just my lack of experience and ignorance. Thank you though.
Jan 05 03:27:27 <orbyt_> drose379: not sure
Jan 05 03:28:05 <orbyt_> pretty sure you can change the text color when its open/closed but im not sure what your referring to with text background
Jan 05 03:32:49 <loke> Re
Jan 05 03:37:34 <the_rabbit> on another note, I just found another repo I can contribute to. Thanks again orbyt_
Jan 05 03:44:52 <_genuser_> hey hooligans
Jan 05 03:48:02 <_genuser_> y'all don't have to be shy.
Jan 05 03:56:55 <tx2> Hi guys, anyone been getting SSL handshake issues with the GCM servers?
Jan 05 03:57:09 <tx2> I've had it randomly happen on 2 servers (that push notifications)
Jan 05 04:04:20 <the_rabbit> _genuser_: yes, just us introverts.
Jan 05 04:05:48 <the_rabbit> orbyt_:turns out that's exactly what I needed, a revisit. Thanks again
Jan 05 04:06:55 <orbyt_> mhm
Jan 05 04:43:47 <I440r> are touch events queued?
Jan 05 05:22:57 <_genuser_> geez you touch android and it starts paging.
Jan 05 05:23:01 <_genuser_> *android studio.
Jan 05 05:23:31 <_genuser_> do'nt know why google is so lazy that it couldn't write a new ide focused on android dev. instead of using up idea which is the most useless one they could have started with.
Jan 05 05:24:03 <barbs> I think IntelliJ is pretty good, better than eclipse
Jan 05 05:24:23 <barbs> that was the most useless one they could've started with...and they did! :)
Jan 05 05:24:27 <_genuser_> for me, it  takes toooooo much RAM. you touch it and then tab away and it starts paging.
Jan 05 05:24:39 <_genuser_> they could have started with notepad and hit the mark better.
Jan 05 05:24:54 <barbs> you can still use notepad if you want, and gradle for building :)
Jan 05 05:25:07 <barbs> pretty sure someone here uses VIM
Jan 05 05:25:17 <_genuser_> haha, vim/notepad it only cool to talk about.
Jan 05 05:25:24 <_genuser_> I still like intellisense and all that jazz.
Jan 05 05:25:29 <_genuser_> I just dislike intellij.
Jan 05 05:25:47 <_genuser_> the monster that it is. ... correction - the useless monster that it is.
Jan 05 05:26:02 <_genuser_> anybody who was on the original intellij team should be flogged in saudi arabia.
Jan 05 05:26:08 <_genuser_> they don't have pardons over there, lol.
Jan 05 05:26:34 <barbs> bit harsh!
Jan 05 05:26:42 <_genuser_> altho, I will settle for giving their email address to Virender Singh from Calance.
Jan 05 05:27:04 <barbs> haters gonna hate I guess
Jan 05 05:27:22 <_genuser_> haha, I feel a little prima donna'ish going on a rant about AS.
Jan 05 05:27:44 <_genuser_> it's just that my computer actually "literally" stops for 20 seconds or so when I switch away and come back to AS.
Jan 05 05:28:00 <_genuser_> now, if I close everything else... I'm sure it'll run just fine.
Jan 05 05:28:38 <_genuser_> since you're the only one here.... let me ask you a question. have you had to resize a DialogFragment?
Jan 05 05:29:05 <barbs> not from memory...last time I tried to use DialogFragments I got frustrated and went back to Dialogs I think
Jan 05 05:29:13 <barbs> resizing either of those was a PITA from memory
Jan 05 05:29:42 <_genuser_> if I resize it, the contained LinearLayout doesn't. even tho it's set to match parent. and I've explicitly set the LinearLayout to 200, LayoutParams.{WRAP_CONTENT,MATCHPARENT}
Jan 05 05:29:46 <_genuser_> but no go.
Jan 05 05:30:00 <_genuser_> I might just build a custom dialog then. it will be easier, probably.
Jan 05 05:30:30 <barbs> maybe. Dialogs have always been painful...
Jan 05 05:30:41 <_genuser_> hmmm, no wait, when I set it to 200, I see it changing to something really small.
Jan 05 05:31:23 <_genuser_> so then I guess the screen size I'm getting from    getActivity().getWindowManager().getDefaultDisplay().getSize(point)  isn't matching what LineraLayout expects.
Jan 05 05:31:30 <_genuser_> even tho, I think it's fine for DialogFragment.
Jan 05 05:31:40 <_genuser_> I may have to figure out if I need to adjust for dp vs. pixel thing.
Jan 05 05:33:43 <_genuser_> half my code is just Log.d()
Jan 05 05:34:12 <barbs> lol
Jan 05 05:34:31 <_genuser_> to be cleaned up at some point. but for now, lot of info dumping to console.
Jan 05 05:34:42 <_genuser_> altho, I"m sure the .d get scrubbed from the release apk.
Jan 05 05:35:01 <barbs> heh, you'd think that...
Jan 05 05:35:56 <_genuser_> I remember reading that in teh docs somewhere.
Jan 05 05:36:10 <_genuser_> ok, I think the discrepancy between size is pixel vs. dp stuff.
Jan 05 05:36:17 <barbs> unless they've changed it I think you have to handle that manually
Jan 05 05:37:15 <_genuser_> Dialog width 1089 (60% of screen size). when I set in code params.width=200 and then do setLayoutParams() for LinearLayout, it takes up about half of the intended area.
Jan 05 05:37:23 <_genuser_> so if I convert, it should be good to go.
Jan 05 05:37:52 <barbs> I think there's a util method of some sort that lets you do that easily
Jan 05 05:37:57 <_genuser_> barbs: handle which stuff manually? removing log.d's?
Jan 05 05:38:03 <barbs> yep
Jan 05 05:38:16 <barbs> could be wrong though
Jan 05 05:38:19 * _genuser_ googles "convert pixels to dp android"
Jan 05 05:39:07 <_genuser_> well, I see a SO article with a class that does conversion.
Jan 05 05:39:21 * _genuser_ makes a new file in project
Jan 05 05:42:55 <_genuser_> alright back to coding (star trek....)
Jan 05 06:10:16 <orbyt_> Anyone got any ideas: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34602923/textview-inside-framelayout-being-cut-off-and-not-wrapping
Jan 05 06:25:28 <I440r> in onDraw() do you have access to the pixel data that was written to the last frame?
Jan 05 06:25:44 <I440r> i have a textview and i have an array of strings, one for each line
Jan 05 06:26:01 <I440r> on every frame i draw every string to the canvas.
Jan 05 06:26:32 <I440r> when a new string is sent for display the top one is discarded from the array (actually an ArrayList) and the new one is added to the bottom
Jan 05 06:27:16 <I440r> i think it would be cheaper on cycles if i used a couple of Rect's and copied the text up one line (its an imageview not a textview)
Jan 05 06:27:49 <I440r> if not i COULD dedicate a bitmap of my own
Jan 05 06:28:00 <I440r> just dont want to waste the memory if i dont have to
Jan 05 06:31:57 <I440r> im guessing... ImageView.getBackgroundDrawable()
Jan 05 06:34:28 <I440r> but i think that just gets me a copy of it which means im using the memory anyway and it takes the cycles to create the copy every frame
Jan 05 06:34:44 <I440r> better to just cache my own copy of the frame
Jan 05 06:34:51 <I440r> ty for the help :P
Jan 05 06:37:04 <orbyt_> np
Jan 05 06:54:04 <MDTech-us_MAN> hello. I have a small personal app that needs to play an audio file (from the internet). I'm too lazy to make a half-decent display for Mediaplayer, so I put an <audio> tag inside of a WebView. Now, I want to autoplay it. the html5 auto play setting is ignored on modile phones, so there has to be another way.
Jan 05 06:54:38 <MDTech-us_MAN> or maybe there is a way to disable the extra browser security for a specific WebView?
Jan 05 07:07:55 <MDTech-us_MAN> nvm.
Jan 05 07:07:58 <MDTech-us_MAN> found it
Jan 05 07:07:59 <MDTech-us_MAN> myWebView.loadUrl("javascript:document.getElementById('audioelm').play()");
Jan 05 07:25:55 <RustyShackleford> if I were to get a new android phone, what do you suggest?
Jan 05 07:26:20 <RustyShackleford> I liked my s4 and s5. No removable battery on the s6 ugh
Jan 05 08:31:59 <astroduck> Hi, I am working on 2 apps of same name, one for clients and one for vendors, to use GCM in them should I make 2 apps in Google Dev Console or use same app with 2 GCM keys?
Jan 05 08:35:02 <liuwenhao> 2 apps, especially if you are using different package names
Jan 05 08:36:42 <astroduck> Ummm... anyone?
Jan 05 08:36:54 <astroduck> liuwenhao: oh, oops missed your reply
Jan 05 08:37:09 <Leeds> I can see how you'd miss it in all the noise here
Jan 05 08:37:27 <astroduck> liuwenhao: won't using 2 different signing keys work as well?
Jan 05 08:38:04 <astroduck> Leeds: Don't be sarcastic!
Jan 05 08:39:01 <liuwenhao> You could have it in the same app, but imo it's better to keep it separate
Jan 05 08:40:12 <liuwenhao> less risk of crossing the streams :)
Jan 05 08:42:20 <astroduck> liuwenhao: Ok got it, I'll use 2 separate apps
Jan 05 08:42:25 <astroduck> Thanks :)
Jan 05 09:07:14 <frau> hello good morning
Jan 05 10:18:20 <justJanne> Hallo
Jan 05 10:48:33 <loke> hellows
Jan 05 11:35:13 <winsoff> How do I compile linux arm binaries to run on andorid?
Jan 05 11:35:15 <winsoff> android, even?
Jan 05 11:45:52 <Ashiren> huh
Jan 05 11:46:04 <Ashiren> that sounds like job for #android-root
Jan 05 11:55:11 <perlsyntax> Hey
Jan 05 12:33:37 <gordon_> anyone get error like "java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: Failed to resolve attribute at index 24: TypedValue{t=0x3/d=0x42f "res/color/secondary_text_material_light.xml" a=1 r=0x106011a}" when invoking setError on TextInputLayout ?
Jan 05 12:36:48 <joel135> Hello everyone, I'll repeat my question from yesterday. I'm trying to create an overlay window to be shown over other apps. Please see my code http://pastebin.com/DUWwGt44 based on this SO thread http://goo.gl/ntS4ci. I manage to start the service (the toasts appear, text is logged) but I don't see anything on screen. Am I not supposed to see "Hello World"
Jan 05 12:36:48 <joel135> in red?
Jan 05 12:37:25 <gordon_> ok i resolved my problem, thanks anyway
Jan 05 12:38:51 <joel135> I don't see any "onDraw" log message.
Jan 05 12:42:10 <joel135> Since asking yesterday I have tried mView.bringToFront(), mView.setVisibility(View.VISIBLE), added match_parent LayoutParams, and added logging of onLayout calls (showing onLayout(true, 0, 0, 1080, 1845), onLayout(false, 0, 0, 1080, 1845)). I've also tried making the red box bigger: canvas.drawRect(0, 0, 500, 500, mLoadPaint); but I see nothing.
Jan 05 13:05:39 <justJanne> winsoff: link with bioniclibc, instead of glibc, compile statically with everything else, and that’s it. If you want to access the binary from an Android app, use the Android NDK for compilation instead, and JNI, or, more recommended, JNA for access from Java
Jan 05 13:21:24 <joel135> I even tried this complete example and it failed. The service starts, but I see nothing. https://gist.github.com/bjoernQ/6975256
Jan 05 13:24:23 <RobertP_> Hi there
Jan 05 13:27:13 <RobertP_> I have an issue with the default settings for the android system in general, and for ANIMATION_SCALE in special. By default its set to "1" but I'd need it set to "0", i've taken hours grepping through my build environment but i cant find....
Jan 05 13:32:29 <joel135> Hmm, it seems that the solutions I found may not work with ICS and above. See http://goo.gl/rfROht on SO.
Jan 05 13:35:31 <joel135> No, I probably misinterpreted that answer.
Jan 05 13:37:09 <S_J> When did the 9 patch tool become available?
Jan 05 13:37:34 <Zharf> joel135, not sure if wrap content actually works properly with those windows
Jan 05 13:37:43 <danijoo> S_J, I think this was part of the very first Android Studio versions
Jan 05 13:37:49 <Zharf> try setting a specific width and height for the view params
Jan 05 13:38:59 <S_J> danijoo, but it is not in the tools dir
Jan 05 13:39:07 <Zharf> because that's the only real difference I see in it compared to my code :p)
Jan 05 13:39:39 <joel135> Zharf: Are you talking about the second solution, the one from bjoernQ on github?
Jan 05 13:39:50 <Zharf> github
Jan 05 13:40:06 <joel135> Ok, I'll try setting constants.
Jan 05 13:41:43 <danijoo> S_J, it is for me.. http://prntscr.com/9md10b
Jan 05 13:44:44 <joel135> I replaced the four WRAP_CONTENT with 200 and nothing is different. I tried setting topLeftParams.width, height to 200, too, and still no difference. Did you say you use similar code? May I see & run it?
Jan 05 13:50:17 <Zharf> joel135, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f5069b23ec7b5c3db2a8   was pretty much my initial test for that
Jan 05 13:51:34 <Zharf> I mostly decompiled twitch's app and imitated what they did :P
Jan 05 13:54:03 <joel135> That's what I call dedication! :P
Jan 05 13:54:29 <Zharf> it was obfuscated too, weird stuff
Jan 05 13:58:59 <vol4ko> Guys, is it good to refresh fragment each few seconds as i gather data?
Jan 05 13:59:24 <vol4ko> I have two fragments, one mapview another listview. They can be set in my preferences activity
Jan 05 13:59:41 <vol4ko> so one fragment is shown at a time. Depends of what choosen
Jan 05 14:00:14 <vol4ko> and that one is refreshed every few seconds from my receiver with some data of my service
Jan 05 14:02:57 <Zharf> vol4ko, depends on the application, I guess
Jan 05 14:03:38 <joel135> Well look at that! I merged with björn's code and replaced your inflatation line with "view = new View(this); view.setBackgroundColor(0xFFFF0000);" and I now see a portrait-shaped red box covering half of my screen.
Jan 05 14:03:40 <Zharf> as long as you're not hurting performance and your users don't whine about battery consumption, "anything" goes I guess :p
Jan 05 14:03:45 <joel135> I'm really grateful, Zharf!
Jan 05 14:04:05 <Zharf> joel135, have fun
Jan 05 14:04:22 <joel135> I will :)
Jan 05 14:05:36 <donguston> https://i.imgur.com/0NQ5EPU.png How to hide this blue bar? Ive added  android:theme="@android:style/Theme.Holo.NoActionBar.Fullscreen" to the xml relativeview
Jan 05 14:06:40 <Zharf> donguston, that goes in your androidmanifest
Jan 05 14:12:16 <andr3wmac> I'm using Unity engine on android and utilizing a plugin for it that launches native dialogs in android. Like message box, prompt, etc. I've been trying to use this to confirm the deletion of a file however when i try to delete the file with the callback from the native dialog the file doesn't exist and can't be deleted.
Jan 05 14:12:24 <andr3wmac> However running the exact same code not in the callback works fine
Jan 05 14:12:48 <andr3wmac> can anyone shed some light on whats happening? is the callback executing in a different thread or process or something causing different permissions?
Jan 05 14:14:06 <_genuser_> have I mentioned today that I hated AS?
Jan 05 14:14:22 <_genuser_> public floggings for whoever decided intelligj as base for AS
Jan 05 14:17:52 <Zharf> well, I have AS too
Jan 05 14:17:55 <Zharf> but I love intellij ;)
Jan 05 14:19:24 <S_J> danijoo, yes i found it now
Jan 05 14:19:31 <S_J> i had 2 installations :)
Jan 05 14:19:34 <S_J> anyway
Jan 05 14:19:49 <S_J> how do you use it, it just has open ninepatch file, but i want to create one...
Jan 05 14:20:24 <danijoo> read the docs about it.
Jan 05 14:28:12 <_genuser_> Zharf: I was using eclipse (way back) with chrome, realtime stock trading apps, music production apps, emulator all at the same time. Now 8GB ram and AS/emul + chrome along make it choke
Jan 05 14:28:41 <Zharf> it's the chrome :p
Jan 05 14:29:29 <Zharf> I'm running 3-5 instances of intellij, virtualbox and firefox with ~80+ tabs on 8G... I do wish I had 16 like my computer at home though
Jan 05 14:31:14 <Zharf> are you sure it's the RAM and not the jvm memory limits that choke?
Jan 05 14:31:16 <_genuser_> Zharf: chrome is definitely becoming a mem hog lately. I have chrome 150+ tabs. I know that alone takes up all the ram, lol.
Jan 05 14:31:36 <Zharf> the default jvm params in intellij/AS are kinda restricted, imo
Jan 05 14:31:52 <_genuser_> Zharf: AS said, I need more than the 512 assigned to me. so I said go for it.
Jan 05 14:32:00 <_genuser_> I think it set it to 768 something.
Jan 05 14:32:02 <Zharf> http://eclipser.xmms2.org/idea64.vmoptions  I use these
Jan 05 14:32:11 <_genuser_> I guess I should upgrade it to like 2GB or something, eh?
Jan 05 14:32:36 <Zharf> it does make it run better, especially with larger projects, yes
Jan 05 14:33:23 <_genuser_> Zharf: part of my crankiness is because I can't just use a DialogFragment that resizes on orientation changes.
Jan 05 14:33:58 <_genuser_> Zharf: I'm having to write all sort of try-it-out code to see what gives. And I can resize the DialogFragment 80% of screen height and width. But the container LinearLayout.... another story.
Jan 05 14:34:32 <_genuser_> it won't re-adjust itself even if it's match parent. I think the match_parent, wrap_content, fill_parent are possibly only used when originally inflating the UI.
Jan 05 14:34:51 <_genuser_> and explicit pixel sizes are all over the map. converting from pixel to dp and assigning but it's still WAYYY off.
Jan 05 14:35:34 <Zharf> can't remember if I've ever needed to do anything like that
Jan 05 14:36:17 <_genuser_> Zharf: on it's own it will work just fine. but I had to lock the main activity to landscape only, but I want the DialogFragment/Dialog to be rotated.
Jan 05 14:36:43 <_genuser_> so I put in a sensorlistener and on orientation changes, I setRotate on the view. but obviously it messes up the entire shebang.
Jan 05 14:37:02 <_genuser_> I'm not thinking to just run onCreateView method contents again and that way it will inflate and populate anew.
Jan 05 14:37:32 <Zharf> messes up how?
Jan 05 14:37:38 <Zharf> is the center of rotation correct?
Jan 05 14:39:11 <_genuser_> Zharf: I on orientation change, the Dialog being recreated is given proper screen sizes.
Jan 05 14:40:02 <Zharf> why do you recreate it if you're not recreating the activity anyway? did you just try rotating it as a whole?
Jan 05 14:40:06 <_genuser_> Zharf: on my own forced changes, 1) I'm chaning dialog size manually. 2) set rotate (axis might be off but not worried about it atm), 3) and hoping that LinearLayout would respect width="match_parent" and expand to dialog width
Jan 05 14:40:10 <_genuser_> but it doesn't.
Jan 05 14:40:10 <Zharf> I'm not sure about any of this because I haven't tried myself
Jan 05 14:40:39 <_genuser_> I rotated the View. the root level View of the DialogFragment.
Jan 05 14:40:55 <_genuser_> I'm not re-creating it atm. just rotating the already created view.
Jan 05 14:41:05 <justJanne> _genuser_: btw, regarding the Chrome memory usage: Maybe there’s a plugin for chrome that does the same what firefox does, suspending background tabs so they don’t use RAM?
Jan 05 14:41:09 <Zharf> and what happens?
Jan 05 14:42:21 <_genuser_> Zharf: 1) I set Dialog to 80% of screen height x width, 2) I rotate view. 3) view rotates but doesn't widen up to match_parent.
Jan 05 14:42:31 <_genuser_> justJanne: hmm, maybe. I'll have to google it.
Jan 05 14:43:13 <Zharf> _genuser_, could you post a testcase, or do I need to guess what kind of code you have to write my own? :)
Jan 05 14:44:37 <_genuser_> Zharf: I'll post the relevant bit. but I suppose the entire project is too huge and kind of sensitive.
Jan 05 14:44:46 <_genuser_> Zharf: onCreate method that does this circus coming up.
Jan 05 14:44:48 <Zharf> _genuser_, yep, understandable
Jan 05 14:45:33 <_genuser_> be gentle. this is test code building up as it goes. it heavily repetitive and kind of redundant in places.
Jan 05 14:45:38 <_genuser_> kind of plain dumbass too.
Jan 05 14:46:20 <_genuser_> http://pastie.org/10671338
Jan 05 14:47:55 <_genuser_> layout: http://pastie.org/10671343
Jan 05 14:56:27 <S_J> How unprofessional would you say it is if the user can see a slight circle in your rectangle with rounded corners?
Jan 05 14:57:58 <canvs2321>  does the dial turn to 11?
Jan 05 14:58:16 <_genuser_> S_J: screenshot might help.
Jan 05 14:58:54 <vol4ko> Lol. Google key is 2500 requests per day. Shit. What is my alternative?
Jan 05 14:59:03 <justJanne> vol4ko: for what?
Jan 05 15:00:16 <vol4ko> constantly checking distance between two points on the earth. With example call https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/directions/json?origin=((ltd,lng)&destination=(ltd,lng)
Jan 05 15:00:31 <justJanne> You have ltd and lng of both?
Jan 05 15:00:39 <justJanne> Do you want distance as car path,
Jan 05 15:00:48 <justJanne> or distance in direct line of sight?
Jan 05 15:00:58 <vol4ko> i am looking for car path
Jan 05 15:01:53 <vol4ko> i have both lnglatd, one is mine(current device location) another is a place from my database
Jan 05 15:01:56 <justJanne> Use OpenRouteService (the routing from OpenStreetMap), pay money, or use Google’s API key that you decompile from their own apps
Jan 05 15:03:37 <vol4ko> OpenRouteService sounds great. But decomplication thing sounds interesting
Jan 05 15:04:24 <justJanne> Google will get evil at you, but it’s not hard.
Jan 05 15:05:03 <justJanne> Google Keep uses AIzaSyDzSyl-DPNxSyc7eghRsB4oNNetrnvnH0I which gives you access to keep and maps – but don’t use that in apps you put on the playstore
Jan 05 15:05:25 <justJanne> also, as this info was not gained via decompilation, but via observing network traffic, it does not violate any international laws
Jan 05 15:06:20 <justJanne> I’d suggest OpenRouteService anyway, I don’t know how well their routing works, though, and the Uni Heidelberg server for testing the new 2015 API of theirs only provides routing for Germany
Jan 05 15:16:58 <_genuser_> restarting AS.
Jan 05 15:17:11 <_genuser_> hopefully increased RAM will help in faster AS ux
Jan 05 15:41:09 <freebyte> Is there a way to force option menu background color? (it's transparent on some devices)
Jan 05 15:43:32 <Zharf> _genuser_, I think you're better off not using a DialogFragment at all
Jan 05 15:47:02 <vigilancer> fk @AutoService do not work for annotation processor written in kotlin
Jan 05 15:47:29 <_genuser_> Zharf: have you been away trying things out all this time
Jan 05 15:47:31 <_genuser_> ?
Jan 05 15:48:55 <Zharf> sure
Jan 05 15:49:16 <_genuser_> I thought you ran away with my codeZZZ
Jan 05 15:49:26 <Zharf> -.-
Jan 05 15:49:46 <_genuser_> I'm tryin got re-inflate on rotation instead of resizing the LinearLayout.
Jan 05 15:50:07 <_genuser_> but if not dialogfragment, then what do you recommend?
Jan 05 15:57:19 <thebishop> is it possible for a device to falsely report its make and model to the OS/apps?  I'm monitoring an error in my app which I've determined is caused by ATOM-powered devices using an ARM translation layer.  But some of the devices in my reports are ARM-powered Samsung devices
Jan 05 15:57:41 <Mavrik> yep.
Jan 05 15:57:46 <thebishop> of course it's possible they're also seeing the issue, but I don't have an explanation for that
Jan 05 15:58:07 <thebishop> Mavrik, yep?  is this a known thing?  is there maybe a list somewhere?  sorry for badgering you
Jan 05 15:58:17 <pfn> Mavrik, my crypto problem was a bug in bc
Jan 05 15:58:25 <Mavrik> the bundled one?
Jan 05 15:58:29 <Mavrik> or your included one?
Jan 05 15:58:35 <pfn> Mavrik, bundled
Jan 05 15:58:52 <Mavrik> thebishop, make / model is a freeform string field from build.prop
Jan 05 15:58:59 <Mavrik> thebishop, it can be anything, people change it at will
Jan 05 15:59:04 <pfn> bc doesn't properly set oaep params to match RI
Jan 05 15:59:08 <Mavrik> people will also run you app in emulators and mess with it :)
Jan 05 15:59:15 <Mavrik> Welcome to the world of Android :)
Jan 05 15:59:23 <thebishop> Mavrik, lol, interesting.
Jan 05 15:59:36 <thebishop> well, i'm definitely not going to blacklist the galaxy s5
Jan 05 16:00:32 <Zharf> _genuser_, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6706d2076f87489aa0c2  maybe something like this... not sure how many problems remain but at least the orientation change works... although it really needs a lot of tweaking if you want to do it that way
Jan 05 16:01:40 <thebishop> Mavrik, one complicating factor: according to my reports, these samsung devices are not rooted.  doesn't that mean an OEM would need to falsely report the device at the factory level?
Jan 05 16:01:49 <_genuser_> Zharf: hmm, let me look at that one. thanks for looking.
Jan 05 16:02:08 <Zharf> I need to get off work in about 10 minutes :p
Jan 05 16:02:25 <_genuser_> Zharf: I'm thinking either just ditch the dialogfragments, or use what you posted, OR just create a custom LinearLayout that "acts" as a DialogFragment.
Jan 05 16:02:30 <Mavrik> thebishop, I'm not sure why do you use word "falsely"
Jan 05 16:02:34 <Mavrik> What's "false" about your data?
Jan 05 16:02:38 <_genuser_> Zharf: off work? you're in europe?
Jan 05 16:02:42 <Zharf> yeah
Jan 05 16:02:43 <pfn> Mavrik, google response if you're interested: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=197719#c7
Jan 05 16:02:55 <Zharf> it's 6pm
Jan 05 16:03:38 <_genuser_> Zharf: nice! altho, I'm off so 10am here is still cool.
Jan 05 16:03:43 <Mavrik> pfn, at least they'll fix it eventually :)
Jan 05 16:04:10 <pfn> Maybe, there's a usable workaround that they've recommended which is perfectly fine
Jan 05 16:04:27 <Jamal> Hi has anybody used the google play betatesting with implemented Facebook login? I tried it but I could not pass the Facebook login step in my app. I assume it has something to do with the Key Hashes but I could not figure out anything I did wrong. Anybody experiencing the same problem?
Jan 05 16:04:57 <S_J> any good gimp users here? i need to have more transparnecy than the default when i "color to alpha", how do change that?
Jan 05 16:05:06 <_genuser_> Zharf: I see you cooked up custom code. not a link to an existing github repo. :) I apprecaite that.
Jan 05 16:05:24 <_genuser_> Zharf: not that a github repo is a bad thing, I just meant I appreciate you spending the time on it.
Jan 05 16:05:37 <pfn> Jamal, your problem isn't beta testing, as you use the sake applicationId and signature in beta
Jan 05 16:05:48 <pfn> s/sake/same
Jan 05 16:05:49 <Zharf> was probably going to get off work early without something to do
Jan 05 16:05:53 <Zharf> and you gave me something to do
Jan 05 16:05:56 <Zharf> passed the time
Jan 05 16:06:01 <perlsyntax> hey all
Jan 05 16:06:11 <_genuser_> Zharf: heh, I have gotten off work early quite a few times.
Jan 05 16:06:37 <_genuser_> Zharf: and gotten to work quite late to. back in teh day I remember getting to work at 11:00am.
Jan 05 16:06:40 <Jamal> pfn: if i deploy my app directly on the phone everything is working fine concerning the login. but if i create the apk and use the betatesting the login does not work
Jan 05 16:07:05 <Zharf> I'm at the office 1030 the earliest... and still half asleep for the next few hours
Jan 05 16:07:37 <_genuser_> Zharf: lol. now tho, my current boss would throw a fit if he needs to talk by 9am and I'm not around.
Jan 05 16:07:49 <pfn> Jamal, you probably deployed debug build to your phone
Jan 05 16:08:09 <Mavrik> :)
Jan 05 16:08:20 <_genuser_> anyone else seeing this problem? start emulator, AS loses connectivity. close emul, restart emul. and it works fine.
Jan 05 16:08:21 <Zharf> I'm free to do my work whenever and whereever
Jan 05 16:08:31 <Zharf> anyway, off now ->
Jan 05 16:08:36 <_genuser_> Zharf: have fun.
Jan 05 16:08:57 <Jamal> pfn, and why does the login not work in release mode?
Jan 05 16:15:37 <pfn> Jamal, because you registered your debug key with facebook, not release
Jan 05 16:15:49 <thebishop> Mavrik, what i'm imagining is some little-known OEM reporting their random phone or tablet as a Samsung device within the factory build.prop. If my reports are correct and the devices are not rooted, how else could build.prop be changed?
Jan 05 16:16:01 <pfn> thebishop, emulator images
Jan 05 16:16:10 <pfn> thebishop, custom roms do not have to be rooted
Jan 05 16:16:20 <Mavrik> thebishop, you still haven't explained what's the issue
Jan 05 16:16:24 <pfn> or they could install su binary other than where is typically checked
Jan 05 16:16:32 <pfn> thebishop, if you care to filter out these things, use gms securitynet
Jan 05 16:16:35 <Mavrik> what are you reading?
Jan 05 16:16:39 <thebishop> pfn, interesting, thanks
Jan 05 16:16:46 <pfn> which is actually a good idea, I should implement that for keepshare
Jan 05 16:16:52 <Mavrik> samsung builds several variants of their devices, why do you think some of data is fake? :)
Jan 05 16:16:54 <Jamal> pfn, but i created my own keystore for creating the signed apk and generated the release hash key based on that and added it to my Facebook developers console. I guess that's how to generate the release hash key?
Jan 05 16:17:16 <pfn> Jamal, I don't know, see the documentation that facebook has for registering your keys
Jan 05 16:17:58 <Jamal> pfn, alright I'll have a look at it again. Thanks anyways!
Jan 05 16:18:23 <thebishop> Mavrik, the only issue is i'm blacklisting devices i know to be ATOM powered because there's a known issue with their ARM translation in my app.  But I'm seeing a handful of Samsung devices in my crash reports.  So I don't know if these are legit reports I need to debug, or if it's likely to be a device misreporting its make/model.  Since my crash reports claim the devices are not rooted, i was wondering if the false build.prop theory still appli
Jan 05 16:18:24 <thebishop> es.
Jan 05 16:19:01 <DrGonzo> why did all of the sudden, my mainactivity got litered with this? https://developers.google.com/app-indexing/
Jan 05 16:19:06 <DrGonzo> or code to handle this
Jan 05 16:19:15 <DrGonzo> did i hit a wrong button or something?
Jan 05 16:19:39 <DrGonzo> (not saying it's not important, i'm just wondering where the boilerplate code comes from... it makes the code review look weird)
Jan 05 16:20:15 <justJanne> Yes, DrGonzo, it's sadly the #1 on autocomppete in AS now
Jan 05 16:20:21 <Mavrik> thebishop, might be you have an actual bug
Jan 05 16:20:32 <DrGonzo> whats #2?
Jan 05 16:20:34 <Mavrik> or emulators misreporting, but I find that unlikely
Jan 05 16:20:38 <justJanne> If you accidentally do Alt+Enter, Enter without looking, it gives you this.
Jan 05 16:20:42 <thebishop> Mavrik, yeah it's possible
Jan 05 16:20:46 <DrGonzo> ok
Jan 05 16:20:47 <justJanne> Even when you just wanted to import something.
Jan 05 16:20:56 <S_J> What is the correct way to handle font sizes? not to use scale? how do you do it then?
Jan 05 16:21:05 <DrGonzo> does it matter if i leave the code untouched for now?
Jan 05 16:21:41 <DrGonzo> i guess if it's auto complete, i'll take it out and bring it back later
Jan 05 16:21:43 <DrGonzo> thanks for the reply
Jan 05 16:25:02 <pfn> S_J, scale it yourself if necessary
Jan 05 16:26:28 <_genuser_> piffen, you're telling people to scale fonts
Jan 05 16:28:12 <pfn> ok, I finally figured out how to use ANDROID_HVPROTO; it needs to be set before starting adbd on computer and IDE/monitor
Jan 05 16:28:23 <pfn> yay, no more viewserver needed
Jan 05 16:28:31 <jeremiedenoob> S_J:
Jan 05 16:28:32 <_genuser_> piffen, you ignoring my comments?
Jan 05 16:28:42 <pfn> stupid documentation keeps saying it only needs to be set before starting monitor/hv
Jan 05 16:29:04 <jeremiedenoob> grantland.widget.AutofitTextView
Jan 05 16:31:51 <philm88> Hey all. I'm building a prototype app that'll show different video content based on gestures (determined from the front-facing camera). I've made good progress in android studio but I don't have an actual android device to test on. Anybody know any good tablets for this kind of thing?
Jan 05 16:33:28 <jeremiedenoob> use geny motion
Jan 05 16:33:42 <jeremiedenoob> you can use the webcam as the camera input
Jan 05 16:34:22 <philm88> that looks quite cool, hadn't heard of that thanks (:
Jan 05 16:35:06 <philm88> I'd still like to buy a device though. I plan on building a physical unit with a tablet encased in it
Jan 05 16:35:11 <philm88> so I'm going to need one eventually
Jan 05 16:36:12 <S_J> jeremiedenoob, grantland?
Jan 05 16:36:21 <jeremiedenoob> it autosizes to fit
Jan 05 16:36:30 <jeremiedenoob> you dont have to wrory about resizing yourself
Jan 05 16:36:33 <jeremiedenoob> i use it and like it.,
Jan 05 16:50:23 <honestemu> Where is the RotationVectorDemo mentioned here? I can't seem to find it in the sample list in Android Studio. http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_motion.html#sensors-motion-rotate
Jan 05 16:51:45 <jeremiedenoob> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/development/+/master/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/os/RotationVectorDemo.java
Jan 05 16:52:55 <S_J> i do bfont.setColor(Color.BLACK); but the font is still white
Jan 05 16:53:06 <S_J> how do i change the font color_
Jan 05 16:53:22 <honestemu> Thanks, jeremiedenoob
Jan 05 16:53:42 <jeremiedenoob> dont thank me, thank google search engine
Jan 05 16:54:33 <jeremiedenoob> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+sensor+demo
Jan 05 17:21:47 <french-buget> Hey all, I'm developing an app (A system app) that needs to scan for the GSM network with the best reception. Is there any way to do that? Thanks!
Jan 05 17:23:14 <ub_ubuntu> starting with android. Any books or tutorials to refer ?
Jan 05 17:24:21 <joel135> Hi, from which threads do you think it is safe to call this method? https://google.github.io/ExoPlayer/doc/reference/com/google/android/exoplayer/text/SubtitleLayout.html#setCues(java.util.List)
Jan 05 17:24:28 <french-buget> ub_ubuntu Android developer official site has very good documantations
Jan 05 17:24:33 <pfn> meh, screw it, gonna move all my sbt stuff over to scala-android.org, since I can't think of any clever name
Jan 05 17:24:59 <ub_ubuntu> french-budget thanks.
Jan 05 17:30:58 <Looney> Hola people, is AppCompatActivity gonna stay for while?
Jan 05 17:31:29 <Looney> I got a few months old code which used ActionBarActivity and docs said that its deprecated
Jan 05 17:38:35 <danijoo> Looney, yes. possibly forever
Jan 05 17:38:42 <danijoo> s/possibly/hopefully
Jan 05 17:41:58 <Looney> OK
Jan 05 17:42:02 <Looney> thanks danijoo
Jan 05 17:42:28 <justJanne> Looney: it's probably gonna stay a while, as it's in a lib, and therefore a lot easier to keep up to date regardless of the current Android version.
Jan 05 17:46:07 <S_J> Anyone here that have their own gaming or app company? How many users do you need to make 10000 USD a month_
Jan 05 17:46:59 <justJanne> S_J: you know that in pay2win "freemium" games it's about 1% of users that pay 90% of profit?
Jan 05 17:47:20 <justJanne> (Numbers taken from a recent newspaper report about a freemium company)
Jan 05 17:48:09 <justJanne> The amount of people playing rarely matters, the amount of enthusiasts buying everything matters more.
Jan 05 17:48:09 <s73v3r> numbers like that have been bandied about for a while.
Jan 05 17:48:15 <justJanne> Or the amount of kids with access to dads credit card.
Jan 05 17:48:21 <dragorn> you just have to be willing to be hugely predatory on the weakest segment, yup
Jan 05 17:48:36 <s73v3r> of course, the more users you have, the more potential that one of them will be a whale
Jan 05 17:48:41 <justJanne> If you aren't predatory, you'll only have enthusiasts paying.
Jan 05 17:48:48 <justJanne> Yup
Jan 05 17:49:26 <justJanne> But it doesn't help when you have a million users and no whale, for your business, only whales count, all other users are a liability.
Jan 05 17:49:28 <S_J> and predatory means having schemes to keep paying a little extra here and there
Jan 05 17:49:29 <s73v3r> i remember seeing that some people from the company would try to friend some of their whales on facebook, so they could know the people better, and design  objects just for them to buy
Jan 05 17:49:30 <vol4ko> is it good to check   savedInstanceState != null in my MainActivity?
Jan 05 17:49:41 <vol4ko> if savedInstanceState is null i would just return;
Jan 05 17:49:44 <french-buget> What do you think about using Interstitial ads ?
Jan 05 17:49:47 <s73v3r> S_J: predatory means manipulative
Jan 05 17:50:13 <S_J> so basically like wordfeud, how do they make money i dont see much people paying for statistics and is getting rid of the ads really worth paying for ?
Jan 05 17:50:13 <vol4ko> i am saying for onCreate() method
Jan 05 17:51:21 <s73v3r> getting rid of ads can be worth something. keep in mind that means you also have ads, which are earning you money
Jan 05 17:53:39 <S_J> i thought that was freemium, or freemium is that you opay for ingame stuff?
Jan 05 17:53:57 <joel135> (My multithread question is probably answered by the documentation at https://google.github.io/ExoPlayer/doc/reference/com/google/android/exoplayer/ExoPlayer.html. I like this library.)
Jan 05 17:54:08 <s73v3r> getting rid of ads isn’t generally considered freemium
Jan 05 17:57:09 <french-buget> How often do you think I should use Interstitial ads in my app? Is it worth it?
Jan 05 18:00:07 <s73v3r> interstitials pay the most, but are the most annoying.
Jan 05 18:01:48 <french-buget> I agree.. Do you think using it will make users to delete the app? (As for using interstitial ad every x times you use the app)
Jan 05 18:03:25 <s73v3r> as long as it’s not every time you try to switch screens
Jan 05 18:03:48 <french-buget> Great thanks for your opinion
Jan 05 18:03:56 <s73v3r> there will be the millitant, no-ads ever people who will be upset, but most of those people don’t want to pay for anything anyway
Jan 05 18:04:50 <french-buget> Those people will anyway find something to complain about :)
Jan 05 18:07:49 <lexton> where ya'll at?
Jan 05 18:12:29 <cwek> Hi,what am I doing wrong ( http://pastebin.com/3Q7R7UvS ). I'm trying to get all buttons from GridLayout (there are only buttons in GridLayout).
Jan 05 18:13:42 <danijoo> cwek, whats the error
Jan 05 18:14:17 <cwek> http://pastebin.com/rfkdqZP6
Jan 05 18:14:28 <cwek> It is working when I comment out that loop
Jan 05 18:14:53 <danijoo> Read the stack trace
Jan 05 18:15:09 <danijoo> Attempt to write to null array
Jan 05 18:15:13 <cwek> attempt to write to null array
Jan 05 18:16:46 <danijoo> thats your problem
Jan 05 18:16:50 <justJanne> cwek, why would you want to do that anyway?
Jan 05 18:17:26 <cwek> Well there is dynamical number of buttons, depends on level mode
Jan 05 18:17:45 <danijoo> your array is null
Jan 05 18:19:55 <cwek> Should I use ArrayList instead of regular array?
Jan 05 18:20:49 <french-buget> You should initiate the array before inserting data into it
Jan 05 18:21:42 <Beardless_One> Has anyone seen an issue with VideoViews not working after a few thousand plays? OnPrepared never seems to get called until the app is restarted
Jan 05 18:22:13 <Beardless_One> And recreating the VideoView each play doesn't seem to fix the issue, it's continuing across multiple instances of VideoViews
Jan 05 18:22:20 <cwek> I am initializing it..
Jan 05 18:22:49 <cwek> answerButton = new Button[4];
Jan 05 18:22:58 <cwek> inside of onCreate method
Jan 05 18:23:26 <quelqun_dautre> Beardless_One: anything in the logs ?
Jan 05 18:25:11 <cwek> Oh.. I initialized it before I called that specific method..
Jan 05 18:25:21 <cwek> thanks
Jan 05 18:26:07 <french-buget> Great, good luck
Jan 05 18:27:09 <Beardless_One> nothing at all
Jan 05 18:28:06 <french-buget> I'm developing an app (A system app) that needs to scan for the GSM network with the best reception. Is there any way to do that? Thanks!
Jan 05 18:28:31 <s73v3r> i don’t believe you have access to any of that stuff
Jan 05 18:29:25 <french-buget> Thanks, and do you know if its possible if I can create a custom rom for that
Jan 05 18:30:32 <pfn> radios are not accessible from userspace
Jan 05 18:31:22 <s73v3r> yeah, those things are generally split off from the normal processor so that the user can’t bring down the cell network.
Jan 05 18:31:42 <french-buget> Great thanks for you answers!
Jan 05 18:35:07 <g00s> " Swing will now sit on every Android phone, using up resources. Its unlikely that Oracle will try to force Google to actually use Swing, but Google has to make sure it works and is present and apps can use it. "
Jan 05 18:35:09 <g00s> :O
Jan 05 18:38:59 <jaana> g00s: I don’t see what google would have to do any of that since they’re not a Java licensee
Jan 05 18:39:29 <g00s> do we know that for sure?
Jan 05 18:39:33 <g00s> (going forward)
Jan 05 18:39:44 <jaana> That they are not a Java licensee? So far, yes.
Jan 05 18:40:17 <jaana> And if they ever become one, you can be it will hit Oracle.com’s front page within the hour
Jan 05 18:40:22 <g00s> but if they are using openjdk, aren't they restricted by its licenses ?
Jan 05 18:40:23 <jaana> bet*
Jan 05 18:40:34 <jaana> Yes they are
Jan 05 18:44:37 <justJanne> french-buget: actually, you can do some of that stuff...
Jan 05 18:45:16 <french-buget> justJanne: Do you have any ref for that?
Jan 05 18:45:41 <justJanne> french-buget: I’m trying to look into it right now, and if the API is only available to com.android, com.google, or to everyone
Jan 05 18:46:50 <french-buget> Thank you! I'm using custom ROM if it's helping ( I have a copmany who builds the custom ROM for me )
Jan 05 18:53:49 <explodes> Is there any way to use DBFlow in my AndroidTestCase?
Jan 05 18:53:51 <justJanne> french-buget: sorry, is limited to com.android.phone or other priviledged apps
Jan 05 18:53:57 <explodes> I'm getting a android.database.sqlite.SQLiteDoneException
Jan 05 18:54:07 <justJanne> the only apps allowed to access the api are Google Framework and the Phone app
Jan 05 18:54:38 <justJanne> french-buget: check the source of the phone app (which provides the normal "choose GSM network" screen) for more info on how to do this
Jan 05 18:54:57 <justJanne> it’s part of AOSP, so freely available
Jan 05 18:55:07 <french-buget> Great, Will read about it. thank you very much!
Jan 05 18:56:32 <g00s> holy shit, did you guys know about 'git worktree' ?
Jan 05 18:57:06 <g00s> thats like the biggest peeve i have with git, no longer \o/ https://developer.atlassian.com/blog/2016/01/git-2.7-release/
Jan 05 18:57:27 <g00s> probably missed because git changelogs are seemingly .. cryptic
Jan 05 18:59:20 <g00s> the only way this could be better would be if we didn't need separate dirs for each branch
Jan 05 18:59:25 <g00s> like clearcase
Jan 05 19:02:29 <g00s> ok you guys can all stop laughing now :D
Jan 05 19:08:50 <s73v3r> g00s: Citation on the Swing thing? I’m fairly certain that the Swing bits were removed
Jan 05 19:10:00 <pfn> huh? yeah, git worktree has been around for a while now
Jan 05 19:10:01 <pfn> it's nice
Jan 05 19:10:06 <s73v3r> french-buget: Aren’t you the guy who was also talking about interstitial ads? Are you planning on inserting ads while searching for networks? :p
Jan 05 19:10:14 <pfn> g00s, and no
Jan 05 19:10:26 <pfn> g00s, swing is only required if google wants android to be branded with 'java'
Jan 05 19:10:31 <pfn> that's what the license means
Jan 05 19:10:35 <pfn> in terms of requiring swing
Jan 05 19:10:47 <pfn> the main problem, I'm wondering how google is going to get around, is that openjdk rtl is gpl
Jan 05 19:11:15 <pfn> there's the classpath exception, but that doesn't really apply to embedding it as the rtl
Jan 05 19:11:25 <french-buget> s73v3r lol good idea :)
Jan 05 19:11:30 <pfn> then again, maybe google lawyers know better
Jan 05 19:11:33 <g00s> s73v3r that quote came from http://andreasgal.com/2016/01/05/oracle-sinks-its-claws-into-android/
Jan 05 19:11:49 <s73v3r> oh, i read that article. i didn’t buy it
Jan 05 19:12:06 <pfn> pretty much clickbait
Jan 05 19:12:41 <pfn> ugh, I misunderstood c# delegate lists...
Jan 05 19:19:10 <jaana> g00s: the content of the article matches the sensationalistic title :)
Jan 05 19:22:35 <fps> hmm, i wonder how to make gradle output a space between the task and the file an error occured in..
Jan 05 19:26:31 <g00s> jaana knowing oracle, 'sinking claws' isn't really exaggeration :D
Jan 05 19:26:50 <jaana> They have certainly been attempting to do that for years, with little success so far
Jan 05 19:27:42 <g00s> one thing we can probably agree in , is that android is for google by google. they aren't sharing anything 'strategic' about it. look at what happens when samsung tries to do multi-windoing stuff
Jan 05 19:28:06 <g00s> so if this does have legs, i expect google to migrate to other technologies .. but that roadmap is probably years in the future
Jan 05 19:28:19 <pfn> look at what?
Jan 05 19:28:26 <pfn> google didn't shut down the multi-window stuff did they?
Jan 05 19:28:28 <pfn> it sucked, though
Jan 05 19:28:41 <g00s> or skyhook for that matter
Jan 05 19:29:57 <pfn> what about skyhook
Jan 05 19:30:49 <g00s> you can read about that here http://www.gpsbusinessnews.com/Skyhook-Sues-Google-on-Motorola-Samsung-Android-Phones_a2486.html
Jan 05 19:30:52 <g00s> its old now, 2010
Jan 05 19:31:21 <g00s> "according to Skyhook Wireless the real problem arise when Motorola and Samsung choose Skyhook’s XPS (the hybrid positioning engine that marries GPS, cell-ID and Wi-Fi) to power the location engine on their Android devices, instead of the free Google Location Service. "
Jan 05 19:32:07 <pfn> it's part of CTS for android-compliance
Jan 05 19:32:08 <pfn> it is what it is
Jan 05 19:32:16 <pfn> simple, don't brand your device android, problem solved
Jan 05 19:41:40 <s73v3r> it really isn’t that simple
Jan 05 19:42:32 <Jace25> Good Evening guys
Jan 05 19:43:09 <Jace25> i have a strange problem, and since google seems not to have the right information (or i asked wrong) i hope somebody from here could help me
Jan 05 19:43:33 <s73v3r> just ask the question. we don’t really need all the leadup
Jan 05 19:43:52 <Jace25> yeah, i know. just want to be friendly
Jan 05 19:44:20 <pfn> it's not a social channel
Jan 05 19:44:29 <Jace25> so my app constist of some fragments. In the "main" layout it has an drawer and a toolbar with an optionsmenu
Jan 05 19:44:57 <Jace25> i am overwriting this optionsmenu inside of the fragment with some onclickhandler
Jan 05 19:45:13 <Jace25> everything fine, but i dont get the option "radio" icon set checked
Jan 05 19:45:48 <Jace25> i have tried to set it checked from the super method and from the fragments method, both times it didnt work
Jan 05 19:46:02 <Jace25> but i am setting the selected menu item while loading the app
Jan 05 19:46:32 <Jace25> so, on loading my app and getting the settings from prefered storage it is working, but doing it inside of an event seems to have no effect
Jan 05 19:46:52 <Jace25> so, somebody of you have some hints for me?
Jan 05 19:48:52 <drinfernoo> can anyone help me figure out whats going on here?
Jan 05 19:48:54 <drinfernoo> http://pastebin.com/eKNjUwMC
Jan 05 19:49:04 <defcon6> Hi guys, any ideas on why I would get a NetworkOnMainThreadException when I am connecting to a Service in a separate process which then calls the network after Activity requests data. I set a process attribute on the service element of the manifest and am connecting to it using an AIDL interface. I thought if a service was running in a separate process then, by definition, this means the processing is done of the main thread?
Jan 05 19:49:18 <pfn> separate process is still on main thread
Jan 05 19:49:31 <drinfernoo> i have multidex enabled, and i have verified that the dex files in my apk are actually split correctly, and that they do contain my "BaseActivity"
Jan 05 19:49:36 <pfn> it won't be the main thread of your UI process
Jan 05 19:49:43 <pfn> but it's still the main thread of the auxiliary process
Jan 05 19:49:59 <pfn> and doing so means you will block all IPC on your aux process until it's done
Jan 05 19:50:16 <pfn> i.e. sending messages/waiting for response will all block
Jan 05 19:52:20 <Jace25> also i tried to check, if the menu item is set to "checked"
Jan 05 19:52:34 <defcon6> pfn: so I have to use a ServiceHandler inside the service?
Jan 05 19:53:04 <Jace25> http://pastebin.com/pCQxjR8s
Jan 05 19:53:41 <Jace25> this results in http://pastebin.com/aYEQDDCQ
Jan 05 19:53:57 <Jace25> but my item is not displayed as checked inside the menu
Jan 05 19:56:23 <defcon6> pfn: or is anAsyncTask better in this case?
Jan 05 20:10:39 <teasp00n> if i build a fat apk with compiled binaries supporting multiple ABIs will the unneeded ones be stripped from the APK when downloaded to a users' device from google play? i dont want to take up more storage space than i need to
Jan 05 20:11:21 <SimonVT> No, the apk is never modified
Jan 05 20:12:10 <teasp00n> hmm ok, but google still encourages single apk builds, even in this case?
Jan 05 20:13:51 <SimonVT> No idea
Jan 05 20:13:54 <Jace25> any hints, what could be wrong, it the onOptionsItemSelected is called, but item.setChecked(true) has no visible effect?
Jan 05 20:14:39 <_genuser_> AS keeps losing connectivity with emulator. is there a way to get it to reconnect without restarting the emulator?
Jan 05 20:14:44 <teasp00n> Jace25: i think there is also item.setSelected(true)...
Jan 05 20:15:16 <Jace25> no, nothing like this
Jan 05 20:15:18 <teasp00n> _genuser_: you could try restarting adb
Jan 05 20:15:18 <perlsyntax> Hey g00s
Jan 05 20:15:35 <_genuser_> teasp00n: from cli?
Jan 05 20:15:36 <g00s> _genuser_ there is a 'restart' button in AS lolcat tool window
Jan 05 20:15:47 <g00s> otherwise adb kill-server
Jan 05 20:15:56 <g00s> hi perlsyntax i bet you are celebrating perl 6 !
Jan 05 20:15:56 <_genuser_> g00s: does that restart the emulator? or just reconnect to teh already running one?
Jan 05 20:15:57 <perlsyntax> i thought adb come with android studio if i rem right.
Jan 05 20:16:12 <perlsyntax> g00s,perl 6?
Jan 05 20:16:13 <SimonVT> Jace25, https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/MenuItem.html#setChecked(boolean): "Note that you must first have enabled checking with setCheckable(boolean) or else the check mark will not appear"
Jan 05 20:16:38 <_genuser_> g00s: adb murder-server more like it. the frustratoin is high.
Jan 05 20:16:40 <Jace25> <group android:checkableBehavior="single">             <item android:id="@+id/nav_filter_all" ...
Jan 05 20:17:19 <teasp00n> _genuser_: what g00s suggested will just restart the debugging bridge, the emulator will continue running
Jan 05 20:17:32 <perlsyntax> g00s,Nope just got a new imac 5k:)
Jan 05 20:17:43 <g00s> wow, 5k ...
Jan 05 20:17:46 <_genuser_> teasp00n: nice, thanks. I will do that next time I see AS losing connectivity.
Jan 05 20:17:47 <Jace25> also, if i do a setChecked(true); and after this checking with item.isChecked() it "is" checked, because isChecked returns true, it seems like this is only not displayed or something similar
Jan 05 20:18:26 <g00s> _genuser_ only problem with that button : on mac + USB the whole AS UI can hang, so you can't press it :D
Jan 05 20:18:28 <teasp00n> _genuser_: if AS is having trouble connecting make sure you dont have anything else trying to connect to your device on the debugging port
Jan 05 20:18:39 <perlsyntax> g00s,Yep
Jan 05 20:19:06 <perlsyntax> g00s, it better then my laptop.
Jan 05 20:19:10 <drinfernoo> one thing i noticed in that stack trace is that it refers to /data/app/myappname/lib/arm not existing, but none of my apps that i have installrd have that
Jan 05 20:19:20 <drinfernoo> they all have /oat/arm instead
Jan 05 20:19:25 <_genuser_> g00s: at least mine's on win. let's see how it performs when needed. Also someone mentioned to me to increase the jvm mem size for AS and it has helped AS get more responsive. So overall experience is improving slowly.
Jan 05 20:20:02 <_genuser_> teasp00n: I typically only have one emul and one AS. and then 5-10 times of "run" later, it will just reboot the emul on it's own. if I wait 10min and come back it will just not find the emul.
Jan 05 20:24:45 <_genuser_> err, the terminal window in AS just embeds a cmd window, I suppose?
Jan 05 20:25:01 <_genuser_> I'd a thunk, it would have adb in the path so I can just adb blah blah in the terminal window.
Jan 05 20:26:53 <teasp00n> _genuser_: it can't find adb there?
Jan 05 20:28:01 <_genuser_> teasp00n: I know where my sdk it and I can add it to the path. so no worries. I was just surprised that the Terminal window in AS doesn't already do that.
Jan 05 20:28:08 <_genuser_> s/it/is/
Jan 05 20:29:24 <_genuser_> I'd just be glad if I can do this rotate dialogfragment thing.
Jan 05 20:31:01 <drinfernoo> anyone have any ideas about a NoClassDefFoundError? http://pastebin.com/eKNjUwMC
Jan 05 20:33:31 <_genuser_> no an expert, but I'd think your class isn't getting included in the apk.
Jan 05 20:34:08 <drinfernoo> i cracked open my classes.dex (the first of many), and its in there :(
Jan 05 20:34:40 <SimonVT> Looks like it's being evicted for some reason (Rejecting re-init on previously-failed class ...)
Jan 05 20:35:08 <SimonVT> Maybe you're extending a class that doesn't exist? Dalvik logged this, art probably does as well
Jan 05 20:36:51 <_genuser_> SimonVT: you're an android veteran. have you seen the use-case: activity locked to landscape, but dialogfragment should change orientation. to make it easy for user to deal with UI.
Jan 05 20:37:13 <SimonVT> That sounds horrible
Jan 05 20:37:34 <_genuser_> it's a camera app. I Need the main activity to not redraw on orientation changes. camera init takes forever
Jan 05 20:38:11 <_genuser_> but camera prefs that popup, change the camera realtime, so I'd like to popup a dialogfragment so the user can see how their selection affects the camera preview/picture
Jan 05 20:39:54 <SimonVT> It takes forever even if the Activity isn't killed?
Jan 05 20:39:56 <drinfernoo> SimonVT, AppCompatActivity?? lol
Jan 05 20:40:46 <_genuser_> SimonVT: since activity is recreated on orientation change, it goes thru the camera init code. I don't think I can save the camera instance in a bundle.
Jan 05 20:41:13 <SimonVT> Just disable the activity being recreated
Jan 05 20:41:34 <SimonVT> android:configChanges
Jan 05 20:41:36 <_genuser_> SimonVT: yes, I did that. however, it will rotate it and with that mess up all of my UI.
Jan 05 20:42:08 <SimonVT> Then un-mess-it-up
Jan 05 20:42:52 <_genuser_> SimonVT: if the activity rotates, but I don't want the camera buttons to change place, I need two xml layouts  layout-land, layout-port
Jan 05 20:43:24 <drinfernoo> SimonVT, actually, i was extending ActionBarActivity (didnt even realize), but my app has been running fine up until the last few days i keep having this error and havent been able to resolve it
Jan 05 20:43:32 <_genuser_> which means, on orientation changes, I'm then going to be re-inflating the layouts. This would force the preview surface to be re-inflated too. requiring a restart of the camera service.
Jan 05 20:43:57 <drinfernoo> im trying a clean build with AppCompatActivity to see if that works, but idk why ActionBarActivity wouldnt work in any case
Jan 05 20:43:58 <SimonVT> Just change the parts that needs changing, don't mess with your preview surface
Jan 05 20:44:20 <_genuser_> SimonVT: programmatically change them around? Or inflate partial UI?
Jan 05 20:44:27 <SimonVT> drinfernoo: I was guessing, and hinting at you to look into whether art logged more info
Jan 05 20:44:32 <_genuser_> I didn't inflating the partial UI bit, and it was starting to get quite horrible.
Jan 05 20:45:08 <SimonVT> If re-creating the surface causes issues, don't re-create it.. Re-create everything else
Jan 05 20:45:34 <drinfernoo> how do i read art logs?
Jan 05 20:45:37 <_genuser_> well, apparently classnotfound error is just like the flu. it's going around.
Jan 05 20:45:39 <SimonVT> Maybe you'll even be able to remove the surface from the old layout, setContentView and re-add it
Jan 05 20:45:56 <_genuser_> my perfectly fine app just quit working saying classnotfound, lol.
Jan 05 20:46:05 <SimonVT> drinfernoo: dalvik logged to logcat
Jan 05 20:46:21 <_genuser_> SimonVT: yeah, I will try to clear out the junk and attempt a clean solution of this again. Just keep surfaceview around and re-do the rest.
Jan 05 20:46:30 <SimonVT> In your log, art seemed to log at least one line there as well
Jan 05 20:46:41 <Rajveer> In NDK 10e, android_native_app_glue doesn't register for the onContentRectChanged callback. I've modified it to have a function that sends APP_CMD_CONTENT_RECT_CHANGED, and registered this as the callback, and everything seems to work fine. Is there a reason why the default implementation doesn't register for onContentRectChanged?
Jan 05 20:47:27 <SimonVT> I would guess that with art it happens at install time, dalvik was each launch
Jan 05 20:47:45 <Rajveer> I'd like to just reference the android_native_app_glue implementation that comes with the NDK so I don't have to manually update it in case of future changes.
Jan 05 20:49:13 <_genuser_> SimonVT: I did have a pretty nice rotate DialogFragment that just uses orientationEventListener to do setRotation but changing dialogfragment size somehow screws up the content. You can set the LinearLayout inside to be the same size AND start at 0,0 (top/left)
Jan 05 20:49:54 <_genuser_> *can't set the LinearLayout....
Jan 05 20:51:02 <ondroed> people, when i try to upload file to amazone s3, im getting status IN_PROGRESS and then PAUSED
Jan 05 20:51:27 <ondroed> why?
Jan 05 20:52:18 <DrGonzo> with the MediaCodec in mode encoder... I shouldn't need to specify what are the key frames right?
Jan 05 20:52:45 <DrGonzo> presentation time should be all that is needed with a pixel buffer
Jan 05 21:04:08 <_genuser_> anybody here dissatisfied with canary?
Jan 05 21:04:18 <_genuser_> I'm thinking of moving to canary after having heard good things about the new emulator.
Jan 05 21:04:53 <danijoo> crashes from time to time for me
Jan 05 21:04:56 <danijoo> beside that, no
Jan 05 21:04:58 <danijoo> its fine
Jan 05 21:05:31 <danijoo> i still have a working 1.5.1 installation arround though - you never know..
Jan 05 21:06:45 <g00s> einteresting, bluetooth hub/repeater http://en.cassianetworks.com
Jan 05 21:06:51 <cwek> What should I google for to get the "facebook app refresh". When user scrolls up till the top the page should refresh
Jan 05 21:06:55 <_genuser_> ok, sounds like a plan. I'll try to move to it and if it crashes too much, I'll see if I can move back to 1.5.1
Jan 05 21:07:11 <danijoo> cwek, ¨swipe to refresh¨
Jan 05 21:07:12 <_genuser_> danijoo: ^ :). thanks.
Jan 05 21:07:12 <g00s> cwek thats in the support lib
Jan 05 21:07:16 <cwek> danijoo: thanks
Jan 05 21:07:24 <danijoo> cwek, what g00s said
Jan 05 21:07:37 <danijoo> but im sure facebook built their own. the one in support doesnt scale :p
Jan 05 21:07:42 <_genuser_> now, to figure out how to force a layout programmatically to be a marginLeft:0
Jan 05 21:07:44 <g00s> danijoo lol !
Jan 05 21:07:48 <I440r> is it possible to copy data from one part of a bitmap to another part of that same bitmap?
Jan 05 21:08:08 <I440r> or do i need to copy the bit i need to move to another bitmap then overwrite the original?
Jan 05 21:08:33 <danijoo> _genuser_, view.getLayoutParams().setMargins(...)
Jan 05 21:08:45 <I440r> hmm maybe a good candidate for a native routine?
Jan 05 21:09:12 <_genuser_> danijoo: :) nice. I'm having a pretty annoying time with this simple piece of crap thing. it's taken too many hours.
Jan 05 21:10:29 <_genuser_> danijoo: apparently I can't call that on a DialogFragments getView(). setMargins
Jan 05 21:11:07 <danijoo> _genuser_, yup
Jan 05 21:11:07 <_genuser_> I440r: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2358460/how-to-copy-a-smaller-bitmap-into-a-larger-one
Jan 05 21:11:13 <_genuser_> I440r: should give you a starting point.
Jan 05 21:11:26 <I440r> no. thats copying data from bitmap A to bitmap B. i already know how to do that
Jan 05 21:11:35 <I440r> i want to copy part of bitmap A into another part of bitmap A
Jan 05 21:12:00 <I440r> without going through bitmap B as a staging buffer
Jan 05 21:12:03 <_genuser_> I440r: but in this case, you already have the code to copy to point x in bitmap B. You just need to code to "copy from point Y in bitmap A"
Jan 05 21:12:21 <_genuser_> I440r: which I think I remember using decoderegion for some stuff like that a long while ago.
Jan 05 21:12:56 <I440r> i just looked at that, does not seem to help me with a ONE bitmap data copy
Jan 05 21:12:57 <_genuser_> I440r: so I was thinking copy point 1 from bitmap A using decoderegion, then copy it to point 2 in the same bitmap A.
Jan 05 21:13:15 <_genuser_> I440r: ah, I see. I just throwing out quick ideas from what I remember from when I was working on those.
Jan 05 21:13:23 <I440r> thats copy retion of A into tmp, copy tmp to region b of A. not what im trying to do
Jan 05 21:13:34 <_genuser_> I440r: understood.
Jan 05 21:13:35 <_genuser_> :)
Jan 05 21:13:42 <I440r> i think this cant be done without ndk which is not a problem for me heh
Jan 05 21:13:56 <_genuser_> nice. because ndk would be a stopping point for me.
Jan 05 21:14:11 <_genuser_> I'd be like, pfft, a new thing to learn? nah... "it can't be done."
Jan 05 21:14:53 <I440r> _genuser_, if you learned forth you could use my ndk forth and... it would be trivial for you to do it :)
Jan 05 21:15:17 <I440r> NOW i just have to add the hooks to work directly on bitmaps it it :)
Jan 05 21:15:49 <I440r> hrm actually, in this case this is not as trivial as im making it out to be
Jan 05 21:16:15 <I440r> theres all kinds of pixel density, data format issues :/
Jan 05 21:17:31 <I440r> the simple solution is to use a tmp bitmap :/
Jan 05 21:18:00 <I440r> really REALLY dont want to do that. trying to minimize garbage and this way would require TWO data copies.
Jan 05 21:18:25 <I440r> does anyone know if this can be accomplished with a single data copy from one part of bitmap A to another part of bitmap A?
Jan 05 21:19:35 <_genuser_> I440r: i have run out of mem, just loading a single bitmap in mem. so yeah totally undersatnd the part about not wanting two open.
Jan 05 21:20:25 <I440r> _genuser_ yup
Jan 05 21:23:13 <I440r> ndk bitmap-plasma example might help... MAYBE.  i have yet to see a single example project from google that doesnt bury the small piece of information you need in gigls of source puke
Jan 05 21:23:30 <I440r> Google Engineer: We need an example of how to draw a sprite into a view
Jan 05 21:23:39 <_genuser_> took me a while to realize, but google actually doesn't care about quality.
Jan 05 21:24:04 <_genuser_> as long as their ad business is running, they just pretend to be innovation machine and leave a bunch of nerds to figure out whatever they want.
Jan 05 21:24:18 <I440r> Google Manager: Good idea, write a multi user invaders game with sound effects and music and a chat method
Jan 05 21:24:27 <_genuser_> generally they lack an overall direction in anything not related to "be evil, try to take over the world, make money"
Jan 05 21:24:54 <I440r> google is in the business of making money for google. period
Jan 05 21:25:19 <_genuser_> true that. but generally companies try to have a certain level of quality for stuff they put out.
Jan 05 21:25:29 <_genuser_> even if it's free. but google doens't care about any of that.
Jan 05 21:25:45 <I440r> i think the operation im trying to do is sooooo fundamentally basic that im blown away by the lack of code to do it :/
Jan 05 21:26:04 <_genuser_> is this for a work project? Or a personal proj?
Jan 05 21:26:26 <I440r> im currently working on two related projects. an ndk forth and a game that uses it
Jan 05 21:26:45 <I440r> the real purpose for the game is to help develop the lib.
Jan 05 21:26:58 <_genuser_> very nice and very involved. :)
Jan 05 21:27:14 <I440r> the purpose of the lib is to give people like you the ability to do ndk development without needing to know anything at all about jni or ndk dev
Jan 05 21:27:22 <I440r> just write you a script and boom its dun dun
Jan 05 21:27:59 <I440r> i dont have a coding job right now. i work at jasons deli in dallas at $8.50 an hour
Jan 05 21:29:39 <_genuser_> jasons deli!!!
Jan 05 21:29:50 <I440r> good food but expensive
Jan 05 21:29:52 <_genuser_> there's a name I haven't heard in a while. I remember going there on Sundays 15 years ago
Jan 05 21:30:05 <_genuser_> I used to love the cold sandwiches
Jan 05 21:30:25 <I440r> i always get one of their baked potato's when i eat from there :)
Jan 05 21:30:53 <I440r> they take TWO very large potatos, cook them, chop a bit of one end of both and mash them together
Jan 05 21:30:58 <_genuser_> oh, I remember Baker Brothers. Fully loaded spud!!! mmmm..
Jan 05 21:31:13 <I440r> then thers butter and cheeze and chunks of chicken breast and spices !!!!!!!
Jan 05 21:31:21 <_genuser_> I don't remember trying the baked portato as jason's deli.
Jan 05 21:31:22 <I440r> amg feed a family of 5 for a week lol
Jan 05 21:31:30 <I440r> they have a few
Jan 05 21:31:33 <_genuser_> bacon bits!!
Jan 05 21:31:36 <_genuser_> don't forget bacon bits.
Jan 05 21:31:59 <I440r> they have the plane jane, the pollo mexicano and the texas spud which is not on the menu but is on the menu :)
Jan 05 21:32:04 <I440r> i think they have another too
Jan 05 21:32:12 <I440r> nom nom nom
Jan 05 21:32:30 <Beardless_One> quelqun_dautre:  I don't know if you're still around but it turns out there's a FAILED_BINDER_TRANSACTION message in the logs and the MediaService Client constructor is never getting called on our videoviews
Jan 05 21:32:56 <_genuser_> ok, lunch time. I'm hungry now.
Jan 05 21:33:01 <Beardless_One> It looks like someone else had the exact same issue we're having, the oddly specific number of 9000 plays breaks the videoview
Jan 05 21:33:02 <I440r> lol
Jan 05 21:33:25 <Beardless_One> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29552232/android-videoview-take-turns-playing-failed
Jan 05 21:33:58 <Beardless_One> he had an exception logged, but I think it's a red herring, we're only getting the Binder error
Jan 05 21:40:50 <DrGonzo> hi, i'm recording a video using the Camera and MediaRecorder class. If i record a 2 second video... i get a 1 second video on disk
Jan 05 21:40:58 <DrGonzo> is there a way to make that video 2 seconds?
Jan 05 21:58:36 <I440r> record 3 seconds?
Jan 05 22:00:32 <morenoh149> any idea why I get a nullpointerexception here? https://gist.github.com/morenoh149/d32f011bf820710a56ef#file-android-src-main-java-com-rt2zz-reactnativecontacts-contactsmanager-java-L265
Jan 05 22:08:34 <Spider> can anyone tell me how to get full play store access on android tv? using adb?
Jan 05 22:09:33 <milkshake> Can AsyncTask be registered in Manifest file ?
Jan 05 22:09:35 <Spider> i have already got the app woking without play services force closing but when i surf it still just give me the leanback apps
Jan 05 22:10:29 <Spider> nvidia offers root adb access through a stock firmware flash so i want to try it that way if possible
Jan 05 22:11:15 <g00s> Spider see the channel's topic
Jan 05 22:12:02 <Spider> i thought what i was doing was on the applications layer sorry
Jan 05 22:18:19 <danijoo> milkshake, that makes no sense?
Jan 05 22:18:43 <danijoo> what behaviour do you expect from the registration
Jan 05 22:31:30 <milkshake> Which of the CursorAdapter()  methods closes the previously saved Cursor object? changecursor or swapcursor
Jan 05 22:32:48 <milkshake> according to what i read is changecursor is the answer
Jan 05 22:33:10 <milkshake> but i am not sure
Jan 05 22:33:10 <danijoo> milkshake, its explained in the docs
Jan 05 22:33:47 <danijoo> one of the method descriptions contains "cursor will be closed" :P
Jan 05 22:39:37 <milkshake> thank you i found the answer already
Jan 05 22:55:50 <grekkos> is there a way to check the versionCode of an app on my device? I don't have visibility into the play store to check the current version number but I want to make sure my I increment it for the latest version
Jan 05 22:57:04 <grekkos> if it's not possible I can probably reach out to the owners before launch, I was just curious if there's anything I can do on my end before that
Jan 05 22:57:46 <orbyt_> the version number of the app? settings?
Jan 05 22:58:01 <grekkos> that will get me the "versionName"
Jan 05 22:58:06 <grekkos> i want the "versionCode"
Jan 05 22:58:17 <grekkos> or am I looking in the wrong spot?
Jan 05 22:58:19 <milkshake> can you tell the things do with a Cursor object returned from a database query.
Jan 05 23:02:09 <liuwenhao> https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html How many years until we can stop supporting below API 21? 2018? 2020?
Jan 05 23:03:57 <fizzie> grekkos: If nothing else, you can adb pull the .apk out of your device (presumably), and then "aapt dump badging whatever.apk"; the first line will be "package: ... versionCode='XXX' ..."
Jan 05 23:07:26 <fizzie> grekkos: Oh, or easier: "adb shell pm dump your.app.package | grep versionCode".
Jan 05 23:10:24 <explodes> When you use .fit() and/or .centerInside(), does picasso wait for a size to become available or does it use the current size?
Jan 05 23:11:17 <JakeWharton> fit waits
Jan 05 23:11:45 <grekkos> fizzie: ah thanks!
Jan 05 23:13:30 <grekkos> fizzie: that worked perfectly ;)
Jan 05 23:14:50 <fizzie> No problem. I remembered having seen it somewhere, but not quite that it was 'pm dump'.
Jan 05 23:15:17 <grekkos> I found the aapt solution on stack overflow but not the adb one
Jan 05 23:15:22 <grekkos> I figured there should be an adb solution
Jan 05 23:16:26 <grekkos> The guy on SO was looking to download his app's apk and check the version number for upgrading...
Jan 05 23:16:42 <grekkos> which seems a little... unorthodox
Jan 05 23:43:11 <mlq> Hi! I am trying to build the stock kernel for the Samsung S6 and it says I should use the arm-eabi-4.8 toolchain which fails to build caused by unrecognized command line options, so I am using the aarch64-linux-android-4.8 since I am building for arm64 anyways. However I can successfully build a kernel module but this fails to load with exec format error. Any ideas?
Jan 05 23:43:38 <danijoo> mlq, wrong channel; read topic;
Jan 05 23:44:27 <justJanne> eh, danijoo, the channel topic says that that fits here
Jan 05 23:44:45 <danijoo> where?
Jan 05 23:44:46 <justJanne> it only says custom ROMs should go to the root channel, but even explicitly names AOSP
Jan 05 23:44:50 <lexton> anyone use parse.com?
Jan 05 23:45:01 <mlq> danijoo: Oh, I am not sure whats wrong with this channel, because I dont want to builda custom rom?
Jan 05 23:45:10 <justJanne> so AOSP questions would, according to the topic, possibly also be fitting here
Jan 05 23:45:21 <danijoo> justJanne, if its not shipped with the phone, its a custom rom is the general consense in hear
Jan 05 23:45:26 <g00s> AOSP stuff is really handles on google groups now
Jan 05 23:45:33 <danijoo> and the topic is _Application_ development
Jan 05 23:45:53 <danijoo> not OS development/building
Jan 05 23:46:00 <justJanne> well, danijoo, I just see the source.android.com hanging in the end.
Jan 05 23:46:35 <g00s> mlq try https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/android-building
Jan 05 23:46:39 <danijoo> yeah because you have to look into the source from time to time for _application_ development :p
Jan 05 23:46:39 <justJanne> But yeah, mlq, this channel focuses on Android userland app development, and only for simple apps, not ones needing daemons with system privileges
Jan 05 23:46:56 <s73v3r> it might fit in, but I’m wondering if any of us have the knowledge to be able to help out
Jan 05 23:46:57 <danijoo> but lets not cherry pick in the topic
Jan 05 23:47:03 <danijoo> general consense here is that it doesnt fit
Jan 05 23:47:10 <danijoo> because we are app developers
Jan 05 23:47:14 <mlq> g00s, justJanne Thanks!
Jan 05 23:48:09 <danijoo> g00s, i didnt make it :( 999xxx installs yesterday xD
Jan 05 23:48:24 <g00s> danijoo i'd take that ;)
Jan 05 23:48:31 <danijoo> but i made it today :)
Jan 05 23:48:43 <g00s> congrats danijoo
Jan 05 23:49:18 <justJanne> with what?
Jan 05 23:49:34 * danijoo puts a bottle of champagne into the channel. Cheers!
Jan 05 23:49:58 <grekkos> danijoo: do you use irssi?
Jan 05 23:50:17 <danijoo> grekkos, nop
Jan 05 23:50:24 <grekkos> guess not :p
Jan 05 23:50:33 <grekkos> I just remembered this is IRC and I have ways to check that on my own haha
Jan 05 23:50:34 <danijoo> you dont guess. you checked it!
Jan 05 23:50:38 <danijoo> * Received a CTCP VERSION from grekkos
Jan 05 23:50:38 <grekkos> hahahaha
Jan 05 23:50:39 <danijoo> :D
Jan 05 23:51:10 <grekkos> irssi underlines _underscored_ words that's why i asked
Jan 05 23:51:28 <danijoo> no its my version of highlighting a word ^^
Jan 05 23:51:48 <danijoo> justJanne, I made my first million (not dollars unfortunatly)
Jan 05 23:51:49 <grekkos> i see
Jan 05 23:51:49 <justJanne> danijoo: sorry to ask again, but which app of yours are we celebrating about?
Jan 05 23:52:00 <justJanne> or is it even an app?
Jan 05 23:52:06 <justJanne> or is it combined all apps together?
Jan 05 23:52:08 <danijoo> thats a secret. but its not tinder :p
Jan 05 23:52:09 <justJanne> sorry :/
Jan 05 23:55:45 <grekkos> first million users?!
Jan 05 23:55:54 <grekkos> I won't pry just wanted to add that
Jan 05 23:56:05 <g00s> wow https://faces.ethz.ch
Jan 05 23:56:40 <orbyt_> lexton: I have used it a bit, do you have a question?
Jan 05 23:57:21 <danijoo> g00s, im scared to do that :p
Jan 05 23:57:51 <danijoo> what if Toast.makeText(this, "You are ugly", LENGTH_LONG).show()
Jan 05 23:57:54 <lexton> I'm trying to get facebook login to work with parse.com, but everyone time the fb dialog comes up and I enter my fb credentials, parse.com states the user is null and the fb user cancelled login
Jan 05 23:58:08 <lexton> I've checked key hashes in the fb developer settings
Jan 05 23:58:27 <lexton> everthing appears to be configured correctly
Jan 05 23:58:47 <vigilancer> it's offtopic probably
Jan 05 23:59:06 <vigilancer> but in annotation processor what "supported options" are for?
Jan 06 00:00:45 <milkshake> can someone explain the exact diffrence between ResourceCursorAdapter and CursorAdapter ?
Jan 06 00:00:58 <orbyt_> lexton: Im assuming you have the facebook auth settings configured in parse projects settings?
Jan 06 00:01:37 <lexton> orbyt_ I need to check them again
Jan 06 00:04:39 <danijoo> milkshake, Iirc the ResourceCursorAdapter is a simplified version of the CursorAdapter which does some of the view inflating for you
Jan 06 00:04:52 <danijoo> like BaseAdapter and ArrayAdapter
Jan 06 00:08:23 <milkshake> danijoo, is this a difference ?
Jan 06 00:08:44 <danijoo> ResourceCursorAdapter extends CursorAdapter
Jan 06 00:09:33 <Lonesoldier728> hey guys, so I am dealing with this issue, I am putting an icon over an image and want to be able to determine if the white or black icon should be displayed based on the specific color of the image... the issue lies in the fact that it is only over a piece of the image (top left) so how do I figure that out? I tried using a transparent background on the icon itself but it just looks ugly? Solutions?
Jan 06 00:33:49 <milkshake> Why do we bind a Service to an Activity?
Jan 06 00:35:29 <Ologn> milkshake, http://developer.android.com/training/run-background-service/create-service.html
Jan 06 00:41:37 <milkshake> could not get the answer Ologn
Jan 06 00:42:19 <Ologn> milkshake, http://developer.android.com/guide/components/bound-services.html
Jan 06 00:46:11 <danijoo> milkshake, binding allows communicating
Jan 06 00:47:47 <milkshake> communicating with user ?
Jan 06 00:48:41 <danijoo> with the service from the activity
Jan 06 00:50:16 <danijoo> but seriously, start reading the docs Ologn linked
Jan 06 00:55:30 <milkshake> why do we need communication between activiy and service
Jan 06 00:56:39 <s73v3r> your service is presumably doing something, which your activity might want to know about
Jan 06 00:57:10 <justJanne> milkshake: You can also run the service in a separate process
Jan 06 00:57:23 <justJanne> by default, a service runs in the same thread (!) even as the activity
Jan 06 00:57:31 <justJanne> read the docts, it’s a bit complicated on Android
Jan 06 01:08:12 <dxgioorz> hello guys
Jan 06 01:08:33 <dxgioorz> how do we pass data from DB to recyclerview ?
Jan 06 01:17:51 <Ologn> dxgioorz, via the adapter
Jan 06 01:18:16 <Ologn> dxgioorz, the adapter pulls data from the DB, makes it into views, and sends them to the recyclerview layout manager
Jan 06 01:26:58 <justJanne> dxgioorz: but make sure to only modify the actual data in the adapter on the UI thread
Jan 06 01:29:49 <I440r> still trying to copy a Rect within bitmap a to another rect within bitmap a.  cant seem to get it to work at all
Jan 06 01:30:15 <I440r> does anyone know if it is possible to copy a region of one bitmap into a different region of the SAME bitmap?
Jan 06 01:30:45 <dxgioorz> justJanne: what do you mean by that UI thread ?
Jan 06 01:32:31 <I440r> i cant even find anything on stackoverflow for this
Jan 06 01:32:43 <I440r> all i can find is copy bitmap A to bitmap B
Jan 06 01:32:52 <I440r> which is exactly what im trying to avoid doing
Jan 06 01:39:25 <pfn> if it's a bitmap and you have access to the pixel data, just copy it yourself?
Jan 06 01:40:13 <I440r> it is a bitmap, how do i get access to the pixel data?
Jan 06 01:40:24 <pfn> you have getPixels and setPixels
Jan 06 01:40:25 <pfn> use them
Jan 06 01:41:37 <pfn> not exactly copy-free, but about as close as you'll get
Jan 06 01:41:38 <I440r> for( x = 0; x < width; x++) { for y = 0; i < height; y++) { do lots of EXTREEEEEEEEMLY slow manipulations here }
Jan 06 01:41:43 <pfn> no
Jan 06 01:42:36 <pfn> read the doc, then come back
Jan 06 01:42:43 <I440r> why cant i have two Rects on the same bitmap/canvas and copy region 1 to region 2?
Jan 06 01:43:20 <pfn> write the api like that if you want
Jan 06 01:43:20 <s73v3r> for the same reason you can’t do an easy filter of a collection, instead you have to step through each element
Jan 06 01:43:26 <pfn> that's what getpixels/setpixels would do for you
Jan 06 01:44:30 <I440r> tmp = getPixels()  setpixles(tmp) ??? thas still creating a temp store for the data. its also still two copy operations
Jan 06 01:45:59 <pfn> you would have that regardless
Jan 06 01:46:05 <I440r> yup. getPixels() copies them into a int[] buffer wasting memory and taking TWO copy operations to move the data from one location to another location in the same bitmap
Jan 06 01:46:07 <I440r> why?
Jan 06 01:46:33 <I440r> why can i not copy region 1 of a bitmap into region 2 of the same bitma?
Jan 06 01:46:36 <I440r> p
Jan 06 01:47:11 <I440r> the entire point here is to avoid using any more memory than i absolutely have to
Jan 06 01:47:18 <I440r> even on the stack
Jan 06 01:47:32 <pfn> because it's not a common operation anyone wants to do?
Jan 06 01:47:33 * pfn shrugs
Jan 06 01:47:51 <I440r> copying data from bitmap tp temp then from temp back to the bitmap is two operations. this should be a one operation operation
Jan 06 01:48:19 <pfn> then get at it from jni
Jan 06 01:49:48 <I440r> my question still stands.. what exactly prevents my copy of region a to region b in the same bitmap/canvas from working?
Jan 06 01:51:42 <shmoooz> I440r: maybe OpenGL will have a fast bitmap pixels copy
Jan 06 01:52:14 <I440r> shmoooz, its my understanding that android uses opengl under the hood for these things anyway
Jan 06 01:52:15 <I440r> no?
Jan 06 01:52:26 <shmoooz> it does?
Jan 06 01:52:29 <shmoooz> I didn't know
Jan 06 01:52:39 <I440r> i THINK it does... ..
Jan 06 01:54:18 <justJanne> s73v3r: actually, check Collections2.filter(collection, predicate)
Jan 06 01:54:20 <justJanne> you can.
Jan 06 01:54:41 <s73v3r> is that part of android itself, or is it a library that has to be brought in?
Jan 06 01:55:33 <justJanne> Guava, it’s half in android
Jan 06 01:55:39 <s73v3r> so no
Jan 06 01:55:45 <justJanne> it’s halfway in it
Jan 06 01:56:11 <s73v3r> but not the part that I was requesting
Jan 06 01:56:32 <s73v3r> and as I’m bumping against the dex limit already, i have no interest in pulling in something as large as Guava in
Jan 06 01:56:47 <justJanne> Eh, ProGuard to strip unnecessary classes?
Jan 06 01:57:08 <s73v3r> already there. the point i was trying to make is that it’s not something built in
Jan 06 01:57:58 <I440r> personally i think copying of regions within a single buffer is a very common operation
Jan 06 02:02:21 <I440r> JNI wont help either, it still works on a COPY of the data, not on the data itself
Jan 06 02:03:23 <I440r> wasteful of memory, wasteful of cycles.
Jan 06 02:03:35 <I440r> specially when this will be done on EVERY onDraw()
Jan 06 02:24:21 <vigilancer> Parcelable class must have empty constructor or not?
Jan 06 02:31:26 <drose379> I dont see why it would
Jan 06 02:31:49 <drose379> Just needs one that accepts Parcel
Jan 06 02:43:30 <shmoooz> I got it, I will make a simple app, called PocketCats!
Jan 06 02:44:03 <shmoooz> I will be rich!
Jan 06 02:47:21 <btn> How can an activity return to its parent and pass additional information? Specifically, I am making a "connect" activity which will handle the UI for helping the user connect to a specific wifi network, once connected I want to return to the main activity and change the icon to a "disconnect" icon.
Jan 06 02:47:31 <btn> if the connection was successful
Jan 06 02:55:46 <g00s> new dashboard http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
Jan 06 02:56:24 <Leeds> OMG 100% lollipop+!
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