**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 23 02:59:59 2016 Mar 23 03:04:05 hey guys Mar 23 03:05:03 I'm building a multiplayer game, and I need some tips on how to authenticate users Mar 23 03:05:24 I'm going to use socket.io as the transport protocol Mar 23 03:06:29 The currently design I have in mind is a cookie-type setup, where I log the user in at the start of the app, give them a token, and that token is passed for every action that the user perform Mar 23 03:06:34 how is that design? Mar 23 03:11:38 By login when the app starts don't store the users password Mar 23 03:12:10 when you get a token query the server if the token is still valid, if not ask user again for password Mar 23 03:17:06 Please help here: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/139643/google-now-not-speaking-or-executing-comand Mar 23 03:23:28 wrong channel Mar 23 03:41:00 is putting strings directly into my java source really that bad? Mar 23 03:41:12 suppose I will never support another language or locale? Mar 23 03:41:32 Not really Mar 23 03:42:09 it seems like string resources get so unorganized Mar 23 03:44:32 refactorial, so in other words...it's a good design? Mar 23 03:46:49 sector_0: for a game it will be ok, use encryption and etc.. never store users password and etc.. follow security practices and you'll be fine Mar 23 03:47:25 refactorial, cool Mar 23 03:49:00 Same as it ever was. Mar 23 03:49:30 Just looking for the library reference page about the new flashlight functionality in API 23 Mar 23 03:52:16 Why does that d.android.com link lead to the spanish version of the docs? I never told Android I wanted any specific language I'm confused. Mar 23 03:54:03 I want to use rxjava to repeat this network call every 20 seconds or so Mar 23 03:54:28 ideally only when the app is focused Mar 23 04:00:07 RustyShackleford it might be easier to just spin a thread looping and sleeping every 20 seconds doing the network request. And shut downn the thread on Activity.onPause, restart on onStart. Mar 23 04:00:39 already have rxjava doing the network calls and database persistence Mar 23 04:00:45 pretty neat Mar 23 04:01:06 I'm finding a flash_mode_torch setting...which is cool, but not what I'm looking for. Mar 23 04:04:36 repeatWhen? Mar 23 04:05:37 RustyShackleford: maybe take a look at the first example here for polling: http://orbyt.github.io/RxCookbook/ Mar 23 04:07:32 still not sure if rxjava is helping or hurting this project Mar 23 04:08:15 sqlbrite and rx are a neat combo. I hardly have to deal with Cursor objects at all Mar 23 04:11:43 I'm writing something specifically for Android Marshmellow and newer and I don't have a test device...anyone have a new phone and willing to try something in an hour or so? (it'll be an unsigned .apk for manual install). [Mine's Ice Cream Sandwich, hah] Mar 23 04:11:58 bcadren: genymotion Mar 23 04:12:14 unless you really need the hardware (ADA or something like that) Mar 23 04:12:32 I never dev on my phone anymore Mar 23 04:13:14 It's specifically for one of the new hardware API's (accessing the flashlight funciton) Mar 23 04:16:44 What's the import for collections? Arrays? Mar 23 04:18:28 ALT+ENTER in android studio will auto import them for you Mar 23 04:18:37 if not check your spelling Mar 23 04:35:53 hey all. I'm pretty new to android dev and i'm struggling to write unit tests against some model classes i have. my models are ORM members, and unit tests require Context, however getting the right context has proven difficult. `AndroidTestCase` yields null when `this.getContext()` is called. I also tried using `InstrumentationRegistry.getContext();`, but `getApplicationContext();` is eventually called on _that too_, which is Mar 23 04:35:53 `null`. The ORM needs a Context because it uses SQLite under the hood, which requires it Mar 23 04:41:02 cdargine: i've used roboelectric in a project to run the unit tests in jvm. seems to work pretty well if you want to go that route. Mar 23 04:43:15 @dsardari, i've seen/heard of it, but i also figured that it must be such a common thing (testing Models) that i could probably get away with a lighter, ready-to-go, out-of-the-box solution with the android toolkit Mar 23 04:43:28 but i'll check it out regardless Mar 23 04:45:12 Anyone illuminate this for me? Mar 23 04:45:13 http://pastebin.com/fUGj5drQ Mar 23 04:46:04 we've got older tests that basically just extend AndroidTestCase and call "getContext" in the "setup" override. they work i'm pretty certain. Mar 23 04:47:43 if they are open-source i'd love to take a peek! i'm going bald pulling my hair out over here :) Mar 23 04:51:45 sorry :( Mar 23 05:12:05 how can I replace a retrofit network call with a json/xml response? Mar 23 05:12:18 er I mean like a file saved in the project. Mar 23 05:12:50 serialize to string or xml ? Mar 23 05:12:54 or json Mar 23 05:14:52 string constant would work I suppose Mar 23 05:15:10 I dunno I want to run it through my xml parsing code Mar 23 05:16:05 ideally my retrofit calls would return the contents of these files as if I had receieve it as a response Mar 23 05:17:02 The proxy is an interface, implement it yourself Mar 23 05:17:42 any google search terms or class names I should look at? Mar 23 05:20:12 eh Mar 23 05:20:24 RustyShackleford: https://square.github.io/retrofit/ Mar 23 05:20:30 check converters Mar 23 05:29:01 i'm using simplexml Mar 23 05:29:25 now I just want to make a request in postman, copy and paste it to a file Mar 23 05:29:48 then run it through my retrofit calls so I can use static data for unit tests Mar 23 05:29:57 integration tests, whatever Mar 23 05:31:54 if I put a return statement in the middle of a loop, it breaks the loop and immediately returns the value yes? Mar 23 05:37:38 @bcardren yeah if you do return value; Mar 23 05:46:04 Anyone tried this? Mar 23 05:46:09 http://calaba.sh/ whoops Mar 23 05:46:19 well Mar 23 05:48:57 I'm having a suprisingly hard time googling this Mar 23 05:49:35 I just want to mock out the servers/network. I do want to test my xml serialization Mar 23 05:49:53 there must be a way to record a server's response and then use it in unit tests Mar 23 05:50:06 Are you using your own xml serialization? Mar 23 05:51:09 retrofit and simplexml converters Mar 23 05:51:49 RustyShackleford: I gave you an answer above, what is wrong with it? Mar 23 05:52:15 Rusty you don't need to test your xml parsing. If you want to mock your network, I'd suggest this pattern: http://pastebin.com/raw/gNXqQEy9 Mar 23 05:52:35 xml parsing is already testing in the simplexml library. Mar 23 05:52:59 what CedricBeust is suggesting is *the* way to go Mar 23 05:54:18 CedricBeust: I guess the problem is that I did not understand what you meant Mar 23 05:54:25 explodes: that is so rediculously simple Mar 23 05:54:35 awesome Mar 23 05:55:15 The problem you'll run into is how you obtain your instance of AppService. Whether it was created by Retrofit's adapter factory, or by you doing "new MockAppService()" - Mar 23 05:56:03 ah crap its late and I haven't written any code Mar 23 05:57:08 Dependency Injection can help out here. If you don't want to mess with the boilerplate of all of that (which you should ;) you can have a function that is really crappy like this: http://pastebin.com/raw/24LyS0Tp Mar 23 05:59:03 I tried using some dagger Mar 23 05:59:22 :+1: emoji Mar 23 05:59:24 ended up implementing it myself for the database anyway Mar 23 05:59:35 dagger is wierd Mar 23 05:59:36 :-1: emoji Mar 23 05:59:48 lol Mar 23 06:19:27 You know since I'm devving on it I can tell you that this phone has 1.5 gigs available on the main device and 3.7 on the card...yet it's complaining that it's close to full I don't...what? Mar 23 06:37:28 explodes: the advantage I see of passing a file trhough my xml serialization code is that it's really easy to load different responses Mar 23 06:37:57 and then my model objects are created Mar 23 06:38:38 i'm not testing my serialization code Mar 23 06:41:04 I want to use that serialized data in my tests Mar 23 06:46:34 RustyShackleford: seems like you're doing something terrible wrong ;) Mar 23 06:46:47 wanna look at my repo? Mar 23 06:46:54 if you've got nothing better to do Mar 23 06:57:28 I'm at work Mar 23 07:00:46 I have created a project skelleton to act like a template for specific project types, but now do I have to rename the package name and project name and stuff manually each time ? Mar 23 07:00:47 gordon_: so? Mar 23 07:00:54 no its cool, I didn't realize Mar 23 07:01:59 make it an aar? Mar 23 07:39:07 Has anyone seen lib for "countdown timer button", not sure how it's called. Button that has default action that is executed after x amount of time : cancel(3)..cancel(2)..cancel(1) Mar 23 07:48:18 vegetabl_, why adding a lib for this? just do it yourself ;_) Mar 23 07:48:39 So you dont have to add opensource licence (probably) and you'll learn more Mar 23 07:51:03 sure. why using gson, retrofit, picassa/glide - lets make everything by ourselves Mar 23 07:52:41 lol Mar 23 07:53:05 y do we need to reinvent the wheel Mar 23 07:53:14 altough that button seems easy to do Mar 23 07:53:52 when we have good stack of libraries Mar 23 07:54:30 It depends what you are going to do, a "timer button" is not really something i would add a dependency for. Mar 23 07:54:41 its probably 10 lines of code Mar 23 07:54:50 Thats why we see apps with 50MB Mar 23 07:55:16 if you're using rx already, it's pretty much a one-liner Mar 23 07:55:56 something like Observable.interval(1, TimeUnit.SECONDS).take(4).doOnComplete(() -> { button.hide(); ... }).subscribe(i -> { button.setText("Cancel (" + (4-i) +")"); });, although that doesn't include support for orientation changes. not much longer doing it manually though. Mar 23 07:59:34 shit.. i think time to learn Rx Mar 23 07:59:59 ktwo, I already am, but why not search for some good lib first. Was hoping fore something pretty with iphone like countdown animation. Times when I want to recreate everything are long gone. Mar 23 08:02:17 I dont know, i think its kinda an attitude, I personanlly first like to do thinks myself to keep my app clean and slim and just for the sake of learning, instead of getting one blackbox after the other Mar 23 08:02:23 and just learn how to add dependencies Mar 23 08:02:35 Only when i see that doing it is too hard or cumbersome i resort to libs Mar 23 08:04:03 try https://android-arsenal.com/search?q=countdown Mar 23 08:04:09 ktwo, work as a software engineer for 10y and then come back to this question. If there is something good I can use and save time.. I'm def going for it Mar 23 08:04:34 vegetabl_, already did and doing ;) Mar 23 08:05:44 And countdown is easy, I need some good animations with it thou. Client wants "just like on iPhone" x_x Mar 23 08:06:09 why doesnt he buy iphone then Mar 23 08:06:24 he did Mar 23 08:09:14 [solved] Mar 23 08:09:18 next! Mar 23 08:09:55 Ashiren: my wife won't make me pancakes! what should I do? Mar 23 08:10:05 get new one Mar 23 08:15:41 return her, clear case of DOA ^^ Mar 23 08:18:35 anyone familiar with android's video processising capabilities? Mar 23 08:19:08 I need to load huge video and crop only 30 seconds of it Mar 23 08:19:38 not huge exaclty, just any video Mar 23 08:20:51 well - hardware dependend obviously if you got a fast one i dont see a problem Mar 23 08:22:08 yeah, but question is - how to trim video? :) Mar 23 08:22:10 see - thats a case where a library for doing it might make sense ;-) Mar 23 08:22:24 ffmpeg maybe? Mar 23 08:22:35 i was afraid of that ) Mar 23 08:23:32 I was expection to find some builtin functionality to work with video Mar 23 08:24:06 proably there is depending on the codecs you are using Mar 23 08:24:30 look for MediaCodec Mar 23 08:24:54 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20468211/use-mediacodec-and-mediaextractor-to-decode-and-code-video# Mar 23 08:25:56 vigilancer, you don't have magical API supporting video editing for all possible video formats Mar 23 08:25:58 but basics are there. Mar 23 08:26:05 And "cropping".... isn't as easy as it looks :P Mar 23 08:26:26 But I guess you could use MediaMuxer if you don't want to compile stripped down ffmpeg Mar 23 08:28:06 Mavrik: well, our ios guy said it has api for such task. yeah, I know kinda lame excuse to hope to find something similar in android :) also Gallery2 can do trimming with action "com.android.camera.action.TRIM" Mar 23 08:28:25 I did tell you: mediamuxer Mar 23 08:28:40 It's analougous to iOS VideoToolbox method that iOS "guy" is talking about. Mar 23 08:28:44 It also has same limited format support. Mar 23 08:28:49 ah, sorry, missed. will take a look Mar 23 09:00:16 Can someone give me an example of how they use Volley so it doesn't cause activity leak? Mar 23 09:27:06 Mavrik: ah, thanks, that will do. Gallery2 sources proved useful also Mar 23 09:38:51 oh fun, our test APK just hit 65k limit Mar 23 09:38:57 because espresso pulls in ALL THE GUAVA Mar 23 09:45:16 Mavrik: happens Mar 23 09:45:42 nyoro~n Mar 23 09:46:03 65k methods ought to be enough for anybody Mar 23 09:46:39 said nobody never Mar 23 09:47:07 well, android developers did say that didnt they Mar 23 09:47:15 no idea Mar 23 09:47:26 seems fishy Mar 23 09:49:47 related: http://developer.android.com/tools/building/multidex.html Mar 23 10:18:40 Where does android get the text it shows on the top of app when you click recent apps button. Mar 23 10:20:56 from android:label in manifest Mar 23 10:26:06 Why can't I start an activity like this? http://pastebin.com/T3r3wv1p it can't resolve the constructor. Mar 23 10:31:23 Oh is it the "this" ? Might I use "Intent intent = new Intent(MainActivity.this, LoadingActivity.class);" instead? Mar 23 10:32:46 yes Mar 23 10:33:03 good , thanks Mar 23 10:39:02 do you guys work with photoshop when you receive stuff from designer Mar 23 10:39:19 or do you receive the assets all extracted and already sized appropriately? Mar 23 10:39:36 Designers are the bane of my existance Mar 23 10:40:40 jvrodrigues: depends on designer really. it's extra work designer too. so you have to say what you need Mar 23 10:41:06 its extra work? Mar 23 10:41:35 delivering a photoshop file is the same as me delivering my work in a zip file with all the code Mar 23 10:41:41 do you expect them to resize and put graphics properly into drawable-*dpi Mar 23 10:41:47 yeah, you need to extract it, resize or whatever. event with Assets Generator in Photoshop Mar 23 10:41:51 and expect the customer to know how to build the apk Mar 23 10:42:09 but with vector compat it's less extra work, so I do it myself Mar 23 10:42:58 Ashiren: I do, ofc Mar 23 10:43:11 jvrodrigues: you are not customer, you and designer are part of team. or suppose to be :) Mar 23 10:43:37 if my company hires a freelance designer, then I am, in fact, a customer Mar 23 10:44:00 so charge extra from company for dealing with psd, big deal Mar 23 10:44:41 or provide document to your manager what kind of resources do you expect to do your job Mar 23 10:47:03 jvrodrigues: but honestly, try VectorCompat, it's such a timesaver in context of assets managment Mar 23 10:48:37 can you link me to that? Mar 23 11:11:57 hey Mar 23 11:12:17 my CursorAdapter.swapCursor doesn't seem to work Mar 23 11:12:58 (CursorAdapter <- some instance of CursorAdapter) Mar 23 11:45:09 Hello peoples. Mar 23 11:51:39 How is the USB audio support on Android ? Mar 23 12:22:42 Hi, I want to create a search widget like in Play Store app. How do I proceed? Mar 23 12:23:30 Is it a toolbar whose look has been modified or a composite view made and put in framelayout? Mar 23 12:24:03 take a look in android monitor's hierarchyviewer Mar 23 12:24:06 :P Mar 23 12:26:36 hey guys Mar 23 12:26:42 how do I use ListActivity? Mar 23 12:27:37 I have a ListView element and a class that extends ListActivity Mar 23 12:27:51 Zharf: I did and hierarchyviewer doesn't say if the widget particularly uses toolbar or a simple relativelayout Mar 23 12:28:02 but I don't know how does it "connect" to the class Mar 23 12:28:28 I also used UIAutomator to check the UI elements, however it also gives a list of base ui classes (like relativelayout and linearlayout) Mar 23 12:28:58 xJeremyCx, listactivity is glue that looks for a ListView with android:id/list from the layout Mar 23 12:29:12 frankly I wouldn't bother using it, it's a thing of the past Mar 23 12:29:18 learn to use recyclerview instead Mar 23 12:29:51 thanks Mar 23 12:56:32 The preview phone showing when designing in the xml file isn't very relevant? It's shows nothing correctly to what I'm seeing on my real device.. Mar 23 13:01:00 hi, i've been wondering Mar 23 13:01:12 can i add in app purchase later after deploying a free app? Mar 23 13:03:53 rkb: just push a new version to market with iap implemented Mar 23 13:04:18 Bernzel_, the preview most often works like I want it to show on the phone, for me Mar 23 13:04:41 Zharf: hm okey. Must be something seriously wrong with my layout Mar 23 13:05:24 some components make it hard to trust the preview Mar 23 13:05:35 and some devices are just broken :p Mar 23 13:12:16 @bernzel, ok thanks Mar 23 13:18:21 hithere Mar 23 13:18:35 I would like to achieve visible title on smaller display within settings. Something similar to what can be seen on larger display http://snag.gy/X0QXs.jpg (red circle). On smaller display it looks like this http://snag.gy/yqJKt.jpg (user can easily loose context). Mar 23 13:18:43 Way the settings are integrated can be seen here https://github.com/sonavolob/ABIconTest . This problem appeared adding Toolbar instead of old ActionBar. Mar 23 13:18:49 Iam still searching for solution (as it seems to be, I not the only one with such problem). Unluckily none of them work for me. Among those found solutions were http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6831325/custom-title-of-preferenceactivity-problem , http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4921825/set-custom-title-bar-in-preferenceacivity/18191443#18191443 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30139548/how-to-add-toolbar-in-preferenceactivity Mar 23 13:18:55 Hi all, anyone know if its possible to have my application select a specific keyboard to use. For example if i make a soft keyboard layout, can i force the device to use that layout in my app, or do keyboards have to be seperate apps Mar 23 13:19:51 question is - are you using Preferences similar way I do - if yes - how do you add Title to Visible preference? Mar 23 13:23:13 * Zharf never used preferenceactivity Mar 23 13:23:22 but the solution in the last link looks good to me Mar 23 13:24:22 What the hell is this :D http://abload.de/img/astrot6s1d.png Mar 23 13:24:58 ktwo: saw that popping up today as well Mar 23 13:25:04 easter? Mar 23 13:25:18 april fool it says but its 23.3 :D Mar 23 13:25:22 No, if you click it you will be redirected to a google search on April Fools Mar 23 13:25:31 aha Mar 23 13:25:41 seems like a poor april fool Mar 23 13:25:53 on the other hand I don't think I've ever seen or heard of one that wasn't Mar 23 13:25:55 They are probably preparing for an April Fool's joke Mar 23 13:26:06 but then I'm a spoilsport Mar 23 13:26:29 I haven't looked at my app ratings in years Mar 23 13:26:30 :p Mar 23 13:26:33 funny it says 6 "planets" when there are shuttles^^ Mar 23 13:27:03 apparently I have the same Mar 23 13:28:11 I haven't looked at my app reviews in years because 98% of them are in russian and the google's translations are terrible :p Mar 23 13:28:18 I have no idea why there's so many russian users Mar 23 13:29:05 I want to mock out my network calls Mar 23 13:29:09 instead of going through the network, I want to use a response that I've saved to a file Mar 23 13:29:15 run the xml through the retrofit converters, then use the data in my tests Mar 23 13:29:20 mostly because it seems easier than having to instantite my model classes manually Mar 23 13:29:48 write an okhttp interceptor to do it Mar 23 13:29:49 ? Mar 23 13:30:01 what is your app for? maybe its popular in russia :P Mar 23 13:30:08 it's a music player Mar 23 13:30:42 Zharf: might work. Would you know of an example somewhere on github maybe? Mar 23 13:31:02 Hello Mar 23 13:31:11 https://github.com/square/okhttp/wiki/Interceptors Mar 23 13:31:30 I want to ask how can I force stop a intentservice from my activity Mar 23 13:34:25 RustyShackleford, application level interceptor should do, just build your Response and return it without calling Chain.proceed Mar 23 13:38:50 Zharf: this goes in my application code? Mar 23 13:38:56 yep Mar 23 13:38:58 or is this something I can do in the unit test project Mar 23 13:39:20 well, you just need some way to inject that in the interceptors list Mar 23 13:39:56 should be possible to write something that's only there in test builds Mar 23 13:41:20 also you need retrofit > 1.8 Mar 23 13:41:31 using 2.0 Mar 23 13:41:35 alright Mar 23 13:41:41 ahh crap I have to go to work Mar 23 13:41:47 :) Mar 23 13:41:48 I'll never get this side project done Mar 23 13:47:22 Zharf: http://pastebin.com/A1R8ttuF Mar 23 13:47:39 here's my service. I'm still failing to see how to use the interceptor Mar 23 13:47:54 I'm trying to write a class for setting values with SharedPreferences , but I can't reach "getSharedPreferences" without implementing it in an activity as it seems? What does my class have to extend/implement for this? Mar 23 13:49:18 RustyShackleford, write an interceptor like you have there but instead of chain.proceed(request), check what the request endpoint is and load data based on that and return a Response from it Mar 23 13:49:56 well what confuses me is that the return value is retrofit.create(TrainTrackerService.class) Mar 23 13:50:13 why does that confuse you? Mar 23 13:51:18 good question Mar 23 13:51:24 don't worry about that, you need to inject the interceptor in the OkHttpClient.Builder Mar 23 13:51:52 well I have a response recorded. I'm failing to see where I can inject the xml content of my recorded request Mar 23 13:52:03 er, response not request Mar 23 13:52:42 that's what the interceptor (that you need to write) would do :) Mar 23 13:54:51 this andoid studio installer isn't going to install any weird browser toolbars or "clean up" utils on my system is it? Because I'm just clicking through it Mar 23 13:56:37 @bernzel hi, what do you mean by new version? Mar 23 13:56:48 RustyShackleford, you could probably write some dummy interceptor (in a separate class, not inner class) that you can add to the interceptors list in the builder and then provide a mocking alternative for test flavour builds in gradle Mar 23 13:56:52 RustyShackleford, or something Mar 23 13:58:27 if i create a free app, and later i implement iap Mar 23 13:59:30 do i need to create another application and upload the updated apk or Mar 23 13:59:51 just upload a new apk on old free listing? Mar 23 14:00:07 rkb, you'd update your application with a version that has IAP implemented, yes Mar 23 14:00:50 thanks for the advice Zharf Mar 23 14:00:58 I have to go unfortunately. Have a good one Mar 23 14:01:03 is there any documentation from google, cause i need to present it to my team and boss Mar 23 14:01:32 RustyShackleford, later Mar 23 14:02:06 rkb, http://developer.android.com/google/play/billing/index.html Mar 23 14:02:54 i already presented that by the way Mar 23 14:03:07 rkb: read that link Zharf gave you thoroughly as it's important to do it right from the beginning, considering people are going to spend their own money Mar 23 14:03:27 is it in "Any application that you.." line Mar 23 14:04:07 ohh, noted Mar 23 14:06:12 Zharf: do you know of any examples where you build a custom Response? Mar 23 14:06:46 also will I need to write like a DebugTrainTrackerService? Mar 23 14:06:58 not seeing how I can inject the interceptor Mar 23 14:07:02 lol I said I was leaving Mar 23 14:07:52 Here's an example of what I'm trying to do: http://pastebin.com/F9hBjWdH but as I said, I can't reach that "getSharedPreferences" in this class. I suppose I need to extend some interface or something? Mar 23 14:09:00 RustyShackleford, let's talk when you have time again Mar 23 14:09:21 my hands kinda hurt so I don't really feel like typing right now -.- Mar 23 14:09:27 hah fair enough Mar 23 14:09:32 okay. going to work then Mar 23 14:09:36 Android is based in C# or something? That code snippet of Bernzel_'s looks to me like C# Mar 23 14:09:49 :E Mar 23 14:09:54 java Mar 23 14:10:52 Hello Mar 23 14:10:55 I want to ask how can I force stop a intentservice from my activity Mar 23 14:17:56 can I extend Application in order to build this class? Or what sort of affect does it have? Mar 23 14:19:09 Bernzel_, huh? Mar 23 14:19:39 Zharf: http://pastebin.com/5YrWYT92 like that Mar 23 14:20:21 I would then reference that class through out my application to set/get values Mar 23 14:21:39 read the java doc for that class :) its being explained Mar 23 14:22:20 Bernzel_, you need to set the classname in androidmanifest for it to be instantiated with the application itself Mar 23 14:23:24 rkb, http://developer.android.com/distribute/tools/launch-checklist.html#decide-price if you're looking for confirmation that you can sell stuff in free apps Mar 23 14:24:29 any reason for using clang++ over g++ for android dev? Mar 23 14:25:00 Zharf: yeah. But is it the right way to go at all, extending Application for a class who's only function is to set values for SharedPreferences. I'm just trying to have it organized and not setting hardcoded values along my Activites. Mar 23 14:25:08 puffybuf, not sure nowadays, clang came up with better error messages and some code analysisbut g++ might've caught up Mar 23 14:26:01 Bernzel_, if context is available where you're accessing it from then you could just write a simple helper class Mar 23 14:26:14 or possibly a singleton if you need state in it Mar 23 14:26:45 not everything that compiles on g++ compiles on clang++ Mar 23 14:26:56 arguably that's the fault of the author of said code, but... Mar 23 14:27:16 I have a SettingsUtil class that has some static setter methods for things and each method takes context as a parameter Mar 23 14:27:23 my program is quite complex opengl and uses some libraries, to my surprise it compiled with clang Mar 23 14:27:35 Zharf: this will be a daft question but, how do I know if Context is available? Mar 23 14:27:45 puffybuf I've never experienced it with code I'ver personally written, but it happens with 3rd party libs and code all the time Mar 23 14:28:47 OMG why give me an outdated version of the dev studio to download? Now I'm sitting waiting for updates to finish before I can do anything Mar 23 14:29:58 I'm using openal for sound, which had a problem compiling on clang but I patched it Mar 23 14:31:13 Bernzel_, sometimes you might want to call it from some place where getting a context would be ... inconvenient at least Mar 23 14:31:24 I personally don't like to throw around contexts everywhere :p Mar 23 14:32:18 I see, so just extending Application would cause less issues in the long run Mar 23 14:34:08 hi Zharf, thanks for your answer Mar 23 14:34:12 even with Application you'd need to use a static instance variable in the class to make it accessible without context Mar 23 14:34:29 i think that last link give a light Mar 23 14:35:07 rkb, http://developer.android.com/training/in-app-billing/preparing-iab-app.html also says "Depending on whether you are creating a new application or modifying an existing application, follow the instructions below to add the In-app Billing Library to your project." Mar 23 14:36:04 Bernzel_, using Application for it feels dirty though :p Mar 23 14:36:34 Application is easily bloated, I think... there's usually better places for things Mar 23 14:36:38 well, i think, my boss has a thinking that there is a free, paid, and in-app purchase app Mar 23 14:36:46 rkb, ah Mar 23 14:36:56 and need a definite answer, since this is our first app :D Mar 23 14:36:56 rkb, yeah the second link should clarify that Mar 23 14:37:32 the only thing you can't do with a free app, is turn it into a paid app Mar 23 14:38:09 oh, ok nice to know Mar 23 14:40:42 it's night here, i need to go home first Mar 23 14:40:44 bye Mar 23 14:40:57 Zharf: something like this then perhaps? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19612993/writing-singleton-class-to-manage-android-sharedpreferences The accepted answer Mar 23 15:03:30 I watched some of the talks by Yigit Boyar from Google talking about how a messaging app should have two threads. One local execution for db entries, and another execution for doing the network requests. I do my network requests in a service, but how would I create a local execution to have db inserts? Mar 23 15:04:10 sorry, not two "threads", but it should be doing two forms of execution when "sending" messages, one task that writes locally, and another task that syncs up with the server. Mar 23 15:07:17 Bernzel_, that's pretty much what I do, yes Mar 23 15:07:56 splendid Zharf , I'll give it a go Mar 23 15:10:33 I guess my main question is... if I start a thread that has the sole purpose of doing database inserts, should I stop the thread when it's done working? or should I leave the thread open to accept work? Mar 23 15:11:49 if you expect more work to be done shortly, no point in rolling out a new thread, just sleep until there's more work to be done Mar 23 15:11:53 imo Mar 23 15:12:11 but that implies external life management Mar 23 15:12:36 if you don't want to, or can't, manage the thread life from outside the thread then it should stop when it's out of things to do Mar 23 15:14:15 Zharf: I want to make sure the inserts are done in order as well. Mar 23 15:14:34 eghdk, blockinqueue Mar 23 15:14:48 Is that a type of thread or something? Mar 23 15:16:04 it's just a queue that I like to use to give work orders for my working threads Mar 23 15:16:09 http://developer.android.com/reference/java/util/concurrent/BlockingQueue.html Mar 23 15:17:07 it'll be emptied in sequential order, no need to worry about things getting out of order Mar 23 15:17:33 or in the order that things were added of course Mar 23 15:17:54 the take() part is the part which allows the thread to sleep while there's no work to be done Mar 23 15:18:13 Okay. I'll look into it. My main issue is, that I think I want the thread to stay alive so I don't keep one for each insertion Zharf Mar 23 15:18:33 you should keep the insertions in one thread Mar 23 15:19:11 if you insert from multiple threads, you'll run the risk of doing things out of order Mar 23 15:19:59 I have a relative layout with the button at the bottom having alignparentbottom true and in the layout have a edittext and the bottom button is coming in top of it ? Mar 23 15:20:31 how to fix? Mar 23 15:26:47 rathodvikas10, depends, possibly change the whole layout into something else :) Mar 23 15:29:29 Zharf: Can I just keep the thread open? Mar 23 15:29:39 eghdk, yes Mar 23 15:30:07 So a thread starts, does its job, and dies. How do I keep it open? Mar 23 15:30:19 wait on something Mar 23 15:30:38 (like blockingqueue) Mar 23 15:31:26 while (isRunning) { Job job = jobQueue.take(); /* do job */ } Mar 23 15:31:28 or something Mar 23 15:32:50 hey guys. Im gonna to create a ListView like this http://prnt.sc/aiz0j4 . Can anyone give me some ideas? Mar 23 15:35:31 Oh Yay, volte finally enabled Mar 23 15:36:36 @Zharf Can you suggest any other alternative for this layout http://pastebin.com/wZaL2tM0 Mar 23 15:38:25 removed? Mar 23 15:44:52 Zharf: Gotcha. SO the Thread uses BlockQueue. Will give it a shot. Mar 23 15:45:17 eghdk, your views are declared in the wrong order? Mar 23 15:46:11 Also, LinearLayout would be better no? Mar 23 15:49:53 Hi. Is there a library that provides an Optional type, like the one in Java 8? Mar 23 15:50:08 guava, somewhat Mar 23 15:50:36 or if you want to go whole hog, scala Mar 23 15:50:47 pfn, guava's seems fine, thanks! Mar 23 15:59:59 Hi all. I searched SO but couldn't find an answer. Is it possible to detect whether the user has paid for an app that previously had a price? I.e. previously you had to pay for it but now you it's free. Mar 23 16:00:11 NoirAvlaa: What? Mar 23 16:00:16 I'm talking about threading Mar 23 16:00:39 Whoops Mar 23 16:00:42 Meant rathodvikas10 Mar 23 16:00:42 Haha Mar 23 16:00:43 Sorry :p Mar 23 16:02:17 Hey guys I have a question about a custom big content notification. Is it possible to make the height of the notification dynamic? I set the height of the outer layout to wrap_content but this seems to always end up being 256dp and leaves blank space in the middle of the notification. Mar 23 16:07:07 howdy Mar 23 16:07:26 OK - now I have a simple hello world type app : just a minimal blank app created by android studio, with an extra activity added where Activity A does startActivityForResult on Activity B Mar 23 16:07:37 Renarii, I'm rather certain that notification sizes are static Mar 23 16:07:39 Then B returns a result to A Mar 23 16:07:48 I've got a question Mar 23 16:07:57 Things work fine until I make A a “singleInstance” in the manifiest. Mar 23 16:07:59 Mavrik: alright, thanks. Mar 23 16:08:49 At that point, when A does startActivityForResult(B), I get an immediate result of RESULT_CANCELED in A. B does start, but it doesn’t return a result to A. Mar 23 16:09:38