**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 29 02:59:58 2016 Apr 29 03:01:21 Hmm java 8 has Optional Apr 29 03:01:30 does the order you declare your dependencies in build.gradle matter? Apr 29 03:01:37 Dont think so? Apr 29 03:14:44 hi, guys I have 2gb ram on my computer so the Android studio is being very slow on my computer, is there any way to improve android studio's performance? Apr 29 03:14:58 Theres powersave mode Apr 29 03:16:13 where? Apr 29 03:17:19 is indexing important? because indexing is what is taking most of the ram Apr 29 03:18:44 buy new ram Apr 29 03:19:17 PC2K: *clapping* Apr 29 03:19:22 even in AS recomend you has 4gb ram,but you should get 8gb Apr 29 03:20:11 still lag as hell with 4gb ram Apr 29 03:20:32 why aren't they keeping the thing light Apr 29 03:26:15 endif gralde itself wants 5G ... Apr 29 03:26:26 for in process dexing, so yeah - 8G minimum Apr 29 03:26:38 i have 4G and its pretty terrible Apr 29 03:26:51 can't even see how 2G would work at all Apr 29 03:27:13 you might have to use vim Apr 29 03:49:42 "Osterloh has come back to Google where he will lead a new hardware team that's responsible for Nexus, Chromecast, Glass, and more." hm Apr 29 04:19:27 quite in here Apr 29 04:19:38 quite quite Apr 29 04:20:06 quite quite quite Apr 29 04:20:39 whoops Apr 29 04:23:16 hey alex_PP Apr 29 04:23:26 morning Apr 29 04:23:43 man protobuf 3 is taking forever Apr 29 04:24:09 to? Apr 29 04:24:15 release? run? Apr 29 04:24:24 release Apr 29 04:24:27 not used protobuff in years Apr 29 04:24:34 wonder if it will be done in 2016 Apr 29 04:25:17 does android support the pks keystore type? I'm seeing conflicting things on the internets Apr 29 04:25:55 alex_PP any cool camera things going on ? Apr 29 04:26:00 nope Apr 29 04:26:18 bought a gopro, not really found a good use for it beyond giving to my daughter to mess with Apr 29 04:26:25 (whuch was kind of the point really) Apr 29 04:26:56 kommunicate, no idea, but if you're getting mixed messages, I'd guess there are some that do and some that don't Apr 29 04:27:04 heh, yeah my neighbor put it on her dog Apr 29 04:27:15 I always use BKS, which is supported everywhere, I think Apr 29 04:27:39 It's pretty cool for time lapse too Apr 29 04:28:01 anyone used couchbase android? Apr 29 04:28:03 any good? Apr 29 04:28:09 alex_PP saw that people are putting flashlights on drones for night painting Apr 29 04:28:41 yeah, not sure why Apr 29 04:28:45 isn't couchbase in erlang? Apr 29 04:28:48 unique images the first time i suppose Apr 29 04:28:57 not the android one Apr 29 04:29:02 not sure about the server side Apr 29 04:29:14 no... you're thinking of another nosql Apr 29 04:29:19 can't rememeber which one Apr 29 04:29:22 PKS and JKS are more traditional standards but there are weird export regulations around some of the crypto libraries, so i wouldn't be surprised if they weren't supported Apr 29 04:29:47 riak i think Apr 29 04:30:17 bks has a slightly different way of doing everything Apr 29 04:30:43 why do you need a specific keystore type, kommunicate? Apr 29 04:30:45 alex_PP the couchbase guy used to hang out here; i thought he was doing java <-> erlang heh Apr 29 04:31:08 but that was a few years ago, maybe its changed now Apr 29 04:31:16 server is still erlang, go, c++ Apr 29 04:31:19 alex_PP: i have control of the keystore types but not all of them are supported in android Apr 29 04:31:46 i just discovered that jks stores don't seem to be supported Apr 29 04:32:33 hello, How could I avoid Android stopping my foreground service when on battery/power saving mode? Is this actually possible? Apr 29 04:32:40 i was mostly hoping i could avoid having to look up how to do things in the slightly different alternate way, but it looks a bit unavoidable Apr 29 04:32:55 so thank you for helping make that decision easy Apr 29 04:34:35 g00s, cool, not seen any erlang while I've been reading up Apr 29 04:34:42 I like the idea or erlang Apr 29 04:34:46 no idea why, never used it Apr 29 04:38:05 *idea of Apr 29 04:38:18 alex_PP there was some Lr update today .... Apr 29 04:38:26 5? Apr 29 04:38:32 minor update Apr 29 04:38:35 not got sick, got tired of adobe's balls Apr 29 04:38:42 *six Apr 29 04:38:58 yeah i hope Affinity does something great Apr 29 04:39:06 Erlang is very painful to program in. Dynamically typed, close to no tool support, no debugger, cryptic error messages, terrible string support Apr 29 04:39:36 no debugger O.o :( Apr 29 04:39:45 shame Apr 29 05:02:24 Hello everybody, someone knows how can i make a sensor class and use it in main activity? Apr 29 05:02:36 I getting a lot of trouble about this. ] Apr 29 05:03:44 any of you guys use trello on android? Apr 29 05:03:54 I'm wondering how you implement a pager like that Apr 29 05:05:29 can I do that using only only a recyclerview? Apr 29 05:05:56 doubt it's a pager Apr 29 05:06:04 looks like a custom view to mee Apr 29 05:06:34 also the draggable cards Apr 29 05:06:34 or maybe it is a pager Apr 29 05:06:51 I just used the word pager to describe the idea Apr 29 05:07:09 i've never used it on a tablet, but I imagine you can see more than one list at a time Apr 29 05:07:49 a trello clone seems like a fun exercise Apr 29 05:08:15 I would guess it's one view for the left right and another for the lists Apr 29 05:08:27 left right could well be a pager Apr 29 05:08:43 reto(?) has a video on drag and drop lists Apr 29 05:09:02 sorry chet Apr 29 05:09:12 http://graphics-geek.blogspot.com/ in here somewhere I think Apr 29 05:09:30 or the tip playlist on youtube Apr 29 05:09:33 *tips Apr 29 05:11:41 I found one that looks promising on the Android Developers youtube channel Apr 29 05:14:02 Anyone with experience with Android Sensor here? Apr 29 05:15:19 Android Sensor ? Apr 29 05:15:50 sorry, i mean android sensors. Apr 29 05:16:40 i´m trying use acelerometer in separeted class, and when i called in main activity class, i dont recive the sensor´s data Apr 29 05:16:52 when i call* Apr 29 05:51:59 I try to add HID support for my kernel and try to add that and I follow this tutorial: https://github.com/pelya/android-keyboard-gadget/blob/master/README.md and this is my error: http://pastebin.com/ma5EGh3W Apr 29 05:52:05 please help Apr 29 05:57:28 go to #android-root Apr 29 06:01:11 Someone is already helping me in #kali-linux Apr 29 06:37:59 hi there Apr 29 06:38:09 i've been given an android project, half completed Apr 29 06:38:21 the person has put what look to be shared preferences in xml/preferences.xml Apr 29 06:38:36 i've tried accessing it with sp.getString("pref_webservice", ""); Apr 29 06:38:47 where sp is a SharedPreferences obj - but it doesnt' return anything Apr 29 06:39:56 what am i doing wrong Apr 29 06:41:14 symfonius: i've been given an android project, half completed <- that's what :P Apr 29 06:41:26 yeah Apr 29 06:41:44 i just meant, is there some way to test that th preferences.xml file is even being noticed by the project Apr 29 06:41:53 like maybe he's just put a random xml file there Apr 29 06:42:57 is there some way i can just extract the value using R.xml.preferences Apr 29 06:43:06 seeing the shared preferences approach isnt working Apr 29 06:43:49 hi I try to build my kernel but I keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/U33sgq0E Apr 29 06:44:29 means you are missing the arm gcc Apr 29 06:44:47 yea I have downloaded toolchain but it did not work please help Apr 29 06:45:11 or a path issue Apr 29 06:45:21 How can I fix it Apr 29 06:45:38 I dont have much time so please help Apr 29 06:46:20 I tried this: make export CROSS_COMPILE=/home/tim/Downloads/SM-G355HN_EUR_KK_Opensource/Kernel/toolchain/arm-eabi/bin/ Apr 29 06:46:20 please help me Apr 29 06:52:01 please help me Apr 29 06:52:30 please help me Apr 29 06:52:32 someone? Apr 29 06:52:47 hi I try to build my kernel but I keep getting this error: http://pastebin.com/U33sgq0E Apr 29 06:56:39 anyone using telegram? Apr 29 07:11:01 No one uses telegram these days. It's all facebook invitations, facebook messages, facebook likes and facebook HASHTAGS! Apr 29 07:18:09 this is what I want to port: https://github.com/pelya/android-keyboard-gadget/blob/master/README.md here are my kernel sources: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=SM-G355HN Apr 29 07:18:27 please someone port it for me because I tried and it tdid not work Apr 29 07:18:50 this is what I want to port: https://github.com/pelya/android-keyboard-gadget/blob/master/README.md here are my kernel sources: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=SM-G355HN Apr 29 07:18:50 please someone port it for me because I tried and it tdid not work Apr 29 07:20:08 o.O Apr 29 07:21:20 if someone wants to help me with ^^ here is my mail: tim241@ziggo.nl Apr 29 07:25:14 Hi all. is it posisble to create a camera preview (SurfaceView) which keeps the camera aspect and fit in any container size (width / height)? Apr 29 07:36:24 Zta: google wants to buy telegram Apr 29 07:40:02 Can someone please explain the concept of the support libraries? Apr 29 07:40:07 not grokking it Apr 29 07:47:45 dpyro: To allow for older versions of android to support features introduced in newer versions of android Apr 29 07:58:45 normally you would want to use support fragments, support material design things Apr 29 07:58:58 even if your minsdk would allow to use 'native' fragments and whatnot Apr 29 07:59:34 that's what i was wondering about Apr 29 07:59:54 why does android even have "regular" libraries when it could just all be in the support Apr 29 08:01:49 dpyro, it's moving in that direction Apr 29 08:18:27 hi angular+cordova for the cross-platform developemtn - possible or not? Apr 29 08:19:51 possible - why not. Apr 29 08:20:16 reasonable? Well be sure to justify it Apr 29 08:20:17 the question - why? Apr 29 08:21:06 i was asked do i recommend this combination - i never worked with cordova so i dont know Apr 29 08:22:17 is there example app build with it in the playstore? Apr 29 08:22:59 I am new to Android Development Apr 29 08:23:23 I just created a test project and its currently updating the indices in backgrounf Apr 29 08:23:30 *backgound Apr 29 08:23:35 **background Apr 29 08:23:45 What does that mean?\ Apr 29 08:25:50 huh? Apr 29 08:27:23 ? Apr 29 08:34:57 hi Apr 29 08:35:11 Hello Apr 29 08:35:23 trying to access the positive and negative button in my dialogfragment but I don't know how Apr 29 08:35:42 in alertdialog I can use getButton but there is no function like that in dialogfragment Apr 29 08:39:05 hwo to create dialog in onCreateDialog Apr 29 08:39:34 how do you* Apr 29 08:39:58 you could probably put AlertDialog to some variable there and get the button Apr 29 08:42:06 Is there really no tool in the android tool chain that can let me see a readable version of the Manifest file inside an APK? All answers so far lead to this totally random tool called apktool. Apr 29 08:58:09 Zta: Kali has it Apr 29 09:22:34 if your app was suspended, is it still possible to access all images and app description that you wrote? Apr 29 09:22:51 I'm still the copyright owner, though Google blocked access to it. I guess that's illegal? Apr 29 09:26:10 What's the "that" in the last sentence referring to? Apr 29 09:27:22 blocking access to my copyrighted work Apr 29 09:27:43 I assume you have a local copy of your copyrighted work? Apr 29 09:27:57 Unfortunately, I do not :| Apr 29 09:28:05 I assume it wouldn't be illegal even if you didn't, though I'm definitely not a lawyer. Apr 29 09:28:30 they most likely are not required to keep the information you provided to them Apr 29 09:28:57 like you've handwritten a book, sent it to a publisher. He didn't accept you, but he's NOT returning your book, and that's the only copy you got. Apr 29 09:29:02 fizzie: does this sound fair to you? Apr 29 09:29:07 anyway, did you check if there's a cached version of your app page in google search? Apr 29 09:29:40 It may not sound "fair", but it certainly doesn't sound illegal on any copyright grounds. Apr 29 09:29:42 it might not be fair but I don't see how it's illegal Apr 29 09:30:16 it's not like anyone took something away from you Apr 29 09:30:16 as far as I know, when you're the legal copyright owner, you're always allowed to use your own texts. Apr 29 09:30:23 sure Apr 29 09:30:32 but it's your job to keep a copy of them Apr 29 09:34:04 I just finished an aosp build MOB30D for hammerhead, I'm getting FCs on com.android.phone Apr 29 09:34:33 do I rebuild phone or will the problem be somewhere else? Apr 29 09:35:08 You're not in the right channel for these questions. Apr 29 09:35:16 This is app dev :/ Apr 29 09:35:21 oh sorry, is there a build channel? Apr 29 09:35:37 Usually #android-root I guess. Apr 29 09:35:42 thanks Apr 29 09:36:37 pff Apr 29 09:37:31 something's causing my activity to pause and resume right after in certain cases, is there any tricks I could do to figure out what caused the pause? Apr 29 09:39:47 Zharf, did you check logcat? Apr 29 09:40:07 nothing special there Apr 29 09:40:57 jmayerz: Who's Kali? =) Apr 29 09:41:33 Zta: kali linux, it's a distro. If you can't find apktool you can find it in their source reps Apr 29 09:46:48 You could check "adb logcat -b events" for anything suspicious as well, though that's a bit of a long shot. Apr 29 09:48:32 Is gradle or gradle-experimental recommended for building ndk projects? I'm building from command line only and am currently using gradle-experimental but it doesnt (seem to) support setting the result apk name (which can be done in standard gradle) Apr 29 09:49:54 hm, seems like it only happens when a new apk is installed and the application is started... Apr 29 09:49:58 jmayerz: I still think it would be appropriate for Google to provide it. Apr 29 09:51:01 they can't, it's a reverse engineering tool there are legal complications there Apr 29 09:54:52 I've copied the AIDL iap file in a com.android.vending.billing dir in my /src folder and synced gradle, but I can't find any /gen folder where the file should have been generated to? Must I create it manually? Apr 29 09:56:10 jmayerz: That could be an issue of course, yes. Apr 29 09:56:21 jmayerz: Zta: "aapt d xmltree path/to/file.apk AndroidManifest.xml". It's "readable", for some values of "readable". Apr 29 09:56:30 (And aapt is part of build-tools.) Apr 29 09:56:51 hmm... Apr 29 09:57:49 yep, that works, it's not giving me the whole thing though Apr 29 09:58:56 fizzie: Interesting =) I am actually able to read the value I was interested in. Apr 29 09:59:27 But this is even more verbose than XML Apr 29 10:02:30 They took the effort to also display strings values as "raw", e.g. A: android:versionName(0x0101021c)="1.1" (Raw: "1.1") Apr 29 10:02:46 But not int values as decimal =( android:versionCode(0x0101021b)=(type 0x10)0x4d2 Apr 29 10:03:01 that would have been usable. Apr 29 10:03:29 What's the interesting value in this case? (aapt dump has less verbose options for some potentially interesting values, like 'aapt d badging file.apk'.) Apr 29 10:04:00 I was interested in versionCode. Specifically seeing whether it was set or not. Apr 29 10:04:13 The first (package:) line of the badging dump has the versionCode in decimal. Apr 29 10:04:26 right, let me try Apr 29 10:05:38 indeed it does! Apr 29 10:05:57 I'll just jot down this aapt commands Apr 29 10:27:05 Does anyone know how to add gogole play framework in android studio 2.1? Apr 29 10:29:02 recently i used a serial-to-usb converter device as accessory in android. i got lucky because the driver class files were available online. i did NO change in serial-to-usb converter device. Apr 29 10:29:53 is there set of drivers present for USB class devices in the similar manner? where can i find such drivers, which i can include in android application and use the harware as accessory Apr 29 10:30:14 *without modifying anything in the actual hardware (which is usually not possible) Apr 29 10:30:31 I think for android studio there a differnet way to setup then the other version of android studio for googlr play service. Apr 29 10:31:20 anyone any idea about my question? Apr 29 10:33:20 pranav,i try to setup google play service but android studio 2.1 is setup not like android studio 2.0 Apr 29 10:36:48 anyone live out there. Apr 29 10:39:45 it dead in here. Apr 29 10:44:09 hi guys Apr 29 10:44:14 i have a question Apr 29 10:44:37 i have some list which i will populate dynamicly with code Apr 29 10:45:39 the structure of that list is that i have a layout for each element as a gridlayout. and also each of that gridlayouts have some additional nested layout for showing big or small images ... Apr 29 10:46:29 so if i include them into the layout, the size of these images in the end are just not correct Apr 29 10:46:54 but if i don't use that last nested layout but i just put them into the first layout directly, then the design works perfect Apr 29 10:47:00 do you know what i mean? Apr 29 10:55:30 help I get this erro when trying to compile my boot.img: /bin/sh: 1: /opt/toolchains/arm-eabi-4.7/bin/arm-eabi-gcc: not found Apr 29 11:05:18 Is gradle or gradle-experimental recommended for Apr 29 11:05:18 building ndk projects? Apr 29 11:06:19 I want to move around an image on the screen with touch, the image will not be part of the original layout, but added in Java during runtime. Is it possible? Apr 29 11:14:16 how to create openGL based games which renders 3D models in android? Apr 29 11:16:13 couldn't think of a more generic question? Apr 29 11:16:44 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/opengl.html Apr 29 11:17:48 hahaha Apr 29 11:18:16 recently i used a serial-to-usb converter device as accessory in android. i got lucky because the driver class files were available online. i did NO change in serial-to-usb converter device. Apr 29 11:18:23 is there set of drivers present for USB class devices in the similar manner? where can i find such drivers, which i can include in android application and use the harware as accessory Apr 29 11:18:30 *without modifying anything in the actual hardware (which is usually not possible) Apr 29 11:27:54 Sup guys random question - is it possible to get texts/emails sent to the device imported into my app to read (I'm making an app for visually impaired). Or is the easiest way to do this to connect and download the emails by oneself, not taking from the phone? Apr 29 11:28:57 i think the second one Apr 29 11:30:08 i guess application that has imported emails, would not allow easy access to imported data to 3rd party software Apr 29 11:30:49 but of course, email providers provide API access, the user has to give permission initially to talk to his server using his account Apr 29 11:31:06 *email server Apr 29 11:31:30 Yeah sounds about right - just though i'd come across something that allowed apps to do that with permission which seemed weird to me . Apr 29 11:31:31 Thanks! Apr 29 11:34:02 Taios: but for SMS, you can read them using SmsManager class Apr 29 11:34:16 Taios: but for SMS, you can read them using SmsManager class Apr 29 11:34:38 O, perhaps I got mixed up with that then! Apr 29 11:34:43 that's good to know! Apr 29 11:34:49 what other features you are planning to have in blind app Apr 29 11:35:31 don't tell me you want to read loud watsapp message as soon as arrive Apr 29 11:35:36 ;) Apr 29 11:50:14 I have a layout created, but I want to implement an ImageView/Bitmap or something (an image nevertheless) to be moved across/above this layout with touchevent. This image will not be apart of the layout since it will be generated by user during runtime. Anyone got a good approach? Apr 29 12:15:42 is there some way i can get the FAB to align between the image and card border? Apr 29 12:15:44 http://i.imgur.com/xh56CdB.jpg Apr 29 12:15:49 on the right? Apr 29 12:16:05 can't get it to move around :( Apr 29 12:20:38 where Apr 29 12:35:53 squ? Apr 29 12:35:59 what do you mean? Apr 29 12:36:52 nevermind Apr 29 12:37:04 the big red dot should be aligned between the photo and title, sorta half on the image, half below the image, i guess like google maps does when you want to navigate Apr 29 12:38:07 Uitgeest > Beverwijk Apr 29 12:39:37 hi. slightly off-topic: does anyone know qr-codes well? Are there printing shops that sell guid codes AND give you a list of the guids? I need them as one-time passcodes. Apr 29 12:40:36 anotheryou_, you can make your own QR codes and get them printed Apr 29 12:41:26 ReScO, even 5k unique ones? I thought that might get more expensive than a specialized package for guids Apr 29 12:42:14 I might be burning through 200 a day Apr 29 12:44:46 5k shouldnt be a problem Apr 29 12:45:54 GUIDs are like what, 40 characters? Apr 29 12:46:08 pduin, well with a QR code I can get long Apr 29 12:46:16 sure Apr 29 12:46:18 so the 70k a year need to be hard to guess Apr 29 12:46:26 than I can print for a year Apr 29 12:46:50 why would you need those QR codes anyway? Apr 29 12:47:03 That's no problem, Version 10 QR codes can be scanned by a phone easily, and hold up to 174 ascii characters Apr 29 12:47:59 If you need to generate a bunch of code, the ZXing library can help you do that Apr 29 12:48:12 ReScO, I need to verify quickly, that someone is really where he claims to be and not spamming my system from the couch at home. For this I want to hand out a one-time QR code he can scan with his phone Apr 29 12:49:07 use a barcode that's static, but give them an app that needs to scan the right code Apr 29 12:49:39 ReScO, they can simply take a picture of it, that's the trouble Apr 29 12:50:45 wouldn't work if you'd use aztec and pubkey verification... Apr 29 12:50:51 to decrypt the message Apr 29 12:51:05 Aztec barcodes, pubkey signing, etc Apr 29 12:51:07 can you elaborate? Apr 29 12:51:27 What can the code do, what I can't do with a photo of the code? Apr 29 12:52:09 I mean, if I can scan the code, I can also make a photo of it and scan from the photo another day at home Apr 29 12:52:55 better use case description would help coming up with alternate solutions Apr 29 12:53:23 QR-codes do not seem like a solution Apr 29 12:55:16 Sorry for slight obfuscation: say my situation is this: I want to verify that someone is truely riding my rollercoaster now. With an App he can buy prints of a picture taken on the ride. He shall only see the print-and-take-home pictures of those that rode on the ride with him. Apr 29 12:56:07 So I want to give them a one-time session ID/passcode for each ride they take. Apr 29 12:57:40 With NFC it's obfuscated enough: nobody will spoof it at home, just to see some pictures of other groups riding the rollercoaster. But not every phone has NFC Apr 29 12:57:42 could give them a token with nfc Apr 29 12:57:59 not every phone has it :/ Apr 29 12:58:48 ok, fair enough, but I would definitely add support for it, another option would be to scan a generated code from a screen of some sort Apr 29 12:58:58 yes, NFC is planned :) Apr 29 12:59:41 screen is expensive and too ugly/invasive for my cause :/ Apr 29 12:59:48 why not use bluetooth? Apr 29 13:00:27 hm, in my experience bluetooth is tedious to the user, but it might work Apr 29 13:00:55 Yes, tedious and expensive. I need to cover a few m² Apr 29 13:01:03 well maaaybe it might work Apr 29 13:01:38 I also thought of getting the mac adress of my router, but than you could still fake beeing there from outside the building... Apr 29 13:01:53 and users would have to enable wifi Apr 29 13:04:34 for now nfc with QR-GUIDs seems the way to go... Apr 29 13:04:39 I can't think of a watertight way of validating user's location Apr 29 13:05:01 I got people checking the seatbelts, so they can hand out the QR codes... Apr 29 13:06:22 and it doesn't have to be super secure, just so kids don't fool around with it Apr 29 13:07:16 Then a QR-code per ride would suffice I think? Scan before entering. Apr 29 13:08:16 yes. makes 70k/year/location (might have more rollercoasters :) ) Apr 29 13:08:58 That's do-able. Apr 29 13:09:35 and me sitting here, getting calls when one location needs new QR codes, phoning the printing shop, getting them mailed there etc... Or they have to print them with a crappy thermo printer or cut them from DinA4 sheets XD Apr 29 13:10:02 What's wrong with scanning codes from a screen? You could generate them on the fly every time. Apr 29 13:10:38 Automates the process and get rid of the paper managent. Apr 29 13:11:12 With printed out codes you will probably need someone to tie codes to specific rides every time. Apr 29 13:12:25 pduin, the code to ride tying could be done by the end-user in the app. It's in his interest to select his own ride and you just can use tha code 1 time... Apr 29 13:12:54 screen is ugly, people walk past it without scanning, running back there or need to fiddle with their phone at the entrance etc... Apr 29 13:13:17 not very sexy solution. plus you need to explain that it's only for those that don't have nfc... Apr 29 13:13:51 I see. User scans a code, gets a list of recent rides, and picks picture. Apr 29 13:14:28 it would be best if he scanned it before the ride, but yes. Apr 29 13:14:48 You wouldn't even need a code per ride then. You could swap out codes every hour or so. Apr 29 13:15:32 Kind of depend on how 'secure' you'd like it to be. Apr 29 13:16:13 people will already be seated when they begin to install the app, get back up to the screen etc... it's too much hassle. I think I'll use the thermo printer option... Apr 29 13:16:53 personal can print 100 at a time, putting them in their pockets. That should do. Apr 29 13:17:21 It's ok to select the wrong ride once, just should be impossible to look through all the pictures of all rides. Apr 29 13:21:39 yay, got a solution for groups I think. :) only if the first to arrive has no NFC he uses the QR code, all others in his group will get a pin to join through his device Apr 29 13:22:46 So I hope i only have to use the QR papers for every 5th person or something. Apr 29 13:22:59 thanks guys for the thinking :) Apr 29 13:24:51 While I'm here, an unrelated question: anyone who got code to detect taps on the phone with display off? I think via audio would be the cheapest and mayb easiest, but false detections are problematic (but false positives wouldn't be too bad for my case). Apr 29 13:26:13 I want to build a really quick random number generator. You tap the max value (e.g. 3 => "tap tap tap"). It answers with vibration (e.g. random(3) => 2 => vibrate "long long short") Apr 29 13:26:59 with the short vibrate you have verified the taps got recognised correctly as 3, so a false detection would not be too crucial Apr 29 13:28:12 It will enable me to get rid of all responsibility in life by simply choosing a random option at any given time XD. All in a descrete and quick way. Apr 29 13:28:30 xmms2 stop Apr 29 13:28:32 oops Apr 29 13:28:34 wrong terminal Apr 29 13:28:43 I first thought of simply seeing if I breath in or out, but that might be biased and it's too easy to cheat myself Apr 29 13:29:28 anotheryou_, o.O Apr 29 13:29:41 I study art, sorry :) Apr 29 13:30:45 sounds like someone watched an episode of big bang theory Apr 29 13:31:05 is there one about it?? Apr 29 13:31:08 frankly I'd build a widget for something like that, interacting with the phone without unlocking it is too much of a pain Apr 29 13:31:25 anotheryou_, yes Apr 29 13:31:30 Zharf, :/ app would be sweet. but indeed, maybe I should build it like that Apr 29 13:31:43 pfn, damn :) you happen to know how I can find it? Apr 29 13:31:46 havent seen it Apr 29 13:32:34 the problem with random picking like that is that you'll have to lock in the options before you choose one randomly because otherwise you've accomplished nothing and still end up actually choosing one Apr 29 13:33:07 too many times have I flipped a coin and then chosen what the options are Apr 29 13:33:12 anotheryou_, https://youtu.be/5yk8ixiKUEw Apr 29 13:33:24 the whole episode is about ut Apr 29 13:33:37 Zharf, right, but that would be ok. To see this personal bias in that way might be interesting too Apr 29 13:33:51 Zharf, maybe you are right about better building a device. Anyone knows where to get one of these sweet knock feedbacks? some have it for virtual key feedback instead of a vibrator. Apr 29 13:34:12 pfn, damn, now it bores me to do it myself :) I'll watch it after work Apr 29 13:39:46 anotheryou_, the YouTube is just a clip from the ep Apr 29 13:40:43 well I had a few Ideas what to do with it maybe they didn't touch all these :) Apr 29 13:40:45 - walk truly randomly through the streets - be confronted with a decision in order to feel the possible discrepancy to what you might really want. (this is a strong one, I never understood why it works so well. It's often easier to detect if the outcome you hoped for was fulfilled, than it is to say what you hope for beforehand.) - get rid of responsibility and simply obey the random - decide fates - Apr 29 13:40:45 break structure in your daily routine to oppose surveillance - always do the opposite of what it tells you Apr 29 13:51:41 guys how can i set programatically internal padding for the text of a button? Apr 29 13:53:23 just for the text? hmm dunno Apr 29 13:53:32 simple setPadding() wont do? Apr 29 13:54:10 Ashiren: that's what i thought Apr 29 13:55:19 Ashiren: mybutton.setGravity(Gravity.LEFT); works Apr 29 13:55:36 but it's too near to the margin of the button, i want some extra space Apr 29 13:56:18 try setPadding(20,0,0,0) Apr 29 13:56:22 it takes px Apr 29 13:56:35 i tryed .. nothinf changed Apr 29 13:57:27 ;c Apr 29 13:57:27 but wait, maybe instant run Apr 29 13:57:36 i try a full build Apr 29 14:00:08 (5 hours later) Apr 29 14:01:25 lol Apr 29 14:01:31 nope didnt worked Apr 29 14:10:51 anyone happens to know what happened? i updated to ndk12 and all of the suddent... std::thread is no longer available with gnustl_shared Apr 29 14:10:57 (experimental plugin) Apr 29 14:14:13 Hello Guys Apr 29 14:14:59 I have enabled AMD-V on my laptop but the thing is that Android Studio still says that my CPU doesn't support SVM (same thing as AMD-V?) Apr 29 14:15:05 I have an AMD CPU Apr 29 14:16:58 Ranguro: you might not have it configured OS-side Apr 29 14:17:12 AMD-V is current marketing name, I guess? Apr 29 14:17:31 Ranguro, if you're trying to use the emulator with HAXM acceleration, I'm afraid that works on Intel CPUs only :/ Apr 29 14:18:00 No, I'm not trying to use HAXM acceleration. Apr 29 14:18:12 I have uninstalled it from the Android SDK Manager Apr 29 14:18:30 Are you sure? Apr 29 14:18:33 p_l: I think so. Apr 29 14:18:45 Since accelerated x86 images will attempt to use HAXM. Apr 29 14:18:54 What you installed in manager doesn't matter. Apr 29 14:19:05 Mavrik: I'm not using x86 images. Apr 29 14:19:21 Mavrik: I'm trying to use the armeabi-whatever Apr 29 14:20:16 Ranguro: SVM isn't involved in ARM emulation Apr 29 14:21:00 p_l: AMD-V is the current marketing name. Apr 29 14:21:35 p_l: Oh, I see. Well I thought armeabi was the way to go. Apr 29 14:22:31 p_l: Anyways it still complains using x86_64 and x86 images. Apr 29 14:29:00 Any particular suggestion? Apr 29 14:45:36