**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 08 02:59:58 2016 Apr 08 03:00:06 I think it does the job pretty well. It is a bit confusing, sure Apr 08 03:00:20 RustyShackleford: I'm comparing with a plain Android project in traditional IntelliJ IDEA, without ant nor gradle. Its internal compliation built the a project almost instantaneously. Apr 08 03:00:48 gradle sucks Apr 08 03:01:08 and internal compilation in intellij isn't that fast Apr 08 03:01:09 pfn: Thanks Apr 08 03:01:22 pfn: Faster than Gradle. Apr 08 03:01:28 * pfn uses gradle for none of his projects Apr 08 03:01:51 and projects I work on that use gradle, I don't use gradle with Apr 08 03:02:02 I just use my auto importer Apr 08 03:02:29 is it really worth the effort to not use gradle? Apr 08 03:02:38 how do you use android studio without using gradle? Apr 08 03:02:46 for me It is Apr 08 03:02:53 and I don't use android studio either Apr 08 03:03:03 what do you use then? Apr 08 03:03:11 intellij Apr 08 03:03:25 but android studio can be used without gradle as well Apr 08 03:03:34 if you add the appropriate build tool plugins Apr 08 03:03:44 http://thenextweb.com/dd/2016/04/07/google-facebook-uber-swift/ Apr 08 03:03:57 aint happen :) Apr 08 03:05:00 which OS do you guys dev on? Apr 08 03:05:16 QNX Apr 08 03:05:46 ubuntu is great for dev but god is it ugly Apr 08 03:06:02 OS X Apr 08 03:06:33 ubuntu is awful in every way Apr 08 03:06:45 definitely considering a macbook. Apr 08 03:06:59 windows 10 is pretty nice, but windows can be a pain for dev stuff Apr 08 03:07:22 just run ubuntu on windows 10, apparently that's a thing now Apr 08 03:07:51 They do worth it. I came from windows 8 and it just feel good now Apr 08 03:08:13 RustyShackleford: I have done Android development without gradle, and it's a pain Apr 08 03:08:36 RustyShackleford: The biggest pain is that no library provider bothers to explain what jar's I need. All they say is "add this to gradle config" Apr 08 03:09:15 RustyShackleford: I had the worst time trying to figure out how to get the compatibility API's to load properly. Apr 08 03:10:52 RustyShackleford: OSX has gotten pretty bad these days. Apr 08 03:11:57 loke, that's not hard using any build. tool Apr 08 03:12:06 it translates directly for all of them Apr 08 03:12:49 pfn: It's been a few years since I did it, so I can't remember exactly what problems I had. Apr 08 03:13:04 pfn: perhaps it's easier now? Apr 08 03:13:26 loke: Do you use OSX? Apr 08 03:13:42 I just resigned and went to Gradle. I wish I could avoid it though. I'm not looking forward to try to figure out how to build an Android application with Kotlin without Gradle though. Apr 08 03:13:50 GMX: Yes, and Linux. Apr 08 03:14:26 I used OSX since 2005. The last few years the quality of the OS has dropped enormously, to the point where I strongly doubt my next laptop will be a Mac Apr 08 03:15:18 loke: I heard that. But i'm still on mavericks, which is strong in my opinion Apr 08 03:15:51 GMX: Me too. I never upgraded my primary laptop to 10.11 Apr 08 03:15:53 2016 will be the year of desktop Linux! Apr 08 03:16:01 Leeds: I wish Apr 08 03:16:03 but not like Snow Leopard days Apr 08 03:16:26 linux is awesome Apr 08 03:16:39 loke: Is linux good for android dev? Does it have drawbacks? Apr 08 03:16:50 i installed it on this vps like 2 whole years ago and had literally zero problems with it Apr 08 03:16:57 GMX: I was plenty disappointed with 10.10, so unless 10.12 changes things for the better, I'm off OSX. Given their almost 100% focus on Iphone though, I kinda doubt that will happen. Apr 08 03:17:07 but on the desktop its always a pain in the butt Apr 08 03:17:13 I don't understand why the Android SDK is still 32-bit-only on Linux Apr 08 03:17:22 is that true? Apr 08 03:17:35 RustyShackleford: I have issues with Linux too, but mainly on the server. It's on the desktop. The main issue on the server is that damn systemd Apr 08 03:17:44 loke: Yeah, since 10.10 the updates were just useless Apr 08 03:18:07 * Leeds hugs simple reliable slackware Apr 08 03:18:29 Leeds: Does Slackware use systemd? Apr 08 03:19:04 loke: it does not Apr 08 03:19:12 Leeds: Sounds awesome :-) Apr 08 03:19:30 loke: it is :) Apr 08 03:19:41 Leeds: For the server, I'm mostly Solaris and Freebsd Apr 08 03:19:59 I was Solaris, back in the day when... Apr 08 03:20:39 kneehigh to a grasshopper? Apr 08 03:20:56 back when I was @sun.com Apr 08 03:21:04 Oh, nice Apr 08 03:21:11 the purple days were good days :( Apr 08 03:23:45 I know this might be weird request, but anyone with DLINK brand router give me their MAC address for wifi and underneath the router. I am doing an experiment. Apr 08 03:28:15 Demon_Jester: should i give you my ssn while i'm at it? Apr 08 03:29:30 RustyShackleford, no, you don't need to, I am seeing if belking changes their mac by one when the assign to wifi and ethernet. like 00:00:00:00:00:a1 for ethernet and for wifi it would be 00:00:00:00:00:b2 Apr 08 03:30:02 Leeds: I'm coming to Honky Kong this autumn. Apr 08 03:30:55 Leeds: Tell me what I should do there. Apr 08 03:37:25 loke, https://github.com/pfn/kotlin-plugin/tree/master/src/sbt-test/kotlin/extensions-android Apr 08 03:37:38 kotlin without gradle, for android Apr 08 03:39:09 pfn: Thanks, I'll check it out Apr 08 03:41:51 gordon_ that article was poorly written but there is probably some kernel of truth in it Apr 08 03:42:11 and the author didn't really know what he was talking about, but still Apr 08 03:44:45 loke: meet me for a beer? :) Apr 08 03:44:53 bringing the kids? Apr 08 03:44:56 Leeds: That's indeed possible. :-) Apr 08 03:45:29 Yes, it's a family trip. Not just the kids, but my wife's sister and mother too Apr 08 03:45:35 and my wife sister's kid Apr 08 03:45:52 They might want to go out my themselves, in which case I'll hook up with you :-) Apr 08 03:45:54 ooh, that'll be fun... you'll need a beer or two! Apr 08 03:46:35 Leeds: You got a google contect? I could drop you a hangout message or something. Apr 08 03:46:43 contact, even Apr 08 03:46:59 sure, I'm vmlinuz@ Apr 08 03:47:32 Oh, I'm already following you :-) Apr 08 03:47:44 hm, i tried putting a RecyclerView in AppBarLayout but that didn't work out well :D Apr 08 03:48:01 only 2 items, wrap content, no scrolling Apr 08 03:48:41 we have both been around a while... Apr 08 03:49:33 Leeds: Sure have. Apr 08 03:50:31 Leeds: when were you at Sun by the way, and what were you doing there? Apr 08 03:51:55 loke: I'm pretty sure we've discussed this before :) 2000-2005, in the UK, and mostly working on Linux/Solaris compatibility, SFW stuff, etc. - got some real deja vu with the 'bash-on-windows' aka 'Linux-binaries-on-windows' stories last week Apr 08 03:52:32 Leeds: Right. I have this nagging suspiction that we have actually met before. Were you working in the Manchester office? Apr 08 03:53:00 nope, Watford Apr 08 03:53:07 I see Apr 08 03:53:26 I never went to that office. Mostly Manchester, and some London and Glasgow. Apr 08 03:53:31 I came in as part of the bulk hire from SCO Apr 08 03:53:34 Sorry, not Glasgow Apr 08 03:53:37 Edinborough Apr 08 03:54:01 I left as part of the bulk layoff of ex-SCO people :) Apr 08 03:54:27 I left in 2001 just before the layoffs. Apr 08 03:55:08 I visited one or two offices around London, but we were pretty self-contained - we were really a satellite office of MPK, since we were Solaris engineering, nothing to do with local sales/support/etc Apr 08 03:55:48 Leeds: Your name does sound familiar. Were you ever working on any escalation issues? Apr 08 03:55:55 probably no more than one degree of separation, even if we didn't actually cross paths Apr 08 03:56:08 erm... no Apr 08 03:56:47 haha Mossack Fonseca Breach from wordpress plugin ? Apr 08 03:57:28 g00s: No evidence it actually happened that way. I think it all comes from a speculation article written by someone why looked at their site. Apr 08 03:57:37 g00s: I saw some speculation blaming drupal Apr 08 03:57:53 then again, it's not even clear yet if it was a breach, or an inside leak Apr 08 03:58:03 yeah Apr 08 03:58:54 either way its pretty epic Apr 08 03:59:22 their HK office was apparently a major part of the system, and there's a little local storm brewing over the coverage in our main English-language newspaper, which just happens to have completed its takeover by Alibaba this week Apr 08 04:00:11 will be fun for the rest of the leak, i guess more people in US Apr 08 04:00:49 my boss/client - no, I still don't have proper plans to dump him - actually pays me from a BVI company... he's a retired accountant, and I do believe is an ethical guy, but I mentioned it to him as a joke this week... Apr 08 04:01:24 he went off into a whole explanation/justification of how it was all above-board :) I think I hit a slight nerve with him, asking about that Apr 08 04:02:22 yeah there are legit reasons to hide wealth, like if you live in a country with corrupt govt, etc Apr 08 04:02:37 technically, of course, my entire lifestyle is offshore - it's a bit hard not to be, when you live on an island in a 'low-tax jurisdiction' :D Apr 08 04:02:41 but what they are saying is 20-32T in untaxed assets Apr 08 04:03:44 Leeds so are you going to give AS 2 a spin !? Apr 08 04:04:17 of course, Iceland - but Iceland is an anomaly in so many ways anyway... be interesting to see if anyone manages to make the stuff in the UK stick at all Apr 08 04:04:29 and then there's RT saying it's a CIA plot to discredit Putin :) Apr 08 04:04:35 lol Apr 08 04:04:44 of course they would say that :D Apr 08 04:05:00 g00s: I've downloaded it... I rebuilt my home PC a couple of weeks ago, which is why I was moaning above about the SDK still only being 32-bit on Linux Apr 08 04:05:25 i thought the sdk was 64-but ELF only Apr 08 04:05:28 in other words, it won't run on my current install, which is 64-bit Apr 08 04:05:29 *bit Apr 08 04:06:17 sounds weird; a few people were saying they couldn't run it because they had 32-bit systems Apr 08 04:06:45 and google forgot mention it , or something, so they went ahead and updated stuff that kaboom Apr 08 04:07:00 and we're all like, why are you on 32 bit systems! Apr 08 04:07:05 there do seem to be some 64-bit binaries there now - the emulator, mostly, which makes sense - but things like zipalign seem to still be 32-bit Apr 08 04:07:40 the AS install failed, at least partly, because mksdcard wouldn't run Apr 08 04:07:53 oh that stupid thing Apr 08 04:08:19 well, AS asked me for SDK directory but then wouldn't let me put in the SDK dir (the text box was read only) Apr 08 04:15:09 anyway, I tried to install AS 2.0, yes Apr 08 04:19:36 sweet this emulator kicks ass Apr 08 04:19:46 setting this up on my work computer asap Apr 08 04:23:49 I still think genymotion is better Apr 08 04:29:41 well for one geny doesn't have play services right ? Apr 08 04:29:55 that would be one huge improvement already Apr 08 04:30:44 genymotion seems more responsive Apr 08 04:31:04 but good shit google. If they continue improving upon it, should be awesome Apr 08 04:31:07 about time Apr 08 04:31:08 i guess since I have Cure 2 Duo i can't use latest haxm or some shit Apr 08 04:31:24 so i'll have to see now what version of haxm i need to get Apr 08 04:31:39 waiting for the morons I work with to package the new haxm Apr 08 04:31:54 then i can use 2.0 on my work computer. few more days Apr 08 04:32:35 if I am able to int i = 0; i++ is there something similiar I can do with letters? like C goes to D? Apr 08 04:35:43 if they are chars Apr 08 04:35:45 i = 'c' ; i++ Apr 08 04:36:00 char Apr 08 04:39:01 pfn, oh ok so its just that easy.. cool cool. Apr 08 04:49:18 Demon_Jester: Remember that a char is actually a UTF-16 unit, not an actual character. (also, with Unicode the concept of "character" is rather complex). Apr 08 04:49:50 loke, I has a feeling I should've referred to it as char. Apr 08 04:50:45 Demon_Jester: Let' just put it this way: As long as the values you are working with are plain latin (a-z, pretty much). Things will work. Outside of that, just assume it won't and you'll save youself lots of pain. Apr 08 04:52:36 loke im actually working with hexadecimal, would char still work with 0-9 or what would? String? Apr 08 04:52:48 Demon_Jester: yes, that's fine. Apr 08 04:53:09 you mean a string of 0-9A-F characters? Apr 08 04:53:14 Demon_Jester: When I said latin, I should have said "plain ASCII". I.e. character codes ≤127 Apr 08 04:53:37 Leeds, yes Apr 08 04:54:16 0-9 being in order, and a-f (or A-F) being in order in two different groups is a property of ASCII, yes. Apr 08 04:54:47 Nothing says characters have to be ASCII but that is a problem exactly how often? :P Apr 08 04:55:09 alphamule: welcome to "it's daytime in Asia" Apr 08 04:55:21 (Goes to deliberely use mixture of alternative encodings for letters) Apr 08 04:55:34 Oh, F comes before e Apr 08 04:55:39 :P Apr 08 04:58:01 A: 0x41 Α: U+0391 Apr 08 04:58:26 Ａ: U+FF21 Apr 08 04:59:00 Of course if someone's feeding those types into a hex editer, they deserve the pain that results, heh. Apr 08 05:34:48 hm, does intellij 15 support git worktree ... Apr 08 05:42:31 are there docs on what xml tag can take ? Apr 08 05:42:42 is it just layout_ params basically ? Apr 08 05:44:45 I like how instant run fails more than works Apr 08 05:44:56 so now I need to press this 'play' button two times Apr 08 05:50:37 gordon_ so you think this stable was really a beta :D Apr 08 05:51:36 if I wanted to replace something at certain part of a string how would I do that? Apparently using substring, and replace are not working. Apr 08 06:56:17 is there any option to change the default tmp dir used by android studio? Apr 08 06:57:53 Anyone knows how to use SuperSLiM 0.4.13? I have set the LayoutManager and this is what my onBindViewHolder looks like[1]. The header doesn't stick. Am I missing something? [1]: https://dpaste.de/KRrj Apr 08 07:07:48 Hi #android-dev, is it possible the hardware depend libril-vendor.so files from a android 4.4 system to use in an android-5.0 system? Apr 08 07:32:29 hiya fellas Apr 08 07:38:32 did you guys try AS 2.0? Apr 08 07:38:34 pretty awesome Apr 08 07:38:51 1 second run Apr 08 07:43:25 activity is still restarted and state is lost Apr 08 07:43:52 of course Apr 08 07:44:01 it's not magic Apr 08 07:44:09 but you get that done 10x faster Apr 08 07:44:31 yes it suck less, improvement Apr 08 07:44:43 1 second, man Apr 08 07:44:50 faster than you can say run Apr 08 07:44:51 lol Apr 08 07:44:56 lost state man Apr 08 07:45:14 haha Apr 08 07:45:20 I don't think you understand that there is no other way to do it Apr 08 07:45:47 it's what you want after all, why would you run again and still be in the same state that you were in before you ran? Apr 08 07:46:02 what will happen to all the people who change code inside onCreate()? if the activity is not recreated? Apr 08 07:46:05 think bro think Apr 08 07:46:13 activate the brothink Apr 08 07:48:06 lol, how about detect those cases and restart? it's very easy Apr 08 07:48:40 very easy how? Apr 08 07:49:02 explain to me the process you think would be ideal to achieve what you're talking about (what exactly is the state you're talking about? or the scenario?) Apr 08 08:02:46 Dirty states are not always trivial to detect. Apr 08 08:03:17 Wonder how that would work in this case. Apr 08 08:04:54 you build tree/graph and if change code is accessible from onCreate, recreate Apr 08 08:08:10 Android M on Nexus and Motorola devices is horribly unstable. Apr 08 08:08:28 SystemUI just crashed after only 58 days uptime Apr 08 08:08:55 Hi there. Can someone please explain to me how to perserve dynamically created buttons? I switch from fragment to activity. In this new activity there are dynamically crated buttons upon user tap. But when user goes back to fragment and again to activity all the buttons are gone. How can I perserve dynamically created buttons? Apr 08 08:08:58 On KK and L I got 400 days uptime without issues. Apr 08 08:10:03 You can't, frojnd. Not directly. But! Apr 08 08:10:16 The activity can have a return code with return value. Apr 08 08:10:38 You can store which buttons you had created in that, and pass that value back to the activity when you start it again. Apr 08 08:11:02 Or, if it's supposed to persist over many days, store it into shared preferences Apr 08 08:11:55 justJanne: so I can store only ids? with button's names? and stuff like that withing ArrayList? Apr 08 08:12:52 I have a very strange problem Apr 08 08:13:29 the very first time I add my fragment to my activity and then I switch to another fragment from there (it's a bottom bar navigation) the onPause of that fragment isn't called Apr 08 08:13:35 after a relaunch, it's fine again Apr 08 08:14:00 I'm adding that fragment using replace() transaction Apr 08 08:14:26 justJanne: ok.. I'll put ids' and text inside json string and store that in shared preferences. I thought there was more direct way Apr 08 08:28:29 hey guys, i'm trying to make a collapsable AppBar. Here is my code: http://pastebin.com/x0EJWeLp but it doesn't collapse Apr 08 08:28:39 Can you help me? Apr 08 08:29:42 Is there anyway without rooting to replace the lockscreen? I see microsoft's for example does a lockscreen however if you have the default one enabled then you have to unlock both Apr 08 08:37:36 Bear10: nope. Welcome to Android. Apr 08 08:37:59 thanks justJanne Apr 08 08:38:36 what a shame Apr 08 08:39:38 Bear10: you can react to an unlock event if that helps Apr 08 08:39:49 * Zharf yawns Apr 08 08:40:00 hmm Apr 08 08:40:04 transformClassesWithDexForDebug takes 2 minutes in my builds \o/ Apr 08 08:41:05 also, I'm glad again I'm not using AS... the folks at work upgraded to 2.0 and found that every time they plug in a new device, the system does a clean build which takes 3-5 minutes Apr 08 08:41:34 Zharf: sadly, idea doesn't work with Android anymore >_> Apr 08 08:41:45 Latest idea 15 with Android plugin can't render layouts. Apr 08 08:41:53 "Upgrade your version of Android Studio" Apr 08 08:42:00 Fucking Google... Apr 08 08:42:42 justJanne, that happens when you're trying to render with too new tools Apr 08 08:42:58 you can change the API level it renders with from the top right of the preview screen Apr 08 08:43:08 also, why aren't you using IDEA 2016 Apr 08 08:43:16 I tried with API 23 or API 22 Apr 08 08:43:22 Eh, idea 2016 is EAP still Apr 08 08:43:28 no it's not Apr 08 08:43:35 2016.1.1 is the newest Apr 08 08:43:36 It hadn't been released in march 23 when I last tries. Apr 08 08:43:41 *tried Apr 08 08:43:47 what Apr 08 08:43:50 I even emailed jetbrains support Apr 08 08:44:15 https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download Version: 2016.1.1 Apr 08 08:44:19 Idea 16 was an EAP still at that point Apr 08 08:44:25 Released: March 31, 2016 Apr 08 08:44:38 Yeah Apr 08 08:44:40 March 31 Apr 08 08:44:54 I used it in February 20 to march 27 Apr 08 08:44:56 2016.1.0 was released before that obviously :p Apr 08 08:45:03 Obviously, 2016 wasn't out then yet Apr 08 08:45:07 yes it was Apr 08 08:45:13 No, it wasn't. Apr 08 08:46:08 I never used the EAP version and I've been using this for a month or two Apr 08 08:47:03 anyway, you can use older renderer in IDEA 15 too Apr 08 08:47:44 Nope you couldn't. Apr 08 08:47:56 I have the versions installed here, I can show you that nothing works. Apr 08 08:48:08 yes, you could, I've been doing it for the last year or two -.- Apr 08 08:49:16 You could, but it stopped working early march Apr 08 08:49:32 I know cause I had to work in it back then. Apr 08 08:50:11 http://eclipser.xmms2.org/preview.png this thing doesn't work for you? Apr 08 08:50:34 Automatically pick worst Apr 08 08:50:38 ;)) Apr 08 08:51:31 Hi #android-dev, is it possible the hardware depend libril-vendor.so files from a android 4.4 system to use in an android-5.0 system? Or maybe I'm in the wrong channel - please point me to the right chan then. Apr 08 08:52:21 silviof, #android-root might be able to help Apr 08 08:53:02 Zharf, nope. The whole subwindow is deactivate, Apr 08 08:53:13 I can't even choose another Android Version. Apr 08 08:53:25 well, I can Apr 08 08:53:28 "This Version of idea is not compatible with build Tools > 21" Apr 08 08:53:32 in IDEa 14 and IDEA 15 Apr 08 08:56:03 justJanne: I've played a little with gson and buttons and all that... and I've tested it within onSaveInstanceState and onRestoreInstanceState... all the buttons get's recreated when I change screen orientation. However when I go back to fragment and back to activity again all the buttons are gone. Where exactly should I save json string when I go from activity to fragment so when I go back from fragment to activity I can call that json string and Apr 08 08:56:41 Zharf: thx Apr 08 08:56:42 Well, either you save it into shared preferences, Apr 08 08:56:48 ah.. I think you mentioned shared preferences Apr 08 08:56:56 Or you use setResult and extra in the intention. Apr 08 08:57:00 Depends in what you want. Apr 08 08:57:16 If you want the Buttons to be there even a month later, use shared preferences Apr 08 08:57:18 justJanne: I need permanent solution as user will add/or remove them during the time period Apr 08 08:57:27 If you want them to be gone after an App restart, Apr 08 08:57:35 Use intent and setResult Apr 08 08:57:41 justJanne: thank you so much Apr 08 09:07:31 hey guys quick question lets say i have a built APK file written in native java can one just extract the apk and have access to the source code? Apr 08 09:08:03 Wow I'm just checking the android source code Apr 08 09:08:11 The repository is 100GB? Apr 08 09:09:37 bePolite: i think that is that big because is not "optimized", either way if it was you can't read it Apr 08 09:16:21 bePolite: yes. Have fun spending one or two nights on cloning and first build. Apr 08 09:17:51 does anyone know if the source code can be read if you extract files in an apk? Apr 08 09:18:15 you mean apk decompilation Apr 08 09:18:20 LOL If only you knew my internet speed Apr 08 09:18:42 eagles0513875_, it can be decompiled, but it won't be the same as original source code. Apr 08 09:18:48 ok thats good to know Apr 08 09:18:51 I live in CAmeroon man. I use and interet connection of 2mbps and it costs me $1/GB Apr 08 09:19:03 im a bit worried about something that was compiled with phonegap Apr 08 09:19:14 damn thing just wraps the apk which can be extracted and one has access to the source code Apr 08 09:19:15 ah Apr 08 09:19:26 You can just extract all JS and HTML files from that :P Apr 08 09:21:01 Hi all hope you all got the update well. Anyone knows about draganddrop fab button? there is some problem I am having when dropping dragged fab button it disappears. Apr 08 09:22:44 doesnt phonegap use obfuscator or even proguard :? Apr 08 09:23:35 jscrambler or something Apr 08 09:24:09 Ashiren: i dont know but from what i gather it does not Apr 08 09:24:14 which is something im greatly concerned about Apr 08 09:24:48 phonegap as a concept is a nice idea but correct me if im wrong you use alot of the features that each respective version of android and its respective SDK's offer Apr 08 09:25:04 tried jack for the fun of it, clean build was about a minute faster, yay... app crashes on startup because it can't find the our application class /o\ Apr 08 09:25:44 eagles0513875_: well i dont know, i use android sdk, no fancy html5 Apr 08 09:26:01 Ashiren: said app and a few others for us were coded by 3rd party Apr 08 09:26:12 now that im the first person whose in house in terms of IT admin etc Apr 08 09:26:19 i want to change that and go native java which i know how to code in Apr 08 09:26:47 http://pastebin.com/2NRPuCwh can anyone have a glimpse ? really there is surly something pretty simple I’m missing there Apr 08 09:26:50 then do it Apr 08 09:27:07 Ashiren: need approval from my superiors at first Apr 08 09:27:28 im eager to learn android coding and that seems like a great little project to do it for :) Apr 08 09:27:55 @eagles I think the advantage is you can code in one platform to many mobile. it’s better for very simple stuff Apr 08 09:28:58 sivi: yes but then 3rd party is saying an accept button is offscreen they blame it that the phone has a virus which is bull shit Apr 08 09:29:34 excuse my language. I would rather go native and integrate somethign equivalent to an MDM in this app then lose potential features that we coudl take advantage of on android Apr 08 09:30:56 my answer was as someone who really does only native.I think the biggest advantage is that you can see what’s going on more easily. Apr 08 09:31:32 sivi: sorry but this issue just pisses the living daylights out of me Apr 08 09:31:37 sivi: i get where you are coming from Apr 08 09:31:42 let me ask you this sivi Apr 08 09:31:57 is there a way one can run a background process that if the GPS on a mobile is switched off it is automatically switched back on Apr 08 09:32:10 reason im asking we have the parallels MDM which we are using as a backup tracking system for our taxi's Apr 08 09:32:33 now drivers are always switching off the gps which the MDM needs. I would like to kinda have it switched back on if it is turned off Apr 08 09:33:37 I think you can make a serivice to turn it on Apr 08 09:34:39 From android or a process from a server that switch it on automatically Apr 08 09:35:27 sivi: any thing i need to look at exactly as that would be great if that is the case Apr 08 09:36:48 don’t know sorry cannot help you more. you can send ping to the gps device and if it’s off turn it on Apr 08 09:36:56 someone could help me with my collapsable toolbar problem? Apr 08 09:38:00 sivi: how this would have to be done over a GPRS connection Apr 08 09:38:03 in otherwords 3g Apr 08 09:38:30 hi I don’t know.. sorry :) Apr 08 09:38:47 its ok Apr 08 09:46:34 There is probably a protocol to connect gps and 3g though .. Apr 08 09:47:15 sivi: will need to research and dig :) just super busy being only In house IT admin Apr 08 09:48:41 8) Apr 08 10:08:20 https://imgur.com/gallery/vqUQ5 Apr 08 10:20:30 haha Apr 08 10:20:35 nice one gordon Apr 08 10:21:11 hi! who can tell, what is the main difference between new sdk emulator and the old one? and when it's sources will be available in aosp? Apr 08 10:25:12 what parameter do I need to set on a Edittext in order to force a new row of text when the user hits the end of the wrap_content? Right now, when they reach the end the EditText expands to the full width of the screen Apr 08 10:25:39 Do I need to set a hardcoded width ? Apr 08 10:32:22 oles: too many changes to list :P Apr 08 10:36:28 gordon_, i'm mostly interested in how they could make it work much faster? and is it still a goldfish platform? Apr 08 10:49:32 hi! Apr 08 10:51:39 Is it possible to have an EditText element, then when the user have entered text and clicked "Go" for example, I would like it to be a TextView instead, so there's no blinking cursor or underline disrupting the look. Apr 08 10:51:44 where can I read more about what each of the excutables from : ndk-bundle\toolchains\arm-linux-androideabi-4.9\prebuilt\windows-x86_64\bin are doing? Apr 08 10:58:48 anyone here to point me to some documentation for all of the executables inside: ndk-bundle\toolchains\arm-linux-androideabi-4.9\prebuilt\windows-x86_64\bin ? Apr 08 11:10:21 oles: it runs in the vm Apr 08 11:10:25 so they simply fixed it Apr 08 11:11:39 https://d13yacurqjgara.cloudfront.net/users/120141/screenshots/2631199/boobs_pull_to_refresh.gif Apr 08 11:11:46 new pattern ? Apr 08 11:28:56 gordon_ that is awesome lol Apr 08 11:35:24 Hello, i've a question. Im running mEMU as Emulatur (no, i dont like BlueStacks or GenyMotion) and a connected Android DEvice. The problem seems to be that mEmu use it's own adb for communicating. Now everytime i would like to access adb for my physical device the adb bridge was killed and have to be restarted. Is there a way to run multiple instancs of ADB? Apr 08 11:36:13 misterli, adb -s Apr 08 11:36:27 oh no, sorry Apr 08 11:37:24 yeah, tried connecting via socket and/or deviceId. Doesnt work since the emulator shares the ADB Instance (and only show those) and as soon as i want to use adb for my physical device the emulator-adb get killed Apr 08 11:37:37 leads to a adb kill/restart/start loop Apr 08 11:37:48 misterli, use more recent version of adb, it should support all of the devices Apr 08 11:42:26 ok, tried adding the mEMU Binary Path to the Systen Environments before android sdk and now "adb" uses the same instance which is working Apr 08 11:44:38 im building rest service for android app in php .. how to send file to android app via http response ? Apr 08 11:45:42 Laynee: send link in string Apr 08 11:46:04 well, you can elso send base64 encoded file... Apr 08 11:46:27 convert file to bytearray and encode it via base64? Apr 08 11:46:32 and then send that in response ? Apr 08 11:46:46 you can do that Apr 08 11:46:52 but I'd just send link to file Apr 08 11:46:58 is it a picture or what ? Apr 08 11:47:01 but this flow needs file itself Apr 08 11:47:03 no Apr 08 11:47:05 its not picture Apr 08 11:47:11 its a file containing piece of code Apr 08 11:50:29 so :D ? Apr 08 11:53:52 Can I set the max length of characters of an EditText to the width of the EditText itself? Right now it varies depending on how many spaces you have in the input text, which makes it unpredictable.. Apr 08 12:04:23 someone? Apr 08 12:13:26 I am doing a circular reveal of a view using codetail library. But getting this exception in 1/5 cases. Can't find any specific solution. Apr 08 12:13:33 A/OpenGLRenderer: Error: Ambient Vertex Buffer overflow!!! used 480, total 320 Apr 08 12:13:34 A/libc: Fatal signal 6 (SIGABRT), code -6 in tid 19666 (hwuiTask1) Apr 08 12:19:00 Hi Apr 08 12:22:35 Hi all. I'm looking for a solution to have a Fragment.onBecomVisible() method. A method which is called when a Fragment is visible (/visible again). The solution must also work when the Fragment is inside a ViewPager. Any advice? Apr 08 12:23:15 Currently I use somthing with onResume and setUserVisibleHint but I have still an issue Apr 08 12:26:39 You can use onHiddenChanged() Apr 08 12:28:32 barq: ok, i'll check it out, 100% sure this will work? Apr 08 12:29:08 Nothing is ever 100% Apr 08 12:32:41 bad question, perfect answer Apr 08 12:39:06 Hi Apr 08 12:45:11 Good Morning Apr 08 12:46:42 know it's not ios channel but good presentation about things, that might be confusing https://realm.io/news/slug-andy-bartholomew-understand-monads-one-weird-trick/ Apr 08 12:50:26 Good Morning Apr 08 12:54:52 dont ever use android studio for git subtrees... Apr 08 12:57:10 Why that? Apr 08 13:04:20 When the user manually hits the "Clear cache" button in settings for my app, what exactly is cleared? Just everything in the Cache-folder, or anything else also? UserPreferences seem to be left intact...? Apr 08 13:10:47 not sure if anyone recalls, I asked a couple of days ago about specs for an android development PC Apr 08 13:11:11 RAM, RAM, and more RAM Apr 08 13:11:22 since then I made 2 wishlists.. one is an i5-6600 with 16 GB ddr 4, samsung ssd Apr 08 13:11:50 the other one, i7-6700k, 16 gb ddr and samsung ssd Apr 08 13:11:58 any should be fine for android, right ? Apr 08 13:12:12 I will use the iGPU for now Apr 08 13:12:20 yes Apr 08 13:12:34 alright, thanks Apr 08 13:12:40 will send them over to management Apr 08 13:13:28 if performance/price doesnt bother you, go for i7 :v Apr 08 13:15:00 AlexandruM, mine is a i5-3something, 4gb, with SSD Apr 08 13:15:30 it's fine, due to the SSD Apr 08 13:16:33