**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 20 02:59:58 2016 Mar 20 03:27:05 I think Unity was failing to access the Jar properly because it...I don't even know something wrong in the XML file I...maybe Mar 20 03:42:04 In android studio you know how you ALT + enter to import Mar 20 03:42:11 can I import all at the same time? Mar 20 03:43:37 ctrl shift o Mar 20 03:43:40 maybe Mar 20 04:48:44 Without using a library, is there a way to decode html entities in a string? Html.fromString strips html tags, which I do not want. Mar 20 04:49:36 *Html.fromHTML(s) Mar 20 04:50:04 Without a library, tricky. It's a very hard problem, especially for malformed HTML (which is a pleonasm) Mar 20 04:50:13 If you are open to a library, JSoup Mar 20 04:51:05 Anyone here that's done Android Plugins for Unity? Mar 20 04:56:22 : JSoup is a good library. Maybe I can just copy the function without importing the whole lib. Thanks. Mar 20 04:56:39 I very much doubt it will be that easy but good luck Mar 20 04:56:44 Why don't you want to use a library anyway? Mar 20 04:58:25 I don't need all the functionality of the library, and I'd like to keep the app size as small as possible. Mar 20 04:59:20 My Unity side code isn't progressing past: bridge = new AndroidJavaClass(CLASS_NAME); The string in CLASS_NAME matches a class in my .JAR (Plugin)... Mar 20 04:59:23 I'm thinking there's something wrong in my XML file that Unity doesn't properly know that the class exists? Mar 20 04:59:26 But I don't know what I'm doing with AndroidManifest.XML (like I haven't used that dialect of XML before). Mar 20 05:06:04 StringEscapeUtils.unescapeHtml4 (from apache commons lang) seems to do job. Mar 20 05:14:01 android offers localization whenever you ship an app Mar 20 05:14:04 are they any good? Mar 20 05:30:53 hi all, when doing "repo sync ", if there's an error (bad uri in the manifest), repo stay stuck fro some minutes and Ctrl+C can't quit it, any idea what repo is doing during this time ? Mar 20 05:31:25 punishing the dev for his/her typo ? Mar 20 05:34:52 Hello Mar 20 05:35:00 Any clue why this is not working? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/71e4a0a174d3cdb785ff Mar 20 05:42:33 nilsi nope; but I have one piece of advice that could help a bit output to the debug console on every line and see if it's actually breaking at some point or just not doing anything. Mar 20 05:43:34 Android isn't my thing I'm here trying to get Unity to communicate with a native package and got ittle help on that...so >_< Mar 20 05:46:11 Bcadren: Thanks Mar 20 05:46:24 on the line under my print statement im getting: Mar 20 05:46:37 W/cr_BindingManager: Cannot call determinedVisibility() - never saw a connection for the pid: 3297 Mar 20 05:46:45 D/ViewRootImpl: #3 mView = null Mar 20 05:47:12 But not sure really what it means Mar 20 05:48:10 I dont think its related my problem Mar 20 06:03:36 nilsi sounds like it can't call a function because of protection level or similar. Try googling the specific error, I'm sure someone has raised that issue on stackexchange and there will be a solution there. Mar 20 06:14:06 Bcadren: Yeah, I suspect its the ViewPager that is the problem now having cached views or similar. Mar 20 06:15:23 Second time I call the method I see that the text is updated in the view, it is just not reflected in the app. Mar 20 06:15:53 I tried called destroyDrawingCache, invalidate, notifyDataSetChanged on the ViewPager but doesn't work... Mar 20 06:58:39 Is there any way to specify slicing for vector drawables? Mar 20 07:13:43 #owncloud-design Mar 20 07:14:04 * sudhirkhanger forgets join Mar 20 07:16:51 nice, I found a job post Mar 20 07:17:04 I can definitely get an interview here Mar 20 07:17:15 and it looks like a place I wouldn't hate working at Mar 20 07:45:54 burger king? Mar 20 07:48:33 home depot Mar 20 08:12:46 morning all Mar 20 09:35:01 is Lenovo ThinkPad T420 Core i5 2520M 2,5 GHz good for android programming ? Mar 20 09:41:09 yes Mar 20 10:19:12 Hello everyone! Can anyone clarify one question with android activity-fragment lifecycle? Mar 20 10:20:17 I'm newbie and I want to create some simple application. I think MVVM pattern is the most suitable for me. I'm already used it earlier. Mar 20 10:20:44 I examined several examples at github but I cant get one moment. Mar 20 10:21:24 just ask it.. Mar 20 10:22:04 In every example ViewModel created at Activity-Fragment onCreate method directly. But ViewModel can perform some continuous tasks. If activity will be reconfigured - VM will be created one more time. Mar 20 10:22:35 What is your question? Mar 20 10:22:51 how should I create and store ViewModels or Presenters Mar 20 10:23:03 What have you tried? Mar 20 10:23:04 and save state Mar 20 10:23:47 could you please help me with retrofit 2 define API interface for this https://randomuser.me/api/?results=2 ? Mar 20 10:24:01 SiN_Bizkit, im not doing MVP much but there are like 1 million MVP tutorials :/ Mar 20 10:24:06 seems this does not work @GET("api/") Call> groupExamples( @Query("results") int search); Mar 20 10:25:13 SiN_Bizkit: Have a look at http://thefinestartist.com/android/mvp-pattern and https://github.com/antoniolg/androidmvp Mar 20 10:27:03 ok, I will try to ask it simplier. In every android-related article-tutorial I read that I need to separate domain logic from presentation. But domain layer created directly by Views in onCreate method. I don't get how can I restore my state with Activity lifecycle. Mar 20 10:27:57 I would recommend learning Android first and then worrying about MVVM or MVP Mar 20 10:28:45 maybe you're right. I will read refs one more time, I think I miss something. Mar 20 10:30:06 sorry for the disturbance Mar 20 10:43:13 Hello, I was told that if I choose a package name for my application which starts with a me. that means I don't need to own this domain, is that true? Mar 20 10:43:29 Because I am interested in developing an application but I don't want to buy a domain jut yet Mar 20 10:45:18 Itay, you can chose whatever you want but its good practice to use a domain you own Mar 20 10:45:27 Itay: afaik, the domain rule is more to avoid choosing a package name that's already taken Mar 20 10:45:36 Itay: as someone will already own the domain in such a case Mar 20 10:45:54 you might not be able to deeplink into your app if you dont know the domain though Mar 20 10:46:08 Thanks, so basically that won't give me any problems if I choose a package name of a domain I don't own, right? Mar 20 10:46:18 For example, me.myfullname.applicationname Mar 20 10:46:39 yes Mar 20 10:46:45 And can I publish to google play if I don't own that domain? Mar 20 10:46:50 yes Mar 20 10:46:50 yep Mar 20 10:46:53 thanks :D Mar 20 10:48:37 package names don't need to be domains, it's just convention Mar 20 10:48:43 oh he left Mar 20 11:17:55 Question.. I've been poking around a few android repos of late, and I notice something.. Many of the methods are rather large.. Now being a fan of "clean code" I wonder if there's a reason for the large size? Is it common to have 20 or 30 line methods? Mar 20 11:19:35 Actually Now that I count, I'm seeing an average of 40 or 50 lines.. Is there some reason for the large functions. I only ask because I wouldn't mind moving to android dev and I want to know if the 10 line limit I strive for is an anti-patern Mar 20 11:23:01 baash05: probably runtime optimization Mar 20 11:23:16 to avoid deepening the call stack Mar 20 11:24:09 I remember it had an effect on java in the early days, but I thought they inlined things now? Mar 20 11:26:03 Wouldn't JIT flatten the call stack? Mar 20 11:26:34 That's really not the reason anyone cares about :P Mar 20 11:26:43 :) Mar 20 11:27:29 I guess people tolerate longer methods in Android world :) Mar 20 11:27:42 What’s the best way to perpetually run a service in background, with a guarantee that it’s never killed? Mar 20 11:27:57 I need a sensor event to be received under ANY circumstances. Mar 20 11:28:14 justJanne, plug in a separate hardware module that collects data. Mar 20 11:28:20 Mavrik: not possible. Mar 20 11:28:21 or adjust your expectations. Mar 20 11:28:24 Requirements are clear: Mar 20 11:28:24 So it is common for larger methods in Android.. Why do they tolerate it? Mar 20 11:28:46 Collect step counter data, on Android, no external hardware, no sharing of the data with any third party. Mar 20 11:28:58 Mavrik: the requirements can’t be changed. Mar 20 11:29:01 baash05: well, you could argue that obsessively splitting stuff up makes it more difficult to read Mar 20 11:29:29 baash05: but I've never really done Java EE so I don't know about the arguments in favor of it Mar 20 11:29:36 *shrug* Mar 20 11:29:52 Reading code that's forcefully split on tiny methods is hugely painful and hard to maintain. Mar 20 11:29:56 Same as overly long methods. Mar 20 11:30:29 Humm.. I always figure if I'm writing a comment there's a great chance it could be a method name. Mar 20 11:30:30 The point is grouping code in a way that does a single thing and can be read / grasped together. Mar 20 11:30:34 I guess Java is a bit more verbose. Mar 20 11:30:50 But the clean code book was written in java. Mar 20 11:30:58 Or well targeted java. Mar 20 11:32:04 I'm not sure what kind of answer do you expect. Mar 20 11:32:16 People who wrote that code thing that's the size that makes sense for them :) Mar 20 11:33:23 No.. I grew up on C so method size matters.. I was wondering if there was a reason, or if it was just pref. Mar 20 11:33:38 if it's just a pref that's cool. Mar 20 11:34:36 Pretty much a pref Mar 20 11:34:40 I thought perhaps the interpreter had call stack issues, and that it was by design that we wrote larger functions. Mar 20 11:34:44 Nah. Mar 20 11:34:51 Thing is that Android APIs can be a bit more verbose Mar 20 11:34:57 So handling touches or stuff may take a bit more lines of code Mar 20 11:35:10 And splitting it up rarely makes sense due to some statefulness about it. Mar 20 11:35:16 It's not the best API under the sun :P Mar 20 11:36:33 I'm looking at a method that has "final Runnable fileCleanup = new Runnable() { ... 10 lines of code ... }" and wondering why not call "createFileCleaner" isn't in it's place. Mar 20 11:38:06 All good.. Not having to worry about that stuff makes my future a bit more fun :) Mar 20 11:38:20 Oh I wouldn't write that kind of code Mar 20 11:38:30 baash05, lots of GitHub code is awful :D Mar 20 11:38:30 Eh? Mar 20 11:39:26 That was in a google sample :D Where sharding to smaller well named methods might have helped the reader. Mar 20 11:39:48 Google samples are awful too :P Mar 20 11:39:50 But Yeah.. github isn't super.. Mine included :) Mar 20 11:39:59 Write code so it's readable to you :) Mar 20 11:40:39 I try to write it so I can read it. but I do account for the thing that's going to be reading it the most. Mar 20 11:41:44 thanks Mav'.. Mar 20 12:30:47 Anyone got this before? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=z5mk4&s=9#.Vu6Xed8zrCI I get this when I go "Edit Configurations" or try to run application Mar 20 12:31:17 Bernzel_: wow, that is just a sucky website Mar 20 12:31:23 what's wrong with imgur Mar 20 12:31:40 also, no pic for me Mar 20 12:37:57 thepoosh: Sorry, here: http://imgur.com/GZgHuA6 Mar 20 12:52:47 Anyone know how to resolve that? Mar 20 13:04:09 nvm , solved it Mar 20 13:21:28 Hey, gradlew hangs for some reason with no output when running any command. Is there a fix for this? Mar 20 13:21:38 rm ~/.gradle? Mar 20 13:22:06 shodan`: what task is it hanging on? Mar 20 13:22:12 no output Mar 20 13:22:15 resolveDependencies? Mar 20 13:22:28 try using the --info Mar 20 13:22:30 tag Mar 20 13:22:59 one second, reinstalling gradle atm. Mar 20 13:26:51 It seems to be trying to fetch play services 7 Mar 20 13:27:08 but all requests are miss Mar 20 13:31:45 are you using a vpn/proxy or somethig Mar 20 13:31:57 Anyone here designing their UI without XML ? Mar 20 13:32:22 Bernzel_, its horrible to do that in java Mar 20 13:32:33 My gradle config: https://nnmm.nl/?D3Y Mar 20 13:32:34 there are okish solutions for that in kotlin/scala though Mar 20 13:33:04 shodan`, do you have the local maven repos installed? Mar 20 13:33:15 danijoo: hm okey. Guess I'll have to persevere Mar 20 13:33:40 danijoo: No clue man, been about a year since I've done Android dev. https://sicp.me/p/nUKiN Mar 20 13:33:48 Bernzel_, the java syntax makes it horribly verbose to do android-ui Mar 20 13:34:04 shodan`, you should start by updateing your sdk then Mar 20 13:35:44 Yeah I can imagine danijoo . I'm coming from a long time using Libgdx where you handle everything with pure "Java" so it's a bit unusual for me this Mar 20 13:43:48 danijoo: but I want to do this correctly from the start. Making the ui fit on all screen sizes. Is that something I need to have in mind from the beginning when designing the ui? Mar 20 13:44:35 It's still trying to fetch stuff it can't find Mar 20 13:44:59 Bernzel_, you should read http://developer.android.com/training/multiscreen/index.html Mar 20 13:44:59 compile 'com.android.support:support-v4:22.0.0' Mar 20 13:45:12 no wait wrong one Mar 20 13:45:17 shodan`, as I said you should update your stuff first Mar 20 13:45:19 compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services:8.4.0' Mar 20 13:45:24 22.0.0 is horribly outdated Mar 20 13:45:24 I just updated Mar 20 13:47:57 I fear that my build.gradle is the problem. Mar 20 13:48:02 https://nnmm.nl/?D3Y Mar 20 13:48:35 what error messages do you get Mar 20 13:48:42 this looks fine beside the outdates libs Mar 20 13:49:22 I'm not getting any errors. It just hangs when trying to fetch resources that don't exist (anymore?) https://sicp.me/p/nUKiN Mar 20 13:50:25 it just keeps telling me resouce missing for each lib I use and it tries to fetch them using an url that 404shttps://sicp.me/p/dmMVn Mar 20 13:50:43 AudioFlinger: read failed: framesRead=-1 <- why does this be sapmmed on my logcat Mar 20 13:50:52 shodan`, 8.4 is the current version. Mar 20 13:51:30 shodan`, did you install " Google Repository" in your sdk manager? Mar 20 13:51:39 and all the other google related extra stuff Mar 20 13:52:03 danijoo: any idea? Mar 20 13:53:53 danijoo: yup Mar 20 13:54:17 bubbely, is it from your app? Mar 20 13:54:22 nop Mar 20 13:54:24 nope* Mar 20 13:54:26 app isnt even running Mar 20 13:54:35 dont care the Mar 20 13:54:37 then Mar 20 13:55:28 thing is Mar 20 13:55:33 when my app is runnig its still spamming Mar 20 13:55:38 and i cant even see my other msgs Mar 20 13:55:42 filter the log Mar 20 13:55:49 bubbely: are you filtering? Mar 20 13:56:14 shodan: no Mar 20 13:56:28 side question: anyone know how to convert an entire InputStream to a string, i can onlym anage one line Mar 20 13:57:22 bubbely, easy googleable Mar 20 13:57:44 no luck Mar 20 13:57:50 i tried first 5 googlez Mar 20 13:58:05 try other keywords Mar 20 13:58:19 danijoo: thanks that cleared it up. Is it recommended to use AssetManager ? Very little documentation about it as far as I can see Mar 20 13:58:34 Bernzel_, for what? Mar 20 14:01:20 its fine if you dont abuse it for stuff like images Mar 20 14:01:41 Sounds like it isn't something that will benefit my app massively then? Mar 20 14:02:17 it really depends on what you put there Mar 20 14:02:30 its the only way for shipping a database with your apk or stuff like that Mar 20 14:02:38 not a good solution for images though Mar 20 14:03:20 wouldnt be easier to download the database from a site? Mar 20 14:03:53 bantard, if its static data that never changes? Mar 20 14:04:50 i am not saying to download it every time you open the app Mar 20 14:05:04 just check if its not up to date and then download Mar 20 14:05:29 If it never changes? Mar 20 14:06:19 If it NEVER changes ok, but will it really never change? Maybe I am just missing the context here, I just joined Mar 20 14:06:58 the context was just what to put in assets and what not Mar 20 14:07:10 oh Mar 20 14:07:16 nvm then :D Mar 20 14:07:24 and I said assets are fine for static files you need like databases etc, but not so much for images Mar 20 14:08:01 yeah you're right Mar 20 14:42:34 Anyone have any opinion on which is better to receive results from an IntentService: EventBus or using ResultReceiver as a callback Mar 20 14:45:48 anyone knows decent lib with Tree implementation? Mar 20 14:54:49 I want to modify the sqlite database of an app I didn't develop - what's the best way to go about it? Can I do that with the debugger? Mar 20 14:55:13 hi everyone Mar 20 14:55:45 how can i handle a javaScript method inside a web page in webview android ? Mar 20 14:55:47 using the Support Navigation Drawer that uses a menu to show it's elements, how can I set the active item? Mar 20 14:58:36 esfboy_25: I think this is what you're after: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/webkit/WebView.html#addJavascriptInterface%28java.lang.Object,%20java.lang.String%29 Mar 20 15:03:29 anyone ever managed to compact a DatePicker or TimePicker? Mar 20 15:26:15 Leeds: sup? Mar 20 15:54:10 Hey all Mar 20 15:58:47 thepoosh: upgraded and re-installed PC this afternoon... parents will be in town briefly this week... Mar 20 15:58:58 good(?) Mar 20 15:59:04 it's good :) Mar 20 15:59:08 Win10? Mar 20 15:59:16 God no Mar 20 15:59:22 Slackware 14.2rc1 :) Mar 20 15:59:33 lol Mar 20 16:01:00 and then a month left in HK, a month left (fulltime) on current project, before Pesach in the UK and hopefully new work after Mar 20 16:04:28 I ♥ win10 Mar 20 16:04:56 Hi all, I'm trying to send an ACTION_CALL from a system service but receive android.content.ActivityNotFoundException: No Activity found to handle Intent { act=android.intent.action.CALL flg=0x10000000 } Mar 20 16:21:03 how should i implement a fading pop up that informs the user about something? Mar 20 16:21:11 i have seen this used in my apps Mar 20 16:24:39 Toast is the answer Mar 20 16:24:41 a toast? Mar 20 16:25:42 HELLo anybody here did an app using instagram api ? Mar 20 16:34:14 anyone? :( Mar 20 16:34:35 murosai_ or snackbar Mar 20 16:38:43 im sure this sounds weird, but what would cause a program to just completely exit without any warning or anything when i look up a hostname with InetAddress.getByName ? Mar 20 16:39:19 my app is just doing really weird shit right now. its like not possible to debug when it just quits...i had it working fine connecting to my server before. changed a ton of code, then changed it back, and of course its broken now... Mar 20 16:40:24 its just weird...im looking up a generic hostname too right now just to test. like bestbuy.com. if i look up google.com it just hangs Mar 20 16:43:19 its not even throwing an exception. it just flat out exists hard Mar 20 16:44:38 do I set the text of a TextView in my layout xml file or in the Activity java file? Mar 20 16:44:49 I also want it to be clickable Mar 20 16:48:11 Whats up all. I have a question. Mar 20 16:48:20 When I String pin = (Arrays.toString(userpin)); Mar 20 16:49:28 Pin comes out as [1, 1, 2, 3] how do i just get 1123 without the commans and square brackets? Mar 20 16:49:42 do i have to use regex or is there a simpler way? Mar 20 16:53:12 you could extend your array class and return what you want in an overriden tostring method, or use String replace to remove "[" ", " and "]" Mar 20 16:54:28 overriding tostring seems cleaner to me Mar 20 16:54:58 extending array is absolutely incorrect though Mar 20 16:55:08 use something like guava Joiner Mar 20 16:55:12 ye i mean like looping and appending to stringbuilder Mar 20 16:55:42 i shouldn't be working now... :( Mar 20 16:56:09 then don't Mar 20 16:56:17 there's a version to put out Mar 20 16:56:20 for(String s : array) sb.append(s); return sb.toString(); soemthing like that Mar 20 16:56:21 and much work to do Mar 20 16:56:43 bantard: that is an ugly way to do TextUtils.join Mar 20 16:57:22 well yeah I guess but does join do somethign different or just to have a one-line solution? Mar 20 16:57:24 why do today what you can force an underling to do tomorrow? Mar 20 16:58:02 * thepoosh is sorry he's the underling Mar 20 16:58:27 oh, well something to look forward to then lol Mar 20 16:58:34 wyrdtrtle: we are a pretty small company Mar 20 16:58:51 only 7 android devs and 2 are senior who are doing other shit this week Mar 20 16:59:03 that left five of us slaving away Mar 20 16:59:31 lol, one hopes you may grow Mar 20 17:00:59 well, we grew a lot in the past 2 years Mar 20 17:01:17 I am the second employee of a 78 employee company Mar 20 17:02:29 g00s where are you?!?!?! Mar 20 17:07:38 can I just announce that I'm sick of reading RxAndroid, Kotlin and MVP posts Mar 20 17:08:38 Then stop? :P Mar 20 17:08:44 lol Mar 20 17:09:06 Mavrik stop making him read those posts! Mar 20 17:09:09 I'm reading only titles now Mar 20 17:09:23 Mavrik: did you subscribe to AndroidWeekly Mar 20 17:09:24 ? Mar 20 17:09:28 mhm Mar 20 17:10:07 I agree there's lotsa Kotlin / Rx lately. Mar 20 17:10:17 for the past 6 months all they have there is MVP, Kotlin and RX Mar 20 17:10:56 add to that r/androiddev Mar 20 17:11:00 and all you have is this Mar 20 17:12:19 stop reading? Mar 20 17:18:02 God don't go to /r/androiddev :P Mar 20 17:20:36 ahahah agreed, damn he left Mar 20 17:20:49 https://github.com/patloew/RxWear < they mentionned it in androidweekly Mar 20 17:20:56 -_-" Mar 20 17:21:00 rx-ification Mar 20 17:29:46 So it's not just me? The entire world is not moving to Rx and Koltin everything right? Mar 20 17:30:05 Rx <3 Mar 20 17:30:32 +1 Mar 20 17:31:40 hmmm... sarcam or genuine? Mar 20 17:31:48 (honest question) Mar 20 17:32:19 rowan7 still vanilla here Mar 20 17:32:19 I'm vigilancer and I love Rx Mar 20 17:32:38 I really like /r/androiddev Mar 20 17:33:16 RxJava, Dagger2, Kotlin, MVP... very much the buzz words of Android atm Mar 20 17:33:38 I'm going to look into them all to see what the hype is about, once I get the time :P Mar 20 17:35:05 vigilancer were we talking about the sqlite.org android bindings the other day? i could be confused Mar 20 17:35:28 g00s: yes Mar 20 17:35:53 vigilancer ah ok. well i went ahead to go build those, and noticed poking around the code that sadly - there were more extensive changes then i thought Mar 20 17:36:15 so its not just a simple copy android.database.sqlite.* -> new package Mar 20 17:36:36 so that has me a bit more nervous :( are you using them ? Mar 20 17:37:09 can't find time to play around sadly Mar 20 17:37:11 Anyone here has any experience in android audiorecord? Mar 20 17:37:29 but I've expected damn thing to work straght forward Mar 20 17:38:28 "The stock Android code to populate CursorWindow containers with the results of Mar 20 17:38:28 a SELECT statement uses a C++ interface that is not available to NDK builds. So Mar 20 17:38:28 this code is rewritten to call the CursorWindow java interface via JNI methods." Mar 20 17:38:50 i guess it should work, not sure how well tested it is though Mar 20 17:39:47 also "The "LOCALIZED" collation and some miscellaneous user-functions added by the Mar 20 17:39:47 sqlite3_android.cpp module are not included." Mar 20 17:40:02 hrmf Mar 20 17:41:09 http://imgur.com/qTxL087 when you close AS, genymotion, avd and tabs related to dev.. Mar 20 17:41:40 adq lol Mar 20 17:41:51 fucking overengineered java shit Mar 20 17:42:03 i think i'm gonna extend my ram again (got 8 slots, 4 are still free) Mar 20 17:42:52 * p_l is still waiting on leasing decision for his 32G laptop beast Mar 20 17:44:05 i disabled windows compressed memory features, it could be a bit less worse than that Mar 20 17:44:20 adq what is that graph from ? Mar 20 17:44:27 win10 task manager Mar 20 17:44:31 ah k Mar 20 17:45:59 it's sunday, almost evening, I allowed myself to stop android dev for few hours (lol) and gonna produce some music instead :3 Mar 20 17:46:18 adq, so you're still having like 4GB of mem unused? :) Mar 20 17:46:27 Such a waste. Mar 20 17:46:34 :)) Mar 20 17:46:53 i only had 1 genymotion vm and 1 avd running though Mar 20 17:47:59 also it was barely 2GB remaining, the 3.9 is what's used after freeing all-the-things Mar 20 17:50:54 hi guys, what is the best way to downloads files from a remote server? Mar 20 17:54:46 I was wondering, I am going to be using activated for highlighting one item in a list view, but does it set the activate for other list items to false ... if not do either of these do that so I do not have to find the other activated child item and set activation to false? Mar 20 17:55:17 setActivate or setSelected Mar 20 17:57:00 listview handles that choice_mode_single i think. recyclerview you are on your own Mar 20 17:57:46 What's the difference between a .wav file and pcm file? Mar 20 17:58:08 seems like a question for google Mar 20 17:58:15 Why can’t I write the data from buffer straight to the wav file instead of going through pcm file? Mar 20 17:58:17 anyhowput, a .wav contains 44bytes of header describing the data payload Mar 20 17:58:32 then the pcm file? it will get deleted right? why is that so o.o Mar 20 17:58:42 pcm is not a file but a format, usually uncompressed containing sample amplitude value interleaved if stereo Mar 20 17:59:23 Yeah, PCM isn't a file :) Mar 20 18:00:06 >.< Mar 20 18:00:23 hmm , gimmi a moment Mar 20 18:00:24 anyhowput, what are you trying to achieve? writting to a file recorded audio data? Mar 20 18:00:34 g00s I am using neither of those Mar 20 18:00:49 i chanced upon a link which could be useful and i am trying to understand why is it implemented this way that way etc Mar 20 18:01:15 a horizontal scroll view wrapping a horizontal linear layout with imageviews in them (simple dots) that if active want a bigger dot showing --- like the dots under a gallery for images Mar 20 18:01:28 anyhowput, link about what? Why is what implemented? Mar 20 18:02:24 gimmi a sec , i digging out now :p Mar 20 18:05:22 is there a way to remove all fragments added with a containerId ? Mar 20 18:05:50 i guess i have to keep references to them and remove each , one by one - O.o Mar 20 18:06:21 trying to do stereo recording on android - (https://github.com/krvarma/AudioRecorder/blob/master/src/com/varma/samples/audiorecorder/RecorderActivity.java) Mar 20 18:06:32 regarding the copyWaveFile Mar 20 18:06:59 for line 171,172 Mar 20 18:07:29 is the inFilename the pcm file? while outFilename is the wav file? Mar 20 18:12:25 it looks like, anyhowput Mar 20 18:12:40 hmm then i assume the pcm file will get deleted? Mar 20 18:12:42 why is that so ? Mar 20 18:12:45 you can see he write the header of the wavefile (out) prior to copying data from in Mar 20 18:12:56 why??? i have no idea lol Mar 20 18:13:17 he seems to use a temporary raw file containing only the pcm data Mar 20 18:13:28 and then copy these ones into a .wav after the header Mar 20 18:13:50 probably to fill some fields of the wave file header, like data length Mar 20 18:14:04 could you point to me which line is that ? 178? @@ sorry Mar 20 18:14:27 yes, at 178, he wrote the wav header file inside out Mar 20 18:14:56 you can see he passes to it some needed information, like samplerate, number of channels (mono or stereo), etc Mar 20 18:15:22 so the final wav file will contain a header with information matching the pcm data inside it Mar 20 18:16:06 hmm, interesting.. Mar 20 18:16:06 otherwise, how would you know if the file is mono or stereo, if the samplerate is 44100 or something else, etc without a header Mar 20 18:16:28 magick! Mar 20 18:16:35 hmm what does the header (wav file header i presume) do? It determines the stereo/mono? Mar 20 18:18:16 read about it online Mar 20 18:18:31 http://soundfile.sapp.org/doc/WaveFormat/ cc anyhowput Mar 20 18:18:41 it's an ancestral format Mar 20 18:19:02 (it suffers of few issues, like adressing wave files bigger than 4GB ... :p due to 32 bits for len) Mar 20 18:21:13 hmm , thanks , but i have another question @@ Mar 20 18:21:33 could i ask what does the writeAudioDataToFile (103) do? Mar 20 18:21:47 is it .. Mar 20 18:21:49 adq, there's also the question why not save to mp3 since you have an AAC encoder for it :) Mar 20 18:21:55 eh Mar 20 18:22:02 *save to AAC Mar 20 18:22:07 To write audio data to file, the data will be written into the PCM file first before using the copyWaveFile? Mar 20 18:22:44 Mavrik, I would agree but there are special use case where you want to avoid that at the expense of more memory Mar 20 18:22:51 like for music production or audio edition :) Mar 20 18:23:00 if you want to process it yeah Mar 20 18:23:14 saving end result to wav is a bit problematic tho :) Mar 20 18:23:23 also feeding an audio buffer, is usually directly raw pcm Mar 20 18:23:39 but i see what you mean, it all depends on the use case anyway Mar 20 18:24:06 @adq you mean Mar 20 18:24:09 problem is audiorecord class (and audiotrack) on android are not capable of handling Mar 20 18:24:12 other things than pcm Mar 20 18:24:14 To write audio data to file, the data will be written into the PCM file first before using the copyWaveFile. It lso feeding an audio buffer, is usually directly raw pcm? Mar 20 18:24:22 adq, yeah but that makes sense Mar 20 18:24:26 since that's raw audio :) Mar 20 18:24:26 yup Mar 20 18:24:31 hmm Mar 20 18:24:32 You really can't do anything with encoded audio Mar 20 18:24:57 anyhowput, you should run the code you have and try to understand it Mar 20 18:25:11 i did... Mar 20 18:25:19