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Apr 21 03:23:06 <g00s> so does the Agera thing have any special knowledge of component lifecycles ?
Apr 21 03:41:59 <g00s> hmm, if you have something like <android.support.design.widget.TabItem/> in XML, which does not need layout_height/width, AS complains but -- won't autocomplete anything at all
Apr 21 03:58:57 <b1ackcat> good evening all
Apr 21 04:06:53 <b1ackcat> I'm having some issues implementing leave-behinds in a recyclerview. Anyone have any knowledge about that?
Apr 21 04:10:03 <justJanne> Anyone heard of Google showing actual search results as ADS in the search before?
Apr 21 04:10:17 <justJanne> Or of someone buying a search ad for s product they don't own?
Apr 21 04:10:46 <loke> Good morning Android.
Apr 21 04:11:57 <loke> justJanne: I have bought ads for proeducts I don't own. I got like 100$ worth of, and the offer was expiring so I just advertised some random products I liked.
Apr 21 04:12:08 <loke> Can't remember what it was, but it was some Open Source project.
Apr 21 04:13:05 <justJanne> Ah, okay.
Apr 21 04:13:26 <justJanne> Cause we were an open source project wondering who bought ads for us.
Apr 21 04:13:32 <justJanne> Might have literally been you
Apr 21 04:15:31 <TinFury> I'm trying to use databinding... classpath 'com.android.databinding:dataBinder:1.+'
Apr 21 04:15:42 <TinFury> what is the current version.... and how can I find out for myself
Apr 21 04:15:42 <TinFury> ?
Apr 21 04:45:57 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> CedricBeust: can we have a bot
Apr 21 04:51:01 <TinFury> Anyone use data binding?
Apr 21 04:51:09 <TinFury> I'm having a hard time adding it to gradle
Apr 21 04:51:29 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong is literally reading about it right now
Apr 21 04:52:37 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> did you do android{ dataBinding{enabled = true} } ?
Apr 21 05:01:11 <CedricBeust> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: Would be nice but I don't really have the time to set one up
Apr 21 05:06:00 <TinFury> Ping_2_Ur_Pong, yea
Apr 21 05:06:10 <TinFury> TinFury, I think i kinda found the problem
Apr 21 05:06:23 <TinFury> I using gradle 2.0.0
Apr 21 05:06:37 <b1ackcat> Anyone have any suggestions as to how to hide one view behind another so that it appears when the top view is moved?
Apr 21 05:06:42 <TinFury> And it should be like 1.5.0
Apr 21 05:06:54 <TinFury> I don't know why 2.0.o wouldn't support it
Apr 21 05:07:08 <TinFury> Or why there is no documentation for implementing it in 2.0.0
Apr 21 05:15:33 <squ> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: what's data binding?
Apr 21 05:17:11 <TinFury> It's supposed reduce all that boilerplate code findviewbyid stuff
Apr 21 05:17:25 <TinFury> so you can refer to elements in your layout files directly
Apr 21 05:17:25 <squ> ok
Apr 21 05:17:35 <TinFury> :( unfortunately i can't get it to work.
Apr 21 05:17:45 <squ> not much to benefit
Apr 21 05:19:09 <TinFury> I think it would be awesome.
Apr 21 05:23:18 <svm_invictvs> If I have a touch event I have intercepted within a custom ViewGroup...
Apr 21 05:24:10 <svm_invictvs> And I wish to actually find a child view that would consume the touch event, how would I do that?
Apr 21 05:24:23 <svm_invictvs> Is there a method like, findChildInPoint() or something?
Apr 21 05:24:47 <Ashiren> make the child consume the touch event
Apr 21 05:25:05 <Ashiren> i.e setOnClickListener or setOnTouchListener
Apr 21 05:40:57 <napster> Anybody uses gradle APK split here for their production releases?
Apr 21 06:27:56 <squ> how do I report ndk bug
Apr 21 06:44:29 <min2> hi i am facing some wierd issue actually i am new to WeakReference<Callback>(callback); sometime its getting me null Callback callback = mCallbackRef.get();
Apr 21 06:44:32 <min2> i dont why..
Apr 21 06:45:10 <vegetablesalad19> Morning
Apr 21 06:45:11 <min2> http://pastebin.com/2f2C8LQ3
Apr 21 06:45:22 <vegetablesalad19> Can I use AsyncTaskLoader in Application class ?
Apr 21 06:45:46 <vegetablesalad19> I don't have SupportLoaderManager in Application class
Apr 21 06:46:30 <Ashiren> min2: do you supply callback as anonymous class
Apr 21 06:47:08 <min2> yes
Apr 21 06:47:31 <Ashiren> well then it hasnt any strong reference
Apr 21 06:47:43 <Ashiren> so WeakReference will return null
Apr 21 06:47:48 <min2> AShiren: actually at first it works but when i go back and exit from applciation and then again start this it gives me null
Apr 21 06:47:57 <min2>  Callback callback = mCallbackRef.get();
Apr 21 06:47:59 <min2> at this point
Apr 21 06:48:23 <Ashiren> oO
Apr 21 06:48:55 <min2> http://pastebin.com/0ViYp8ZK
Apr 21 06:49:06 <min2> this is the way i am invoking it
Apr 21 06:49:10 <min2> from my activity
Apr 21 06:49:58 <Ashiren> i dont know why would it work at first, but it surely would give null
Apr 21 06:50:04 <Ashiren> or maybe the gc didnt kick in yet
Apr 21 06:51:05 <min2> yeah even so strange for me.. dont know why its behaving like this..
Apr 21 06:52:08 <min2> I have only single activity in my applciation... and first time i tried this way to invoke an API
Apr 21 06:53:06 <Ashiren> vegetablesalad19: you cant. this is activity and indirectly fragment thing
Apr 21 06:59:43 <astroduck> While reading someone's code, I came across these lines (Rx) [https://dpaste.de/CGPh]. What is the flatMap exactly doing?
Apr 21 07:06:23 <CedricBeust> astroduck: it replaces an observable with the items it emits in the chain
Apr 21 07:06:44 <CedricBeust> The best way to understand flatMap is to replace it with map and see what happens
Apr 21 07:38:43 <BenSoloMobile> Hm
Apr 21 07:42:38 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong doesn't understand why you have to use Maven to use dagger
Apr 21 08:05:56 <guix> Hello, could someone download app RemoteXY ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shevauto.remotexy.free ) and tell me how they made the main menu, with pages that you can swipe, halo around the page, and drag n drop buttons between pages ? What should I search in google to learn how to do that ?
Apr 21 08:10:05 <gdrc> nice try, RemoteXY creator
Apr 21 08:11:06 <guix> yes its a nice menu but how they made it ?
Apr 21 09:04:34 <neredsenvy> Is there another way of getting subscript in TextView other than using Spanned ?
Apr 21 09:04:49 <neredsenvy> I just can't get it to not cut the subscript
Apr 21 09:05:03 <neredsenvy> when font size is >= 1.0
Apr 21 09:05:10 <Mavrik> Add padding then.
Apr 21 09:16:57 <u0> the ip setting look to be hardcoded
Apr 21 09:20:16 <neredsenvy> Mavrik, padding to the textview ?
Apr 21 09:20:29 <rudolf_> Hi
Apr 21 09:21:22 <rudolf_> I am trying to read, write a text file through my app in internal storage. The app works fine in the emulator but it does not start when I test in my phone.
Apr 21 09:21:40 <rudolf_> Do I need to do anything else for it to work on phone?
Apr 21 09:22:26 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> rudolf_: depends on the phones version and if you use PRIVATE or standard storage.  On I think L + you don't need the permission for private.
Apr 21 09:22:49 <rudolf_> Phones version? I have Galaxy Note 5 running 5.1.1
Apr 21 09:23:09 <rudolf_> The emulator uses MM however.
Apr 21 09:23:14 <rudolf_> Here is my code: http://pastebin.com/Y34ArLH8
Apr 21 09:23:38 <rudolf_> My phone does not have an external sd card.
Apr 21 09:24:05 <rudolf_> I am using this: http://developer.android.com/training/basics/data-storage/files.html
Apr 21 09:24:15 <rudolf_> The section which deals with saving files on internal storage.
Apr 21 09:24:54 <sDurgam> I am trying to exclude java files from src/main in my product flavor but the files are not getting excluded. I tried both ways by giving source code path and also package name. Can someone let me know how to exclude java files from main in my product flavor
Apr 21 09:30:16 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> rudolf_: stick closer to the document you are following when you're following a tutorial.
Apr 21 09:30:57 <rudolf_> What did I miss :(
Apr 21 09:31:44 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> Tip, when you're following a tutorial, follow it verbatim.
Apr 21 09:31:54 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong isn't going to tell you, but it is quite apparent.
Apr 21 09:32:25 <adq> rudolf_, http://imgur.com/jacoj
Apr 21 09:32:26 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> Save a File on Internal Storage
Apr 21 09:32:49 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> start there and read and follow it word for word
Apr 21 09:33:35 <rudolf_> Ok...I will try again. Btw can I get the logcat of the error when trying the app in my phone?
Apr 21 09:33:48 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> it will be in logcat
Apr 21 09:34:16 <adq> sure rudolf_, you should always watch logcat
Apr 21 09:34:25 <adq> especially if your app crashes
Apr 21 09:38:07 <rudolf_> So do I need to enable USB debugging on my phone and connect it to my PC?
Apr 21 09:38:59 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> yes and you said a samsung phone, thats a bit of a PITA
Apr 21 09:39:07 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> you have to get their tool
Apr 21 09:39:11 <rudolf_> Damn
Apr 21 09:39:32 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> also go to setting and press about like 9 times
Apr 21 09:39:40 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> it will open developer options
Apr 21 09:40:06 <rudolf_> Already did...The enable usb debugging checkbox is disabled :|
Apr 21 09:40:08 <Mavrik> sDurgam, you don't exclude them from main
Apr 21 09:40:20 <Mavrik> those are always included
Apr 21 09:40:27 <Mavrik> if you don't want them in main, move them to flavor directories
Apr 21 10:03:06 <rudolf_> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: Got the error :)
Apr 21 10:03:27 <rudolf_> On the first run, the file was not existing.
Apr 21 10:33:38 <arunL> CollapsingToolbarLayout adds or removes elevation depending on whether it's collapsed. Is there any way I can stop CTL from doing it, and keeping elevation at all times?
Apr 21 10:48:11 <neredsenvy> Is there a way to have FloatingActionButtons src (image) fill the entire button not just be in the centre ?
Apr 21 10:49:13 <arunL> CollapsingToolbarLayout adds or removes elevation depending on whether it's collapsed. Is there any way I can stop CTL from doing it, and keeping elevation at all times?
Apr 21 11:09:27 <Cooleh> Could someone please help with this error with build.gradle? https://i.gyazo.com/b21de9ebe1193da89fca7d387cb92067.png
Apr 21 11:21:32 <adq> Cooleh, remove ":" between support and -v4
Apr 21 11:21:37 <adq> ^ com.android.support:support-v4:23.3.0
Apr 21 11:23:13 <Cooleh> Thanks adq! Seems to have fixed that but got different errors now... I'll have a go at fixing these :)
Apr 21 11:28:06 <pycas> I have a linearlayout with some textviews centered
Apr 21 11:28:21 <pycas> I want to put a little image on the corner (bottom left)
Apr 21 11:28:39 <pycas> but I dont want to mess with the textviews
Apr 21 11:28:48 <pycas> is there any way to accomplish that
Apr 21 11:28:56 <pycas> ?
Apr 21 11:29:42 <pycas> basically when I put another linear layoutn to put that image the other linear moves and the textview (as obvious)
Apr 21 11:29:59 <pycas> is there any way?
Apr 21 11:34:32 <pycas> nice
Apr 21 11:34:34 <pycas> easy
Apr 21 11:34:42 <pycas> if someone wants to know
Apr 21 11:35:14 <pycas> (I never receive answers here Im wondering if its my problem and im talking to nobody)
Apr 21 11:35:25 <pycas> basically I forgot framelayout
Apr 21 11:35:43 <pycas> framelayout allows to draw others layout like a stack
Apr 21 11:36:01 <pycas> one on top of the others without messing with layouts inside
Apr 21 11:41:50 <Odaym> you can do it with relative layout
Apr 21 11:43:09 <pycas> I accomplish that with a framelayout
Apr 21 11:43:38 <Odaym> also cool
Apr 21 11:43:47 <pycas> yes
Apr 21 11:43:55 <pycas> two viable options I think
Apr 21 11:44:04 <pycas> thks any way
Apr 21 11:45:45 <FrancescoV> Hi all. Doe somebody have experience with proto + retrofit?
Apr 21 11:49:04 <sDurgam> @Mavrik: sure. Thank you.
Apr 21 11:53:27 <wyoung> FrancescoV: I have used retrofit before
Apr 21 11:53:57 <FrancescoV> wyoung, I'm developing a combination of the 2..
Apr 21 11:54:02 <wyoung> nice
Apr 21 12:11:45 <mflow> Can I send data from an activity which is in the back stack to the activity on top of the stack?
Apr 21 12:12:54 <FrancescoV> does somebody know the variant of httppost.setEntity(entity) in retrofit2?
Apr 21 12:14:00 <mflow> I want do start polling a webservice on one WebView activity, lets call it A, and then start another activity, lets call it B, and receive data updates from A to B (B is now the top of the stack)
Apr 21 12:14:26 <mflow> From http://developer.android.com/guide/components/tasks-and-back-stack.html I read that "When the current activity starts another, the new activity is pushed on the top of the stack and takes focus. The previous activity remains in the stack, but is stopped. "
Apr 21 12:15:27 <mflow> Can I prevent the system from stopping the previous activity? or I need another approach for what I'm trying to do? i.e. a service
Apr 21 12:16:22 <tilal6991> mflow: you really need to find another approach
Apr 21 12:16:35 <tilal6991> There is no non-hackish way to do what you are suggesting
Apr 21 12:17:19 <tilal6991> What you're suggesting seems perfect for a service. Also I'm not sure why you're using a webview here - surely you can just make HTTP requests if you are polling?
Apr 21 12:17:59 <mflow> some part of the UI is implemented using JS in a WebView and the polling is currently started in JS and pushed via JavaScriptInterface to Java
Apr 21 12:19:09 <tilal6991> Fun
Apr 21 12:20:04 <mflow> but if the webview activity is stopped if I start another activity, then the polling on JS also stops, so I have to implement that part in Java
Apr 21 12:20:29 <tilal6991> I would think that's the best way to do it TBH
Apr 21 12:22:26 <haspaker> I have a ~180ms roundtrip latency when playing sound via SoundPool on Android
Apr 21 12:22:43 <haspaker> According to http://superpowered.com/latency my device should have a roundtrip latency of ~30ms
Apr 21 12:23:06 <haspaker> Any ideas what I could be doing wrong to get such a high latency?
Apr 21 12:23:19 <rudolf_> tilal6991: I want my second app to be able to read the text file saved by my previous app. I know the path where the file is being saved. Will that path remain the same for all mobile or can it change?
Apr 21 12:23:36 <rudolf_> I am using internal storage and I have set the file to be readable.
Apr 21 12:24:10 <rudolf_> Sorry for tagging :|
Apr 21 12:24:38 <tilal6991> rudolf_: making assumptions of what the path is extremely bad practice
Apr 21 12:24:44 <Zharf> is there some nice animation I could use to spawn a view from a point on the screen
Apr 21 12:24:49 <Zharf> and then collapse it back to that point
Apr 21 12:25:06 <eghdk> I'm getting an IllegalStateException from my listView/adapter. "The content of the adapter has changed but ListView did not receive a notification. Make sure the content of your adapter is not modified from a background thread, but only from the UI thread." Is this serious? Can I really not add items to my ArrayList from a different thread, and then notify my ListView via callback?
Apr 21 12:25:14 <eghdk> They make it sound like it's a hard rule.
Apr 21 12:25:23 <tilal6991> eghdk: no you can't modify adapter data on a background thread
Apr 21 12:25:28 <tilal6991> It is a hard rule
Apr 21 12:25:54 <tilal6991> Zharf: do you mean something like the FAB animation in G+
Apr 21 12:26:07 <rudolf_> tilal6991: How can I make it general then so that it can work on multiple mobiles?
Apr 21 12:26:14 <Zharf> tilal6991, I don't use G+ so I don't know
Apr 21 12:26:21 <tilal6991> rudolf_: Use paths like http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Context.html#getExternalFilesDir(java.lang.String)
Apr 21 12:26:25 <tilal6991> * methods
Apr 21 12:27:01 <eghdk> tilal6991: Why does this seem like an appropriate answer? http://stackoverflow.com/a/20878262
Apr 21 12:27:48 <tilal6991> Uhhhhhh
Apr 21 12:28:16 <tilal6991> Because you are creating a new adapter everytime you are in the background?
Apr 21 12:28:27 <tilal6991> And setting it on the main thread
Apr 21 12:29:49 <rudolf_> tilal6991: The document says it is similar to getFilesDir() which I am using currently for saving my app's files. The differences which it gave are not of much significance to my app because I am writing to non removable media.
Apr 21 12:30:16 <rudolf_> So I can assume that the path will remain the same for different mobiles?
Apr 21 12:30:26 <tilal6991> You can but I wouldn't
Apr 21 12:30:36 <tilal6991> You will inevitably break some device I feel
Apr 21 12:30:42 <rudolf_> :|
Apr 21 12:31:23 <tilal6991> See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36613425/get-sd-card-path-in-android-vs-hard-coded-path
Apr 21 12:31:28 <tilal6991> And many similar threads
Apr 21 12:31:56 <rudolf_> This is how I am getting the write path:        File path = context.getFilesDir();
Apr 21 12:32:01 <rudolf_> ok...reading.
Apr 21 12:32:26 <Queenslayer> tilal6991: Didn't know you use this too
Apr 21 12:32:37 <Queenslayer> Afternoon anyway
Apr 21 12:32:46 <tilal6991> What do you mean use this?
Apr 21 12:32:51 <tilal6991> Afternoon
Apr 21 12:32:54 <Queenslayer> Sorry
Apr 21 12:33:04 <xJeremyCx> hey guys
Apr 21 12:33:05 <Queenslayer> Thought I was on #android
Apr 21 12:33:06 <Queenslayer> Lol
Apr 21 12:33:20 <Queenslayer> Hi xJeremyCx
Apr 21 12:33:27 <Zharf> tilal6991, if you're familiar with those "hey check out this new feature" popups in like google maps sometimes, they have the box and an arrow pointing somewhere, I was thinking that it might be nice to animate the popup into view so that it spawns from the pointy bit outwards :)
Apr 21 12:34:27 <xJeremyCx> I have a notification bar with a custom view(RemoteViews). The problem I'm facing is the elements of the view get expanded to fit the width of the screen
Apr 21 12:34:37 <tilal6991> Zharf: https://github.com/ozodrukh/CircularReveal?
Apr 21 12:34:40 <xJeremyCx> There are 4 ImageButtons in the view
Apr 21 12:35:13 <Zharf> tilal6991, that might work, thanks
Apr 21 12:36:12 <xJeremyCx> http://pastebin.com/j3SjDJRg here's my layout xml
Apr 21 12:39:13 <eghdk> tilal6991: So does this hold true "This illegalStateException arises when a ui thread is updating the view and another background thread changes the data again. That moment causes the IllegalStateException". So can't I just synchronize my ArrayList?
Apr 21 12:40:26 <tilal6991> You could try but: a) leads to a world of pain when some edge case comes up where synchronisation does not work perfectly. b) you slow down your UI thread because it's waiting for the background thread and that's very terrible
Apr 21 12:40:41 <tilal6991> I would *strongly* urge you to do the update on the main thread
Apr 21 12:41:13 <tilal6991> You need to deliver the notifyDataSetChanged notification quick enough and synchronised enough that the listview doesn't freak out
Apr 21 12:41:20 <tilal6991> And that's hard if not impossible
Apr 21 12:41:53 <eghdk> Adding stuff to my ArrayList a whole bunch at a time seems slow though. Hm. I guess I'll give both scenarios a shot.
Apr 21 12:42:31 <tilal6991> ArrayList is very fast on Android. It's very common to do that on the main thread
Apr 21 12:45:25 <eghdk> tilal6991: I guess... but sometimes it's hundreds of items, and one after the other is slow. I guess ArrayList has an addAll method and I could look into batching.
Apr 21 12:45:36 <eghdk> Instead of calling add individually.
Apr 21 12:46:03 <tilal6991> Yes addAll is the way to go - in any case you can do ensureCapacity
Apr 21 12:46:22 <tilal6991> So even add will be fast
Apr 21 12:46:45 <tilal6991> But addAll means the system can probably do an arrayCopy which will be extremely quick
Apr 21 12:51:14 <xJeremyCx> can anyone help me..
Apr 21 13:15:34 <vegetablesalad19> After setting imageview bitmap it gets scaled to fit center. How can i get new scaled layout size? Because imageView is still in original size, just that its bitmap content is smaller and rest of it is transparent
Apr 21 13:29:40 <Eplebit> hmm, I have a collapsingtoolbarlayout with a framelayout below it. but when the toolbar is expanded, the content of the framelayout appears below it
Apr 21 13:29:56 <Eplebit> like underneath it, so you can see it through the toolbar
Apr 21 13:30:07 <Eplebit> which looks weird... anyone knows what I'm missing?
Apr 21 13:47:09 <drose379> This means GC is taking place yes?
Apr 21 13:47:11 <drose379> :
Apr 21 13:47:13 <drose379> GC_FOR_ALLOC freed 1992K, 20% free 10427K/12924K, paused 3ms, total 3ms
Apr 21 13:48:48 <Zharf> yep
Apr 21 13:49:13 <Odaym> yea
Apr 21 13:49:37 <drose379> I have like 10 of those in a row, is that bad?
Apr 21 13:49:42 <Odaym> yea
Apr 21 13:49:42 <drose379> BTW, whats up Odaym hows it goin?
Apr 21 13:49:48 <drose379> Why is it bad
Apr 21 13:50:07 <Odaym> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzfzz50W5Uo
Apr 21 13:50:25 <Odaym> he says why, I think its clear what he's trying to conclude
Apr 21 13:50:58 <drose379> Sweet Ill check it out
Apr 21 13:51:20 <drose379> Oh actually, they are all happening like 2 mins apart, not in a row
Apr 21 13:51:22 <drose379> Is that still bad?
Apr 21 13:53:30 <Zharf> nope
Apr 21 13:53:35 <drose379> Sweet
Apr 21 13:53:43 <drose379> So its only bad when they happen a log together?
Apr 21 13:54:03 <Odaym> see the video
Apr 21 13:54:04 <Zharf> when the GC is running all the time it's a sign of need for optimization
Apr 21 13:54:19 <drose379> Ok I see
Apr 21 13:54:22 <drose379> Odaym: hows Snippet?
Apr 21 13:54:35 <Odaym> about to release a web console soon
Apr 21 13:54:40 <Odaym> so you could upload books and see them online
Apr 21 13:54:44 <Odaym> a friend joined and wrote it all
Apr 21 13:55:03 <drose379> Sweet, hows the android app doing
Apr 21 13:55:15 <Odaym> still the same, cause I got a job
Apr 21 13:55:18 <Odaym> haven't had time
Apr 21 13:56:04 <drose379> A job? Nice.. Doing software dev?
Apr 21 14:01:42 <Odaym> yea android
Apr 21 14:08:05 <mentazoom> I'm using GridLayoutmanager in recyclerviwe and it's pushit other views bwlow it down, any idea how to fix that?
Apr 21 14:15:05 <logcat> size recyclerview so it has fixed height (either dp or percentage or above views that are below and to the top), each usecase have different layouts
Apr 21 14:16:44 <TinFury> I'm having some problems with getting data binding to work
Apr 21 14:17:09 <TinFury> Docs say I need Gradle 1.5.0 and gradle syncs if I use 1.5.0
Apr 21 14:17:34 <TinFury> If I use 2.0.0 however it methods from databinder are not recognized.
Apr 21 14:17:42 <TinFury> Does anyone here use databinding?
Apr 21 14:19:48 <mflow> How can I prevent an intent for starting an activity to clear the backstack? The activity I'm trying to start is already in the backstack but not on top and has launchMode="standard"
Apr 21 14:20:08 <mflow> my intent doesn't send any flags and the backstack is cleared, why ?
Apr 21 14:23:22 <mentazoom> logcat: I don't get it :|
Apr 21 14:24:11 <pfn> mflow, be specific
Apr 21 14:24:17 <logcat> mentazoom: show layout
Apr 21 14:24:36 <pfn> any intent that originates outside the app is likely to clear the stack
Apr 21 14:26:56 <mentazoom> logcat when I expand my view then it pushes the other views below it down and they don't come back when I collapse like in linearlayoutmanager
Apr 21 14:30:20 <mflow> pfn: its from inside the app
Apr 21 14:30:29 <mflow> pfn: I am specific
Apr 21 14:30:54 <mflow> I'm just trying to open that activity and somehow it clears the backstack
Apr 21 14:31:01 <mflow> no flags, no anything special
Apr 21 14:31:16 <SuperStep> hello guys, i have relative layout with 2 element, i want set setOnClickListener, i have to use duplicateParentState or addStatesFromChildren ? and how? thanks for help
Apr 21 14:32:42 <barq> No
Apr 21 14:33:00 <barq> What do you want to set the OnClickListener on?
Apr 21 14:33:55 <SuperStep> i want set the click listener on RelativeLayout, but is not called
Apr 21 14:34:21 <SuperStep> i search on internet and i found i have to duplicate de state of the children to parent for catch the click
Apr 21 14:34:27 <SuperStep> but i not understand how
Apr 21 14:37:41 <SuperStep> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/ViewGroup.html#attr_android%3aaddStatesFromChildren
Apr 21 14:38:43 <barq> Why do you think you need that?
Apr 21 14:39:24 <barq> That's about the drawable state, not clickListening
Apr 21 14:39:56 <barq> Why not set the listener to both children?
Apr 21 14:40:23 <SuperStep> because on element is EditText and is disabled
Apr 21 14:40:39 <SuperStep> one*
Apr 21 14:41:14 <barq> Why disabled?
Apr 21 14:41:41 <SuperStep> because the user can edit only on certain case
Apr 21 14:41:57 <SuperStep> by default there is a non editable text
Apr 21 14:47:58 <barq> And you still want to have the onClickListener work on the EditText if the EditText is enabled?
Apr 21 14:48:22 <barq> starz: Why are you pming me?
Apr 21 14:50:48 <starz> I've been pming a few people, sorry I know it's bad etiquette but I don't want to share my project publicly. I also don't want to write it here as the question involves development collaboration which will fall under advertising.
Apr 21 14:51:10 <starz> Please feel free not to answer, that is perfectly fine.
Apr 21 14:51:15 <pfn> pm at random is so terribly rude
Apr 21 14:51:33 <Zharf> meh
Apr 21 14:52:08 <starz> tbh, 99% of people have been extremely kind, so quite the contrary.
Apr 21 14:52:33 <pfn> that doesn't make it not rude
Apr 21 14:52:52 <pfn> some people are gluttons for repaying rudeness with kindness
Apr 21 14:52:54 <Zharf> gee, the blue in these two devices are so vastly different colours
Apr 21 14:53:17 <starz> that is not gluttony, its human to have interest in something.
Apr 21 14:53:33 <missingno> where can I learn more about how samsungs don't support renderscript
Apr 21 14:53:41 <starz> look, im not a keyboard warrior so I wont be argueing on irc.
Apr 21 14:53:45 <pfn> google
Apr 21 14:54:47 <pfn> an interest in something not interesting isn't true, they're just trying to be polite despite your rudeness
Apr 21 14:54:49 <missingno> well can you use renderscript at all if you have to support samsung?
Apr 21 14:55:02 <pfn> you can try support renderscript
Apr 21 14:55:23 <starz> how can you know its not interesting when you have not seen it? That's more interesting.
Apr 21 14:55:26 <pfn> and Samsung does not universally miss renderscript
Apr 21 14:55:37 <missingno> hmm this s4 has not finished rebooting yet I wonder if it got softbricked
Apr 21 14:56:04 <pfn> my life isn't so boring that some unknown random guy on the Internet is purportedly interesting
Apr 21 14:56:11 <starz> feel free to check out my credentials to see if im not interesting http://www.infusedigital.net/
Apr 21 14:57:15 <starz> I wouldnt know thats your life, Im a human that loves connecting with people. I guess your enjoy your lonely life, what else can I say.
Apr 21 14:57:48 <starz> goodbye
Apr 21 14:57:58 <pfn> bye
Apr 21 14:58:14 <Zharf> I don't feel like he was being rude about it when he approached me, but whatever floats your boat
Apr 21 14:58:33 <tilal6991> It's not rudeness so much as bad etiquette
Apr 21 14:58:45 <pfn> bad etiquette is rudeness
Apr 21 14:58:57 <tilal6991> He PMed me as well. I don't particularily mind but warning is appreciated
Apr 21 14:59:08 <tilal6991> I guess. Borderline rudeness maybe
Apr 21 14:59:17 <Zharf> meh
Apr 21 14:59:31 <Zharf> on the other hand, I'm finnish, I'm not sure if there's a concept of rude for us
Apr 21 15:00:46 <Zharf> in a case of asking questions that should be asked in the channel, I tell them to ask in the channel, otherwise I might chat with whoever PMs me
Apr 21 15:01:27 <missingno> wow this thing only sometimes crashes
Apr 21 15:01:31 <ThePendulum> lately I imagine any argument with a finn to end up in me getting hydraulically pressed
Apr 21 15:01:44 <Zharf> ThePendulum, been on youtube too much?
Apr 21 15:02:21 <Zharf> if that's not a reference to the guy who breaks things with the hydraulic press, then I don't know what you mean, really :p
Apr 21 15:03:07 <tilal6991> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlbjnZbxEcI - my fav Finn
Apr 21 15:03:39 <Zharf> I don't understand
Apr 21 15:03:42 <tilal6991> And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkKli_aWi2g
Apr 21 15:03:59 <Zharf> oh, sound was relevant
Apr 21 15:04:33 <ThePendulum> Zharf: it was, my bad
Apr 21 15:04:39 <Zharf> too immersed in listening to The 十本刀:修羅(志々雄真実のテーマ)~百識の方治~大鎌の鎌足~心は傷つき過ぎて(明王の安慈のテーマ)~飛翔の蝙也~怒るぞ(刀 狩の張のテーマ)~丸鬼の夷腕坊~破軍の才槌&不二~心眼(心眼の宇水のテーマ)~夜伽の由美~あるがままで(瀬田宗次郎のテーマ)
Apr 21 15:04:40 <tilal6991> Lol yeah he tells his team to leave him alone because he knows what he's doing
Apr 21 15:04:44 <tilal6991> :D
Apr 21 15:04:48 <tilal6991> <3 Kimi
Apr 21 15:06:35 <g00s> good morning Vietnam !
Apr 21 15:15:48 <hoodedfigure> Hey, can you directly access the libraries bundled inside the apk under /lib?
Apr 21 15:18:42 <Mavrik> hoodedfigure, what do you mean by "directly"?
Apr 21 15:20:11 <pfn> extractNativeLibs=false
Apr 21 15:20:14 <pfn> I'm guessing
Apr 21 15:20:15 <hoodedfigure> Mavrik, I need to get the path of <apk>/lib/my_libs
Apr 21 15:21:45 <pfn> no, you don't
Apr 21 15:22:13 <Mavrik> hoodedfigure, not directly no
Apr 21 15:22:26 <Mavrik> Neither does that requirement make much sense, what are you trying to do? :/
Apr 21 15:22:57 <hoodedfigure> Mavrik, I am porting an app to Android that scans a dir for plugins
Apr 21 15:23:16 <Mavrik> hmm
Apr 21 15:23:30 <hoodedfigure> Mavrik, the easiest way would be pointing to the my_libs dir
Apr 21 15:24:02 <Mavrik> well, first of all your structure is /lib/<arch>/
Apr 21 15:24:20 <Mavrik> and your /lib/<arch>/ is automatically unpacked into your files/lib directory
Apr 21 15:24:23 <Mavrik> so you could scan that
Apr 21 15:24:39 <Mavrik> even though that path may change in any Android version
Apr 21 15:25:21 <hoodedfigure> Mavrik, that's why I am looking for an Android API to point me to the dir
Apr 21 15:25:57 <hoodedfigure> and it's actually not in lib/<arch>
Apr 21 15:26:14 <pfn> native lib plugins?
Apr 21 15:26:14 <Mavrik> It has to be.
Apr 21 15:26:21 <Mavrik> Or you have broken structure of APK
Apr 21 15:26:22 <hoodedfigure> the default libs are there
Apr 21 15:26:25 <pfn> you can't do any other way
Apr 21 15:26:45 <pfn> do it right
Apr 21 15:26:51 <hoodedfigure> provided I put the libs there, I still needed to get the path
Apr 21 15:27:24 <pfn> you don't put them there
Apr 21 15:27:28 <pfn> put them in assets
Apr 21 15:27:40 <pfn> or in the correct arch location
Apr 21 15:28:22 <Mavrik> Yes, you can add them to assets and unpack them yourself.
Apr 21 15:28:29 <Mavrik> Of course, you'll have to handle arch properly.
Apr 21 15:28:32 <hoodedfigure> pfn, it can't be loaded from assets. probably a SELinux restriction
Apr 21 15:28:38 <Mavrik> Hence why using the Android unpacker is usually easier.
Apr 21 15:28:50 <Mavrik> Of course it can't be loaded from assets, you can't load .sos from a ZIP file
Apr 21 15:28:58 <Mavrik> You can unpack them from assets and load them then.
Apr 21 15:29:55 <hoodedfigure> Mavrik, I'm gonna evaluate that. Maybe I can set SELinux flags, too
Apr 21 15:30:20 <Mavrik> I hope not.
Apr 21 15:35:01 <nautwaut> is dagger a must when using mvp?
Apr 21 15:38:55 <pfn> Mavrik, the platform has some support for loading so directly from apk
Apr 21 15:39:18 <Mavrik> Hmf, since when?
Apr 21 15:39:19 <pfn> Mavrik, see extractNativeLibs new in api 21 or so
Apr 21 15:39:32 <Mavrik> Ah, didn't see that.
Apr 21 15:39:39 <pfn> but no build tool supports it
Apr 21 15:39:40 <pfn> ...
Apr 21 15:45:30 <pfn> Mavrik, https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=172630
Apr 21 15:46:30 <Mavrik> Ah.
Apr 21 15:46:38 <Mavrik> Having libs uncompressed is a huge hit tho.
Apr 21 15:48:49 <missingno> how do I measure inflate without using the profiler
Apr 21 15:48:58 <missingno> this layout took 1400ms to inflate with the profiler
Apr 21 15:49:07 <missingno> but without it the performance seems acceptable
Apr 21 15:49:47 <rudolf_> Why am I getting "Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Attempt to invoke virtual method 'void android.widget.Button.setText(java.lang.CharSequence)' on a null object reference" in http://pastebin.com/bS0wL4k2
Apr 21 15:50:16 <rudolf_> I am starting this activity from the options menu of another activity.
Apr 21 15:50:20 <missingno> guess I have to use my own logging and subtract timestamps or something
Apr 21 15:50:45 <haspaker> Do webaudio on android support the fast low latency playback they talk about here? https://source.android.com/devices/audio/latency_design.html
Apr 21 15:50:47 <rudolf_> I am getting NullPointerException on any method that I call on the elements of this activity.
Apr 21 15:51:06 <pfn> Mavrik, only for download though
Apr 21 15:51:22 <rudolf_> And this code is working fine if I run in in a separate project.
Apr 21 15:51:26 <pfn> Mavrik, APK splits take care of the rest
Apr 21 15:51:55 <haspaker> Apprently some playback does not, so webaudio in the browser might be excepted. I have googled a lot but not found any answers.
Apr 21 15:57:45 <rudolf_> Can anyone help me on this please? I am stuck on this since hours.
Apr 21 15:59:16 <spudowiar> rudolf_: your button is null
Apr 21 15:59:22 <spudowiar> rudolf_: are you using getView?
Apr 21 15:59:42 <spudowiar> rudolf_: we'll need some code
Apr 21 15:59:48 <spudowiar> rudolf_: scrap that lol
Apr 21 15:59:54 <rudolf_> http://pastebin.com/bS0wL4k2
Apr 21 16:00:11 <rudolf_> Some other code?
Apr 21 16:00:19 <spudowiar> rudolf_: can we have activity_main.xml?
Apr 21 16:00:26 <rudolf_> Yes :) wait
Apr 21 16:02:00 <hoodedfigure> Mavrik, pfn, I gotta go. Thanks for your help :)
Apr 21 16:02:40 <hoodedfigure> bye
Apr 21 16:03:10 <rudolf_> spudowiar: This is the lyaout where I am getting error: http://pastebin.com/XUmTyCGi
Apr 21 16:03:21 <rudolf_> Fragement layout: http://pastebin.com/sbW4dwsT
Apr 21 16:03:45 <rudolf_> And this is the activity layout of the fragment: http://pastebin.com/NubRUQJR
Apr 21 16:04:19 <spudowiar> rudolf_: sorry, man, I've got work to do at the moment
Apr 21 16:04:32 <rudolf_> Ok
Apr 21 16:09:52 <rudolf_> This is the project structure, if anyone is seeing the code: http://imgur.com/Yly1quv
Apr 21 16:13:07 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> rudolf_: you need to learn to debug your own problems.  Take the issues that you are experiencing and toss them at google until you hit something that seems like your scenario, try the solutions, rinse repeat.
Apr 21 16:13:49 <rudolf_> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: I tried everywhere...then only I came here :(
Apr 21 16:14:29 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> then you need to buff your googling skills, nothing you are doing is advanced, the answers exist on the web, you just have to know how to find them.
Apr 21 16:20:22 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> tip for when googling, less is more.  Less information is better than more information.  ie...  NullPointerexception activity android is ideal.
Apr 21 16:21:32 <tilal6991> rudolf_: uh I'm not even sure what you're doing
Apr 21 16:21:44 <tilal6991> Why are you trying to get the view from inside the list view?
Apr 21 16:22:56 <tilal6991> But Ping_2_Ur_Pong is absolutely right. Asking someone else how to fix these issues is not a scalable solution
Apr 21 16:23:31 <rudolf_> tilal6991: Yeah I know...I googled but I could not find.
Apr 21 16:23:40 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong thinks of the guy that was working at 4 companies and hired people in China to do his work.
Apr 21 16:23:42 <rudolf_> Which line are you talking about?
Apr 21 16:23:54 <tilal6991> Well to me none of your code makes sense
Apr 21 16:24:03 <tilal6991> Where are you adding an adapter to the viewpager?
Apr 21 16:24:41 <rudolf_> tilal6991: http://pastebin.com/bS0wL4k2 is for http://pastebin.com/XUmTyCGi layout
Apr 21 16:24:53 <tilal6991> Yes I get that lol
Apr 21 16:25:07 <tilal6991> The code there does not have you adding an adapter to the viewpager
Apr 21 16:25:07 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> rudolf_: if I were to give you one tip, it would be go do a shitton of reading and watching videos about android and then come back to coding, go on github and look at code.  JakeWharton has a great app u2020 that will show you many patterns in android. grab it from github and study it.
Apr 21 16:25:28 <tilal6991> ^
Apr 21 16:25:48 <rudolf_> I did not upload the code where I am adding adapter to view pager. The problem started after adding this new code.
Apr 21 16:26:11 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> you are building like a retarded 3rd grader, by just putting all the pieces together, not understanding how or when you should use xyz.  You should step back and get a better higher level understanding before lower level.
Apr 21 16:26:23 <rudolf_> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: ok
Apr 21 16:27:33 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong blames freenode for his bluntness.  He was once a nice person.
Apr 21 16:28:00 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> Though, I don't think I was being a dick, is it worse to ignore someone and let them flounder or be blunt and point them in the right direction?
Apr 21 16:28:59 <rudolf_> It is fine :) I watch a lot of videos whenever I get time.
Apr 21 16:29:32 <rudolf_> and ready tutorials.
Apr 21 16:29:34 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> go through offical channels or recognized experts.
Apr 21 16:30:05 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> ie... don't watch toms awesome video on Android development.  Tom is a dumbass that pretty much googled the video so he could get views.
Apr 21 16:31:28 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> if you want a great understanding with a deep dive in information.  Listen to the Android Developer Backstage podcast, fragmented is also great.
Apr 21 16:31:45 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> I would highly recommend fragmented, no offense but your code makes me want to drown a kitten.
Apr 21 16:31:48 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: but when I was in the equivalent of third grade, I could code well :P
Apr 21 16:32:05 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: don't discriminate against dem third graders :P
Apr 21 16:32:30 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong used to say the same thing, he wrote the best game in third grade it even worked too.
Apr 21 16:32:46 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: I'm 13 and I can code pretty well
Apr 21 16:32:57 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: my code is very well structured and modularized
Apr 21 16:33:07 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: and I tend to *think* I understand what I'm using :P
Apr 21 16:33:14 <rudolf_> Ok...don't make fun now :|
Apr 21 16:33:27 <spudowiar> rudolf_: make fun of who? I'm really 13
Apr 21 16:33:46 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> spudowiar: then you have learned from others.  You have learned rule 1 of being intelligent, that smart people learn from other smart people.
Apr 21 16:33:53 <rudolf_> ok
Apr 21 16:34:12 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: I agree
Apr 21 16:34:23 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: I like to learn from others and like to teach others too
Apr 21 16:34:42 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> dude, if you're talking to me and I am paying attention no need to nick alert.
Apr 21 16:34:52 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong hears a *ping* sound everytime you do
Apr 21 16:35:23 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pon​g: better?
Apr 21 16:35:46 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pon​g: I just find it's easier to always mention the person you are talking to on IRC
Apr 21 16:35:55 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pon​g: just so conversations don't get mixed up
Apr 21 16:37:58 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: lol, you aren't replying now :)
Apr 21 16:38:07 <rudolf_> He put you on ignore :P
Apr 21 16:38:08 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong was busy
Apr 21 16:38:20 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong is at work
Apr 21 16:38:23 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: okey
Apr 21 16:38:27 <pfn> Ping_2_Ur_Pong,
Apr 21 16:38:27 <pfn> Ping_2_Ur_Pong,
Apr 21 16:38:28 <pfn> Ping_2_Ur_Pong,
Apr 21 16:38:29 <pfn> :)
Apr 21 16:38:50 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong prepares to write a script that nick alerts pfn every 10 mins
Apr 21 16:38:59 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pon​g: anyway, I'm at that stage where I work for other people :P
Apr 21 16:39:05 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pon​g: get paid moneyz
Apr 21 16:41:10 <tilal6991> spudowiar: for a 13 year old can you legally enter employment contracts?
Apr 21 16:41:25 <spudowiar> tilal6991: it's mainly freelancing
Apr 21 16:41:44 <tilal6991> I remember those days
Apr 21 16:41:49 <tilal6991> Good times
Apr 21 16:43:09 <tilal6991> TBH though I wouldn't rush into entering freelancing
Apr 21 16:43:21 <tilal6991> Doing work for other people is never as fun as messing around with programming yourself
Apr 21 16:43:31 <spudowiar> tilal6991: nah, it's still interesting
Apr 21 16:43:53 <tilal6991> Fair enough
Apr 21 16:44:03 <tilal6991> Having done both I definitely prefer writing my own code
Apr 21 16:44:23 <rudolf_> ok...I agree. The mistake was very stupid.
Apr 21 16:44:23 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I'm looking at https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/4fkyve/openbox_i_see_your_desktop_from_when_you_were_12/ on Reddit, they got so much karma cos they are 12 - maybe I should repost mine :P!
Apr 21 16:44:47 <tilal6991> Haha my brother uses i3 on Arch and he's 13 1/2 lol
Apr 21 16:45:08 <spudowiar> tilal6991: SNAP
Apr 21 16:45:17 <pfn> tilal6991, you don't get working for yourself  :P
Apr 21 16:45:29 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I love i3 on Arch
Apr 21 16:45:39 <spudowiar> tilal6991: but I've been using Linux since 5 :P
Apr 21 16:45:44 <tilal6991> Yeah I do as well - i3 + arch is golden
Apr 21 16:45:44 <spudowiar> Debian 4.0!
Apr 21 16:45:55 <tilal6991> Ubuntu Feisty for me
Apr 21 16:46:03 <tilal6991> Started when I was around 11
Apr 21 16:46:07 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I tried Ubuntu and it made me hate Linux
Apr 21 16:46:23 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I liked the power Debian gave me
Apr 21 16:46:27 <tilal6991> Meh I didn't mind
Apr 21 16:46:33 <spudowiar> tilal6991: a few weeks ago, I learnt that Debian had an installer
Apr 21 16:46:43 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I was totally like :O
Apr 21 16:46:51 <tilal6991> Loved arch as soon as I tried it tho
Apr 21 16:47:11 <s73v3r> ubuntu is more or less debian, though
Apr 21 16:47:40 <spudowiar> s73v3r: not enough powa :(
Apr 21 16:47:52 <spudowiar> s73v3r: I didn't realise there was an installer for Debian anyway
Apr 21 16:48:04 <s73v3r> that statement makes absolutely no sense
Apr 21 16:48:10 <s73v3r> it’s linux. you can install whatever you want
Apr 21 16:48:37 <spudowiar> s73v3r: it's not what you install, it's what you start off with
Apr 21 16:48:43 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> he means package manager
Apr 21 16:48:52 <s73v3r> what you start out with doesn’t matter
Apr 21 16:48:55 <tilal6991> I'll be honest PPAs seemed amazing back in the day. Now I can't stand the concept
Apr 21 16:49:01 <spudowiar> s73v3r: it does matter
Apr 21 16:49:11 <spudowiar> s73v3r: why do I want to spend ages removing everything from my system?
Apr 21 16:49:18 <tilal6991> It doesn't TBH but it is a pain to remove everything
Apr 21 16:49:21 <spudowiar> s73v3r: I was 5 years old, I had *NO* patience
Apr 21 16:49:23 <s73v3r> no, it doesn’t. not when whatever you want is an apt-get away
Apr 21 16:49:30 <tilal6991> Plus Arch pacakagement system >>>>>> Apt
Apr 21 16:50:04 <spudowiar> s73v3r: I don't think you get me. I have OCD and any package I'm not using shouldn't be on a system IMO
Apr 21 16:50:12 <s73v3r> you do not have OCD
Apr 21 16:50:41 <spudowiar> TIL that s73v3r knows me better than I do XD
Apr 21 16:53:32 <bhargavgolla> I have questions with verification of response part in Google Safetynet API (http://developer.android.com/training/safetynet/index.html#verify-compat-check) . If I want to do this manually on my server instead of sending response to Google, do I have to store Google's certificates and keep updating them on my server? Can anyone help?
Apr 21 16:58:21 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: who means package manager?
Apr 21 16:59:12 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> I presumed you meant package manager.
Apr 21 16:59:27 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: nope, installer
Apr 21 16:59:28 <s73v3r> spudowiar: I’ve known people with OCD. Idiots who complain about an extra package on their system are not OCD
Apr 21 16:59:42 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: I used debootstrap for it
Apr 21 16:59:52 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: then a few weeks ago, someone told me there is an official installer
Apr 21 17:00:06 <spudowiar> s73v3r: observational bias
Apr 21 17:00:13 <s73v3r> no, it’s not
Apr 21 17:00:32 <s73v3r> it’s knowing that 90% of the people who say, “I’m so OCD, lol” have no idea what OCD really is
Apr 21 17:01:04 <spudowiar> s73v3r: so you know better than the diagnosis I have of Autism and OCD?
Apr 21 17:01:13 <spudowiar> if you say so...
Apr 21 17:02:10 <missingno> latest in my samsung renderscript adventures - hard freeze on 5.0 s5, works fine on a 5.1 s5
Apr 21 17:02:11 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> are hipsters *read as dumbasses* actually happy to be OCD and have autism?
Apr 21 17:02:42 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: is that aimed at me?
Apr 21 17:04:13 <taub> someone got a good light theme that works with api level 14
Apr 21 17:04:19 <taub> and a doc to go along with it :x
Apr 21 17:14:08 <pfn> appcompat
Apr 21 17:18:14 <tilal6991> taub: ^
Apr 21 17:21:15 <taub> k
Apr 21 17:21:51 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: was that comment aimed at me?
Apr 21 17:25:11 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> spudowiar: huh?
Apr 21 17:25:31 <spudowiar> <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> are hipsters *read as dumbasses* actually happy to be OCD and have autism?
Apr 21 17:25:36 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> ohh the hipster thing... dude take what I say with a grain of salt.
Apr 21 17:25:45 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: but was it aimed at me?
Apr 21 17:25:46 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong defaults to asshole
Apr 21 17:25:53 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> not particularly
Apr 21 17:26:31 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: but I wasn't showing off about it, I was just saying I have it
Apr 21 17:26:37 <spudowiar> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: I don't like having it
Apr 21 17:28:27 <explodes> PSA: Wootric's Android "SDK" sucks a lot
Apr 21 17:28:41 <spudowiar> I wish Chainfire would open source his apps :(
Apr 21 17:29:55 <tilal6991> explodes: lol wow
Apr 21 17:30:05 <tilal6991> Someone marketting a library claimed as "Android SDK"
Apr 21 17:30:05 <tilal6991> Wow
Apr 21 17:30:15 <tilal6991> * marketing
Apr 21 17:30:43 <spudowiar> tilal6991: you can't do that, it's copyright breach
Apr 21 17:30:48 <spudowiar> tilal6991: you have to say "SDK for Android"
Apr 21 17:30:59 <tilal6991> To be fair that is what they say
Apr 21 17:30:59 <tilal6991> https://github.com/Wootric/WootricSDK-Android
Apr 21 17:31:11 <tilal6991> Their artefact id is androidsdk tho
Apr 21 17:31:27 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I dunno about that, I ain't no lawyer :P
Apr 21 17:31:28 <explodes> Please make that a Github issue
Apr 21 17:32:34 <s73v3r> technically Google doesn’t have to let them use the Android trademark at all
Apr 21 17:33:30 <s73v3r> looks like they changed the artifact
Apr 21 17:34:09 <tilal6991> Yeh their maven one is slightly different
Apr 21 17:34:32 <spudowiar> s73v3r: anyone can say "for Android"
Apr 21 17:34:40 <spudowiar> s73v3r: no-one but Google can say "Android ..."
Apr 21 17:34:45 <spudowiar> (or their licensees)
Apr 21 17:34:53 <spudowiar> licenser? or licensee? hmm
Apr 21 17:34:55 <spudowiar> idk
Apr 21 17:36:41 <explodes> My App is called "Google for Android", is that ok?
Apr 21 17:36:54 <explodes> It used my "Google for Android SDK"
Apr 21 17:37:23 <oats> explodes: wait, where's this app of yours?
Apr 21 17:37:41 <explodes> google.com/android
Apr 21 17:37:53 <tilal6991> Lol troll is strong
Apr 21 17:37:55 <explodes> I'm kidding, actually, that's kind of a real app
Apr 21 17:38:07 <explodes> The "Google" app is installed on most phones
Apr 21 17:39:20 <g00s> standalone sdk download still 24.4.1 ... come on google
Apr 21 17:39:44 <g00s> i get the impression a lot of stuff at google is adhoc, and people just keep forgetting pieces of the process
Apr 21 17:39:55 <g00s> like updating d.android.com for new classes in support lib 23.3
Apr 21 17:39:57 <tilal6991> And you're right lol
Apr 21 17:40:12 <g00s> try to find BottomSheetDialogFragment or whatever it is
Apr 21 17:42:02 <g00s> tilal6991 i didn't agree much with CMM, but sounds like CMM level 1 or something :FD
Apr 21 17:42:05 <oats> Chainfire: why is supersu not open source?
Apr 21 17:42:28 <s73v3r> because they didn’t want it to be. simple as taht
Apr 21 17:42:55 <oats> but that doesn't answer my question.
Apr 21 17:43:00 <s73v3r> but it does
Apr 21 17:43:17 <spudowiar> s73v3r is a troll, ignore him
Apr 21 17:43:21 <spudowiar> or her
Apr 21 17:43:33 <s73v3r> yeah, no.
Apr 21 17:43:35 <tilal6991> Lol but in this case s73v3r is absolutely right
Apr 21 17:43:54 <tilal6991> It's totally an author's decision wheter or not to open source code
Apr 21 17:44:11 <oats> duh
Apr 21 17:44:16 <oats> I know it's their decision
Apr 21 17:44:22 <oats> and I'm wondering why Chainfire made his
Apr 21 17:44:25 <spudowiar> tilal6991: yeah, ik, but I was just wondering the the reason why
Apr 21 17:46:25 <s73v3r> because they don’t want it open source
Apr 21 17:46:37 <spudowiar> s73v3r: shut up.
Apr 21 17:46:43 <spudowiar> fucktard.
Apr 21 17:46:52 <tilal6991> oats: because ATM he doesn't own it
Apr 21 17:47:00 <tilal6991> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66360462&postcount=10500
Apr 21 17:47:08 <oats> spudowiar, don't be a dick
Apr 21 17:47:11 <spudowiar> tilal6991: why didn't he in the first place?
Apr 21 17:47:12 <s73v3r> be angry all you want, but that was likely how the decision went down
Apr 21 17:47:21 <tilal6991> It could be any number of things
Apr 21 17:47:21 <spudowiar> oats: he's been annoying me before
Apr 21 17:47:29 <s73v3r> why isn’t anything else open source?
Apr 21 17:47:31 <spudowiar> tilal6991: that's what I want to ask him
Apr 21 17:47:38 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I'm allowed to ask, aren't I?
Apr 21 17:47:41 <tilal6991> He needed the money would be my guess
Apr 21 17:47:44 <tilal6991> Ofc feel free
Apr 21 17:47:53 <s73v3r> you are allowed to ask. we gave you the likely answer
Apr 21 17:48:47 <spudowiar> tilal6991: I'm wondering why he didn't open source it from the start
Apr 21 17:48:48 <mentazoom> I'm using GridLayoutManager in RecyclerView and when expanding a view the views below it obviously get's pushed down but the problem is that when I expand my view the views don't come back up like with LinearlayoutManager
Apr 21 17:49:01 <tilal6991> spudowiar: [18:47:41] <tilal6991> He needed the money would be my guess
Apr 21 17:49:13 <spudowiar> tilal6991: what do you mean? the Paid version?
Apr 21 17:49:15 <tilal6991> Yes
Apr 21 17:49:19 <oats> s73v3r: dude, not angry. just honestly curious
Apr 21 17:49:24 <mentazoom> I mean when I collapse the view then the views below don't come back as it does with LinearlayoutManager
Apr 21 17:49:25 <spudowiar> tilal6991: he has a PseudoPro option, IIRC
Apr 21 17:49:35 <spudowiar> tilal6991: so you get Pro features without paying for it
Apr 21 17:49:41 <spudowiar> tilal6991: so that's not the logic behind it
Apr 21 17:50:03 <s73v3r> oats: i meant spudowiar. there likely isn’t much more to the decision other than they didn’t want to open source it. but he’s acting like there has to be some huge mystical meaning behind it
Apr 21 18:04:30 <ghostD0g> hi folks assume R.string.pref_key is = "something",  why would ListPreference listPreferenceCategory = (ListPreference) findPreference(getString(R.string.pref_key)); be equal to Null ?  i realize findPreference is depreciated ... but still is suposed to work ?
Apr 21 18:06:36 <tilal6991> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/preference/PreferenceGroup.html - findPreference doesn't seem to be deprecated
Apr 21 18:07:11 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: in any case have you checked that you actually do have a list preference with that id in your heirarchy?
Apr 21 18:07:50 <g00s> https://events.google.com/io2016/schedule#day1
Apr 21 18:07:56 <tilal6991> Oh you're calling it in a preferenceactivity in which case it is deprecated lol
Apr 21 18:08:19 <tilal6991> "Glide: Easy and efficient image loading for Android" - how many times have they given this talk?
Apr 21 18:08:24 <ghostD0g> hmm weird i was just gonna say http://developer.android.com/reference/android/preference/PreferenceActivity.html
Apr 21 18:08:48 <tilal6991> "Building the Google I/O Web App: Launching a Progressive Web App on Google.com" - yay
Apr 21 18:08:50 <ghostD0g> how do i check ?
Apr 21 18:08:54 <g00s> "Discover the expanded material design motion guidelines" - can't wait to discover them in the support library :)
Apr 21 18:08:55 <tilal6991> That'll involve some of the stuff I built :P
Apr 21 18:09:17 <tilal6991> "What the Fragment?" - wow
Apr 21 18:09:19 <tilal6991> This talk
Apr 21 18:09:20 <tilal6991> Can't wait
Apr 21 18:09:47 <ghostD0g> i do have the string in my strings.xml so ?
Apr 21 18:10:00 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: not in strings
Apr 21 18:10:05 <tilal6991> I mean in your prefs xml file
Apr 21 18:10:17 <ghostD0g> strings.xml
Apr 21 18:10:21 <ghostD0g> hmm
Apr 21 18:10:38 <tilal6991> No lol I mean the thing you pass to addPreferencesFromResource
Apr 21 18:10:48 <tilal6991> "Google SDKs for Android: A tech deep dive" - sounds fun
Apr 21 18:10:59 <g00s> tilal6991 my favorites are always the Fireside chats ... hopefully some dumbass won't waste out time with enum question though
Apr 21 18:11:00 <tilal6991> Fun fact - did you guys know the View class in Android is over 20000 lines long
Apr 21 18:11:31 <ghostD0g> pref.xml i dont have that at all .. and i am not calling it any way
Apr 21 18:11:33 <tilal6991> Much OO design. Such composition.
Apr 21 18:11:51 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: uhhhhhhhhhhhhh then findPreferece won't work lol
Apr 21 18:12:02 <tilal6991> It's finding the preference object from that hierarchy
Apr 21 18:12:08 <g00s> tilal6991 fun fact - the View javadoc is like 211 pages long
Apr 21 18:12:12 <ghostD0g> ListPreference listPreferenceCategory = (ListPreference) findPreference(getString(R.string.pref_key));
Apr 21 18:12:19 <Pyuruku> to be fair, there are a bunch of "gotcha"s with glide tilal6991
Apr 21 18:12:23 <ghostD0g> i was tellin it to look in strings
Apr 21 18:12:25 <g00s> that class sounds like a nightmare to work on
Apr 21 18:12:28 <s73v3r> g00s: I do hope someone keeps asking about Android gaining parity with regular Java, though
Apr 21 18:12:42 <s73v3r> maybe about other languages, like Swift, being given first class support
Apr 21 18:12:50 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: I think you need to look at how preference activity is supposed to work
Apr 21 18:12:56 <g00s> haha, yeah Swift question for fun of it :D
Apr 21 18:13:35 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/settings.html
Apr 21 18:13:42 <tilal6991> You need to use addPreferencesFromResource to add the prefs you want
Apr 21 18:13:48 <ghostD0g> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/preference/PreferenceActivity.html
Apr 21 18:13:52 <tilal6991> Lol pls no swift
Apr 21 18:13:56 <tilal6991> Kotlin yay
Apr 21 18:13:58 <ghostD0g> thank you
Apr 21 18:14:06 <s73v3r> kotlin can already be used, though.
Apr 21 18:14:12 <tilal6991> First class support I mean
Apr 21 18:14:17 <tilal6991> There are still pain points
Apr 21 18:14:38 <ghostD0g> can i point it at sharedprfrences ?
Apr 21 18:14:46 <ghostD0g> cause that i do have working
Apr 21 18:14:50 <tilal6991> Mainly due to lack of communication between Google and JetBrains about breaking changes
Apr 21 18:15:00 <g00s> "Android application architecture: Get ready for the next billion!" that could be cool
Apr 21 18:15:12 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: the entire prefs front end works with shared prefs so yes
Apr 21 18:15:21 <g00s> i wonder how many of these Yigit is going to give, I can't understand his accent
Apr 21 18:15:37 <tilal6991> Haha his accent is great
Apr 21 18:15:49 <ghostD0g> kk cause that what i am tryong to do is poulate a listpref from a shared pref
Apr 21 18:16:31 <jaana> g00s: yigit hands out on the Kotlin slack, you can talk to him there without any accent barrier :)
Apr 21 18:16:48 <g00s> jaana haha
Apr 21 18:16:53 <tilal6991> "Android themes & styles demystified" can't wait to hear about how crazy the hacks were to get vectordrawable working
Apr 21 18:16:58 <tilal6991> The article seemed crazy enough
Apr 21 18:17:42 <tilal6991> "Advanced Data Binding"
Apr 21 18:17:48 <tilal6991> Woah "Come and learn about new Data Binding features, including two-way data binding and lambda expressions. "
Apr 21 18:18:02 <tilal6991> That's supercharged data binding
Apr 21 18:18:25 <s73v3r> woo!
Apr 21 18:18:49 <s73v3r> now how long until everyone can use them?
Apr 21 18:19:08 <tilal6991> s73v3r: use https://github.com/zserge/anvil :P
Apr 21 18:19:16 <g00s> two way data binding is in AS 2.1 / gradle 2.1 right ?
Apr 21 18:19:26 <tilal6991> Also yeah there is so much hoops you have to jump through to get data binding working
Apr 21 18:19:30 <tilal6991> So much boilerplate
Apr 21 18:19:37 <ghostD0g> wait i do have a prefxm
Apr 21 18:19:39 <ghostD0g> xml
Apr 21 18:20:03 <tilal6991> Then use it lol
Apr 21 18:20:09 <g00s> lol, we put boilerplate in your boilerplate so you can bind while you bind
Apr 21 18:20:19 <tilal6991> "Instant Loading: Building offline-first Progressive Web Apps
Apr 21 18:20:19 <tilal6991> " - yay more of my stuff
Apr 21 18:20:43 <ghostD0g> ListPreference listPreferenceCategory = (ListPreference) findPreference(getString(R.xml.pref));  like so ?
Apr 21 18:20:47 <g00s> there is a lot of Firebase stuff, but since its not free i can't afford to use it
Apr 21 18:21:11 <s73v3r> g00s: Firebase has a free tier
Apr 21 18:21:21 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: if you've setup everything correctly then sure that'll work correctly
Apr 21 18:21:24 <g00s> yeah - i think its very low though, last i looked
Apr 21 18:22:42 <ghostD0g> expected resource of type string ....
Apr 21 18:23:04 <tilal6991> Lol wait no that won't work lol
Apr 21 18:23:08 <tilal6991> OK what
Apr 21 18:23:10 <tilal6991> No no
Apr 21 18:23:14 <tilal6991> Go back to how it was before
Apr 21 18:23:18 <tilal6991> I misread that totally
Apr 21 18:23:27 <ghostD0g> ListPreference listPreferenceCategory = (ListPreference) findPreference(getString(R.string.pref_key));
Apr 21 18:23:28 <g00s> tilal6991 now , we have to know - did you work on Volley :D
Apr 21 18:23:36 <g00s> careful how you answer :)
Apr 21 18:23:37 <ghostD0g> so that ?
Apr 21 18:23:41 <tilal6991> g00s: no Chrome Android
Apr 21 18:23:44 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: ues
Apr 21 18:23:46 <tilal6991> * yes
Apr 21 18:24:20 <g00s> jaana how is the android slack channel ?
Apr 21 18:24:33 <jaana> Very active and interesting overall
Apr 21 18:24:34 <ghostD0g> http://pastebin.com/3Rm8JVMA <-- is my xml
Apr 21 18:24:43 <jaana> Often talks about just android stuff instead of kotlin-android stuff
Apr 21 18:25:15 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: so android:key needs to match the string you're passing to findPreference
Apr 21 18:25:23 <ghostD0g> @string/pref_location_key" is what i am trying to s=change
Apr 21 18:25:34 <tilal6991> TBF there isn't that much need for specific Kotlin Android advice
Apr 21 18:25:39 <g00s> jaana i'd sign up if i didn't have to use email and it be in the open, is there a way to hide it ?
Apr 21 18:25:43 <tilal6991> It's mainly tooling that needs to improve
Apr 21 18:25:52 <jaana> Use a throwaway email
Apr 21 18:25:54 <s73v3r> tooling can always be better
Apr 21 18:25:59 <g00s> i don't think my machine has enough memory to run slack and IRC lol
Apr 21 18:26:06 <andyOne> Hello
Apr 21 18:26:13 <tilal6991> Very true but Kotlin lags behind native Java
Apr 21 18:26:35 <s73v3r> do I need an invite to join the Android slack?
Apr 21 18:26:45 <g00s> as an outside, to me seems only improvement kotlin could make wrt adnroid is just making sure xav's teams tooling doesn't break things
Apr 21 18:26:58 <tilal6991> ^ is right
Apr 21 18:27:07 <tilal6991> Their roadmap is spot on
Apr 21 18:27:09 <andyOne> I have just started with android. I see super(something inside) in many codes. I know that super is used to call a method of the parent class, but what does super(some_item) mean?
Apr 21 18:27:16 <tilal6991> http://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2016/03/kotlins-android-roadmap/
Apr 21 18:27:31 <tilal6991> andyOne: calls the superclass constructor
Apr 21 18:27:43 <spudowiar> andyOne: it means call the parent class' constructor
Apr 21 18:27:48 <andyOne> tilal6991: That is super() but what is this then super(itemView);
Apr 21 18:27:53 <spudowiar> andyOne: that's the same
Apr 21 18:28:06 <spudowiar> andyOne: it uses those arguments, that's all
Apr 21 18:28:07 <tilal6991> Yes still the superclass constructor
Apr 21 18:28:12 <tilal6991> ^^
Apr 21 18:28:48 <andyOne> Ah...all right. Thanks.
Apr 21 18:29:50 <ghostD0g> http://pastebin.com/4D43UJVf <-- the part from strings.xml  http://pastebin.com/3Rm8JVMA <-- the pref.xml   http://pastebin.com/5BwQC6cf <-- the java thats breaking
Apr 21 18:30:11 <ghostD0g> so as far as i can tell i have all the pieces in place ?
Apr 21 18:31:03 <ghostD0g> excuse my Log.i its so i can find em in the logcat
Apr 21 18:31:03 <tilal6991> ghostD0g: you still must not be doing addPreferencesFromResource. That's the only way I can explain it
Apr 21 18:31:13 <ghostD0g> im not
Apr 21 18:31:22 <ghostD0g> not sure how to do that
Apr 21 18:31:28 <tilal6991> Look at the link I sent
Apr 21 18:31:28 <ghostD0g> reading
Apr 21 18:31:33 <tilal6991> Otherwise nothing works
Apr 21 18:32:27 <bhargavgolla> Anyone willing to help with Safetynet verification?
Apr 21 18:32:28 <tilal6991> Also http://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2016/04/kotlin-post-1-0-roadmap/
Apr 21 18:32:32 <tilal6991> Yay async/wait
Apr 21 18:32:33 <tilal6991> <3
Apr 21 18:33:05 <andyOne> Btw how do we know that we need to call super() ? For example in the first example at https://developer.android.com/training/material/lists-cards.html , he calls super(v) in the ViewHolder class definition. How does he know?
Apr 21 18:33:21 <g00s> i always hated that about inheritance
Apr 21 18:33:21 <tilal6991> andyOne: the compiler will complain
Apr 21 18:33:32 <tilal6991> Your ide will shout at you
Apr 21 18:33:53 <g00s> tilal6991 you dont get warning if you forget that in, say, onStart() etc
Apr 21 18:34:05 <tilal6991> Because it's not a constructor
Apr 21 18:34:15 <g00s> but android will complain
Apr 21 18:34:23 <tilal6991> A super class constructor NEEDS to be called
Apr 21 18:34:30 <tilal6991> A super class method does not necessarily
Apr 21 18:34:30 <g00s> oh for ctor sure
Apr 21 18:34:35 <tilal6991> Yeah it's runtime vs compile time
Apr 21 18:34:46 <andyOne> tilal6991: Ok...how do we know that by ourself? I mean without ide how do we know before crashing the app?
Apr 21 18:34:50 <tilal6991> Because there's no way to enforce that for other methods :/
Apr 21 18:34:58 <tilal6991> andyOne: it can't crash the app
Apr 21 18:35:02 <Pyuruku> andyOne: experience
Apr 21 18:35:05 <tilal6991> Because you can't get the app running in the first place
Apr 21 18:35:12 <tilal6991> Because it won't compile lol
Apr 21 18:35:19 <Queenslayer> Is there any generic method of installing TWRP or CWM on any Android device?
Apr 21 18:35:26 <tilal6991> Queenslayer: wrong channel
Apr 21 18:35:32 <Queenslayer> I know there are ways to extract the ROM....
Apr 21 18:35:35 <Queenslayer> root?
Apr 21 18:35:47 <andyOne> Queenslayer: If there are official buils, use TWRP manager or something.
Apr 21 18:35:50 <Pyuruku> #android-root
Apr 21 18:35:55 <s73v3r> andyOne: You can check the documentation for the method you’re overriding; it’ll usually be there
Apr 21 18:36:00 <Queenslayer> It's a box
Apr 21 18:36:02 <Queenslayer> andyOne,
Apr 21 18:36:10 <Queenslayer> Yeah Pyuruku
Apr 21 18:36:16 <Pyuruku> Queenslayer: #android-root
Apr 21 18:36:23 <Queenslayer> Was about to do that but replied to andyOne
Apr 21 18:36:28 <ghostD0g> ahhh i found it
Apr 21 18:37:03 <ghostD0g> i was callin addPreferencesFromResource(R.xml.pref.xml);
Apr 21 18:37:04 <ghostD0g>  but after i was calling my populate method
Apr 21 18:37:07 <Pyuruku> Does anyone here use dagger 2 with subcomponents and has functional tests?
Apr 21 18:37:25 <andyOne> Ok...thanks. Got to read a lot of stuff before writing any code. :/
Apr 21 18:37:26 <ghostD0g> so at that point it wasnt setup right
Apr 21 18:37:33 <ghostD0g> thank you :}
Apr 21 18:37:46 <tilal6991> NP
Apr 21 18:39:19 <ghostD0g> sweet :)
Apr 21 18:39:21 <ghostD0g> works
Apr 21 18:44:31 <g00s> hm, can't find a way to tell intellij to use a certain font weight
Apr 21 18:44:39 <g00s> like extra light or something
Apr 21 18:59:38 <krippykripkrip> evening guys, could someone help with a volley issue i am having
Apr 21 19:04:23 <ghostD0g> is there away toe get the SharedPreferences size withput resorting to this hack ..  Map<String, ?> m = sharePref.getAll();  editor.putString(String.valueOf(m.size()), "string");  ... to add a new value to sharePref
Apr 21 19:04:45 <ghostD0g> its works but seems ..wrong
Apr 21 19:06:53 <Lonesoldier728> Hey, so I have this dilemma, I am using a grid layout for my recycler view (showing 2 items per row), but the first row I want it to show only the one item so it is wider, I tried doing this in a separate layout outside of the recycler view but then it will not scroll and will stay fixed instead...
Apr 21 19:07:16 <Lonesoldier728> Is there a way to change the gridlayout for the first item in recycler view to expand across the screen?
Apr 21 19:07:19 <s73v3r> Lonesoldier728: Create a different layout for that one cell
Apr 21 19:07:37 <Lonesoldier728> I did, but the problem is that I have this for the whole recycler view
Apr 21 19:07:46 <s73v3r> so?
Apr 21 19:07:50 <Lonesoldier728> RecyclerView.LayoutManager mLayoutManager = new GridLayoutManager(getApplicationContext(), 2);
Apr 21 19:08:01 <s73v3r> nevermind
Apr 21 19:08:16 <s73v3r> i read gridlayout differently
Apr 21 19:08:28 <Pyuruku> Lonesoldier728: set the spansize lookup to your adapter
Apr 21 19:08:29 <s73v3r> you might need a custom layoutmanager
Apr 21 19:08:51 <Lonesoldier728> How do I do that Pyuruku
Apr 21 19:09:03 <Pyuruku> `layoutManager.setSpanSizeLookup(<object here>);`
Apr 21 19:09:33 <s73v3r> that’s what you want
Apr 21 19:09:58 <Lonesoldier728> s73v3r - what is the span or custom layout manager
Apr 21 19:10:11 <Pyuruku> you dont need a custom layout manager
Apr 21 19:10:18 <Pyuruku> the span tells the grid layout manager how wide an item is
Apr 21 19:10:24 <Pyuruku> so in your case, the first item is 2 wide
Apr 21 19:10:28 <Pyuruku> so it spans the entire width
Apr 21 19:10:29 <s73v3r> ^ this
Apr 21 19:10:31 <Pyuruku> the rest will be 1 wide
Apr 21 19:10:53 <Pyuruku> so literally, if (position == 0) return 2 else return 1
Apr 21 19:11:29 <Lonesoldier728> Let me show you a quick paste because I am confused where I include the spanSizeLookup exactly
Apr 21 19:11:41 <s73v3r> look up that method first
Apr 21 19:11:52 <Lonesoldier728> I am http://developer.android.com/reference/android/support/v7/widget/GridLayoutManager.SpanSizeLookup.html
Apr 21 19:12:15 <s73v3r> so you call it when you set up that layoutmanager
Apr 21 19:12:21 <el-duderino> Evenin'
Apr 21 19:12:54 <Lonesoldier728> but where do I get the position from if I am setting it to the recycler view like so when setting up the adapter
Apr 21 19:13:05 <Pyuruku> Lonesoldier728: I have the spansize lookup object held by my adapter and I just pass it to the layout manager
Apr 21 19:13:24 <Lonesoldier728> http://pastebin.com/04L7S2Em
Apr 21 19:13:25 <Pyuruku> inside of the object, you can grab whatever adapter item you want, it asks for the size by position
Apr 21 19:13:48 <Pyuruku> add `getSpanSizeLookup()` or something to `ExploreAdapter`
Apr 21 19:13:51 <el-duderino> Is there a way to authorise adb from the terminal provided by twrp..?
Apr 21 19:13:53 <Lonesoldier728> oh ok
Apr 21 19:14:07 <Pyuruku> then do `mLayoutManager.setSpanSizeLookup(exploreAdapter.getSpanSizeLookup());`
Apr 21 19:14:08 <s73v3r> el-duderino: Try #android-root
Apr 21 19:14:19 <el-duderino> s73v3r cheers
Apr 21 19:16:13 <Lonesoldier728> Pyuruku I am confused on how to return the position exactly, for the span, any chance you have code to direct me to?
Apr 21 19:16:27 <nemik> hi. can anyone recommend a package for apps to do auto-updates with? but just with a server i can run, not going through Google Play?
Apr 21 19:16:44 <Pyuruku> Lonesoldier728: how about you try to start implementing the code, you'll get it then
Apr 21 19:17:11 <Pyuruku> the SpanSizeLookup object is given a position
Apr 21 19:17:18 <Pyuruku> all you have to do is return the size based on that position
Apr 21 19:17:20 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> wow, I just saw a tweet that makes Agera look terrible.  Counting from 1-100,000  rxjava:325ms agera:15951
Apr 21 19:18:32 <Lonesoldier728> ok will try it out
Apr 21 19:27:22 <tilal6991> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: is that really surprising?
Apr 21 19:27:29 <Lonesoldier728> Pyuruku - so this worked except that it is cutting out one of the items http://pastebin.com/qXX9uTRN
Apr 21 19:27:38 <tilal6991> Lonesoldier728: also please stop using getApplicationContext to pass to the LayoutManager
Apr 21 19:27:54 <tilal6991> You really should be passing your activity context
Apr 21 19:28:02 <tilal6991> It's a good habit to get into
Apr 21 19:28:18 <tilal6991> May not make a diff here but in general you should not use application context when doing view related stuff
Apr 21 19:28:21 <Lonesoldier728> ah didnt realize, changed it to "this"
Apr 21 19:28:36 <tilal6991> Cool :)
Apr 21 19:29:59 <tilal6991> https://twitter.com/Aballano/status/722369518048317440
Apr 21 19:29:59 <honestemu> How do I make sections of this image clickable? http://imgur.com/NHdXN2m
Apr 21 19:30:00 <tilal6991> Lol
Apr 21 19:30:12 <tilal6991> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: https://twitter.com/akarnokd
Apr 21 19:30:19 <tilal6991> He's one of the main devs of Rx lol
Apr 21 19:30:29 <honestemu> As you can see, I cut the image up in GIMP and tried to make them clickable, but the alignment doesn't look right.
Apr 21 19:31:07 <honestemu> The left 4 images worked great
Apr 21 19:31:16 <honestemu> But the Dairy section is just off slightly
Apr 21 19:31:21 <Lonesoldier728> tilal6991 any clue what I am doing wrong though
Apr 21 19:31:57 <tilal6991> Uhhh what you're doing looks good to me TBH
Apr 21 19:32:55 <Lonesoldier728> Yeah, but for some reason, it seems like when I return span 1 for the first object it is cutting out one of the objects in the list
Apr 21 19:33:20 <honestemu> The toughest part is that the images are not equal in size or shape, but I want them to come together to make the whole image
Apr 21 19:34:13 <orbyt_> honestemu: what are you doing?
Apr 21 19:35:06 <honestemu> orbyt_: I'm trying to make this image clickable, basically. So far I tried splitting the image into 5 different images of different sizes, but it doesn't align properly
Apr 21 19:35:14 <honestemu> Looking for a better method
Apr 21 19:35:25 <tilal6991> honestemu: the proper way to do this would be to create one giant image and then do onTouch handling
Apr 21 19:35:33 <honestemu> Oh okay
Apr 21 19:35:39 <orbyt_> honestemu: Wanna post the image?
Apr 21 19:35:41 <tilal6991> onTouch is not fun to handle though :P
Apr 21 19:35:54 <honestemu> http://imgur.com/NHdXN2m
Apr 21 19:35:56 <tilal6991> In your case I think it should be not too bad tho
Apr 21 19:36:08 <honestemu> Yeah, I think I saw this on stackOverflow
Apr 21 19:36:14 <honestemu> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9495199/i-have-an-image-which-has-sections-and-i-want-to-make-each-section-clickable
Apr 21 19:36:26 <orbyt_> wow thats ugly.
Apr 21 19:37:04 <tilal6991> honestemu: exactly like what that answer said
Apr 21 19:37:07 <tilal6991> Back in a bit
Apr 21 19:37:23 <honestemu> orbyt_: Yup, seems real hacky
Apr 21 19:37:57 <honestemu> Thought someone here would have a nice way of doing this.
Apr 21 19:39:14 <hert> i have a few fab that get initialized and display onCreate then i hide them on button push and display again on another button push but then i het the error mentioned here  on line #10 http://pastebin.com/JVaByGNF
Apr 21 19:39:28 <Lonesoldier728> ok just had to add my index 0 item
Apr 21 19:43:07 <krippykripkrip> is there any good tuorials for drawing apps for android
Apr 21 19:52:33 <tilal6991> hert: your link is gone
Apr 21 19:57:25 <hert> tila6991 http://pastebin.com/JwnxdksL
Apr 21 19:58:17 <trudev> is there a way to trace an android runtime error to a specific line?
Apr 21 19:58:19 <trudev> http://pastebin.com/Zn7H0Z8j
Apr 21 19:58:33 <trudev> i know what's wrong but this project is huge!
Apr 21 19:59:04 <spudowiar> trudev: check around that area in the log, there might be another stack trace
Apr 21 19:59:13 <tilal6991> hert: without seeing more of the code there's no way to figure out what's going on
Apr 21 19:59:36 <tilal6991> trudev: you've not inited thelayout manager for a
Apr 21 19:59:48 <tilal6991> * inited the layout manager for a recyclerview somewhere
Apr 21 20:00:02 <tilal6991> That's the canonical error which happens when you forget
Apr 21 20:00:13 <tilal6991> And no there is no easy way to figure out where that is
Apr 21 20:00:26 <trudev> tilal6991 i know that, but i have no idea where the recyclerview is located because this project is huge
Apr 21 20:00:32 <spudowiar> trudev: grep it!
Apr 21 20:01:36 <trudev> spudowiar can you explain a bit? i know what grep is but idk how it would help me
Apr 21 20:06:04 <hert> http://pastebin.com/EStb6mCh View.VISIBLE call on floating action button gives a NUllPointerException
Apr 21 20:06:53 <tilal6991> hert: OK are you sure you're not setting any of the button views anywhere else in the whole app?
Apr 21 20:06:59 <tilal6991> Like updating the fields?
Apr 21 20:09:26 <hert> no the are setup in the onCreate  at first and that's it
Apr 21 20:09:52 <tilal6991> Then I'm out of ideas lol. Possibly one of the weirdest bugs I've seen in a while if all of what you are saying is accurate
Apr 21 20:10:02 <tilal6991> Fields don't null themselves
Apr 21 20:10:49 <hert> which fields are you referring to?
Apr 21 20:11:05 <tilal6991> The button fields
Apr 21 20:11:33 <hert> all that is in the xml
Apr 21 20:12:14 <tilal6991> Oh yeah but in onCreate you set everything up right so between hide and show they are being nulled
Apr 21 20:12:19 <tilal6991> Which is weird
Apr 21 20:12:32 <hert> after seeing up them up  i put a listener on them all in onCreate
Apr 21 20:13:00 <hert> does set INVISIBLE cause it to nullify?
Apr 21 20:13:22 <tilal6991> No
Apr 21 20:13:22 <hert> i did not have these issue on regular buttons only on floating action button
Apr 21 20:13:25 <tilal6991> Not even close
Apr 21 20:14:58 <TinFury> Does anyone here use databinding?
Apr 21 20:15:04 <TinFury> I'm having some problems with getting data binding to work
Apr 21 20:15:09 <TinFury> Docs say I need Gradle 1.5.0 and gradle syncs if I use 1.5.0
Apr 21 20:15:12 <tilal6991> TinFury: I've used it
Apr 21 20:15:16 <TinFury> If I use 2.0.0 however it methods from databinder are not recognized.
Apr 21 20:15:43 <TinFury> tilal6991, I think it's worth it why isn't there more documentation or why isnt' this the default way to bind the layout?
Apr 21 20:15:59 <Bernzel_> Hey, I have this horizontalScrollView: http://pastebin.com/ZXZ5w87d It works perfect except that the LinearLayout which nests in the ScrollView is expanding way beyond what the items in it are taking in space. So basically I have another length of LinearLayout to scroll through with no items in it
Apr 21 20:16:07 <tilal6991> Because the boilerplate is incredibly high
Apr 21 20:16:10 <tilal6991> Didn't like it TBH
Apr 21 20:16:35 <tilal6991> I had to mess with a lot of my data structures to get it to work
Apr 21 20:16:59 <TinFury> Is there something else?
Apr 21 20:17:05 <TinFury> I'm using butterknife now
Apr 21 20:17:19 <tilal6991> I've been playing with https://github.com/zserge/anvil
Apr 21 20:17:31 <tilal6991> Which is a totally different way to approach databinding
Apr 21 20:17:38 <TinFury> Lemme read up on it
Apr 21 20:17:47 <tilal6991> But it's not production tested
Apr 21 20:17:51 <tilal6991> Still a nice library tho
Apr 21 20:18:48 <tilal6991> hert: BTW you should use hide and show with floatingactionbuttons
Apr 21 20:18:56 <tilal6991> You get nice animations for free
Apr 21 20:19:22 <TinFury> tilal6991, Animations?
Apr 21 20:19:40 <tilal6991> TinFury: was talking to hert not you
Apr 21 20:19:47 <TinFury> oh lol
Apr 21 20:19:47 <TinFury> k
Apr 21 20:20:02 <TinFury> tilal6991, Thanks btw
Apr 21 20:23:02 <tilal6991> TinFury: any time :)
Apr 21 20:38:36 <ZorKum> Hi all!
Apr 21 20:39:05 <ZorKum> Is xamarin a good idea to build android apps or better java?
Apr 21 20:39:43 <s73v3r> it’s always better to go native
Apr 21 20:39:54 <ZorKum> java is the native way?
Apr 21 20:39:57 <s73v3r> yes
Apr 21 20:40:18 <ZorKum> with the basics java things i can jump into android dev?
Apr 21 20:40:24 <s73v3r> maybe
Apr 21 20:40:48 <ZorKum> s73v3r:  you know courses, tutorials or good resources to learn?
Apr 21 20:40:51 <ZorKum> pay and free
Apr 21 20:40:56 <ZorKum> pay is not problem
Apr 21 20:40:59 <s73v3r> god damn we really need that bot
Apr 21 20:41:23 <s73v3r> there’s the Big Nerd Ranch book, there’s the official developer.android.com tutorials, and there’s the Google Android Udacity course
Apr 21 20:41:44 <ZorKum> ok thanks
Apr 21 20:41:53 <ZorKum> ;)
Apr 21 20:43:35 <IggyGee> I'm having a lot of trouble renaming files.
Apr 21 20:44:06 <spudowiar> IggyGee: context is a nice thing to give people
Apr 21 20:44:48 <IggyGee> I've even tried copy pasting with different names, but for some reason, while I can create the new files, the information doesn't get transferred over using Streams or even FileChannels...
Apr 21 20:45:22 <IggyGee> spudowiar: I'm not really sure what kind of info would be helpful to you all
Apr 21 20:46:37 <spudowiar> IggyGee: the error?
Apr 21 20:46:47 <IggyGee> It's not an error
Apr 21 20:47:28 <IggyGee> the bytes are not being transferred over
Apr 21 20:47:44 <s73v3r> show your code, I guess
Apr 21 20:50:22 <IggyGee> http://pastebin.com/t55j3JCY
Apr 21 20:51:29 <IggyGee> This code simply recreates the name of the given files with 0 bytes
Apr 21 20:52:21 <IggyGee> both location and the 'get' methods are within the same directory
Apr 21 21:34:37 <hert> i've been getting this error i can't make sense of http://pastebin.com/7WP6v9kR
Apr 21 21:52:29 * pfn kicks <ripple>
Apr 21 21:57:31 <honestemu> I'm trying to follow this stackoverflow answer to make my image clickable. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9495199/i-have-an-image-which-has-sections-and-i-want-to-make-each-section-clickable
Apr 21 21:57:54 <honestemu> Unfortunately, when I make the ImageView invisible, it seems that I cannot click on it anymore
Apr 21 21:59:04 <honestemu> Any idea why that might be happening?
Apr 21 21:59:59 <honestemu> Actually, nvm
Apr 21 22:00:11 <honestemu> I think it might have something to do with setting the background
Apr 21 22:00:14 <honestemu> I didn't do that
Apr 21 22:15:34 <g00s> lol, i love how the Android Monitor tool window has a button for 'print' in logcat
Apr 21 22:15:48 <pfn> you know how everyone needs to print their logcat
Apr 21 22:15:50 <g00s> who the hell prints cats anyhow ?
Apr 21 22:16:05 <pfn> people love cats
Apr 21 22:16:08 <pfn> what are you talking about
Apr 21 22:16:11 <pfn> they print them all the time
Apr 21 22:57:18 <Ologn> my new wallpaper app will feature lots of cats
Apr 21 23:36:56 <hert> i'm opening a fragment from an activity and ant to pass in data but not sure how to http://pastebin.com/qnqSFyzY
Apr 21 23:52:31 <jug6ernaut> "2.0.0-deprecated-use-gradle-api"
Apr 21 23:52:40 <jug6ernaut> anyone know whats up with ^^^?
Apr 21 23:52:55 <jug6ernaut> Download https://jcenter.bintray.com/com/android/tools/build/transform-api/2.0.0-deprecated-use-gradle-api/transform-api-2.0.0-deprecated-use-gradle-api.jar
Apr 22 00:34:50 <missingno> how do I determine how much uptake of an OS  version a particular device has?
Apr 22 00:35:04 <missingno> I see the console lets you get these stats separately
Apr 22 00:35:17 <missingno> but I can't find any common attribute to join them with
Apr 22 00:35:23 <missingno> am I fucked til I use GA
Apr 22 00:37:24 <missingno> ok hamburger on the web (in the google dev consoles) is kind of bad
Apr 22 00:46:26 <g00s> missingno you can haz hamburger :)
Apr 22 00:46:56 <missingno> I feel dumb because I don't remember where the google analytics console is
Apr 22 00:47:54 <g00s> missingno btw, the GA app on Play got updated
Apr 22 00:55:36 <g00s> the new GA has some interesting design
Apr 22 00:56:04 <g00s> looks like a staggered list view containing cards, with each card having a viewpager :O
Apr 22 00:56:18 <g00s> s/list view/recyclerview
Apr 22 01:51:56 <Taylor> Hello, I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction when implementing an uncaught exception handler in my Android app
Apr 22 01:52:40 <Taylor> I've got the classes that will handle the exception itself and handling it designed and implemented, I'm just not sure where/how to make sure they're the ones being called
Apr 22 01:56:55 <Ace1137> Click Browse and locate the USB driver folder. (The Google USB Driver is located in <sdk>\extras\google\usb_driver\.) <--- Anyone know where this file is?
Apr 22 01:58:19 <Taylor> AppData
Apr 22 01:58:38 <Taylor> from there typically Local\Android\sdk\
Apr 22 02:03:07 <Ace1137> Taylor, Thanks for the tip.
Apr 22 02:09:14 <g00s> well i'm impressed with the new GA app ... very nice design
Apr 22 02:09:24 <g00s> time to decompile :D
Apr 22 02:09:36 <Taylor> GA?
Apr 22 02:09:53 <g00s> google analytics
Apr 22 02:09:58 <Taylor> ah
Apr 22 02:14:38 <blackice0823> anyone know how to get android studio to run apps on your phone and the logs go to studio when testing them?
Apr 22 02:14:51 <blackice0823> I keep having to mail myself the apk and then I dont get the readout when something goes wrong
Apr 22 02:15:12 <Taylor> If your phone is plugged in you should be able to select your device just as you would when running it on an emulator
Apr 22 02:15:25 <blackice0823> I have unlocked developer mode on my phone but when I plug the usb in it doesnt show it
Apr 22 02:15:26 <Taylor> you have to have device drivers installed and debugging enabled
Apr 22 02:16:21 <blackice0823> I have usb debugging on
Apr 22 02:24:48 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> are you using a samsung phone?
Apr 22 02:25:15 <blackice0823> s6 edge
Apr 22 02:25:25 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> you have to get their stupid tool
Apr 22 02:26:38 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> you on windows?
Apr 22 02:26:51 <blackice0823> yes
Apr 22 02:26:59 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> http://developer.samsung.com/technical-doc/view.do?v=T000000117
Apr 22 02:27:58 <blackice0823> thank you been losing my mind having to start genymotion then launch my app and restart about 10 minutes later because my computer became a turtle
Apr 22 02:32:55 <blackice0823> still comes up with usb device not recognized :(
Apr 22 02:34:14 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> you have to disconnect and connect your device while their program is running
Apr 22 02:34:18 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> its really a PITA
Apr 22 02:34:30 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> cd #bash
Apr 22 02:34:41 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> bah... thats two fuckups in one
Apr 22 02:36:06 <blackice0823> yes seems that way
Apr 22 02:36:17 <blackice0823> ill give it another try
Apr 22 02:38:28 <blackice0823> thank you that worked
Apr 22 02:44:27 <hert> I'm opening a fragment which slide on top of the activity which is opening it and I want to pass data from that activity to the fragment but not sure how to http://pastebin.com/5GLE4PGE
Apr 22 02:50:05 <b1ackcat> can anyone here help me with recyclerviews?
Apr 22 02:50:14 <b1ackcat> I'm trying to implement leave-behinds and can't seem to figure it out
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