**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 24 02:59:58 2016 Mar 24 03:10:26 I want to ship my app with a small, prepopulated sql database that will only need to be queried. Is there a preferred way to do this? I'm still new to everything Mar 24 03:11:38 there's a couple of ways to do it, depending how small small is Mar 24 03:13:31 bankai: very small. The db has 110 items each with about 6-7 columns with not much data Mar 24 03:13:53 proguard is automatic part of the build Mar 24 03:13:59 there is nothing to download... Mar 24 03:15:12 this is what I'm populating the db with: http://messier.seds.org/data1.html Mar 24 03:15:35 microt: three options : bundle it and access it from assets, bundle it and copy it to external storage on first run, create it on first access Mar 24 03:16:03 second option is probably the best IMO, then if you ever need to write to it you're fine to do so Mar 24 03:16:49 hooray for bids on stuff you know nothing about :p Mar 24 03:17:01 guess dude left Mar 24 03:18:42 bankai: thanks, that gives me something to start with. Mar 24 03:18:57 microt: this might help http://mobisys.in/blog/2012/01/tutorial-using-database-in-android-applications/ Mar 24 03:22:02 bankai: thanks, I had that one on my to-read list. There are just so many ways to achieve similar things, it can be a bit overwhelming at first. Especially when I'm still just learning how to orient myself with the basics Mar 24 03:26:37 Goodnight. Mar 24 03:39:25 Anyone have a working lock screen widget example? Mar 24 03:49:49 Trying to use a simple webview, but when I start the activity which loads my webview, it hangs for like a second, and then launches the browser. Ideas? WebView webView = (WebView) findViewById(R.id.webview); webView.loadUrl("https://twitter.com/jakewharton"); Mar 24 03:52:17 set your webViewClient Mar 24 03:57:30 how do you set the versionCode? Mar 24 03:57:49 you increment it yourself manually? Use the date maybe Mar 24 03:57:57 20160323 Mar 24 03:58:50 xFF, don't bother with lock screen widgets Mar 24 03:59:18 xFF, but any widget can be turned into a lock screen widget by adding a flag Mar 24 03:59:28 Why not pfn? Mar 24 03:59:31 in the appwidget xml descriptor Mar 24 03:59:32 ...adding a flag? Mar 24 03:59:37 ah. Mar 24 04:00:11 xFF, because android versions that support the lock screen widgets are quickly disappearing Mar 24 04:01:20 Ok. Waht about hardware buttons when the screen is off? e.g. volume up/down Mar 24 04:05:21 RustyShackleford: git rev-list HEAD --count Mar 24 04:08:12 bankai_: Hm, didn't know that it was necessary. Saw it in the docs. Anything specific I should be setting it to? Mar 24 04:08:35 new WebClient() i believe Mar 24 04:09:08 so I'm trying to use and okhttp Interceptor to mock out a network call Mar 24 04:09:24 I'll save a response for this API call to a file Mar 24 04:09:53 then pass it thgouh my retrofit/simplexml code to use in unit tests Mar 24 04:10:09 except I have no idea where to start or how to do it Mar 24 04:10:28 RustyShackleford: https://github.com/square/okhttp/tree/master/mockwebserver Mar 24 04:13:30 tm604: beautiful thanks Mar 24 04:38:00 <_xor> Damnit, wtf. I signed up for Hockey, but I haven't gotten any verification email yet. Anyone else ever experience this? Mar 24 04:40:10 xFF, that works fine, register a media button receiver Mar 24 04:45:56 do you use roboelectric? Mar 24 04:46:01 it seems complicated Mar 24 05:30:18 Greetings. Question. Android Studio. I generate some source in .../build/generated/source/castor/... and set srcDir. App compiles. Generated src is hiddin in android studio (like). When I navigate to a generated src item it decompiles from the .class file... Mar 24 05:30:19 But if for example I navigate to BuildConfig.DEBUG it shows me the .../build/generated/source/.../BuildConfig.java (even-though it is hidden as well). If I generate the src outside the .../build/... dir everything is fine for navigation. Mar 24 05:30:24 Is there something special I need to do to have my generated source act like BuildConfig.java/R.java/etc, aka hidden but "navigate to"-able? Mar 24 05:32:56 Android Studio 1.5.1, Gradle 2.8, Android Plugin 1.5.0. Mar 24 05:38:59 I have a working vertical seekbar implementation but I'm trying to get a drawable thats used for the thumb to rotate as well, any ideas? Mar 24 07:20:17 NvrBst, generate your source into the correct package path Mar 24 07:20:28 and use the correct gradle source generation tasks Mar 24 07:21:55 I assume gradle has such a thing Mar 24 07:33:57 hmm are you sure it isn't a android-studio or android-gradle-plugin issue? As far I as i can tell gradle doesn't really have a generated src vs src distiction, just src directories. And building with gradle is fine. Mar 24 07:33:58 Just the android studio hides the src... and I can't tell how it figures out R.java/AIDL/BuildConfig.java/etc (internal generated stuff) is different than my generated code in the build folder. AKA maybe there is some kind of android-gradle-plugin feature for SourceSet I can define? Mar 24 07:39:55 I'm thinking maybe it's an android studio bug... and the aidl/internal/etc plugins can do it, but, the build.gradle>.iml thing can't do it. In essance I'd think it should do it by default for any java.srcDir inside the build dir. Mar 24 07:43:17 I got an ANR in an Activity after it was stopped. How is this possible? Mar 24 07:44:56 Maybe because super.onPause() was not the first thing called in onPause()? Mar 24 07:45:26 I'll issue a bug report for my issue and see if anyone says something there! Mar 24 07:50:21 Hi everyone. Does anyone know how to get a list of purchased apps? I'm very curious on how this app functions: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.azefsw.purchasedapps Mar 24 07:55:33 you can see them thru play on a pc browser Mar 24 08:00:41 hi gang Mar 24 09:50:07 Hi folks, anyone ever tried to put a camera preview inside a gridview? Mar 24 10:17:13 no Mar 24 10:52:31 When calling methods from this class: http://pastebin.com/UEZXGpqR in my activity , do I simply use the class name like "LocalPreferences.setPreferences1();" instead of creating an instance of it, since it's static? Mar 24 10:54:12 when calling setPreferences1 yes Mar 24 10:54:31 but this is general java, rather newbie, question Mar 24 10:54:50 yeah I know, I'm rusty Mar 24 10:55:17 thanks though Mar 24 11:11:26 "I'm too old for this shit!" Mar 24 12:01:26 Hi. I don't know if I am in the right place. I want to simulate a Long Press on Android 4.2.2 on terminal. But in this version the "input swipe" command, doesn't allow the duration parameters. How can I simulate this operation? Mar 24 13:01:26 how to remove all items from recyclerview with default animation? Mar 24 13:02:08 after adding items in recyclerview adapter, and calling notifyItemRangeInserted shows animation Mar 24 13:02:51 i like listview because it supports adapters but visually i need something like tablelayout, can i use adapters with table or easily make listview look like table? Mar 24 13:03:01 however, if I similarly remove items with notifyItemRangeRemoved, all items get removed in a blink Mar 24 13:28:06 where does the Client class come from? Mar 24 13:28:08 http://newbility.blogspot.com/2014/02/mock-retrofit-using-dagger.html Mar 24 13:32:06 RustyShackleford: Client class apparently is just an interface with function public Response execute(Request request); in it Mar 24 13:32:45 RetrofitClientMock simply implements the interface Mar 24 13:40:29 Hi. I don't know if I am in the right place. I want to simulate a Long Press on Android 4.2.2 on terminal. But in this version the "input swipe" command, doesn't allow the duration parameters. How can I simulate this operation? Mar 24 14:00:09 hm, I think 23.2.1 recyclerview might cause some ghosting when scrolling Mar 24 14:00:23 * Zharf goes back to 23.1.1 to see if the problem still exists Mar 24 14:05:56 maybe not, it happens on 23.1.1 too Mar 24 14:05:58 hmm Mar 24 14:06:59 what the fuck is up with those websites demanding humongous passwords containing uppercase and lowercase letters, symbols, numbers, japanese/arabic/chinese characters and hieroglyphs? Mar 24 14:07:41 someone needs to read xkcd ffs Mar 24 14:09:06 I wouldn't use xkcd as any kind of a reference, but sure, I get the point Mar 24 14:09:53 the password comic is pretty good, it makes a point. Mar 24 14:10:16 casadogg, because policies are easier to enforce than educating users Mar 24 14:10:57 dragorn the weakest link in any kind of security system is the human being, by enforcing stupidly ridiculously long passwords containing all kinds of shit you will make the weakest link weaker Mar 24 14:11:06 personally I don't like to write long passwords, I'd rather write those archaic hieroglyphs Mar 24 14:11:09 as in stupid people glueing post its in their monitors with their passwords Mar 24 14:11:47 but then I never write my passwords anywhere except the login boxes Mar 24 14:14:21 I use keepass Mar 24 14:14:25 problem solved Mar 24 14:14:59 it was never a problem for me Mar 24 14:15:21 but it is for people who are not used to sit on a computer 8 to 10 hours a day Mar 24 14:15:31 what do you mean 8 to 10... Mar 24 14:15:32 i mean Mar 24 14:15:38 not sit on a computer Mar 24 14:15:43 you get what i mean Mar 24 14:15:54 more like 14-18 (for me) Mar 24 14:16:16 enjoy your thrombosis Mar 24 14:16:38 meh :p Mar 24 14:16:46 nothing better to do in the world Mar 24 14:18:54 Zharf ikr Mar 24 14:19:13 ikr? Mar 24 14:20:52 i know really Mar 24 14:21:19 you oughta stretch from time to time though Mar 24 14:22:12 do some tumbles, somersauts, backflips, barrel rolls and whatnots Mar 24 14:22:43 Hello guys, I'm using Picasso to load a background image from a network server and use a Target object to set the background layout of my fragment with the downloaded image. But the weird thing is that it doesn't change the background, until I leave the fragment and come back again. I even tried invalidate() on the layout, but with no success. Any idea? Mar 24 14:23:28 I have this scenario: I make a http request to load an image that the user has stored in my backend. I get the byte data and apply it to his profile image. But when using the app with transitions between activites, each time he enters that activity with his profile image , I make a new http request to download the image. It's the only source. How does Android work here, does it hold the data from server in memory so I won't ha Mar 24 14:24:37 Number5: I think you need to apply the downloaded image with async to get direct response. Mar 24 14:24:57 Bernzel_, use Picasso, it automatically caches the downloaded image. Or use Glide... Mar 24 14:25:55 Oh I see. I'll try that Number5 Mar 24 14:25:58 Bernzel_, check Picasso, it will solve your problem, my problem hasn't to do with downloading, but rather updating. Mar 24 14:26:38 yeah about your issue, I've had that before with Libgdx alot. With Libgdx it was solved by changing the background image on a Runnable. Essentially running it on the rendering thread. Mar 24 14:26:53 I believe. Mar 24 14:27:25 Suppose it's called Main Thread in vanilla android dev. Mar 24 14:36:09 hello, i'm trying to compile project(':project') and it's generating an AndroidManifest with a bunch of stuff i don't need (overwriting mine), how do you avoid this? Mar 24 14:36:36 hmm Mar 24 14:36:45 Are you sure it's overwriting yours? Mar 24 14:36:53 Or are you just editing the wrong file? Mar 24 14:36:59 casadogg, I think I usually get up after at most 6 hours, for a toilet break, possibly to get something to eat, etc :p Mar 24 14:37:07 no i'm seeing it overwrite it Mar 24 14:38:10 casadogg, I should set some kind of a timer on my work computer so that I remember to move every few hours, often I notice that I've been sitting here for the last 4-5 hours again Mar 24 14:38:25 Mavrik: maybe it's targeting the release or building a release version, because it's pointing to /build/intermediates/bundles/release Mar 24 14:38:36 Mavrik: but i need the debug one i guess Mar 24 14:38:39 That's what I meant. Mar 24 14:38:44 You're looking at the wrong file. Mar 24 14:39:13 You're looking at what gradle generates from your application AndroidManifest + library AAR manifests + build.gradle parameters Mar 24 14:39:27 And that always gets overwritten... you shouldn't touch files in build dir for that reason Mar 24 14:39:36 "Your" AndroidManifest.xml is in your src/something dir. Mar 24 14:39:53 oh yea i think i fixed it now, ty Mar 24 14:40:51 It's a common thing because AS tends to open wrong file when it barfs an error :P Mar 24 14:40:52 Bernzel_, ok thnx my friend. Mar 24 14:46:33 Number5 If you find a good solution , I'd be glad to hear it. I'm currently trying to draw a button to the screen when a boolean value turns true, which requires me to constantly check that boolean in that sort of thread that calls continuously Mar 24 14:47:32 Bernzel_, what exactly do you want to do? Mar 24 14:48:11 I'm loading some data from my backend on a method that get's called onCreate , when it's done I flag a bool to true, when that happens I want a button to be drawn to the screen. Mar 24 14:48:16 You can add a button by creating one and add it to the layout programmatically. Mar 24 14:48:38 I want it to appear only when all data is done Mar 24 14:49:20 Bernzel_, have you ever heard of callbacks? Mar 24 14:50:01 is this loading data, in another thread? Do you use a custom thread to handle these kind of data? Mar 24 14:50:32 Bernzel_, Yeah why not use a callback? Mar 24 14:51:26 This is the activity: http://pastebin.com/T7Nrr0Lx Mar 24 14:51:36 Bernzel_, do you use http request? Or is it another type of protocol (loading from bluetooth, or use a custom tcp socket...) Mar 24 14:52:57 I'd assume it's http request, it's from my backends SDK Mar 24 14:55:04 Bernzel_, if you use http request, you have Volley library which is doing a lot of the complex stuff for you and returns a the http response in the main thread from whereon you can handle the data (i.e. parse json or something), so no need of boolean flag or something like that. When you get your response, you can call a method adding a button to your layout. Mar 24 14:57:48 Number5: It's no http requests I can control , I simply fetch data through the sdk's provided methods. But never mind that for now, it's the part with displaying a button on a certain event. I'd have to create the button in my Activity and not the layout file I suppose? Mar 24 15:01:41 Activity uses a layout that you set with setContentView() method. If you use an proprietary SDK, than I'm afraid you have to handle the communication yourself. But than you can use Handle, to post a message or even an object from your custom thread to the Main thread, without a problem. Mar 24 15:01:41 Found the visibility property that I can use perhaps Mar 24 15:02:46 Bernzel_, it's a better solution to use the visibility method of a view and in your case that's a button. This way you don't have to programmatically add a button. Mar 24 15:08:36 So not like this answer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9994967/android-how-to-make-a-button-display-on-a-condition ? Mar 24 15:09:46 That accepted answer looks reasonable Mar 24 15:10:18 i think the issue for you is knowing when to hide and show the button (you will need to listen for a change in what ever variable it is depending on) Mar 24 15:10:41 yes indeed that's what I'm missing still Mar 24 15:11:16 is the boolean in that pastbin you mentioned? Mar 24 15:11:25 what one is it? Mar 24 15:11:33 yes. done_loading Mar 24 15:11:42 I got it! N stands for NutJob! Mar 24 15:16:03 Bernzel_, toally un-tested and hacked together (may have bugs), but why not this? http://pastebin.com/stw6hzAH Mar 24 15:17:07 i probably could have added comments, but take a look in particular at line 61 Mar 24 15:21:07 truckcrash: hang on a minute and I'll take alook soon, gotta put out kitchen fir Mar 24 15:21:08 fire Mar 24 15:22:23 <|PiP|> Is it possible to "scale" a page such that it has 4 areas? So that if an element inside of it has a width/height of "match_parent", it only fills one of the areas? Mar 24 15:25:47 Pip, you could use a linear layout with layout_weight set Mar 24 15:26:00 assuming you want them ordered in line Mar 24 15:26:38 <|PiP|> im trying to figure out how to break up a layout without hard coding widths, kind of like a grid Mar 24 15:26:45 <|PiP|> is GridLayout the right tool to do that? Mar 24 15:28:37 You could do that. sure. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10016343/gridlayout-not-gridview-how-to-stretch-all-children-evenly Mar 24 15:33:56 wow docker for windows and mac Mar 24 15:34:11 google could just give us docker container with all the tools maybe ? Mar 24 15:35:58 *docker for windows and mac.... is actually just run on an linux vm Mar 24 15:36:02 how ironic Mar 24 15:37:16 i'm guessin truckcrash is linux master race haha Mar 24 15:37:28 no not at all. Mar 24 15:37:34 this is so tempting https://medium.com/@dmytrodanylyk/android-project-structure-alternative-way-29ce766682f0 Mar 24 15:37:51 but the whole idea of docker is to be more portable at lightweight that vull vm / images Mar 24 15:37:55 full* Mar 24 15:38:04 but i figure i'll just wind up finding some corner case bug in the gradle plugin Mar 24 15:38:07 it is still a great setup Mar 24 15:38:14 im not trying to bash it Mar 24 15:38:57 "Released with Android Studio 2.1 Preview 3, Android Data Binding now has 2-way data binding." orly Mar 24 15:39:07 i thought they had that already Mar 24 15:41:16 truckcrash: it worked very nicely thank you! Mar 24 15:42:31 great. no problem. So that downloadData function is the callback that backendless calls when it is done, so you can just change your visibility there :) Mar 24 15:42:36 Number5: Hey about Picasso. Can I http get an image in one activity without using it (only caching it) to be used in the following activity? I have this loading screen where I planned on fetching all data so the user experiences better flow when he get's to the important activities. Mar 24 15:45:02 Bernzel_, I'm not sure what you mean, but when you use Picasso, it does requests for you under the hood. You just pass a url and imageview and that's it. Picasso is to my opinion the best library ever used. Mar 24 15:49:09 hey guys, my listview doesnt fill up the screen http://prntscr.com/ajfai3 I've set its width and height to match parent Mar 24 15:50:06 Bernzel_ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22505290/preload-images-into-memory-disk-with-android-picasso http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24883034/getting-picasso-to-pre-fetch-forthcoming-images Mar 24 15:51:55 perfect truckcrash , couldn't find the right search term. Mar 24 15:54:06 np Mar 24 15:55:56 xJeremyCx, your parent ViewGroup has padding Mar 24 15:56:39 yea you're right! thanks Mar 24 15:56:45 no prob Mar 24 16:09:16 hi can anyone tell me more about provisioning a device through NFC like described here: https://source.android.com/devices/tech/admin/provision.html#profile_owner_provisioning ? does that mean the app i want to make as the device owner has to be in the play store? Mar 24 16:09:20 can i have it just be some random APK i built? Mar 24 16:38:44 nemik: What are you trying to do? Mar 24 16:41:05 Hey, is there any way I can control an android device via pc if the digitiser is dead? (dev mode wasn't activated... grr) Mar 24 16:41:43 you could try plugging a mouse into it Mar 24 16:42:04 doesn't support otg :/ Mar 24 16:42:13 you can do it via adb Mar 24 16:42:15 there are a few things that mirror your phone to the computer, but they require dev mode Mar 24 16:42:16 vysor Mar 24 16:42:40 vysor requires dev mode to be enabled, no? Mar 24 16:43:54 I am having an issue with memory leak and picasso in a recycler view (while loading drawables) I did add a no cache policy since I heard that might be the problem and still app crashes with out of memory error http://pastebin.com/NtPWdbSf That is the code if anyone understands what I am doing Mar 24 16:44:01 For Android 5.1, why is there a white shade at the background of the shortcuts icons? Mar 24 16:49:07 j Mar 24 16:50:29 if I use images off the web I have no issues, just drawables being a pain in the ass Mar 24 16:54:13 AppCompatDelegate has @IntDef({MODE_NIGHT_NO, MODE_NIGHT_YES, MODE_NIGHT_AUTO, MODE_NIGHT_FOLLOW_SYSTEM}) Mar 24 16:54:32 i understand this, but then has : @interface NightMode {} Mar 24 16:54:44 which i don't understand - what is that @interface ? Mar 24 16:56:01 oh i see .. Mar 24 16:56:02 public abstract void setLocalNightMode(@NightMode int mode); Mar 24 16:56:05 markyosullivan: i'd like the app to take over as the home screen on an uprovisioned device Mar 24 16:56:24 yup g00s it's all there https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/support/+/15ad538/v7/appcompat/src/android/support/v7/app/AppCompatDelegate.java Mar 24 16:57:59 g00s, man, as a developer you should learn to Google by now :) Mar 24 16:58:00 https://sites.google.com/a/android.com/tools/tech-docs/support-annotations Mar 24 16:58:08 Also, don't write code without these -_- Mar 24 16:58:54 Interesting... so it is not Picasso even this method crashes the app, am I doing something wrong with the drawables and recycler view that it does not like it... holder.pic.setImageResource(R.drawable.a1);.... Honestly changing from listview to recycler view so far seems like the biggest mistake Mar 24 17:00:51 Mavrik i got confused by this. I stored the night mode as an integer in preferences, but when i read it back i could not call the method with that int Mar 24 17:01:14 even though it was the right int. so i had to use a case to convert the int to an int :| Mar 24 17:01:23 s/case/switch Mar 24 17:02:01 you mean it prevents you from compiling Mar 24 17:02:05 yes Mar 24 17:02:12 it's a lint error :) Mar 24 17:02:16 yeah, but that's a good thing Mar 24 17:02:25 something you read back from prefs isn't guaranteed to always be valid Mar 24 17:02:45 yes i agree Mar 24 17:06:45 good thing AS decompiler is so aweseom Mar 24 17:07:18 +1 Mar 24 17:07:36 because this is still not 23.2 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/support/v7/app/AppCompatDelegate.html Mar 24 17:07:41 g00s: intellij :-) Mar 24 17:07:46 when i am forced to use eclipse at work and try to view a .class file Mar 24 17:07:49 & just hate myself Mar 24 17:08:07 and AS autocomplete says setXXXMode(int mode) ... i had NO fucking idea this was a special annotation Mar 24 17:08:20 gdrc actually the decompiler is fernflower Mar 24 17:08:33 they just use it, you can use it standalone too Mar 24 17:08:35 g00s special annotation? Mar 24 17:09:16 jug6ernaut yeah, the code just says public static final int MODE_NIGHT_NO = 1; Mar 24 17:09:32 but then further on they have Mar 24 17:09:44 @IntDef({MODE_NIGHT_NO, MODE_NIGHT_YES, MODE_NIGHT_AUTO, MODE_NIGHT_FOLLOW_SYSTEM}) Mar 24 17:09:44 ... Mar 24 17:09:44 @interface NightMode {} Mar 24 17:09:58 ah Mar 24 17:09:59 but unless you decompiled the class, you couldn't know this Mar 24 17:10:10 AS doesn't say anything, d.android.com doesn't say anything Mar 24 17:13:56 so hopefully, AS 2.0 will show void foo(@NightMode int mode) rather than void foo(int mode) Mar 24 17:14:24 seems like that information gets lost Mar 24 17:15:55 * g00s kinda undecided whether annotations are good thing in general Mar 24 17:22:41 pfn is there a better way to do this? http://pastebin.com/7RJLmRcN Mar 24 17:23:06 ignore the one mistake there in mapping Mar 24 17:23:47 use fallthrough, presumably static analysis will work, and you just say mode = nightmode; setDefaultNightMode(mode) Mar 24 17:24:03 if it doesn't work, I would file that as a bug against lint Mar 24 17:24:16 or whatever it is that's preventing the compile from succeeding Mar 24 17:24:26 hm ok Mar 24 17:24:29 thanks Mar 24 17:25:39 http://pastebin.com/ERDnQvhx Mar 24 17:25:46 like that, or assign mode = nightmode if necessary Mar 24 17:25:59 but either way, static analysis should handle that properly Mar 24 17:26:50 ok that fallthrough didn't work either sadly Mar 24 17:27:00 anyone here use EventBus? Mar 24 17:31:30 pfn i thought this would be possible : @NightMode int foo = AppCompatDelegate.MODE_NIGHT_NO Mar 24 17:31:50 i clearly don't know wtf i'm doing here, oh well Mar 24 17:33:50 so i guess those annotations only work in method signatures Mar 24 17:33:52 Can anyone take a look at this.... http://pastebin.com/cbcYR2yu Mar 24 17:34:12 Line 131-133 Mar 24 17:34:24 I don't know why I can't access variables in the outer class this way. Mar 24 17:35:11 TinFury because that class is declared static Mar 24 17:35:35 so it can't see scope of BreadMixingSchedule Mar 24 17:35:40 hm now i am getting hungry Mar 24 17:37:06 oh... Mar 24 17:37:08 :| Mar 24 17:37:10 Thank you Mar 24 17:38:08 pfn, hrm i can't even do void setDefaultNightMode(@NightMode int mode) () - i'm guessing because those annotations are not public Mar 24 17:38:46 java sucks Mar 24 17:38:52 :D Mar 24 17:38:55 of course Mar 24 17:46:37 Evening. Does anybody know if there's a way to directly go to the permission settings for an app? I can open the general app details/settings with ACTION_APPLICATION_DETAILS_SETTINGS, but I'd liket offer the user a button that directly goes to the permissions. Mar 24 17:47:29 g00s, now that I've removed static from the class everything works but it complains that inner class should be static?? Mar 24 17:48:05 TinFury it probably should be, for safety reasons ;) Mar 24 17:49:12 http://www.wfplsiu.com/ Mar 24 17:50:24 orbyt_ like you're using fucking Java. Hybrid apps suck." haha Mar 24 17:50:54 lolz Mar 24 17:51:08 "Time to learn fucking Java and Swift. Hybrid apps suck, so your dumb ass needs to learn both." Mar 24 18:08:41 s73v3r what do you think of this https://dzone.com/articles/simple-suggestion-radically Mar 24 18:09:19 "One way to achieve this is to allow packages to depend only on antecedents, that is, only on those packages that "come before" it in the package's fully-qualified name. This is radial encapsulation." Mar 24 18:10:06 let me take a look at it in a bit Mar 24 18:10:38 cool thx. never heard anyone call this radial encapsulation before. also for some reason seems like i missed the memo on best practices of Java package structure Mar 24 18:16:37 it’s one of those things that sounds neat, but I don’t know how practical it is Mar 24 18:17:09 there’s obviously exceptions, as following it strictly means your code couldn’t use anything in com.java or com.android Mar 24 18:21:53 in general, however, i am in favor of marking as many things as private as possible. Mar 24 18:23:54 If I have a ContentProvider and want to use RxJava to listen to changes and reload the data in the UI. Is that possible and easy to do? Trying to look for examples. Mar 24 18:29:42 codepete there was a project called RxLoader or something Mar 24 18:30:10 yeah https://github.com/evant/rxloader Mar 24 18:30:13 g00s: Thanks! I'll check it out. Mar 24 18:31:30 s73v3r i guess where i break this is com.foo.internal ... where i have stuff in com.foo using stuff in com.foo.internal Mar 24 18:34:19 so has anyone used anything other than gcm for push notifications ? Mar 24 18:34:31 like Smack API and some server ? Mar 24 18:34:41 open source stuff Mar 24 18:34:49 not really Mar 24 18:34:54 paresh: I'm intending to use Batch with Firebase Mar 24 18:35:13 Think it's only for Firebase but I'll check Mar 24 18:35:17 the way android is right now, you kinda have to use GCM unless you don’t care about getting the messages Mar 24 18:35:25 is hungarian frowned upon for android controls? for instance, lvwPhones (for listview) pnlLogin (linear layout) cmdForgotPassword (button)_ Mar 24 18:35:26 just ask justJanne about it :p Mar 24 18:35:40 guideX: hungarian is ALWAYS frowned upon Mar 24 18:35:46 hehe Mar 24 18:35:49 just making sure Mar 24 18:35:50 Yeah it's only Firebase Mar 24 18:35:51 s73v3r, haha Mar 24 18:36:04 before any other of my programmer friends point and laugh Mar 24 18:36:41 hungarian? Mar 24 18:36:51 As in the nationality? :s Mar 24 18:36:55 markyosullivan: it's something programmers in the 80's-90's used to do Mar 24 18:37:05 hungarian notation Mar 24 18:37:50 I was born in the 90's Mar 24 18:37:50 94 Mar 24 18:37:50 :D Mar 24 18:38:10 markyosullivan, ayyy me too Mar 24 18:38:11 :D Mar 24 18:38:14 when you were born, I had windows programs under development Mar 24 18:38:31 maybe hit deploy right when you came out of the womb Mar 24 18:38:36 not real sure ;D Mar 24 18:40:11 Old school :) Mar 24 18:40:45 now I really need some open source alternative to this Mar 24 18:40:56 paresh: to what Mar 24 18:41:09 guideX, push notifications Mar 24 18:41:29 which actually works Mar 24 18:41:36 and not resort to GCM ... Mar 24 18:41:48 paresh: impossible. Mar 24 18:42:03 I use some C# library for all my push notifications Mar 24 18:42:05 Since Marshmallow, only GCM is allowed while the device has been unused. Mar 24 18:42:10 PushSharp? Mar 24 18:42:18 On Android N, all apps are killed as soon as screen as off, Mar 24 18:42:21 https://github.com/Redth/PushSharp Mar 24 18:42:25 So there GCM only works at all. Mar 24 18:42:48 I've debated with Googlers, filed official complaints regarding competition and privacy with the EU, Mar 24 18:42:49 I wrote a game called pooper-scooper in 1982 for a PET 32 computer in BASIC Mar 24 18:42:51 So we can only wait. Mar 24 18:43:42 guideX, remove GCM and *insert open source alternative* or something self hosted Mar 24 18:43:58 paresh: this is open source Mar 24 18:44:07 oh self hosted Mar 24 18:44:19 yea but it uses gcm so Mar 24 18:44:40 paresh: it's impossible to get notifications without GCM Mar 24 18:44:42 Sorry. Mar 24 18:44:54 justJanne, :( thanks for the confirmation Mar 24 18:44:55 paresh: I've done it so many times, using C# loops and pushsharp Mar 24 18:44:56 justJanne has it right: Under the new battery models (doze in M and aggressive/constant doze in N), only GCM high priority can wake an app up. GCM or nothing. Mar 24 18:45:14 also once C2DM turned into GCM nearly all push frameworks turned into api wrappers around ios and gcm, not many independent ones Mar 24 18:45:38 yea Mar 24 18:45:47 guideX, PushSharp is a api wrapper around GCM Mar 24 18:46:04 and other proprietary services Mar 24 18:46:18 what's worng with that Mar 24 18:46:20 just wondering Mar 24 18:46:22 paresh, dragorn: I'm personally involved because we were developing our own system (as we are an open source app, don't host servers for our app ourselves, and wish to operate under EU privacy rules) Mar 24 18:46:22 if you can exempt yourself from battery saving you can use whatever, but that's not viable for an app with normal users Mar 24 18:46:24 no likey c#? Mar 24 18:46:32 So I filed complaints, and complained to Google. Mar 24 18:46:43 paresh: you can make your own webservice using it, and then you have your hosted solution Mar 24 18:46:45 and you wrote it Mar 24 18:46:53 dragorn: you can't even do that. That only exempts you from appstandby. Mar 24 18:47:03 just some ideas Mar 24 18:47:14 I know you want someone to do it for you, but meh, just build one,m it's ez Mar 24 18:47:18 The only way to get around Doze is by being a priviledged system (/system/priv-app) app Mar 24 18:47:27 I tried everything. Mar 24 18:47:52 thats depressing Mar 24 18:47:58 Sure, we could just root the devices we are being installed on and disable Doze for our app, which should be easy on non-nexus devices, Mar 24 18:48:09 (Considering the recent root exploits) Mar 24 18:48:17 But that would never work on the play store. Mar 24 18:48:25 yea Mar 24 18:48:36 And forcing Google to change their behaviour and pay damages could take years. Mar 24 18:48:42 paresh: so easy a caveman could do it Mar 24 18:49:05 guideX, yes I know that :) heh Mar 24 18:49:33 guideX: no, getting around Doze isn't easy. And I say that as someone who reimplemented Qt's whole slot/signal system with cross-device signals on Android for an app. Mar 24 18:50:16 justJanne, he is talking about server side thing Mar 24 18:50:35 justJanne: yeah, I was suggesting to paresh to make a wcf service for his push notifications, using push sharp with c# Mar 24 18:50:39 anything which implements XMPP or some messaging protocol Mar 24 18:50:46 and then he can do push's to his android's Mar 24 18:50:52 and ios, and winphone, etc Mar 24 18:51:01 yea and that uses GCM Mar 24 18:51:25 but me and justJanne were talking about removing GCM and using some other service Mar 24 18:51:30 ah ok Mar 24 18:51:34 I wasn't aware of that I'm sorry Mar 24 18:51:44 it's okay :) Mar 24 18:53:30 hello all, does somebody knows if its possible to debug an inapp buy process within the android studio Mar 24 18:55:44 guideX: PushSharp would still require using GCM, so for them it’s out Mar 24 18:58:22 justJanne, what open source were you developing that system for ? Mar 24 19:03:08 paresh: an open source IRC client ;) Mar 24 19:03:34 justJanne, named ? Mar 24 19:03:42 QuasselDroid, the Android client for Quassel, specifically. I've started updating and rewriting the 2yo Android app recently, and wanted to add push notifications. Mar 24 19:03:57 I see Mar 24 19:04:01 Quassel is a bouncer with a seperate protocol. Mar 24 19:04:08 Clients for all major platforms. Mar 24 19:04:18 I was planning on writing an irc client Mar 24 19:04:31 Why a seperate protocol? Simple, to offer seamless loading of old messages on all platforms, Mar 24 19:04:53 and I can't write more currently as typing on this phone hurts physically. Mar 24 19:05:34 lol Martin "Java Sucks" Sandsmark Mar 24 19:05:45 looks nice ;) Mar 24 19:08:18 Is anyone here familiar with indexing columns in a database? I'm using sqlcipher and according to the docs "any columns that are used for searches should be indexed". In a DB Query what columns are the "search columns" in a query? Is it after the SELECT or after the WHERE? Mar 24 19:09:14 eghdk: there's an #sql channel Mar 24 19:10:57 Is there a Gson for xml or something similar ? How am I going to convert xml data to pojo classes in Android ? Mar 24 19:13:18 guideX: Okay, I tried once there before without too much help, but I tried again. Thanks Mar 24 19:16:25 I just figured out that anything like front end in OnCreate will crash my android app Mar 24 19:17:23 need to put it at the bottom lol Mar 24 19:17:27 alot of wasted time Mar 24 19:17:34 (the bottom of onCreate) Mar 24 19:18:38 probably my RecyclerView and other experiments from yesterday worked fine Mar 24 19:18:39 oh well Mar 24 19:19:29 paresh: I’m justJanne / Janne Koschinski, took over maintenance earlier this year. sandsmark stopped working on it a long time ago. Mar 24 19:19:55