**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 05 02:59:59 2016
Jul 05 03:00:52 <cnbleu> all things seems right except can not work
Jul 05 03:04:56 <g00s_> cnbleu is the bundle empty ?
Jul 05 03:06:16 <cnbleu> g00s_: no, my datas inside it
Jul 05 03:06:29 <g00s_> isn't it working then ?
Jul 05 03:07:12 <g00s_> cnbleu perhaps also check b.android.com to see if you find anything
Jul 05 03:07:27 <g00s_> by now, those bugs in nested fragments should mostly be fixed though
Jul 05 03:08:52 <cnbleu> it's possiable, i would search again
Jul 05 03:46:09 <wyoung> hey, is there a limit on how many services / background threads an android app can create?
Jul 05 03:46:57 <wyoung> (or have running at the same time?)
Jul 05 03:52:06 <sasser> wyoung i suppose you could run as many as you want as long as you dont run out of memory
Jul 05 03:52:33 <sasser> https://developer.android.com/training/multiple-threads/create-threadpool.html
Jul 05 03:53:35 <wyoung> sasser: ok, I am just having an issue playing an alert sound and vibrating the device.  I could do it before I started running a back ground thread
Jul 05 03:53:58 <wyoung> could be a coincidence I suppose, I will do some debugging
Jul 05 03:54:48 <sasser> are you using runOnUiThread?
Jul 05 03:55:38 <develCuy> android studio is pretty cool :)
Jul 05 04:00:33 <Fishbowled> can I pop a few android dev studio questions?
Jul 05 04:06:55 <gordon_> http://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-posts-implied-p9-camera-sample-taken-with-a-pro-camera/
Jul 05 04:06:58 <gordon_> you had one job
Jul 05 04:07:21 <gordon_> Fishbowled: yes you can
Jul 05 04:09:44 <Fishbowled> sorry, trying to step through the simple way to install the android dev studio. Anyways, so I install the 32bit studio, download the N SDK, and build-tools, the build-tools stop being 32-bit at 23.0.1, so I go back and install that through the SDK, damn studio and gradle don't like my system
Jul 05 04:11:21 <Fishbowled> unfortunately i think i remember where this one ends... eventually the new build-tools is installed, then aapt 32-bit tries and executes mupdd instr on my cpu that can't run on my specfic processor. (kinda clarifying my troubleshooting process)
Jul 05 04:14:38 <Leeds> are you running on an ancient Atom or something?
Jul 05 04:15:29 <Fishbowled> nah friend threw me an old Pentium 4, apprently intel changed the xmm instructions mid through the P4's
Jul 05 04:16:19 <Fishbowled> the aapt module ran one instr that didn't work, rest of em worked fine. Anyways I deleted everything, tried to do a fresh approach (hot patching the asm corrupted the checksum)
Jul 05 04:16:26 <Leeds> so your CPU pre-dates Android 1.0?
Jul 05 04:16:54 <Fishbowled> it's not the issue of what android, it's an issue of the settings used to compile the aapt tool
Jul 05 04:17:14 <Fishbowled> well I guess, I'm actually not sure on the answer to that question Leeds
Jul 05 04:17:19 <Leeds> I suspect it's an issue of you trying to run software build in 2016 on a non-compatible 8+-year-old CPU
Jul 05 04:17:30 <Fishbowled> lol no doubt
Jul 05 04:18:16 <Fishbowled> shall we debate the politics of making software designed to cross platform development platform specific?
Jul 05 04:19:54 <gordon_> Fishbowled: what OS are you running ?
Jul 05 04:20:10 <Fishbowled> gordon_: Linux (32-bit)
Jul 05 04:20:14 <gordon_> I still need to have 32libs for android
Jul 05 04:20:42 <gordon_> so it must be 32bit
Jul 05 04:21:30 <Fishbowled> think I got unlucky with aapt not working, now I'm just trying to get a default project working, (unfortunately I don't know android dev and now have some other error)
Jul 05 04:21:46 <gordon_> what's the error ?
Jul 05 04:22:05 <gordon_> well, with pentium4 you wont go far....
Jul 05 04:22:44 <Leeds> I think you can pretty much run a proper 64-bit SDK now, as of some time earlier this year
Jul 05 04:22:54 <gordon_> Leeds: really ?
Jul 05 04:22:59 <gordon_> that would be nice
Jul 05 04:23:10 <gordon_> like... 2012 :P
Jul 05 04:23:21 <Leeds> yeah... took a while
Jul 05 04:23:35 <gordon_> what's next? normal jvm1.8 ?
Jul 05 04:23:36 <Leeds> then again, I think I still need to multilib my home machine, at least - for Steam
Jul 05 04:23:40 <gordon_> no dex limit ?
Jul 05 04:24:28 <Leeds> ha ha don't be silly
Jul 05 04:24:28 <RandomX45> ART combines the dexs all into one file anyway
Jul 05 04:25:05 <Fishbowled> AGPI is giving me a resource not found
Jul 05 04:25:14 <sasser> Fishbowled are you sure you are downloading the x86_64 rather then the arm?
Jul 05 04:25:35 <sasser> had similiar problem with the arm emulator
Jul 05 04:25:42 <Fishbowled> kinda sucks to get this from a default project
Jul 05 04:25:44 * RandomX45 wonders why they use a VM at all rather then just a program to statically compile the VM bytecode to arm
Jul 05 04:26:01 <gordon_> RandomX45: right? ;)
Jul 05 04:26:05 <Fishbowled> sasser: yeah for the emul I understand I need the x86 image
Jul 05 04:26:06 <sasser> maybe im confused nvm
Jul 05 04:26:21 <gordon_> well, it did good job - many java devs moved to android
Jul 05 04:26:51 <gordon_> binaries are also small
Jul 05 04:26:55 <gordon_> comparing to ios
Jul 05 04:27:05 <Fishbowled> uh, can I just rip these <style> tags out of the values.xml to try and get this compiling?
Jul 05 04:27:18 <sasser> eh
Jul 05 04:27:24 <sasser> what errors are you getting specially fishbowled
Jul 05 04:27:30 <sasser> specifically
Jul 05 04:27:34 <gordon_> stacktrace !
Jul 05 04:27:43 <Leeds> this way madness lies
Jul 05 04:28:08 <Fishbowled> uh what's the used pastebin these days?
Jul 05 04:28:13 <RandomX45> does ios allow dynamic linking though? because on android you might have hundreds of redundant copies of the same library.
Jul 05 04:28:13 <sasser> www.pastebin.ca
Jul 05 04:29:00 <g00s_> gordon_ are you using data binding ?
Jul 05 04:29:38 <Fishbowled> http://www.pastebin.ca/3655355
Jul 05 04:30:19 <g00s_> gordon_ this isn't a trick question :D
Jul 05 04:30:21 <sasser> what distro u on
Jul 05 04:30:26 <g00s_> i'm not trolling you, promise :D
Jul 05 04:30:57 <sasser> Fishbowled: try a clean project
Jul 05 04:30:57 <g00s_> lol, we had somebody in here this morning, using gentoo, said the sdk manager was blowing up
Jul 05 04:31:12 <Fishbowled> sasser: cool
Jul 05 04:31:20 <g00s_> turns out, he had /tmp as ramfs and not tmpfs, and well, yeah. lol
Jul 05 04:32:15 <sasser> Fishbowled: also, if you are ubuntu make sure to have bzip2 and the android studio requirements or gradle will hang
Jul 05 04:32:23 <sasser> then fail
Jul 05 04:32:47 <sasser> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29241640/error-unable-to-run-mksdcard-sdk-tool-in-ubuntu
Jul 05 04:32:54 <gordon_> g00s_: no
Jul 05 04:33:06 <g00s_> gordon_ ok thx
Jul 05 04:33:11 <gordon_> g00s_: databinding reminds me of jsf, jsp which I try to avoid
Jul 05 04:33:17 <Fishbowled> sasser:cheers. So creating a default project for API 8 Froyo 2.2
Jul 05 04:33:36 <Leeds> ha ha froyo on a pentium4
Jul 05 04:33:40 <Fishbowled> should I add an activity or not?
Jul 05 04:33:45 <gordon_> g00s_: I think we should go into opposide direction, some nice dsl instead of xml
Jul 05 04:33:50 <g00s_> gordon_ but what if you don't use it 2-way, like just a replacement for findViewById ...
Jul 05 04:34:07 <gordon_> for scala that would be macroid (which might be pain in ass), for kotlin it should be anko
Jul 05 04:34:10 <g00s_> so basically the XMLs look the same beside <layout> parent
Jul 05 04:34:16 <Fishbowled> sorry I know this stuff might seem pretty basic, but I'd just like to get a project working to check the build tools
Jul 05 04:34:17 <sasser> Fishbowled id recommend 14+ the API has alot of deprecation just a recommendation
Jul 05 04:34:25 <sasser> just use a phone for emulation
Jul 05 04:34:32 <g00s_> gordon_ how does stuff like anko handle resource configuration changes ?
Jul 05 04:34:40 <gordon_> I dont know
Jul 05 04:34:46 <g00s_> well, i guess i'll look it up, hm
Jul 05 04:34:51 <Fishbowled> sasser: okay i'll switch to that for the test
Jul 05 04:35:01 <gordon_> but xml is just text
Jul 05 04:35:11 <gordon_> anko is code so... it's better; )
Jul 05 04:35:17 <gordon_> at least idea is better
Jul 05 04:35:21 <Leeds> screw you guys, I'm going to the office
Jul 05 04:35:22 <gordon_> implementation might be crappy :D
Jul 05 04:35:27 <g00s_> :D
Jul 05 04:35:31 <gordon_> Lewoco: I got screwed
Jul 05 04:35:38 <g00s_> why does it always happen that way gordon_ !
Jul 05 04:35:49 <g00s_> (impl is crappy)
Jul 05 04:35:59 <sasser> visual basic menus please
Jul 05 04:35:59 <gordon_> I dont know
Jul 05 04:36:03 <sasser> lol
Jul 05 04:37:10 <develCuy> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/android/dx/command/Main : Unsupported major.minor version 52.0
Jul 05 04:37:21 <develCuy> I tried with both jdk 8 and 7
Jul 05 04:37:30 <develCuy> sdk 19, 23, 24
Jul 05 04:37:47 <develCuy> thing works :(
Jul 05 04:38:38 <gordon_> develCuy: where do you have that error ?
Jul 05 04:38:54 <develCuy> when running: ant debug
Jul 05 04:39:18 <gordon_> ant ?
Jul 05 04:39:23 <gordon_> now that's old
Jul 05 04:39:54 <pfn> develCuy, 52.0 is java8
Jul 05 04:40:02 <pfn> so you did  not try with jdk7
Jul 05 04:40:26 <develCuy> well, I'm on java 8 now
Jul 05 04:40:27 <develCuy> same thing
Jul 05 04:40:44 <pfn> no shit, 52.0 is java8
Jul 05 04:41:05 <develCuy> yup
Jul 05 04:41:32 <pfn> java8 is not supportes
Jul 05 04:41:51 <Fishbowled> k so the default setting trys to use build-tools/24.0.0 which won't work (64-bit), so I change the build tools on the module settings to 23.0.1, however it seems to hang on actually doing anything after this point
Jul 05 04:42:24 <develCuy> I'm confused
Jul 05 04:42:35 <develCuy> why my wants 52.0 if it is not supported...
Jul 05 04:42:48 <develCuy> perhaps I should change something, not sure where...
Jul 05 04:43:20 <pfn> nothing wants 52.0
Jul 05 04:43:33 <pfn> 52.0 is java8, java8 is not supported
Jul 05 04:43:41 <develCuy> I got what you mean
Jul 05 04:45:23 <gordon_> well, you can use jdk8 but set source target to jdk7
Jul 05 04:45:38 <develCuy> gordon_: how can I do that?
Jul 05 04:50:46 <gordon_> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21014338/can-you-compile-a-class-using-java-8-and-then-use-it-in-java-7
Jul 05 04:50:56 <gordon_> -source 1.7 -target 1.7
Jul 05 04:52:28 <boodllebat> I have a question i have a app which is not final now , its not having any name or something just apk on my system , can i still integrate google play services and admob without uploading my apk anywhere ?
Jul 05 04:54:51 <boodllebat> anybody ?
Jul 05 04:55:06 <develCuy> gordon_: should I pass that to ant?
Jul 05 04:56:14 <gordon_> develCuy: yes
Jul 05 04:56:47 <gordon_> if it wont work, you need to google yourself how to set java target with ant
Jul 05 04:56:58 <gordon_> I havent used ant for... 4 years
Jul 05 04:58:30 <boodllebat> gordon_: can you help me ?
Jul 05 04:59:46 <gordon_> maybe ;)
Jul 05 05:00:22 <gordon_> you dont need to upload apk anywhere, but need sources
Jul 05 05:00:53 <gordon_> afaik
Jul 05 05:01:12 <gordon_> check this https://firebase.google.com/docs/admob/android/quick-start
Jul 05 05:01:49 <gordon_> boodllebat: ^
Jul 05 05:03:13 <purplex88> My application runs on phone and it crashes on tablet AVD? Both devices use same API
Jul 05 05:03:52 <baash05> Hey again guys/girls.
Jul 05 05:04:00 <baash05> I'm wondering about enums
Jul 05 05:04:01 <purplex88> It is very simple application.
Jul 05 05:04:30 <baash05> I noticed that some code had public final int BLA = 1;
Jul 05 05:04:36 <baash05> in a class.
Jul 05 05:05:00 <pfn> stacktrace or gtfo
Jul 05 05:05:19 <baash05> oops public static final int BLA = 1;
Jul 05 05:05:25 <baash05> And a pile more.
Jul 05 05:05:30 <baash05> that screams enum to me
Jul 05 05:05:38 <baash05> Well to the c++ in me.
Jul 05 05:06:05 <baash05> But when I switched it all to enum my switchs broke.
Jul 05 05:06:29 <baash05> Error:(222, 29) error: incompatible types: Code cannot be converted to int
Jul 05 05:07:00 <pfn> make the types compatible
Jul 05 05:07:21 <baash05> How would I do that?
Jul 05 05:07:24 <purplex88> java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start activity ComponentInfo
Jul 05 05:07:42 <pfn> by programming correctly
Jul 05 05:07:44 <baash05> If I want to change it in the enum file only.
Jul 05 05:07:50 <baash05> Ha ha pfn..
Jul 05 05:08:00 <purplex88> Caused by: android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file line #24: Error inflating class fragment
Jul 05 05:08:02 <pfn> an enum is not an int
Jul 05 05:08:07 <purplex88> it works fine on phone
Jul 05 05:08:18 <pfn> the error is clear
Jul 05 05:08:20 <pfn> fix it
Jul 05 05:09:01 <baash05> Yeah.. so I have two choices... revert the enum back to a class, or change all the places the enums are used?
Jul 05 05:09:06 <baash05> Is there a third option.
Jul 05 05:09:10 <pfn> no
Jul 05 05:09:44 <baash05> crap.. two coders added constants to the file and didn't notice they set both constants to the same value.
Jul 05 05:09:49 <pfn> and I meant purplex88 should fix the error
Jul 05 05:09:52 <pfn> it is clear
Jul 05 05:10:40 <purplex88> pfn: it works on phone but not on tablet. hint?
Jul 05 05:11:37 <purplex88> pfn: found it
Jul 05 05:12:02 <purplex88> there was a .xml (large) i think it is for tablet
Jul 05 05:12:22 <develCuy> it looks like 24.0.0 is my problem
Jul 05 05:12:33 <purplex88> it refers to old package that doesn't exist
Jul 05 05:12:55 <develCuy> how can I downgrade to previous?
Jul 05 05:15:26 <gordon_> baash05: you can make enum .value() method which will return int
Jul 05 05:15:46 <gordon_> develCuy: yes
Jul 05 05:15:53 <gordon_> just download it in manager ;)
Jul 05 05:15:54 <purplex88> why doesn't it show up as compile error if you refer to a wrong package?
Jul 05 05:16:01 <purplex88> in XML
Jul 05 05:16:19 <gordon_> because it's magic of xml :P
Jul 05 05:17:05 <g00s_> tim bray was a wizard :)
Jul 05 05:20:14 <gordon_> i wonder why there are no bitmap helpers
Jul 05 05:20:21 <gordon_> loading bitmap from file is a pain in ass
Jul 05 05:22:25 <develCuy> [getbuildtools] Using latest Build Tools: 24.0.0
Jul 05 05:22:53 <develCuy> I need 23.0.3
Jul 05 05:22:59 <develCuy> how can I change it?
Jul 05 05:24:29 <gordon_> develCuy: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/07/05/Screen_Shot_2016-07-05_at_2.23.35_PM.png
Jul 05 05:24:39 <gordon_> download it and change in your config
Jul 05 05:28:20 <p0ff3> Hey lads, I'm getting into react native. When I try to run it on a virtual Android device I fail at :app:processDebugResources. What is processDebugResources?
Jul 05 05:29:01 <develCuy> well, I'm not using gradle so need to find a workaround
Jul 05 05:32:52 <g00s_> p0ff3 few, if anyone here, uses react native
Jul 05 05:34:45 <p0ff3> g00s_: Yeah.. That's my major hickup with it, nowhere to turn for answers to mundane things
Jul 05 05:35:20 <p0ff3> It's probably nto mundane but I can't figure out what's going on so thought I woudl get some understanding on how running it works
Jul 05 05:36:36 <Fishbowled> what's the correct way to downgrade the platform tools on a project in android dev studio?
Jul 05 05:37:15 <g00s_> Fishbowled i don't think you can
Jul 05 05:38:03 <Fishbowled> so perhaps it's through downloading them outside of the studio?
Jul 05 05:38:30 <g00s_> sdk manager only gives option for latest
Jul 05 05:48:02 <Fishbowled> okay, so i get 32bit build-tools, but can't dl any new platform tools through the sdk manager :(
Jul 05 05:48:10 <Fishbowled> well old sorry
Jul 05 05:51:01 <gordon_> g00s_: you can download older too
Jul 05 05:51:17 <gordon_> if you can, it must be an option through console
Jul 05 05:51:46 <Fishbowled> trying to grab an older sdk archive and see if it'll work. Seems to be only the platform-tools dir that has 64-bit versions left
Jul 05 06:44:41 <thepoosh> well
Jul 05 07:02:47 <viran> Hello, I got a RecyclerView with two items, I want the bottom item to fill the remaining space in the window/screen.... any idea how can I accomplish that?
Jul 05 07:13:19 <thepoosh> viran: 1. this seems like it's not a recycler view type of layout
Jul 05 07:13:35 <thepoosh> 2. consider staggered items
Jul 05 07:15:10 <Fishbowled> hmmm possible to run a adb without KVM?
Jul 05 07:15:33 <thepoosh> adb will run on any system
Jul 05 07:16:38 <Fishbowled> thepoosh: got adb running, but all x86 images (well lowest and middle) give error 'KVM' required to run this adb
Jul 05 07:16:49 <Fishbowled> sorry AVD
Jul 05 07:17:19 <thepoosh> AVD is a virtual device so I would assume it requires some sort of virtualization solution
Jul 05 07:17:21 <Fishbowled> google did pretty mad coming up with many versions of many tools with many aconyms
Jul 05 07:17:50 <Fishbowled> KVM is intels extensions, my cpu's pretty old unfortunately
Jul 05 07:21:30 <zombie314> can i send AT+CESQ to a rooted Nexus 5X phone?  via adb or ndis-usb
Jul 05 07:21:56 <Fishbowled> ah, the 'android' proggy is what i wanted
Jul 05 07:24:01 <Fishbowled> but it installs to a different dest than what the studio sdk manager does.. lol
Jul 05 07:24:17 <zombie314> anyone sent AT commands through adb shell to a Nexus 5x (rooted)
Jul 05 07:25:13 <thepoosh> Fishbowled: try running genymotion
Jul 05 07:30:31 <zombie314> a lot of sites say if you find the right device  e.g. /dev/smd0  you can just do echo "AT+CESQ" > /dev/smd0  and VOILA
Jul 05 07:30:36 <Fishbowled> lol, this version to version to version is almost like a pisstake
Jul 05 07:32:33 <Leeds> thepoosh: I'm not sure genymotion would get very far on a Pentium 4
Jul 05 07:39:31 <thepoosh> why not?
Jul 05 07:50:40 <zombie314> not sure why i cant echo to this?  crw-r----- radio    radio    239,   0 1970-07-19 12:50 smdcntl0
Jul 05 07:58:35 <Leeds> zombie314: app dev?
Jul 05 07:59:19 <purplex88> Even the google's offical sample code has errors for example fragmentbasics example/
Jul 05 07:59:50 <purplex88> http://developer.android.com/shareables/training/FragmentBasics.zip it throws exceptions on runtime
Jul 05 08:11:19 <hassoon> I happen to see Context context, in the constructor's signature of any given widget, like in  EditText(Context context)
Jul 05 08:11:28 <hassoon> so what is this 'Context' type about
Jul 05 08:18:18 <markyosullivan> Anyone use any 3rd party software to help with app deployment?
Jul 05 08:19:06 <markyosullivan> Heard of Fastlane, it's more catered for iOS apps but they've got a couple features for Android dev as well, just wondering if anyone here has experience with it?
Jul 05 08:25:13 <akshitkumar1> hey can anyone tell me how to take pictures using camera2api with screen locked?
Jul 05 08:27:49 <barq> Would you recommend using google App engine as a web for visualizing data collected from the app and passing data from the web back to the app?
Jul 05 08:31:30 <xorgate> i'm trying to get the mimetype of a video i just captured using MediaStore.ACTION_VIDEO_CAPTURE intent. The uri starts with file:/ but ContentResolver.getType() discards anything not starting with "content".  How should I then get the mimetype?
Jul 05 08:42:27 <Fishbowled> does adb uses qemu to run the avd images?
Jul 05 08:45:26 <Leeds> since when does adb run avd images?
Jul 05 08:47:27 <Fishbowled> Leeds: I don't know, just trying to poke into this one gui system and see what's really going on. The 'emulator' program wasn't 32bit, so I grabbed the 32bit from an archived sdk
Jul 05 08:48:12 <Fishbowled> Leeds: ah I meant the 'android' program to get it running and installing the avd
Jul 05 08:58:55 <gordon_> lol
Jul 05 08:59:06 <gordon_> gradle just told me that it needs 5gb of ram :D
Jul 05 08:59:28 <gordon_> "For faster builds, increase the maximum heap size for the Gradle daemon to more than 5120 MB."
Jul 05 08:59:42 <Zharf> ...
Jul 05 09:00:22 <gordon_> thank you gradle
Jul 05 09:00:29 <gordon_> let's try 6gb
Jul 05 09:05:50 <markyosullivan> Is there a way to have like testing code separate from deployment code? Like I have code to automatically enter user details for login which I use for testing but I obviously can't deploy that code
Jul 05 09:08:19 <droidace> I’m using retrofit 2.0 to fetch stock quotes from yahoo finance. I’m having problem writing the correct syntax in the onResponse method:  call =  stockApiServiceInterface.listQuotes(         "select * from yahoo.finance.quotes where symbol in (\"YHOO\")",         "store://datatables.org/alltableswithkeys")         .enqueue(new Callback<ResultWrapper>() {           @Override           public void onResponse(Response<ResultW
Jul 05 09:08:32 <droidace> here's my full code: http://pastebin.com/gPb1De1i
Jul 05 09:12:05 <gordon_> markyosullivan: create build variant for test and inject different class
Jul 05 09:29:08 <markyosullivan> gordon_: Would you have an example which I could look at?
Jul 05 10:20:13 <gordon_> markyosullivan: check u2020 on github
Jul 05 10:20:45 <markyosullivan> gordon_: Thanks!
Jul 05 10:20:52 <droidace> does anyone have an example of retrieving stock quote using retrofit 2.0
Jul 05 10:20:55 <gordon_> np
Jul 05 10:21:09 <gordon_> nope :P
Jul 05 10:25:00 <wyoung> no
Jul 05 10:25:49 <thepoosh> droidace: maybe the retrofit repo has it
Jul 05 10:25:57 <thepoosh> if not, google probably has a few results
Jul 05 10:30:44 <Ikkyo> Morning. Is there any good reason not to use TextViews as buttons (ex clickable elements)? This way I can avoid adding extra styles toa button achieve what is basically a clickable label.
Jul 05 10:46:47 <Eplebit> well, you won't get the click-responses that I would think users would expect?
Jul 05 10:46:55 <Eplebit> like that you can see that you press the button
Jul 05 10:48:29 <wyoung> hey, I am testing out Android wear 2.0 preview, when the device is off charge (on battery) it seems to watch face timer's update / delay time is doubled.
Jul 05 10:48:43 <Number5> Hello buddies, since I don't want to reinvent the wheel (which is quite smart from me :P), I was wondering if there is a well designed library or code to hide/transparant actionbar when user scrolls down. I see this technique is often used, so I want to know it too. Can someone help me? Hints or tips are welcome.
Jul 05 10:48:53 <battery> :|  stop battery wyoung
Jul 05 10:49:31 <wyoung> battery: what?
Jul 05 10:49:38 <wyoung> Is that a bot response?
Jul 05 10:49:59 <battery> not highlight battery
Jul 05 10:50:02 <battery> wyoung: plz
Jul 05 10:50:50 <wyoung> battery: oh, I was talking about the battery in an android device.  It seems that when the device is on battery there is some type of delay added
Jul 05 10:50:53 <markyosullivan> Number5: Think I seen something on GitHub for that
Jul 05 10:51:15 <battery> :|
Jul 05 10:51:46 <wyoung> battery: it is a pretty common word, I am suprised you don't get "highlighted" more often
Jul 05 10:52:15 <battery> use ‘energy bar’ instead of battery
Jul 05 10:52:17 <battery> plz
Jul 05 10:52:52 <wyoung> battery: when I am on energy bar doesn't make sense
Jul 05 10:54:31 <battery> this channel people use ‘energy bar’ except you.
Jul 05 10:54:33 <battery> wyoung:
Jul 05 10:55:38 <Ashiren> why dont you switch to 'the'
Jul 05 10:57:45 <thepoosh> Ashiren: stop solving everyone's issues
Jul 05 10:57:47 <markyosullivan> Number5: Perhaps not quite what you're looking for but I hope it will help you - https://github.com/florent37/MaterialViewPager
Jul 05 10:57:51 <thepoosh> just accept who they are
Jul 05 11:01:16 <wyoung> thepoosh: isn't that a good thing though?
Jul 05 11:01:35 <thepoosh> stop mansplaining
Jul 05 11:02:43 <Number5> markyosullivan, thank you my friend
Jul 05 11:28:06 <njcomsec> from android studio when i run app on phone it runs but then if i launch from phone after it is older version .. so the new build isnt being saved. it used to, how can i fix?
Jul 05 11:30:18 <njcomsec> oh wait.. somehow it installed a copy of the app
Jul 05 11:30:31 <njcomsec> i thought 2 apps with the same namespace was not possible
Jul 05 11:30:55 <Zta77> asdfsaf
Jul 05 11:31:08 <Fishbowled> what is the emulator file that android studio uses to launch avd images? Is it a qemu file renamed? (Sorry if this is a dumb question)
Jul 05 11:31:56 <Zta77> Fishbowled: "emulator"
Jul 05 11:32:11 <Zta77> e.g. /opt/android-sdk/tools/emulator
Jul 05 11:32:38 <Fishbowled> Zta77: that's the exact name of the file.. file 'emulator' tells me it's an exe but what I'm wondering is it a google tool or a qemu renamed file?
Jul 05 11:33:01 <Zta77> I think it's a renamed qemu.  It knows how to read configuration files, but I don't know if qemu is capable of this too.
Jul 05 11:33:10 <Fishbowled> Zta77: I mean running it and trying to load an avd gives me a qemu error
Jul 05 11:34:10 <Fishbowled> damn I just compiled qemu to have a look if maybe I could try and find out why it won't start an image, but lol qemu is a very big project to understand.
Jul 05 11:34:21 <Zta77> It's either a modified qemu (e.g. capable of reading ~/.android/avd/ files), or a wrapper for qemu (parsing avd files and feeding args to qemu).
Jul 05 11:35:34 <Zta77> You can run "emulator" with option -qemu and then start feeding it qemu options. So it's at least heavily qemu-based.
Jul 05 11:35:51 <Fishbowled> Zta77: cool I'll check doing that out then
Jul 05 11:38:36 <Zta77> Fishbowled: It's typically not necessary.  The only qemu option I pass is -qemu -enable-kvm
Jul 05 11:40:31 <Zta77> Fishbowled: This is all you need: "emulator @Nexus_5_API_23"   I typically add " -gpu on -qemu -enable-kvm"
Jul 05 11:41:05 <Fishbowled> qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0xff91c756 <
Jul 05 11:49:17 <Fishbowled> okay, fresh start, thx for the help chan
Jul 05 11:51:09 <njcomsec> what would make my app install a duplicate on my phone?
Jul 05 11:51:21 <njcomsec> from the same project
Jul 05 11:57:50 <raoul11> njcomsec: diff pacakge names?
Jul 05 12:00:55 <t0th_-_> hi, i defined my accent color in my theme, in Android 4.1 the accent color are showed when i select edittext but in Andorid 5 not, how i can solve this?
Jul 05 12:06:28 <njcomsec> no it is the same project and i didnt change the package name or any build info
Jul 05 12:08:52 <raoul11> package names are unique ids, it would have updated the existing app rather than installing another
Jul 05 12:11:07 <njcomsec> i know. thats why its so weird
Jul 05 12:11:23 <raoul11> recheck it /:
Jul 05 12:11:59 <t0th_-_> hi, i defined my accent color in my theme, in Android 4.1 the accent color are showed when i select edittext but in Andorid 5 not, how i can solve this?
Jul 05 12:17:27 <raoul11> t0th_-_ try this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26608390/android-v21-theme-appcompat-color-accent-is-ignored-no-padding-on-dialogs
Jul 05 12:17:28 <ciast> hello, anybody can help me compiling example of SDL2?
Jul 05 12:17:55 <raoul11> might provide some info
Jul 05 12:20:58 <Eplebit> raoul11: hmm, thanks. I think I need to look into that as well, actually...
Jul 05 12:22:10 <Zta77> njcomsec: Debug vs Beta vs Relase build type?
Jul 05 12:22:35 <purplex88> When you need to display two fragments side by side on tablet, is it necessary to create them via XML? Almost all the examples are doing it.
Jul 05 12:22:48 <Zta77> That implicitly changes the package name.  Well, rather explicitly actually, but Gradles does it behind the scenes.
Jul 05 12:25:32 <Mavrik> purplex88, no.
Jul 05 12:27:05 <purplex88> Mavrik: I guess i mean multi-pane fragment. So, I will add two empty containers horizontally?
Jul 05 12:27:07 <ciast> anybody can help me ? How starting with ndk? when i download it what i can compiling hello world or any example?
Jul 05 12:27:39 <Mavrik> purplex88, yeah, add containers and then attach fragments in code
Jul 05 12:28:07 <purplex88> or is it like two containers nested inside one container which has horizontal orientation.
Jul 05 12:29:56 <njcomsec> thanks zta ill look into that
Jul 05 12:31:32 <purplex88> guess I'll figure that one out.
Jul 05 12:32:40 <wviana> Good mornig
Jul 05 12:36:10 <purplex88> morning
Jul 05 12:37:50 <ciast> wviana: Hello
Jul 05 12:40:40 <t0th_-_> i have this error on lolipop devices You need to use a Theme.AppCompat theme (or descendant) with this activity. how i can solve this?
Jul 05 12:41:39 <purplex88> t0th_-_: why can't you write it?
Jul 05 12:42:17 <JustinHitla> where do you think one can earn more money, developing software for android or for iOS ?
Jul 05 12:43:30 <JustinHitla> android's user base is bigger but on the other hand apple products are more expensive so their owners are ritcher and you can charger them more
Jul 05 12:44:28 <purplex88> JustinHitla: publish it on googleplay
Jul 05 12:44:51 <ciast> how using ndk , anybody can help me? how compiling any example in C?
Jul 05 12:46:44 <purplex88> ciast: this: https://gist.github.com/gnuanu/252fd406f48f7da2c1c7/ ?
Jul 05 12:48:06 <MisterGadfly> Can I obfuscate somehow my sqlite database that's in my assets folder?
Jul 05 12:51:20 <ciast> purplex88: is any example with commandline this is too complicated (and no sdl2 library) meybe ndk have any example? how compiling this example?
Jul 05 12:54:59 <purplex88> ciast: why aren't you using android studio? i think it will be more easier than working with command line.
Jul 05 13:00:08 <t0th_-_> i have this error on lolipop devices You need to use a Theme.AppCompat theme (or descendant) with this activity. how i can solve this?
Jul 05 13:02:42 <ciast> purplex88: studio is too big i have tiny internet
Jul 05 13:03:01 <purplex88> lol
Jul 05 13:03:17 <gordon_> https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/750266272609345536
Jul 05 13:03:19 <gordon_> gg wp
Jul 05 13:03:36 <purplex88> well, to compile it with command line you will still need the big sdk
Jul 05 13:06:11 <markyosullivan> gordon_: lol is that actually in Android 4.4?
Jul 05 13:06:12 <raoul11> gordon_, "ballsack emoji, finally."
Jul 05 13:06:32 <raoul11> best, twitt, ever.
Jul 05 13:06:39 <markyosullivan> lol "tiny internet"
Jul 05 13:06:39 <markyosullivan> what
Jul 05 13:09:49 <t0th_-> I add styles-v21 why my edittext not getting a accent color in focus?
Jul 05 13:14:47 <gordon_> markyosullivan: try ;)
Jul 05 13:15:08 <thepoosh> raoul11: is that an actual emoji?
Jul 05 13:15:12 <thepoosh> if so I want it
Jul 05 13:15:37 <raoul11> i know u do u sicko.
Jul 05 13:15:53 <thepoosh> I need it for tbagging reasons
Jul 05 13:16:48 <raoul11> \:
Jul 05 13:18:08 <thepoosh> why the long face?
Jul 05 13:19:13 <raoul11> my brain isnt functioning properly atm thepoosh
Jul 05 13:19:53 <purplex88> so i create a new resource directory why it doesn't appear in 'Android' directories? I can see it in Project directories tree only
Jul 05 13:20:17 <Felishia> how can I write a quick webserver in Java?
Jul 05 13:20:23 <Felishia> for android
Jul 05 13:20:38 <thepoosh> Felishia: webserver has nothing to do with the platform using it
Jul 05 13:20:47 <Felishia> I don't want any interface or anything... just open the program, webserver is running, close the program, it's not anymore
Jul 05 13:20:47 <raoul11> oh finally
Jul 05 13:20:52 <thepoosh> purplex88: where is it in the dir?
Jul 05 13:21:21 <thepoosh> Felishia: still, nothing to do with android
Jul 05 13:21:31 <thepoosh> web services are web services, not android applications
Jul 05 13:21:53 <Felishia> thepoosh, the webservice is supposed to run in android
Jul 05 13:22:06 <Felishia> and listen to requests from it
Jul 05 13:22:10 <purplex88> thepoosh: I am right clicking on layout dir and selecting new > directory after i press ok its not appearing
Jul 05 13:22:26 <gordon_> Felishia: wat
Jul 05 13:22:27 <thepoosh> purplex88: in the filesystem, where is it?
Jul 05 13:22:40 <thepoosh> Felishia: is it an application running on an android device?
Jul 05 13:22:46 <Felishia> eg. if my phone is in 192.168.1.17 in my network, doing 192.168.1.17/ping in my desktop browser should return pong,
Jul 05 13:22:49 <Felishia> yes
Jul 05 13:23:08 <thepoosh> :S
Jul 05 13:23:14 <Felishia> so the server has to be hosted in the phone
Jul 05 13:23:27 <Felishia> any other protocol would also be fine
Jul 05 13:23:39 <Felishia> I just need to talk to the phone programatically in a reliable
Jul 05 13:23:42 <Felishia> reliable way
Jul 05 13:23:56 <Felishia> tell it what to do, to log some stuff, etc...
Jul 05 13:24:00 <purplex88> thepoosh: in dir "\app\src\main\res\layout"
Jul 05 13:24:06 <thepoosh> you can always open a socket but that sounds like a bad idea
Jul 05 13:24:18 <thepoosh> purplex88: that is the dir you created?
Jul 05 13:24:23 <purplex88> yes
Jul 05 13:24:31 <thepoosh> don't you already have one?
Jul 05 13:24:36 <purplex88> no i create a sub-dir in layout
Jul 05 13:24:43 <thepoosh> you can't do that
Jul 05 13:25:03 <purplex88> but other projects have it
Jul 05 13:25:12 <thepoosh> purplex88: https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
Jul 05 13:25:25 <thepoosh> layout dir never has sub directories
Jul 05 13:25:45 <Felishia> thepoosh, doesn't matter... it's for local uses
Jul 05 13:26:02 <Felishia> I need to send damn text messages from the computer... android should listen
Jul 05 13:26:18 <thepoosh> purplex88: https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html#qualifiers
Jul 05 13:26:25 <thepoosh> Felishia: ok, open a connection
Jul 05 13:26:31 <thepoosh> but still, bad idea
Jul 05 13:26:32 <Leeds> Felishia: airdroid
Jul 05 13:26:42 <Felishia> thepoosh, isn't there a way where I can just host something easily?
Jul 05 13:26:48 <thepoosh> I strongly suggest using FCM or some sort of SaaS
Jul 05 13:26:48 <Felishia> like a premade solution for a webserver?
Jul 05 13:26:55 <Felishia> someone else had to do that crazy thing before
Jul 05 13:26:59 <Felishia> I'm noob at android :<
Jul 05 13:27:56 <Leeds> I strongly suggest using Airdroid or some other existing app
Jul 05 13:27:59 <thepoosh> Felishia: look into https://firebase.google.com/docs/cloud-messaging/downstream
Jul 05 13:28:51 <Felishia> thepoosh, that's FCM I don't want that, I need SMS's
Jul 05 13:29:01 <thepoosh> WAT
Jul 05 13:29:09 <Leeds> Felishia: AIRDROID!
Jul 05 13:29:10 <t0th_-> I add styles-v21 why my edittext not getting a accent color in focus?
Jul 05 13:29:15 <Felishia> thepoosh, oh wait
Jul 05 13:29:19 * Leeds taps mike, is this thing on?
Jul 05 13:29:24 <Leeds> er, mic
Jul 05 13:29:36 <Felishia> nah
Jul 05 13:29:46 <thepoosh> Leeds: I think you meant SimonVT
Jul 05 13:30:34 <Leeds> thepoosh: WAT????
Jul 05 13:30:48 <thepoosh> nvm, I thought you meant to tap mods
Jul 05 13:30:59 <Leeds> I'm going to go away and eat my sashimi now
Jul 05 13:31:14 <SimonVT> Wat
Jul 05 13:31:19 <purplex88> thepoosh: not like these? https://www.dropbox.com/s/yf1kv532eso0i14/layoutdirs.png
Jul 05 13:32:03 <thepoosh> purplex88: if you move to the "Project Files" view you'll see it as it should be
Jul 05 13:32:11 <thepoosh> that is just an aggregation
Jul 05 13:32:48 <purplex88> I am seeing it in "Android" view hm
Jul 05 13:33:59 <purplex88> Just cannot recreate it other project
Jul 05 13:34:18 <Felishia> how can I deploy this to my phone?
Jul 05 13:34:23 <Felishia> https://github.com/andreivisan/AndroidHttpServer
Jul 05 13:34:25 <Felishia> to test if it work
Jul 05 13:34:27 <Felishia> if it works
Jul 05 13:41:16 <arkaros> Hi. Does anyone have any experience working with travis for android. The emulator seems to be a bit out of wack. A lot of my tests fail the first time but rerunning the same code works the second time. Any ideas?
Jul 05 13:46:23 <supay> Felishia: as far as i understand, its something to be used in another app, like a library. not run directly.
Jul 05 13:48:11 <Felishia> no it's a project on its own supay
Jul 05 13:48:21 <Felishia> but I have never done android dev... I don't understand this android studio
Jul 05 13:48:30 <supay> Felishia: im looking at its activity_main.xml file, looks like a default to me
Jul 05 13:48:57 <Felishia> can you give me guidelines on how to setup a standard app with that nanoHTTPD as they say?
Jul 05 13:49:32 <purplex88> thepoosh: understood now, it wasn't a directory just aggregation if you create a "large" layout https://www.dropbox.com/s/oksdjiaveh1vn4f/large_layout.png
Jul 05 13:49:38 <supay> Felishia: youll have to do your research, sorry. but as you see here - https://github.com/andreivisan/AndroidHttpServer/tree/master/app/src/main/java/server/http/android/androidhttpserver ; thats the juicy part of the project.
Jul 05 13:49:56 <Felishia> supay, I have problems configuring the project :<
Jul 05 13:54:49 <thepoosh> purplex88: yes
Jul 05 13:56:55 <Felishia> adb doesn't even run with an empty activity
Jul 05 13:59:53 <Felishia> why is adb not working? is it because I have 32 bits?
Jul 05 14:01:36 <Felishia> 1643584d	offline
Jul 05 14:01:40 <Felishia> what why?
Jul 05 14:01:56 <Felishia> then ADB not responding. If you'd like to retry, then please manually kill "adb" and click 'Restart'
Jul 05 14:02:15 <Felishia> so I can't even run a basic empty activity?
Jul 05 14:19:15 <thepoosh> Felishia: if you see the device and it's offline, it means you wither didn't approve USB debugging or you are mounted as a media device
Jul 05 14:21:57 <Felishia> I did...
Jul 05 14:22:03 <Felishia> chrome can see it
Jul 05 15:41:57 <hero_biz> hi guys.
Jul 05 15:42:09 <hero_biz> a quick question.
Jul 05 15:42:17 <supay> hero_biz: dont ask to ask, just ask
Jul 05 15:43:15 <hero_biz> let's assume that I wite a parcel in sharedpreferences with key 'x'. is it ok to write it again with key 'x' if size of parcel changes based on its content?
Jul 05 15:43:38 <supay> why would it be?
Jul 05 15:43:38 <hero_biz> for example, 20 bytes of data first time, 2nd time 50 bytes.
Jul 05 15:43:55 <supay> you just edit the value/overwrite it
Jul 05 15:43:57 <hero_biz> its internal data can increase
Jul 05 15:44:16 <supay> ?
Jul 05 15:44:23 <hero_biz> it won't affect other written data in sharedpreferences?
Jul 05 15:44:42 <supay> no
Jul 05 15:44:43 <hero_biz> if size of data for 1 key changes?
Jul 05 15:44:56 <hero_biz> ok,ty info :)
Jul 05 15:45:34 <supay> hero_biz: well, theyre strings. shouldnt be an issue.
Jul 05 15:45:35 <supay> np
Jul 05 16:02:03 <MisterGadfly> Let's say I want to add some animated "bubbles" to my background. What view and in what way could I do this?
Jul 05 16:07:55 <supay> MisterGadfly: what kind of animation? gif?
Jul 05 16:08:20 <MisterGadfly> supay: not really what I had in mind
Jul 05 16:09:24 <MisterGadfly> Hmm. Looking at Canvas. Don't know if it's overkill.
Jul 05 16:11:47 <explodes> In my AlertDialog with a custom content view, when I "show" a GONE element, the vertical size of the dialog doesnt update
Jul 05 16:11:53 <explodes> The view shown remains hidden
Jul 05 16:13:40 <supay> youre probably doing it wrong.
Jul 05 16:13:48 <supay> also, tough to help without code etc.
Jul 05 16:14:22 <MisterGadfly> supay: would the gif scale? Would the gif have to have a background?
Jul 05 16:15:49 <supay> MisterGadfly: https://github.com/bumptech/glide
Jul 05 16:17:06 <missingno> why does DragShadowBuilder use a WeakReference to that view you give it?
Jul 05 16:17:32 <missingno> I was about to create an anonymous inner class based off it and this made it look like it may be stored somewhere inappropriate
Jul 05 16:18:26 <MisterGadfly> supay: checking out
Jul 05 16:20:02 <missingno> weird guess I'll let leakcanary figure it out
Jul 05 16:20:55 <explodes> Does "createDebugCoverageReport" create coverage report for unit tests, instrumentation tests, or both?
Jul 05 16:23:04 <MisterGadfly> supay: hmm. Maybe I should use a GIF. Though, the library you gave me is useless for me. :P
Jul 05 16:23:10 <MisterGadfly> *to me
Jul 05 16:24:15 <MisterGadfly> There's a pattern to me asking you guys here. I'm asking you how to properly peel an orange and you guys give me guides on how to peel walnuts. :D
Jul 05 16:26:54 <alexfu> MisterGadfly: sounds like you're after a custom view that draws circles continously over a period of time
Jul 05 16:26:54 <sasser> mistergadly have you tried raisen bran
Jul 05 16:27:24 <alexfu> animating is nothing more than re-drawing the same thing a new a position in fast succession
Jul 05 16:27:25 <MisterGadfly> alexfu: how would I draw the circles?
Jul 05 16:27:36 <alexfu> *in a new position
Jul 05 16:27:50 <MisterGadfly> Use an image?
Jul 05 16:28:02 <alexfu> MisterGadfly: you create a custom View and override onDraw
Jul 05 16:28:54 <alexfu> MisterGadfly: then you can use Canvas.drawCircle to draw your circle
Jul 05 16:29:17 <MisterGadfly> alexfu: hmm. I'll research it. Thanks. :)
Jul 05 16:42:42 <MisterGadfly> Man, I'm regretting that I never studied math right now
Jul 05 16:42:55 <supay> lol, when given a direct answer, it goes over your head? :)
Jul 05 16:44:27 <MisterGadfly> supay: huh? :P
Jul 05 16:52:29 <yonatankoren> I want to add a 3-dot menu to my cardview, like in the Soundcloud app. What is the most straightforward approach to doing this?
Jul 05 16:52:53 <yonatankoren> I suppose my only real question is how to inflate that menu once the button is pressed on the card
Jul 05 16:53:12 <yonatankoren> so it is inflated with the corner of the menu touching the button
Jul 05 16:55:14 <yonatankoren> nvm, found myself a SO question
Jul 05 16:55:17 <yonatankoren> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34641240/toolbar-inside-cardview-to-create-a-popup-menu-overflow-icon
Jul 05 17:04:05 <g00s> yonatankoren use ActionMenuView, not Toolbar
Jul 05 17:07:55 <MisterGadfly> Cool. Android Studio simulates the canvas animations.
Jul 05 17:20:48 <nadav_> Hi guys, any easy way of prompting the user for a map and a search bar for him to insert al ocation?
Jul 05 17:21:26 <pepperoni> this android.mk compiles and I see shared libs, but i don't see an .apk, thoughts ... http://pastebin.com/nNu3wRjj
Jul 05 17:24:56 <pfn> android.mk doesn't generate an apk
Jul 05 17:25:10 <pepperoni> ah, so, how would I go about doing that?
Jul 05 17:25:28 <pfn> by using rules that generate an apk
Jul 05 17:25:35 <pfn> or using the appropriate build tool
Jul 05 17:25:50 <pepperoni> could you point me to some examples?
Jul 05 17:26:05 <pfn> aosp is full of android.mk examples
Jul 05 17:26:14 <pfn> otherwise, read up on android app fundamentals
Jul 05 17:28:56 <plugyn> Heya. I'm using Firebase cloud messaging api, and does anyone have an idea on how to store the payload in a preferences when the app is terminated?
Jul 05 17:29:24 <plugyn> So far I only receive notifications, which is great but I don't know how to store the actual data
Jul 05 17:29:39 <plugyn> when the app is closed at least, when it's open it works perfeclty
Jul 05 17:39:46 <Felishia> will a timertask keep running even if the phone screen is turned off?
Jul 05 17:39:51 <Felishia> halp? D:
Jul 05 17:40:11 <plugyn> yes
Jul 05 17:41:12 <plugyn> Felishia: woops, i thought you said alarmtask
Jul 05 17:41:16 <plugyn> sorry
Jul 05 17:41:37 <Felishia> but an alarmtask won't die unless I kill the app? plugyn
Jul 05 17:41:46 <Felishia> I need it to die when the app is closed
Jul 05 17:41:55 <Felishia> and I need it to keep running regardless anything
Jul 05 17:43:12 <plugyn> you can probably get the alarm to terminate on conditions
Jul 05 17:43:51 <Felishia> I'll just keep going with timertask
Jul 05 17:44:01 <Felishia> if it dies when the app dies it should be fine
Jul 05 17:47:29 <thepoosh> g00s: morning
Jul 05 17:47:45 <g00s> hey thepoosh
Jul 05 17:47:55 <thepoosh> so, what's news?
Jul 05 17:49:12 <g00s> lol not much, /r/androidev agere article
Jul 05 17:49:17 <thepoosh> ?
Jul 05 17:49:24 <g00s> hillary is going free
Jul 05 17:49:29 <thepoosh> yeah, heard
Jul 05 17:49:39 <g00s> Giant Meteor 2016
Jul 05 17:49:43 <thepoosh> not for here, but i think there is no good outcome from that
Jul 05 17:50:02 <zinx> someone let her out of her cage?
Jul 05 17:51:44 <razor1101> hillary is old news
Jul 05 17:53:07 <CedricBeust>  She's probably going to be current news for the next four years, but unless her mail server was hosted on an Android device, I suggest taking this to another channel.
Jul 05 17:54:35 <shmooz> I don't watch or hear any news I better look up what she did
Jul 05 17:55:23 <g00s> thepoosh did you see the discussion yesterday on /r/androiddev about navigation + MVP ?
Jul 05 17:56:00 <shmooz> oh the same old email story bah
Jul 05 17:57:10 <g00s> oh its Agera not Agere
Jul 05 17:58:21 <g00s> thepoosh https://www.reddit.com/r/androiddev/comments/4r6ngw/navigation_in_the_context_of_mvp/
Jul 05 17:58:57 <g00s> i just put all that stuff in the activities. but still seems like a mess
Jul 05 18:01:33 <plugyn> I really hate reddit's nested comment system
Jul 05 18:01:49 <g00s> yeah - better than HN though, at least you can collapse
Jul 05 18:02:06 <plugyn> what's HN?
Jul 05 18:02:25 <g00s> hacker news
Jul 05 18:02:28 <plugyn> oh.
Jul 05 18:02:43 <plugyn> I just read their articles, i don't think I've seen the comment section at all
Jul 05 18:04:49 <dontknow> anyone knows how i can see the license of android apps.
Jul 05 18:05:18 <dontknow> i don't see in google play
Jul 05 18:06:37 <plugyn> if only they were all GPL3 :<
Jul 05 18:07:15 <Mavrik> dontknow, there's no such entry.
Jul 05 18:07:19 <dontknow> plugyn, yeah
Jul 05 18:08:06 <raatmarien> just use F-Droid
Jul 05 18:08:12 <raatmarien> if you want open source projects
Jul 05 18:08:24 <hcn_acripps> I'm trying to include an up to date webview in an AOSP build. When I include it (com.google.android.webview), but don't include com.android.webview, the WebViewFactory craps the bed. Does android make assumptions about the presence of com.android.webview? Is this something that is always supposed to be present, or am I doing something wrong?
Jul 05 18:09:04 <plugyn> raatmarien: oh nice, thanks
Jul 05 18:09:22 <dontknow> raatmarien, is it legit and made by known people?
Jul 05 18:10:00 <plugyn> dontknow: it says use at your own risk
Jul 05 18:10:10 <plugyn> dontknow: https://f-droid.org/about/
Jul 05 18:11:14 <dontknow> plugyn, thanks
Jul 05 18:12:09 <dontknow> but don't they have to show the license and terms of usage?
Jul 05 18:12:31 <dontknow> i mean google play
Jul 05 18:13:28 <dontknow> i downloaded a game, it has access frigging everything
Jul 05 18:16:16 <g00s> dontknow oh, thats the privacy statement
Jul 05 18:16:48 <dontknow> g00s, what? where
Jul 05 18:17:31 <g00s> developers have the option in Play Console, of uploading a privacy statement. but its not required
Jul 05 18:17:39 <g00s> so you may not see it on the store listing
Jul 05 18:17:45 <g00s> all you can do is see the permissions
Jul 05 18:23:17 <dontknow> as a dev. does the app with lots of permission use all of them? for example, lets say it has access to phone contacts. does it send contacts to dev?
Jul 05 18:23:33 <g00s> dontknow
Jul 05 18:23:39 <Ashiren> it may, it may not
Jul 05 18:23:42 <Ashiren> you never know
Jul 05 18:23:45 <Ashiren> but it has access
Jul 05 18:23:54 <Ashiren> but the app does its up to developer
Jul 05 18:23:58 <Mavrik> hcn_acripps, WebView is always present yes.
Jul 05 18:24:10 <Mavrik> Not sure what you're doing though.
Jul 05 18:24:20 <Mavrik> Especially since WebView is being independently updated on newer androids
Jul 05 18:26:31 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: My requirement is to ensure that the latest webview is always used when applications request a webview. The easiest way for me to do this was to remove com.android.webview. I don't know how the underlying machinery works to determine which webview ought to be used.
Jul 05 18:27:22 <dontknow> Ashiren, a permission can be an obligation. without it app wouldn't work?
Jul 05 18:27:43 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: also, for various reasons google play services need to be disabled/removed from the ROM that I'm working on, so updating from the play store isn't an option.
Jul 05 18:28:03 <hcn_acripps> (I know it's stupid, but it's a constraint that I need to work within for the time being)
Jul 05 18:28:11 <Mavrik> God.
Jul 05 18:28:21 <hcn_acripps> I know, right?
Jul 05 18:28:25 <Mavrik> Wasn't just easier use packed chrome in your applications?
Jul 05 18:28:43 <hcn_acripps> also working with apk size constraints :-/
Jul 05 18:28:47 <Mavrik> I'd probably go the route of using Play Store APK for WebView update
Jul 05 18:28:58 <Mavrik> Before messing with OS internals.
Jul 05 18:29:08 <Mavrik> But that's mostly because I don't know what else relies on WebView being integrated.
Jul 05 18:29:23 <Mavrik> Hmm, custom ROM with APK size limits? Fun :D
Jul 05 18:29:34 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: I have the play store APK being included/installed on my image build. I just want to ensure that it's what's going to be used when apps request a web view
Jul 05 18:29:51 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: I know. This whole project is as fun as a barrel of monkeys ;-)
Jul 05 18:30:07 <Mavrik> Well, if it's installed, it's always used.
Jul 05 18:30:19 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: then I'm satisfied :-)
Jul 05 18:30:35 <Mavrik> (On Andorid 5.0 or whenever it was introduced=
Jul 05 18:30:48 <hcn_acripps> we're working on 5.1, so it's all good.
Jul 05 18:30:48 <Mavrik> Would have to check the source to be 100% sure
Jul 05 18:31:07 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: do you know where I might start looking for that?
Jul 05 18:32:48 <dontknow> does anyone know where mobile firefox store the profile?
Jul 05 18:33:09 <razor1101> the profile?
Jul 05 18:34:49 <dontknow> razor1101, firefox creates a folder stores everything
Jul 05 18:35:33 <dontknow> every option you change, installed addons etc
Jul 05 18:36:36 <Mavrik> hcn_acripps, frameworks/webview? :)
Jul 05 18:37:18 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: got it. frameworks/base/core/java/android/webkit/WebViewFactory.java
Jul 05 18:38:16 <Mavrik> yep, and the webview itself is in ./external/chromium-webview
Jul 05 18:38:20 <razor1101> dontknow: it should be in /data/data
Jul 05 18:39:17 <hcn_acripps> Mavrik: well ... not really ;-)  ... external/chromium-webview is a prebuilt library. The webview can also be built from external/chromium_org, but even that is going the way of the dodod.
Jul 05 18:39:21 <hcn_acripps> *dodo
Jul 05 18:39:26 <Mavrik> mhm
Jul 05 18:40:38 <dontknow> razor1101, i don't have such folder
Jul 05 18:41:05 <razor1101> dontknow: you need to be rooted to access that
Jul 05 18:41:12 <dontknow> ah
Jul 05 18:41:28 <dontknow> it sucks
Jul 05 18:41:43 <razor1101> security measures
Jul 05 18:42:32 <Ashiren> you coul try also sdcard's Android/data/org.mozilla.firefox
Jul 05 18:43:05 <dontknow> Ashiren, i don't have sd card lol
Jul 05 18:43:09 <razor1101> i tried that before i answered
Jul 05 18:43:24 <razor1101> nothing there except a download folder
Jul 05 18:43:45 <Ashiren> well then "external" storage
Jul 05 18:44:33 <razor1101> i have only internal
Jul 05 18:47:36 <dontknow> i may access it with connecting my phone with computer
Jul 05 18:48:37 <razor1101> maybe with adb pull
Jul 05 18:51:54 <dontknow> i connect it to gnu/linux :D
Jul 05 19:34:59 <Guest56667> How do you set your Google Play User to use PUBLIC leaderboards?
Jul 05 19:44:16 <develCuy> Answering my own question, there is a nice persistent storage library for Androdi: https://love2d.org/wiki/bitser
Jul 05 19:51:14 <zombie314> develCuy: how persistent do you need?  survive an uninstall?
Jul 05 19:51:29 <develCuy> nope
Jul 05 19:51:44 <develCuy> just like an small database for storing user data
Jul 05 19:52:24 <zombie314> take a look at sharedpreferences
Jul 05 19:52:53 <morfin> hello
Jul 05 19:53:00 <Ashiren> ohai
Jul 05 19:53:09 <zombie314> YOU ARE HERE TO HELP ME RIGHT
Jul 05 19:53:20 <morfin> should i root my Android device to run thing i pushed via adb?
Jul 05 19:53:21 <zombie314> yes, you morfin
Jul 05 19:53:30 <morfin> can't chmod
Jul 05 19:53:42 <Ashiren> what thing, some script?
Jul 05 19:53:50 <morfin> nope, application
Jul 05 19:53:50 <Ashiren> thats a job for #android-root channel
Jul 05 19:53:54 <Ashiren> apk?
Jul 05 19:54:02 <morfin> nope just binary
Jul 05 19:54:20 <morfin> compiled simple C++ prog into console app and pushed via adb
Jul 05 19:54:27 <zombie314> morfin, it's so easy to root android devices these days - just go ahead and do it
Jul 05 19:54:37 <Ashiren> have you tried to just run it
Jul 05 19:54:40 <Ashiren> might not need chmod
Jul 05 19:55:09 <zombie314> what did you push via adb
Jul 05 19:55:45 <zombie314> manifest & everything, nicely zipped as an apk?  or just an app?
Jul 05 19:55:53 <zombie314> i mean executable
Jul 05 19:55:56 <morfin> just an app without anything
Jul 05 19:57:30 <morfin> did you ever hear USB?
Jul 05 19:58:04 <morfin> i am hearing signals right now because my headphones cable is so close to the USB cable connected to my phone
Jul 05 20:00:36 <zombie314> morfin you have to make a few more steps if you don't want to root your phone.
Jul 05 20:01:14 <zombie314> ok, let me make space for a usb-diag driver expert:
Jul 05 20:01:17 <zombie314> .
Jul 05 20:02:19 <zombie314> dear usb-diag driver guru, why would my lg usb-diag drivers not load?  they are installed, and the normal adb drivers work fine.  when i run setop sys.usb.con diag,adb  things go wrong
Jul 05 20:02:21 <zombie314> .
Jul 05 20:02:40 <zombie314> damn rayne
Jul 05 20:02:52 <hcn_acripps> zombie314: it's because you touch yourself at night.
Jul 05 20:02:58 <hcn_acripps> usb is fickle like that.
Jul 05 20:03:14 <zombie314> hcn_acripps: how did you find out
Jul 05 20:03:28 <zombie314> have you hacked my camera
Jul 05 20:03:29 <hcn_acripps> zombie314: usb is *also* extremely informative.
Jul 05 20:05:05 <hcn_acripps> morfin: you're probably hearing stuff in your headphones because your phone is plugged in to usb. Happens on lots of devices.
Jul 05 20:06:26 <hcn_acripps> something having to do with AC alternating. Funny thing, that.
Jul 05 20:06:54 <zombie314> morfin - put your phone on airplane mode and see if the usb noise goes away
Jul 05 20:07:00 <hcn_acripps> it won't.
Jul 05 20:07:20 <zombie314> even if you are not rally on an airplane.
Jul 05 20:07:23 <hcn_acripps> switching cables or charging bricks might help.
Jul 05 20:07:30 <hcn_acripps> emphasis on "might"
Jul 05 20:07:46 <zombie314> just imagine the captain saying all mobile devices should be turned off before takeoff
Jul 05 20:07:53 <hcn_acripps> lol.
Jul 05 20:07:57 <zombie314> and the captain is a she
Jul 05 20:08:08 <zombie314> but very strict
Jul 05 20:08:19 <hcn_acripps> one might say, dominant?
Jul 05 20:08:27 <zombie314> cough yes
Jul 05 20:09:12 <zombie314> i've never tried to charge a brick before
Jul 05 20:09:42 <zombie314> ok back to the usb drivers
Jul 05 20:09:49 <hcn_acripps> zombie314: the courts will usually throw out the charges. Something about a brick not being sentient.
Jul 05 20:11:54 <zombie314> it could be civil forfeiture - then the brick could be charged
Jul 05 20:12:18 <hcn_acripps> no objections.
Jul 05 20:12:37 <zombie314> us vs 2000 pounds of shark fins
Jul 05 20:13:08 <zombie314> so here is where i got me drivers http://www.lg.com/us/lgeai/drivers
Jul 05 20:15:49 <steran> hello, does someone know what event gets called when an activity or fragment gets resized when the soft keyboard enters the screen? I set setSoftInputMode to Soft input adjust resize which I need
Jul 05 20:22:10 <zombie314> <Data>Installed LG Mobile Driver</Data> </EventData> </Event>
Jul 05 20:22:26 <zombie314> event viewer says i did not dream
Jul 05 20:25:14 <morfin> btw Qt application require manifest etc
Jul 05 20:25:23 <morfin> but that's next step
Jul 05 20:27:05 <zombie314> yes, in android it has to be camouflaged as a java app so the dalvik engine can run it
Jul 05 20:28:01 <morfin> dalvik engine?
Jul 05 20:28:02 <zombie314> so, a few steps more after compiling  int main(){printf("helloworld");}
Jul 05 20:29:44 <zombie314> google would be better than me
Jul 05 20:29:53 <zombie314> in this one rare case, morfin
Jul 05 20:30:31 <zombie314> AND also when LG Diag usb drivers are concerned
Jul 05 20:30:50 <bradfordli123> my application is crashing in this line of my proj and Im not sure how to debug it. `SQLiteDatabase db = getReadableDatabase();`
Jul 05 20:37:09 <zombie314> AHHHH
Jul 05 20:37:32 <rosten> bradfordli123: did you write your own SQLiteOpenHelper?
Jul 05 20:37:49 <zombie314> it's because when you say setconf  the usb id change to USB\VID_05C6&PID_903D&REV_0310&MI_00 which is a QUALCOM devices
Jul 05 20:37:52 <zombie314> dayum
Jul 05 20:38:54 <rosten> bradfordli123: read the logcat and grep it for "database"
Jul 05 20:51:30 <missingno> does LayoutTransition animate scaleX/scaleY?
Jul 05 20:56:45 <zombie314> w000000000000000000000t
Jul 05 20:57:02 <zombie314> at+cfun? worked!
Jul 05 20:57:21 <zombie314> damn lg drivers are worthless
Jul 05 20:57:42 <zombie314> it's qualcomm drivers, baby
Jul 05 21:09:07 <edisonswife> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/12039813/Smartphones-to-die-out-within-five-years-says-new-study.html
Jul 05 21:09:24 <edisonswife> really, smartphones to die out in 5 years? i doubt it
Jul 05 21:09:33 <rosten> oh no, we'll all go back to the desktops for our information needs
Jul 05 21:10:27 <edisonswife> the basic needs, call, listen to music and camera, how will they replace them? and how would all info come to you? nah, it is way to early. By 2030 maybe...
Jul 05 21:10:52 <rosten> i'd say 5 years from now smartphones/tablets can run VR gear for an even larger virtual desktop anywhere you like
Jul 05 21:11:07 <edisonswife> im probably getting old but at 35 for the first time im not so positive to new tech anymore, AI is kind of scary...
Jul 05 21:11:28 <flappynerd> if you think AI is scary then you don't know much about AI
Jul 05 21:11:38 <edisonswife> huh?
Jul 05 21:11:52 <edisonswife> A lot of "important" and smart people find it scary
Jul 05 21:12:02 <flappynerd> who also don't know much about it
Jul 05 21:12:11 <edisonswife> Page and Brin?
Jul 05 21:12:12 <flappynerd> people find things that they don't know to be scary
Jul 05 21:12:36 <rosten> Musk and Hawking?
Jul 05 21:12:37 <edisonswife> rosten: that might be true but then you still use the phone....
Jul 05 21:12:44 <g00s> flappand Nick Bostrom ,,,
Jul 05 21:12:48 <rosten> edisonswife: of course, that was the point
Jul 05 21:12:49 <flappynerd> yeah hawking is a perfect example
Jul 05 21:12:56 <flappynerd> hawking is not an AI researcher
Jul 05 21:13:08 <edisonswife> I mentioned Brin and Page
Jul 05 21:13:08 <rosten> flappynerd: you don't think he's dabbled a little bit at least?
Jul 05 21:13:25 <flappynerd> rosten, that would then fit the criteria of "don't know much"
Jul 05 21:13:25 <edisonswife> you disregarded those bc they didnt fit with your idea
Jul 05 21:13:30 <flappynerd> key word "much"
Jul 05 21:13:41 <rosten> flappynerd: give me an example of someone that knows much?
Jul 05 21:13:47 <flappynerd> people who know a little about AI but who haven't ever actually done research are typically the ones who find it scary
Jul 05 21:14:50 <kbs> do brin or page live in fear of AI?
Jul 05 21:14:59 <rosten> what's his face, goetze? hmm
Jul 05 21:14:59 <shmooz> yeah ericsson will die out in 5 years
Jul 05 21:15:37 <edisonswife> Anyway, anyone working on something interesting?
Jul 05 21:15:57 <shmooz> smart phones won't die until we make 16k AR/VR glasses that look like normal glasses
Jul 05 21:16:20 <hcn_acripps> shmooz: AR/VR contacts.
Jul 05 21:16:35 <truckcrash> lol. what is the point?
Jul 05 21:16:39 <hcn_acripps> ... or biological implants.
Jul 05 21:16:52 * hcn_acripps wants biological implants.
Jul 05 21:16:52 <shmooz> I won't wear those, just glasses
Jul 05 21:17:03 <edisonswife> that is what scares me - humanity changing. but i gues it will be gradual
Jul 05 21:17:18 <truckcrash> ohhh... i thought you meant contacts as in an address book. That would be a pointless app
Jul 05 21:17:26 <hcn_acripps> lol.
Jul 05 21:17:36 <rosten> it's funny we're still calling things phone when they transfer so much more than voice
Jul 05 21:17:36 <hcn_acripps> edisonswife: it's already changed.
Jul 05 21:18:19 <hcn_acripps> glasses, contacts, BT hearing aids, BT pacemakers, "smart" prosthetics ...
Jul 05 21:19:05 <hcn_acripps> ah; crap.
Jul 05 21:20:08 <hcn_acripps> I have new webview installed, but the WebViewFactory is using the old com.android.webview version -_-
Jul 05 21:25:52 <g00s> i think that article has a grain of truth to it "But consumer interest in new interaction paradigms such as AI and virtual reality (VR), as well as in embedding the internet in the walls of homes or even in our bodies, is quite strong."
Jul 05 21:26:23 <g00s> new interaction paradigms - people are getting tired of WIMP-ish UIs adopted for 4" screens
Jul 05 21:26:31 <kbs> fwiw, original trend report https://www.ericsson.com/res/docs/2015/consumerlab/ericsson-consumerlab-10-hot-consumer-trends-2016-report.pdf
Jul 05 21:27:02 <rosten> g00s: that means we'll put larger tablets in the walls, not desktops
Jul 05 21:27:04 <g00s> wouldn't be surprised if the phone 5 years from now is like a small iPod with no screen, and you interact using AR glasses, etc
Jul 05 21:27:21 <g00s> so the end of rectangles
Jul 05 21:27:29 <rosten> yup
Jul 05 21:28:16 <explodes> When will API24 sources be downloadable from the SDK manager/
Jul 05 21:28:31 <explodes> Right now I cannot click into sources in AS
Jul 05 21:28:39 <flappynerd> I would be surprised about that
Jul 05 21:28:41 <pepperoni> i'm trying to build an apk with android.mk, anyone see where i'm going wrong? ... http://pastebin.com/nNu3wRjj
Jul 05 21:29:00 <flappynerd> there are intrinsic problems with VR/AR such as eye strain
Jul 05 21:29:07 <flappynerd> I don't want to have to put on glasses in order to use my phone
Jul 05 21:29:26 <flappynerd> and I'm sure a very large number of people feel the same
Jul 05 21:31:18 <kbs> I've sometimes wondered if an earpiece + mike combo might be more interesting
Jul 05 21:31:24 <zhntr> Mobile VR seems to be something very impractical at the moment
Jul 05 21:31:32 <g00s> kbs like agent smith :)
Jul 05 21:32:15 <kbs> g00s: I guess, didn't make the connection till you pointed it out :) but it seems that a portable version of echo/google home might be useful
Jul 05 21:32:29 <wyrdtrtle> yeah, like every one of us that needs glasses to see
Jul 05 21:32:47 <pfn> pepperoni, the fact that your Android.mk isn't an apk target
Jul 05 21:33:56 <pepperoni> pfn: ok, guess i'm missing that then, i'll try to find more
Jul 05 21:34:10 <pfn> how can you even expect to build an apk...
Jul 05 21:34:24 <purplex88> why is my android emulator displays blurry text and icons?
Jul 05 21:34:34 <pfn> apk building targets aren't included outside of aosp
Jul 05 21:34:38 <pepperoni> pfn: believe me, i'm quite new at this and don't expect anything atm
Jul 05 21:34:46 <purplex88> no what resolution i choose its still same
Jul 05 21:34:50 <pfn> pepperoni, then don't try to build an apk with android.mk
Jul 05 21:34:50 <purplex88> matter^
Jul 05 21:34:57 <pfn> pepperoni, follow the d.android.com guides
Jul 05 21:36:04 <pepperoni> pfn: i've been all over those, and from what i'm betting for building an NDK, i should be using android.mk
Jul 05 21:36:11 <pepperoni> s/betting/getting
Jul 05 21:36:23 <pfn> yeah, but you don't build an android app using ndk
Jul 05 21:36:33 <pfn> ndk is only 1 small piece of an android app
Jul 05 21:37:25 <pepperoni> i have a c++ app i'm trying to build for android, runs totally in the background, i knoow it's not your normal android app
Jul 05 21:37:37 <pepperoni> more for research purposes
Jul 05 21:37:45 <pfn> you wouldn't build an apk out of that then
Jul 05 21:37:50 <pfn> add a main()
Jul 05 21:37:52 <pfn> link it
Jul 05 21:37:53 <pfn> and run
Jul 05 21:38:46 <pepperoni> i have an android_main(), was trying to do it w/ AndroidManifest.xml
Jul 05 21:38:48 <teasp00n> pfn: how do you run arbitrary code like that? do you need a terminal emulator on the android device or is there another way?
Jul 05 21:39:09 <pfn> there's no such thing as "android_main"
Jul 05 21:39:27 <pfn> teasp00n, you can fork a process, or adb shell
Jul 05 21:39:29 <pepperoni> then maybe i'm getting lots of blog and docs mixed up
Jul 05 21:40:30 <pfn> start by understanding what you're doing
Jul 05 21:40:40 <pfn> instead of copying and pasting until it compiles
Jul 05 21:40:51 <pepperoni> so i have a main, and running ndk-build builds my module (and eventually I'll try to link it w/ other *.so's) but how to i run it? I'm trying to figure out how to copy the so's to android and run since I can't use adb to install an apk
Jul 05 21:41:49 <pepperoni> pfn: well, i thought i did, built a small example with gradle that built an apk, and i was able to install that on the device, but gradle-experimental was a mess with native
Jul 05 21:49:40 <pepperoni> so if you have a small code example w/ a main, how do you link it and run it on a device w/o installing it as an apk?
Jul 05 21:56:22 <zhntr> clear
Jul 05 22:02:56 <pfn> you copy it over to device and run it
Jul 05 22:41:12 <YouCallItFar> how do i get back the EditText that i AlertDialog.Builder.setView()'d ?  i only see people get it by R.id but im constructing it proagramatically
Jul 05 22:44:28 <YouCallItFar> guess i can just track the value
Jul 05 23:05:51 <pepperoni> pfn: here was the android_main example I was trying at one point ... http://pastebin.com/6TudiNzA
Jul 05 23:05:55 <morfin> ok, what's wrong with Android?
Jul 05 23:06:04 <morfin> i can't run an app even as root(!)
Jul 05 23:19:00 <plugyn> morfin: as in root on the phone or in linux using android-studio?
Jul 05 23:19:10 <plugyn> morfin: ^
Jul 05 23:21:01 <morfin> i think there is some another protection
Jul 05 23:21:19 <morfin> yep as root on phone and as root from adb shell
Jul 05 23:22:46 <plugyn> morfin: have you enabled "run non-google play apps" or whatever
Jul 05 23:23:30 <morfin> yep
Jul 05 23:30:15 <morfin> ah crap
Jul 05 23:30:27 <morfin> sdcard is mounted with noexec flag
Jul 05 23:30:31 <plugyn> haha
Jul 05 23:31:39 <morfin> bullshit
Jul 05 23:32:39 <morfin> why in Android mv says cross-device linking?
Jul 05 23:41:55 <bradfordli123_> where can i learn how to make a scroll date picker? such as this? http://courses.codepath.com/course_images/intro_to_android/listly.gif
Jul 05 23:47:21 <surf2b1> bradfordli123_, https://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/DatePicker.html
Jul 05 23:47:27 <surf2b1> also, http://android-arsenal.com/tag/27?sort=rating
Jul 05 23:47:37 <bradfordli123_> surf2b1: thanks!
Jul 05 23:47:41 <morfin> well, seems like application started)
Jul 05 23:48:22 <morfin> no idea why sdcard being mounted as noexec, probably for security but that override any flags
Jul 05 23:48:38 <morfin> *permissions(that's same with Linux)
Jul 06 00:09:16 <zombie314> ok i got the diag port going with an htc version of the qualcom 903d debug driver. Any idea where i can get the LG/Nexus 5 version?
Jul 06 00:10:03 <g00s> zombie314 wrong channel, see topic
Jul 06 00:16:53 <zombie314> g00s you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny
Jul 06 00:17:03 <g00s> yeah i know
Jul 06 00:18:41 <zombie314> i need umts rscp in my application development. any ideas?
Jul 06 00:19:45 <zombie314> if it involves a usb driver, i would be ok with that
Jul 06 00:21:50 <zombie314> lgr i'm thinking of an app named BreXit
Jul 06 00:23:01 <zombie314> or alternatively Angry Brits
Jul 06 00:23:37 <g00s> zombie314 go global, call it Angry Idiots
Jul 06 00:25:21 <capella> "Founding Fathers"  :p
Jul 06 00:25:54 <zombie314> "press Y to exit"
Jul 06 00:39:29 <zombie314> i'm going to take a nap before continuing my Application Development
Jul 06 00:41:25 <Lewoco> Can Google play do downgrades?
Jul 06 00:42:04 <Lewoco> For example if currently published versionCode is 10 and I publish versionCode 9, are existing users with 10 downgraded to 9 or not?
Jul 06 00:42:45 <g00s> not even sure you can publish like that
Jul 06 01:02:02 <Lewoco> Looks like it's not possible: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10383321/android-apk-file-re-activate-older-apk-file-in-google-play-store
Jul 06 01:11:07 <kbs> worst case, could just update the version number though right?
Jul 06 01:15:20 <Lewoco> kbs, That's right.
Jul 06 01:20:02 <nesoi> hey if I have my own server and want my mobile app to use Facebook or Google authentication, then use that token to authenticate with my server, how do I do that? Does my server then have to validate the token back with Facebook or google etc?
Jul 06 01:20:02 <nesoi> in other words, I need login and security for communication with my own server and want to allow users to use facebook or google to log in rather than forcing them to create an account with me
Jul 06 01:22:46 <Artichokeslam> What you're looking for is called OAuth2
Jul 06 01:22:48 <Artichokeslam> https://developers.facebook.com/docs/facebook-login
Jul 06 01:23:12 <Artichokeslam> https://developers.google.com/identity/protocols/OpenIDConnect
Jul 06 01:23:22 <Artichokeslam> not the most simplest task to implement, but definitely doable
Jul 06 01:24:06 <nesoi> thanks Artichokeslam. Those examples don't seem to show how to use it to authorize users to access resources on our own server, with FB or Google acting as authentication and session granting agents
Jul 06 01:24:38 <Artichokeslam> I think once they're authenticated, they have a token which you can check for on your server
Jul 06 01:29:33 <kbs> So I used to refer to http://android-developers.blogspot.in/2013/01/verifying-back-end-calls-from-android.html - but looks like there's some updated docs now
Jul 06 01:30:19 <kbs> generally best suited for seamless google sign-in (un)fortunately, don't know situation with facebook
Jul 06 01:31:42 <kbs> I dunno if plugging into google play is a show-stopper, but tbray's solution ought(!) to work with just standard account manager apis
Jul 06 01:32:19 <kbs> (plugging into == linking against play client library) - of course still need play services enabled on the device
Jul 06 01:38:26 <Fishbowled> is there a method for stopping the 'android sdk' update of an sdk from installing the latest build-tools as a dependancy?
Jul 06 02:03:52 <g00s> anybody look over this already? https://codelabs.developers.google.com/codelabs/android-agera/#0
Jul 06 02:03:56 <g00s> worth it?
Jul 06 02:09:49 <g00s> hm, weird terminology
Jul 06 02:10:29 <CedricBeust> I've yet to see a convincing example where agera code is superior to Rx one
Jul 06 02:10:39 <CedricBeust> And I'm saying this with an open mind, not a contrarian one.
Jul 06 02:11:41 <rosten> g00s: i don't trust the Android SDK, almost everything i do encounters some weird non-intutitive problems that i have to research for hours just to find out that google decided to not implement a method and not mention that in the documentation, i'd rather stick with Rx
Jul 06 02:12:01 <g00s> CedricBeust how close is it to Rx, if you rename some classes and methods is it almost a direct mapping ?
Jul 06 02:12:58 <g00s> are any of the Agera things android lifecycle aware?
Jul 06 02:13:19 <g00s> rosten yeah, rx is almost 'industry standard'
Jul 06 02:14:07 <rosten> g00s: definitely, is that guy, what's his name...David? the only one working on it though?
Jul 06 02:14:23 <nesoi> what's rx?
Jul 06 02:14:30 <rosten> David Karnok
Jul 06 02:14:35 <g00s> David Karnok yeah
Jul 06 02:15:47 <rosten> nesoi: it's a intuitive way to offload work to other threads in this era of multi-cores
Jul 06 02:18:27 <RustyShackleford> I use Fiddler pretty often to intercept network traffic from the emulator
Jul 06 02:18:50 <RustyShackleford> are there any other tools I can use on windows? cross platform would be even better
Jul 06 02:29:18 <nesoi> ah thanks rosten
Jul 06 02:29:32 <rosten> nesoi: no problem
Jul 06 02:31:54 <Lewoco> RustyShackleford, Wireshark
Jul 06 02:32:16 <RustyShackleford> installing that now actually... IIRC its a bit more complicated than fiddler
Jul 06 02:33:03 <bradfordli123> RustyShackleford: Look up `Charles`
Jul 06 02:33:27 <bradfordli123> I think it might get the job done? however you can only get a trial if you dont want to pay for it
Jul 06 02:34:00 <RustyShackleford> yup thats a dealbreaker lol
Jul 06 02:34:00 <James0r> there a directory where i can drag and drop files that'll show up in my AVD's storage. for example to drop an apk i've built in there to install manually on the device?
Jul 06 02:34:08 <RustyShackleford> we use charles at work actually. We have one license
Jul 06 02:34:26 <RustyShackleford> its on a laptop that we all have to share. F that lol
Jul 06 02:45:58 <Fishbowled> is there a limit on what sdk tools that ant will work with?
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