**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 18 02:59:58 2016 Apr 18 03:01:00 RustyShackleford: its mostly just screen sizes rather than platforms Apr 18 03:01:10 eg. ios/android sites are the same Apr 18 03:09:33 g00s: I'm assuming you saw the "I made $700k with an iOS game" story on HN? Apr 18 03:11:58 orbyt_: I'm referring to the web api's Apr 18 03:12:04 as opposed to like a mobile site Apr 18 03:12:19 think trello, twitter, etc. They have apps to go along with their website Apr 18 03:13:38 RustyShackleford: so your asking how to build something like a rest api? Apr 18 03:13:44 an API doesn't care what OS is calling it Apr 18 03:14:20 ^ Apr 18 03:24:20 Leeds no ... i mean, i saw it was there Apr 18 03:24:23 didn't read i Apr 18 03:24:25 it Apr 18 03:27:34 short form of the story is that it was a port of an existing web game, so half the profits went to the original author, then tax etc. Apr 18 03:27:51 the most interesting stuff is how featuring works in the app store Apr 18 03:28:00 so worth reading ? Apr 18 03:28:12 yeah, the original reddit post is pretty short Apr 18 03:28:30 fuck, i can't even find my own app on Play with an almost identical keyword search Apr 18 03:28:46 organic search on Play totally sucks ass Apr 18 03:29:05 One of my apps made me $45,000 Apr 18 03:29:29 hah, nobody searches for apps Apr 18 03:31:08 g00s: although if you're going to search for an app, the general Google search generally does a better job Apr 18 03:36:23 yeah Leeds that does look pretty good Apr 18 03:36:26 "Do: Release Every Six Weeks" Apr 18 03:36:55 well, i have enough features thought up - i could do that for years still :) Apr 18 03:39:46 "Do: Use New Apple Features" Apr 18 03:39:59 i'm guessing a lot of Android devs don't do that Apr 18 03:40:09 * pfn has no dreams of getting rich off writing apps solo Apr 18 03:40:13 Newest Android Features, of course Apr 18 03:41:08 I do it for the personal satisfaction Apr 18 03:41:29 using newest apple features is a lot easier than newest android features Apr 18 03:41:35 The best way to make money off mobile apps is to be employed and receive a salary to write mobile apps Apr 18 03:41:45 pretty much Apr 18 03:41:58 I've netted a shitton from working as opposed to my own stuff Apr 18 03:58:12 sorry, I keep responding and leaving Apr 18 03:58:34 so with something like rails, the web api and the website are tightly coupled Apr 18 03:58:42 what if I only want the restful api Apr 18 03:59:06 or can I make a rails web app and reuse the same api without any extra work? Apr 18 04:04:13 is rails still a thing? Apr 18 04:06:08 it is for rails people :) Apr 18 04:08:14 hey y'all ... Apr 18 04:08:15 Leeds is django still a thing? Apr 18 04:08:46 i thought all those server side templating things in dynamic languages were going to hell Apr 18 04:08:47 This is gonna be a warzone Apr 18 04:09:41 quick question, when initiating an intent ( gallery ) to choose a pic and then cancelned by the back button in the phone and the app crash, what could be the cause or solution ? Apr 18 04:09:47 there are twice as many people in #django as #android-dev :P Apr 18 04:10:09 Leeds haha, remember when there used to be like 700 people in here Apr 18 04:12:57 were there? oh, well, abandoned channel on obsolete network and all that Apr 18 04:13:24 CedricBeust: nothing personal :) Apr 18 04:19:55 Leeds: django is useful Apr 18 04:20:13 to ios and android Apr 18 04:20:32 i write my web services in django Apr 18 04:20:39 im not hip enough for node yet Apr 18 04:24:54 franchy i read all kinds of conflicting things about node Apr 18 04:25:07 ohman dont get me started lol, sorry Apr 18 04:25:12 few months back, seemed (if this was to be believed) mass exodus to Go Apr 18 04:25:25 go makes more sense Apr 18 04:25:39 What's a good benefit for node over django? Apr 18 04:25:41 but i really enjot VS Code, on electron, so I was going to give it a try. knowing full well that JS sucks and all that Apr 18 04:25:44 im working with a team thats using node.js on backend, and the damn thing breaks if i sneeze Apr 18 04:26:00 its like, they can rapidly puke out javascript quickly, but its so unstable Apr 18 04:26:03 g00s: don't believe everything - anything - you read on HN about stuff like Go Apr 18 04:26:09 I like django + DRF because I get to do REST stuff but with python inheritance and all that Apr 18 04:26:14 Can't expect much from a dynamically typed language Apr 18 04:26:23 yeah exactly yonatankoren, and the python module system is a dream Apr 18 04:27:31 yonatankoren what is DRF ? Apr 18 04:27:32 is python slower than node? Apr 18 04:27:37 g00s: Django Rest Framework Apr 18 04:27:41 ah ok Apr 18 04:27:41 Django-REST-Framework Apr 18 04:27:42 sorry should have said the full thing Apr 18 04:29:46 fellas, what is missing in this code that would prevent the app from crashing when gallery intent get canceled by the user Apr 18 04:29:49 http://paste.ofcode.org/TJTqnxnuxSmAGU93avghQc Apr 18 04:31:03 JanusJanus well for one, make sure you understand where in the lifecycle onActivityResult gets called Apr 18 04:31:09 i think its very early Apr 18 04:33:25 could you please elaborate, it get get called after clicking a button !? not sure i understood your remark ? Apr 18 04:36:54 JanusJanus: basically you need to know what part of the Activity ends up calling the method which leads to onActivityResult being called. If it is onCreate, try onCreateView or onStart instead Apr 18 04:37:21 JanusJanus: sorry onCreateView is for fragments only Apr 18 04:37:25 I'm kind of a noob Apr 18 04:38:18 invoked by a button, not within the onCreate Apr 18 04:39:04 JanusJanus: look at the stacktrace, breakpoint -> debug Apr 18 04:39:16 without any information i'd say you're getting a NPE on line 11 Apr 18 04:42:18 all right, ill check that out. but i assume within the code i post in the link there should be a condition for canceling the intent Apr 18 04:42:36 and my question how do i do that ? Apr 18 04:43:36 JanusJanus btw this is lifesaver https://github.com/xxv/android-lifecycle/blob/master/complete_android_fragment_lifecycle.png Apr 18 04:43:48 bankai_ i guess what you said make sense, i make sure that what happen, but the solution should be a snippet in the code to handle a cancel action ? Apr 18 04:46:14 g00s, appreciated, i really need material like this for a better grasp on android ... if yonatankoren is a noob, am not even qualified to lable my self close that that Apr 18 04:46:25 the result code will be RESULT_CANCELED Apr 18 04:46:47 JanusJanus putting logs on all the things can be educational :D Apr 18 04:47:02 so can breakpoints! Apr 18 04:48:10 bankai_ i guess you right !? http://paste.ofcode.org/v3D3MGU3hrLJBMVgEFTf5m Apr 18 04:48:12 lol Apr 18 04:48:57 data=null Apr 18 04:48:59 you see this happen when i am in the gallery to chooe a pic from my phone and then click back button on the phone Apr 18 04:49:40 take a closer look at your if else Apr 18 04:50:37 LOL damn exactly as you said on line 11, which is after else{ Apr 18 04:51:16 yeah i've been doing that before i even rach out to you guys, and i am sure it is in this if else statment that is missing a part to handle a cancel action ... Apr 18 04:51:56 searched around on goolge for an example on how to implement a handler on cancel but couldnt find anything about the syntax of such thing Apr 18 04:52:52 need to go back to java 101 -_- Apr 18 04:54:02 thanks Apr 18 04:54:56 I have no idea how to work with paths. There's an example of a pathview that I really like, how do I manipulate the paths so that it is turned 90 degrees clockwise? Apr 18 04:56:28 oh since it's a view I could probably just rotate it Apr 18 04:56:35 assuming that all views can be rotated Apr 18 04:58:08 \++ Apr 18 05:01:15 Guys, how do I learn to make android apps? Apr 18 05:02:14 Someone please Apr 18 05:02:50 write 1,000 bad ones Apr 18 05:03:10 yeah but what do I use to learn to make my first bad one Apr 18 05:03:22 I need a book Apr 18 05:03:26 capella, thanks Apr 18 05:03:38 g00s: Is the librarian Apr 18 05:04:12 stallmen Big Nerd Ranch one is most popular Apr 18 05:04:55 does anyone know what the difference between interstitial and rewarded interstitial based on revenue? Apr 18 05:05:10 they probably both suck :) Apr 18 05:05:15 stallmen: Do you know Java already? Apr 18 05:05:15 ads, meh Apr 18 05:05:33 stallmen: What programming languages do you know? Apr 18 05:06:00 You need java for android apps? Apr 18 05:06:11 is that the programming language they're made with? Apr 18 05:06:20 stallmen: Android applications are generally written in Java, yes. Apr 18 05:07:07 but its more like a mix of different animal parts than pure Java Apr 18 05:07:12 so should I just learn Java Apr 18 05:07:18 or give me a path Apr 18 05:07:28 what did you guys do to be able to make apps Apr 18 05:07:57 stallmen: I'd definitely recommen dyou learn Java first. Apr 18 05:08:19 OK Apr 18 05:08:23 do you recommend any pdf? Apr 18 05:08:37 docs @ oracle website Apr 18 05:08:44 they have tutorials Apr 18 05:08:47 is there a pdf of that Apr 18 05:08:57 yes Apr 18 05:09:07 sweet Apr 18 05:09:11 go Apr 18 05:09:30 thanks Apr 18 05:09:33 stallmen: This one used to be good, it probably still is: https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ Apr 18 05:09:34 god bless you Apr 18 05:11:35 stallmen after learning java, there is also the google udacity course on android Apr 18 05:11:47 ok thanks Apr 18 05:11:58 android is purely java, saying differently is just wrong Apr 18 05:12:20 are docs @ oracle website good for beginners like me? Apr 18 05:12:31 docs are always good Apr 18 05:12:46 get into the habit of reading the documentation always and you won't have any problems Apr 18 05:13:12 on the topic of docs, where the hell are the support lib 23.3 docs ? Apr 18 05:13:14 well, saying a programmer won't have any problems is like saying a car won't hit any bumps in the road Apr 18 05:13:24 or a fish won't get wet Apr 18 05:13:55 yonatankoren those flying fish ... Apr 18 05:14:41 g00s: flying pink fish in the sky is basically hybrid apps Apr 18 05:19:49 wow, Boaty McBoatface won Apr 18 05:20:02 Google should do that too , have crowdsource android name :) Apr 18 05:23:20 nougat Apr 18 05:23:21 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/java-tutorial-downloads-2005894.html Should I be downloading it for here? Sorry for the dumb question Apr 18 05:23:25 nutter butter Apr 18 05:23:37 it, as in the ebook/pdf/ Apr 18 05:23:43 not to many sweets that start with N Apr 18 05:24:26 I got the tutorial.zip Apr 18 05:24:50 I think I'm going to get the epubs instead though Apr 18 05:28:17 Jesus christ why do you hate me god Apr 18 05:29:05 i hate my life Apr 18 05:29:11 stallmen: Join ##java and type ~tutorials Apr 18 05:29:59 too late Apr 18 05:41:54 wasn't there an opposite of bringToFront, like sendToBack or something ... Apr 18 05:42:00 View.bringToFront() Apr 18 05:52:29 guess not :( Apr 18 05:53:01 have you watched android developer youtube channel videos Apr 18 05:53:02 Hey guys I have a quick question. If I wanted to make a app to handle multi clients, I would create new thread for each connected client correct? Apr 18 05:53:10 they had something on support v23 library Apr 18 05:55:23 Cleaned my project, big mistake Apr 18 05:55:35 my jniLibs folder isn't being used to add my native .so files to my apk any more Apr 18 05:55:43 :) Apr 18 05:55:43 anyone else had this issue? also happened after upgrading gradle Apr 18 05:55:45 Demon_Jester typically. i don't think there is any async I/O on android ... but i could be wrong Apr 18 05:55:58 at least no NIO.2 before N Apr 18 05:56:24 Demon_Jester: no something like threading pool is what you need Apr 18 05:56:30 g00s, from examples I have seen, it seems people used asyn to listen for incoming clients, then sent it to a thread class to handle it. Apr 18 05:56:33 to limit total number of active connections Apr 18 05:57:06 squ, Oh that is good idea. Apr 18 05:58:06 Demon_Jester: this is advice from video Apr 18 05:58:30 squ, I am lost, why you mean by that Apr 18 05:58:40 one moment, I'm searching Apr 18 05:59:12 Demon_Jester: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCmHoEY1iTM Apr 18 05:59:59 so you have a pool based not on cpu cores, but on maximum active connections (which is related to network quality I guess) Apr 18 06:00:12 squ, I mean I wont have too many connections, like 10-20, Still getting in habit of threading pool won't be bad. Apr 18 06:01:07 how much is many in your taste? Apr 18 06:02:09 squ, oh, im new to this specific area in android Apr 18 06:02:31 I'd say many connections is 10 Apr 18 06:02:51 normal is 4, minimum is 1 Apr 18 06:03:32 squ, ah i see. Apr 18 06:03:47 if it is streaming HD video, then 1 connection will be maximum Apr 18 06:05:29 squ, lets say I want to have 8 connections simultaneously, would I put 4 connections in one pool and the other 4 in second, or should I close connection on one, and then let one from "queue" join a thread pool? Apr 18 06:06:23 idk Apr 18 06:07:54 Demon_Jester: Do you even know if you can have that many simultaneous connections? Apr 18 06:13:44 recommend pdf reader Apr 18 06:23:50 morning Apr 18 06:24:53 i'm parsing youtube duration with joda-time, but on some devices it adds 3 or more hours to parsed period Apr 18 06:25:03 how to remove this shit off? Apr 18 06:26:02 using file Explorer of Android Device monitor, where can I fgind /storage/emulated/0/ ...?? Apr 18 06:27:36 mostly /mnt/sdcard or /sdcard point to it Apr 18 06:27:56 /storage/emulated/0 may be named differently on different device Apr 18 06:31:47 I found it on /mnt/shell/emulated/0/myapp Apr 18 06:31:53 does it make sense? Apr 18 06:36:44 myapp is your app? then /mnt/shell/emulated/0/ should be the storage youre looking for Apr 18 06:37:07 yes, ty :) Apr 18 06:47:38 hello. anyone have compared java vs javanano performance? Apr 18 06:48:01 JakeWharton: glad to see you here :-0 Apr 18 06:48:21 I means java vs javanano protobuf performance Apr 18 06:52:49 what for Apr 18 06:53:01 morning Apr 18 06:53:27 hi Apr 18 07:13:24 hey guys! Apr 18 07:13:57 is it a good practice to use totally custom toolbar for actionbar? with my on custom view, which can even include radio buttons or anything that you can think of? Apr 18 08:19:03 So avoiding the style guide? Apr 18 08:35:09 Hello, is it possible to create a task that will add build config fields? I cant create flavours at the moment, and I need a way to set some constants prior to compile time.... got a suggestion? Apr 18 09:44:25 hi, I uploaded a new update to production of my app and after that I start getting error -504 when trying to update the app from play store. Does anyone know why this happen and how to fix it? I was able to fix it on my device by doing a factory reset to my tablet, but I got user reports of this error happening on their devices Apr 18 09:47:18 hey, someone here using android studio with bspwm on arch linux? I can't get it working, the window is filled with white/grey or is completely invisible. Apr 18 10:58:15 in android studio, im importing a maven project, can run, but right clicking on folder give no any response, do you experience that, please help me **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 18 11:01:48 2016 Apr 18 11:02:26 Ping_2_Ur_Pong, nice to meet you again Apr 18 11:02:38 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong waves Apr 18 11:02:53 no I haven't experienced that issue jvava Apr 18 11:03:20 Ping_2_Ur_Pong, i believe Apr 18 11:04:26 is it true android development will use swift? Apr 18 11:04:38 no Apr 18 11:05:03 oh Apr 18 11:05:08 there have been no confirmed statements from google regarding this, but tbh they wouldn't until they could make a spectacle of it. Apr 18 11:07:09 Ping_2_Ur_Pong, what means tbh? Apr 18 11:07:56 that google like most large companies understands marketing is half the game. You wouldn't know that they are releasing swift support until they can market the shit out of it for everything its worth. Apr 18 11:13:55 Ping_2_Ur_Pong, i remove two maven plugins which i installed, all become ok, the plugin is maven helper. Apr 18 11:19:09 Small question: How can I crosscompile autossh for my phone? Apr 18 11:19:16 I've tried to do, but when I run ./autossg on the phone, I get: tmp-mksh: autossh: No such file or directory Apr 18 11:19:23 I'm using arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc Apr 18 11:28:23 Small question: How can I crosscompile autossh for my phone? I've tried to do, but when I run ./autossh on the phone, I get: tmp-mksh: autossh: No such file or directory. I'm using arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc. Did I something wrong? Apr 18 11:29:52 where is autossh and where you try to run it Apr 18 11:31:35 Ashiren: I try to run on an Android device ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l). Compiled on x86_64. On the device I put on /system/xbin with enough permission and root owned. I try to run it on the directory with ./ and out the directory withouto ./ and doens't work either Apr 18 11:32:06 file autossh Apr 18 11:32:06 autossh: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=fbdf2ceafaf64996f84a888546f89c7f32b0115b, not stripped Apr 18 11:33:29 well dunno Apr 18 11:33:36 also this question would fit in #android-root Apr 18 11:34:23 irc is very inactive for being a weekday Apr 18 11:37:11 its monday Apr 18 11:37:41 true Apr 18 11:37:47 Ashiren: you ever release an app on iOS? Apr 18 11:39:51 nope Apr 18 11:48:56 How can I check which UI-element is focused? I have a feeling that something has a focus and is preventing my UI from being updated. Apr 18 11:53:43 I need some help with my bitmaps. "!!! FAILED BINDER TRANSACTION !!!" is what I get when I try to display a full sized bitmap from the users gallery, which I presume is caused by the size. Is this something this method can cure: http://developer.android.com/training/displaying-bitmaps/index.html ? Apr 18 11:54:57 are you passing the bitmap (or a containing byte[] or so) through intents, services, AIDLs, etc/ Apr 18 11:55:57 Chainfire: I load with Picasso from the Uri being returned from the gallery. Apr 18 11:57:09 hmm Apr 18 11:57:22 that error is usually related to passing a large chunk of data through a place that can't take it Apr 18 11:58:17 the link you posted is certainly good material to read/follow, but I'm not sure it's related to your error Apr 18 11:58:32 Chainfire: ah now I understand what you mean, yes I do pass it through an Intent to a new activity. Apr 18 11:58:51 intents are for small chunks of data Apr 18 11:58:53 not full bitmaps Apr 18 11:58:59 binder transactions are limited to 1 MB I think Apr 18 11:59:08 try passing the Uri instead Apr 18 12:00:31 Okey. The uri isn't going to work I think, the user can press on their thumbnail picture to get to a new activity where the fullsized version is shown. So the Uri will most likely be null most of the time, if they don't enter that activity straight after selecting image from the gallery Apr 18 12:01:17 I might cache the image with Picasso and reload it from scratch when they enter the fullsized activity Apr 18 12:02:16 there are hundreds of ways to solve the issue Apr 18 12:02:31 as long as you're not passing large chunks of data through the intent ... :) Apr 18 12:03:14 Chainfire: Indeed, I'll find something. but about that link I sent. Doesn't Picasso handle that same thing with the .fit() or .centerCrop() method? Say I load a large image from the users gallery with those methods in Picasso, can it still fail with memory error? Apr 18 12:03:49 I have never used Picasso Apr 18 12:04:01 read/understand the link, then investigate how/if/when Picasso does it Apr 18 12:04:20 still, out of memory errors when loadings images are not that common anymore Apr 18 12:04:38 So my screen orientation in my manifest is set for landscape yet the GUI design of android studio displays portrait... Apr 18 12:04:38 what gives ? Apr 18 12:04:59 a few years ago, your app had just enough memory to load a full screen image twice, these days it is significantly more. so be sure to actually test it on a low memory device :P Apr 18 12:09:22 Chainfire: Thanks I will :) Apr 18 12:10:03 Is the layout preview of android studio always portrait ? Apr 18 12:12:20 Ah the third button in the preview. Apr 18 12:12:26 FYI Apr 18 12:12:33 thanks for listening. Apr 18 12:42:00 I just want to write some temporary files to the cache. So I use getCacheDir(). But on some devices (Samsung!) I get securiity exceptions- I do not have the write external storage permission. Am I doing something wrong? Apr 18 12:48:38 vedu: If I were to guess I'd say it's because samsung might implement the cache on the sd card Apr 18 12:48:59 vedu: which would be weird Apr 18 12:49:20 Maurits-: but there's a getExternalCacheDir() as well... I don't know Apr 18 12:50:01 Maurits-: I am using libraries like fresco, crashlytics- I'm sure they store files as well. But they don't fail Apr 18 12:50:29 vedu: well, I'm not saying this makes any sense at all, but security exceptions usually are not something you can do anything about Apr 18 12:51:08 vedu: or are these just generic 'permission denied' exceptions you are getting Apr 18 12:51:20 not specifically referring to the external storage write permission Apr 18 12:51:41 Maurits-: its not permission denied actually. its a security exception Apr 18 12:52:36 Maurits-: oh no. Its a read external storage permission error Apr 18 12:52:56 I think I got it. error being reported in the wrong place :( Apr 18 12:54:46 how can i find out if my intent service is running in background? (after restart of main activity) Apr 18 12:55:29 ehsanv: intent services are not meant to stay running, they're meant to do background processing of bits of data Apr 18 12:55:55 from the docs: "the service is started as needed, handles each Intent in turn using a worker thread, and stops itself when it runs out of work." Apr 18 12:56:30 Maurits-: i use intent service to monitor clipboard data and it's always run! i need to control it when my main activity somehow restarted Apr 18 12:56:50 Maurits-: or i should use Service ? Apr 18 12:56:57 yes, you should use service Apr 18 12:57:21 and/or possibly some broadcastreceiver that is called on clipboard change Apr 18 12:57:31 Maurits-: then how can i get access to my service after main restart? Apr 18 12:57:34 but that may or may not exist Apr 18 12:57:52 there is no Broadcast Receiver as i found Apr 18 12:57:56 for clipboard Apr 18 12:58:00 right, ok Apr 18 12:58:11 so you can communicate with your service through some event bus Apr 18 12:58:21 through broadcast intents Apr 18 12:58:25 Maurits-: could you point me to a doc ? Apr 18 12:58:30 or through RPC calls Apr 18 12:58:32 sure, one sec Apr 18 12:58:36 thanks Apr 18 12:58:51 http://developer.android.com/guide/components/bound-services.html Apr 18 12:59:47 but depending on what you are doing an event-based communication system might be better Apr 18 13:00:10 ie, service monitors the clipboard and broadcasts events to the activities when an update occurs Apr 18 13:00:51 (either using some library or the built-in broadcast intents as the event bus) Apr 18 13:16:20 anyone know if there is a solution for the android emulator crashing when I try to capture video? Camera is set to emulated Apr 18 13:16:37 using haxm, and the android 6.0 intel x68_64 image Apr 18 13:29:17 Hi, how i can install google play in Android Studio 2 emulator? Apr 18 13:43:11 t0th_-_: just define an AVD with the Play Services included Apr 18 13:43:21 thanks Apr 18 13:43:42 that won't give you the Play Store, of course Apr 18 13:43:58 but it will allow you to build your apps against Google's APIs Apr 18 13:46:08 How can I force a layout to be redrawn? I tried invalidate, but that only marks it for redraw. The actual update of the UI happens only when I touch the screen Apr 18 13:47:07 Also tried requestLayout without effect Apr 18 14:20:44 I finally could build it! Uploaded to GitHub: https://github.com/crushedice2000/android-arm-autossh Apr 18 14:21:11 Hi everyone! I'm trying to communicate with a TCP server using websocket but I receive each time 1006 error… Any idea? I'm using a S2 Gear Apr 18 14:24:59 Silvering: uh I'm confused. TCP and WebSockets are two totally different things Apr 18 14:25:52 WebSockets use TCP but they are in different layers of the network model Apr 18 14:27:44 tilal6991: right. My goal is to communicate with a webserver listening in a specific port. But the websocket is closed each time Apr 18 14:28:15 Can anyone please explain why for android views, the setY method just uses setTranslationY(y - mTop) ? Why isn't it just setTranslation? Or just...set mTop? Apr 18 14:28:57 Silvering: OK. So is the server listening accepting websocket connections or tcp socket connections Apr 18 14:29:52 Taios: that's what the docs say they do: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html#setY(float) Apr 18 14:30:31 I think it's a convineince method more than anything Apr 18 14:30:42 tilal6991 yep :) I just don't quite understand...y :D Apr 18 14:30:48 tilal6991: I'd like to think both. TCP for sure but I don't know about websocket :/ is there a way to check? Apr 18 14:31:20 Silvering: well you'd just have to know lol. I presumed you knew what the server is doing Apr 18 14:31:48 Taios: if you set mTop it would overwrite the original top variable and that's not the intention of that method Apr 18 14:31:59 It's not a great name for it admittedly Apr 18 14:39:41 Is there some way of applying a value to a string in the creation of my app, and have that value persist until the application is destroyed? I know this can be achieved with SharedPreferences, but it makes for too much complexity in my case. Apr 18 14:40:05 I would use that string throughout various activities in my app, if possible Apr 18 14:40:10 SharedPreferences are really really simple Apr 18 14:41:06 yeah, either sharedprefs or, if you're running everything in the same process, a singleton Apr 18 14:41:17 but that's more complex than sharedprefs Apr 18 14:41:30 hm okey. Going with preferences instead Apr 18 14:58:22 a shared preferences is simple.... Apr 18 14:58:46 but a static string works about as well Apr 18 15:17:05 Hello Apr 18 15:17:43 How can I download Android Studio 2.0 emulator manually? Apr 18 15:18:33 When Android Studio attempts to download and install it /tmp gets filled and the install fails due to lack of space Apr 18 15:19:17 make a bigger /tmp? Apr 18 15:19:36 Can someone explain if/Why Xposed should be avoided? Apr 18 15:19:51 Any ideas how, Leeds? Apr 18 15:20:07 rgb-one: unmount your too-small dedicated partition? Apr 18 15:20:16 Another idea is to unmount tmpfs Apr 18 15:20:40 but I am gonna have to edit some config file for that and reboot maybe Apr 18 15:20:52 can't do it while the system is being run Apr 18 15:21:01 because applications are using /tmp Apr 18 15:21:06 mount -o remount,size=8192M /tmp Apr 18 15:21:11 depends on how much RAM you have Apr 18 15:21:16 4GB Apr 18 15:21:18 ouch Apr 18 15:21:33 It's good enough Apr 18 15:21:33 maybe some cheating and linking Apr 18 15:21:58 so setting tmp to 4GB is a no go? Apr 18 15:22:19 unlikely Apr 18 15:22:28 hithere Apr 18 15:22:54 Ill give it a go :) Apr 18 15:23:03 take it out of your fstab and reboot, that's all you should need to do to make it part of / Apr 18 15:23:07 which hopefully is big enough Apr 18 15:23:12 if system you'll know if system goes down Apr 18 15:23:19 my searchView on smaller display on rotate and back pushes out items from ActionBar and it it even pushes out whole menu overFlow Apr 18 15:23:32 Leeds, yea it should be big enough Apr 18 15:24:07 things generally assume lots of disk space nowadays, since disk is *ridiculously* cheap Apr 18 15:24:21 I gave root 12GB Apr 18 15:24:26 about half is used Apr 18 15:24:42 I just have a single full-SSD / partition nowadays Apr 18 15:24:43 so there should be enough Apr 18 15:24:58 either 12 or 20 was given to / Apr 18 15:25:06 I don't think assigning separate partitions on a desktop makes too much sense Apr 18 15:25:13 Laptop Apr 18 15:25:28 but for recovery it is useful Apr 18 15:25:29 it looks like this A -> http://snag.gy/4vjPp.jpg; B -> http://snag.gy/PqVGW.jpg; C -> http://snag.gy/f5NG4.jpg; D -> http://snag.gy/w5GeJ.jpg; E -> http://snag.gy/sjPUz.jpg; F -> http://snag.gy/ogiWr.jpg; G -> http://snag.gy/Vrwji.jpg; H -> http://snag.gy/zlGid.jpg; I -> http://snag.gy/RJY15.jpg Apr 18 15:25:43 if your 1 partition goes down Apr 18 15:25:46 its all done Apr 18 15:25:50 but if root goes down Apr 18 15:26:01 and you have a separate home partition Apr 18 15:26:30 code is here https://github.com/sonavolob/ABIconTest Apr 18 15:26:36 you can recover content from that partition Apr 18 15:27:08 desktop as in personal machine rather than server Apr 18 15:27:22 rgb-one: you're backing up anything important anyway Apr 18 15:27:34 Whole thing with searchView happens when user click magnifier Icon; rotate; rotate back; close expanded searchView field Apr 18 15:27:42 on a server it makes some sense because you can get issues with e.g. logs filling up the disk Apr 18 15:28:16 Leeds, yea, logs can go hawire on desktop as well Apr 18 15:28:44 rgb-one: but it's less likely to be catastrophic, and you're more likely to be on hand to fix it Apr 18 15:28:44 Leeds: It is also said to improve performance, don't know how true this is but whatever Apr 18 15:29:20 Leeds: Yea, either way works Apr 18 15:30:09 Leeds: where in fstab is there reference to tmpfs? Apr 18 15:30:27 rgb-one: give me a root shell on your machine and I'll tell you Apr 18 15:30:33 hehe Apr 18 15:32:05 * Leeds afk Apr 18 15:35:31 https://backendless.com/backendless-3-0-is-released/ can someone take a look at .2 on this site? Has anyone used a mBaas standalone on their own servers? Is it exceedingly difficult for a fairly novice programmer? Apr 18 15:42:48 Hi Apr 18 15:43:46 I have created 2 activities for my app. One is the login activity and other is the afterlogin activity. So when I login, the after login activity starts and inside this activity, there is a logout button which again starts the login activity. Apr 18 15:44:23 So the problem is that due to activity stacking, if I press back after logout, the afterlogin activity is resumed. How do I prevent that? Apr 18 15:45:40 Or is there some other method for creating a login for the user? Apr 18 15:46:12 I mean login and logout both Apr 18 15:53:57 start activity for result Apr 18 15:54:07 finish if not ok Apr 18 15:59:46 When do I setAdapter(myAdapter) on a GridView, the GridView disappears and is only loaded when I touch the screen. Any ideas why this happens and how I can get the GridView to refresh immediately? Apr 18 16:00:17 because you did it wrong Apr 18 16:00:44 Probably set some size wrong Apr 18 16:01:45 How can settings the size wrong cause this issue? Apr 18 16:02:00 because the size is wrong, duh Apr 18 16:03:27 This is the layout of the GridView: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/422cde616566d32cacf55fcc37f7745b Apr 18 16:03:27 provide a self contained reproduction Apr 18 16:04:15 You'll need to show the Java code as well. Apr 18 16:06:26 The adapter https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81bdb866ed6cb25eb4bd869d6933e60e Activity https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b724816558c8543f2056ffa37c126790 and Fragment https://gist.github.com/anonymous/288e38262d55d50401f9f478b4c90cd0 Apr 18 16:07:04