**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 21 02:59:58 2016 Mar 21 03:02:51 i have a drawerlayout that gets covered by another view. whats the proper way to debug/find the source of the problem? Mar 21 03:03:01 whats happening - http://i.imgur.com/8O72Edq.png Mar 21 03:03:05 expected - http://i.imgur.com/nWunHWL.png Mar 21 03:03:14 Whats your all's general retention rate as far as current/total installs goes Mar 21 03:04:18 and kuroro...what did you change between the pictures lol Mar 21 03:04:25 1/ Mar 21 03:04:27 1% Mar 21 03:04:46 pfn: 1% current installs to total installs? Mar 21 03:04:59 thats shit Mar 21 03:05:18 serious?! damn Mar 21 03:07:33 here's a sample video demonstrating the problem - http://3.sendvid.com/9rf719n5.mp4 (basically at the 17 second mark, i was able to make drawer fully display by clicking on one of its items ) Mar 21 03:09:33 and here's the xml of the activity - http://pastebin.com/raw/VzGQv49x (im using materialdrawer so you wont see drawerlayout in that xml, but even if i dont use materialdrawer and use drawerlayout manually, i still see same problem) Mar 21 03:17:10 your drawer isn't match parent Mar 21 03:22:16 intersting insight. i'll take note of that, and see if its the case. looking at github, it looks like its using match_parent though - https://github.com/mikepenz/MaterialDrawer/blob/v5.1.5/library/src/main/res/layout/material_drawer.xml . but ill investigate further Mar 21 03:23:36 but i just did an experiment. i replaced the videoview with a and the problem went away. let me try other types of Views Mar 21 03:33:32 What the heck.. Why would I be able to access my protected methods in my tests? I jave a pojo I am testing and I can call protected methods? Mar 21 03:33:46 using junit and mockito Mar 21 03:36:57 same package? Mar 21 03:45:32 hmm. i was able to solve my problem by adding "android:background" to my VideoView. i dont know why it worked. strange Mar 21 03:47:08 dsardari, well I guess that must be it. It is in my test module, but the package name is the same, so that must be it Mar 21 03:47:12 huh. thanks Mar 21 03:54:46 same package Mar 21 03:54:57 "test module" is irrelevant Mar 21 04:52:19 can I use platform/frameworks/opt/datetimepicker Mar 21 05:00:40 Hello Mar 21 05:01:27 When using Android SDK Manager for the first time, what packages are relevant for basic Android development? Mar 21 05:01:44 I already unticked some android TV and Wear stuff Mar 21 05:01:55 What shouldn't I untick? Mar 21 05:02:07 Is the Atom 64 stuff relevant? Mar 21 05:05:47 imo all the qemu images are highly irrelevant Mar 21 05:05:53 genymotion ftw Mar 21 05:08:04 so untick all except..? Mar 21 05:09:20 The Android N isn't really relevant for a one off application right? Mar 21 05:10:09 It is the newest version of android but 6.0 is stable Mar 21 05:10:35 Alright, Android N unticked Mar 21 05:14:42 "Sources for Android SDK"; I assume this is for building Android SDK? Mar 21 05:19:25 rgb-one, I believe so Mar 21 05:20:24 What reason would I as have for building an Android SDK? My use case is a simple calculator application Mar 21 05:27:01 rgb-one: it's also useful for seeing how components are implemented - but you can always install it later if needed. Mar 21 05:28:31 What about the ARM EABI, Intel x86 Atom and Atom_64 stuff? What are they for? Mar 21 05:29:43 My target is mobile phone Mar 21 05:30:44 no Mar 21 05:30:52 sources are for framework Mar 21 05:31:02 and the system images are for emulator Mar 21 05:31:14 sources are not for building, but understanding Mar 21 05:31:44 Alright pfn, what do you recommend I install? Mar 21 05:32:24 exactly what you need and nothing more Mar 21 05:32:35 I don't know what I need Mar 21 05:32:45 just one framework sdk, and one emulator image if desired Mar 21 05:33:08 get 23 sdk and you're done Mar 21 05:33:12 ARM EABI is for mobile phones? Mar 21 05:33:44 no Mar 21 05:33:55 it's just an abi for emulator Mar 21 05:34:03 don't bother with emulator at all Mar 21 05:34:22 I can just plug my phone in right? Mar 21 05:35:03 yes Mar 21 05:35:26 So I unticked all but Documentation, SDK platform and Samples for SDK (I assume these are examples) Mar 21 05:36:19 Under the Android 6.0 (API 23) category that is Mar 21 05:38:16 this part isn't hard to figure out, just do it until you can build Mar 21 05:39:00 What is the Google API useful for? Mar 21 05:39:10 rgb-one: making use of google services Mar 21 05:39:26 google api is no longer useful Mar 21 05:40:13 Well, I doubt it is for this calculator app Mar 21 05:49:00 less ask, more. do Mar 21 06:01:25 less do, more be Mar 21 06:04:06 huh... most recent build I have of day-job app is May 2015 Mar 21 06:19:14 pfn: Alright, packages installed and project created Mar 21 06:28:28 Hi, I am using volley for a request, and show toast using Activity.this as context when requestf fails. This is causing a leak. Will switching to getApplicationContext fix this leak? Mar 21 07:00:26 astroduck: could be. puting activities in runnables/callbacks may cause leaks Mar 21 08:56:20 hi! Mar 21 08:58:31 is Android Studio 2.0 still in Preview? Mar 21 08:59:28 Hey guys, anyone used facebook sdk ? Mar 21 08:59:57 It's only for API 15+ ? Mar 21 09:00:20 So If my app is API 9+, I can't use it, or is there any solutions ? Mar 21 09:05:07 I saw someone mention compatibility version in stack post, but I can't find it Mar 21 09:05:27 why would your app be 9+? Mar 21 09:06:08 apps shouldnt be adults only Mar 21 09:20:51 Leeds, we sell transit tickets for bus & train, so we go as low as we can Mar 21 09:32:15 Hello guys, I made a simple compass, but there's just to much stutter in the compass movement. I tried a simple lowpass filter as suggested on some stack overflow, but I still have that small shaking movements. Does anyone knows of a good solution for my compass problem? Mar 21 10:10:17 hi! Mar 21 10:12:56 I am using Android Studio 2.1 Preview 3, and with some simple NDK code all my #include lines are red. fox example: #include #include . the problem is only in editor, the compile process and application on device run with no problems Mar 21 10:14:12 any ideas why this is happening? Mar 21 10:21:30 Hey. I'm putting some buttons and textfield together in my layout file. Is it possible to change the font to one of my own in xml? It's a ttf font Mar 21 10:22:13 not unless you create a custom view with it's own attributes Mar 21 10:23:26 Bernzel_, https://github.com/chrisjenx/Calligraphy Mar 21 10:26:27 danijoo: Do I have to use third party libraries for this really? How can there not be a native solution for this? Mar 21 10:26:42 no you dont have to Mar 21 10:27:16 you can also spend a few hours/days and implement it on your own Mar 21 10:27:43 oh. So it can't be created with xml even? Mar 21 10:27:49 I'll have to do my own Button class etc? Mar 21 10:28:34 you would have to load your font from the assets, create a TypeFace object and set it on every view that should use that font Mar 21 10:29:00 thats the NIH-syndrome solution ;) Mar 21 10:29:08 Hello everyone Mar 21 10:30:12 I am going to develop a Ludo game in Android (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludo_(board_game)) and would like to use the right tools for the job (I have experience in developing Android apps but no games so far). Can you recommend me libraries that game developers/studios use? Mar 21 10:30:38 syntagma, libgdx or unity Mar 21 10:32:40 libgdx all the way syntagma Mar 21 10:32:53 danijoo: thanks btw, I'll use that library :p Mar 21 10:33:08 thanks. Isn't unity more popular in the game industry? Mar 21 10:33:43 popular isn't always best. Mar 21 10:34:08 you might get your game done faster with it because its less manual coding Mar 21 10:34:24 but both are viable options and good games have been written using both Mar 21 10:36:40 I have a WebView that has a WebChromeClient set to it that overrides the onJsAlert method and only does return super.onJsAlert(view, url, message, result); inside; However , when an alert is created from a webpage the alert dialog is shown *behind* the webview, any ideas why? Should I bypass the super.onJSAlert and create my own dialog? Mar 21 10:38:09 by behind I mean that I only see the alert dialog after I close the webview Mar 21 10:38:22 because it is displayed behind it Mar 21 10:39:07 maybe the context isn't right, i.e. the view passed to super.onJSAlert Mar 21 10:58:17 danijoo: with that library, does the font have to be in a "asset" folder? Mar 21 10:58:56 Bernzel_, what are the docs saying? Mar 21 10:59:42 it says to put them in asset folder, but I thought maybe that wasn't necessary since suddenly my project can't resolve R after doing so Mar 21 11:02:43 oh wait, I need to create my own Application class Mar 21 11:03:48 yes. it shares the typeface accross all your textview instances to reduce overall memory Mar 21 11:03:57 thats why it must be initialized somewhere at start Mar 21 11:05:09 I see. Mar 21 12:06:07 What's the syntax for running "gradlew --refresh-dependencies" ? I can't run that as it is, I must be missing something Mar 21 12:12:05 Bernzel_: it's an option, you still need a command - gradlew --refresh-dependencies build, for example Mar 21 12:27:34 I have a 1080x1920px image that I use as background for my Layout. But I get "Bitmap too large to be uploaded into a texture" warnings and the image isn't drawn on the screen. Do I have to make multiple sizes of this image ? Mar 21 12:30:03 Bernzel__, you could resize it in runtime as well Mar 21 12:40:40 hithere Mar 21 12:41:03 I am trying to implement Toolbar activity and use it as old ActionBar Mar 21 12:41:21 using this guide http://developer.android.com/training/appbar/setting-up.html#utility Mar 21 12:42:58 ktwo: how? Mar 21 12:57:58 Bernzel__, theres not only one way. maybe google for resize background drawable programmatically Mar 21 13:01:42 bolovanos, ... and? Mar 21 13:02:41 Zharf, and of story - found solution for my problem right after I created screen shots :) Mar 21 13:50:08 so, i connect to wifi with captive portal Mar 21 13:50:24 nice, i can just try to ping google to see if i have actually network connection Mar 21 13:50:30 which will tell me i dont Mar 21 13:50:55 but how to know if user signs in to that captive portal Mar 21 13:51:10 no event or broadcast is triggered then Mar 21 13:59:03 anypony? Mar 21 14:00:29 Ashiren: check for a 204 from http://clients3.google.com/generate_204 Mar 21 14:01:04 i know Mar 21 14:01:07 i do that Mar 21 14:01:53 but i need to know when user signs in, so when to check internet again Mar 21 14:18:51 ktwo: is putting the image in "drawable-nodpi" instead of just drawable a valid option? Mar 21 14:19:41 why not just put it into the drawable folder? Is it an svg? Mar 21 14:20:55 Bernzel__, i personally wouldnt use a full-hd image for any background purpose. actually - any image. Its rarely seen, flat colors are the modern approach Mar 21 14:21:57 ktwo: indeed, but this is in fact the layout I'll be going for, I have no choice. Mar 21 14:23:15 and it did work to put it in that folder it seems. weird Mar 21 14:31:18 Zharf, ad Toolbar - yes I have found something else Mar 21 14:31:22 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26464326/how-do-i-make-drawerlayout-to-display-below-the-toolbar Mar 21 14:32:15 My content was behind Toolbar - like if it were in RelativeLayout set with gravity top Mar 21 14:32:43 Wrapping with Relative layout did not work Mar 21 14:33:31 what worked was former content wrapped with "android.support.v4.widget.DrawerLayout" as told on that stack link Mar 21 14:35:38 question is why has to be wrapped in an such obscure way? - or is there better way to do what I need (Toolbar than content lined up to the lowest part of the toolbar)...? Mar 21 14:41:57 another thing is that with "android.support.v4.widget.DrawerLayout" FAB android.support.design.widget.FloatingActionButton disappears Mar 21 14:42:12 probably it is behind that Drawer Layout Mar 21 14:49:16 bolovanos, would need to see your layout Mar 21 14:51:35 yes Mar 21 15:00:15 Zharf, give me some time, I was about to push it to git, but it collapsed Mar 21 15:00:55 is it possible to properly embed mapView into fragment? When I do this it becomes slow and unresponsive. And my layout is pretty simple Mar 21 15:02:07 vohsalab: do you mean MapsFragment? Mar 21 15:04:37 nope just mapView Mar 21 15:04:51 can I use mapView as common view not as root view? Mar 21 15:05:32 Does anyone have an example of using a pageradapter with a different cursor for each page? I've tried using a "CursorPagerAdapter" implementation but everything I have tried results in swiping left or right to the same results Mar 21 15:26:19 Can I specify two "gravity" values for a EditText ? Now I got "android:gravity="center_horizontal" " which does the job of centering the text horizontally, but I need it to centered vertically too Mar 21 15:29:17 Bernzel__: yes just add '|' between the different values Mar 21 15:31:47 so simple, and so easy to forget... thanks thepoosh Mar 21 15:35:15 <[twisti]> where do icon packs put the icon files ? im trying to access them from tasker but i cant find them Mar 21 15:43:05 hey hey ... Mar 21 15:43:45 anyone familiar with this type of error : com.fasterxml.jackson.databind.JsonMappingException: No suitable constructor found for type [simple type, class net.we4x4.we4x4.LoginSection$userInformation]: can not instantiate from JSON object (need to add/enable type information?) Mar 21 15:45:37 No suitable construct ? someone suggested that it is because of a missing no-arg construct of an inner class that need to be declared static ? and i really did not understand that, and going over my code http://pastie.org/10768776 i couldnt find something like that ? Mar 21 15:46:02 its firebase Mar 21 15:47:43 Is it possible to apply a drawable/image on top of the "top bar" / "action bar" or whatever it's called. So remove the text that's currently there, keep the color and put a drawable centered on top of the bar Mar 21 16:02:19 Bernzel_ that was not reply on my question right !? Mar 21 16:03:52 well Mar 21 16:05:40 try to make the inner class public tatic Mar 21 16:10:09 you mean the inner class of usrInformation Mar 21 16:16:40 yes Mar 21 16:27:49 Ashiren: for the rescue! Mar 21 16:40:55 hey all.. can anyone tell me how to set the wError switch when compiling w gradle? Mar 21 16:55:47 ugh, my 2013 moto x is dying, it won't hold a charge, maybe I need to reorder the 5x now that they fixed their lag problems, allegedly Mar 21 16:57:34 I've followed this guide in every detail: http://developer.android.com/training/appbar/setting-up.html and still I get "Missing styles. Is the correct theme chosen for this layout" "NOTE: one or more layouts are missing the w/h attributes" although I have defined the layout width / height Mar 21 16:59:06 huh? how does the "activate with project fi" work, if I just buy a nexus phone and activate fi, then switch back to my regular provider, it gives the $150 credit? Mar 21 16:59:10 jeez, that's like easy... Mar 21 17:20:38 slow day Mar 21 17:20:47 agree haha Mar 21 17:20:49 apple event Mar 21 17:22:12 <|PiP|> im trying to import assets into my drawable folder using android studio, but whenever i try to import it and using the built-in resizer, it puts the assets into mipmap. how can i import into drawable and have android studio automatically resize the assets for each resolution aswell? Mar 21 17:48:20 how to you stop the android emulator from autocompleteing Mar 21 17:48:24 in a textbox Mar 21 17:48:45 same way you do it on a device Mar 21 17:49:26 the only poroblem is, I can't get around on the device in the settings, I can only see like the first few things Mar 21 17:50:37 it doesn't reach to my scrollwheel, there's no scrollbars Mar 21 17:50:43 not real sure how to use it Mar 21 17:50:46 you drag Mar 21 17:52:08 hm.. I guess that's my real problem, tghe dragging isn't working Mar 21 17:52:23 it just opejns whatever I've clicked Mar 21 17:52:37 are you holding it down? Mar 21 17:52:52 nope, but it's very slow.. it's possible it doesn't react fast enough Mar 21 17:53:02 then that’s not a drag Mar 21 17:53:06 seems like it freezes for a sec when I click, then it just opens whatever without detecting my drag Mar 21 17:53:07 you have to hold down the mouse button Mar 21 17:53:10 get a device Mar 21 17:53:23 yeah I need to Mar 21 17:53:28 this is jhust really hard lol Mar 21 17:53:59 the emulator is absolute shit, and google should be ashamed to have released it as they did Mar 21 17:54:30 s73v3r have you tried the new ones ? Mar 21 17:54:33 no Mar 21 17:54:56 I guess one thing I can do.., I'll just prefill out everything so I don't have to type anything, that should get me moving again Mar 21 17:55:03 until I can buy a device Mar 21 17:55:08 not sure what to buy also Mar 21 17:55:14 doesn’t matter Mar 21 17:55:24 something of this year or last Mar 21 17:55:31 maybe a nexus Mar 21 17:55:44 but I’d suggest a samsung, if it’s your only device Mar 21 17:56:06 I guess I have the htc evo 4g Mar 21 17:56:16 that’s pretty old. Mar 21 17:56:46 but it has a lot of GBs Mar 21 17:57:17 lol anyone else remember that htc evo 4g / iphone video ... Mar 21 17:57:30 'but i want an iphone' Mar 21 17:57:33 'why' Mar 21 17:57:35 the one with the autogenerated animation? Mar 21 17:57:37 'because' Mar 21 17:57:39 yeah Mar 21 17:57:53 the only thiung is, this complicates things... Mar 21 17:58:06 cause now I can't reach the web service for testing Mar 21 17:58:12 Postman Mar 21 17:58:29 is this something on the side, or something for work? Mar 21 17:58:42 I actually have a project at work and at home Mar 21 17:58:49 I nmeed for both really Mar 21 17:58:59 but right now, for work Mar 21 17:59:11 then tell them to go buy you something today Mar 21 17:59:14 for home, I can pout the webservices outside more easily Mar 21 17:59:20 there is zero excuse for work not providing you with what you need Mar 21 17:59:45 ai, th Mar 21 17:59:51 hmm that's true! Mar 21 18:00:09 of course it’s true. Why would you put up with anything else? Mar 21 18:01:33 but you won’t be able to use that device for your side project Mar 21 18:01:53 well at home I have my wifes s4 mini Mar 21 18:01:59 I can test on that Mar 21 18:02:12 at work I don't think this evo will cut it, it doesn't appear on the list of devices Mar 21 18:02:17 likely, not new enough Mar 21 18:02:20 nope Mar 21 18:02:29 tell them to go out and buy you something recent, today Mar 21 18:02:36 and that you won’t be able to progress until you get it Mar 21 18:02:49 hm ok sounds good Mar 21 18:02:58 if they’re a halfway decent company, they should have no problem at the very least ordering you something today Mar 21 18:09:51 ordered a 5x again Mar 21 18:11:28 :) Mar 21 18:14:16 and I thought there was an N preview update over this weekend Mar 21 18:15:34 Hmm, no idea, on Nexus 9 OTAs are still disabled afaik Mar 21 18:17:31 pfn didn't you already have a 5x ? Mar 21 18:18:17 Mavrik: how are they disabled? Mar 21 18:18:29 * p_l got Android N through OTA, it just took 3 days or so... Mar 21 18:19:17 p_l, https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=203007#c64 Mar 21 18:23:44 Hello Mar 21 18:24:40 how come when i compile 4.4.2 from source, the files in /system/lib are way larger, and they don't work as drop-in replacements on a device running 4.4.2? Mar 21 18:25:44 this isn’t really the right channel for that. this is app development Mar 21 18:25:55 you could try #android-root Mar 21 18:27:30 s73v3r: thanks Mar 21 18:42:36 Should I use shared properties to save login username ? Mar 21 18:42:51 you can. or you could use the accounts manager Mar 21 18:43:00 hm, iPhone SE starts at $400 ... was hoping maybe $350 w/32GB Mar 21 18:43:18 I mean Shared Preferences * Mar 21 18:44:53 we got what you meant Mar 21 18:45:24 g00s: yeah, weird that it starts at 16, but then goes up to 64 Mar 21 18:49:05 g00s, did, returned it, getting it again now that lag issues have been allegedly fixed Mar 21 18:50:04 $400 dolar phone, state of art comedy lol Mar 21 18:51:17 $350, but whatever Mar 21 18:52:00 huh really Mar 21 18:52:09 That's pretty good price for an iPhone Mar 21 18:52:12 and $400 for a phone is cheap, how is that comedy Mar 21 18:52:18 iphone is $700? Mar 21 18:52:19 no, the iPhone is $400 Mar 21 18:52:27 oh, is that what's coming out of loop you in? Mar 21 18:52:30 thought we're talking 5x Mar 21 18:52:36 that's why it's funny Mar 21 18:52:45 well, iphone 5c was cheap Mar 21 18:52:45 most flagships are about the same price, be they iPhones or Androids Mar 21 18:53:05 the latest nexus is above the norm then Mar 21 18:53:26 one would be a little hard pressed to call Nexus phones flagships, given that they usually have midrange specs Mar 21 18:53:47 6p isn't midrange, neither was 6, 4 and 5 and gn were midrange though Mar 21 18:54:25 6p costs $500 Mar 21 18:54:37 Didn't bother looking at the specs but it better be flagship lol Mar 21 18:54:39 so the iphone price has fallen dramatically then Mar 21 18:54:41 6 might not have been, but then everyone was bitching about the price Mar 21 18:54:50 6 was flagship specs Mar 21 18:55:05 i meant 6 not being midrange Mar 21 18:55:13 right Mar 21 18:55:58 anyway, this iPhone isn't expensive at all Mar 21 18:56:09 I'm shcked Mar 21 18:56:25 sounds thoroughly midrange then Mar 21 18:56:31 4", lcd, midrange4 specs, etc. Mar 21 18:56:50 it’s got the same features as all the other iPhones: TouchID, Apple Pay, high res camera and screen Mar 21 18:57:04 it has a good CPU Mar 21 18:57:10 wait SE isn't flagship Mar 21 18:57:26 it’s pretty close. A lot closer than the 5c was Mar 21 18:57:47 it’s got a 64bit A9 chip, and the motion coprocessor Mar 21 18:57:59 it’s pretty much a 6s in a smaller case Mar 21 18:58:07 well, it's taking last year's phone and selling it again Mar 21 18:58:11 that makes it midrange this year Mar 21 18:58:11 Oh it starts at $400 not $350 Mar 21 18:58:20 casadogg, yeah, I was mixing up context when I said that Mar 21 18:58:39 hmm Mar 21 18:58:44 this changes stuff Mar 21 18:59:02 it's a new old phone Mar 21 19:07:26 How many published apps do you guys have? I'll publish one but can't decide between iap or ads Mar 21 19:07:37 I mean I'm inclined to IAP because ads just plainly suck Mar 21 19:08:44 "Apple's iPad Pro 9.7: An iPad Air 3 that costs $100 extra" lol yeah, i'm not buying that Mar 21 19:09:04 casadogg ads suck Mar 21 19:10:59 g00s right on! Mar 21 19:14:29 ads suck, but they’re one of the only reliable ways to make money Mar 21 19:17:03 casadogg, make a free and a paid version Mar 21 19:17:17 soon enough you will see the paid one will earn you close to nothing :p Mar 21 19:17:42 people prefer paying with their data and soul. sad but true :( Mar 21 19:18:00 if the app is good I think people will be inclined to purchase stuff Mar 21 19:18:11 if it's bad then it's bad and I'll discontinue it Mar 21 19:18:20 or try to improve it to the point where it doesn't suck Mar 21 19:18:22 some will Mar 21 19:18:37 but the number is small compared to users willing to use an app without paying Mar 21 19:18:49 its not a matter of sucking or not :/ Mar 21 19:18:57 when you mean make one free and one paid you mean one free with ads and one paid without ads? Mar 21 19:19:10 if you want that. yes Mar 21 19:19:18 hmm Mar 21 19:19:19 or only with ads and IAP to remove them Mar 21 19:19:48 sounds good too Mar 21 19:27:09 when using Thread thread, is there a way to wait until the thread is complete before doing the next thing? Mar 21 19:27:20 Thread thread = new Thread(new Runnable(){ etc Mar 21 19:27:37 it seems like the ui responds before the thread is complete, but it's hard to tell Mar 21 19:27:39 you can join on the thread. Is that what you wnat? Mar 21 19:27:45 oh nvm Mar 21 19:27:56 you want to run on the ui thread after that thread is complete Mar 21 19:28:14 if you want to do that, you have to post back to the ui thread with a handler Mar 21 19:28:14 well, I was hopeing I can block until the thread is complete Mar 21 19:28:23 what thread do you want to block? Mar 21 19:28:30 well I'm doing an http post Mar 21 19:28:37 I want everything to just wait until I'm done Mar 21 19:28:57 but it seems to complete things before the thread is complete, I guess I need to use a callback orsomething Mar 21 19:29:33 http://pastebin.com/Wh8LmdRw Mar 21 19:29:41 flickr has a job application pitch in their HTML code Mar 21 19:30:20 seems like this thread completes after I've left the function idk Mar 21 19:30:53 does anyone know whats supposed to happen when you create a fragment, call setTarget() on it, and then rotate the screen - are we supposed to setTarget() on that again if we see it in the fragment manager ? Mar 21 19:31:53 guideX: why are you running in a separate thread like that? Mar 21 19:32:13 herriojr: It gives me an error if I don't Mar 21 19:32:21 Let me get the err Mar 21 19:32:24 one sec Mar 21 19:32:29 guideX: ok, that's because you're on the UI thread then Mar 21 19:32:34 it's like "Cannot do internet from main thread" something like that Mar 21 19:32:44 herriojr: is there another way to avoid that problem? Mar 21 19:32:46 guideX: yeah, so you can't block Mar 21 19:32:54 guideX: yeah, don't block Mar 21 19:33:17 guideX: have you tried looking at something like retrofit for your network communication/ Mar 21 19:33:34 Is it possible to cast to a generic type? Mar 21 19:33:35 I haven't checked that Mar 21 19:33:59 generics give me a headache Mar 21 19:34:27 I'm also not sure why I asked before just trying that... ignore me Mar 21 19:34:28 herriojr: blocking is the exact behavior I want, is there a way to block? perhaps no thread, but it's ok that way? Mar 21 19:34:38 can I perhaps use communications on the main thread? Mar 21 19:35:09 the way it forces network communication off the main thread is pretty annoying lol Mar 21 19:35:30 then it forces me into this pattern of callbacks which I wasn't planning for Mar 21 19:36:12 guideX: you get used to it Mar 21 19:36:34 guideX: but look at retrofit and something like rxjava or you could do an asynctask Mar 21 19:36:36 herriojr: I was also thinking, would it be horrible to go into a loop with a Thread.sleep and wait for completion? Mar 21 19:36:46 guideX, yes Mar 21 19:36:55 guideX: any blocking or sleeping on a ui thread is bad Mar 21 19:36:55 guideX, use proper threading mechanisms rather than sleep Mar 21 19:37:00 but wait()/notify() satisfies that need Mar 21 19:37:07 sleeping on any thread is bad Mar 21 19:37:19 why Mar 21 19:37:28 read jcip Mar 21 19:37:33 it's sending communications, don't want the user to use it during that time anyways Mar 21 19:37:48 blocking IS what I want, so the user doesn't click more buttons Mar 21 19:38:09 well ok, i'll try the other ways though Mar 21 19:38:20 guideX: trust us, you don't Mar 21 19:38:22 blocking is wrong Mar 21 19:38:26 regardless of what you "want" Mar 21 19:40:07 having a tough time finding a good web link on the subject if anyone knows one Mar 21 19:40:52 read jcip Mar 21 19:40:59 . Mar 21 19:41:32 hmm don't have that one Mar 21 19:41:40 I'll check it out if I ever find it though Mar 21 19:41:54 you can also do rx Mar 21 19:42:14 which solves pretty much the same problem Mar 21 19:42:18 why would you block everything Mar 21 19:42:27 cluelessness :P Mar 21 19:42:30 casadogg: why not Mar 21 19:42:40 I don't want the ui responding to the user during a http post Mar 21 19:42:44 that simple Mar 21 19:42:44 depends on what you mean by blocking Mar 21 19:42:47 do you mean setting up a loader? Mar 21 19:43:09 and letting the user wait while he stares at the loader Mar 21 19:43:23 well, when the user clicks "login" I want the whole ui to be frozen in place until I gget a response or a failure Mar 21 19:43:44 otherwise, now I must worryu that they'll click this, and that Mar 21 19:43:50 who knows what'll happen Mar 21 19:44:01 I kind of want no part of these threads Mar 21 19:44:01 wrong way to think Mar 21 19:44:19 hrm ok Mar 21 19:44:20 the way I see it, you have to add something to indicate the user is logging in Mar 21 19:44:23 an indicator Mar 21 19:44:28 else the user will think the application hang up Mar 21 19:44:41 well it'll hang for a second Mar 21 19:45:02 as in hung up for good Mar 21 19:45:19 ok, well i'll keep looking around for what to do, jeez in c# sending an http post is butt easy Mar 21 19:45:32 guideX, the wrong way, sure Mar 21 19:45:38 the same is true in java Mar 21 19:45:47 yeah, buyt you must use threads in java with yuour http post Mar 21 19:45:54 you must in C# as well Mar 21 19:45:58 not like in c# at all, it blocks, the way I'd expect it to Mar 21 19:46:05 hey! anyone know the best time in an app to download json data? Should it be at onCreate method? onResume? Mar 21 19:46:10 see, you're doing it the *WRONG* way in C# Mar 21 19:46:21