**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 04 02:59:58 2016 Mar 04 03:16:45 TIL Widgets with AlarmManagers don't possess state outside the view, so I'm going to save state via Bitmaps in the view instead of serializable messages. Mar 04 03:20:10 Hold on, I could just serialize a one-dimensional squished array. Mar 04 03:30:40 how can I mock out a REST service that my app depends on? Mar 04 03:31:59 I'm using retrofit and rxjava for all network calls Mar 04 03:32:27 there must be a way to swap a network call with my own response Mar 04 03:33:31 RustyShackleford: probably mockito but I'm not sure if there's something better for android Mar 04 03:33:53 Napalm|afk: used a custom view class and a custom arg since tint can't take a ColorStateList below API 21 Mar 04 03:34:16 like a module I can drop in so I can dev complete offline, or if the server goes down Mar 04 03:35:11 mockito is more for unit testing Mar 04 03:39:12 oh, i thought that's what you wanted? Mar 04 03:39:33 you could use an interface for the calls then have a concrete class that fakes out the server calls Mar 04 03:39:40 that's basically what mockito does anyway Mar 04 03:42:53 you can also probably use something like fiddler to record a bunch of requests/responses Mar 04 03:43:56 its a huge API Mar 04 03:48:21 So if each of my fragments has its own toolbar in xml. What happens if I decide to show the fragments side by side in a tablet layout? Mar 04 03:48:43 Do the toolbars merge? Mar 04 03:48:48 did we all read this? http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/2/11140928/app-store-economy-apple-android-pixite-bankruptcy Mar 04 03:48:54 * Leeds afk Mar 04 03:58:24 hello Mar 04 04:05:03 hey guys, quick question Mar 04 04:06:09 Not very quick Mar 04 04:07:07 How are you guys handling infinite scroll views? Mar 04 04:07:28 an infinite recycler view that's pulling from a data source Mar 04 04:08:22 You load data when you cross a certain threshold of items left in your data set Mar 04 04:08:49 Plenty of google results Mar 04 04:14:00 is setvisibility(View.GONE) meant to remove the background drawable too? Mar 04 04:14:12 because it isn't here, please tell me I'm not going insane Mar 04 04:14:47 wow I can't even get bitmap data from a remoteview Mar 04 04:14:48 ok this is harder than i thought Mar 04 04:19:08 any devs in here? Mar 04 04:19:44 josecalles, pick like 3x positions times fills the screen the mod it Mar 04 04:19:53 and you keep display position and data index Mar 04 04:21:47 JavaLover: I'd say about 364 devs here right now Mar 04 04:21:53 JavaLover, we are are kotlin aficianods. no java. Mar 04 04:22:08 I'm looking to set up a volley for a jsoup parse, could somebody help me with setting up the volley itself? Mar 04 04:22:19 well maybe you guys can help me idk...i'm not sure what kind of an issue this actually is. Mar 04 04:22:33 Basically i'm trying to open a new tab using google chrome mobile via Javascript. Mar 04 04:23:08 If I use window.open('http://www.google.com'); everything is fine YAYYY. But if I put in a google map link..it overwrites my window. I've tried like 15 versions of window.open() and it fails everytime. Mar 04 04:23:32 I just want a new tab and yes I have tried window.open("link","_blank"); Mar 04 04:30:36 no rx channels? ='( Mar 04 04:39:44 does anybody know how to turn on mylocaiton on google maps by default? Mar 04 04:40:07 so the map shows my locations upon loading without clicking mylocation button Mar 04 04:40:26 orbyt_: Ask your rx questions here Mar 04 04:41:01 I may or may not have just solved my issue, will report back Mar 04 04:41:57 CedricBeust: do you have any experience with jsoup? Mar 04 04:42:16 Limited Mar 04 04:43:22 I can't get the part before the document.select() set up correctly Mar 04 04:49:17 CedricBeust: Does Rx have an equivalant to Java Streams .collect()? Mar 04 04:49:28 I'm basically trying to convert this into Rx: https://paste.ee/p/hHpVT Mar 04 04:49:50 Rx doesn't really work like collect() does Mar 04 04:50:01 Transform streams, subscribe to the final values Mar 04 04:51:21 CedricBeust: mind if I pm you a few things? Want to give you a bit more context and see what you suggest Mar 04 04:51:32 Rather not Mar 04 04:51:32 just small code snippets Mar 04 04:51:47 write here Mar 04 04:51:54 well is it alright to post a few Rx and java 8 snippets? Mar 04 04:52:02 didnt want to clutter since its #android-dev Mar 04 04:52:09 Then post to ##java Mar 04 04:52:11 so paste them in pastebin please Mar 04 04:52:18 or in ##java Mar 04 04:52:19 Either way, pastebin Mar 04 04:52:21 Yea was just in java Mar 04 04:52:26 alright 1 sec Mar 04 04:52:36 just in case you dont know Mar 04 04:52:43 you can use streams on android Mar 04 04:52:49 with some 3rd party lib Mar 04 04:53:22 Yes you can. I suggest using Rx instead Mar 04 04:53:30 but whatever you're more comfortable with Mar 04 04:54:34 eh Mar 04 04:54:41 i wish gitter would use just websockets.. Mar 04 04:57:24 Yea im just doing this as proof of concept sorta thing. Anyway, im basically trying to convert this java8 snippet into Rx: http://pastebin.com/ksgf5QFs Mar 04 04:57:33 Here is my current Rx code: http://pastebin.com/YsyZJghz Mar 04 04:58:13 and when subscribing im just getting the 2 elements in the original array, instead of 6 like using the Java8 Stream Mar 04 04:58:25 any kind of insight would be cool Mar 04 05:00:47 If its not apparent, I was using the same mNestedArray variable with the Java8 stream methods Mar 04 05:04:01 are any of your companies hiring junior android developers? Mar 04 05:04:01 CedricBeust from /r/programming https://medium.com/@elviraw/kotlin-and-ceylon-3ee011125b7d#.i6uzhol8c Mar 04 05:04:10 I'm only half joking Mar 04 05:05:37 What, no takers on that code then? Shame. Mar 04 05:10:17 apparent theres a .collect() for rx.. Mar 04 05:10:22 g00s: Ceylon is very interesting but right now, it's gotten zero traction compared to Kotlin. I wish the language good luck though, lots of itneresting concepts in there Mar 04 05:11:03 scala :> Mar 04 05:11:09 lolno Mar 04 05:11:15 Nah Scala is the past Mar 04 05:11:26 nope Mar 04 05:13:46 "I think you really want one of the many "better Java" languages: Ceylon, Kotlin, Xtend, Fantom. I'll stick with Scala because it pushes me to learn genuinely new things instead of doing old things slightly better." Mar 04 05:13:52 sums it up pretty well Mar 04 05:14:16 I like reading about Scala to push my boundaries. It's just not suitable to be productive. Mar 04 05:14:20 Two different things Mar 04 05:14:24 I have the same feeling toward Ceylon Mar 04 05:15:13 Is there anything more in depth for learning android than the official getting started tutorials? Mar 04 05:15:23 *learning android dev Mar 04 05:15:32 belak there are some udacity courses Mar 04 05:16:36 Maybe not that in depth Mar 04 05:16:39 CedricBeust: everyone thinnk that kotlin is some kind of 'silver bullet' and write the same code as they do in java Mar 04 05:16:53 Nobody thinks a language is a silver bullet Mar 04 05:17:03 so they have the same kind of spaghetti with less strokes Mar 04 05:17:08 Lot of people jump on Kotlin because it fixes most of the complaints they have about Java but nothing more. Simple as that. Mar 04 05:17:23 yeah, I wish you were right ;) Mar 04 05:17:41 I guess, recommended books? Or would you really just recommend going through the official tutorial? Mar 04 05:18:48 I've been studying programming languages for more than 30 years, I think I have a pretty good sense of what makes or breaks a language but ultimately, if you're happy using a language, good for you, keep using it Mar 04 05:20:13 CedricBeust: I'm not saying that you dont have good sense Mar 04 05:20:45 I'm just telling you what I think after last conference ;) Mar 04 05:21:25 Conferences have zero indicative power. Selection bias, etc... There are regular COBOL and Lisp conferences. Doesn't mean a thing. Mar 04 05:22:29 marketing does Mar 04 05:22:42 I'm not forcing anyone to use anything Mar 04 05:22:57 dont have power, and will to do so ;) Mar 04 05:23:10 I mean even Typesafe is moving away from Scala, surely that should give people pause, even the most ardent fanatics Mar 04 05:23:45 they are not moving away Mar 04 05:24:05 Their latest new product is Java only Mar 04 05:24:23 for now Mar 04 05:24:33 and what about other products ? Mar 04 05:24:45 akka is doing pretty well Mar 04 05:25:33 There's only so much I can do to fight the delusion. Like I said, enjoy your language, I have no dog in this race. Mar 04 05:26:37 basically, kotlin is svn Mar 04 05:28:10 good for the people who want a better cvs Mar 04 05:29:13 So which language is git :) Mar 04 05:31:25 we wont believe even if we tell you ;) Mar 04 05:32:18 Probably doesn't exist yet Mar 04 05:34:21 jSwift :) Mar 04 05:34:25 * g00s ducks Mar 04 05:36:31 so um, is google planning on putting the newer support lib javadoc on d.android.com :P Mar 04 05:36:53 such a uncoordinated company Mar 04 05:37:06 *agile* Mar 04 05:41:42 CedricBeust have you used AOP on android ? Mar 04 05:41:51 No Mar 04 05:44:56 Interesting fact connecting AOP and Typesafe: a long time ago, I liked AOP a lot and I liked one of its frameworks even more. I wrote a few posts about it. That framework was Aspectwerkz and it was written by.. .Jonas Boner, CTO of Typesafe. I ended up getting him hired to BEA. Mar 04 05:46:13 CedricBeust can AOP solve any practical problems on android, or is it better suited for jse/jee Mar 04 05:46:29 I don't think it's suited to anything any more Mar 04 05:46:31 its been a long time since i looked at aspectJ Mar 04 05:46:40 interesting Mar 04 05:47:30 i remember grady booch saying something like, the AOP community was focusing too much on syntax and not enough on how to apply AOP at the architectureal level Mar 04 05:47:38 or something like that, like they were caught in the weeds Mar 04 05:58:44 oh wow, navigation drawer got addDrawerListener , setDrawerListener is deprecated Mar 04 05:59:06 this is one of those areas, the API / framework guys should settle on some consistency ... Mar 04 05:59:15 make all the things that take listeners, take multiple ones Mar 04 05:59:41 some things take 1, some things take many, very inconsistent Mar 04 06:00:47 in practical terms, what this means now, is that a fragment can listen to the drawer too, in addition to the activity - so now i don't have to forward the event on Mar 04 06:03:36 omg bernie is doing town hall on fox Mar 04 06:30:56 who wants to abolish the fragment in favor a something extensible from you but with tighter interface to activities and other such widget hosts Mar 04 06:31:35 Not easy to come up with something better Mar 04 06:32:39 it seems there should be something though, maybe not easier to build but to use Mar 04 06:32:56 could someone explain the concept of closure, using an example from android ? Mar 04 06:35:27 can a deque be double transvered? Mar 04 06:38:09 CedricBeust, if the rxJava bindings could become more intrisnic to the Android SDK API calls, would it concievable Android would absorb rx into it's code base? Mar 04 06:38:28 (or is that whats becoming koitlin?) Mar 04 06:40:57 The Android team (and Google in general) doesn't have a good track record using, let alone adopting, external stuff Mar 04 06:41:33 What kind of (or are there many used) of tree searching algorithms does the measure / and layout pass(es) use? Mar 04 06:41:58 breadth first? Mar 04 06:43:37 hmp this is curious http://11011110.livejournal.com/279880.html Mar 04 06:45:46 freenode ain't a school, right? Mar 04 06:46:50 as leisure emplyed in learning ithink it could qualify Mar 04 07:02:06 dun dun dun! Mar 04 07:07:17 what aspect of fragments give them their unique or indispensable qualities? Mar 04 07:08:26 they are transistionable view hosts, they have accessible contiguity, and they can run invisibly, what else? Mar 04 07:25:34 these BLU pure XL phones look good http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01612PVV8 Mar 04 08:03:13 I have the following code http://pastie.org/private/7ryjt3yaffzcpfkjoclqnq and get this Exception http://pastie.org/private/teemhgpr6m0dpgos8aezdg I thought the cause could be that the Fragment has a reference to the destroyed Activity, however, the Fragment was just created, since it was null before. Any ideas why this Exception could be happening or how to Mar 04 08:03:13 fix it? Mar 04 08:04:59 maybe post the whole class Mar 04 08:06:31 because the problem lies not in myFragment Mar 04 08:16:32 http://pastie.org/private/ge4ofxe1lcqpa00fg4qryw Mar 04 08:41:36 hi everyone! Mar 04 08:43:05 I have a SurfaceView inside a fragment. When I hide this fragment, I can notice a black rectangle blinking for less than 1s, due to the SurfaceView. Any idea how I can fix this issue? I already tried many things found on stackoverflow without success. Mar 04 08:44:18 try to destroy your surfaceview before hiding the fragment maybe Mar 04 08:44:36 surfaceview is a very special view drilling a hole to bypass views hierarchy & stuff Mar 04 08:45:35 maybe try setZOrderOnTop to see if it helps but i doubt it Mar 04 08:48:54 I will try that, thx for your reply! Mar 04 08:51:44 hey,im trying to find scrollview is scrollable but the result always false,i tried viewtreeobserver and some another ways. any help would be great. Mar 04 08:54:08 shibakaneki, i think the way to do it is add a 0x0px surfaceview near the root of your view Mar 04 08:54:24 lasserix, I tried that without success Mar 04 08:55:01 sci-fic, getScrollAmount compared to right/left/top/bottom? Mar 04 08:55:12 people say to put this 0x0px SurfaceView in the Activity that contains the fragment container Mar 04 08:57:14 let me try Mar 04 08:58:59 I will try to destroy the view or to resize it to 0x0px before switching to the other fragment, as a workaround Mar 04 09:04:14 did you try this? Mar 04 09:04:15 http://stackoverflow.com/a/12636285/3865761 Mar 04 09:04:22 key is in activity root, not fragment Mar 04 09:05:23 I did Mar 04 09:21:08 lasserix, the solution of stackoverflow that you point on is fixing a flicker happening when the fragment appears Mar 04 09:21:39 but there is another flicker happening when the fragment containing the SurfaceView disappear Mar 04 09:21:48 this second flicker is more tricky Mar 04 09:22:41 changing the visibility of the SurfaceView to GONE creates this flicker ( I try to hide the surfaceview before leaving the fragment ), so it is not a solution neither Mar 04 09:39:43 lasserix: i did something, it works but im not sure it is ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/15279523/ :D Mar 04 09:41:21 on my side I just found a workaround to my issue, not really happy as it is a bit a hack but at least it works Mar 04 09:45:02 what's your workaround shibakaneki? Mar 04 09:46:44 I put a View on top of the surface view just before hiding the fragment, in order to hide the flicker Mar 04 09:47:01 It's dirty, I know, but I didn't find another solution Mar 04 09:50:53 but at least it's working like a charm Mar 04 09:53:08 Hi. I'd still like a response to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35747852/result-not-returned-across-apps-if-background-instance-exists ;) Mar 04 10:10:30 Hello guys, I want to post data from a webview. But before I concatenate key/value and code it to BASE64 to build, I was wondering if there is a smart builtin/smart function to do that for us. Mar 04 10:17:35 hithere Mar 04 10:26:14 bolovanos, hi :) I want to use EncodingUtils, AndroidStudio doesn't recognise the class. But it also seems to be deprecated. What alternatives do we have? Mar 04 11:26:54 I am writing an application which allows people to chat with other people connected to the same network without the need of a server (P2P). I looked into the client server model and am not able to fathom a way of doing this. Will all devices have to be a server and a client? Mar 04 11:28:11 yes that is what p2p means Mar 04 11:31:13 squ: So how do I go about doing that? Do I start the server and client on different threads in the chat activity? Mar 04 11:32:08 Or could you point me to some tutorial with a similar aim? Mar 04 11:32:47 I have searched and searched but have only found tutorials which make different applications for the server and the client Mar 04 11:35:39 haven't done this for android, unfortunately can't help you Mar 04 11:57:13 JakeWharton: Short question, can I use Retrofit with any JVM language – say, Groovy on Grails - just normally? Mar 04 12:03:04 according to google Mar 04 12:03:07 If you have a device running Android 4.4 Kitkat or above, use the adb shell command screenrecord to capture video directly from your device Mar 04 12:03:48 my device is below 4.4 Mar 04 12:03:59 what is the best (native) way to achieve the same? Mar 04 12:14:41 hi Mar 04 12:14:46 i need help Mar 04 12:31:04 Hey guys... If I use this code -> http://pastebin.com/VH3GNPiX it does what I want it to do which is to open the default EMAIL client with my Email address.. Problem is anything after the " @ " sign is gone including the @ sign Mar 04 12:37:38 Hey guys... If I use this code -> http://pastebin.com/VH3GNPiX it does what I want it to do which is to open the default EMAIL client with my Email address.. Problem is anything after the " @ " sign is gone including the @ sign Mar 04 12:39:58 hey, can someone look at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35409222/gson-nested-deserialization-doesnt-work ? I'm trying to deserialize inner generic type with gson, however it's not working. Mar 04 12:43:51 is it me or was drawable tinting broken in some versions? Mar 04 12:46:43 how can i do accepting cookie for webview? Mar 04 12:47:08 I set android:indeterminateTint="#f00" on a progress bar and on nexus5 (android 6.0.1) it's red as expected, on xperia z5 compact (android 5.1.1), on sgs4 (5.0.1) it's blueish green... Mar 04 12:55:48 hey, can someone look at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35409222/gson-nested-deserialization-doesnt-work ? I'm trying to deserialize inner generic type with gson, however it's not working. Mar 04 13:05:15 Heya. I just noticed that my ANDROID_HOME variable is empty but that seems to have caused no problems at all. I'm also having trouble finding any info about ANDROID_HOME on d.android.com, is that env variable still a thing? Mar 04 13:06:10 Is that variable only used to add the tools to your path or does it have other uses? Mar 04 13:35:23 Hello everyone! does someone had implemented andftp on your app? i cant figure out how i start the ativity from intent. http://www.lysesoft.com/products/andftp/intent.html Mar 04 13:35:35 i want to start it from service Mar 04 13:35:54 does someone has any cue for this? Mar 04 13:36:20 i've got andftp installed on my android already Mar 04 13:37:54 what's the problem Mar 04 13:39:48 Hi Zharf Mar 04 13:39:50 the problem is i dont know how i should do this to call it from a background service Mar 04 13:43:28 error: method startActivityForResult in class ActivityCompat cannot be applied to given types; Mar 04 13:43:28 startActivityForResult(intent, DOWNLOAD_FILES_REQUEST); Mar 04 13:43:28 ^ Mar 04 13:43:28 required: Activity,Intent,int,Bundle Mar 04 13:45:46 Anyone familiar with too fast ViewPropertyAnimations inside suppor.design CoordinatorLayout? Mar 04 13:46:12 Despite >300 ms durations the animations seem to finish in around 20ms. Mar 04 13:49:33 Hi there, does someone uses GoogleMap ? Mar 04 13:50:36 I'm looking for an object that has the camera zoom and the bound. Right now I just found the bound on Projection and the zoom on CameraPosition Mar 04 13:50:40 how do i add to my service a way to download a ftp folder to my sd card? Mar 04 13:50:54 what is the most simple way? Mar 04 13:53:21 user__, if I really had to use ftp, Iwould probably find some library to do it for me, but really if there's any way of avoiding ftp, go for that instead :p Mar 04 13:53:38 user__, I don't think you can start an activity for result from a service though Mar 04 13:55:01 Zharf, want im trying to accomplish with my service is scan for wifi networks and if a specific ssid hardcoded is in range, connect to it and then make a download with ftp Mar 04 13:55:05 the first part is done Mar 04 13:56:38 if you don't want to do anything after the download is done, andftp would probably work if you just didn't use startActivityForResult, instead use startActivity... also when starting from a service you'll need Intent.FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK in the internet Mar 04 13:56:42 ... Mar 04 13:56:44 intent, not internet... Mar 04 13:56:48 silly fingers Mar 04 13:57:41 otherwise, you'll need to implement the ftp part yourself, probably using some library that already implements the protocol Mar 04 13:57:41 Zharf, you mean here? Intent intent = new Intent(); Mar 04 13:58:01 Zharf, also, do i need to add something to manifest? Mar 04 13:58:27 to start an activity from a different application? no Mar 04 14:02:37 maybe its better to use a lib Mar 04 14:02:43 Zharf, dont you think? Mar 04 14:02:50 I do Mar 04 14:03:07 do you know something about this? any good lib? Mar 04 14:04:22 apache commons has an ftp library... never used it (or any other ftp library since like late 90s...) Mar 04 14:12:47 Zharf, i want to transfer files from one smartphone to all connected to the network so i think its the best way to do it Mar 04 14:13:21 install a ftp server on my hotspot android Mar 04 14:13:24 ftp is a terrible piece of history :p Mar 04 14:14:04 it wold be cool if i could use a solution like P2P Mar 04 14:18:23 Shadow gradients look so ugly below white/gray =/ Mar 04 14:29:57 What do you think is better. make a method that returns the asyncTask, for example a getRequestDataAndPresent().doInBackground(mapBoundZoom); , create a attribute AsyncTask requestDataAndPresentTask = new AsyncTask {....} or create a inner class: Class RequestDataAndPresent extends AsyncTask<>() {...} than using as new RequestDataAndPresent().doInBackground(...); ? What do you think is better in code clean and performa Mar 04 14:29:57 nce ? Mar 04 14:32:12 don't use an inner class is a good guideline for avoiding activity leaks Mar 04 14:33:39 missingno: Never thought about it before. Do you know to explain why or some material (webpage) that explains ? Mar 04 14:36:22 not using asynctasks is a better way of avoiding activity leaks ;) Mar 04 14:36:45 (also if you have inner classes, make them static) Mar 04 14:40:26 I'm designing this Layer class. By doubt is about the plotLayer method. Should I keep the AsyncTask inline just as it's, or refactor it in some of the ways that I explained before ? Mar 04 14:40:37 Sorry, forgot the link https://gist.github.com/wviana/dc6cecc74d4b8e08cee3 Mar 04 15:01:55 So, not using inner class ok. And by using as field/attribute I'll depend from GoogleMap instance, that won't be there when layer is created. Mar 04 15:02:42 I'm thinking or keep as it is with the anonymous inner class, or to create a method that returns the AsynkTask instance. Mar 04 15:18:39 How can I make an Exception copy its contents into a string? Mar 04 15:19:20 String s = e; as I recall. It's real simple. Mar 04 15:19:47 dragorn: Really? hmm I do not think its that simple though ? Mar 04 15:19:56 neither do I Mar 04 15:20:23 try e.toString() Mar 04 15:20:28 and see what info is missing Mar 04 15:20:32 missingno: Gives me the address Mar 04 15:20:48 iirc stack trace info is usually difficult to get Mar 04 15:21:03 why do you want to do this? Mar 04 15:21:15 why not Log.e Mar 04 15:21:23 or anything else that does this hard work for you Mar 04 15:21:33 you should be able to toString them if the exception was implemented properly, yeah. Mar 04 15:21:34 (also see e.getMessage()) Mar 04 15:22:11 yeah Throwable#toString() already does getMessage() Mar 04 15:54:07 it's 2016 Mar 04 15:54:24 why do we still need to exclude LICENSE.txt in packagingOptions Mar 04 15:54:46 does replacing a fragment in a container not clear my backstack? Mar 04 15:54:50 if not: why not? Mar 04 15:55:15 and if I dont add that fragment to backstack why is it removed on pressing back Mar 04 15:55:20 this is some seriously funky stuff Mar 04 16:10:29 jvrodrigues: welcome to fragments Mar 04 16:11:12 Napalm! How are you man? Mar 04 16:11:23 ok thanks Mar 04 16:11:28 long week Mar 04 16:11:38 hows you buddy? Mar 04 16:12:10 pretty good, fairly well installed in germany at this point. coding my days away Mar 04 16:15:49 What is the system variable name for controlling the settings full screen mode? Mar 04 16:42:09 does someone has used apache common net (Ftp) ? Mar 04 16:44:30 android ftp apache connect failed: ENETUNREACH (Network is unreachable) Mar 04 16:45:22 hey all Mar 04 16:45:27 which SDK should i chose: http://i.imgur.com/CFnIMOi.png Mar 04 16:50:07 django_: If it asks for SDK you want to pick the Android one. If it asks for JDK you want to pick the java one. Mar 04 16:50:25 Do you use IRC on computer or does someone use it on mobile ? Mar 04 16:52:02 IRC on mobile is a pain Mar 04 16:57:55 irc on mobile is how I do 90% of my irc Mar 04 16:58:20 pfn: Really ? Which app do u use ? Mar 04 16:58:51 pfn: So this is why you're always on Mar 04 16:58:55 probably his own one Mar 04 16:59:16 wviana no, I'm always on because I use a bnc Mar 04 16:59:24 or a bouncer Mar 04 16:59:27 heh, that. Mar 04 16:59:29 * lut4rp uses znc Mar 04 16:59:31 bnc ? Mar 04 16:59:41 use the google Mar 04 17:00:25 i dont use irc Mar 04 17:00:34 just session on vps ;) Mar 04 17:00:43 and run weechat in tmux Mar 04 17:02:36 I have a hard enough time typing on a regular keyboard, let alone a mobile one. ha. I must just be derpy Mar 04 17:03:11 please star https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=202485 Mar 04 17:03:16 I use voice recognition a lot Mar 04 17:03:19 (docs on 23.2 not upaded) Mar 04 17:04:15 pfn, huh. not a bad idea Mar 04 17:11:29 good thing intellij has such a great decompiler heh Mar 04 17:12:16 I want to make sure that my app’s videos still play sound when the app is in the background. I’m finding resources for this very scarce. I understand I need to split audio and video with the MediaPlayer and use a service, but I really am having trouble figuring out the right approach. Mar 04 17:12:52 Does anybody know where I should look for guidance/tutorial/help? Mar 04 17:13:37 Unsure how you'd do that with MediaPlayer but if you want to use something else, using gstreamer might help Mar 04 17:14:02 what? Mar 04 17:14:15 where did you pull that gstreamer bs from? :P Mar 04 17:14:36 ghostmoth, http://www.androidhive.info/2012/03/android-building-audio-player-tutorial/ Mar 04 17:15:00 ghostmoth, essentially you'll have to start a (preferrably) foreground service that will use mediaplayer (or other sound APIs) to play Mar 04 17:15:36 I have a friend who does some very funky stuff with gstreamer on android devices. I'm not sure, that's why the "might help" :) Mar 04 17:17:33 Yeah it would be a foreground service so the user has controls Mar 04 17:18:03 Mavrik I’ve sseen this tutorial, haven’t read all the way through though because it doesn’t address video Mar 04 17:18:15 It could probably get me started anyway Mar 04 17:22:55 is incremental dexing on be default? Mar 04 17:23:03 yes Mar 04 17:29:19 ghostmoth, ah, I overlooked the video part Mar 04 17:29:35 I very much doubt your issue is something you'll find a one click tutorial for. Mar 04 17:29:49 I know how to use the mediaplayer, but not how to split video and audio on a service and UI thread Mar 04 17:30:41 Mavrik: I’ve learned how to start and manage services, but now I’m trying to figure out how to make that split. Seems just starting a video URI in the service doesn’t do anything Mar 04 17:31:18 hmm I will explicitly enable it since gradle plugin 2.0.0 disables it for some reason Mar 04 17:31:25 it being incremental dexing Mar 04 17:32:03 incremental dexing doesn't work with multidex Mar 04 17:32:23 and doesn't work with instant run Mar 04 17:49:59 instant run [*] Mar 04 17:50:22 heh Mar 04 17:50:36 so wait does incremental work with api21+ multidex? Mar 04 17:50:41 no Mar 04 17:50:48 aww man Mar 04 17:51:03 doesn't really matter Mar 04 17:51:22 because every library is an individual dex, it makes no difference Mar 04 17:51:27 there's nothing really to incremental Mar 04 17:52:06 pfn: i have it working Mar 04 17:52:12 I will settle for preDexLibraries on api21+ Mar 04 17:52:17 oh? Mar 04 17:52:24 Napalm, maybe, but it makes no difference in build speed Mar 04 17:52:59 Studio 1.5.1, Plugin 1.5.0 Mar 04 17:53:09 seems to make a difference in build speed Mar 04 17:53:39 dexOptions { incremental true; preDexLibraries false } Mar 04 17:54:07 and that's with multidex on? incremental is ignored when multidex is turned on Mar 04 17:54:09 yes Mar 04 17:54:22 it does make a difference Mar 04 17:54:23 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32755001/incremental-is-not-supported-with-multi-dex Mar 04 17:54:27 unless they recently fixed it Mar 04 17:54:28 but that might be other optinos Mar 04 17:54:35 plus they released 1.0.1 of multidex Mar 04 17:54:52 i'll disable it and see Mar 04 17:55:38 build-tools\23.0.2> dx --dex --incremental --multi-dex jack.jar Mar 04 17:55:38 --incremental is not supported with --multi-dex Mar 04 17:55:59 i dont get an error when using the options in android studio Mar 04 17:56:07 let me disable it and try things out Mar 04 17:56:10 gradle plugin will prevent both being set Mar 04 17:56:22 yea, no change Mar 04 17:56:28 its siliently ignores them Mar 04 17:57:02 yep Mar 04 17:58:09 weaksauce Mar 04 17:58:27 it doesn't really matter Mar 04 17:58:54 with multidex, the dex files are so small that the incremental algorithm takes more time than you would save from being incremental Mar 04 18:01:56 support multidex is a different story, but enabling incremental on that doesn't work due to the nature of the problem Mar 04 18:06:14 is it correct that android NDK 21 removed this call? error: undefined reference to '__srget' Mar 04 18:22:41 how would you guys go about making something like the microsoft next lockscreen? Mar 04 18:23:57 they seem to have gotten past most of the issues a lot of lockscreens Mar 04 18:29:05 Hey, I am getting some ARNs from my android app. But I don't know how to read and analyse the "error log" Mar 04 18:35:11 well, first step to getting help would be to post it somewhere and link it here Mar 04 18:37:23 s73v3r: No problem: http://pastebin.com/LQ7rz6g6 Mar 04 18:37:41 this is the full logcat dump? Mar 04 18:38:42 Its the content from Google Play Developer Console (ANR report) Mar 04 18:40:59 ok, it looks like there are multiple apps included in this. Which app id is yours? Mar 04 18:44:54 s73v3r: de.madebym.cvjmkreisverbandluebbeckeev is the package. Or what do you mean? Mar 04 18:45:10 that’s what i meant Mar 04 18:45:15 couldn’t think of the term Mar 04 18:51:19 unfortunately there’s nothing that shouts out at me, there Mar 04 18:51:40 it’s likely there was something taking too long on the main thread Mar 04 18:52:11 that was blocking the main thread from responding to other messages, causing the ANR Mar 04 18:52:40 de.madebym.cvjmkreisverbandluebbeckeev Mar 04 18:52:44 seriously, that's your package name? Mar 04 18:53:02 it’s german. crazy names Mar 04 18:53:21 yes and yes :D Mar 04 18:53:40 CVJM is the german version of YMCA Mar 04 18:53:46 ahh Mar 04 18:53:54 still have to lol at the fucking package name Mar 04 18:54:04 and luebbecke is a city in germany :D Mar 04 18:54:38 you know your package name doesn’t have to exactly match your app name, right? :p Mar 04 18:54:55 Yes, I know, but I like it :D Mar 04 18:55:29 looks like a system anr Mar 04 18:56:12 pfn: I get it from several devices and I can reproduce it in the android studio emulator Mar 04 18:56:14 has this happened a lot? Mar 04 18:56:21 then pull another anr trace Mar 04 18:56:26 because that trace is worthless Mar 04 18:56:50 there's no anr in that trace Mar 04 18:57:12