**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 22 02:59:58 2016 Mar 22 03:01:19 s/just//g Mar 22 03:15:06 is there a java class for manipulating/comparing timestamps? Mar 22 03:16:04 i.e. a string Mar 22 03:16:27 what^ Mar 22 03:20:36 timestamps are just `long` Mar 22 03:21:15 DateFormat.parse() Mar 22 03:22:20 if you search "strtotime java" you will find some starter code Mar 22 03:22:39 probably on stackoverflow Mar 22 03:27:04 its not that I can't figure it out Mar 22 03:27:13 its that someone smarter than me probably has a better solution Mar 22 03:35:29 <|PiP|> how can i make a simple layout where a view is stuck to the bottom always (footer) and the rest of the content fills up the remainder of the view Mar 22 03:35:49 <|PiP|> im trying to use a webview and attach a "footer" for navigation Mar 22 03:39:37 PiP: with a relative layout it should be obvious how to do this. Mar 22 03:39:53 what's the issue? Mar 22 03:40:11 <|PiP|> hmm im trying with a relativeLayout Mar 22 03:40:35 <|PiP|> http://paste.ofcode.org/xHDnBZZcmfRS56cRGhB3R8 Mar 22 03:41:30 <|PiP|> the issue I'm facing w/ my code is that the WebView is sitting under the footer Mar 22 03:41:34 layout_below Mar 22 03:41:43 remove the alignparentbottom Mar 22 03:42:51 relativeLayout has a bug with alignParentBottom and makes the height of the view fill the entire screen. Mar 22 03:43:13 one solution is to give an explicit height to the LinearLayout Mar 22 03:43:28 <|PiP|> when I use layout_below, the webview takes up the entire viewport Mar 22 03:43:40 refactorial ha orly ? i thought it was just me Mar 22 03:44:51 although its so old, would have thought all bugs have been fixed by now Mar 22 03:44:52 g00s yeah, the other workaround is to use a FrameLayout and use layout_gravity and you can specify `bottom` for gravity. Mar 22 03:45:43 There are alot of lingering bugs the Android Devs don't fix :( Mar 22 03:45:51 <|PiP|> refactorial: can you show me an example Mar 22 03:45:55 I don't know why this one has been ignored. Mar 22 03:46:25 I don't recall alignParentBottom doing that Mar 22 03:46:28 PiP: android:layout_height="50dp" for your LinearLayout Mar 22 03:46:30 and I use it pretty often Mar 22 03:46:40 Guys, is there a way not to call all methods in an interface? Mar 22 03:46:49 br0mahn, not implement all? no Mar 22 03:46:57 interfaces must be fully implemented Mar 22 03:47:03 yea, just overriding some. Mar 22 03:47:05 google maps pliss -__- Mar 22 03:47:14 pfn: ok thanks Mar 22 03:47:19 maybe they fixed it in later version and PiP is using an older device I don't know. I remember that bug being there for many android versions. Mar 22 03:47:34 <|PiP|> im testing this on simulator, 6.0.1 Mar 22 03:47:37 <|PiP|> and a nexus 6p Mar 22 03:48:20 PiP let me know if setting layout_height="50dp" made it to bottom. Mar 22 03:49:19 <|PiP|> the issue isn't that it is'nt at the bottom Mar 22 03:49:29 <|PiP|> the issue is that the LinearLayout is on top of the webview Mar 22 03:49:33 <|PiP|> it covers a portion of it Mar 22 03:50:06 oh I see, add layout_above="@+id/bottom_bar" to your WebView Mar 22 03:50:22 br0mahn you could create an abstract class that implements the interface then extend that. kind of weird though. Mar 22 03:50:32 <|PiP|> ahh there we go! Mar 22 03:51:05 PiP does it still work properly if you change back layout_height="wrap_content" in LinearLayout? Mar 22 03:51:12 <|PiP|> refactorial: yes it does Mar 22 03:51:26 ok great, I guess that bug has been fixed :) Mar 22 03:51:54 <|PiP|> Okay great! thank you very much. been writing layouts only for a few days now trying to get the hang of things ! Mar 22 03:52:05 dsardari: pfn: thanks though. I found a way https://blogs.oracle.com/CoreJavaTechTips/entry/listeners_vs_adapters Mar 22 03:52:24 that isn't a way Mar 22 03:52:34 many interfaces on android don't follow that pattern Mar 22 03:52:49 <|PiP|> are there any good guides that show you common design guidelines and what to use in each scenario to achieve certain common layouts? Mar 22 03:52:57 listeners are callbacks are hard to keep neat and organized Mar 22 03:53:05 I find them extremly confusing sometimes Mar 22 03:54:06 br0mahn: The answer is yes, you can create a class not implementing all methods of an interface. Mar 22 03:54:19 br0mahn: It's called an "abstract class" and has to be marked as such. Mar 22 03:54:34 br0mahn: Such classes can't be instantiated, but only subclasssed further. Mar 22 04:03:04 |PiP|: the easiest way is to use a linear layout, set layout_weight="1" layout_height="0dp" on the "rest of the content", and leave layout_weight unset on the bottom item <|PiP|> how can i make a simple layout where a view is stuck to the bottom always (footer) and the rest of the content fills up the remainder of the view Mar 22 04:22:44 loke, not quite the intent of the question, though, I'm sure Mar 22 04:23:06 * pfn writes a macro to generate concrete classes from interfaces Mar 22 04:24:04 single[ListenerType].listenerMethod((args) => body) Mar 22 04:25:40 Whoa, I just spent 6 hours doing a major refactoring and I didn't have a single crash when I finally got my code able to run. I think I earned a beer Mar 22 04:35:13 anyone have any opinons on project structure? layer vs feature? or something else? Mar 22 04:35:51 look up android boilerplate on github Mar 22 04:36:05 its overarchitected Mar 22 04:36:26 but so far its working very nicely for this project Mar 22 04:36:33 I only used a portion of the libraries they do Mar 22 04:36:50 cool AHBottomNavigation got auto hiding behavior Mar 22 04:37:54 dsardari i'm trying something like this https://medium.com/the-engineering-team/package-by-features-not-layers-2d076df1964d Mar 22 04:38:24 this one? https://github.com/hitherejoe/Android-Boilerplate Mar 22 04:41:06 https://github.com/ribot/android-boilerplate Mar 22 04:41:12 didn't realize there was more than one Mar 22 04:41:55 with this I could develop my app with network calls Mar 22 04:42:24 then easily go back and add persistence with a database so you don't need to make unnecessary network calls Mar 22 04:42:47 the DataManager makes it really easy to hide and change the implementation Mar 22 04:45:00 looks like the ribot one is a fork of the one i linked. weird. Mar 22 04:45:37 and not vice versa? Mar 22 04:45:56 oh you're right Mar 22 04:45:59 i never noticed Mar 22 04:46:19 yeah i kind of have a mix of both. a data layer, service layer and a group of feature packages like goos linked. Mar 22 04:46:34 just trying to get an idea of what people here are doing Mar 22 04:55:28 I can't believe how much time I've spent on this app already Mar 22 04:55:34 and it barely does anything Mar 22 04:55:59 RustyShackleford lol, welcome to android Mar 22 04:56:34 if the #s are to be believed, in an alternative universe your iOS port would be 30% further ahead Mar 22 04:56:45 is that really true? Mar 22 04:56:48 Really? Mar 22 04:56:58 we're really struggling to keep up with the iOS team Mar 22 04:57:18 Most iOS teams I've worked beside end up staying pretty much side by side Mar 22 04:57:33 it could definitely just be my team Mar 22 04:57:38 Although I think they do generally have a little more time for polish Mar 22 04:58:42 3 network calls, database persistence Mar 22 04:59:06 some adapters, and the UI that android studio generated Mar 22 04:59:13 6 weeks probably Mar 22 04:59:28 2 be fair, one of those things is very much not like the others Mar 22 04:59:35 Database persistence done right takes time Mar 22 05:00:07 sqlbrite and rxjava Mar 22 05:00:10 pretty neat Mar 22 05:00:26 I need to check out sqlbrite Mar 22 05:01:03 queries return and observable and when a table is updated you recieve the new query result Mar 22 05:01:20 *an observable Mar 22 05:02:28 * pfn hasn't had a problem keeping up with ios teams Mar 22 05:02:34 receive* Mar 22 05:02:34 my latest project had android ahead of ios Mar 22 05:03:11 Yeah it's a weird argument. This tells more about each team's expertise on their respective platform than anything else. Mar 22 05:03:13 but overall, it seems harder to find good android developers vs. ios Mar 22 05:03:51 i remember reading years ago, most android devs were hobbyists Mar 22 05:03:53 java stuff has too many moving parts, probably Mar 22 05:04:09 many people got into iOS to make money from the get go Mar 22 05:05:03 well, you practically have to make money for the initial investment to be worthwhile Mar 22 05:06:13 thats the main reason I got into android hah Mar 22 05:06:28 I liked the idea of writing mobile apps Mar 22 05:06:29 I got into android because it leveraged my java expertise Mar 22 05:06:30 RustyShackleford these are the #s i was talking about https://infinum.co/the-capsized-eight/articles/android-development-is-30-percent-more-expensive-than-ios Mar 22 05:06:37 but didn't want to pay Mar 22 05:06:59 i know, everybody is going to cry foul :) Mar 22 05:07:34 * pfn shrugs Mar 22 05:07:39 random blog does not make fact Mar 22 05:07:47 some data > no data :) Mar 22 05:08:46 mobile dev shops are in unique place to see this, because its common to do contract / quote for both platforms Mar 22 05:08:54 across many projects Mar 22 05:09:10 and it just makes common sense, if you have to test on lots of devices Mar 22 05:10:19 anyhow, i'd rather do android if only to avoid apple approvals Mar 22 05:10:57 do you see many device specific bugs? Mar 22 05:11:02 and how do you solve them? Mar 22 05:11:27 here's how it goes at work: we have a defect on a galaxy s6. well we don't have one Mar 22 05:11:31 defect resolved Mar 22 05:11:55 for hardware apis, yes - but for simple stuff not really. differences are more across versions of android Mar 22 05:12:15 UI bugs Mar 22 05:12:32 my guess is that a newer version of the support library would solve these Mar 22 05:14:03 You'll make more money with a salary at a company than individually on a mobile app, that's for sure Mar 22 05:14:27 nah dude just put obnoxious ads in your free app Mar 22 05:14:42 https://twitter.com/kotlin/status/710834104657420288 Mar 22 05:14:46 first comment :D Mar 22 05:15:29 gordon_ that was the "other" section, LOL Mar 22 05:16:07 https://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016#technology-most-popular-technologies Mar 22 05:16:21 yes I know Mar 22 05:16:25 that's why it's funny :D Mar 22 05:16:29 then after that it was "Most Popular Technologies - Other" which is like, noise :D Mar 22 05:17:07 https://twitter.com/thepracticaldev/status/707561057242447872 is it just me or does this now apply to Android too Mar 22 05:17:46 wabz: "you should use RxJS, convert the numbers to an observable sequence, and then reduce it into a result" Mar 22 05:17:48 this Mar 22 05:17:59 hah thats funny Mar 22 05:18:12 it's funny, because it's true Mar 22 05:18:12 hits too close to home Mar 22 05:18:25 I used to have a simple test to give candidates, "put the results of this webservice in a listview" Mar 22 05:18:32 rxjava is cool okay? Mar 22 05:18:51 I haven't changed the text of the test for years, but doing it has become so much more complex Mar 22 05:18:56 that was my test, sorta. They gave me a json file. Mar 22 05:19:30 wabz: how many libraries did they put in ? Mar 22 05:19:40 most people use 2 or 3 now Mar 22 05:19:52 the code ends up being concise, which is nice Mar 22 05:20:02 but I mean, for someone new to android it's a pretty daunting task Mar 22 05:20:26 * gordon_ remembers the asynctask... Mar 22 05:21:08 the last guy I hired used asynctask because he thought he wasn't allowed to use 3rd party libs Mar 22 05:21:18 he managed to make it not crash on rotation, so I hired him straight away Mar 22 05:21:50 g00s: https://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016#education-developer-occupation if I have master degree in CS and dont data science.. who am I ? Mar 22 05:22:02 wabz: haha Mar 22 05:22:07 wabz: Good for you. I would certainly hire right away someone who can write AsyncTask code that works decently well. Mar 22 05:22:33 If that person does well with AsyncTask, imagine what they'll do with Rx... Mar 22 05:22:50 hehe Mar 22 05:22:59 CedricBeust: add two numbers Mar 22 05:23:36 That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even AsyncTask may die. Mar 22 05:23:54 g00s: https://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016#technology-most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted *cough* 4th place *cough* Mar 22 05:23:59 practical developer is great Mar 22 05:24:35 gordon_ yeah, but i'm still wondering if its because Ruby : RoR :: Scala : Spark Mar 22 05:24:43 I need this shirt https://twitter.com/ThePracticalDev/status/711237584077381632 Mar 22 05:25:36 RustyShackleford: and this book https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/t31.0-8/12496141_1262237010456341_3917794817531048700_o.jpg Mar 22 05:25:48 hahah. that shirt is great. Mar 22 05:26:49 gordon_ dreaded: coffeescript - i wonder why they used that in Atom Mar 22 05:27:05 right? while they have scala.js ;) Mar 22 05:27:15 lol LAMP is dreaded ... Mar 22 05:27:29 any of you guys frequent #sqlite? Mar 22 05:27:39 dsardari: just ask Mar 22 05:27:56 wonder if its the L , A, M, or P Mar 22 05:28:27 g00s: it's a synonym to S U C K Mar 22 05:28:54 gordon_: lol. read my mind. Mar 22 05:28:56 CedricBeust: hang on are you beust@? Mar 22 05:29:12 wabz: Sounds like me, yes Mar 22 05:29:18 oh. I'm rnelson@ Mar 22 05:29:29 what is @ Mar 22 05:29:52 twitter Mar 22 05:29:57 nah email :p Mar 22 05:30:09 what's email ? Mar 22 05:30:19 something for old people ;( Mar 22 05:30:29 need to google that... Mar 22 05:32:06 is it me, or apple fans clap with less excitement nowadays ? Mar 22 05:33:13 gordon_ maybe, they are getting kind of boring Mar 22 05:33:26 i mean, new ipad yey new iphone yey Mar 22 05:33:31 well iphone SE seems like good move Mar 22 05:33:42 hope it doesnt stand for Suck Edition Mar 22 05:33:54 If I want to move all my network functions into a separate class. Should I simply add a java class? Or should I make it an interface? Mar 22 05:33:56 yeah, 4" i would have gotten one if $350 came with 32GB, not $400 with 16 Mar 22 05:34:11 g00s: I'm android guy, sorry ;) Mar 22 05:34:23 i'n not a fan of anything ;) Mar 22 05:34:41 brand loyalty is for suckers Mar 22 05:34:42 I'm not fan, I just prefer open source, than closed blob Mar 22 05:35:16 I could remove google apps and stay with f-droid Mar 22 05:36:00 i dont find any google or android apps very useful Mar 22 05:36:11 really Mar 22 05:36:13 iOS does have some killer apps Mar 22 05:36:18 like ? Mar 22 05:36:23 I think those are the only ones I think are useful Mar 22 05:36:45 gmail/inbox, music, drive, maps Mar 22 05:36:50 gordon_ garage band is nice Mar 22 05:36:54 keep Mar 22 05:37:15 yeah i use gmail, thats about it. keep is a toy, OneNote is better Mar 22 05:37:16 g00s: dont know garage band Mar 22 05:37:24 its really useful Mar 22 05:37:31 its a drum machine basically Mar 22 05:37:38 oh Mar 22 05:37:42 so useful Mar 22 05:37:48 I will use it everyday Mar 22 05:37:50 ;) Mar 22 05:38:00 lol not just a drum machine :D Mar 22 05:38:29 hi Mar 22 05:38:31 anyway, I thought you will tell me something more usefull Mar 22 05:38:34 Anyone out there? Mar 22 05:38:41 so we could start open source version :P Mar 22 05:38:53 gordon_ compare the top to android to iOS apps Mar 22 05:38:57 top 10 Mar 22 05:39:09 dont know top 10 for ios Mar 22 05:39:13 so how can I compare ? Mar 22 05:39:19 oh ok, lol Mar 22 05:39:24 nm Mar 22 05:39:32 I have ipod touch at home Mar 22 05:39:40 Bcadren hello hello, is there anybody in there ... Mar 22 05:39:52 but lack of back button seems unnatural Mar 22 05:40:10 i was hoping apple would go the microsoft way with things - merge desktop and mobile OS Mar 22 05:40:15 I should drop everything and buy x200 so I can have open source laptop Mar 22 05:40:24 still think MS has the right vision there, too bad Mar 22 05:40:24 install debian and write in emacs Mar 22 05:41:32 I programmed Android in Emacs, before Android Studio Mar 22 05:41:41 But not from Debian, from Ubuntu Mar 22 05:41:49 not hardcore enough Mar 22 05:41:50 kjeldahl did too .. Mar 22 05:41:57 RMS doesnt approve Mar 22 05:42:39 Debian isn't hardcore enough...Gentoo is more hardcore Mar 22 05:43:01 gordon_ yeah and emacs, pfft .. nano Mar 22 05:43:18 it's more about being 'clean' ;) Mar 22 05:43:40 If I ever figure out easy text justification on vi or emacs I'll stop using nano Mar 22 05:43:52 http://pastebin.com/tUCHe6ZV Mar 22 05:43:54 nano it's easy - load up, go to paragraph, ^J, that's it Mar 22 05:44:12 g00s: check out ensime ;) Mar 22 05:47:22 i've been using VS Code actually , pretty nice - a little faster than atom Mar 22 05:47:33 Anyone? Please Mar 22 05:47:50 one thing these electron based editors have over emacs / vi is you can draw anything you want on the canvas, its not just a text buffer Mar 22 05:47:51 Bcadren: ask question Mar 22 05:48:18 It was in the pastebin Mar 22 05:48:24 g00s: I wish people stop making electron apps Mar 22 05:48:28 so much ram wasted Mar 22 05:48:29 I just made extra comments with it Mar 22 05:48:33 is Slack an electron app ? Mar 22 05:48:34 also - laggy Mar 22 05:48:37 yes Mar 22 05:48:49 VS Code is pretty snappy to me Mar 22 05:48:50 or maybe not, just chromium Mar 22 05:48:56 and, i have 4G of ram so ... Mar 22 05:49:02 http://pastebin.com/tUCHe6ZV Mar 22 05:49:03 I have 16 Mar 22 05:50:41 Bcadren: wait a sec Mar 22 05:51:17 one of thigns I dont like much - selecting images from camera / gallery, integrating 3rd party login like facebook Mar 22 05:51:50 Bcadren: it's activity, right ? Mar 22 05:51:57 or fragment Mar 22 05:52:54 gordon_ fair point the whole definition is the two lines before it. (Intent) Mar 22 05:53:32 is that the issue; not reaching on activity result because a single Intent isn't considered an Activity? Mar 22 05:53:52 Bcadren: what's mActivity? Mar 22 05:53:53 I'm asking, since your onActivityResult isnt called so I thought you're inside fragment Mar 22 05:54:09 which will explain why it's not called Mar 22 05:54:51 also add super.onActivityResult(..) to method Mar 22 05:55:00 final Activity mActivity = UnityPlayer.currentActivity; Mar 22 05:55:18 (It refers to the game engine running that's trying to get the video link). Mar 22 05:55:33 would also add this to intent : intent.setAction(Intent.ACTION_GET_CONTENT); Mar 22 05:57:00 so "intent.setAction(Intent.ACTION_GET_CONTENT);" between line 5 and 6 on the paste? and super.onActivityResult where? Mar 22 05:57:16 to onActivityResult Mar 22 05:58:06 So overriding super.onActivityResult instead of just onActivityResult? Mar 22 05:59:17 OH I see Mar 22 05:59:23 I googled that. Mar 22 06:00:34 you need to call base method also Mar 22 06:00:41 so need to call super Mar 22 06:02:17 I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm generally a C# Programmer and was asked to handle the Unity (C#) app communicating with Android (Java) and...yea I've never done this language before or anything. Mar 22 06:07:22 that didn't appear to change anything. Mar 22 06:08:20 Bcadren: are you using fragment or not ? Mar 22 06:08:28 because I'm lost ;) Mar 22 06:09:13 I can show full code of that section if you like (PM though) because I'm feeling paranoid lol Mar 22 06:10:18 post the whole activity here Mar 22 06:10:25 someone will help Mar 22 06:13:56 Expires in 10 minutes: http://pastebin.com/n1kEsWUg Mar 22 06:17:51 Suppose I could switch to more toast popups instead of having Unity print it... Mar 22 06:18:14 Badren: what class are those methods in? Mar 22 06:19:56 The same one? (the name shouldn't be an issue) Mar 22 06:20:19 does it extend Fragment or Activity? Mar 22 06:20:22 or none? Mar 22 06:21:54 hi! Mar 22 06:21:57 extends UnityPlayerActivity Mar 22 06:22:20 (necessary for it to use some of those Unity-specific functions, I think). Mar 22 06:24:03 dsardari do I need the second function somewhere else? (seperate class file extending plain Activity or Fragment or something)? Mar 22 06:25:24 well, if UnityPlayer.currentActivity is a reference to the activity you're calling startActivityForResult, then it should work Mar 22 06:26:04 if it's referencing a different one, then that activity will get the event Mar 22 06:26:44 http://developer.android.com/intl/es/reference/android/app/Activity.html#startActivityForResult(android.content.Intent, int, android.os.Bundle) Mar 22 06:28:44 heading to bed. gl! Mar 22 06:30:23 Night. (I was looking for the source on that function to confirm, but you're gone now.) Mar 22 06:33:59 when compiling native code, is it possible to see the ARM instructions generated from c/c++ code? can the names of the function be also indicated in the assembly code? Mar 22 06:36:41 Bcadren: sorry, I' quite busy now Mar 22 06:36:56 did you manage it to work ? Mar 22 06:37:03 I'm trying to be I'm just...stuck here lol Mar 22 06:38:19 HunterD, saywhat Mar 22 06:44:14 I think I figured out the issue. The activity that's receiving the result (Object of Class UnityPlayerActivity) does not have an onActivityResult() built-in function to override. It's not getting called because the behavior to call it doesn't exist in UnityPlayerActivity object. There needs to be a seperate Object of normal Android Activity Class to receive it. Mar 22 06:56:34 pfn: I mean something like this: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs216/guides/asm_disassembly1.gif but for ndk code Mar 22 07:00:38 also, is GCC the only toolchain available for compiling ndk projects? Mar 22 07:07:22 Is there a way to pass a pointer to an Activity inbetween classes? Mar 22 07:10:20 a... pointer? Mar 22 07:10:48 Sorry I'm thinking like C++ Mar 22 07:11:25 Bcadren: in java everything is passed by reference Mar 22 07:11:41 so just pass the object and it's the pointer Mar 22 07:11:54 unless you're talking about strings or collections Mar 22 07:11:56 Yea but there's no Intent.AddExtra() overload to pass an activity. Mar 22 07:12:11 you can hold a static memeber is some manager Mar 22 07:12:25 Bundles have to pointers Mar 22 07:12:42 actually Mar 22 07:12:55 its passed by value Mar 22 07:13:00 not by reference Mar 22 07:13:03 :/ Mar 22 07:13:45 http://stackoverflow.com/a/40523/1056359 Mar 22 07:13:47 oh myyy Mar 22 07:15:45 well, copy constructors for all Mar 22 07:25:09 good thing java doesnt have those.. pointers Mar 22 07:25:24 Java totally does have pointers. Mar 22 07:26:21 hey Mar 22 07:27:52 Like values-v21, do we have to create one for every API level? Mar 22 07:28:05 values-v22 and values-v23? Mar 22 07:29:11 I'm a dope. Mar 22 07:41:10 arunl: no Mar 22 07:41:18 v21 will work for v21+ Mar 22 07:41:36 until it encounter higher v Mar 22 07:43:24 Ashiren: thanks Mar 22 07:44:36 if I wanted to call the action package.classx.actionx from the action package.classy.actiony; would I use intent.setAction(package.classx.actionx); ? Mar 22 08:00:10 so, why do people hate AsyncTasks? Mar 22 08:05:20 because they suck Mar 22 08:05:27 [solved] Mar 22 08:06:12 lol Mar 22 08:06:28 insufficient explanations, solve declined! Mar 22 08:06:45 the code seems bloated at least for beginner Mar 22 08:06:57 and when you work with threading, alternative solutions are better Mar 22 08:07:20 such as? Mar 22 08:07:29 i mean that there is this article http://simonvt.net/2014/04/17/asynctask-is-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad/ Mar 22 08:07:32 not to mention most examples provide anonymous or inner AsyncTask (non-static_ which could leak Mar 22 08:08:01 i.e. using executors and handlers for callbacks Mar 22 08:08:42 http://pastebin.com/Ep4k4Bww Mar 22 08:09:09 Bcadren: logcat? Mar 22 08:09:22 also, why are you holding a reference to mActivity? Mar 22 08:09:26 what is the context here? Mar 22 08:09:39 Doing UI stuff in the onPostExecute can cause leaks, right? Mar 22 08:10:11 not this Mar 22 08:10:23 pduin: the thought, I think, is that having the wrapper die before onPostExecture causes leaks Mar 22 08:10:30 *onPostExecute Mar 22 08:10:40 being AsyncTask and having reference to Activity which dies of i.e. change orientation is bad Mar 22 08:11:07 mActivity is the activity that called the activity that's calling that intent (where we need to end back up at after everything runs). Mar 22 08:11:14 Ashiren: well, BitmapWorker example has documentation about how to avoid this with WeakReference Mar 22 08:11:37 Bcadren: wut Mar 22 08:12:13 WeakReference sounds like expert stuff Mar 22 08:12:24 by then i will be expert in executors Mar 22 08:12:59 WeakReference is a normal way to do this Mar 22 08:13:22 Ashiren: http://developer.android.com/training/displaying-bitmaps/process-bitmap.html Mar 22 08:13:28 I'm going to try something else one sec Mar 22 08:13:42 thepoosh: i know Mar 22 08:13:51 the thing is bad examples Mar 22 08:14:00 ? Mar 22 08:14:08 and first thing newbies try with backround threads is using asynctask Mar 22 08:14:20 because of implicit reference and whatnot Mar 22 08:14:42 in your earlier link there is alternative mentioned Mar 22 08:15:19 that is one of the only official example of AsyncTasks Mar 22 08:15:19 otto, which i know nothing about Mar 22 08:15:25 on the documentation Mar 22 08:15:29 Is there any kind of support for 9-slicing of vector assets/drawables? Mar 22 08:15:37 Ashiren: otto is the father of RxAndroid Mar 22 08:16:25 as i see AsyncTask - they arent "bad". just better solutions exists Mar 22 08:16:33 and more foolproof Mar 22 08:26:50 can the android experimental plugin be set to output verbose information of the gcc commands? Mar 22 08:31:20 how Mar 22 08:31:25 use startActivityForResult Mar 22 08:31:30 in static function? Mar 22 08:32:05 static? Mar 22 08:32:13 that's a instance method Mar 22 08:32:25 all you need is context Mar 22 08:32:26 I know Mar 22 08:32:42 (or love) Mar 22 08:33:14 public static void name () { blah blah blah startActivityForResult(activity, int);} ...I want it to go to the onActivityResult in the same class. Mar 22 08:33:56 it says I can't use startActivityForResult in a static function, but the function needs to be static in order to be accessed from where it needs to be accessed from. Mar 22 08:34:24 ...I really should take a break I'm deeloping the text equivalent for slurred speech out of fatique. Mar 22 08:35:30 Ashiren you mean like ClassName.startActivityForResult()? Mar 22 08:35:43 read some tutorials. you need to understand bigger picture of that Mar 22 08:36:34 "Cannot make a static reference to a non-static function." Mar 22 08:39:39 If you like to do it that way, you need to pass in an Activity reference to the static function Mar 22 08:39:49 Ashiren that's just the thing really; Unity's android package doesn't even have a library reference. All I know is what I get from error messages and it tells me it can only call Static functions from the internal game engine code...so I need a static function to wait for result that's all there is to it. Mar 22 08:40:03 You can call startActivityForResult from that Activity reference Mar 22 08:40:54 And it can't actually be the activity I want to end at (oddly enough) since the UnityActivity class doesn't get onActivityResult calls, it needs to be the same class. Mar 22 08:41:23 Hi, I wrote some helper classes to fix Volley's listeners context leak [https://dpaste.de/U9ND]. It works fine, the context doesn't leak anymore but sometimes even when the activity is open, listeners are GCed. How do you guys use volley? Mar 22 08:42:18 hello, im trying to implement new gcm registration but when i start service to register my app, service is not invoked. any help would be appreciated. http://paste.ubuntu.com/15470826/ Mar 22 08:42:36 dammit I'm getting confused. I NEEDS to be like this class instead of actually the inside Activity Mar 22 08:42:44 Hi, I work in tech support for a smartphone manufacturer who keeps changing the "settings tree" layout on almost every device and doesnt support me with those devices. So I would like to create an App, which includes all the "settings lists" in one app. I hope its clear where I want to go. Is there a way to do that by code like pseudo "get List of Settings" or "open settings and get list entries"? So that I can start that app on a Mar 22 08:42:44 device, and copy that list? Mar 22 08:44:45 I think I have to go back to what I was failing at earlier. Have one class with a static function call a different class completley Mar 22 08:45:01 I haven't looked inside a rom yet, (could make the reverse engeneering part legal through the manufacturer), would it be easy to copy and use the xml files there? Mar 22 08:50:08 is it possible to use Android Studio's debugging feature (for ndk) using a prebuilt .so (with dysm file also, and debug mode build) ? Mar 22 08:50:21 Good morning you all. Mar 22 08:50:39 * I have the sources and a built system already in place, I want to see if I can skip the build using Gradle (experimental plugin) Mar 22 08:50:48 *build system Mar 22 08:51:29 How do I tell intent.SetAction(); to access a function in another class? Mar 22 08:53:17 oh my god, this app is even worse than I though Mar 22 08:53:19 t Mar 22 08:53:44 it's looping somewhere waiting to show a notification Mar 22 08:53:58 spamming my logcat about scheduled notification Mar 22 08:55:09 now android killed it Mar 22 08:55:16 I'm working on an Android compass, but my compass is not moving smoothly. Does anyone know a good compass solution with the latest api? Or a link to a project hosted on github I can borrow some code from it? Mar 22 09:00:01 oh god... I looked at the code where it looped and it seems like it set a new alarm in alarmmanager for each iteration Mar 22 09:00:10 about the experimental plugin, can I set it to print verbose info about the gcc commands executed? Mar 22 09:00:10