**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 15 02:59:58 2016 Mar 15 03:00:19 build overly complicated and fragile platform, where people get a mini gun to shoot themselves in the foot with Mar 15 03:00:28 instead of a nerf gun Mar 15 03:01:32 ron_frown hey did you read about that texas copy spraying motorcyclists with mace as they passed Mar 15 03:01:39 *texas cop Mar 15 03:01:48 no, but it really doesnt surprise me Mar 15 03:01:56 I believe in law enforcement Mar 15 03:01:58 and that we need it Mar 15 03:02:10 everyone I've encountered... all douchelords Mar 15 03:02:18 i think the cops need to be restricted to nerf guns Mar 15 03:03:03 I dont know hwo they do personality test and shit Mar 15 03:03:14 and then you always get those cops taht are the exact kinda people that shouldnt have the power Mar 15 03:04:49 thats exactly the thing, who the heck wants to do that job - seems self selecting for the wrong kind. my neighbor is one, i talk to him because he has a dog. he wants total control over his dog. i think, you have a control problem. if you were a manager at some shitty corp at least you couldn't ruin people's lives :D Mar 15 03:05:12 yuuup Mar 15 03:05:21 i've had managers like that, and thought damn at least he's not a cop Mar 15 03:05:24 morning, guys ... i cant find out how to achieve this simple task, i would appreciate some guidance please Mar 15 03:05:28 http://postimg.org/image/v363n8uo3/ Mar 15 03:05:56 i cant make a new file, with an image i choose and displayed in an ImageView Mar 15 03:06:31 i've tried so many ways but i cant understand how to do it, since everything i gives me somekind of an error Mar 15 03:07:09 cops should just be paid heaps more than they are Mar 15 03:07:35 i got an ImageView, and after the user choose the Image from an Intent Gallry, i want the path of that picture, so i could put it in to a method to upload it online ... Mar 15 03:07:56 I'd have a lot more respect for them if they behaved in respectable manners Mar 15 03:08:06 enforce laws but not harass citizens Mar 15 03:08:16 I hear its diff in LA Mar 15 03:08:20 because they got real shit to do Mar 15 03:09:56 ron_frown last thing about this, being OT ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-be-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/ Mar 15 03:10:07 cops are paid a pretty good shitton Mar 15 03:10:20 if you are chief Mar 15 03:10:25 yeah the one that lives here has a few cars, nice house Mar 15 03:10:38 not even Mar 15 03:10:46 base salary here is 80k Mar 15 03:11:09 plus a 90% highest pay pension @ 20 years Mar 15 03:13:09 might be higher than 80k now, last time I saw the billboards, it was that Mar 15 03:13:28 pfn where is that Mar 15 03:13:28 so yeah, the pay is pretty damn good Mar 15 03:13:31 sfba Mar 15 03:13:31 I live in a rich area Mar 15 03:13:34 base is like 60k Mar 15 03:13:44 oakland, redwood city, san jose Mar 15 03:13:46 you work your way up and its govt Mar 15 03:13:48 they all have billboards like that Mar 15 03:13:48 well shit Mar 15 03:13:56 oakland you get hazard pay Mar 15 03:14:04 bah, oakland isn't even that bad Mar 15 03:14:24 how many homicides so far this year Mar 15 03:14:38 there is a town about 60mi south of here thats already at like 15 homicides Mar 15 03:14:38 I mean, yeah, fruitvale is downright scary, but that's just a small part of oakland Mar 15 04:32:14 google's udacity courses looks like sesame street Mar 15 04:32:35 vigilancer lol why Mar 15 04:33:33 take a look at "Performance" in "Advanced Android App Development". they desperate to entertain me Mar 15 04:33:50 and it called "advanced .. development" Mar 15 04:38:17 Anyone around to help with an architecture discussion. I basically have a messaging application and for my Inbox activity, I show a tabbed viewpager. One tab for group convos, and one tab with direct message convos. I store the Lists as statics in a Convo class. Heres a paste bin http://pastebin.com/VTMXKQW6 Mar 15 04:38:58 Now where I'm having trouble is I have one list that has both types of messages, and then two more lists which have one type of message, and the other has the other type of message. Not sure if something is glaringly wrong with that kind of setup Mar 15 04:39:23 Surely these messages have things in common Mar 15 04:39:32 also, why use statics? Mar 15 04:39:38 don't use statics Mar 15 04:41:48 CedricBeust: because holding state is cool Mar 15 04:41:54 CedricBeust: I want to store my Convos as statics as a cache of sorts. Mar 15 04:42:03 Don't do that Mar 15 04:42:16 So I don't have to load them through the DB again. okay =( Mar 15 04:42:29 <_genuser_> hey guys. so AS starting a new project, names it: proj.com..proj Mar 15 04:42:34 <_genuser_> is anyone else seeing this/ Mar 15 04:42:45 no Mar 15 04:42:58 (no idea) Mar 15 04:43:11 <_genuser_> gordon_: that's for my question? Mar 15 04:43:16 yes Mar 15 04:43:39 <_genuser_> ok, hmm, I thought I wasn't tripping. It's not really supposed to do that. :) Mar 15 04:43:41 CedricBeust: Also, yes, the messages in the allConvos static holds all of the object in dmConvos and groupConvos. But I'm getting weird concurrency things it seems like... so I want to redo that Convo class, but I'm still fairly novice, so I just want to get ideas from other folks here. Mar 15 04:44:14 vigilancer oh yeah, heh - all the videos lately are pretty cheesy Mar 15 04:44:21 First things first, no need for static. Second, what kind of issues are you seeing? What threads are there Mar 15 04:44:38 It's just supposed to be convienient to say for my groupMessagesTab to create an adapter by calling Convo.groupConvos and the same for Convo.dmConvo Mar 15 04:44:50 eghdk: that's not the way to organise cache. when you'll get rid of statics your arch problem probably will go away Mar 15 04:45:26 CedricBeust: Well, I haven't proven that it's a concurrency issue yet, but I'm getting weird things happening (aka my static cache not being totally representative of my actual messages) Mar 15 04:45:40 Typical problem caused by statics Mar 15 04:45:54 I feel like I've dug myself into a hole and I feel bad. But I really don't know what would be a better solution. Mar 15 04:46:25 how do I convert an Observable> to a stream of Observable Mar 15 04:46:53 I was thinking map Mar 15 04:47:08 And my app silly messaging app has gotten some traction, 5k installs this week, and I want to fix it once and for all CedricBeust . SO my first step is to get rid of statics, no problem. Is there a good way to store this "Cached" data? Maybe in my Application object? Mar 15 04:47:10 probably flatMap Mar 15 04:47:12 RustyShackleford: that's your 3rd day doing that? :D Mar 15 04:47:24 gordon_: a little at a time yeah Mar 15 04:47:38 don't laugh lol. I'm trying to learn, shit Mar 15 04:47:58 eghdk: hide your lists beside middleman. with methods like: "giveMeThatThigs", and than pull your data from db or cache or whatever Mar 15 04:48:30 eghdk: do you really have performance issues with pulling data from db every time you need it? Mar 15 04:49:50 vigilancer: My app creates a butt ton of convos because of the way it works, so yes, the first time the user opens up the app after using it for a while, can have like 500+ convos, so everytime my user opens up that tab, I don't want to do that query. I thought that makes sense? Mar 15 04:49:57 RustyShackleford: try flatMap(list -> Observable.from(list)) Mar 15 04:50:33 I figure why query multiple times if I can just do it once while the process is alive, and clear the cache on low memory warnings. Mar 15 04:50:39 Thought that made sense =( Mar 15 04:51:49 eghdk: did you measure performance penalty? Mar 15 04:52:10 vigilancer: yes, with the method profiler and systrace. Mar 15 04:52:31 upside is I've gotten pretty damn good at systrace. Mar 15 04:53:32 It's not terrible on newer phones, but on things like the moto g, it can be pretty painful, so when I added the cache, the thing was miles better so I kept with it. Mar 15 04:53:56 gordon_: don't laugh http://pastebin.com/SDxB0hvx Mar 15 04:54:15 I'm using AS code generation to help me out Mar 15 04:54:22 I'm mainly not sure if it makes sense to keep three lists of convos, also, not sure if it makes sense to load all convos a user has in his/her db if I can only show like 10 items on the screen max in a listview. Mar 15 04:54:45 RustyShackleford: Don't do things like Db.xxx. Pass a db object instead of using statics Mar 15 04:54:46 (Yes I'm using listview, I'll move to recyclerView later, but I am using the viewholder pattern" Mar 15 04:54:46 now SqlBrite.createQuery never calls onCompleted Mar 15 04:55:09 CedricBeust: er its just a constant Mar 15 04:55:38 It never calls completed ever Mar 15 04:55:39 Db.StopsTable.parseCursor() is a constant? Mar 15 04:55:59 eghdk: 1. hide your caches behind some Cache class, create it once and hold reference inside Application. Mar 15 04:56:03 oh you're right, its a static method. Works nice Mar 15 04:56:25 anyway, I found this pattern in some github comments. Its not working out for some reasong Mar 15 04:56:38 probably because I have no idea what I'm doing Mar 15 04:56:56 vigilancer: So treat the Cache class like a singleton? Mar 15 04:56:59 eghdk: 2. pull only portions of data. if they not in cache they will be loaded in List or whatever on first call Mar 15 04:57:05 the pattern = do the work inside flatMap Mar 15 04:57:20 eghdk: it will be only instance, but not singleton Mar 15 04:57:54 vigilancer: Okay, only one instance in my app class, essentially a singleton/static... but DON't make it a singleton/static? Mar 15 04:58:02 eghdk: 3. get rid of duplication, no need for 3 lists Mar 15 04:59:08 vigilancer: 2. "pull only portions of data" do you mean don't query the entire database... only a max of X items or something? Mar 15 04:59:54 RustyShackleford: why should I laugh Mar 15 05:00:06 pull as many as you want. but you said you only need 10 at a time. so if requseted convos not in cache - get from db, return caller and add to cache Mar 15 05:00:34 RustyShackleford, you got that answer yesterday already, or this morning, flatMap(list -> Observable.from(list)) y u ignore Mar 15 05:00:50 eghdk: if you no need to invalidate cache, that's will do Mar 15 05:01:09 pfn: have you seen scala center? Mar 15 05:01:12 no Mar 15 05:01:30 check it ! Mar 15 05:01:45 vigilancer: 3. "get rid of duplication" yeah, that was my first thought. It's pretty ugly. How do you recommend getting a type of convo though? Right now it was really easy to get all convos, or get all DM convos, or get all Group COnvos. Mar 15 05:02:05 lists of ids? Mar 15 05:02:12 Let me just point out again that it didn't contain duplicate convo objects, it was just as a convienience. Mar 15 05:02:19 pfn: how is that different from what I did? Mar 15 05:02:25 and convos like Map Mar 15 05:02:25 I have no idea what you did Mar 15 05:02:34 http://pastebin.com/SDxB0hvx Mar 15 05:02:51 lamdas confuse me because I don't understand the types being used Mar 15 05:03:06 vigilancer: What was the "lists of ids?" referring to? Mar 15 05:03:20 Convo object have some kind of id? Mar 15 05:04:09 convo objects have a unique id. It's their _id in the database. They also have a convoType either 1 for dm, or 2 for group. Mar 15 05:06:13 pfn: I swear I tried to follow your advice Mar 15 05:06:14 RustyShackleford: because you're returning List not Observable ? Mar 15 05:06:43 vigilancer: Why Map? I can get all the convo unique ids by calling thisConvo.getId(). Why do you recommend a Map? Mar 15 05:06:50 sorry, Observable>> not Observable Mar 15 05:07:07 Or do you mean Map? Mar 15 05:07:18 gordon_: in which method? Mar 15 05:07:22 line 10 Mar 15 05:08:18 also, why you're returning what you dont want ot Mar 15 05:12:25 eghdk: http://pastebin.com/mLk2u3UZ Mar 15 05:12:41 starting point. sorry, time to do some work Mar 15 05:13:29 gordon_: well there isn't a return value in line 10 Mar 15 05:13:35 vigilancer: No problem thanks man. CedricBeust why is this better than just having a static or singleton? Mar 15 05:13:57 I read that as a function that maps a list of trainstops to a stream of Observable Mar 15 05:15:22 vigilancer: And if you don't mind, what's the Id in the Map? Unique id of the Convo or the type of convo (group convo vs dm convo)? Mar 15 05:15:37 eghdk: unique id Mar 15 05:15:59 vigilancer: Pardon my lack of intelligence... but why? Mar 15 05:17:42 eghdk statics would make it harder to test Mar 15 05:17:56 and since CedricBeust is mr Test (ng) :D Mar 15 05:19:13 gotcha. thanks g00s last question I had with vigilancer take on my problem is why he included two Lists<> also. I thought I shouldn't complicate it by having more lists? Mar 15 05:24:36 eghdk: so you can sort out from .all only specific convos from .type1 or .type2 Mar 15 05:25:30 vigilancer: So you think it's worth it to keep those two different lists around as long as they share the same objects in the allConvos List? Mar 15 05:25:32 g00s: no, singletons make it harder to test. statics is just bad design in general Mar 15 05:26:14 eghdk: it's different lists of 'ids'. List Mar 15 05:26:46 OH. I'm holding ID's and not the actual objects... interesting way to go about that. Mar 15 05:27:56 vigilancer "singleton" is just the name given by GoF to a particular implementation of global state Mar 15 05:28:03 eghdk: that's just from top of my head, not that it's best practice. the point is to feel up cache in process when new data requested Mar 15 05:29:20 for example, any method that takes no arguments and returns state ;) Mar 15 05:29:30 any *static method Mar 15 05:29:47 google had a project called GSD (google singleton detector) Mar 15 05:30:01 where they detect singletons, mingletons, hingletons, and fingletons :D Mar 15 05:30:20 all different ways of global state :D Mar 15 05:30:26 Cool. I will give that a go. Once last thing is that I was using Dagger1 with a RealConvoModule and MockConvoModule. Real convo module would provide the Convo cache, but if there's no cache, it has to query the DB and build the cache. It's doing this on the Main thread, since I'm injecting this on my Fragment. Any way around this? Mar 15 05:30:28 RustyShackleford: works for me http://pastebin.com/SWc8K94Q Mar 15 05:31:50 g00s: didn't know that, thanks. anyway in this case it's good idea to hide lists behind actial cache implementation, not operate on them directly Mar 15 05:33:50 hm, Manning deal of the day has some interesting stuff on sale Mar 15 05:34:07 Streaming Data looks interesting ... Mar 15 05:37:34 Maybe I should simplify my questinon. Any way to get "async" injection with dagger1? Mar 15 05:38:07 hey thepoosh Mar 15 05:38:26 dagger was also really cool but I gave up on it Mar 15 05:38:35 was stuck for like a week Mar 15 05:38:46 said screw it, I'll do dependency injection myself lol Mar 15 05:40:19 RustyShackleford: https://anyworld.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/fail3.jpg my thoughts ;) Mar 15 05:40:42 but I understand, it can be hard Mar 15 05:40:50 especially when you just starte Mar 15 05:40:52 d Mar 15 05:41:01 for my use case its overkill anyway Mar 15 05:41:36 i got it to work in my app, it was great Mar 15 05:41:44 couldn't figure out how to wire up unit tests though Mar 15 05:42:24 no idea how your app is structured Mar 15 05:42:50 I hate to keep bugging you gordon_, but lambdas with rxjava confuse the shit out of me Mar 15 05:43:11 ;) Mar 15 05:43:21 i'm not sure what that example is trying to illustrate Mar 15 05:43:36 flatMap Mar 15 05:43:43 Observable.from(list) will create a stream of lists Mar 15 05:43:47 er no Mar 15 05:43:49 no Mar 15 05:43:54 of ints in this case Mar 15 05:44:03 so that's what you want Mar 15 05:44:16 Observable.just(list) will create observable of list Mar 15 05:44:51 lightbulb moment Mar 15 05:45:04 I call filter next. I dunno why I was trying to use map next Mar 15 05:46:06 dunno Mar 15 05:46:10 now after I filter the stream I want to make it into a List again Mar 15 05:46:17 RustyShackleford ... is this still the query from db ? Mar 15 05:46:19 maybe I should become a consultant haha Mar 15 05:46:34 gordon_ i hear professional trolls pay a lot these days :) Mar 15 05:46:53 If I inject a List but the provides just goes Convo.getConvos(), and getConvos queries the DB, with a lot of entries it's slow. Any way for dagger to have an @Inject but not wait for it to have to return right away? Mar 15 05:46:58 g00s: yup. don't judge me Mar 15 05:47:23 you could sign up for the chinese 50 cent brigade Mar 15 05:47:45 probably make more money than indie android dev :) Mar 15 05:48:22 awesome. finally got it Mar 15 05:48:36 gordon_: what do I owe you? Mar 15 05:48:38 g00s: you just reminded me how my boss hired chinese developers for 'qucik feature' and they weren't creating branches in git but pushing to master :D Mar 15 05:48:41 RustyShackleford but the Rx pipeline you are working on, are you trying to manipulate the data from the database ... or do you have a pipeline of stuff of which getting database is an operation? Mar 15 05:49:07 RustyShackleford: nothing, just wonder if you knew that I've send you example in scala not in java :P Mar 15 05:49:17 I did notice Mar 15 05:49:25 god, I wish when I searched google drive it would tell me what folder something is in Mar 15 05:49:29 wondered how the hell this was going to help me if I don't know scala Mar 15 05:49:37 but I wanted to be polite about it Mar 15 05:49:47 same thing Mar 15 05:49:56 only gordon and pfn can decrypt that Mar 15 05:50:00 I should try some scala Mar 15 05:50:10 I sorta like groovy for scripting things at work Mar 15 05:50:29 if you're familiar with java its really easy to use Mar 15 05:50:50 that's about the only good thing about groovy Mar 15 05:51:18 when I think of groovy.. gradle comes to my mind Mar 15 05:51:19 not my top choice, but I couldn't figure out how to install python Mar 15 05:51:22 cannot be good :P Mar 15 05:51:39 i think some people think - for some admin script, meh fuck it ... why do it in python, jvm has all the goodies, but java is too much ceremony so groovy Mar 15 05:51:46 business wanted to know all the occurences of search terms like "customer experience" in our source code Mar 15 05:52:17 jython Mar 15 05:52:19 jruby Mar 15 05:52:24 nashorn Mar 15 05:52:30 so many better alternatives to groovy Mar 15 05:52:34 no python3 support for jython Mar 15 05:52:39 bleh ruby Mar 15 05:52:42 as if anyone uses python3 Mar 15 05:52:53 everyone *should* use python3 Mar 15 05:53:03 Anyone familiar with MVP? My data model currently exists (along with the db layer, SQLiteOpenHelper and stuff) exist in a different module. My one teammate thinks this separation is good. It's mostly really anooying though. thoughts? Mar 15 05:53:03 yeah what are you talking about pfn Mar 15 05:53:14 get with the times Mar 15 05:53:39 eghdk: good! Mar 15 05:53:58 3.5.1, its not like it just released Mar 15 05:54:16 python3 has support for { } brackets Mar 15 05:54:22 (experimental ;) ) Mar 15 05:54:52 gordon_: Yeah? Its super annoying. We have all of our db queries happening on that layer and stuff, and it gets confusing when something is async vs sync. But I guess thats a different issue? Mar 15 05:54:52 there are some neat concepts in groovy Mar 15 05:55:09 closures are sorta cool. I don't see a huge difference between python and groovy Mar 15 05:55:22 eghdk: who said that you cant have multiple Dao classes ? Mar 15 05:55:37 gordon_: What do you mean? Mar 15 05:55:51 ugh Mar 15 05:55:57 it gets nicer if you know all the idioms. If you're lazy, you get to write shorthand Java Mar 15 05:56:14 eghdk: google - data acces object pattern Mar 15 05:56:48 dont remember if groovy's immutable by default or not Mar 15 05:56:52 gordon_: Yeah, I got that, but do you mean two daos as in one in the Model module and another in my app module? Mar 15 05:57:26 eghdk: I have DataModule which *provides* multiple Dao classes Mar 15 05:58:33 nothing on the jvm is immutable by default Mar 15 05:58:34 except frege Mar 15 05:59:00 gotcha. Mar 15 05:59:07 is there a way to sort an object by different fields without overriding Comparator Mar 15 05:59:38 pfn: I was thinking about immutable collections Mar 15 06:00:19 List list; lst = sortByField(list, type.id); Mar 15 06:00:42 RustyShackleford: in java? not really Mar 15 06:00:44 something along those lines. I could also pass that method type.name, and so on Mar 15 06:00:46 gordon_, groovy uses all javase standard classes, not its own runtime, except for closure stuff Mar 15 06:00:58 and some other stuff in groovy.* Mar 15 06:00:59 you can use lambdas - which will have shortcut for comparator, or guava Mar 15 06:01:18 pfn: understand, thanks Mar 15 06:02:50 explain to me how lamdas are good? Mar 15 06:03:04 they don't work on android, and the lack of types confuses me Mar 15 06:03:14 what's to be confused about Mar 15 06:03:19 look at the signature for your function Mar 15 06:03:47 lambdas are good because they allow you to express your intention without excess ceremony Mar 15 06:04:13 and there is no lack of types, the compiler verifies types for you Mar 15 06:04:31 really depends how familiar you are with the functions youre using Mar 15 06:04:39 RustyShackleford: it's funny how I thought that lambdas are easier to use than functions, even when I was a student and writing in c# Mar 15 06:04:42 your IDE tells you your function types Mar 15 06:04:45 the boilerplate makes it more noob friendly Mar 15 06:04:50 it doesn't Mar 15 06:05:34 welp, I'll add it to the list of things I need to learn Mar 15 06:05:47 just read it in english Mar 15 06:05:59 makes perfect sense it some contexts, confuses me big time in others Mar 15 06:06:27 subscribe( success -> {}, error -> {}) = subscribe WHEN success do {}, WHEN error do {} Mar 15 06:06:55 and ctrl + p , cmd + p is always there for you to tell what type you need to have Mar 15 06:07:04 same as ctrl + space Mar 15 06:08:19 awesome Mar 15 06:08:37 ctrl space doesn't work. IdeaVim is messing with it maybe Mar 15 06:08:46 ctrl-space is autocomplete Mar 15 06:08:50 I always ctrl+q to see the docs Mar 15 06:08:53 doesn't tell you signatures Mar 15 06:09:06 alt-p shows you signatures while you're in parameters Mar 15 06:09:14 at least that's my keybinding Mar 15 06:09:15 ah, it's alt-p on windows Mar 15 06:09:25 ctrl space does work Mar 15 06:09:29 can anyone think of a GApp, which uses navigation drawer, and any of the screens have items that when touched, open a new fragment on the stack rather than new activity? Mar 15 06:09:35 I use it all the time, just don't think abou it Mar 15 06:10:02 anyway, lambdas do work on android as of build-tools 24.0.0preview Mar 15 06:10:09 if you use jack to build Mar 15 06:10:15 or retrolambda before that Mar 15 06:10:20 android N? Mar 15 06:13:03 Really lost here, tried so many things, cant get to fill up this code right !? Mar 15 06:13:15 http://postimg.org/image/v363n8uo3/ Mar 15 06:13:51 it is a simple Upload to server method, to Cloudinary ... Mar 15 06:13:59 g00s: I think you said statics are hard to test, but doesn't dagger alleviate that pain? Mar 15 06:14:43 no, dagger can't inject statics Mar 15 06:14:57 if you need singletons, you can use dagger to create/manage/inject them for you Mar 15 06:15:01 JanusJanus: You have a File variable pointing to a context. Why would that work. Mar 15 06:15:32 pfn: Can't it just replace the statics though? I guess I've never tried, I just figured it would work. Mar 15 06:15:50 RustyShackleford: android N has java8 but lambdas are back supported to 2.3 Mar 15 06:16:02 i created a new file and i tried to do this way : http://postimg.org/image/5cpphs8jr/ Mar 15 06:16:10 pfn: The first time I used dagger I did try seeing if it could swap modules at runtime, and so I figured just because it's static it wouldn't be an issue. Mar 15 06:16:23 this another way i tried to complete the method, but still the code wont accept the name of the file Mar 15 06:16:53 JanusJanus: what's xxxxxxx? Mar 15 06:17:15 Is that supposed to be a string name or variable name or something. It's red... so it evidently doesn't fit there/go there. Mar 15 06:17:39 actually it did accept the name of the file " container " but when i run the code it gives me an error : Mar 15 06:17:51 Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Missing required parameter - file Mar 15 06:22:53 i put xxxxx for now because i tried so many things, in the Docs instead of the xxxxxxx it should be for example imagename.png or videoname.mp4 .... and i am trying to get that but did not know how, i am giveing the user the option to pic an image from their phone external storage, and then it is viewed in an ImageView ... from their i dont know how to get the name of the Image they choose ? or the Path Mar 15 06:23:07 Seems like it didn't accept the name of the File. Seems like you should be putting a file variable in there and you're not. But that's only really a guess because I don't know what args that method takes Mar 15 06:23:51 well in the stake trace it says Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Missing required parameter - file Mar 15 06:24:13 and instead of the xxxxx i did create a file and put the name of it, unless i am creating the file in a wrong way .... Mar 15 06:25:04 but in the Cloudinary Docs, they state that the arg of the method could accept several things, Mar 15 06:25:05 http://cloudinary.com/documentation/video_management#api_example_1 Mar 15 06:25:37 should I register a domain before I launch an app in the app store? Mar 15 06:25:57 RustyShackleford: yes Mar 15 06:26:00 I don't need a website for this app Mar 15 06:26:08 this is more for the package name Mar 15 06:26:19 I might release other apps and use the same domain Mar 15 06:26:20 register the name anyway, you might need it later when your app hits millions of users Mar 15 06:26:53 I'm so uncreative Mar 15 06:27:00 how am I going to pick a domain name Mar 15 06:28:57 hello Mar 15 06:29:26 simply, if someone could tell me how to get an imagename as " picture.JPEG" after the user choose it from image view intent ? Mar 15 06:29:27 presumably it wasn't you who registered rustyshackleford.com last year :) Mar 15 06:30:03 he may want to use a package name that does not associate with him personally Mar 15 06:30:19 the .net is available... Mar 15 06:30:30 yeah, I'm kidding :) Mar 15 06:30:45 hah so thats a website huh Mar 15 06:30:51 thats great Mar 15 06:30:59 first headline: "My Son is an Alien" Mar 15 06:31:06 My favorite part are the links that link to nowhere Mar 15 06:31:11 (in the menu) Mar 15 06:31:30 look at the article text... Mar 15 06:31:31 <_genuser_> hmm can I add an array with multiple values in "values" section? Mar 15 06:31:44 I can use Bootstrap about as well as that guy Mar 15 06:31:46 I can't judge Mar 15 06:32:02 can i get what email or some kind of id my user used when downloading my app in play store? Mar 15 06:32:30 rbk, no Mar 15 06:32:35 I dunno, I don't necessarily want to remain anonymous Mar 15 06:32:53 but I don't think I want to register firstlastname.com Mar 15 06:33:10 its definitely available lol. Uncommon last name Mar 15 06:33:25 rbk: pre-N, yes. Mar 15 06:33:48 Just iterate over the list of accounts on the system, and find the primary Google account's email Mar 15 06:34:26 N or later, nope. Unless you're Google's Apps, those still get access to that unique token. Mar 15 06:34:43 #freemarket? Mar 15 06:34:47 Well yes, but that is not on download from the play store, that is after they have run the app :P Mar 15 06:36:56 oh,ok Mar 15 06:37:59 So, I tested on MM now, Mar 15 06:38:18 And I'll just use a permanent notification to keep push notifications working. Mar 15 06:38:28 Decision made. Mar 15 06:49:00 Hello people, so I recently discovered the "don't keep activities" option under developer settings. Is it a good practice to develop apps keeping that option enabled all time? Mar 15 06:51:03 sophomoreJinx: no. Only sometimes. Sometimes you want to see how your app deals with being terminated, Mar 15 06:51:26 but sometimes you also want to see how it deals with staying active and resuming. Mar 15 06:51:44 Especially the different ways of resuming from screen lock, rotate, and recent list. Mar 15 06:53:20 justJanne: "staying active and resuming" could you tell a bit more about that? Mar 15 06:54:09 so it's those cases when the phone got locked when the app was active? Mar 15 06:54:38 staying active and resuming is normal behavior Mar 15 06:54:56 i.e. when "don't keep activities" is enabled Mar 15 06:55:03 shit no, when its disabled Mar 15 06:56:20 RustyShackleford: yeah, makes more sense now. Mar 15 06:57:12 That's why you sometimes want the option on, sometimes off. Mar 15 06:57:32 Sometimes you want to kill your app without going through onDestroy, too, to simulate some cases. Mar 15 07:00:45 Also remember doze: Mar 15 07:01:08 Screen is off (N) or device is unused for 30min (MM) and your services and everything is killed. Mar 15 07:01:19 Only alternative: send a copy of all your data to the NSA Mar 15 07:01:50 Real alternative: use GCM and pay for it Mar 15 07:03:02 justJanne: haha, well, NSA will keep it safe for a longer time. Mar 15 07:04:34 I haven't really started developing with api >= 23 in mind yet. Will have to start now. Mar 15 07:04:42 thanks for the help :) Mar 15 07:05:20 Or you can use notificarion-bound services. Mar 15 07:13:30 still no CircleImage in support libs, ha? Mar 15 07:15:51 if i cannot know what account user used to download from google play, how can i know if a user install both free and pro version of an app? Mar 15 07:32:37 rkb, why should anyone do that ;)? Mar 15 07:33:01 have some trust in user's intelligence, if one has bought pro probably they're not going to use both Mar 15 07:44:20 rkb: send a broadcast, make the pro version/free version each respond to it? Mar 15 07:51:43 sorry let me clarify my question, english is not my main language :) Mar 15 07:52:55 thats not what i mean Mar 15 07:54:23 first app launched is a free version Mar 15 07:55:11 when user download and used the free version, i send some kind of registration to my server Mar 15 07:55:47 say that user uninstalled my free app, and then installed my pro app Mar 15 07:57:06 i need to know if user already registered with the free app before installing the pro version Mar 15 07:58:55 what can i do to detemine that? Mar 15 07:59:08 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Mar 15 07:59:14 https://www.google.com/design/spec/components/bottom-navigation.html#bottom-navigation-usage Mar 15 08:28:16 bottom naviagtion.. sooper Mar 15 08:29:47 <_genuser_> you github pushers... do you use ssh keys or just user/password it? Mar 15 08:40:10 _genuser_: at work ssh keys of course, at home user/password :p Mar 15 08:40:24 but you should always go with ssh keys cause its really easy to setup Mar 15 08:40:35 and makes everything better :P Mar 15 08:43:29 is this going to be a thing? https://static.spiceworks.com/images/how_to_steps/0000/3886/too_many_toolbars.jpg Mar 15 08:47:26 Ashiren: It used to be a thing. Mar 15 08:48:04 Lomex: o/ Mar 15 08:48:19 Hello! Mar 15 08:54:14