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Jul 27 04:42:02 <g00s> noticing in the Google Fit app, all the places you have to enter a #, like weight - they don't even bother using NumberPicker - just straight up EditText
Jul 27 04:42:26 * g00s will too bwahaha, that was easy
Jul 27 04:51:44 <ron_frown> welp a couple days and I'll be back in charge of my embedded hardware
Jul 27 04:52:02 <g00s> ron_frown the android stuff ? haha
Jul 27 04:52:12 <ron_frown> the question is whether or not to actually go with android this time around
Jul 27 04:52:26 <g00s> its already is though, right ?
Jul 27 04:53:05 <ron_frown> yeah
Jul 27 04:53:08 <ron_frown> but believe me
Jul 27 04:53:22 <ron_frown> I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for android to turn it around
Jul 27 04:53:26 <ron_frown> and really not seeing a ton
Jul 27 04:53:48 <g00s> ron_frown but for an industrial controller, its usage should be pretty basic right ?
Jul 27 04:54:02 <g00s> i don't see how most of the crap we deal with would impact you guys
Jul 27 04:54:08 <ron_frown> critical stuff is offloaded
Jul 27 04:54:11 <g00s> and you have control of the HW
Jul 27 04:54:13 <ron_frown> dude just building software
Jul 27 04:54:22 <ron_frown> the gui toolkit is just assinine
Jul 27 04:54:30 <ron_frown> completely assinine
Jul 27 04:54:49 <ron_frown> lots of frameworks lots of toolkits and they do a much better job of handling diff form factors etc
Jul 27 04:54:50 <g00s> i guess the biggest issue as always would be device drivers
Jul 27 04:55:21 <ron_frown> and java
Jul 27 04:55:35 <ron_frown> I mean I'm betting newer version of java would make things mor epleasant
Jul 27 04:55:37 <ron_frown> but I'm over it
Jul 27 04:55:40 <ron_frown> go or c++
Jul 27 04:55:45 <ron_frown> would be much more idael
Jul 27 04:55:57 <g00s> does go even have any gui toolkits ?
Jul 27 04:56:59 <g00s> c++ will never die :D
Jul 27 04:57:06 <ron_frown> nice
Jul 27 04:57:12 <ron_frown> go has CEF2
Jul 27 04:57:38 <g00s> if you can get it to build i'd just stick with android ...
Jul 27 04:57:56 <g00s> esp since its not doing anything critical  / real time
Jul 27 04:57:57 <ron_frown> not saying I wont use android for other stuff
Jul 27 04:58:09 <ron_frown> but Id really use something that was actually more reasonable
Jul 27 04:58:10 <ron_frown> qt
Jul 27 04:58:12 <ron_frown> or something
Jul 27 04:58:33 <g00s> ron_frown i can't image anyone solving those problems caring Qt vs android gui ...
Jul 27 04:58:45 <g00s> seems like the wrong thing to care about
Jul 27 04:58:46 <ron_frown> we manage the code 100%
Jul 27 04:58:53 <ron_frown> there is no clients building apps
Jul 27 04:59:21 <ron_frown> crap, as I iunderstand its actually feasible now to build a PURELY c++ app
Jul 27 04:59:21 <g00s> plus these days, probably easier to find android devs than Qt devs ha
Jul 27 04:59:24 <ron_frown> minus manifest
Jul 27 04:59:32 <ron_frown> I dont care
Jul 27 04:59:38 <ron_frown> end result is still java / andrdroid
Jul 27 04:59:51 <ron_frown> I'm that doen
Jul 27 04:59:57 <ron_frown> ude what does that say about me
Jul 27 05:00:01 <ron_frown> I'd honeslty rather write c++
Jul 27 05:00:25 <g00s> the only reason i would care would be if the replacement HW was much cheaper
Jul 27 05:00:44 <g00s> like the OS was more efficient, so the controller could be more modest
Jul 27 05:01:04 <ron_frown> so os for os, running on same hardware
Jul 27 05:01:05 <g00s> mayeb pay more $$$ for parts handling higher temps
Jul 27 05:01:10 <ron_frown> win10 iot is slower
Jul 27 05:01:14 <ron_frown> I'd rather run iot
Jul 27 05:01:21 <ron_frown> because I can write apps in sane languages
Jul 27 05:01:43 <ron_frown> with sane toolkits
Jul 27 05:02:03 <ron_frown> yeah you pay for hardened hardware that has guarantees about lifetime
Jul 27 05:02:14 <ron_frown> we went through a couple memory modules in last gen
Jul 27 05:02:54 <ron_frown> I'd consider chrome
Jul 27 05:03:04 <ron_frown> but no idea what the logistics of that are
Jul 27 05:03:19 <ron_frown> is there some public repo you can kick out a build to run on x hardware?
Jul 27 05:04:28 <ron_frown> not androids fault
Jul 27 05:04:42 <ron_frown> but old boss insistend on taking a webapp designed to run on desktop
Jul 27 05:04:47 <ron_frown> and plop that in embedded webview
Jul 27 05:04:51 <ron_frown> man what a nightmare
Jul 27 05:09:30 <ron_frown> chrome would be easy enough to port to my hardware
Jul 27 05:09:45 <ron_frown> but dont know if html+js is going to be better performing than android =)
Jul 27 05:10:09 <g00s> ron_frown i've been using VS Code and love it :D
Jul 27 05:10:19 <ron_frown> vscode is pretty damn good
Jul 27 05:10:22 <ron_frown> even if you did nothing c#
Jul 27 05:10:28 <ron_frown> and just did web editing etc
Jul 27 05:26:21 <lernaean-hydra> anybody active?
Jul 27 05:27:06 <bankai_> i went for a run yesterday, does that count?
Jul 27 05:28:16 <mark4> how do you cancel a thread in android?  pthread_cancel is not implemented
Jul 27 05:28:35 <mark4> do i need to cancel it?
Jul 27 05:29:02 <mark4> the thread is in a library. if JNI_OnUnload is called will the thread be killed already?
Jul 27 05:35:53 <lernaean-hydra> Hey guys, new here, but familiar with custom ROM aspects. Trying to track down what might be making music players skip. The problem is, logcats don't seem to be much help, because it won't skip when it is plugged in, or when there is any other interaction with the device.
Jul 27 05:36:43 <lernaean-hydra> When I'm trying to listen to music at work, I just wake the device, then put it back to sleep whenever it starts it, and that will usually stop it for 10-15 minutes
Jul 27 05:37:40 <lernaean-hydra> I tried disabling deep sleep, and bumping up minimum cpu speeds, to see if that would help, but it had no effect, leading me to think that it is app related, not system/rom
Jul 27 05:39:03 <g00s> mark4 lol, bionic ftl
Jul 27 05:45:23 <mark4> yup
Jul 27 05:45:50 <mark4> they are never going to implement pthread_cancel
Jul 27 05:47:43 <mark4> so if i send a signal and a thread has initialized a signal handler for it that handler runs in the same thread right?
Jul 27 05:47:50 <mark4> interrupts that thread yes?
Jul 27 06:31:55 <degasus> Hi, where should I report a cmake issue in the last android studio 2.2 pre6 build? The provided android toolchain has CMAKE_FIND_ROOT_PATH_MODE_* set to BOTH, so it will also look on the host for all kind of librarys...
Jul 27 06:59:18 <yoavst> I'm using assembleAndroidTest from command line to create the tests apk. However I want only 1 test to be in that apk. How do I exclude the other tests?
Jul 27 07:38:10 <impulse> how can i loop through all the extradata in an intent?
Jul 27 07:41:49 <Ashiren> impulse: Bundle has keySet()
Jul 27 07:42:12 <impulse> thanks i'll look that up
Jul 27 07:47:35 <bolovanos> hithere
Jul 27 07:49:55 <impulse> hey
Jul 27 07:50:03 <impulse> what do i need to import to use "Set"?
Jul 27 07:50:25 <Ashiren> umm
Jul 27 07:50:39 <Ashiren> the Set :o
Jul 27 07:50:47 <impulse> it was java.util.Set
Jul 27 07:50:55 <Ashiren> eeyup
Jul 27 07:51:03 <impulse> wish there was a way to find these things
Jul 27 07:51:51 <bolovanos> bpe, hi r u adq? :)
Jul 27 07:57:12 <Mavrik> impulse, like using a good IDE, perhaps even named "Android" studio? :P
Jul 27 07:57:36 <impulse> no thanks
Jul 27 08:00:14 <impulse> do i need root to pull my images through adb?
Jul 27 08:02:15 <Ashiren> you can pull files from storage and other accesible locations
Jul 27 08:03:27 <impulse> what about pictures in internal memory? this phone doesn't have a card slot
Jul 27 08:04:22 <impulse> i'm getting this from my intent: content://media/external/images/media/3075
Jul 27 08:04:30 <impulse> but i can't find anything like that in the adb shell
Jul 27 08:10:11 <pduin> Because that's not a file URL
Jul 27 08:14:04 <impulse> pduin: couldn't even find . -name images
Jul 27 08:15:48 <pduin> Again, because that's not a file URL
Jul 27 08:16:08 <pduin> Not sure if you can query the MediaStore for a file URL
Jul 27 08:16:13 <pduin> in the shell
Jul 27 08:17:01 <bolovanos> can you please help me with understanding of this (I am not native speaker...)"We collect more limited information than you have access to as the app owner." - Do they collect something I am unable to see?
Jul 27 08:17:18 <impulse> pduin: is the mediastore a database?
Jul 27 08:17:40 <pduin> Something like that, yeah
Jul 27 08:18:31 <impulse> so even if i rooted my phone, i wouldn't see the pictures on the filesystem?
Jul 27 08:18:51 <pduin> You can
Jul 27 08:18:53 <impulse> pictures are stored in a SQLite database?
Jul 27 08:19:00 <impulse> ok so i need to root?
Jul 27 08:19:07 <impulse> that's why i can't see any images folder?
Jul 27 08:19:12 <pduin> No, references to the pictures are stored in the database
Jul 27 08:19:20 <impulse> i don't care about references
Jul 27 08:19:27 <impulse> i want to pull the file through adb
Jul 27 08:19:43 <pduin> Check /proc/mounts
Jul 27 08:19:59 <pduin> Your internal phone storage should be listed in there somewhere
Jul 27 08:20:21 <impulse> /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata that looks promising
Jul 27 08:21:48 <impulse> combined with run-as
Jul 27 08:21:50 <impulse> should work?
Jul 27 08:24:20 <bolovanos> where can I find #android-dev logs?
Jul 27 08:26:39 <pduin> impulse: not sure, mount points seem to vary from device to device. You can try a few points, or you can try querying the mediastore from within an app to get the file path
Jul 27 08:27:03 <impulse> ok thanks
Jul 27 09:05:31 <Thorbear> bolovanos: This is IRC, unless some of the participants are logging, there are no logs.
Jul 27 09:06:47 <bolovanos> Thorbear, yes I am asking for logs of some always present bot - if there is any
Jul 27 09:16:33 <AlexandruM> Hi guys, I have a weird issue ..
Jul 27 09:16:53 <AlexandruM> I need to play a video from a URL, video is an mp4
Jul 27 09:17:20 <AlexandruM> this video works : http://www.sample-videos.com/video/mp4/240/big_buck_bunny_240p_1mb.mp4
Jul 27 09:17:40 <AlexandruM> this one https://crm.mifx.com/video/Kesuksesan%20Personal%20Melalui%20Networking%201.mp4 does not
Jul 27 09:18:00 <AlexandruM> No Activity found to handle Intent { act=android.intent.action.VIEW dat=https://crm.mifx.com/... typ=video/mp4 }
Jul 27 09:18:15 <AlexandruM> any pointers? can it be related to the spaces in the url ?
Jul 27 09:27:47 <iprime> AlexandruM, what's your code for building the intent?
Jul 27 09:33:05 <AlexandruM> String mp4File = "https://crm.mifx.com/video/Kesuksesan%20Personal%20Melalui%20Networking%201.mp4";                 Uri uri = getUriFromUrl(mp4File);                 Intent intent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_VIEW);                 intent.setDataAndType(uri, "video/mp4");                 startActivity(intent);
Jul 27 09:44:04 <statusfailed> I'd like to make an android library for an internal API, but I want to have automated build/CI stuff - what do people use for building android libraries from the command line?
Jul 27 10:02:29 <markyosullivan> How would I go about setting up a timeout method which waits x seconds before stopping the process?
Jul 27 10:03:31 <markyosullivan> For example, I have a connect button which I use to start the search for a specific BLE device. When the search is started, a loading indicator is shown and the screen is darkened. How would I go about returning to the screen after say 10 seconds of waiting for a connection?
Jul 27 10:11:27 <yoavst> Is there a way to uninstall an app using UIAutomator? (without going to settings - may have different layout and text each device)
Jul 27 11:10:39 <loredan13> Hello! I've got a bug where RecyclerView jumps up a little when switching page in a child ViewPager. scrollToPosition does the same exact jump
Jul 27 11:13:31 <markyosullivan> nevermind
Jul 27 11:13:34 <markyosullivan> found how to do it
Jul 27 11:13:53 <markyosullivan> Used a CountDownTimer
Jul 27 11:15:06 <loredan13> It happens only with the last position in the list
Jul 27 11:49:26 <loredan13> As far as I can tell it has something to do with measuring item views
Jul 27 12:02:44 <purplex88> Why don't we find fragment by its own ID rather than use its container which could contain multiple fragments?
Jul 27 12:12:58 <thornekey> whats the equivilant of FragmentManager for an activity
Jul 27 12:16:23 <purplex88> ActivityManager?
Jul 27 13:01:47 <BratwurstMitSenf> hello
Jul 27 13:11:16 <BratwurstMitSenf> we currently have a problem and i've been trying to find a solution for hours. the management of our company decided to move all development environments to windows10 hyper-v vm's. the only problem being we can't set up any local android vm's for development since we can't get inside the bios of the hyper-v guests to enable intel virtualization technology... have any of you been able to get
Jul 27 13:11:22 <BratwurstMitSenf> an AVD working inside a win10 hyper-v vm? and if yes, how?
Jul 27 13:12:43 <BratwurstMitSenf> i have to add that the status "windows 10 hyper-v vm" is non negotiable... yes i am already looking for a new job, but in the meantime it would be awesome if we could get this working
Jul 27 13:16:00 <alexfu> BratwurstMitSenf: sorry, not familiar w/ hyper-v
Jul 27 13:17:11 <markyosullivan> How does the open alpha testing work?
Jul 27 13:37:56 <alexfu> markyosullivan: you upload an alpha version of your app and you can invite users via email to download that app
Jul 27 13:38:30 <loredan13> Does anybody know why RecyclerView doesn't scroll to the last item in the list?
Jul 27 13:38:44 <loredan13> With scrollToPosition()
Jul 27 13:39:38 <j4f-shredder> Does anyone have a Firebase-UI sample to implement?....the sample they provide is not clear at all
Jul 27 13:39:58 <j4f-shredder> I need to log people with email/facebook
Jul 27 13:40:06 <j4f-shredder> custom email, not only gmail
Jul 27 13:41:47 <alexfu> loredan13: which layout manager are you using? scrollToPosition delegates to scrollToPosition of the layout manager
Jul 27 13:43:17 <loredan13> alexfu: LinearLayoutManager, vertical
Jul 27 13:43:28 <aukeroorda> Hey. I am trying to make an app from an old school project, and have a question about what should and should not be a fragment. This is the 'app' we created a while back. http://prntscr.com/by6cn5 Should I make the group of four buttons a single fragment, or should I create a fragment for each button?
Jul 27 13:43:57 <aukeroorda> If you want, you can see the ápp' here: http://app.expeditie-malawi.nl/wminfo.html, just resize your window and refresh : )
Jul 27 13:43:58 <alexfu> loredan13: how far is it scrolling?
Jul 27 13:45:42 <loredan13> alexfu: It shows the last item partially. It's not exactly the problem. The problem is that each item in the list has a ViewPager inside, and when I switch pages on the last item, RecyclerView jumps up
Jul 27 13:46:29 <loredan13> alexfu: scrollToPosition doesn't get called, but when I tested, scrolling to last position makes it stop at exact same place
Jul 27 13:47:30 <alexfu> loredan13: which probably has a different height and so the recyclerview row resizes.. i would say that's expected
Jul 27 13:48:17 <alexfu> loredan13: sorry, first bit got chopped off... "you switch pages which probably has a..."
Jul 27 13:48:34 <loredan13> alexfu: item consists of a ViewPager, LinearLayout with couple TextViews inside, couple more TextViews and another LinearLayout with an ImageButton
Jul 27 13:49:19 <loredan13> alexfu: Nope, pages are simple ImageViews with centerCrop. They are the same size
Jul 27 13:50:01 <alexfu> also, your view heirarchy sounds unnecessarily complex
Jul 27 13:50:08 <loredan13> alexfu: And when it jumps up, it always leaves under ViewPager what looks like enough space for an ImageButton
Jul 27 13:50:25 <loredan13> alexfu: Should I use RelativeLayout?
Jul 27 13:51:11 <alexfu> loredan13: why do you have view pagers as recycler view rows in the first place?
Jul 27 13:52:14 <loredan13> alexfu: they serve as image galleries for each item
Jul 27 13:53:28 <alexfu> loredan13: how do you have the sizes of the image views defined? or rather, how is the size of the view pagers defined? fixed size?
Jul 27 13:58:53 <loredan13> alexfu: ViewPager has fixed height of 0.6 display width
Jul 27 13:59:29 <loredan13> alexfu: defined in onMeasure of ViewPager
Jul 27 14:00:29 <alexfu> loredan13: when you say, "RecyclerView jumps up", you mean, it scrolls up and cuts off the bottom content? are you still able to scroll to the bottom when it does that?
Jul 27 14:01:16 <VerbalKint> Any of you guys know of a good website that has good royalty free sound effects?
Jul 27 14:05:43 <loredan13> alexfu: Yes
Jul 27 14:07:42 <alexfu> loredan13: what does the child views in your view pager look like?
Jul 27 14:08:01 <loredan13> alexfu: ImageView
Jul 27 14:08:12 <alexfu> nothing else?
Jul 27 14:10:15 <loredan13> alexfu: No, new ImageView(), setImageResource, setScaleType
Jul 27 14:10:51 <alexfu> loredan13: what does the onMeasure of your ViewPager look like?
Jul 27 14:12:26 <loredan13> alexfu: http://pastebin.com/aEvq0WcF
Jul 27 14:12:56 <loredan13> alexfu: and, while we're at it, the list item: http://pastebin.com/bHUXtRuS
Jul 27 14:15:17 <alexfu> loredan13: something is probably changing the height. i would try making all other views (expect your pager) in your list item to display none and see if it can be reproduced.
Jul 27 14:17:19 <sdousley> I'm presuming that it's good practice to update the targetSdkVersion and compileSdkVersion in build.gradle to the latest stable version of android?
Jul 27 14:17:31 <sdousley> At present, I'll be honest, and admit that I've just left both values at 21 because I know that works.
Jul 27 14:17:49 <loredan13> alexfu: let me try that
Jul 27 14:18:28 <Fyber> Does anyone know an open source app that has material design cards in it?
Jul 27 14:21:02 <alexfu> Fyber: Google I/O app?
Jul 27 14:21:51 <loredan13> alexfu: making everything but ViewPager gone did not help
Jul 27 14:23:23 <alexfu> loredan13: ok, so in your onMeasure of your viewpager, i would make the height a fixed value and dont call super.onMeasure, instead call setMeasuredDimension
Jul 27 14:23:45 <alexfu> and see if the problem can be reproduced then
Jul 27 14:24:39 <loredan13> alexfu: making ViewPager gone with everything else visible did not help either, scroll to last position does not scroll to the bottom
Jul 27 14:25:04 <alexfu> loredan13: something like.... int width = MeasureSpec.getSize(widthMeasureSpec); int height = 200; setMeasureDimension(width, height)
Jul 27 14:26:50 <loredan13> alexfu: setMeasuredDimension(MeasureSpec.getSize(widthMeasureSpec), MeasureSpec.getSize(heightMeasureSpec));
Jul 27 14:27:09 <loredan13> alexfu: I'm using fixed height spec
Jul 27 14:27:54 <loredan13> alexfu: Still jumps up
Jul 27 14:37:32 <Fyber> alexfu: Thanks, IRC didn't notify me until now for some reason.
Jul 27 14:37:45 <Fyber> Is butterknife something I should be using for writing apps?
Jul 27 14:38:01 <VerbalKint> Oh my flipping Jehovah, finding royalty free sound effects without attribution is so hard X_X
Jul 27 14:38:08 <Fyber> I see it in a few open source projects, just wanted to ask for this channel's opinion
Jul 27 14:38:50 <Fyber> VerbalKint: You have to pay for them :)
Jul 27 14:39:26 <VerbalKint> I don't want to make an attribution popup X_X
Jul 27 14:39:36 <VerbalKint> And most people won't give a damn about it
Jul 27 14:39:44 <Fyber> Then pay for royalty/attribution free
Jul 27 14:39:50 <VerbalKint> Fyber: hell no
Jul 27 14:39:53 <Fyber> If you don't care then don't use it
Jul 27 14:39:58 <Fyber> or hide it somewhere
Jul 27 14:40:02 <Fyber> bottom of settings mabye
Jul 27 14:40:50 <loredan13> Fyber: I'm using it pretty much everywhere
Jul 27 14:41:19 <loredan13> Fyber: Except when it's just a couple of items in layout
Jul 27 14:42:32 <Fyber> Any other ubiquitous things I can include to make life easier?
Jul 27 14:44:02 <loredan13> Fyber: Not really. ActiveAndroid makes it sort of easier to work with sqlite database, but it lowers performance somewhat
Jul 27 14:44:20 <loredan13> Fyber: Not much, as far as I know
Jul 27 14:44:41 <Fyber> ok, I had never heard of butterknife so I was wondering if there was other stuff I was missing
Jul 27 14:44:42 <alexfu> loredan13: replace MeasureSpec.getSize(heightMeasureSpec) with a fixed value
Jul 27 14:45:13 <Fyber> https://developer.android.com/design/material/images/card_travel.png < I'm trying to make something that looks like this, but I can't get my cards to look like that.
Jul 27 14:45:29 <Fyber> In the documentation it says I need to set properties, but I'm not sure where those go
Jul 27 14:45:36 <g1bbs_> Fyber: pretty much everything else from Square :P
Jul 27 14:45:50 <Fyber> g1bbs_: done :)
Jul 27 14:45:55 <loredan13> g1bbs_: right
Jul 27 14:46:02 <loredan13> Fyber: Retrofit
Jul 27 14:46:36 <Fyber> That's the first thing I used, since I built the login screen before the rest of the app.
Jul 27 14:47:15 <loredan13> alexfu: Set to 200, nothing changed
Jul 27 14:47:20 <g1bbs_> Fyber: just, for the love of God, don't use AndroidAnnotations
Jul 27 14:47:39 <loredan13> g1bbs_: what's that?
Jul 27 14:47:48 <Fyber> That actually looks pretty good, why not?
Jul 27 14:48:55 <g1bbs_> Fyber: it's great until 1) you have a new dev come on and they have to learn a whole new non-Android way to do things and 2) you get any error whatsoever so your intermediate files don't generate and you get to track through hundreds of lines of those errors before actually seing the real error
Jul 27 14:49:18 <g1bbs_> #2 being much worse
Jul 27 14:49:23 <loredan13> ouch
Jul 27 14:49:28 <Fyber> fair enough
Jul 27 14:59:02 <zoraj_> hi guys
Jul 27 14:59:17 <loredan13> zoraj_: hey
Jul 27 14:59:26 <zoraj_> how you doing ?
Jul 27 15:00:10 <Fyber> How do I add something to a cardview?
Jul 27 15:00:38 <Fyber> I tried adding a textview to it and aligning it to parent but it disappears.
Jul 27 15:01:13 <zoraj_> I'd like to put the three dot for each listview item
Jul 27 15:01:23 <zoraj_> how can I do that ? any path ?
Jul 27 15:02:24 <loredan13> zoraj_: In Android Studio you can create the drawable with File -> New... -> Vector Asset, there is a list of predefined ones
Jul 27 15:02:48 <loredan13> And then just add a ImageView with this drawable where you want
Jul 27 15:03:33 <zoraj_> well, let me see that thanks
Jul 27 15:06:46 <loredan13> alexfu: so, any other ideas?
Jul 27 15:10:13 <loredan13> alexfu: I am using 23.4.0, if that can be the reason
Jul 27 15:12:31 <loredan13> alexfu: com.android.support:recyclerview-v7:23.4.0
Jul 27 15:22:06 <VerbalKint> Need a nice "positive" sound effect. Something Pavlovian that will trigger dopamine in their brains and rewire them in such a way that they'll want to waste more time on my app.
Jul 27 15:25:15 <VerbalKint> I feel evil.
Jul 27 15:31:01 <raoul11> hmm, is it possible to shuffle two diff' arrays [1,2,3] [x,y,z] with the same seed?
Jul 27 15:37:15 <pfn> VerbalKint, give away money
Jul 27 15:40:12 <pfn> [info] dex method count: 72413
Jul 27 15:40:15 <pfn> huh? how is that possible...
Jul 27 15:40:38 <pfn> my counter must be busted or something
Jul 27 15:40:58 <pfn> oh, nevermind, I forgot, I aggregate my multidex counter
Jul 27 15:41:59 <VerbalKint> pfn: what? Hell no
Jul 27 15:42:29 <wyoung> VerbalKint: yay
Jul 27 15:43:00 <pfn> VerbalKint, then a sound effect alone isn't going to get you that
Jul 27 15:44:04 <VerbalKint> pfn: get me what? Be considered evil?
Jul 27 15:44:25 <pfn> your pavlovian effect
Jul 27 15:44:51 <VerbalKint> pfn: maybe, maybe no
Jul 27 15:45:10 <VerbalKint> But it adds to the projection of quality surely
Jul 27 16:11:14 <truckcrash> just rip the coin sound from super mario bros
Jul 27 16:11:26 <truckcrash> that is a satisfying ding
Jul 27 16:17:42 <truckcrash> Is it just me, or has this channel been quieter the last few days?
Jul 27 16:17:56 <truckcrash> g00s is noticeably absent
Jul 27 16:18:35 <purplex88> what is this "addTextChangedListener (TextWatcher watcher)" watcher?
Jul 27 16:18:52 <purplex88> android is complicated that i thought
Jul 27 16:18:55 <purplex88> than*
Jul 27 16:20:54 * pfn shrugs
Jul 27 16:34:04 <j4f-shredder> Hey, I need serious help....does anyone know if I have to copy all the files in there to make it work?
Jul 27 16:34:07 <thornekey> am using Facebook graph and need to get a users first name. I can get their full name but not just their first name for some reason... here is what im doing http://hastebin.com/oyajidatas.coffee anyone know whats wrong
Jul 27 16:34:20 <j4f-shredder> Hey, I need serious help....does anyone know if I have to copy all the files in there to make it work? https://github.com/firebase/FirebaseUI-Android/blob/master/auth/README.md#configuration
Jul 27 16:34:29 <j4f-shredder> it seems a mega complicated structure
Jul 27 16:34:43 <thornekey> j4f-shredder, just use gradle?
Jul 27 16:35:00 <thornekey> didnt even click ur link, sorry, not sure what ur talking about :/
Jul 27 16:35:03 <j4f-shredder> the project by itself works fine on genymotion
Jul 27 16:35:11 <thornekey> oh hmm
Jul 27 16:35:18 <j4f-shredder> but when I try to integrate it to my project
Jul 27 16:35:23 <j4f-shredder> I don't know how to do it easily
Jul 27 16:36:19 <s73v3r> it says it exactly
Jul 27 16:36:29 <s73v3r> you add the dependency using gradle
Jul 27 16:36:35 <j4f-shredder> I did
Jul 27 16:36:44 <s73v3r> ok. so what’s your problem?
Jul 27 16:36:51 <j4f-shredder> my main question
Jul 27 16:36:51 <j4f-shredder> is
Jul 27 16:37:11 <s73v3r> what is the actual issue you’re seeing? What is the error message you’re getting?
Jul 27 16:37:17 <j4f-shredder> do I have to copy all those files? like for example, take a look at the AuthUI class
Jul 27 16:37:30 <j4f-shredder> if I include the dependency
Jul 27 16:37:30 <s73v3r> no, that’s what gradle is for
Jul 27 16:37:36 <j4f-shredder> it's supposed to let me use
Jul 27 16:37:41 <j4f-shredder> that class on my code?
Jul 27 16:37:50 <thornekey> have u synced gradle
Jul 27 16:37:53 <s73v3r> yes! that’s the entire point of including the library in that way
Jul 27 16:38:24 <j4f-shredder> ok, I will try again my friend, thank you very much and sorry for the stupid question
Jul 27 16:39:00 <thornekey> no question is stupid if its a real question; imo
Jul 27 16:39:05 <parco> hi guys, i'd like to use an IntentService for it's higher priority with lifecycle, but there's no way for me to interrupt the background task? Do I need to use a regular Service then?
Jul 27 16:39:12 <j4f-shredder> thanks, I'm on primary school and I don't know any programming trying to get started
Jul 27 16:39:27 <thornekey> maybe watch some tutes
Jul 27 16:39:47 <j4f-shredder> what's the best android resource? java seems ultra complicated
Jul 27 16:40:01 <thornekey> probably not the best person to ask lol
Jul 27 16:40:02 <s73v3r> java
Jul 27 16:40:07 <j4f-shredder> everything with rare class names, using 10 classes for everything
Jul 27 16:40:19 <s73v3r> you don’t have to do that
Jul 27 16:40:42 <j4f-shredder> one more question
Jul 27 16:40:59 <j4f-shredder> the styles and the strings xml in that sample project
Jul 27 16:41:08 <j4f-shredder> will be available too if I include them with graddle?
Jul 27 16:41:10 <s73v3r> although you should split things up into multiple classes, rather than putting them all into big huge ones
Jul 27 16:41:25 <s73v3r> if they’re part of the library, yes
Jul 27 16:41:36 <j4f-shredder> perfect
Jul 27 16:42:04 <thornekey> anyone used facebook graph api stuff?
Jul 27 16:42:05 <j4f-shredder> https://github.com/firebase/FirebaseUI-Android/tree/master/auth/src/main/res
Jul 27 16:42:15 <j4f-shredder> that folder
Jul 27 16:46:00 <xan_IT> hi, need a suggestion. what is best way to integrate json services?
Jul 27 16:46:46 <xan_IT> actually use urlconnection with Gson. i read some high level library but i dont know if they are stable and durable
Jul 27 16:47:48 <s73v3r> they’re fine
Jul 27 16:48:35 <xan_IT> which are most used?
Jul 27 16:48:46 <s73v3r> those are fine. retrofit is used a good amount
Jul 27 16:49:00 <s73v3r> if you already have something working, though, stick with it unless there’s a problem
Jul 27 16:50:22 <xan_IT> yes, the question is for new project
Jul 27 16:51:01 <s73v3r> the answer is both are fine
Jul 27 16:51:25 <xan_IT> volley is abbandoned, true?
Jul 27 16:51:30 <thornekey> what does setChoiceMode do for listviews?
Jul 27 16:51:42 <s73v3r> i wouldn’t use volley, no
Jul 27 16:52:28 <xan_IT> why?
Jul 27 16:52:36 <s73v3r> cause it’s a pain in the aass
Jul 27 16:52:37 <s73v3r> ass
Jul 27 16:52:54 <xan_IT> i read about volley, retrofit and robospice
Jul 27 16:53:12 <s73v3r> never heard of robospice
Jul 27 16:53:28 <s73v3r> but play around with the ones you’re thinking of, and see which one you like more
Jul 27 16:53:46 <xan_IT> https://github.com/stephanenicolas/robospice
Jul 27 16:54:10 <xan_IT> yes, i just ask opinion
Jul 27 16:54:42 <loredan13> didn't like volley, retrofit is much nicer
Jul 27 16:54:58 <Fyber> I have a list of ~1000 items that I need users to select one of, is there a built in library that enables that?
Jul 27 16:55:05 <Fyber> SInce there's so many I'll need search.
Jul 27 16:55:22 <s73v3r> you’ll probably be using a listview/recyclerview to display them
Jul 27 16:55:30 <s73v3r> and a searchview to enable filtering
Jul 27 16:55:48 <Fyber> So I start a new activity that has this?
Jul 27 16:56:08 <s73v3r> that’s unrelated to the question
Jul 27 16:56:59 <Fyber> I have a login screen and I need to have the user select an endpoint. I just put a button there that starts a new intent and somehow returns what the user picked?
Jul 27 16:57:19 <s73v3r> how you work it into your app is up to you
Jul 27 16:57:41 <Fyber> I'm asking if there's a best practice way
Jul 27 16:58:03 <s73v3r> there’s not, although I would suggest splitting it up
Jul 27 17:00:47 <Fyber> Another related question: I have a massive (1MB) json file that has this list and other relevant data. If I want to use retrofit to parse that It'll make hundreds of objects...
Jul 27 17:00:55 <Fyber> will that significantly slow things down?
Jul 27 17:02:44 <pfn> gson is slow at parsing 1mb
Jul 27 17:06:18 <razor1101> Why gson? Doesn't android have a built-in parser for that?
Jul 27 17:07:14 <loredan13> Fyber: depends on how you do it. As far as I remember gson has 3 types of parsing
Jul 27 17:07:44 <pfn> no, it doesn't
Jul 27 17:07:50 <pfn> not a usable parser
Jul 27 17:08:14 <Fyber> I'm not using gson directly, I'm using it through retrofir
Jul 27 17:08:26 <Fyber> so even if it did I don't think I could choose what parse method
Jul 27 17:08:49 <loredan13> Fyber: yes, faster method requires custom code
Jul 27 17:09:18 <Fyber> It doesn't need to be fast, it only happens the first time the user opens the app
Jul 27 17:09:24 <Fyber> It just needs to not die on older phones
Jul 27 17:10:19 <pfn> the memory issue isn't a problem
Jul 27 17:11:28 <xan_IT> s73v3r loredan13 about retrofit: some services use non json data, like specific header. can i do this to retrofit request?
Jul 27 17:11:38 <thornekey> am using Facebook graph and need to get a users first name. I can get their full name but not just their first name for some reason... here is what im doing http://hastebin.com/oyajidatas.coffee anyone know whats wrong
Jul 27 17:13:01 <alexfu> xan_IT: headers has nothing to do with body parsing
Jul 27 17:13:23 <xan_IT> yes, but i can access to retrofit request? or is wrapped?
Jul 27 17:14:03 <Fyber> ok thank you everyone, I will try it the regular way
Jul 27 17:14:26 <alexfu> xan_IT: you can access response headers with retrofit2, yes
Jul 27 17:15:31 <alexfu> xan_IT: you just have to wrap your return in a Response object.. i.e. Response<MyModel>
Jul 27 17:15:41 <xan_IT> alexfu i need to put session in header and read some other header. i can do this with retrofit?
Jul 27 17:16:32 <alexfu> xan_IT: Retofit uses OkHttp and you can configure OkHttp to do what you need via interceptors
Jul 27 17:17:07 <xan_IT> ok perfect. my fear is all http layer are wrapped and not accessible
Jul 27 17:17:56 <thornekey> how do i make a horizontal list view?
Jul 27 17:18:17 <thornekey> ive looked at TwoWayView but it seems the project might have stopped
Jul 27 17:19:11 <alexfu> thornekey: you could use RecyclerView
Jul 27 17:19:33 <thornekey> Hmm, would i have to change much from what i have ?
Jul 27 17:19:43 <pfn> no
Jul 27 17:20:24 <thornekey> has anyone seen the new facebook messenger where it has the sideways scrollable thing that has ur supposedly favorite people to msg.. thats what im tryna achieve
Jul 27 17:21:08 <thornekey> pfn, reason i ask is because i made this adapter (which i found quite hard (newb)) that fills the list
Jul 27 17:21:55 <pfn> changing the adapter isn't very hard
Jul 27 17:21:56 <casadogg> use a recyclerview with horizontal linearlayoutmanager
Jul 27 17:22:25 <thornekey> would anyone mind walking me through it :)
Jul 27 17:22:56 <alexfu> thornekey: with recyclerview, you change the layout manager to change the way items are laid out
Jul 27 17:23:03 <thornekey> i see
Jul 27 17:23:06 <thornekey> Hmm
Jul 27 17:23:14 <alexfu> adapter only supplies the view for the data
Jul 27 17:24:00 <alexfu> layout manager determines how each row is laid out
Jul 27 17:24:11 <thornekey> ohk
Jul 27 17:24:43 <thornekey> so say i had only a few items in it that didnt make it need to be scrolled could i make those center in the view itself with this
Jul 27 17:25:30 * Napalm sighs
Jul 27 17:26:14 <s73v3r> you could, but it wouldn’t be worth the effort
Jul 27 17:26:20 <thornekey> ahk
Jul 27 17:33:19 <alexfu> thornekey: if you need this horizontal list to be able to page throught items, you might be better off with a ViewPager
Jul 27 17:33:43 <s73v3r> that’s only if they want to change views
Jul 27 17:33:53 <s73v3r> if it’s a list, then a recyclerview would be better
Jul 27 17:41:47 <Fyber> How do I manage cookies in Android?
Jul 27 17:41:53 <Fyber> Here's my current solution http://hastebin.com/pisozasego.axapta
Jul 27 17:42:00 <Fyber> I can't figure out why it's broke
Jul 27 17:42:28 <Fyber> Retrofit2/OkHttp3
Jul 27 17:43:16 <alexfu> Fyber: cookies are usually set  by the server
Jul 27 17:43:33 <Fyber> Yup, I need to store them and send them back later.
Jul 27 17:44:31 <alexfu> what's wrong with it?
Jul 27 17:44:51 <Fyber> It sends the request but it doesn't send the cookies with it
Jul 27 17:45:20 <Fyber> So either a) it can't store it and/or b)  it can't retrieve it
Jul 27 17:46:14 <alexfu> Fyber: https://github.com/square/okhttp/blob/f91f97795b6fc3ccfec3d2ec4ea46abe733012df/okhttp-tests/src/test/java/okhttp3/CookiesTest.java
Jul 27 17:47:21 <thepoosh> ph hi there
Jul 27 17:47:32 <Fyber> Yeah, I think I'm setting them correctly, somewhere along the line it gets lost
Jul 27 17:47:38 <Fyber> Returns or stores no cookies
Jul 27 17:47:49 <Fyber> even though charles says it is getting cookies
Jul 27 17:53:52 <alexfu> Fyber: have you actually checked the shared prefs file to see if it's in there?
Jul 27 17:54:09 <Fyber> No idea how to check
Jul 27 17:54:22 <thepoosh> Fyber: adb shell
Jul 27 17:54:32 <thepoosh> eun-as YOUR.PACKAGE.NAME
Jul 27 17:54:37 <thepoosh> run-as YOUR.PACKAGE.NAME
Jul 27 17:54:49 <thepoosh> more sharedprefs.xml
Jul 27 17:55:27 <Fyber> more: sharedprefs.xml: No such file or directory
Jul 27 17:55:45 <alexfu> debugging 101.. adb shell into a rooted device OR an emulator and cd to /data/data/com.yourpackage
Jul 27 17:56:13 <alexfu> then ls and you'll find the shared prefs dir/file
Jul 27 17:56:42 <Fyber> it's not in there
Jul 27 17:56:44 <thepoosh> Fyber: ls -l
Jul 27 17:56:46 <Fyber> no cookies
Jul 27 17:56:52 <Fyber> yeah I figured it out :) thanks
Jul 27 17:57:14 <Fyber> (not the cookies thing, the sharedprefs thing)
Jul 27 17:57:32 <Fyber> I didn't need a rooted device, it let me cd into it
Jul 27 17:58:04 <Fyber> So the issue lies with how cookies are being stored
Jul 27 17:58:37 <Fyber> That's the one that I wrote, figures.
Jul 27 17:58:40 <alexfu> Fyber: uh.. you're not committing/applying the shared prefs changes
Jul 27 17:58:54 <Fyber> see, I knew it'd be something stupid
Jul 27 18:04:24 <eemgr> has anyone ever done clustering with google maps? I see there are google-maps-utils that have clustering, but we're looking to cluster at specific distances, and I'm not sure that functionality is readily available.
Jul 27 18:18:46 <mark4> having to almost totally rewrite code thats been working perfectly for almost 2 years due to google pulling a rug out from under me is a major pita but therese an up side
Jul 27 18:18:55 <mark4> my library is about 20k smaller now
Jul 27 18:19:06 <mark4> tho not yet in a working state
Jul 27 18:19:34 <mark4> the down side is that it is probably going to run significantly slower than it did before.
Jul 27 18:21:41 <j4f-shredder> I need help please, I included a dependency on gradle
Jul 27 18:21:42 <j4f-shredder> https://github.com/firebase/FirebaseUI-Android/tree/master/auth
Jul 27 18:21:57 <j4f-shredder> but the constants that uses there in the example
Jul 27 18:22:01 <j4f-shredder> are not defined
Jul 27 18:22:06 <j4f-shredder> when I sync the project
Jul 27 18:22:17 <j4f-shredder> how can I retrieve those constants
Jul 27 18:22:29 <j4f-shredder>  RC_SIGN_IN
Jul 27 18:22:32 <s73v3r> what constants?
Jul 27 18:22:34 <j4f-shredder> in the readme they use
Jul 27 18:22:41 <s73v3r> did you import the class?
Jul 27 18:22:43 <j4f-shredder> that constant for onActivity result
Jul 27 18:23:09 <j4f-shredder> I imported what android studio told me with alt+enter
Jul 27 18:23:27 <s73v3r> did you look at the code to make sure that constant was still there?
Jul 27 18:23:30 <j4f-shredder> and in that readme it doesn't mention any import that should be made
Jul 27 18:23:42 <j4f-shredder> I will check taht
Jul 27 18:23:42 <s73v3r> the readme isn’t going to mention it because it’s implied
Jul 27 18:23:49 <s73v3r> you have to import a class if you’re going to use it
Jul 27 18:24:44 <azv4> "Error while waiting for device: abd connection not available, or was terminated."  I can build my (newly migrated to Gradle) project without errors, but when I try to run it in an EMU I get this message, I've tried many things from google nothing working so far
Jul 27 18:24:54 <azv4> anyone an expert at troubleshooting this error?
Jul 27 18:27:19 <j4f-shredder> the guy defines it in a sample consumer project of that other auth service
Jul 27 18:27:19 <j4f-shredder>  private static final int RC_SIGN_IN = 100;
Jul 27 18:27:25 <s73v3r> j4f-shredder: i looked at the example .They’re doing that in StartActivityForResult
Jul 27 18:27:33 <s73v3r> yes. You have to define that constant in your code
Jul 27 18:27:41 <s73v3r> https://developer.android.com/training/basics/intents/result.html
Jul 27 18:27:52 <j4f-shredder> perfect, that is quite lame right?...cause it should be braught by the gradle
Jul 27 18:28:00 <s73v3r> no, it’s not lame
Jul 27 18:28:05 <j4f-shredder> they don't even mention it on the readme
Jul 27 18:28:08 <s73v3r> it’s how you use startActivityForResult
Jul 27 18:28:16 <s73v3r> they don’t mention it because they assume you know Android programming
Jul 27 18:29:04 <s73v3r> that parameter is a request code that you send with the Intent. When you get called back in onActivityResult, they give you that code back, so you can tell what result is coming back
Jul 27 18:30:13 <j4f-shredder> perfect
Jul 27 18:30:16 <j4f-shredder> that's good
Jul 27 18:30:35 <j4f-shredder> yeah, I know what you mean, but they could do everything much better if they documented everything
Jul 27 18:30:44 <j4f-shredder> at least that's the way I like it
Jul 27 18:30:58 <s73v3r> again, that’s not part of their library
Jul 27 18:31:03 <s73v3r> it’s part of Android
Jul 27 18:31:13 <j4f-shredder> so, this is pretty common right?
Jul 27 18:31:18 <j4f-shredder> having a project sample
Jul 27 18:31:18 <s73v3r> yes
Jul 27 18:31:23 <j4f-shredder> with the library they are presenting
Jul 27 18:31:31 <s73v3r> somewhat
Jul 27 18:31:42 <j4f-shredder> and a "consumer" activity that shows you how to implement it and doesn't come with the graddle
Jul 27 18:32:40 <s73v3r> it shouldn’t come with the gradle
Jul 27 18:32:45 <j4f-shredder> implementing this multiple credential service is hell
Jul 27 18:32:55 <j4f-shredder> I'm learning a lot though
Jul 27 18:33:16 <j4f-shredder> this is my only option, that's why I'm trying so hard to implement it
Jul 27 18:33:27 <j4f-shredder> but noone talks about firebase UI
Jul 27 18:33:31 <j4f-shredder> it's not popular at all
Jul 27 18:37:50 <j4f-shredder> the thing that confuses me about that library as well is that it doesn't tell you in which activity implement it....I havea login screen activity and a main activity, I guess I should put it only on the login activity and a listener in the main activity, but it doesn't say there what to do after you log in
Jul 27 18:38:16 <s73v3r> it doesn’t matter what activity
Jul 27 18:38:28 <s73v3r> the library doesn’t have an opinion on that
Jul 27 18:40:34 <j4f-shredder> you are good giving answers, you helped me a lot
Jul 27 18:40:56 <j4f-shredder> I guess I have to get used to conventions
Jul 27 18:41:00 <j4f-shredder> that's where I'm failing
Jul 27 18:48:25 <j4f-shredder> let me see if I understood correctly
Jul 27 18:49:54 <j4f-shredder> on an Activity you have only one onActivityResult but you can throw multiple startActivityForresult with different codes and then catch them on onActivityresult andact accordingly?
Jul 27 18:50:07 <s73v3r> yup
Jul 27 18:50:26 <j4f-shredder> perfect
Jul 27 18:50:32 <j4f-shredder> thx
Jul 27 18:50:59 <s73v3r> although  i would suggest that, in onActivityResult, when you determine what result came back, you call out to a new function, rather than try to fit all of that in one big monster function
Jul 27 18:52:44 <j4f-shredder> s73v3r thank you sooo much dude, I could do it after a couple of days of struggling, give me your email and I'll try to ship you a bottle of wine
Jul 27 18:52:55 <j4f-shredder> it's workingg
Jul 27 18:53:38 <Fyber> The API sends back "Internal Server Error" when I make a call from Android, works fine in python. The only difference syntactically is keep-alive.
Jul 27 18:53:51 <Fyber> Does anyone know how I can use keep-alive
Jul 27 18:53:56 <Fyber> with retrofit2
Jul 27 18:59:17 <azv4> phone connected to pc, shows up in device manager, AS2.1 tells me "error running app, No target device found"
Jul 27 18:59:35 <azv4> tried everything listed on google that I can find
Jul 27 18:59:38 <azv4> nothing fixes this
Jul 27 19:00:11 <alexfu> azv4: you're using windows?
Jul 27 19:00:16 <azv4> alexfu, yes
Jul 27 19:00:31 <alexfu> azv4: did you install USB drivers for adb?
Jul 27 19:00:51 <azv4> alexfu, where do I get those?  the phone's drivers are installed on the dev machine
Jul 27 19:01:07 <alexfu> azv4: you read through https://developer.android.com/studio/run/oem-usb.html ?
Jul 27 19:01:08 <azv4> there are special drivers for Android 2.1 that weren't necessary for 1.5?  because this worked fine in 1.5
Jul 27 19:01:18 <vigilancer> how to override attribute in parent theme? say I have theme "MyTheme parent=Theme.Leanback". And I want to change attribute "defaultBrandColor" defined in parent theme "Theme.LeanbackBase
Jul 27 19:01:31 <azv4> alexfu, I went through that a year ago when I initally set this up in 1.5
Jul 27 19:01:43 <alexfu> if it was working previously, it should be fine. you restart adb ?
Jul 27 19:02:11 <azv4> Ive restarted abd, restarted AS, rebooted several times...
Jul 27 19:03:23 <azv4> I just tried to update the drivers and got, "best drivers are already installed"
Jul 27 19:03:33 <azv4> after pointing to the google drivers in the SDK folder
Jul 27 19:05:39 <alexfu> no idea then
Jul 27 19:06:07 <azv4> Ive never gone through any process in any IDE that had so many errors that had no solutions on google
Jul 27 19:06:20 <azv4> im in day 4 of trying to migrate this project to newest version of AS
Jul 27 19:06:24 <g00s> azv4 time to re-install the os ;)
Jul 27 19:06:30 <azv4> and its been the most painful and annoying process I've ever seen
Jul 27 19:06:35 <azv4> this computer is less than 2 months old
Jul 27 19:06:40 <g00s> jk
Jul 27 19:06:58 <alexfu> azv4: what does adb devices say?
Jul 27 19:07:26 <liuwenhao> Anyone know of a good library for runtime permissions? Dexter seems worse than just using the raw API with no library wrapper
Jul 27 19:07:29 <azv4> alexfu, in device manager?  "SAMSUNG Android ABD Interface"
Jul 27 19:07:46 <alexfu> azv4: ? no.. i mean in your command line
Jul 27 19:08:05 <s73v3r> did you put the phone in to developer mode and enable USB debugging?
Jul 27 19:08:15 <azv4> yes did all of that
Jul 27 19:08:21 <azv4> the phone even shows up in Android Monitor
Jul 27 19:08:38 <azv4> I select it, but it says, "no debuggable applications" beside where you choose the phone
Jul 27 19:08:46 <azv4> and there are no other options
Jul 27 19:08:59 <alexfu> does adb devices list it?
Jul 27 19:09:06 <azv4> where is that?
Jul 27 19:09:12 <alexfu> command line
Jul 27 19:09:16 <alexfu> you know
Jul 27 19:09:18 <alexfu> terminal
Jul 27 19:09:18 <azv4> Terminal?
Jul 27 19:09:26 <s73v3r> cmd.exe
Jul 27 19:09:27 <alexfu> power shell
Jul 27 19:09:29 <azv4> what is the command to check?
Jul 27 19:09:33 <alexfu> adb
Jul 27 19:09:34 <s73v3r> adb devices
Jul 27 19:09:35 <alexfu> devices
Jul 27 19:09:56 <azv4> those arent recognized commands
Jul 27 19:10:02 <azv4> ls
Jul 27 19:10:08 <s73v3r> you need to make sure adb is on your path
Jul 27 19:10:26 <alexfu> step 1: uninstall Windows and install Linux
Jul 27 19:10:30 <Ologn> They're talking about Firebase disaster on Reddit /r/androiddev
Jul 27 19:10:38 <azv4> I'd love to, but 95% of my dev time is in Visual Studio
Jul 27 19:10:54 <alexfu> step 2: install a windows vm on linux
Jul 27 19:10:55 <s73v3r> Ologn: new one, or the thread from yesterday?
Jul 27 19:11:01 <azv4> which honestly has 10x better support and far less guess work
Jul 27 19:11:10 <azv4> no offense to any diehard android devs
Jul 27 19:11:16 <azv4> but its just my opinion from my point of view
Jul 27 19:11:25 <s73v3r> azv4: no, it doesn't
Jul 27 19:11:28 <azv4> yes it does
Jul 27 19:11:29 <s73v3r> it’s just that you’re new
Jul 27 19:11:32 <s73v3r> no, it doesn't
Jul 27 19:11:35 <azv4> again, this is a subjective conversation
Jul 27 19:11:55 <azv4> Ive never once google an error message related to VS and come up so dry as I do with this stuff
Jul 27 19:12:16 * azv4 laughs at googling VS issues instead of Bing'ing them!
Jul 27 19:12:33 <azv4> funny how google search works better than bing even for M$ related topics
Jul 27 19:12:42 <azv4> not to get off topic
Jul 27 19:12:51 <azv4> I agree this probably is related to me being new
Jul 27 19:13:02 <azv4> I just am at a loss at this point
Jul 27 19:13:06 <alexfu> azv4: run adb from your android sdk folder
Jul 27 19:13:24 <alexfu> $ANDROID_SDK/platform-tools/adb
Jul 27 19:13:50 <azv4> pops up then disappears
Jul 27 19:13:57 <azv4> trying to remember how to force the term to stay open
Jul 27 19:13:59 <alexfu> well run the adb devices command
Jul 27 19:14:03 <alexfu> not just adb
Jul 27 19:14:04 <s73v3r> no, don’t double click it, type it into the terminal
Jul 27 19:14:38 <alexfu> azv4: cd $ANDROID_SDK/platform-tools
Jul 27 19:14:45 <alexfu> azv4: adb devices
Jul 27 19:14:58 <s73v3r> and in the future, you might want to add that directory to your path
Jul 27 19:15:00 <azv4> I just ran it
Jul 27 19:15:14 <azv4> what am I looking for?
Jul 27 19:15:21 <azv4> -l?
Jul 27 19:15:25 <alexfu> what does it say?
Jul 27 19:15:29 <s73v3r> is your device listed?
Jul 27 19:15:47 <azv4> there are no devices listed, I just get about 10 miles of commands and desscriptions
Jul 27 19:16:02 <s73v3r> what exactly did you type?
Jul 27 19:16:10 <azv4> adb.exe
Jul 27 19:16:24 <s73v3r> you need to type adb devices
Jul 27 19:16:26 <alexfu> adb.exe devices
Jul 27 19:16:28 <s73v3r> or adb.exe devices
Jul 27 19:16:42 <alexfu> i feel like im on repeat
Jul 27 19:16:43 <azv4> adb server version (32) doesn't match this client (36); killing...
Jul 27 19:16:43 <azv4> * daemon started successfully *
Jul 27 19:16:43 <azv4> d564896a        device
Jul 27 19:17:36 <alexfu> i would adb.exe kill-server and adb.exe start-server and see if AS picks it up then
Jul 27 19:18:27 <azv4> hmm, seems like something different might be happening here
Jul 27 19:19:13 <azv4> well I officially love you guys
Jul 27 19:19:20 <BasedGob> No homo :)
Jul 27 19:20:19 * azv4 beats BasedGob with a gay penguin for hate speech 
Jul 27 19:20:49 <BasedGob> >.< I'm just joking around
Jul 27 19:20:57 <s73v3r> it’s still not cool
Jul 27 19:20:59 <azv4> I'm so stoked right now that the app (even with its mysteriously altered color scheme) is running on this phone right now
Jul 27 19:22:55 <BasedGob> What aspect of the color scheme, like the bar on the top?
Jul 27 19:25:48 <azv4> BasedGob, that turned blue, but the text is dark grey over black now, and white on white for comboboxes
Jul 27 19:27:18 <azv4> I think the old custom theme dev.old defined used an old schema that is no longer supported in this newer SDK
Jul 27 19:27:30 <azv4> but honestly I'm still green enough that I am not sure where these definitions even reside
Jul 27 19:28:19 <BasedGob> azv4: Mess with some of the colors in res/values/colors.xml
Jul 27 19:28:30 <alexfu> styles.xml or themes.xml
Jul 27 19:28:51 <azv4> I have a styles.xml only, and it only has one entry
Jul 27 19:29:16 <azv4> <style name="Theme.PlastmaBackground" parent"android:Theme">
Jul 27 19:29:32 <azv4> then under it is an item name: that points to a custom background
Jul 27 19:29:50 <azv4> this is an old project from SDK4 imported and converted to gradle
Jul 27 19:30:38 <BasedGob> You don't have src/main/res/values/colors.xml ?
Jul 27 19:30:49 <BasedGob> Huh I guess I don't know much about earlier SDKs
Jul 27 19:31:12 <alexfu> colors.xml has always existed
Jul 27 19:34:32 <azv4> BasedGob, I do not have that .xml in that location
Jul 27 19:34:51 <azv4> I have only attrs.xml, strings.xml, and styles.xml in that folder
Jul 27 19:35:45 <alexfu> azv4: how about AndroidManifest.xml
Jul 27 19:36:09 <azv4> alexfu, I have that file...
Jul 27 19:36:24 <alexfu> any themes attached to the Activities?
Jul 27 19:36:37 <azv4> I just searched my backed up project folder, and the gradle migrated version, and neither return a hit for colors.xml
Jul 27 19:36:40 <azv4> let me check that
Jul 27 19:37:12 <azv4> <activity android:name=".BinSelectForm" android:label="Select Location" android:screenOrientation="portrait" android:clearTaskOnLaunch="true" android:excludeFromRecents="true" android:theme="@android:style/Theme.Dialog"></activity>
Jul 27 19:37:13 <azv4> 		
Jul 27 19:37:34 <BasedGob> Colors.xml controls stuff like the bar at the top, or the color of a check mark if you have a check box. Nothing too huge
Jul 27 19:37:37 <azv4> if programmer.old could figure out a wrong way to do something, he usually would jump right on it
Jul 27 19:37:58 <azv4> If I select a theme from the IDE, will it generate the colors.xml file?
Jul 27 19:38:42 <BasedGob> Not sure, but it may be worth a shot
Jul 27 19:43:09 <mark4> are android libraries (public api) compiled/assembled in arm or thumb mode?
Jul 27 19:43:45 <alexfu> mark4: are you talking about native libs?
Jul 27 19:44:24 <mark4> any public API function i can call from the NDK
Jul 27 19:44:42 <mark4> bl __pthread_mutex_lock or do i need to blx __pthread_mutex_lock
Jul 27 19:44:47 <mark4> im NOT developing ANYTHING in c
Jul 27 19:47:02 <azv4> when I see warnings in Component Tree when viewing a layout, about "" should be in strings.xml, do I just make an entry in strings.xml for that field?
Jul 27 19:47:43 <azv4> I can bring up "Extract Resource", then "ok" it, but nothing appears in the strings.xml folder...
Jul 27 19:47:56 <azv4> do I need to point the ide to the strings.xml file location somehow?
Jul 27 19:48:24 <danalbert> mark4: the shared libraries in the NDK aren't real libraries
Jul 27 19:48:45 <danalbert> mark4: the ones on the device are typically thumb, but that isn't necessarily the case
Jul 27 19:50:10 <mark4> danalbert, your not making any sense lol, what means "not real libraries". the only libraries used are the ones linked at run time
Jul 27 19:50:44 <danalbert> mark4: all the functions in the .so files that are shipped in the NDK are `void func_name() {}`
Jul 27 19:50:55 <mark4> however, the main question has been resolved. i need to blx when calling external functions and i need to bx lr to return externally
Jul 27 19:51:51 <mark4> danalbert, well i think static linking of public api libs is questionable so i have no problem with those being stubbs simply so that they can resolve at compile time
Jul 27 20:08:09 <j4f-shredder> How do I modify a file that was added with a gradle dependency?
Jul 27 20:08:39 <j4f-shredder> I have firebase-UI with a facebook-provider file to authenticate, and I need to modify something there
Jul 27 20:08:51 <j4f-shredder> where can I find it in my project folder?
Jul 27 20:11:01 <j4f-shredder> ?
Jul 27 20:11:52 <j4f-shredder> https://github.com/firebase/FirebaseUI-Android/blob/master/auth/src/main/java/com/firebase/ui/auth/provider/FacebookProvider.java
Jul 27 20:11:54 <j4f-shredder> that file
Jul 27 20:12:01 <j4f-shredder> I can't see it on my project tree
Jul 27 20:12:14 <j4f-shredder> nor any of the other files, the code works though
Jul 27 20:20:20 <truckcrash> j4f-shredder, Are you in android studio?
Jul 27 20:20:27 <j4f-shredder> yes
Jul 27 20:20:32 <truckcrash> have you looked under "External Libraries"?
Jul 27 20:20:56 <eemgr> What's the proper way to save large byte arrays to a file? I keep getting an out of memory error.
Jul 27 20:21:05 <j4f-shredder> yes
Jul 27 20:21:07 <j4f-shredder> it's there!
Jul 27 20:21:15 <j4f-shredder> if I modify the files from there
Jul 27 20:21:22 <j4f-shredder> do I have to do something else?
Jul 27 20:21:33 <j4f-shredder> or It will take the change?
Jul 27 20:21:54 <j4f-shredder> and if I update it later via gradle my changes will be overwritten wright?
Jul 27 20:22:01 <j4f-shredder> https://github.com/firebase/FirebaseUI-Android/pull/224
Jul 27 20:22:07 <truckcrash> hmmm.. I have never modified anything in there. I would imagine it would work until next time the lib was downloaded an then it would be over written yes
Jul 27 20:22:23 <truckcrash> I would imagine there is a better solution than chaning the lib itself
Jul 27 20:22:44 <j4f-shredder> they already have the patch 4 hours ago but they havent generated the new gradle yet
Jul 27 20:22:59 <j4f-shredder> how is the process with new versions on github
Jul 27 20:23:06 <j4f-shredder> after a pull request
Jul 27 20:23:17 <j4f-shredder> they merge everything and then how that reaches gradle?
Jul 27 20:25:15 <j4f-shredder> truckcrash the graddle files appear to be locked
Jul 27 20:25:25 <j4f-shredder> truckcrash how do I modify them
Jul 27 20:25:36 <j4f-shredder> truckcrash the ones on external librariesI mean
Jul 27 20:29:55 <eemgr> Does picasso download files and store them locally so even if the app is closed and restarted without a network connection those downloaded images will display?
Jul 27 20:31:26 <s73v3r> j4-f-shredder: you dont
Jul 27 20:33:15 <Fyber> Really quick simple question: I have a CardView and a text view on top of it, how do I align the textview to the bottom left of the card?
Jul 27 20:33:34 <Fyber> If I do it the regular way it dissapears
Jul 27 20:44:46 <BasedGob> Anyone have experience being banned from admob? I accidentally clicked one of my own ads once and got permabanned, not sure what to do
Jul 27 20:44:52 <Chepra> Hey! As a beginner for developing android apps: intellij or the "normal" ide?
Jul 27 20:45:17 <s73v3r> normal ide
Jul 27 20:45:17 <Ashiren> for beginner, android studio
Jul 27 20:45:19 <BasedGob> Chepra: Use Android Studio (which pretty much is intellij)
Jul 27 20:45:23 <Ashiren> which is intellij with pkugin
Jul 27 20:45:37 <Chepra> thanks :)
Jul 27 21:33:15 <grekkos> is it possible to set a part of a spannable to an XML style?
Jul 27 21:33:22 <grekkos> instead of builing it with pieces
Jul 27 21:37:28 <Fyber> ok I'm stumped: http://i.imgur.com/ssnUjzb.png I need to make the 48.5 go to the right of the title
Jul 27 21:37:32 <Fyber> with 30dp margin
Jul 27 21:38:24 <Fyber> I tried the drag and drop layout editor but that unparents it from the cardview
Jul 27 21:38:46 <Fyber> then if I reparent it -> goes back to where it was originally
Jul 27 21:52:02 <truckcrash> Fyber, https://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/RelativeLayout.LayoutParams.html#attr_android:layout_toRightOf
Jul 27 21:52:17 <trudev> is there something like lldb in iOS where I can set a breakpoint and execute commands in the console?
Jul 27 21:52:30 <trudev> eg: po [self foo] in iOS
Jul 27 21:52:43 <s73v3r> you can use the debugger in Android studio
Jul 27 21:53:04 <trudev> does that support the commands i'm talking about?
Jul 27 21:53:10 <truckcrash> trudev, I have never done ios dev, but this is possible in android studio
Jul 27 21:53:17 <Fyber> "Positions the left edge of this view to the right of the given anchor view ID." I need the right edge of the view to go to the right edge of the parent view, this won't work but thanks anyway
Jul 27 21:53:21 <s73v3r> and you can use the watch window to inspect objects
Jul 27 21:53:28 <trudev> truckcrash: what's it called?
Jul 27 21:53:49 <truckcrash> Fyber, there are other options on that page. Hopefully you can get one of them to work for you
Jul 27 21:53:58 <Fyber> Yup, looking at that now
Jul 27 21:54:16 <trudev> s73v3r: I know about that, but i don't find it as useful as what i'm talking about
Jul 27 21:54:22 <s73v3r> it’s the same thing
Jul 27 21:54:26 <trudev> too much clicking
Jul 27 21:54:39 <s73v3r> it’s still the same thing
Jul 27 21:54:44 <s73v3r> you get the same info
Jul 27 21:54:54 <trudev> yeah but my objects are huge af
Jul 27 21:55:03 <truckcrash> you can run commands when paused at a break point
Jul 27 21:55:05 <s73v3r> so expand the window
Jul 27 21:55:08 <Fyber> The other two ones that allign right/right don't seem to work:             android:layout_alignRight="@+id/cardview"             android:layout_alignParentRight="true"
Jul 27 21:55:13 <trudev> it's annoying to scroll down, click the little arrow find stuff
Jul 27 21:55:21 <trudev> rather just type
Jul 27 21:55:23 <truckcrash> i am not sure the name of it off hand, but the icon is there in the debgger pane
Jul 27 21:55:50 <trudev> truckcrash: can you send me screencap of the button?
Jul 27 21:57:20 <truckcrash> http://i.imgur.com/uICKbdn.png
Jul 27 21:58:10 <trudev> truckcrash: perfect! thanks!
Jul 27 21:58:16 <s73v3r> it’s Evaluate Expression. You can also right click on a symbol and open the same window
Jul 27 21:58:33 <truckcrash> Thanks s73v3r
Jul 27 21:58:55 <trudev> what's the command to print stuff
Jul 27 21:59:07 <trudev> oh nvm got it
Jul 27 21:59:08 <s73v3r> there isn’t really a console
Jul 27 21:59:23 <trudev> figured it out, thanks guys
Jul 27 21:59:30 <trudev> that was really annoying
Jul 27 21:59:37 <trudev> without this console
Jul 27 22:17:05 <Fyber> figured that out, I just had to wrap the card in a relativelayout
Jul 27 22:24:01 <vol4ko> I have Activity1 and Fragment1 bound to the activity, so form Fragment1 in gridview onclick listener i start Fragment2 replacing the Fragment1 from Activity1 fragment holder(relative layout). Any idea how can i handle the orientation changes/
Jul 27 22:24:07 <vol4ko> so far its pain.
Jul 27 22:24:41 <vol4ko> I am not sure if need to continue like this or just switch all fragments to activities
Jul 27 22:25:01 <vol4ko> there will be huge perfomance overhead if i go with activites
Jul 27 22:32:21 <Fyber> vol4ko: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13305861/fool-proof-way-to-handle-fragment-on-orientation-change
Jul 27 23:30:42 <RomSec> hey guys
Jul 27 23:31:46 <BasedGob> hello
Jul 28 01:55:15 <g00s> fun http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/the-2016-top-programming-languages
Jul 28 02:21:35 <wyoung> python right?
Jul 28 02:22:42 <wyoung> aawww, it is 3rd
Jul 28 02:24:56 <wyoung> PHP isn't nearly as low on the scale as it should be
Jul 28 02:31:25 <g00s> wyoung surprised ruby still hanging on too ...
Jul 28 02:31:38 <g00s> must be a lot of RoR apps out there :)
Jul 28 02:31:44 <wyoung> g00s: same, I was suprised about fortran
Jul 28 02:33:01 <wyoung> scala is used in mobile enironments?
Jul 28 02:33:34 <g00s> wyoung i think somebody here uses it ;)
Jul 28 02:34:16 <wyoung> I don't understand how that would work
Jul 28 02:34:40 <g00s> :D
Jul 28 02:36:36 <wyoung> I think python on mobile environment needs to increase
Jul 28 02:36:50 <wyoung> g00s: jython works on Android right?
Jul 28 02:37:14 <g00s> no idea, generally don't hear anyone talk about it
Jul 28 02:37:48 <wyoung> hmmm, ok, well I will look into it another time, need to do some work :\
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