**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 01 02:59:58 2016 Mar 01 03:05:52 g00s: did you find any docs on the daynight theme? From what i've gathered you set the theme and then use appropriate qualifiers for resources, then set defaults with AppCompatDelegate Mar 01 03:06:17 only info I can find on it though is the blog post and the summary here: http://developer.android.com/tools/support-library/index.html Mar 01 03:06:45 i can't use it to switch between my 3 dark themes Mar 01 03:07:17 right, was wondering if you came across any good docs on it though Mar 01 03:07:42 no Mar 01 03:07:56 chris medium post is pretty good though ... Mar 01 03:08:20 https://medium.com/@chrisbanes/appcompat-v23-2-daynight-d10f90c83e94#.w3eks0wl6 Mar 01 03:08:26 ah cool thanks Mar 01 03:11:32 > pfn | man, wish maven central sync didn't take forever... Mar 01 03:11:36 eveyone wishes that Mar 01 03:15:33 gordon_, I mean as in publishing Mar 01 03:17:24 this too Mar 01 03:17:28 gordon_, coursier-sbt-plugin is pretty good now Mar 01 03:17:53 never heard of it, reading Mar 01 03:18:08 oh, replacement for ivy Mar 01 03:18:25 wtf, I published keepassj 2 hours ago, it still hasn't sync Mar 01 03:20:47 happens Mar 01 03:20:58 same with linux servers ;) Mar 01 03:27:17 fuck it, I'll just publish-local Mar 01 03:41:35 bankai_ http://www.gizmag.com/australia-shark-spotting-drones/42096/ Mar 01 03:41:41 the dogs are safe ! Mar 01 03:42:18 hahah that's cool Mar 01 03:49:13 g00s: why are you so against bus libraries? This is awesome Mar 01 03:49:35 although I'm glad I implemented the callbacks first Mar 01 03:51:28 RustyShackleford not totally against buses. then can be convenient sometimes for certain cases Mar 01 03:51:52 but generally, chucking events all over the place is poor programming Mar 01 03:52:05 I see how that can be misleading Mar 01 03:52:37 I'm trying to keep all event handling in one place. Only in the host Activity Mar 01 03:52:41 may people moved from buses to rxjava pipelines Mar 01 03:52:56 isn't that sort of a hack? I think rxjava is a different use case Mar 01 03:53:04 so the flow events is explicit in the chain, and rx gives you composability and error handling Mar 01 03:53:19 i dont mean using rxjava as event bus Mar 01 03:53:40 i mean, redesigning how your app handles events and restrict those to explicitly defined pipelines Mar 01 03:53:58 know of a code example? Mar 01 03:54:17 I'm already using rxjava. One fewer library is good Mar 01 03:54:38 not really. its a shift in thinking, not converting otto to BehaviorSubject Mar 01 03:55:07 or green robot, etc Mar 01 03:55:22 rxjava is for streams. green robot seems perfect for "user picked this item" Mar 01 03:55:33 nope Mar 01 03:55:46 user picked this item is a stream that gets composed into other streams Mar 01 03:56:48 pretty much the only thing i'd use event bus for now is chucking events that need to go to analytics, because i don't want analytics all over the place in my code ... Mar 01 03:57:06 but i have to look at maybe AOP helping me there Mar 01 03:58:31 I think I see what you're saying now Mar 01 03:58:43 although i'm not sure how to set it up Mar 01 04:00:46 I can picture responding to the message in onNext(). Not sure what the message sender would do Mar 01 04:04:41 abusing rxjava for an observer pattern is pretty lame Mar 01 04:07:46 I don't know, it's a good start. Mar 01 04:08:08 Instead of reinveinting an observer/listener interface, just use the ones from Rx Mar 01 04:08:38 Makes you comfortable with them, you can probably get rid of dozens of mini interfaces you wrote in your code base, now it's all uniform Mar 01 04:08:44 And now, the real power of Rx opens up Mar 01 04:11:21 CedricBeust: what is the real power of rx then? Mar 01 04:11:38 That's a long story Mar 01 04:11:53 Baby steps, first recognize the value of having one universal observer pattern Mar 01 04:16:14 sure, agree, but rx is overkill Mar 01 04:16:28 and for the most part, the vast majority of the usage is for an observer pattern Mar 01 04:17:54 If you don't feel like adding it as a dependency, at least write interfaces that are compatible with Rx (onNext(), onComplete(), onError()) to make future migration easier Mar 01 04:19:45 already using RxAndroid so thats not a problem Mar 01 04:20:05 now I'm debating whether or not I want to use green robot as well Mar 01 04:20:45 There are pros and cons, but if you're not comfortable with Rx yet, go with the event bus, safer route Mar 01 04:21:33 it does seem simpler for now. I'm sorta wanting to just write this app Mar 01 04:21:48 I've been researching/experimenting with different libraries for like two weeks Mar 01 04:22:09 Then go ahead, use the bus, reach your goal Mar 01 04:22:20 Once you're there, you can setp back and reflect Mar 01 04:22:25 right Mar 01 04:22:41 no matter how hard I try, its not going to be perfect hah Mar 01 04:23:13 Yes. I'll take shipping something imperfect over not shipping something perfect any day. Mar 01 04:23:50 that is the maddening part about programming Mar 01 04:23:53 its never perfect Mar 01 04:25:41 dumb/newb question.. how do I change a switchpreference from the left/right toggle-ish icon to the on\off style toggle? Having a hard time finding the right terms to google. Mar 01 04:43:19 CedricBeust: have you used rx before ? Mar 01 04:44:07 I like rxjava, but testing it is quite boilerplate Mar 01 04:44:53 gordon_: Quite a bit, wrote a series of articles about it http://beust.com/weblog/2015/03/23/android-rx-and-kotlin-a-case-study/ Mar 01 04:46:25 why is it single threaded Mar 01 04:46:39 I mean server calls Mar 01 04:47:25 ok, part2 is mulithreaded Mar 01 04:48:13 .subscribeOn(Schedulers.io()) Mar 01 04:48:19 this is fail in unit tests btw Mar 01 04:48:25 BilldaCat, SwitchPreference was added in API 14 Mar 01 04:49:03 So if your app allows for pre-14, that has to be taken into account Mar 01 04:49:25 Ologn: it doesn't, it's set for min of 14 Mar 01 04:50:23 i'm just trying to get the on\off style like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/nxlD6.jpg instead of these: https://material-design.storage.googleapis.com/publish/material_v_4/material_ext_publish/0Bzhp5Z4wHba3eWRXVkNtT05wNDg/settings_switch1.png Mar 01 04:50:28 and i'm not sure how to do that Mar 01 04:55:06 Right...I would guess somewhere the old style is being pointed to...as in style. Maybe in res/values/styles.xml or the manifest? Mar 01 04:55:50 I think Holo is the style you want Mar 01 04:56:37 ahhh ok. so that's where i need to look into changing it, thanks. Mar 01 04:56:47 appreciate it Mar 01 06:34:54 morning guys. is it normal for dagger to make it into a production build as dependency. using a third party library and it's really entwined. Mar 01 06:35:12 I haven't had the privilage of doing any testing in my android work as of yet :/ Mar 01 06:35:51 so if I build a .jar, then dagger will inadvertently ship with the final build of my app. Mar 01 06:36:02 just want to make sure that's normal. Mar 01 06:37:11 DysonReturns out of curiosity, what 3rd party lib depends on it ? Mar 01 06:37:56 a semi complete lib which does Disqus integration. let me find a link Mar 01 06:38:22 https://github.com/markrebhan/disqus-android-sdk Mar 01 06:39:45 yeah, uses a bunch of stuff https://github.com/markrebhan/disqus-android-sdk/blob/master/disqus-sdk/build.gradle Mar 01 06:40:32 DysonReturns: Nothing wrong with shipping with Dagger Mar 01 06:40:54 not sure what the best practice is for libraries that want DI - i thought they should depend on the JSR 330 jar Mar 01 06:41:21 puts my mind at ease a bit. i don't mind it heavily relying on the squareup http stuff, since I always use those anyway. Mar 01 06:41:28 thanks for the info Mar 01 06:44:10 classpath 'com.android.tools.build:gradle:1.0.0' Mar 01 06:44:12 oh yeah Mar 01 06:49:39 hah. Mar 01 06:50:00 I use the new gradle stuff as much as possible, but still staving off Studio 2.0 Mar 01 06:51:02 had a situation a few days back where a build didn't work with the SugarORM. its like that fresh install doesn't run what's required to init the db. Mar 01 06:53:04 i don't know the symantics. even an uninstall and then running the build it feels like a some sort of hot swap still happens and it doesn't register what its supposed to. studio 1.5 with same build toolset otherwise didn't have the same issue. so i'm back on that now and missing Instant Run dearly. Mar 01 06:54:47 the performance from 2.8-> 2.9 and up is really good on incremental builds. Mar 01 06:54:57 of the wrapper Mar 01 06:58:40 analytics ftw Mar 01 06:58:54 I finally got Google Analytics working on one of my apps Mar 01 07:06:45 Guys, is it better to inflate views inside a recyclerview, or seperate those views to be inflated outside it? Mar 01 07:07:40 I want to put some views on bottom and above a recyclerview, but it doesn't really work as the recycler view is scrollable Mar 01 07:12:38 depends on what you want Mar 01 07:12:45 obviously, if it scrolls, it should probably go inside the recyclerview Mar 01 07:18:24 Hi people! Could someone help me with CTS please! Mar 01 07:18:31 I'm running CTS android.renderscript on a x86 device running android 4.2.2_r1.2 Mar 01 07:18:34 http://hanhuy-acra.appspot.com/public/com.hanhuy.android.irc.lite/e039b441b1205d79f4d936ea737fb37bbb8ffa5b Mar 01 07:18:41 and I get "process crashed". here's what I see in logs: Mar 01 07:18:43 lol, someone randomly submitted that as a logcat Mar 01 07:19:00 D/RenderScript_jni(25091): MessageThread exiting. V/RenderScript(25091): 0xb80ab2b8 rsContextDestroy V/RenderScript(25091): 0xb80ab2b8 Context::~Context V/RenderScript(25091): 0xb80ab2b8 RS Thread exiting V/RenderScript(25091): 0xb80ab2b8 RS Thread exited F//system/bin/app_process(25091): stack corruption detected: aborted Mar 01 07:19:05 so what can I do with that stack corruption issue? Mar 01 07:20:58 renderscript has some major issues with some x86 devices, that's all i know, probably because of some faulty RS driver shipped, idk if you can use RS support on CTS tests but that might help, also check b.android.com issues in case it's a known one Mar 01 07:28:23 adq filed a bug, wasn't assigned to anyone :( Mar 01 07:28:49 i think if it isn't triaged in 3 days or so its essentially dead Mar 01 07:30:00 link? Mar 01 07:31:21 star if you can, don't think it matters any more https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=202037 Mar 01 07:31:29 misspelled support :| Mar 01 07:32:43 i googled around, seems like people see different things with this. they made some changes to the nested fragment support in 23.2 Mar 01 07:33:14 g00s: PR pending to upgrade to support 3.2.0 Mar 01 07:33:29 3.2.0 O.o Mar 01 07:34:35 ahah sorry g00s, last time i submitted a bug about log verbosity... https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=201541 Mar 01 07:34:57 adq lol yeah i saw that :D Mar 01 07:35:00 :() Mar 01 07:35:08 but in this case the fragments are going into bad states Mar 01 07:35:16 its just that we get a nice warning :D Mar 01 07:35:25 sometimes they don't show up in the viewPager Mar 01 07:35:52 man this 23.2.0 compat latest update... so many issues Mar 01 07:36:20 the dreaded WrongForum Mar 01 07:36:27 I've seen some applications start up by showing an overlay with arrows pointing to important features. Is there some simple way to implement that? In particular, to make sure that the arrows align nicely over the widgets to which they point? Mar 01 07:37:11 adq long time ago, android 4.1 x86 images were spewing out hundreds of entries per second ... Mar 01 07:37:23 you couldn't see shit unless a strict filter was applied Mar 01 07:38:14 yup i remember, android is still extremely verbose and i found these logs rarely useful Mar 01 07:43:36 people Mar 01 07:43:51 how to disable recyclerview items clicking ? Mar 01 07:44:38 or may there is a way to disable whole recyclerview ? Mar 01 07:47:05 ondroed: the second answer is to visibility:gone Mar 01 07:47:08 :D Mar 01 07:47:10 jk Mar 01 07:48:56 no Mar 01 07:49:12 i need it to be visible, but disable Mar 01 07:49:19 disabled as fuck Mar 01 07:49:30 you can override the clicking listener inside viewholder iirc Mar 01 07:50:09 or just set clickable false to recyclerview Mar 01 07:50:27 it does not help Mar 01 07:50:58 huh? Mar 01 07:51:06 recyclerview items don't click, unless you give them a click listener Mar 01 07:51:13 or a click-reactive background/foreground Mar 01 07:51:21 y-yea Mar 01 07:51:28 they have click listener Mar 01 07:51:40 if you register it then its clickable Mar 01 07:51:52 then remove the click listener Mar 01 07:52:03 seems rather obvious Mar 01 07:53:23 it's not conveniently Mar 01 07:54:16 then write something to make it convenient Mar 01 08:06:05 morning fellas Mar 01 08:07:07 good morning Mar 01 08:34:44 sci-fic: morning Mar 01 09:13:31 good morning boys and girls, or ladies and gentlemen's or just developers :P Mar 01 09:16:04 morning Number5 Mar 01 09:21:23 * Ankhwatcher suggests "fleshbags" Mar 01 09:23:27 good morning boys and girls, and developers* Mar 01 09:25:51 anyone notice any issues downloading from dl.google.com, example: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/studio/install/1.5.0.4/android-studio-bundle-141.2422023-windows.exe keeps giving me "network error" after about 75% downloaded Mar 01 09:25:57 good morning is an oxymoron Mar 01 09:39:01 Does anyone know a nice compass library I can use? I made one myself, but the animation doesn't work well because I get too many sensor events per second. Mar 01 09:43:57 can anyone please help solve this issue? https://github.com/ftwhlp/TTS/issues/1 Mar 01 09:45:00 ftwhlp may be a clean+build as the first step? Mar 01 09:45:34 I did clean and it said build successful. However then I rrun debug, and it comes up with the same errors again Mar 01 09:46:01 (am a beginner) Mar 01 09:46:08 ... and I don't see the repo structured correctly for an Android Studio project. Mar 01 09:49:18 Hey.. can an NDK developer work directly with HAL? Mar 01 09:50:34 Not worried about "should he" I'm wondering "can he" Mar 01 09:53:12 napster: could you please let me know what other files are missing, I only uploaded where the errors came up as the full project is located elsewhere on github Mar 01 09:53:30 Hello everyone, is ther anyway i can get the name of activity i am on in android studio LogCat Mar 01 09:53:37 hi guys! I want to create a test environment for testing arbitrary apps with the emulator. what's the recommended way to get an execution log of an app? logcat can't be filtered for one app right? i can not change the code of the application. The problem is, i dont want exceptions from the system itself or other apps in the execution log, when i evaluate it. Mar 01 09:54:06 I have the app running on my phone and i want to get the activity name when i load the activty Mar 01 09:57:56 can anyone advise once I have cleaned the project, the next step is Build > rebuild? Mar 01 10:07:15 ftwhlp Can you make sure your project is structured correctly? Mar 01 10:07:50 may be get familiarised with Android Studio first? Mar 01 10:21:16 hi, how does AV for android works? where i can find more information about it? (all i found so far is useless article like "Android antivirus apps are useless") Mar 01 10:22:00 then it wasnt useless article Mar 01 10:22:40 yes but i am looking for technical information how they detect. what are the methods Mar 01 10:22:43 Who need antivirus? Mar 01 10:23:19 i know that antivirus isnt needed but i want to learn how they works Mar 01 10:23:36 oh Mar 01 10:26:35 someone? Mar 01 10:27:38 I think most people here would disagree with your premise that they work Mar 01 10:33:46 Bored: If you figure it out, please post a gist? The idea that an app crosses the sandbox is rather interesting. Mar 01 10:49:46 I'm looking to create a sound in android via NDK.. Most examples for NDK sound include playing a sound file. Anyone know how to make sound.. I'm looking for a simple sound generator. Mar 01 10:51:34 what do you mean Mar 01 10:51:45 like making some raw data and then playing it? i.e. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9137297/generating-sounds-without-a-library Mar 01 10:52:06 Yeah. that might do it. Mar 01 10:53:38 so probably better look in C/C++ than android, althought youll most likely to find libraries like openal and whatnot which i think are not available for android Mar 01 10:55:44 openSL ES .. Mar 01 10:56:06 if only java had traits... Mar 01 10:57:30 I've a c app running, so I'm digging.. I want to try making sounds at various levels out of different ears Mar 01 11:01:50 baash05, start with a simple sin oscillator at a given frequency, your question is too generic atm Mar 01 11:02:09 Is it better to use fixed vertex data in VBO and then changing size using glScale or updating the vertex data instead? Mar 01 11:02:12 actually that would be perfect.. I'm really fishing. Mar 01 11:03:22 And I don't really have specific questions yet. Mar 01 11:05:04 isnt porn a "sin oscillator" Mar 01 11:13:14 Are Exceptions always priority E and higher in logcat? Mar 01 11:14:21 well E is lowest isnt it Mar 01 11:14:32 ahh there is assert below Mar 01 11:15:43 E is lower than D? Mar 01 11:16:28 what do you mean by priority Mar 01 11:16:30 log level? Mar 01 11:16:32 yes Mar 01 11:17:42 ah ok. in as e is highest. in eclipse it used to be (?) the opposite Mar 01 11:17:50 anyway sometimes exceptions are W Mar 01 11:18:41 Ashiren: Why and when? Mar 01 11:19:15 i.e. in background thread Mar 01 11:19:23 when throwing exception doesnt stop the app Mar 01 11:23:07 alright, ty Mar 01 11:40:37 can a JNI app reach down to the kernal? Mar 01 11:41:04 Hi, anyone willing to work for $, on this app... https://github.com/BenoitDuffez/MyMine Mar 01 11:52:30 baash05, if by reach down to the kernel you mean make system calls, then yes Mar 01 12:02:17 How low (close to the metal) can an app developer go? That is, on an unlocked phone? Mar 01 12:03:39 I suppose only one way to find out :) Mar 01 12:04:02 if the phone is unlocked (as in, you have root) you can do everything the OS can Mar 01 12:05:41 I'm looking for the lowest I can get on an unlocked phone.. Mar 01 12:05:53 oops.. I mean on a locked phone Mar 01 12:06:08 Not sure why I keep typing unlocked. :( Mar 01 12:06:34 ehm, well you can run native code under user-level permissions Mar 01 12:08:39 And could you write kernel level stuff there? Or how about just HAL level stuff? Mar 01 12:08:59 well no, you could trivially compromise the security if you could Mar 01 12:09:16 that would make the distinction locked/unlocked rather nonsensical Mar 01 12:11:28 I'm just playing with the idea of finding out how far down I can go.. As an experiment. Mar 01 12:18:00 Hello Mar 01 12:19:12 I need help integrating gcm with google app engine as app server Mar 01 12:43:44 Do you think is ok to extend views to add some behavior to them? For example, there is a ProgressBar that I use to control some behavior by two or tree methods inside the fragment. I'm thinking to create a custom ProgressBar that incorporate these methods. Do you think it's ok ? or should I avoid it ? Mar 01 12:45:22 I think its ok Mar 01 12:46:39 I do the same to textViews wen I need a custom behaviour Mar 01 12:47:23 Why can't I access setVisibility from inside ProgressDialog ? Mar 01 12:48:22 wviana: its called a custom view Mar 01 12:48:30 basically when you need custom behaviour Mar 01 12:49:10 jvrodrigues: Do you know why I can't access the method setVisibility inside my custom view ? Mar 01 12:50:06 not even this, super or just the method. :( Mar 01 12:51:30 ofc you can Mar 01 12:51:50 as long as it extends View Mar 01 12:52:05 Material Design guidelines advices me to use #FFFFFF on 50%. I can set textColor="#FFFFFF" but how do I get 50% ? Mar 01 12:55:39 I am working on gcm with google app engine module as backend server Mar 01 12:55:47 I got this error: http://pastebin.com/pMTGv78K Mar 01 12:55:53 Do you know some expression in english to when your doing something really stupid for not paying attention ? Mar 01 12:55:57 I looked it up and it had to do with having more than 65k methods which was weird cuz I used a new /blank project and the way round it is to enable multiDex in build.gradle Mar 01 12:56:16 I have always seen multiDex as something to avoid as I have read that it slows down apps. Is there any other way to use Google App engine without enabling multiDex as in am I implementing it the right way? Mar 01 12:56:29 Nnabueze: thats because you are importing the WHOLE google play library Mar 01 12:56:34 and you shouldnt if you are only using gcm Mar 01 12:56:54 compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services-gcm:8.1.0' Mar 01 12:56:59 user only that one Mar 01 12:57:26 ok thanks Mar 01 12:57:33 would change it now Mar 01 12:58:33 smallfoot-: #7FFFFFFF Mar 01 12:58:41 jvrodrigues, thanks Mar 01 12:58:42 I think Mar 01 12:59:16 jvrodrigues, I found a lookup table http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15852122/hex-transparency-in-colors#17239853 Mar 01 12:59:36 It says it should be 80, as #80FFFFFF Mar 01 13:00:07 there is no visible difference between 80 and 7F Mar 01 13:00:18 Oh Mar 01 13:00:20 7F is rounding down and 80 is rounding up Mar 01 13:00:25 I see Mar 01 13:01:52 Hey guys. Is there any other way to implement the back navigation while keeping the toolbar from one screen to another, than using addToBackStack() and popBackStack()? Mar 01 13:01:56 Is it how you do it? Mar 01 13:02:31 If I use different activities the toolbar changes, it is visible the change from one screen to another Mar 01 13:02:42 So I intend to use fragment transactions instead Mar 01 13:02:49 Sounds good? Mar 01 13:03:30 Mattx, yes thats wat I use too to navigate between fragments Mar 01 13:04:17 Nnabueze, I'm looking for a behaviour similar to Gmail app when you open an email and press back. Am I on the correct track? Mar 01 13:04:37 (Android 4.4.x) Mar 01 13:06:24 Mattx, I think you are Mar 01 13:07:28 jvrodrigues, thanks it worked Mar 01 13:08:13 Mattx: if you change the layout the action bar is in it will then change Mar 01 13:08:43 Any idea how I can figure out where my stuck app is stuck? like even ballparking what is causing it? Mar 01 13:09:05 jvrodrigues, I know, I'm only changing the content fragment Mar 01 13:09:17 I just don't want the "back animation" to occure Mar 01 13:09:18 what is it that is changing in the action bar mate? Mar 01 13:09:23 hi, can i check the version of my app in google play inside my app? Mar 01 13:09:37 Syzygy: tried logs before and after statements? Mar 01 13:09:39 i need check if has a new version, to force app update Mar 01 13:09:41 is it in the main thread? Mar 01 13:09:47 is it on other threads? Mar 01 13:09:59 jvrodrigues, when you have two activities and press back, the whole screens gets animated and disappear, showing the previous activity instead Mar 01 13:10:12 yes indeed Mar 01 13:10:21 well if you configure it to work that way at least Mar 01 13:11:00 I want the toolbar to keep exactly the same. The only changes are the content fragment and the hamburger icon on the toolbar to a back arrow Mar 01 13:11:16 then only change those things Mar 01 13:11:32 and in your fragments dont set titles or create option menus Mar 01 13:11:32 How do you do that using activities? Mar 01 13:11:43 with activities you cant lol, the action bar will be recreated Mar 01 13:11:48 :/ Mar 01 13:11:58 That's my point. I asked here is the way to go is using fragment transactions instead of activities Mar 01 13:11:59 :) Mar 01 13:15:55 if the * Mar 01 13:18:01 sorry didnt get you I guess Mar 01 13:18:56 Well most applications should use fragments. But applications may have multiple activities too. Mar 01 13:19:16 You should use multiple activities when it makes sense to do so. Such as when handing entirerly differentthings. Mar 01 13:19:52 But sure, use fragments together with drawer or tab bar Mar 01 13:20:28 smallfoot-: thats the first step to start a 5 hours long discussion in this channel that wont get you anywhere Mar 01 13:20:48 some people prefer to use views, others fragments Mar 01 13:21:07 in the end it doesnt really matter, its whatever youre more confortable with Mar 01 13:21:36 Alright Mar 01 13:30:00 hi, can i check the version of my app in google play inside my app? Mar 01 13:30:41 I don't know if that is possible Mar 01 13:47:51 hi, I need to record some events that happen on device and timestamp them. however the datetime on the device can be anything, which is far from ideal Mar 01 13:48:50 I need to come up with a strategy to overcome this problem, even if I ping the server from time to time for correct time, I have to find a way to keep this information updated locally so that I can use it whenever an event happens Mar 01 13:49:55 i tried googling for "local time" "server time" "best effort" and a few other things but came up short of relevant answers. can anyone suggest anything? Mar 01 14:04:48 t0th_-_: you can check the version of your app inside your app, its unrelated to google play though Mar 01 14:05:03 i need check the latest version of app Mar 01 14:05:18 maybe my it is not, i need compare with a google play version Mar 01 14:06:26 t0th_-_, well you know the versioncode, and you are managing the play version, why do you need to read it from there? Mar 01 14:07:51 to force user to update Mar 01 14:08:34 just host the versioncode somewhere on your server/site and use that, it would be a lot more easy Mar 01 14:08:55 alternative way would be to parse the playstore entryand get the version from html Mar 01 14:13:13 Is retrofit-beta4 ready for production? Mar 01 14:20:16 Would anyone be able to help me get wifi going on an android 4.2.2 device? It works as root shell but android will not recognize it's working. Mar 01 14:25:16 Is there a portable way to code apps for both Android and desktop (say Linux)? Mar 01 14:27:35 Eduard_Munteanu: qt, or something html5 related Mar 01 14:27:45 openframeworks too Mar 01 14:27:57 yea probably html5 will be ok for most cases Mar 01 14:28:43 or OGL, check out the Kodi source Mar 01 14:30:35 How do you accept Android 6 permissions in UI/Instrumentation tests? Mar 01 14:34:09 Hi.. It's possible to use getLinkSpeed to calculate uplink and downlink? Mar 01 14:36:28 I have a lib MyLib that I made for my app. In that lib I add a compile statement to add another lib (NotMyLib) that contains some native .so files. If I add MyLib to my app, it complains it can't find the .so files. Is there any way around this? Seems like the only solution is to add the NotMyLib into my app, and then it works, but it actually belongs in MyLib. Mar 01 14:39:02 https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/dependency_management.html Mar 01 14:39:16 transitive dependencies I believe, though I am not sure if it works with so files Mar 01 14:41:56 jvrodrigues: So I'm looking in the aar thats generated by my lib, and I don't see the so files in there. So this means I need to change the build.gradle file of MyLib right? Mar 01 14:42:32 setting transitive = true in the aar dependency statement Mar 01 14:42:34 should in theory work Mar 01 14:43:17 transitive is default Mar 01 14:43:46 Damn Mar 01 14:43:57 wait, it is? Mar 01 14:44:08 of course Mar 01 14:44:23 sounds like your aar is busted, eghdk Mar 01 14:45:08 pfn: But it works when I put MyLib and NotMyLib in my App build.gradle. Mar 01 14:45:31 Now I just want to my NotMyLib into MyLib, and only depend on MyLib in my App Mar 01 14:47:18 rodrigo_golive, hm, is that Qt thing something like GTK's HTML5 backend? Mar 01 14:47:39 i am using a service with alarmmanager, i am setRepeting to every 15 seconds, how i can run this only 5 times? Mar 01 14:47:45 (I know what Qt is, but I'm unclear how Qt helps on Android) Mar 01 14:51:15 Could someone tell me how to troubleshoot this? http://pastebin.com/9Zc6WzBw Mar 01 14:51:28 I guess I'm too lazy for this industry, others just dive in and code 5 variants of an app for the different platforms. :) Mar 01 14:53:11 Would .so's be contained in the .jar in the aar? Mar 01 14:53:53 Hello guys, I want to give my listview cell a drop shadow like the elevation shadow in Lollipop (for example CardView), is there a nice lib for that or does someone know who made some nice xml drawables including a nice shadow one? Thank you. Mar 01 14:54:16 eghdk, no Mar 01 14:54:33 erm, actually, I don't remember Mar 01 14:56:38 pfn: So in MyLib I included NotMyLib which are the .so files for sqlcipher. And theres no sign of any .so when I pull apart the aar of MyLib. Any idea why .so's don't get added to an aar? Mar 01 14:57:10 Anyone have this weird issue where emptying a recyclerview leaves one item on the list Mar 01 14:57:18 it doesn't __actually__ exist, but it's left there UI-wise. Mar 01 14:57:39 and it stays there when the recyclerview is re-populated Mar 01 14:58:35 eghdk, don't know, refer to the gradle aar building docs Mar 01 14:58:43 I don't gradle Mar 01 14:58:57 Do you maven? Mar 01 15:00:29 https://github.com/pfn/android-sdk-plugin/blob/master/src/tasks.scala#L569 Mar 01 15:00:41 .so go in jni/ in the aar Mar 01 15:08:50 pfn: So if I tear down MyLib aar and I don't see a jni folder (should contain the SQLCipher .so's) is that a problem with SQLCipher or MyLib? Mar 01 15:09:51 it's a problem of sql cipher Mar 01 15:10:23 your aar must not rebundle transitive so Mar 01 15:14:14 pfn: Okay. Cool. So one last thing. Any idea why when I bundle the SQLCipher @aar in MyLib AND I bundle MyApp with MyLib + SQLCipher it would complain about duplicate .so files? Mar 01 15:15:03 Because I had to start doing that whole pickFirst 'lib/armeabi/sqlcipherwhatever...' for that not to happen. Mar 01 15:21:01 eghdk, the answer is obvious, it's duplicate because you made it duplicate Mar 01 15:40:36 hi guys quick question Mar 01 15:40:51 quick answer Mar 01 15:40:53 how come the shadow attribute doesnt render for a regular button? Mar 01 15:40:57 yes Mar 01 15:41:11 "shadowColor" Mar 01 15:41:24 I want to give a border to my button text Mar 01 15:41:28 but it wont take! Mar 01 15:42:16 says : "Paint.setShadowLayer is not supported." Mar 01 15:42:28 What the H bro! Mar 01 15:47:57 Eduard_Munteanu: qt has nothing to do with html5, but it's c++ and cross-platform Mar 01 15:57:28 pfn: But the aar doesn't show the jni/so files so how would can it even cocmplain about that. Mar 01 15:57:59 eghdk, because the build loads jni from the classes.jar of direct aar dependencies Mar 01 15:58:42 hi everyone, I am a ruby dev, and now I'am dealing whit an android built, anyone kwno how to make the call from the handset to my server throught https, instead of http: or a blog post or something Mar 01 16:01:55 g00s: sup? Mar 01 16:02:48 Hey all Mar 01 16:03:44 perlsyntax: HAI Mar 01 16:04:29 hey thepoosh . theming my app (this is hard!) Mar 01 16:04:40 hmmmm Mar 01 16:04:44 we have a UI guy for that Mar 01 16:04:46 :P Mar 01 16:06:37 taskwarrior for android released. i use the command line its great Mar 01 16:07:05 cool Mar 01 16:08:22 g00s: I thought themes are easy peasy Mar 01 16:08:46 i think most people change 3 or 4 attributes and call it a day Mar 01 16:09:27 i;m trying to make 2 variants; nv red and nv green which are all red / green on black background - so everything has to be tinted right Mar 01 16:10:16 you can use the day/night themes Mar 01 16:10:31 its not that easy ;) Mar 01 16:11:00 there can't be a pixel anywhere that is not a shade of green or red - Mar 01 16:11:16 guess one thing i can't control are the colors of icons in the status bar, so that stinks Mar 01 16:12:59 i,m surprise you can;t control icon colors.. really? Mar 01 16:13:22 icons in nav & status seem to be white always Mar 01 16:15:29 or black Mar 01 16:15:41 can't we set our own Mar 01 16:16:40 pfn is there any way to control that ? Mar 01 16:18:06 i dont think i've ever seen status / nav icons being black anywhere. maybe the oem does that ? Mar 01 16:18:32