**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 08 02:59:59 2016
Jun 08 03:00:24 <g00s> lol, twitter gets Material refresh ...
Jun 08 03:00:29 <g00s> i guess i don't feel so bad now :)
Jun 08 03:01:50 <g00s> is it just me, or is this retarded https://twitter.com/minsdkversion
Jun 08 03:02:28 <joshkovach> nah, that's awesome
Jun 08 03:02:38 <g00s> why ?
Jun 08 03:02:54 <joshkovach> just so simple. I've been following it for years.
Jun 08 03:03:03 <g00s> oh, so you are a lemming :)
Jun 08 03:03:24 <g00s> its not simple, its simplistic
Jun 08 03:03:27 <joshkovach> as far as novelty accounts go, I find it very amusing in its simplicity
Jun 08 03:03:50 <g00s> i mean, do people take it seriously? i hope not ...
Jun 08 03:05:05 <joshkovach>  ̄ \_(ツ)_/ ̄
Jun 08 03:05:33 <g00s> "Julian Assange: Google working closely with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign"
Jun 08 03:05:46 <g00s> lol, i tried searching for "crooked hillary" ...
Jun 08 03:05:59 <alphamule> Note also:  Working for all the other guys, too.
Jun 08 03:06:04 <alphamule> Got money?
Jun 08 03:06:15 <alphamule> Comcast wants to help you!
Jun 08 03:13:56 <rosten> We're all squirrels
Jun 08 03:14:20 <alphamule> Chasing the nuts, I know...
Jun 08 03:16:32 <freakyfidlers> why would google support a shitbag like hillary ?
Jun 08 03:18:42 <alphamule> https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/ov-file-archive/piece/45/5/707645.0.money3.jpg  Plenty of reasons.
Jun 08 03:19:21 <alphamule> Maybe her party promised to craft some computer-company-friendly laws.
Jun 08 03:19:37 <alphamule> Or to hold back Hollywood's cartels
Jun 08 03:19:42 <freakyfidlers> hahahha
Jun 08 03:19:53 <freakyfidlers> hold back hollywood's what ?
Jun 08 03:21:04 <alphamule> EFforts to stab themselves in the back?
Jun 08 03:21:21 <alphamule> VHS is going to kill the movie industry!
Jun 08 03:21:31 <alphamule> (LOL)
Jun 08 03:21:50 <alphamule> Whatever, off topic?
Jun 08 03:22:22 <alphamule> I figured the efforts to create laws that will sabotage their own future markets would be dead letters now but... meh.
Jun 08 03:22:24 * freakyfidlers stares blankly at the dead channel
Jun 08 03:22:31 <freakyfidlers> nah i think its find
Jun 08 03:22:37 <alphamule> http://rexcybertrix.blogspot.com/2012/11/sim-cloning.html  OK, something more programming related.
Jun 08 03:23:16 <alphamule> I must be naive.  I just assumed they had some way to keep you from reading them or used a challenge-response algorithm by now.  Guess not.  XD
Jun 08 03:24:21 <alphamule> Even worse, I think with enough money you can do that OTA.  :/
Jun 08 03:24:45 <alphamule> Ah, reading the article.  This is for old stuff.
Jun 08 03:28:57 <g00s> freakyfidlers google lobbies the US govt *a lot*
Jun 08 03:29:37 <alphamule> It's considered imcompetence for anyone running a corporation not to, if they can afford to.
Jun 08 03:31:31 <freakyfidlers> alphamule, but supporting an individual who readily broke ts protocols for her own benefit and profit is ridiculous
Jun 08 03:32:21 <g00s> bing and duckduckgo show expected behavior on 'crooked hil ...'
Jun 08 03:35:34 <freakyfidlers> g00s, for better or worse i do get hilliary crooked when i type 'hilliary c'
Jun 08 03:35:55 <g00s> :D
Jun 08 03:37:48 <freakyfidlers> still it would be nice for the words crook and prison to automatically show hillary's wiki page
Jun 08 03:39:22 <g00s> freakyfidlers if justice treats her equally like snowden , she should be in prison :)
Jun 08 03:40:05 <rosten> if people like $100,000 hospital bills for a simple surgery and no vacation that's their prerogative, I don't understand it but that doesn't mean it's wrong
Jun 08 03:40:33 <freakyfidlers> rosten, what are you referencing ?
Jun 08 03:41:05 <g00s> single payer
Jun 08 03:41:44 <rosten> freakyfidlers: sorry, ignore that
Jun 08 03:43:23 <g00s> anyone know why you would do this: <view class="com.google.android.keep.ui.KeepTextView" />
Jun 08 03:43:44 <g00s> why <view and class="xxx" rather than <Class /> ?
Jun 08 03:44:33 <tx> not sure hey
Jun 08 03:47:13 <g00s> ah, can't use $ for inner classes in XML element
Jun 08 03:47:24 <g00s> so couldn't say <Foo$Bar .../>
Jun 08 03:47:44 <g00s> in that case you would have to use <view class="Foo$Bar/>
Jun 08 04:20:57 <g00s> anyone have link to that /r/androiddev story, maybe 1-2 weeks ago, about customizing vector drawables with theme attributes ?
Jun 08 04:22:25 <tx> use google with "site:reddit.com androiddev"
Jun 08 04:22:31 <tx> and select a specific time period to search in
Jun 08 04:22:34 <tx> I am sure you'll find it
Jun 08 04:34:00 <g00s> found it, thought it had more but ok https://medium.com/@hellotimmutton/combining-vector-drawables-with-day-night-theme-3b89e525475
Jun 08 05:02:13 <Napalm> g00s: im back
Jun 08 05:02:22 <tim241> which toolchain do I need for this?: https://github.com/chenxiaolong/DualBootPatcher/blob/master/docs/BUILD-Android.md
Jun 08 05:04:00 <g00s> hey Napalm . hm i asked a question a few minutes after i highlighted you, but my history doesn't go back that far ...
Jun 08 05:04:21 <g00s> trying to remember now, was bugging me
Jun 08 05:04:49 <Napalm> <g00s> i notice in a few gapps, you can collapse the AppBarLayout but never expand it again
Jun 08 05:04:58 <g00s> Napalm aha ! yes
Jun 08 05:05:24 <g00s> ok , well what a pita, i found a shitty way of handling that, have to change the scroll flags
Jun 08 05:05:37 <g00s> when item count = 0
Jun 08 05:05:57 <g00s> Napalm do you have the play console app installed ?
Jun 08 05:06:33 <g00s> ah , nm. maybe it was another app
Jun 08 05:06:38 <tim241> Please answer my question ^^
Jun 08 05:07:16 <g00s> tim241 off topic
Jun 08 05:07:24 <tim241> ok then :-(
Jun 08 05:08:23 <g00s> Napalm so, if you have just an AppBarLayout with scrolling flags, you could touch within the AppBarLayout bounds and scroll it up - and then you can't scroll it down again (you always bring down the Notification center)
Jun 08 05:08:35 <g00s> but i got around it, so no sweat. still kinda weird
Jun 08 05:12:37 <ke4nhw> Question. I have a very very simple app I wrote with Java on PC, it just takes user input via JOptionPane.showInput
Jun 08 05:13:15 <ke4nhw> JOptionPane.showInputDialog, runs a few operations on it, and spits out a response via JOptionPane.showMessageDialog
Jun 08 05:13:39 <ke4nhw> Is there a way to convert this app to run on Android (Samsung Galaxy S4)?
Jun 08 05:13:50 <g00s> ke4nhw no
Jun 08 05:13:53 <ke4nhw> ok
Jun 08 05:13:57 <tx> g00s: so pessimistic
Jun 08 05:13:59 <tx> the answer is yes
Jun 08 05:13:59 <tx> but
Jun 08 05:14:03 <tx> you only get to keep your java logic
Jun 08 05:14:06 <g00s> you'll have to use android widget stuff
Jun 08 05:14:09 <ke4nhw> okay
Jun 08 05:14:15 <tx> you need to (obviously) implement the UI / views in android
Jun 08 05:14:17 <tx> yeah
Jun 08 05:14:36 <ke4nhw> Is the source still Java?
Jun 08 05:14:45 <ke4nhw> Or will I have to use a completely different language?
Jun 08 05:14:47 <tx> Yes
Jun 08 05:14:55 <tx> it's still java, you will not need to "port" it.
Jun 08 05:15:51 <ke4nhw> Okay, what IDE would you recommed and where is a good tutorial or reference for programming Java for android?
Jun 08 05:16:11 <ke4nhw> I currently have Netbeans, IntelliJ, and Eclipse
Jun 08 05:19:24 <g00s> you could make IntelliJ work with android plugin, but android studio is what most use
Jun 08 05:20:30 <ke4nhw> Okay I'll look at that one, I assume it comes with all the necessary plugins and runtimes, and I can write and test on the PC and then install to android?
Jun 08 05:20:51 <ke4nhw> I have found info about Java ME, is this the same thing?
Jun 08 05:21:28 <g00s> lol Java ME is extinct right ?
Jun 08 05:21:37 <g00s> well its not the same ;)
Jun 08 05:22:31 <ke4nhw> I'm completely new to this so I really don't know. I just started writing some simple programs in Java and was wondering if Java or some form of Java can be used to write simple apps for my phone
Jun 08 05:24:39 <g00s> ke4nhw android uses java but it ends there, beside having java.util and concurrency stuff
Jun 08 05:24:55 <g00s> android framework apis won't look anything like java se
Jun 08 05:26:06 <g00s> of course there are some other things we have like jsr166, but the platform will feel different
Jun 08 05:26:12 <ke4nhw> Sounds like a steep learning curve and a challenge... Sounds interesting. you say it uses java but I assume when you say it ends there, the code syntax will be completely different from se then?
Jun 08 05:26:39 <g00s> its java , so the syntax is the same
Jun 08 05:26:46 <g00s> the APIs are different
Jun 08 05:27:01 <g00s> i would start at the dev guides on d.android.com
Jun 08 05:27:07 <ke4nhw> even better then, means I'll at least have one toe in the game
Jun 08 05:27:08 <g00s> and under the learning sectio
Jun 08 05:28:42 <CedricBeust> ke4nhw: Despite what the people on ##java say, Android is Java for all intents and purposes. Look at Android as just another Android library
Jun 08 05:28:52 <CedricBeust> Java library*
Jun 08 05:31:21 <ke4nhw> Awesome at least I won't have to start from scratch then... I've got the website pulled up and I'm in the Training section. I think I'll work through most of these before I try reworking this app for my phone.
Jun 08 05:32:20 <alphamule> Also, you don't have to use Java code to create stuff like 'tokenized' Java.
Jun 08 05:32:29 <alphamule> But that's for later.
Jun 08 05:33:30 <ke4nhw> Thanks everyone for the info, this will go a long way to helping me start writing for my phone. It'll likely be a while before anything of mine becomes publicly available. I made a note of that alphamule and I'll ask that one once I've gotten through some or most of the tutorials
Jun 08 05:34:47 <CedricBeust> and yes, Java ME is extinct, don't even bother wasting a minute on it
Jun 08 05:35:19 <alphamule> ME is for the $5 phone you threw out a few years ago
Jun 08 05:35:19 <ke4nhw> thanks especially for the website and the IDE suggestion. I'll get android studio downloaded and start on the tutorials asap
Jun 08 05:35:58 <ke4nhw> I'll be back with any questions if that's okay once I make a good stab at these tutorials
Jun 08 05:36:06 <CedricBeust> Sure thing, good luck
Jun 08 05:36:32 <ke4nhw> Thanks and I'll be talking to ya again soon I'm sure :)
Jun 08 05:36:49 <barq> Are there any options for UI tests for multi-app environments  besides UiAutomator?
Jun 08 05:38:10 <tx> amazon has some
Jun 08 05:38:22 <barq> orly
Jun 08 05:39:18 <tx> na but really, there are a few options, here are some...
Jun 08 05:39:31 <tx> http://selendroid.io/
Jun 08 05:39:39 <tx> https://github.com/RobotiumTech/robotium
Jun 08 05:39:58 <g00s> CedricBeust eric meijer thinks we're all screwed (programmers)
Jun 08 05:40:13 <CedricBeust> Erik likes hyperbole :)
Jun 08 05:40:19 <g00s> ha
Jun 08 05:43:36 <barq> tx: Is it possible two test two apps in one test with those frameworks?
Jun 08 05:44:14 <tx> why do that
Jun 08 05:44:25 <tx> just do the same test twice
Jun 08 05:45:20 <barq> Navigate from one app to the other and back
Jun 08 05:46:39 <tx> oh I see
Jun 08 05:46:56 <tx> I am not too sure, I actually write up my tests using an emulator and touch events :P
Jun 08 05:47:02 <tx> install the apps using adb
Jun 08 05:47:17 <tx> (and take screenshots)
Jun 08 05:47:21 <tx> automagically
Jun 08 05:47:25 <barq> What framework do you use for the touch events and screenshots?
Jun 08 05:47:43 <tx> input tap
Jun 08 05:47:45 <tx> all adb
Jun 08 05:47:49 <tx> part of my CI workflow
Jun 08 05:48:08 <tx> all abstracted so that I don't actually see the adb command anywhere
Jun 08 05:48:37 <barq> How easy is parsing the screenshots?
Jun 08 05:51:43 <tx> you just have references shots
Jun 08 05:51:49 <tx> cut off the top status bar
Jun 08 05:57:24 <tim241> hi guys I have a problem: http://pastebin.com/y8zDC2EE I am following this tutorial: https://github.com/chenxiaolong/DualBootPatcher/blob/master/docs/BUILD-Android.md please help me or pm me
Jun 08 05:57:55 <g00s> tim241 still wrong channel ;)
Jun 08 05:58:23 <tim241> sorry g00s
Jun 08 05:58:30 <g00s> we'll see
Jun 08 05:58:36 <tim241> android-root says I needed to ask here
Jun 08 05:59:19 <CedricBeust> Looks like they forgot what their channel is about :)
Jun 08 05:59:28 <tm604> tim241: did you follow the instructions in that output you pasted? (search for "You should either")
Jun 08 05:59:54 <tim241> yes
Jun 08 06:00:03 <tim241> I followed it correctly
Jun 08 06:00:24 <tim241> export ANDROID_NDK_HOME=/home/tim/android-ndk
Jun 08 06:00:24 <tim241>  is my ndk path
Jun 08 06:00:52 <g00s> tim241 i thought you were sorry ? :(
Jun 08 06:01:12 <g00s> i remain unconvinced
Jun 08 06:01:20 <tm604> but that's not what it says... why do you have _HOME there?
Jun 08 06:01:38 <tim241> that is the ndk directory
Jun 08 06:01:46 <tim241> that is why I did that
Jun 08 06:02:02 <tm604> what does line 419 say in that log paste?
Jun 08 06:02:39 <tim241>   export ANDROID_NDK=~/my-android-ndk
Jun 08 06:02:43 <tim241> lemme try
Jun 08 06:03:03 <tim241> export ANDROID_NDK=~/home/tim/android-ndk
Jun 08 06:03:15 <tm604> don't tell us, tell your shell
Jun 08 06:03:28 <tim241> still same error
Jun 08 06:03:34 <tim241> :-(
Jun 08 06:04:02 <tm604> because you've added a ~ in front, but this is more of a shell/environment/unix question now than anything android-related.
Jun 08 06:06:00 <tim241> k
Jun 08 06:06:07 <tim241> I removed it and tried again
Jun 08 06:07:15 <tim241> it is building now
Jun 08 06:07:17 <tim241> thanks
Jun 08 06:08:14 <jackcom> No one use Nexus 4 now?
Jun 08 06:08:30 <tim241> nope
Jun 08 06:08:41 <tim241> I use a galaxy core 2
Jun 08 06:11:52 <tim241> sorry g00s
Jun 08 06:15:16 <tim241> I am going to build the apk
Jun 08 06:15:20 <tim241> thanks tm604
Jun 08 06:17:41 <jackcom> i m using galaxy s2 now :(
Jun 08 06:17:58 <jackcom> but it is too late and display is not good
Jun 08 06:18:16 <jackcom> what is galaxy core 2?
Jun 08 06:18:20 <jackcom> tim241:
Jun 08 06:19:32 <tim241> yes?
Jun 08 06:19:45 <tim241> Samsung galaxy core 2 ^^
Jun 08 06:20:39 <tim241> a phone jackcom
Jun 08 06:20:40 <jackcom> give me link tim241
Jun 08 06:20:45 <tim241> to what?
Jun 08 06:20:58 <jackcom> i want to see core
Jun 08 06:21:10 <tim241> ow you want to see the phone or not?
Jun 08 06:21:25 <jackcom> yes
Jun 08 06:21:29 <jackcom> i want to see it
Jun 08 06:21:30 <jackcom> now
Jun 08 06:21:40 <tim241> http://cdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/samsung/samsung-galaxy-core-2-sm-g355h-1.jpg
Jun 08 06:23:18 <tim241> is that good jackcom
Jun 08 06:23:20 <tim241> ?
Jun 08 06:23:41 <jackcom> oh it looks good
Jun 08 06:23:46 <tim241> ok
Jun 08 06:23:48 <jackcom> when it come?
Jun 08 06:24:03 <tim241> it has an quad-core 1,2 Ghz and 706 mb of RAM
Jun 08 06:24:10 <tim241> it is out already
Jun 08 06:24:14 <tim241> jackcom,
Jun 08 06:24:18 <tim241> around 100 bucks
Jun 08 06:24:25 <jackcom> 706m ram lol
Jun 08 06:24:28 <jackcom> too small
Jun 08 06:24:38 <tim241> for android it is good
Jun 08 06:24:44 <tim241> enough
Jun 08 06:25:02 <jackcom> nexus 4 vs core 2, which is good?
Jun 08 06:25:26 <tim241> for the price?
Jun 08 06:26:01 <tim241> I would go with the motorola E has the same specs as the core 2 only 1 GB of RAM
Jun 08 06:26:13 <tim241> that is the differewnce actually
Jun 08 06:26:52 <jackcom> motorola E
Jun 08 06:26:53 <jackcom> ?
Jun 08 06:27:39 <jackcom> http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_e-6376.php
Jun 08 06:27:42 <jackcom> great
Jun 08 06:27:55 <jackcom> it come at 2014, 5
Jun 08 06:28:16 <jackcom> 256 ppi great
Jun 08 06:28:37 <jackcom> lol only 4g storage
Jun 08 06:28:39 <jackcom> too small
Jun 08 06:31:14 <Ashiren> 1st world problems
Jun 08 06:32:51 <Odaym> can't I add a domain name to HttpUrl's builder function?
Jun 08 06:32:55 <Odaym> in OkHttp
Jun 08 06:33:07 <jackcom> tim241:
Jun 08 06:33:39 <tim241> yes?
Jun 08 06:34:07 <jackcom> storage is just 4G? lol
Jun 08 06:34:27 <tim241> so? I have external sd-card to phone memory so I have 32 GB
Jun 08 06:35:37 <tim241> I have a problem when I am trying to build the apk from this tutorial:https://github.com/chenxiaolong/DualBootPatcher/blob/master/docs/BUILD-Android.md : http://pastebin.com/Bgj18urc
Jun 08 06:35:49 <deebo> wow 768MB ram, thats bad :)
Jun 08 06:35:57 <deebo> there are way better dual sim phones available
Jun 08 06:36:15 <tim241> Please help me because this is not off-topic ^^
Jun 08 06:40:15 <Leeds> tim241: it kinda is off-topic, but not entirely
Jun 08 06:40:25 <tim241> ik but please help me
Jun 08 06:40:33 <tim241> I would love to see this work
Jun 08 06:40:42 <tim241> :-(
Jun 08 06:41:05 <tim241> .
Jun 08 06:41:15 <Leeds> so, to start - you're sure you've got all the requirements installed and working?
Jun 08 06:41:20 <tim241> yes
Jun 08 06:42:03 <Leeds> tested? built a native and NDK hello world app?
Jun 08 06:42:11 <gordon_> true or not? https://imgur.com/ca4Pyt2
Jun 08 06:42:34 <thepoosh> gordon_: i disagree
Jun 08 06:42:42 <thepoosh> I feel like gradle has some good features
Jun 08 06:42:52 <thepoosh> not as much as protify...
Jun 08 06:43:00 <gordon_> thepoosh: hm?
Jun 08 06:43:11 <thepoosh> ??
Jun 08 06:43:12 <tim241> no I built with an github source Leeds
Jun 08 06:43:21 <gordon_> protify?
Jun 08 06:43:30 <tim241> watch it: https://github.com/chenxiaolong/DualBootPatcher/blob/master/docs/BUILD-Android.md
Jun 08 06:43:33 <Leeds> tim241: so how are you sure your SDK/NDK are installed and working right?
Jun 08 06:43:35 <thepoosh> oh, it's pfn's build tool
Jun 08 06:43:44 <tim241> how do I check it then?
Jun 08 06:44:10 <gordon_> thepoosh: ah, I know protify (using it) so that's why I was suprised someone here uses it
Jun 08 06:44:26 <gordon_> good, good
Jun 08 06:44:31 <thepoosh> eventually, I didn't switch over to protify
Jun 08 06:44:42 <Leeds> tim241: well, try building a hello world?
Jun 08 06:44:46 <thepoosh> because it wasn't compatible with our systems
Jun 08 06:44:52 <gordon_> you should ;)
Jun 08 06:44:54 <Leeds> which, y'know, is what I just suggested?
Jun 08 06:44:59 <tim241> how? I never programmed in java
Jun 08 06:45:08 <tim241> and I have the ndk but I dont have the sdk
Jun 08 06:45:09 <Leeds> welcome to -dev
Jun 08 06:45:12 <tim241> ow wait
Jun 08 06:45:15 <tim241> I have it
Jun 08 06:45:41 <tim241> how do I open it then?
Jun 08 06:46:02 <Leeds> you don't open it, you build something with it
Jun 08 06:46:07 <tim241> I installed it through terminal with: sudo apt-get install android-sdk
Jun 08 06:46:13 <tim241> how?
Jun 08 06:46:17 <Leeds> argh, no
Jun 08 06:46:27 <tim241> ??/
Jun 08 06:46:43 <tim241> (sorry )
Jun 08 06:47:04 <Leeds> install it properly... and at this point I'm going to wish you good luck and move on with my day
Jun 08 06:47:43 <tim241> how do I install it properly then? if I go to the site it flashes install through terminal and just reditect me
Jun 08 06:47:45 <tim241> ??
Jun 08 06:47:51 <tim241> I have linux BTW
Jun 08 06:48:00 <tim241> Leeds,
Jun 08 06:48:56 <tim241> I will follow this then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YNaxsUPwZc
Jun 08 06:50:37 <Leeds> or you could go to the Android Developers' site and click the download button
Jun 08 06:50:44 <Leeds> meh
Jun 08 06:51:41 <tim241> I did but it is not downloading then Leeds
Jun 08 06:51:58 <tim241> I accepted the agremment and pressed agree and download
Jun 08 06:52:22 <Leeds> consider this a good opportunity to practice your problem-solving skills... without me
Jun 08 06:52:37 <tim241> omg this is a site-problem
Jun 08 06:53:31 <tim241> wait:
Jun 08 06:53:39 <tim241> I dont have java
Jun 08 06:53:41 <tim241> LOL xD
Jun 08 06:54:27 <tim241> maybe that was the problem
Jun 08 06:54:36 <bolovanos> hithere
Jun 08 06:54:49 <tim241> hithere bolovanos ??
Jun 08 06:55:18 <tim241> maybe that was the problem
Jun 08 06:55:27 <tim241> Leeds, or not?
Jun 08 06:56:02 <bolovanos> timmy??
Jun 08 06:56:15 <tim241> yes?
Jun 08 06:56:28 <tim241> bolovanos, yes?
Jun 08 07:06:10 <min2> is there any shortcut key in AS to view the .java file directly at left side inside project pane?
Jun 08 07:10:47 <tim241_> SOMEONE? where can I download the sdk?
Jun 08 07:10:59 <deebo> from google, literally
Jun 08 07:11:09 <tim241_> I searched cant find it
Jun 08 07:11:19 <tim241_> I can only find android-studio
Jun 08 07:11:32 <deebo> then i don't think you can be helped
Jun 08 07:11:37 <raoul11> with android-studio you got the sdk manager.
Jun 08 07:11:42 <tim241_> ow so
Jun 08 07:11:45 <tim241_> ok
Jun 08 07:14:00 <bolovanos> min2, not sure what you need, I am using alt+1, typesearch, enter; that is rather direct edit than previou which you might thing of, isn't it?
Jun 08 07:14:35 <tim241_> finally
Jun 08 07:14:43 <tim241_> I can download android-studio
Jun 08 07:14:58 <tim241_> how much GB is it when installed?
Jun 08 07:17:50 <min2> bolovanos, I have a big package structure and its too nested in project pane at left side... now I need to find my class in package structure and directly want to reach there
Jun 08 07:20:47 <bolovanos> min2, problem with typesearch in project pane is that it does only search in expanded structures
Jun 08 07:21:13 <tim241_> I downloaded and unpacked the jdk but how do I point it? this is the error:
Jun 08 07:21:32 <tim241_> http://pastebin.com/9SLwW1JB
Jun 08 07:21:51 <bolovanos> min2, if you know what you are searchinf for than ctrl+shift+f with proper settings
Jun 08 07:24:50 <tim241_> am downloading the sdk now thanks
Jun 08 07:28:45 <tim241_> I have an error when installing android-studio: Unable to run mksdcard SDK tool.
Jun 08 07:31:57 <Leeds> tim241_: why are you installing AS rather than the plain SDK?
Jun 08 07:32:05 <min2> thanks bolovanos
Jun 08 07:32:09 <tim241_> as?
Jun 08 07:32:23 <tim241_> ow I cant find the plain SDK
Jun 08 07:32:28 <tim241_> Leeds, ^^
Jun 08 07:32:37 <Leeds> look harder
Jun 08 07:33:18 <tim241_> does it matter if I install as or just sdk ? no because as will download and install SDK and I cant find it
Jun 08 07:33:22 <tim241_> so :-(
Jun 08 07:33:29 <tim241_> give me a link then Leeds
Jun 08 07:33:49 <Leeds> no
Jun 08 07:33:51 <tim241_> ok
Jun 08 07:33:57 <tim241_> then I will just install as
Jun 08 07:34:00 <Leeds> I'm trying to teach you to fish
Jun 08 07:34:05 <tim241_> it does not matter anyway
Jun 08 07:34:12 <Leeds> although I don't know why I'm bothering - or why you ar
Jun 08 07:34:18 <tim241_> I knowhow to fish on internet
Jun 08 07:34:51 <skin1980> Hi guys, how can i show the text while speaking in ACTION_RECOGNIZE_SPEECH?
Jun 08 07:34:58 <tim241_> where will android studio install the sdk?
Jun 08 07:37:09 <bolovanos> min2, np
Jun 08 07:43:00 <raoul11> Tim241, if you installed android-studio: click on tools/android/sdk manager, it will also show you your sdk location
Jun 08 07:45:29 <Tim241> thanks
Jun 08 07:50:53 <Tomaz^W> Question: USing the NDK, reliable preprocessor to check if I'm compiling for arm64 ?
Jun 08 07:55:58 <Tim241> Leeds, still same error after installing the SDK and pointing to the sdk
Jun 08 07:57:51 <raoul11> k, this is weird. i was developing my app on the emulator, checked a few resolutions, all looking fine. now deployed to sgs4, and everything is alligned to the right
Jun 08 07:59:24 <raoul11> wow android:supportsRtl="true" <<
Jun 08 08:01:22 <Tim241> I have an error when building an apk from this tutorial: https://github.com/chenxiaolong/DualBootPatcher/blob/master/docs/BUILD-Android.md I tried to reinstall the SDk no luck :-( error: http://pastebin.com/TM9szkWK Please help me
Jun 08 08:07:01 <Chainfire> Tomaz^W #ifdef __aarch64__ ?
Jun 08 08:08:50 <Tomaz^W> Chainfire: thanks!
Jun 08 08:42:07 <gdrc> morning guys
Jun 08 08:42:23 <gdrc> is there any react native app channel here in freenode?
Jun 08 08:48:14 <spykins> hello everyone, I can get to use AndroidHttpClient in my project… the documentation says it was added in API level 8 but I changed my minSDKVersion from 16 to 17 …. After sync, I still can’t access the class .. Can someone suggest how I can get this to work?
Jun 08 08:52:40 <Ashiren> spykins: it was deprecated and remove in sdk 23
Jun 08 08:54:39 <spykins> Ashiren: Thanks, I am just watching a tutorial and I saw it. I have actually be using HttpURLConnection
Jun 08 09:02:34 <thepoosh> Ashiren: omg, just saw this question
Jun 08 09:02:38 <thepoosh> i have a bad feeling
Jun 08 09:03:01 <raoul11> hi, im having a problem with a gridlayout's children: http://i.imgur.com/BtqUrnf.png | the image, label, and other images are added to a relativelayout, which is then added to the gridlayout. the cyan background is set for the relativelayout, so we can see that that relativelayout width's too big
Jun 08 09:03:27 <Ashiren> thepoosh: ?
Jun 08 09:03:36 <thepoosh> 11:48 spykins: hello everyone, I can get to use AndroidHttpClient in my project… the documentation says it was added in API level 8 but I changed my minSDKVersion from 16 to 17 …. After sync, I still can’t access the class .. Can someone suggest how I can get this to work?
Jun 08 09:03:40 <thepoosh> this one
Jun 08 09:03:56 <Ashiren> i solved it didnt i
Jun 08 09:03:59 <Tim241> I fixed the ERROR!!!!
Jun 08 09:04:07 <Tim241> now I have an other error:
Jun 08 09:04:13 <thepoosh> raoul11: why are you adding imageviews to the relativelayout instead of to the adapter?
Jun 08 09:04:16 <thepoosh> Ashiren: :P
Jun 08 09:04:39 <Tim241> http://pastebin.com/s7X7XgPJ
Jun 08 09:04:42 <Tim241> please help me
Jun 08 09:04:51 <raoul11> what adapter thepoosh ?
Jun 08 09:05:20 <raoul11> each rel layout is suppose to be a cell in a gridlayout, each containing numerous elements
Jun 08 09:05:26 <raoul11> all done dynamically
Jun 08 09:13:02 <thepoosh> the issue you have is tha tthe layout is too big for the cell size?
Jun 08 09:13:06 <thepoosh> *that the
Jun 08 09:16:04 <raoul11> yes
Jun 08 09:16:11 <raoul11> trying to use layoutparams on it
Jun 08 09:16:15 <raoul11> but derping hard
Jun 08 09:16:48 <thepoosh> the layout cannot dynamically get smaller because you shoved too many things inside
Jun 08 09:16:59 <thepoosh> the sub views need to be dynamic inside for that
Jun 08 09:17:04 <thepoosh> wrap_content etc.
Jun 08 09:17:05 <raoul11> i want it to wrap to the contents on it
Jun 08 09:17:09 <raoul11> oh
Jun 08 09:18:19 <raoul11> but i would have done so in xml, id set the width/height of that relativelayout as wrap_content
Jun 08 09:20:21 <thepoosh> you can do that with RelativeLayout.LayoutParams
Jun 08 09:27:11 <raoul11> thepoosh, iv done some dirty hack with negative margins
Jun 08 09:27:18 <raoul11> guess it works /:
Jun 08 09:31:31 <fels> hi all
Jun 08 09:31:51 <raoul11> k, that doesnt work on diff resolutions
Jun 08 09:33:39 <fels> I've got what I think is a simple thing to do - On my start page I want o cycle through 3 full screen images - What is the correct and best way to do this ?
Jun 08 09:44:23 <Dagiosis> Anyone know how to restore efs file on s3
Jun 08 09:47:40 <jackcom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK7_S3MP2Nc
Jun 08 11:07:02 <sylon> if i have a list view (e.g. list of reddit items)  and details view (clicking on an item in the list to show more info).  What's the recommended way to structure code?  2 activities or 2 fragments in same activity?
Jun 08 11:22:21 <jonaskoeritz> I'd go with fragments, it will allow you to redesign for tablets more easily
Jun 08 11:22:30 <jonaskoeritz> e.g. display details next to the list
Jun 08 11:23:05 <sylon> jonaskoeritz: that's the general case i see mentioned in the android docs too but i want to understand if there are any other benefits
Jun 08 11:23:33 <jonaskoeritz> You can provide custom animations for transitions for example
Jun 08 11:24:40 <sylon> is there a good example / open source project that uses the fragment swapping way? i just want to see what the code looks like
Jun 08 11:24:48 <kknight> i want to get hold my old radio button in android app. how to do that?
Jun 08 11:25:01 <kknight> similar to question http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11052702/get-the-value-of-the-radio-button-that-was-selected-before-the-user-selects-a-ne
Jun 08 11:25:57 <kknight> anyone please...
Jun 08 11:26:46 <ondroed> thug life
Jun 08 11:28:30 <ondroed> so i load some html with script into webview. In that script i create global js object 'var thugLife = nShit;'. The question is how can i access that ibject later from android code?
Jun 08 11:29:16 <ondroed> i tried 'webView.loadUrl("javascript: window.thugLife.doSome()")'
Jun 08 11:29:23 <ondroed> but it does not work
Jun 08 11:29:25 <ondroed> people?
Jun 08 11:30:28 <jonaskoeritz> Please be patient...people might have to look that up too.
Jun 08 11:30:34 <purplex88> can I call a button a textview object?
Jun 08 11:30:37 <azgul> has anyone tried interacting with the SmartLock prompt through uiautomator or espresso? can't seem to make either find the 'never' button.. or the dialog
Jun 08 11:31:36 <jonaskoeritz> ondroed:does it work when you remove the leading space in your loadUrl before "window"?
Jun 08 11:32:30 <jonaskoeritz> ondroed webView KitKat+ also has evaluateJavascript() as a method
Jun 08 11:33:10 <ondroed> jonaskoeritz: no it does not - without space - same result
Jun 08 11:33:43 <ondroed> actualy i have youtube player in iframe, and i want to get it current time
Jun 08 11:34:22 <ondroed> so i want to call js: t = player.getCurrentTime(); android.currentTimeCallback(t)
Jun 08 11:35:45 <jonaskoeritz> do you just call a function doing both or do you call js:player..;andr..
Jun 08 11:35:46 <jonaskoeritz> ?
Jun 08 11:36:30 <ondroed> for now i just do webView.loadUrl("javascript:window.player.stopVideo()")
Jun 08 11:37:31 <jonaskoeritz> Have you already tried window.evaluateJavaScript("player.stopVideo();", null);?
Jun 08 11:39:09 <ondroed> compiling....
Jun 08 11:41:05 <ondroed> not work
Jun 08 11:41:09 <ondroed> ;(
Jun 08 11:41:30 <jonaskoeritz> are you able to get the console output of the webview?
Jun 08 11:43:04 <ondroed> able
Jun 08 11:45:38 <raoul11> question: if i resize an imageview/imagebutton with scale, how can i wrap_content to the new dimensions?
Jun 08 12:01:33 <thepoosh> raoul11: sounds like you need scaleType
Jun 08 12:01:40 <thepoosh> center_inside
Jun 08 12:02:27 <raoul11> rgr tht
Jun 08 12:02:32 <raoul11> used fit_center
Jun 08 12:04:56 <thepoosh> oh myyy
Jun 08 12:08:41 <raoul11> thepoosh, still having a hardtime with this gridlayout
Jun 08 12:08:56 <raoul11> cells are just too big
Jun 08 12:09:04 <thepoosh> sux for you
Jun 08 12:09:50 <raoul11> -for+tobe
Jun 08 12:19:00 <purplex88> android:id="@+id/textView" this line should generate an id called textView in R.java. Why cannot I find the ID?
Jun 08 12:20:05 <teasp00n> purplex88: what error are you getting?
Jun 08 12:20:45 <purplex88> no error, I just cannot find 'textView' in R.java is it done at runtime?
Jun 08 12:21:42 <rosten> afaik R is generated in the default (i.e. your project) package, are you trying to access the resource from another package or subpackage?
Jun 08 12:22:34 <purplex88> Ah, nevermind when I compiled the project I can see it there now.
Jun 08 12:23:01 <purplex88> I thought it adds it to file on the fly as we write
Jun 08 12:24:40 <purplex88> So, If I understand now @ references it and '+' adds it and id/ specifies the name
Jun 08 12:25:20 <AlexBerdnikov> Hi guys! What open source apps you can recommend as an example of good structured and architected android application?
Jun 08 12:26:09 <AlexBerdnikov> I'm especially interested in hardly networking ones
Jun 08 12:26:27 <rosten> purplex88: yes, you can only create it once with the plus sign afaik, access it in code using R.id.your_id and reference it in xml using the at sign
Jun 08 12:28:04 <rosten> purplex88: if in a different package/subpackage you have to import the resource file, import com.your.domain.R;
Jun 08 12:29:27 <purplex88> rosten: What about the "android:"? its specified in multiple places such as "xmlns:android" and "android:id"
Jun 08 12:29:59 <rosten> that's the android namespace
Jun 08 12:41:48 <markyosullivan> Can you define a layout depending on the height of a phone?
Jun 08 12:42:54 <markyosullivan> I know you can do it with the width, just wondering if it's possible with the height as well. I'm developing an app for a Nexus 6P but it doesn't fit on a Nexus 4 and so would need a vertical scroll bar for the Nexus 4 and other similar phones.
Jun 08 12:43:19 <markyosullivan> I don't see the point in adding a scroll bar for phones which are long enough
Jun 08 12:44:23 <purplex88> rosten: any idea why it is required and is it defined elsewhere in file?
Jun 08 12:48:19 <wviana> Dealing with rotation is by far the worst thing I ever done in android. If it's a MVC as some people defend, it shouldn't kill the Activity.
Jun 08 12:49:16 <jonaskoeritz> You could tell the system that you meant to handle screen changes for yourself by specifying android:configChanges="orientation|screenSize" in the <activity> tag.
Jun 08 12:49:26 <jonaskoeritz> This way your activity will not get dropped on rotation
Jun 08 12:51:00 <akshitkumar1> Hey, I am new to andriod development and need some help with an application I am trying to build. Could someone please help me out?
Jun 08 12:51:11 <jonaskoeritz> sure
Jun 08 12:52:18 <akshitkumar1> jonaskoeritz: Thanks :) So I am trying to build a basic android app which can take photos very X seconds without the user clicking any buttons - sort of remotely.
Jun 08 12:57:02 <wviana> jonaskoeritz: Complicate scenarios is this the default approach (handle rotation by your self)?
Jun 08 12:58:57 <jonaskoeritz> wviana: i dont understand your question
Jun 08 12:59:46 <azv4> I guess I need to take the plunge and convert from ant to gradle
Jun 08 13:00:35 <wviana> jonaskoeritz: It it common to use DIY to handle config changes when recreating activity need more than just put some values into a bundle ?
Jun 08 13:01:07 <wviana> I've tried to retain instance in my fragments. But didn't worked as well.
Jun 08 13:01:25 <jonaskoeritz> savedInstanceState is the preferred way i think
Jun 08 13:01:32 <wviana> Will try the DIY for configuration changes.
Jun 08 13:04:59 <wviana> Here a have a activity that creates Layer objects (three of them) , than I put the Layers into a addLayer method. This method call the addLayer in the MapFragment and add the Layer::getView into the SideBarFragment by addView method. As I dynamic inflate/add views into the SideBarFragment, when it restores it hasn't the layer view, as far as it destroys the fragment.
Jun 08 13:07:21 <jonaskoeritz> thats far too complicated to discuss in text only (without code), whats your native language?
Jun 08 13:09:18 <wviana> jonaskoeritz: Portuguese. I'm been so far from expressing what I'm trying to ?
Jun 08 13:09:39 <wviana> am I been * right
Jun 08 13:09:55 <jonaskoeritz> wviana: i'm having a hard time understanding your exact problems. Lets talk in private
Jun 08 13:54:23 <markyosullivan> What's the easiest way to connect an Android app to a pre-existing rest API
Jun 08 13:54:45 <tx> Using a library
Jun 08 13:54:48 <tx> like retrofit
Jun 08 13:54:52 <tx> or many others
Jun 08 13:58:19 <dragorn> yeah.  at the least, okhttp or similar library, but there's stuff to automap json, etc, like retrofit
Jun 08 14:03:38 <fels> dragorn: i was looking for autom json mapper didn't find naything - I ended up having to code JsonObject....took a while finally got it done
Jun 08 14:03:58 <dragorn> fels, retrofit
Jun 08 14:04:39 <fels> I looked at that just now dragorn based on tx comment - seems like it would have helped. :(
Jun 08 14:07:02 <dragorn> i think there's a few other libs, they basically all plug into introspection in java
Jun 08 14:24:27 <markyosullivan> tx dragorn do you not have to be familiar with RxJava to use Retrofit?
Jun 08 14:24:36 <tx> no
Jun 08 14:24:38 <tx> not at all
Jun 08 14:24:46 <dragorn> not the last time I looked at it, no
Jun 08 14:25:06 <markyosullivan> I looked at the example and it looked different to typical Java code I'm used to
Jun 08 14:25:17 <markyosullivan> Sorry
Jun 08 14:25:19 <markyosullivan> I meant Dagger 2
Jun 08 14:25:22 <markyosullivan> not Retrofit
Jun 08 14:41:22 <Thorbear> markyosullivan: There is not really any connection between RxJava and Dagger 2 either. The fact that it looks different to "typical Java code" doesn't really link anything to RxJava.
Jun 08 14:49:11 <markyosullivan> I didn't mean RxJava
Jun 08 14:55:56 <t0th_-_> hi, i have http://pastebin.com/QLnHThSB in my gradle, but i cant import com.android.support.test, can help me?
Jun 08 14:58:00 <thepoosh> t0th_-_: https://google.github.io/android-testing-support-library/docs/espresso/setup/
Jun 08 14:58:06 <thepoosh> have you read this?
Jun 08 14:58:13 <t0th_-_> yes
Jun 08 15:00:29 <thepoosh> seems like you're pointing to the wrong artifact
Jun 08 15:00:38 <thepoosh> said there runner:0.5
Jun 08 15:00:42 <thepoosh> and not what you had
Jun 08 15:00:59 <thepoosh> also, are you applying the android plugin?
Jun 08 15:01:33 <tx> thepoosh: Have you ever used the SDK without eclipse/android studio
Jun 08 15:02:01 <thepoosh> tx: not really, I like using my IDE
Jun 08 15:02:21 <tx> Hm, I am having a bit of an issue ,I am trying to get the SDK installed on a CI runner we have here
Jun 08 15:02:27 <tx> it never seems to save the SDK components
Jun 08 15:02:32 <tx> just downloads them and forgets them
Jun 08 15:03:41 <thepoosh> well, that depends on the ci you're using
Jun 08 15:03:52 <thepoosh> I know we have a ci running our build machine and it's fine
Jun 08 15:05:08 <tx> hmm
Jun 08 15:05:22 <tx> the CI isn't really the issue, I can reproduce it without the runner executing the scripts
Jun 08 15:05:30 <tx> (by running the scripts as the runner user by hand)
Jun 08 15:05:47 <thepoosh> after sshing to the CI machine?
Jun 08 15:05:51 <tx> yeah
Jun 08 15:05:56 <tx> (ofc)
Jun 08 15:06:11 <tx> I will take another gander tomorrow at work.
Jun 08 15:06:19 <thepoosh> mmkay
Jun 08 15:36:58 <g00s> nice https://github.com/strooooke/appbarsyncedfab
Jun 08 15:43:35 <g00s> new android gradle book http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032656.do
Jun 08 15:43:56 <g00s> says early access, think today its finished though
Jun 08 15:44:27 <orbyt_> been trying to get into reading more paper books
Jun 08 15:44:42 <orbyt_> finally just bought an actual book for the first time in idk how long
Jun 08 15:45:17 <orbyt_> not android related tho
Jun 08 15:45:47 <g00s> orbyt_ gotta keep fighting for that attention span  ;)
Jun 08 15:46:03 <orbyt_> meh, i enjoy multitasking tho. and am very good at it
Jun 08 15:46:24 <g00s> its one of those things people think they are good at, but then get tested to find out they arent
Jun 08 15:46:26 <g00s> haha
Jun 08 15:46:36 <g00s> 'i'm pretty good driving drunk too :)'
Jun 08 15:46:43 <orbyt_> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jun 08 15:49:49 <g00s> dragorn bluetooth 5 ...
Jun 08 15:53:46 <dragorn> g00s, haven't looked really
Jun 08 15:54:29 <g00s> dragorn https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11860383
Jun 08 15:58:01 * pfn orders up a new ac
Jun 08 16:32:59 <gdev> Hi, I trying to implement an  BottomSheetDialogFragment and the basic layout work. But if I swipe up, the bottomsheet does not expand. How to enable this?? (Android Support Libraries)
Jun 08 16:35:44 <eghdk> I'm trying to make a lot of my plain old java methods testable. I'm starting to remove dependencies inside of the methods also, so now I have big argument lists (that's fine). But my real question is... at this point... every method that I'm working on making more testable is becoming a static method. Any thoughts on that
Jun 08 16:39:47 <barq> How are you testing static methods?
Jun 08 16:41:33 <s73v3r> eghdk: it sounds like you’re approaching this from more of a method centric approach rather than an object or class centric approach
Jun 08 16:53:42 <eghdk> barq: I'm testing static methods by putting things in and asserting what comes out. Example: A Calc class that just has static util methods for add, subtract and stuff. So I test putting two values in and asserting the rest
Jun 08 16:54:08 <orbyt_> pfn u on
Jun 08 16:54:16 <pfn> what
Jun 08 16:55:01 <orbyt_> http://prntscr.com/bdxqx2
Jun 08 16:55:12 <orbyt_> im assuming thats what you were suggesting to do yesterday evening
Jun 08 16:55:17 <orbyt_> right??
Jun 08 16:56:40 <pfn> no
Jun 08 16:56:46 <orbyt_> well shit
Jun 08 16:56:53 <s73v3r> orbyt_: Why jump through so many hoops? Why not have one project that’s just the SDK, and another project that’s just the sample app which uses the SDK as a jar or aar?
Jun 08 16:56:55 <pfn> it should be contained within the root project, not in a separate tree
Jun 08 16:57:46 <orbyt_> s73v3r: because lets say i make a quick update to the sdk. I would have to build the .aar and copy+paste it into my sample apps /lib directory
Jun 08 16:57:57 <s73v3r> ok. and?
Jun 08 16:58:05 <orbyt_> and this way i dont have to
Jun 08 16:58:14 <s73v3r> can’t be worse than these hoops you’ve been jumping through the past few days
Jun 08 16:58:51 <orbyt_> i test changes after almost every one
Jun 08 16:58:59 <orbyt_> so thats alot of copy+paste
Jun 08 16:59:24 <s73v3r> you can set up a script to copy the aar into the destination
Jun 08 16:59:37 <orbyt_> this issue is just from yesterday as they decided they wanted a different structure for the project lel
Jun 08 16:59:45 <barq> eghdk: what testing framework
Jun 08 16:59:45 <orbyt_> i had a sweet workflow going before
Jun 08 16:59:56 <orbyt_> s73v3r: how is that better than my current solution?
Jun 08 17:00:21 <s73v3r> well, for one, you won’t have to spend 3 days setting it up
Jun 08 17:00:25 <eghdk> barq: JUnit. Just trying to test my plain old java code for correctness.
Jun 08 17:00:36 <orbyt_> s73v3r: just said this was from yesterday
Jun 08 17:00:48 <s73v3r> you’ve been asking about this since monday
Jun 08 17:00:49 <orbyt_> and i just got into work
Jun 08 17:00:52 <orbyt_> about this?
Jun 08 17:00:54 <orbyt_> no i havent
Jun 08 17:19:02 <da3m0n22> is it possible to manually find out reason for "your device is corrupt" notification ? it's very annoying, even if everything in CM works
Jun 08 17:19:15 <da3m0n22> sry, wrong channel, disregard
Jun 08 17:21:54 <Ashiren> aww
Jun 08 17:28:32 <explodes> Protip: newrelic makes your build time 3x
Jun 08 17:28:48 <explodes> you can disable the code-rewriting it does in debug builds
Jun 08 17:29:08 <explodes> https://discuss.newrelic.com/t/disable-new-relic-for-android-debug-builds/34654
Jun 08 17:30:12 <Ashiren> whats newrelic? probably dont need it ~
Jun 08 17:30:46 <g00s> yeah never heard of it
Jun 08 17:30:57 <explodes> Network traffic monitoring
Jun 08 17:31:28 <Ashiren> so if i disable it ill build faster?
Jun 08 17:31:30 <Ashiren> woo
Jun 08 17:31:49 <explodes> You add it in yourself, though. SO if you don't have it this isn't going to help you
Jun 08 17:31:58 <Ashiren> ohhh
Jun 08 17:34:30 <s73v3r> hey, where does one go to report bugs in Android N?
Jun 08 17:35:51 <g00s> b.android.com
Jun 08 17:36:55 <g00s> https://developer.android.com/preview/bug
Jun 08 17:37:26 <g00s> ugh i hate adobe shitware
Jun 08 17:55:49 <Thorbear> markyosullivan: Ok, so you actually wondered if you needed to be familiar with Dagger 2 to use Retrofit? Either way, you don't need to be familiar with any of those libraries to use any other of them. Dagger 2 and Retrofit both use annotations to reduce amount of boilerplate code, Retrofit and RxJava both have loads of automagic thread handling (and Retrofit supports RxJava if you want that).
Jun 08 18:06:48 <sleepster> For debugging purposes, I'd like to send my service some kind of signal to dump its current state to logcat
Jun 08 18:07:12 <sleepster> is there a recommended approach for this?  ideally, this signal should be able to be sent by command line
Jun 08 18:07:54 <sleepster> so I don't have to minimize my app from the phone and therefore alter its state
Jun 08 18:09:24 <Leeds> you can send an intent from the am cli tool
Jun 08 18:09:27 <bitkiller> sleepster, i remember seeing something about sending a broadcast using cli
Jun 08 18:10:32 <bitkiller> sleepster, what i said is the same as Leeds
Jun 08 18:11:10 <sleepster> thanks for the help guys
Jun 08 18:11:20 <sleepster> so I would just register the receiver in the service
Jun 08 18:11:25 <sleepster> and then send it via command line
Jun 08 18:11:56 <Leeds> yup
Jun 08 18:13:13 <deodev> I want to start programming Android apps - what materials, websites?
Jun 08 18:13:31 <s73v3r> d.android.com
Jun 08 18:13:44 <s73v3r> what have you actually searched for prior to asking?
Jun 08 18:15:17 <Leeds> deodev: do you know Java?
Jun 08 18:15:35 <deodev> a bit - c# my primary
Jun 08 18:15:56 <s73v3r> you’d be better served by learning java first
Jun 08 18:15:58 <gdev> maybe you don't see sharp enough for java :D
Jun 08 18:16:25 <s73v3r> instantrimshot.com
Jun 08 18:16:34 <deodev> heh java is easy - almost same as javascript
Jun 08 18:16:42 <s73v3r> no
Jun 08 18:16:48 <Leeds> er... what?
Jun 08 18:16:50 <bitkiller> lol
Jun 08 18:16:54 <s73v3r> it’s not hard, but it’s nothing like js
Jun 08 18:17:18 <gdev> s73v3r: ^^
Jun 08 18:17:43 <deodev> its just java...
Jun 08 18:17:52 <deodev> what about apps
Jun 08 18:18:05 <bitkiller> apps are just... apps
Jun 08 18:18:10 <deodev> any library or stuff thats I must use? where is gui?
Jun 08 18:18:35 <s73v3r> have you done any research at all?
Jun 08 18:18:36 <Leeds> there is no gui
Jun 08 18:18:48 <Leeds> you just blit to the video buffer
Jun 08 18:18:49 <s73v3r> d.android.com
Jun 08 18:19:08 <deodev> what? what u mean no gui??
Jun 08 18:19:17 <s73v3r> d.android.com
Jun 08 18:19:19 <Leeds> i mean no gui
Jun 08 18:19:21 <s73v3r> go there
Jun 08 18:20:04 <Leeds> really, go thee
Jun 08 18:20:09 <Leeds> there, thou
Jun 08 18:20:19 <deodev> ok what os they use
Jun 08 18:20:38 <bitkiller> or here: google.com
Jun 08 18:20:53 <deodev> im ms guy mainly
Jun 08 18:21:03 <s73v3r> GO TO THE GOD DAMNED DEVELOPER SITE
Jun 08 18:21:07 <gdev> android studio is OS indipendent.
Jun 08 18:21:09 <deodev> just starting and
Jun 08 18:21:23 <s73v3r> AND YOU’RE NOT GOING TO THE GOD DAMNED DEVELOPER SITE
Jun 08 18:21:27 <deodev> im there - quiet your caps
Jun 08 18:21:39 <s73v3r> seriously, this is asked every fucking day
Jun 08 18:21:48 <s73v3r> did you do absolutely no research before asking?
Jun 08 18:21:51 <deodev> heh sorry
Jun 08 18:22:05 <deodev> please dont sass me
Jun 08 18:22:26 <s73v3r> then do your fucking basic research
Jun 08 18:22:34 <bitkiller> i see people complaining that this channel is anti-social... but man, look at that
Jun 08 18:22:38 <deodev> easier to ask
Jun 08 18:22:44 <s73v3r> no, it isn't
Jun 08 18:22:49 <deodev> if you deal with helpfull people
Jun 08 18:22:50 <hghar> this is a bit outdated but it can serve you https://colabug.gitbooks.io/intro-to-android/content/index.html
Jun 08 18:23:03 <SimonVT> s73v3r: Please calm down and watch your language
Jun 08 18:23:13 <s73v3r> you’re not asking for “helpful” people, you’re asking for people to do your work for you
Jun 08 18:23:40 <s73v3r> SimonVT: sorry. but we do honestly get this same stuff multiple times a day
Jun 08 18:23:56 <s73v3r> maybe it should be in the welcome message
Jun 08 18:24:06 <SimonVT> Sure, but please keep it civil
Jun 08 18:24:26 <bitkiller> english is not my first language, thus i've just learned a new word: layabout
Jun 08 18:24:50 <deodev> mine too its second lang
Jun 08 18:25:02 <deodev> primitive thou
Jun 08 18:25:07 <SimonVT> Nothing will help. Every developer knows to check the official documentation. But those aren't the people who ask
Jun 08 18:25:27 <argentum> haha, this conversation is just great
Jun 08 18:25:39 <deodev> im just lazy with those online spagetti courses
Jun 08 18:25:42 <argentum> "any library or stuff thats I must use? where is gui?"
Jun 08 18:25:49 <argentum> guys, where is gui!?!?!
Jun 08 18:25:56 <Leeds> "how is babby formed?"
Jun 08 18:25:59 <bitkiller> then you have to deal with your laziness first
Jun 08 18:26:02 <deodev> lol
Jun 08 18:26:12 <deodev> on win I just use wpf or others
Jun 08 18:26:20 <deodev> on Android ???
Jun 08 18:26:25 <argentum> use your brain
Jun 08 18:26:27 <argentum> and read
Jun 08 18:26:30 <argentum> d.android.com
Jun 08 18:26:32 <deodev> I guess they must write their own gui
Jun 08 18:27:08 <w4ffles> gooey?
Jun 08 18:27:18 <argentum> you figured out how to use an IRC client, so that's *somewhat* promising that you can read from a browser
Jun 08 18:27:46 <deodev> gooi
Jun 08 18:27:52 <gdev> Just started enjoing that IRC session
Jun 08 18:28:27 <deodev> how about xamarin studio?
Jun 08 18:28:40 <argentum> how about trucks?
Jun 08 18:29:01 <deodev> instead of android studio
Jun 08 18:29:15 <s73v3r> if you want to use xamarin, sure
Jun 08 18:29:44 <Leeds> http://www.engadget.com/2016/06/08/apple-app-store-subscriptions
Jun 08 18:30:11 <s73v3r> I really hope they do some serious updates to the iOS and Mac App Stores
Jun 08 18:30:20 <s73v3r> then I hope that Google will shamelessly copy them
Jun 08 18:30:26 <deodev> apple sales dropping
Jun 08 18:30:37 <Leeds> subscriptions for apps, with the revenue split changing to 85/15 after a year of continuous subscription
Jun 08 18:30:39 <s73v3r> they’re still at infinity billion dollars
Jun 08 18:30:56 <argentum> I work in an consulting shop that also does iOS/OS X development -- believe me, developers all want major changes, too
Jun 08 18:31:25 <argentum> lots of people are unhappy with the whole process, especially Mac App Store
Jun 08 18:31:29 <s73v3r> i wonder if these app subscription thingies are in response to places like Sketch and JetBrains moving to a subscription model
Jun 08 18:31:59 <deodev> have no idea what apple is doing - android looks better
Jun 08 18:32:14 <w4ffles> Ads in the appstore :x
Jun 08 18:32:14 <argentum> they're in need of fundamental fixes, you still can't charge for new versions without creating an entirely new app, for example
Jun 08 18:32:15 <s73v3r> store wise? They’re both doing about the same thing
Jun 08 18:32:15 <Leeds> it's a way to turn users into a revenue stream rather than a big bang
Jun 08 18:32:40 <Leeds> seems like a bad idea from a user PoV
Jun 08 18:32:56 <s73v3r> argentum: I have a friend who does a Mac application. He’d love to use the App Store, but it just doesn’t allow you to know your customers
Jun 08 18:33:09 <argentum> it doesn't allow a lot
Jun 08 18:33:09 <deodev> apple should add two more buttons on bottom lol
Jun 08 18:33:29 <s73v3r> it doesn’t let you do things like offer a discount for existing customers on an update
Jun 08 18:33:42 <argentum> the momentum on the Mac is clearly moving away from the App Store
Jun 08 18:33:46 <s73v3r> deodev: I think Apple is doing just fine having one button
Jun 08 18:34:13 <g00s> argentum just reading about app store 2.0, we'll hear more at wwdc
Jun 08 18:34:28 <s73v3r> argentum: considering how easy it is to just not use the App Store, they really need to revamp it on the Mac side
Jun 08 18:34:32 <deodev> yeah so far they are just removing stuff like earphone plug
Jun 08 18:34:37 <argentum> g00s you have more information than just the updated subscriptions?
Jun 08 18:34:57 <g00s> s73v3r argentum just http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/8/11880730/apple-app-store-subscription-update-phil-schiller-interview
Jun 08 18:35:07 <g00s> what i'd like is paid updates, on google play also
Jun 08 18:35:28 <g00s> amazing the gate keepers are so lame in these features
Jun 08 18:35:31 <s73v3r> agreed.
Jun 08 18:35:49 <deodev> greed will kill apple
Jun 08 18:36:06 <s73v3r> doubt it
Jun 08 18:36:45 <s73v3r> I would like to see the different app stores unified, so one could buy the app on OS X, and get the companion mobile app bundled with it
Jun 08 18:37:10 <deodev> MS wants to unify XBox and Win app strores
Jun 08 18:37:16 <s73v3r> i’d also like much better discovery
Jun 08 18:37:44 * CPlusC wants to edit an apk file and rename application name and desctiption and edit some xml files and install this... elp to edit it
Jun 08 18:37:45 <g00s> sad to see windows phone really doing bad
Jun 08 18:37:57 <azv4> reminds me of being annoyed that I paid $60 to play Overwatch on my Xbox One but they want me to pay another $60 to play it on my PC
Jun 08 18:38:01 <g00s> CPlusC wrong channel, this is dev not reversing
Jun 08 18:38:03 <tx> CPlusC: you can do that
Jun 08 18:38:07 <tx> it just wont be signed
Jun 08 18:38:11 <tx> also that etc etc
Jun 08 18:38:47 <tx> azv4: If you only got it on steam
Jun 08 18:38:54 <tx> you could play it with your xbox controller
Jun 08 18:39:02 <tx> too bad steam and blizzard do not get along
Jun 08 18:39:03 <tx> :(
Jun 08 18:39:10 <CPlusC> okay, how can i sign that? which channel can help me?
Jun 08 18:39:15 <tx> Would be good to get big picture integration.
Jun 08 18:39:20 <s73v3r> maybe android-root
Jun 08 18:39:28 <s73v3r> but what you’re doing is incredibly sketchy
Jun 08 18:39:46 <azv4> trying to update an asp webpage as requested by my boss today, never touched any asp in my life, and Im ready to break stuff over my head
Jun 08 18:40:40 <g00s> azv4 welcome to android, you don't have to worry about breaking stuff because its already broken. so should be less stress
Jun 08 18:40:52 <azv4> g00s, :)
Jun 08 18:41:00 <deodev> I programmed asp
Jun 08 18:41:06 <tx> lol
Jun 08 18:41:13 <deodev> asp.net or classic azv4
Jun 08 18:41:19 <azv4> deodev, classic
Jun 08 18:41:25 <deodev> geez - thats old
Jun 08 18:41:34 <azv4> everything here is old
Jun 08 18:41:44 <deodev> u need to learn bit of vb5/6
Jun 08 18:41:46 <azv4> I'm in the middle of learning VB6 also...
Jun 08 18:41:54 <tx> azv4: don't fret
Jun 08 18:41:58 <azv4> I know a fair amount of VB6/VBA, not a ton
Jun 08 18:42:01 <deodev> but it is eazy
Jun 08 18:42:04 <s73v3r> that sounds like pain
Jun 08 18:42:06 <tx> a week ago a friend of mine had to convert  website that ran off an excel spreadsheet
Jun 08 18:42:11 <tx> to something a bit more tennable
Jun 08 18:42:31 <deodev> I know how painfull it is - my last contract was nightmare with asp
Jun 08 18:42:47 <s73v3r> the Excel Macro is the worst thing that Microsoft has ever wrought upon this world
Jun 08 18:43:21 <deodev> go to any warehoure thats 20years old - you will se a twilight zone
Jun 08 18:43:31 <g00s> hm. excel macros are just functional programming brought to MBAs :)
Jun 08 18:43:40 <azv4> this job requires expertise in: Android Studio, JAva, XCode, Objective C, C#, VB.net, VB6, VBA, ASP classic, T-SQL, and a few I'm too annoyed to remember right now
Jun 08 18:44:05 <g00s> VB6 lol
Jun 08 18:44:08 <deodev> lol - u lead dev or what?
Jun 08 18:44:08 <g00s> what is VBA ?
Jun 08 18:44:16 <azv4> Visual Basic for Applications
Jun 08 18:44:27 <azv4> it is a scripting language
Jun 08 18:44:34 <deodev> Im c# master
Jun 08 18:44:52 <azv4> C# is one of my stronger languages, I'm pretty green out of school though
Jun 08 18:45:05 <azv4> and Im struggling so hard at this job, fortunately they are willing to allow me to learn on the job
Jun 08 18:45:11 <azv4> but I have zero internal support
Jun 08 18:45:19 <s73v3r> azv4: I’m guessing that, along with requiring expertise in every technology under the sun, it also pays peanuts?
Jun 08 18:45:25 <deodev> then dont take very complex work - you will destroy business - seen it
Jun 08 18:45:47 <deodev> best is MVC oe Rest
Jun 08 18:45:54 <azv4> s73v3r, yes, legal minimum healthcare, no PTO, less than 1/2 the industry median pay
Jun 08 18:45:59 <deodev> I love winapps too
Jun 08 18:45:59 <orbyt_> mvc or rest
Jun 08 18:46:01 <orbyt_> what
Jun 08 18:46:03 <orbyt_> that makes 0 sense
Jun 08 18:46:17 <deodev> when it comes to websites
Jun 08 18:46:19 <s73v3r> deodev: they’re not going to destroy the business, then. The business is going to destroy itself
Jun 08 18:46:27 <deodev> hehe
Jun 08 18:46:52 <deodev> webapi I meant
Jun 08 18:47:23 <deodev> though MVC has a lot of built in stuff
Jun 08 18:47:49 <s73v3r> azv4: If they’re paying shit, don’t feel bad about taking a long time to do things
Jun 08 18:48:09 <azv4> s73v3r, I don't feel real bad, but I get alot of heat from time to time
Jun 08 18:48:17 <deodev> but then he'll have bad references
Jun 08 18:48:30 <azv4> is <% asp or javascript?
Jun 08 18:48:39 <azv4> I dont even know wtf Im looking at here lol
Jun 08 18:48:40 <s73v3r> unlikely. most places don’t do more than confirm you worked from Day 1 to Day xs
Jun 08 18:49:08 <deodev> I need better job...
Jun 08 18:49:15 <deodev> bored of programming
Jun 08 18:50:14 <deodev> lately im interested in RE stuff
Jun 08 18:50:19 <orbyt_> ?
Jun 08 18:50:28 <deodev> reverse engineering
Jun 08 18:51:09 <azv4> I'm close to that point where a person is just so pissed off they don't even understand things they read
Jun 08 18:51:32 <deodev> dealing with users is harder than programming
Jun 08 18:51:33 <s73v3r> maybe start floating your resume around
Jun 08 18:51:59 <azv4> s73v3r, I'd love to, but I live in an area where only a couple programming jobs in the whole county
Jun 08 18:52:10 <s73v3r> remote work?
Jun 08 18:52:12 <azv4> s73v3r, and I can't really leave the area due to some circumstances
Jun 08 18:52:23 <azv4> s73v3r, you hiring someone to do remote work right now?
Jun 08 18:52:40 <s73v3r> I’m not, but there are places that are
Jun 08 18:53:02 <azv4> I have an Associates Degree and 15 months experience heh...
Jun 08 18:53:06 <deodev> im doing remote now
Jun 08 18:53:16 <deodev> pays shyte thou
Jun 08 18:53:17 <azv4> I fell like I'm dang lucky to even have this job
Jun 08 18:53:26 <s73v3r> don’t
Jun 08 18:53:35 <s73v3r> they hired you because they needed you
Jun 08 18:53:56 <azv4> it took them over a year to hire me after the guy I replaced left
Jun 08 18:54:03 <deodev> yes azv4 - have some higher self esteem
Jun 08 18:54:09 <azv4> they can't find programmers in this small town in this dead county
Jun 08 18:54:11 <s73v3r> doesn’t matter. they decided they needed you
Jun 08 18:54:30 <s73v3r> probably because many programmers are not working in small towns
Jun 08 18:54:36 <s73v3r> if anything, they were lucky to find you
Jun 08 18:54:41 <deodev> most of ceos are dumber than you think
Jun 08 18:55:12 <s73v3r> I don’t know if I’d say that. the management at their company probably knows exactly what they’re doing
Jun 08 18:55:32 <deodev> if those are women - they probably dont
Jun 08 18:55:53 <s73v3r> yeah, no. that kind of sexist crap isn’t welcome here
Jun 08 18:56:11 <deodev> it is not sexist
Jun 08 18:56:19 <s73v3r> yes, it was
Jun 08 18:56:20 <deodev> just experience
Jun 08 18:56:24 <deodev> lol
Jun 08 18:56:30 <s73v3r> if you looked up sexism in the dictionary, you’d see your statement there
Jun 08 18:56:50 <deodev> doesnt relate to reality
Jun 08 18:56:54 <deodev> whatever
Jun 08 18:57:07 <deodev> some women are super intelligent
Jun 08 18:57:17 <deodev> but most are not good for IT
Jun 08 18:57:28 <s73v3r> and I’ve had the exact opposite experience
Jun 08 18:57:45 <s73v3r> I’ve known women who are great for IT, but they leave because of people like you
Jun 08 18:58:06 <azv4> I've found most senior women in IT to be very competent but very difficult to get along with for some reason, probably more me than them, but I dont know
Jun 08 18:58:10 <deodev> Ive seen women destroy companies and fire people because of their ego
Jun 08 18:58:14 <azv4> I worked in IT for years before getting into programming
Jun 08 18:58:20 <s73v3r> and I’ve seen men do the same thing. your point?
Jun 08 18:58:21 <deodev> and stubborness
Jun 08 18:58:33 <s73v3r> in fact, i’ve probably seen more men do it
Jun 08 18:58:36 <deodev> women act on emotions - not logic
Jun 08 18:58:41 <deodev> IT= logic
Jun 08 18:58:43 <s73v3r> no more than men
Jun 08 18:58:47 <dragorn> I would suggest going back to topic
Jun 08 18:58:54 <kaervos> *cheer*
Jun 08 18:58:57 <s73v3r> thank you
Jun 08 18:58:59 <dragorn> or that.  that works better. :)
Jun 08 18:59:08 <SimonVT> o/
Jun 08 18:59:13 <azv4> seems a bit extreme, but understandable
Jun 08 19:00:37 <curtan> I know many women who are programmers
Jun 08 19:00:58 <azv4> my favorite professor at college was a woman, and she was the best programmer I've met
Jun 08 19:01:31 <s73v3r> I’m not lying when I know several that would be good at it, or were good at it, and left because of the attitudes of people like him
Jun 08 19:02:43 <s73v3r> but, back to topic. let’s hope that any announced changes to Apple’s App Stores will quickly make their way to the Play Store as well
Jun 08 19:03:07 <azv4> My boss thinks this is a super easy modification.  But I have to learn at least the basics of classic ASP and Javascript
Jun 08 19:03:12 <s73v3r> especially ones that make it easier to discover stuff, and easier to sell stuff
Jun 08 19:03:49 <azv4> I really wish they could come up with a truly unified mobile platform
Jun 08 19:04:09 <s73v3r> azv4: It might be easy for someone who knows the system, but like you said, you need to learn the system first
Jun 08 19:06:20 <bitkiller> IT is logic? IT is politics. Or, some sort of strange logic
Jun 08 19:07:28 <bitkiller> we've just been kicked out from a project because we did our part... too fast
Jun 08 19:07:43 <azv4> did it work?
Jun 08 19:08:10 <azv4> did you do it outside the scope of work in some way?
Jun 08 19:08:10 <s73v3r> doesn’t matter. by doing it too fast, they deprived the unit from additional revenue
Jun 08 19:08:17 <eghdk> Anyone here familiar with RxJava? Got an interesting issue. First time using Rx, so I might be making a noob mistake. But basically I added a Thread.sleep() in one of my methods to see if my method call happens on the main thread or not and I got interesting results. http://pastebin.com/GzGVCbTC​
Jun 08 19:08:51 <eghdk> The result is that I don't expect any return to happen faster than 5 seconds, but if I type more than 1 letter, I get a response pretty much instantly. If I only type 1 letter I get a response in 5 seconds
Jun 08 19:08:57 <bitkiller> yep. they called a specialist consultant who said to the directors everything was right and standard
Jun 08 19:09:44 <bitkiller> middle management ignored and said they don't want us anymore
Jun 08 19:10:42 <s73v3r> laid off? Or sent to work on something else?
Jun 08 19:11:19 <bitkiller> we are consultant ourselves (me and my brother, incorporated)
Jun 08 19:12:00 <g00s> lol
Jun 08 19:12:16 <bitkiller> we've been hired by company X to integrate their system with SAP of company Y
Jun 08 19:12:25 <g00s> oh man, SAP
Jun 08 19:12:35 * g00s runs
Jun 08 19:12:41 <bitkiller> i told here about it sometime ago
Jun 08 19:13:57 <bitkiller> but, they asked us if we had the official SAP secret society initiation
Jun 08 19:14:54 <bitkiller> and we answered we hadn't
Jun 08 19:15:21 <bitkiller> btw, they questioned almost with those words
Jun 08 19:16:48 <bitkiller> then hell fell upon us (even though the SAP master said we've been blessed by the SAP spirit)
Jun 08 19:17:07 <eghdk> Anyone with RxJava experience able to help me out on convertin a onTextChangedListener? Code is http://pastebin.com/GzGVCbTC​
Jun 08 19:17:47 <g00s> i'm seeing decent improvements with gradle 2.14
Jun 08 19:17:49 <g00s> rc5
Jun 08 19:19:25 <mattro> eghdk: pastebin says your paste was removed. maybe the link is wrong?
Jun 08 19:20:33 <purplex88> I am reading that 'menu' is created by default in Eclipse but since I am using AS its not there. How do I add one? the tutorial doesn't mention it.
Jun 08 19:21:47 <eghdk> mattro: Sorry http://pastebin.com/qnE8q8dt
Jun 08 19:22:23 <mattro> eghdk: sadly i don't really know anything about rxJava, but i just noticed your link
Jun 08 19:22:31 <eghdk> Hahaha. Dang.
Jun 08 19:22:36 <eghdk> Thanks though
Jun 08 19:26:52 <eghdk> I wanna try to post in #java or something, but usually anything android related over there, and they just send you here. Is there any RxJava channels?
Jun 08 19:33:47 <da3m0n22> is there any project, that would maintain signal and/or redphone without dependency on Google Play Services ?
Jun 08 19:44:59 <mattro> eghdk: according the the reactivex site there's a #reactivex on here on freenode
Jun 08 19:45:35 <mattro> http://reactivex.io/community.html
Jun 08 19:46:23 <eghdk> thanks mattro You're 2 for 2. =)
Jun 08 19:46:47 <eghdk> I think I figured out my issue though. My thread was getting interupted. First time I've ever seen that in 3 years of java dev. lol
Jun 08 19:47:28 <mattro> nice!
Jun 08 19:49:37 <codepython777> anyone knows of a good place to buy the 5X (preferably < $280 US) ? 6p?
Jun 08 19:51:50 <krippykripkrip> i’ve created the following in androidm when i click on a button it animates and scales down to say 30% of its height, you click on it again and it increases back to original height, what i’m trying to do now is then when i click on the button and it decreases in height i want to links behind it to fade in, the only issue I can’t figure out how to display the links behind the button, any ideas?
Jun 08 19:57:02 <orbyt_> anyone familiar with the ndk?
Jun 08 19:57:22 <orbyt_> I have a library using native stuff and am trying to ditribute it via jitpack
Jun 08 19:57:55 <orbyt_> i know its hooked up correctly because i can see a test class from the library in my autocomplete, but none of the native methods work
Jun 08 19:58:06 <orbyt_> tryna figure out why
Jun 08 20:00:15 <dsardari1> orbyt: are you loading the library properly?
Jun 08 20:01:23 <orbyt_> well i can get it from jitpack so I guess? Is that what your asking?
Jun 08 20:01:31 <orbyt_> or loading the native part properly?
Jun 08 20:11:27 <dsardari1> the native part
Jun 08 20:12:55 <orbyt_> I'm not sure, how would i know if im loading it properly or not?
Jun 08 20:53:20 <quillford> anyone know how I can remove the xlarge version of an activity?
Jun 08 20:55:05 <s73v3r> remove?
Jun 08 20:55:25 <s73v3r> i mean, if you’ve got a special layout, you can just remove the file
Jun 08 20:55:49 <quillford> deleting it deletes the regular layout too
Jun 08 20:56:01 <s73v3r> is it a separate layout?
Jun 08 20:56:02 <orbyt_> theres an option
Jun 08 20:56:12 <orbyt_> to not delete variations of resources
Jun 08 20:56:54 <dsardari1> orbyt: are you calling System.loadLibrary("libName")?
Jun 08 20:57:17 <quillford> s73v3r: not sure. looks like this in android studio http://imgur.com/eFlg2Cu
Jun 08 20:57:22 <orbyt_> dsardari1:
Jun 08 20:57:26 <orbyt_> woops
Jun 08 20:57:47 <orbyt_> dsardari1: yes its at the bottom of every class
Jun 08 20:58:29 <dsardari1> what do you mean by bottom?
Jun 08 20:59:05 <quillford> deleting it outside of android studio worked. thanks
Jun 08 20:59:22 <orbyt_> dsardari1: i just mean its called at the bottom of the class
Jun 08 20:59:39 <orbyt_> theres a static {System.loadLibrary("bass");}
Jun 08 21:02:18 <dsardari1> hmm. yeah not sure then.
Jun 08 21:03:57 <orbyt_> well i pulled up the module locally and the methods are showing errors with Cannot reslove corresponding JNI function
Jun 08 21:17:38 <jexmex> when debugging or running a app in android studio, how can you see what assets are being created by your app?
Jun 08 21:18:04 <jexmex> I could not see anything in android studio like a file manager for the emulator or on the nexus 7 emulator as well
Jun 08 21:22:35 <s73v3r> you mean loaded?
Jun 08 21:25:02 <jexmex> I have a sqlite database that gets created, but it does not seem to be populating the data, but I am not getting any log entries (not even verbose) but I was before. I cannot tell if there is an error happening or what. I wanted to see if my sqlite database was created properly
Jun 08 21:29:57 <AlexBerdnikov> jexmex, If there's an SQL error occuring on database create/fill query you must be able to see it in Android Monitor window in AS
Jun 08 21:30:40 <AlexBerdnikov> Also, I  highly recommend you to use Facebook's Stetho library for debugging your SQLite database
Jun 08 21:31:17 <AlexBerdnikov> It's a very useful tool once you try it you'll can't work without it anymore
Jun 08 21:32:38 <jexmex> ok, looking at it now
Jun 08 21:42:49 <liuwenhao> Yes, I just started using Stetho a few days ago and it works like a dream
Jun 08 21:42:56 <liuwenhao> I use it for my Realm database
Jun 08 21:43:16 <adq> http://android-developers.blogspot.fr/2016/06/notifications-in-android-n.html
Jun 08 21:43:24 <matt_j> hey adq
Jun 08 21:43:26 <liuwenhao> Wish I had known about it sooner, Stetho has saved me quite a bit of time already
Jun 08 21:43:30 <matt_j> we found the problem with the IAPs
Jun 08 21:43:31 <adq> matt_j o/
Jun 08 21:43:42 <adq> great, what was it matt_j?
Jun 08 21:43:44 <matt_j> turns out that "Go Live" needed to be pressed when dealing with partial rollouts
Jun 08 21:43:57 <jexmex> I got logs back, I think it had something to do with the image update that I had to do I guess
Jun 08 21:43:58 <matt_j> otherwise all changes don't take effect. At. all.
Jun 08 21:44:06 <matt_j> it's BS IMO
Jun 08 21:44:07 <adq> oh right
Jun 08 21:44:19 <adq> i never used their stage roll features for alpha/beta
Jun 08 21:44:22 <matt_j> IMO alpha builds should still function properly, but I guess not.
Jun 08 21:44:24 <matt_j> well
Jun 08 21:44:27 <matt_j> we only used it for Prod
Jun 08 21:44:32 <matt_j> but it didn't matter
Jun 08 21:44:45 <adq> that's good to know, thanks for telling us
Jun 08 21:44:46 <matt_j> basically marketing started changing screenshots and we didn't want to hit Go Live
Jun 08 21:44:58 <matt_j> and that was messing up the alpha/beta builds :(
Jun 08 21:45:00 <matt_j> np
Jun 08 21:57:28 <jexmex> Anybody ever got this error? libprocessgroup: failed to make and chown /acct/uid_10058: Read-only file system
Jun 08 21:59:01 <mentazoom> is there any good third party library for swiping items in recyclerview and getitng options?
Jun 08 22:01:04 <memorion> is there a straight-forward way to inflate a popup menu on top of another view like the material spec suggests?
Jun 08 22:05:03 <fmedina> hello
Jun 08 22:05:17 <memorion> like this I mean, https://material-design.storage.googleapis.com/publish/material_v_8/material_ext_publish/0B_udO5B8pzrzdmJrQUk3aXd0RTg/components_menus_usage2.png the default popup menu puts it below or above the view
Jun 08 22:05:18 <fmedina> looking for help in creating MTK Android FOTA builds
Jun 08 22:05:37 <fmedina> I am able to build AOSP FOTA packages no prob..
Jun 08 22:05:45 <fmedina> but MTK seems to do things differently
Jun 08 22:06:08 <memorion> fmedina this doesn't seem to be the right place for that, this is strictly app development
Jun 08 22:06:27 <fmedina> oh, sorry
Jun 08 22:06:44 <fmedina> apologies
Jun 08 22:07:02 <s73v3r> memorion: that looks like the regular action bar/toolbar menu
Jun 08 22:07:43 <memorion> s73v3r yes, but I inflate a popup menu on an imagebutton and its not on top of it
Jun 08 22:33:54 <JosefFilzmaier> Hey there, got a question: I'd like to simply use a GradientDrawable, but i want to use it multiple times in a lot of views. To be as lightweight as possible i have used just a View. This has the problem, that if i change the color of one GradientDrawable the view's do not update. If i use FrameLayout this problem does not occur.
Jun 08 22:34:03 <JosefFilzmaier> What does View do differently then FrameLayout so that the setColors() method of the GradientDrawable does work on FrameLayout might be my first question?
Jun 08 22:34:09 <JosefFilzmaier> The second question is how much overhead is there in using FrameLayout over plain View?
Jun 08 23:11:20 <pfn> nothing, and framelayout has no overhead
Jun 08 23:21:43 <g00s> technically i use my device upside down, most apps work and orient themselves correctly - but some seem hard-coded to show a certain way which then appears upside down again :/ what is the cause of that ?
Jun 08 23:22:19 <g00s> are they handling orientation changes and screwing up ?
Jun 08 23:22:37 <g00s> a bunch of gapps btw
Jun 08 23:24:07 <s73v3r> they’re being lazy
Jun 08 23:39:38 <adq> g00s, i believe it's common when portrait mode is forced without using the sensor
Jun 08 23:39:59 <adq> err the contrary sorry, in landscape
Jun 08 23:39:59 <g00s> adq ah that makes sense .. lol google
Jun 08 23:40:13 <adq> in portrait i never saw it tbh
Jun 08 23:40:15 <g00s> its in portrate
Jun 08 23:40:23 <g00s> *portrait
Jun 08 23:40:39 <adq> cannot be worst than mounting the camera up side down :>
Jun 08 23:41:26 <g00s> adq so i see this when i have auto-rotate enabled, but if i lock portrait mode seems most are OK
Jun 08 23:41:28 <adq> g00s, have you seen this behavior with regular app made with sdk (like with toolbar etc)?
Jun 08 23:41:42 <adq> maybe with opengl or native app, probability to happen is higher
Jun 08 23:41:45 <g00s> adq the camera upside down ? no ...
Jun 08 23:41:52 <adq> in any case just decompile the apk and check the manifest
Jun 08 23:41:56 <g00s> for example, google analytics is upside down for me
Jun 08 23:42:17 <adq> oO
Jun 08 23:42:57 <adq> g00s, what's your device and rom??
Jun 08 23:43:04 <g00s> adq stock n7 2013
Jun 08 23:43:14 <adq> dang
Jun 08 23:43:25 <adq> let's blame google as always then ;)
Jun 08 23:43:45 <g00s> only goes upside down when auto-rotate is enabled, but other apps are OK so yeah - we can blame google :D
Jun 08 23:44:11 <g00s> i like to have the power cord go away from me as its sitting on the desk
Jun 08 23:44:20 <adq> i feel you
Jun 08 23:45:17 <adq> the camera up side down was a semi-joke, remember nexus 5x
Jun 08 23:45:57 <adq> it was a combination with the old camera api and how they mounted it
Jun 08 23:45:57 <shmooz> you're holding it wrong!
Jun 08 23:46:05 <adq> :')
Jun 08 23:46:34 <g00s> shmooz i'm not holding it :D
Jun 08 23:54:26 <shmooz> ok so I got my app to show up in the open with list when the user clicks a mp3 or mp4 file from a file explorer
Jun 08 23:55:04 <shmooz> but how do I receive the uri that points to the location of the file, so I can start playing it?
Jun 08 23:55:16 <s73v3r> that should be included in the intent
Jun 08 23:55:58 <shmooz> I'm thinking I need some sort of receiver
Jun 08 23:56:06 <liefer> i believe there is a "standard" bundle extras key for file locations that you probably want to use
Jun 08 23:56:27 <s73v3r> yeah, you don’t need a reciever. it should all be in the intent
Jun 08 23:56:57 <shmooz> well I didn't do anything in java code to receive the uri and start playing it, I did a intent-filter in xml only
Jun 08 23:57:21 <shmooz> and so my app shows up, but when I click it the app starts but doesn't play the file
Jun 08 23:57:29 <s73v3r> so in the activity that receives the intent, you’re gonna have to look in the extras
Jun 08 23:58:34 <shmooz> ok yeah get extras makes sense
Jun 09 00:47:44 <liuwenhao> Are any of you using the Jack toolchain? Is it good/stable enough to be used in production apps yet?
Jun 09 00:48:48 <liuwenhao> https://developer.android.com/preview/j8-jack.html specifically for native lambdas
Jun 09 00:49:45 <liuwenhao> Wait nevermind, apparently you have to set minSdk to 23 to use it
Jun 09 00:50:01 <dragorn> yeah jack is pretty bleeding edge
Jun 09 00:52:37 <g00s> dragorn nice and cool today
Jun 09 00:53:38 <pfn> liuwenhao, you can use lambdas with jack without minsdk 23
Jun 09 00:53:49 <pfn> you only need min23 for default methods and some other things
Jun 09 00:53:56 <dragorn> g00s, yeah today was nice; going to cali saturday so I'm trying to get a bunch of stuff done before then & it was really nice that it wasn't some stupid temperature
Jun 09 00:54:07 <pfn> default methods and repeatable annotations
Jun 09 00:54:45 <g00s> do method references work below 23 ?
Jun 09 00:55:02 <pfn> of course, they're just anonymous class instances
Jun 09 00:56:11 * pfn isn't sure how it desugars exactly
Jun 09 01:05:09 <g00s> i really like how VS Code organizes its files on the left; its kinda like the regular tree view + Intellij Ctrl-E
Jun 09 01:05:26 <g00s> they still don't have tabs, but i guess they are adding them soon (old habits die hard)
Jun 09 01:38:07 <grekkos> if I see the dot under the play icon that means instant run is enabled right? Cause as far as I can tell I shut it off and it came back even though it's off
Jun 09 01:54:50 <kuroro> i have a textview containing 10,000+ words, and i want users to easily search through the text. is there a library that does something similar to chrome's "find in page"
Jun 09 01:54:54 <kuroro> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lCrIpp9KR4k/Vh948ASCLTI/AAAAAAAABg0/xWXqyiIPl_c/s640/find-in-page-google-chrome.jpg
Jun 09 01:59:53 <g00s> not sure if textview is the right choice for that
Jun 09 02:03:16 <kuroro> actually, im using recycleview
Jun 09 02:03:34 <kuroro> textview is just sort of arbitrary example i guess to simplify my question
Jun 09 02:17:27 <liuwenhao> Hi all -- is it bad practice to have an EventBus between your presenter and model data? It seems like a good solution to get data from the model but I want to make sure before I screw up this codebase
Jun 09 02:17:44 <liuwenhao> in MVP, not MVVM
Jun 09 02:18:15 <liuwenhao> I was thinking of using RxJava as an EventBus like https://medium.com/@diolor/rxjava-as-event-bus-the-right-way-10a36bdd49ba#.m6ckgk31a
Jun 09 02:23:49 <g00s> liuwenhao i think the challenge, is to replace the easy out of event bus with rxjava /pipeline/ ... if you just use BehaviorSubject or whatever its not much better, actually less convenient than something like eventbus
Jun 09 02:25:29 <g00s> so when people say rxjava > event bus, its more that the paradigm of creating a pipeline that is more local to explicitly include what needs to observer changes is better than multicasting to every part of the app
Jun 09 02:31:17 <liuwenhao> Alright I will try to avoid that
Jun 09 02:31:35 <liuwenhao> Thanks @g00s
Jun 09 02:33:35 <ResidentBiscuit> In my Dagger Module constructor, I take in a value that is determined at runtime. It's a common enough pattern in Guice, but in Dagger you don't explicitly instantiate your module anywhere
Jun 09 02:33:47 <ResidentBiscuit> How would I go about passing that value?
Jun 09 02:35:02 <rosten> ResidentBiscuit: dagger 1 I take it?
Jun 09 02:35:14 <ResidentBiscuit> Dagger 2
Jun 09 02:35:19 <ResidentBiscuit> Should have specified that
Jun 09 02:36:08 <rosten> hmm, don't you instantiate the modules that need input when you instantiate the components?
Jun 09 02:36:29 <ResidentBiscuit> From my understanding, all you write for the components is the interface
Jun 09 02:36:40 <ResidentBiscuit> And Dagger builds the implementation
Jun 09 02:37:01 <ResidentBiscuit> You specify the modules in the @Component annotation
Jun 09 02:38:40 <rosten> ResidentBiscuit: I'm sure there are various ways to do it but I instantiate my components in my Application onCreate()
Jun 09 02:39:53 <rosten> for classes that don't have an inject constructor you need to inject them manually by getting a component
Jun 09 02:40:27 <rosten> like Android framework classes, you don't have access to the constructor
Jun 09 02:44:32 <ResidentBiscuit> The issue with that is the component builder is generated at compile time, I dont think I have any way to get a builder that will take my argument
Jun 09 02:46:24 <ResidentBiscuit> Er maybe I can
Jun 09 02:46:46 <rosten> hmm, not sure I understand, you declare module constructors to take the input you need and then pass those arguments as you pass the module when you build the component in the application oncreate()
Jun 09 02:47:51 <ResidentBiscuit> Yeah I was originally building the component like `MyComponent component = MyComponent.builder().create()`. I didn't realize I could `MyComponent.builder.myModule(new MyModule(arg)).create()`
Jun 09 02:48:12 <rosten> like this, in MyApplication onCreate():
Jun 09 02:48:13 <rosten> mMyComponent = DaggerMyComponent.builder() .myModule(new MyModule(someArgument)) .build();
Jun 09 02:48:19 <rosten> ah yes
Jun 09 02:48:27 <rosten> you got it :)
Jun 09 02:48:41 <ResidentBiscuit> Sweet, awesome! This component stuff is magic
Jun 09 02:48:50 <rosten> it's pretty cool stuff :)
Jun 09 02:49:12 <ResidentBiscuit> At first I thought Dagger was really awkward compared to Guice, but it's growing on me. The compile time sanity is great
Jun 09 02:50:01 <rosten> definitely :)
Jun 09 02:50:23 <JakeWharton> It takes some mental juggling to re-frame your mindset about how modules are defined and then how are composed.
Jun 09 02:50:32 <JakeWharton> If you've dealt with Guice before, that is
Jun 09 02:51:25 <ResidentBiscuit> I've spent the last ~6 months getting the hang of Guice at work, now I'm shifting to Dagger for android stuffs. Definitely a change of mindset
Jun 09 02:51:54 <ResidentBiscuit> Still haven't formed an opinion on which I feel is better, yet
Jun 09 02:52:12 <ResidentBiscuit> Guice feels simpler, but Dagger feels a lot safer
Jun 09 02:52:22 <JakeWharton> Those were each their goals
Jun 09 02:52:30 <JakeWharton> So success!
Jun 09 02:53:04 <ResidentBiscuit> Huzzah!
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