**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 01 02:59:58 2016 Sep 01 03:00:13 arancio: yes , that is something you have to deal with vim :D Sep 01 03:00:35 arancio: coz vim is all about muscle memory Sep 01 03:00:36 pitiye: don't you want to become millionaire with Android apps? Sep 01 03:01:04 arancio: i'd love to, but with purely with vim rather than AS :D Sep 01 03:01:44 Why? Sep 01 03:02:15 arancio: obsession :D Sep 01 03:02:27 and more importantly, if you want to use vim instead of AS, why don't you create your project folders without complaining much? Sep 01 03:03:21 arancio: that is what i do at this time Sep 01 03:03:29 "I want to use vim! Hey but vim it's a pain in the ass! I don't want the pain in the ass! But I want to use vim! I'm starting to like the pain in the ass!" Sep 01 03:04:09 i was looking for a way to encapsulate android issues within android rather than mixing them with vim Sep 01 03:04:30 I'd like to program Android apps just by having a chat with Cortana Sep 01 03:04:55 arancio: i dont have cortana :( Sep 01 03:05:35 Meh, I understand wanting to use the IDE that you like the features of. I mean I'd rather use Eclipse than AS but whatever Sep 01 03:07:03 vim is hot shit once you get your shortcuts down. I fully get the desire to use it, not mention WYSIWYG lies and I've never designed anything with it except a website I use to run in 98 with Netscape Navigator lol Sep 01 03:07:48 Meliphas: BINGO ! Sep 01 03:11:14 you'll never become millionaires with Android development Sep 01 03:13:03 arancio: millionaire means more headaches Sep 01 03:13:29 arancio: its not glamorous or fancy, or pleasurable as it shows off Sep 01 03:13:53 arancio: its more pain in the brain rather than in ass Sep 01 03:14:04 pitiye: why is it so? Sep 01 03:14:17 ideavim, problem solved Sep 01 03:14:18 arancio: deal with a millionaire and find out Sep 01 03:14:34 pfn: now i use ideavim with pleasure ! Sep 01 03:15:16 pitiye: most of the people in this channels are millionaires who made the millions with Android apps Sep 01 03:15:32 pitiye: they are all cool guys Sep 01 03:15:56 Honestly your development tools aren't as much a factor in whether or not you can make it to a highly successful application as is your ideas and ability to actually manifest them Sep 01 03:16:34 yeah, spending time with mkdir is not a good way to express your ideas Sep 01 03:16:41 arancio: but here if u become a millionaire, the whole government is coming after you to get the every penny you own for their every tax rule. got my point ? Sep 01 03:17:38 pitiye: that's false. the more money you make, the less taxes you pay. See "EU vs Apple" Sep 01 03:17:42 It's not that hard to write the scripts you need to set your environment up, you have to configure every environment to a degree so the argument imo is moot Sep 01 03:17:56 ultimate peace of mind is you want the programs and computer to work the way you think, and not vice-versa Sep 01 03:18:11 arancio: Not here in Central Asia Sep 01 03:18:21 sorry - South Asia Sep 01 03:18:56 pitiye: Central Asia or South Asia? Don't you know where you live? Sep 01 03:19:31 pitiye: if you change the way you think quick enough you don't have that problem Sep 01 03:19:34 Meliphas: that is what i currently do - i have a ~/scripts/ folder which does that for me. But i wanted to encapsulate android stuff within android. that is why i posted my question Sep 01 03:19:54 arancio: i pasted the wrong register :( Sep 01 03:20:17 pitiye: what do you mean with "pasted the wrong register"? Sep 01 03:20:20 arancio: when u get used to vim , you always try to reduce the number of keystrokes you hit Sep 01 03:21:05 arancio: i have a clipboard manager which maintains registry of frequently pasted words Sep 01 03:21:35 arancio: so i missed the right shortcut Sep 01 03:22:11 pitiye: do you use latin characters in your first language? Sep 01 03:22:23 arancio: no Sep 01 03:22:28 pitiye: ok Sep 01 03:22:51 pitiye: now I understand. Is typing english a pain for you? Sep 01 03:23:58 arancio: my native language's words are always less than 6 words , because it has many letter than in english. Sep 01 03:24:38 arancio: so typing more than 5 letters becomes an issue Sep 01 03:24:52 6 letters Sep 01 03:25:09 pitiye: I see. I guess I'll die without learning one of those funky languages. Sep 01 03:25:55 arancio: you will find that english is more funkier than others Sep 01 03:26:08 I want to learn other spoken languages but I'm a lazy american, I like learning programming languages, but I can't seem to get myself to stick to learning spoken language Sep 01 03:26:53 pitiye: when I was a kid I attempted to imagine how would the computer keyboards for those languages. I imagined cubes with keys in all sides. Ok, I was silly. Sep 01 03:27:04 how would the computer keyboards for those languages look like Sep 01 03:27:11 I used to think like that as well Sep 01 03:27:36 arancio: we use standard keyboards, but always with key combos for each letter Sep 01 03:27:49 Meliphas: use Babbel or duolingo Sep 01 03:27:54 they're both great Sep 01 03:28:00 preference to babbel imo Sep 01 03:28:05 because the count of letters far exceed the number of keys onboard Sep 01 03:28:30 pitiye: I was a silly kid but I'm not retarded. :D Later I learned that you use more or less standard keyboards, of course Sep 01 03:29:09 :D Sep 01 03:31:04 problem with most western languages is that they don't provide the facility to communicate with parallel universes Sep 01 03:32:44 what kind of parallel universes? Sep 01 03:33:14 arancio: its a tough concept to grasp, it cannot be taught, it has to be understood on your own Sep 01 03:33:28 I smell scam Sep 01 03:35:36 pitiye: your name sounds like "pity you" Sep 01 03:35:58 arancio: u smell vim as a scam initially, but when you learn to live with it, you won't ever feel vim as a scam Sep 01 03:36:09 arancio: parallel universes are also like that Sep 01 03:37:10 :D Sep 01 03:37:28 arancio: how old are you ? Sep 01 03:39:24 pitiye: taking into account all my past incarnations, 2523 years old. Sep 01 03:39:59 arancio: tha is wrong Sep 01 03:40:05 that's Sep 01 03:40:25 you are infinite years old , if you take your previous incarnations into account Sep 01 03:41:37 pitiye: the universe itself has a finite lifespan. you can't have an infinite age. Plus not everybody was born with the universe. Sep 01 03:46:52 arancio: if you consider previous incarnations - then you have infinite age Sep 01 03:48:41 pitiye: as I said your logic is flawed. Previous incarnation can be traced back to an age older than the age of the universe. The age of the universe is finite. Thus even considering previous incarnations you can't have an infinite age Sep 01 03:48:49 can't Sep 01 03:49:32 how do you track previous incarnations ? Sep 01 03:51:34 there is a registry of previous incarnations Sep 01 03:52:18 where ? Sep 01 03:53:15 its not in clipboard :P Sep 01 03:54:03 brb Sep 01 03:56:33 Previous incarnations? Age of the universe? Huh? Sep 01 03:56:46 Did I stumble into ##philosophy by mistake? :P Sep 01 03:59:39 VerbalKint: How can you truly know if it was a mistake? What if everything is by design? Sep 01 03:59:46 ;-) Sep 01 04:00:07 jjuran__: I don't believe in gods and souls Sep 01 04:01:01 jjuran__: and just because we didn't know how electricity worked 2000 years ago doesn't mean that us using it right now is impossible, for example Sep 01 04:01:22 VerbalKint: Google is god, you are a poor soul Sep 01 04:02:58 pitiye: welcome back Sep 01 04:03:45 jjuran__: oh darn, I thought you were talking about the universe's creation, not about my question :D Sep 01 04:03:57 :-P Sep 01 04:04:06 Haven't had my coffee yet, so I'm malfunctioning Sep 01 04:06:24 UTC+2 Sep 01 04:13:32 arancio: ty Sep 01 04:23:13 hello ppl Sep 01 04:23:25 pitiye: I debunked your pro-infinite age argument and as a consequence your whole eastern philosophy felt apart. Thus I demonstrated that there is no logic behind your stubbornness in using vim. Sep 01 04:23:34 MaBunny: hello! Sep 01 04:23:46 i hav set to download the android-studio-ide-143.3101438-linux.zip file from dev.android.com Sep 01 04:23:54 hey arancio Sep 01 04:24:22 will it include the necessary files to start developing for android Sep 01 04:24:24 ? Sep 01 04:24:50 MaBunny: Yes. Sep 01 04:24:56 thank you Sep 01 04:25:20 as i think,ill also need to download the openjdk libs for Java 8? Sep 01 04:26:06 im in a linux platform Sep 01 04:26:11 I didn't think it did Open JDK. Sep 01 04:29:35 so? Sep 01 04:35:28 nobody knows whether the universe has a finite lifespan. no scientist will ever say this. they'll talk about entropy and things, but they'll never ever directly say that the universe could die. it's not known. it's only laypeople that reinterpret it this way out of ignorance. Sep 01 04:38:38 pragma- so sorry to read such and interesting and debatable thought right before going to bed Sep 01 04:38:52 hopefully we can discuss about it in the future Sep 01 04:39:42 well, it was just a long-winded and convoluted way for me to call arancio ignorant. Sep 01 04:41:47 https://jaxenter.com/java-8-will-be-introduced-to-android-by-changing-to-openjdk-123810.html Sep 01 04:43:06 https://source.android.com/source/initializing.html Sep 01 04:43:38 this page says i require openjdk 8 packages to build the source for androids Sep 01 04:47:59 so can anyone tell me if i can build for lollipop and kitkat using openjdk,guys? Sep 01 04:48:07 sorry for being intrusive Sep 01 04:53:12 MaBunny: uh, I thought you already linked to two pages that answers your question. Sep 01 04:53:25 kk Sep 01 05:25:18 pragma-: let me use a more direct and short way to tell you are a moron. You didn't even understand what I wrote, which was quite simple, indeed. Sep 01 05:25:54 pragma-: so you wasted time explaining that something that I didn't say was wrong. Sep 01 05:26:25 haha, pragma- can't kick and ban people here like he is doing in his own channel Sep 01 05:26:39 what a twist Sep 01 05:27:23 arancio: just notifying he banned a guy when he criticized his bot Sep 01 05:38:20 arancio: I'm sorry, that conversation was so 1 hour ago. Try to keep up with current trends instead of bringing up the past all the time. Sep 01 05:39:38 pragma-: coward moron Sep 01 05:39:42 pragma-: it’s not as if anything else noteworthy happened in the hour that followed Sep 01 05:39:56 well, I can see that this conversation is certainly going to be intelligent and stimulating. Sep 01 05:40:02 and ignored Sep 01 05:40:08 yup Sep 01 05:40:12 Excellent. Sep 01 05:40:28 There's nothing like an ignorant person showing how ignorant they are by ignoring people. Sep 01 05:40:43 Please don't call the other users idiots, morons, ... Sep 01 05:41:04 Ignore each other if you can't get along, or take it to private messages Sep 01 05:41:18 SimonVT: problem solved he's been put on ignore Sep 01 05:41:31 Thank you Sep 01 05:41:42 I hate java, what do I do with it Sep 01 05:41:50 kill it with fire Sep 01 05:43:01 I used to minimally enjoy programming... until I had to do Javascript and now Java X_X Sep 01 05:43:12 ok guys i hav downloaded the package Sep 01 05:45:12 there is nothing more moron than a coward moron who changes nick to harass people in private Sep 01 05:46:10 Chris is a troubled person. Troubled as in mentally ill Sep 01 05:46:51 arancio, maybe spammer or troll Sep 01 06:03:22 does anyone of you guys work on android from the terminal on linux? Sep 01 06:04:00 arancio: last warning Sep 01 06:05:20 QED Sep 01 06:05:38 arancio can you help me? Sep 01 06:06:39 MaBunny, I doubt he can :) last time I asked him about building android he said wrong channel Sep 01 06:06:43 i need to get run the sdk manager from terminal to download the sdk libs for kitkat and lollipop Sep 01 06:07:29 MaBunny: Sorry. I never built Android. Sep 01 06:08:23 well,Jiggunjer_ im on linux with a 2gb ram computer,building using the Android Stdio could be like a sledgehammer on a head for me Sep 01 06:09:37 i need someone to just tell me how to get a headstart using the android's command line tools Sep 01 06:09:40 MaBunny: have you optimized your gradle and Android Studio memory usage options? Sep 01 06:10:18 VerbalKint, i havent downloaded Android Studio at all,using it on my windows machine made it really slow Sep 01 06:10:50 MaBunny: well, I'm forcing Android Studio to use 386mb of RAM right now and it's working fine Sep 01 06:11:02 Jiggunjer__: yes, sincerely I guess that's more a topic for #android-root. If I told you "wrong channel" is because I think it's more likely that you find help in that channel. Sep 01 06:11:04 MaBunny: the default options are like 1280mb or something Sep 01 06:11:08 Type android to open sdk manager Sep 01 06:11:25 Assuming your path is set up Sep 01 06:11:27 SimonVT ok Sep 01 06:11:33 well Sep 01 06:11:58 my path isnt set maybe,i just downloaded android Sep 01 06:12:01 tools* Sep 01 06:12:16 arancio, glad to see I'm not on your ignore list anymore :) Sep 01 06:12:17 Jiggunjer__: off course it's not completely off-topic here but building Android and building apps for Android are two different things. If you find help here, all the better Sep 01 06:12:18 MaBunny: and I'm not sure of what exactly I'm changing, but I have gradle limited to 2 processes, 512mb each Sep 01 06:12:34 ok Sep 01 06:12:44 MaBunny: but I have 4GB of RAM Sep 01 06:13:05 MaBunny: I'm just telling you that you can tweak the memory usage Sep 01 06:13:11 Jiggunjer__: I don't even remember talking with you here. Sep 01 06:13:14 idk how to do it,i hav some experience on c++ and java just,new to android Sep 01 06:13:20 tools/ and platform-tools/ needs to be on path.. platform-tools might not be there by default Sep 01 06:13:38 SimonVT hav you used linux? Sep 01 06:13:47 arancio, ok :p I'm pretty new maybe that's why Sep 01 06:14:06 Nope Sep 01 06:14:35 I've used the SDK. I'll leave the Linux stuff up to you Sep 01 06:14:49 ok Sep 01 06:15:46 MaBunny, I remember following detailed steps on googles website, and it worked fine in a VM Sep 01 06:16:52 Jiggunjer__, can you link it to me? Sep 01 06:17:36 easy way to add a shadow (drop shadow) to an imageview? Sep 01 06:17:46 You ever get that feeling that you only ever begin to ask questions in an irc channel, then realize you can't phrase your question very well, and in trying to rephrase your question you end up solving your own problem? Sep 01 06:18:02 one of these days I'm actually going to get help in the irc... Sep 01 06:18:31 MaBunny, same link you had before: https://source.android.com/source/initializing.html Sep 01 06:18:41 moms: probably because you're Japanese and your language's syntax is very different from European languages :D Sep 01 06:18:57 moms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging Sep 01 06:19:58 moms: sure. It happens often when interacting with people in general. The effort to communicate with other people make you deepen your understanding of your problem and find a solution. Sep 01 06:21:06 Well right now I'm trying to learn espresso testing. My employer has not been big on unit testing so far, so I'm pushing that we actually learn how to do this stuff and do it right. Sep 01 06:21:28 Unfortunately I'm still horribly noobish. Sep 01 06:21:56 moms: you don't put the same effort because you are discouraged. Hoping that communicating the problem to someone else will provide a solution, you re-new your efforts and do what you didn't do before. Sep 01 06:22:11 I'm trying to automate a portion of app testing that involves the qr code recognition activity in our app, but right now I just have it on a loop with a sheet of qr codes taped in front of the camera. Sep 01 06:23:37 MaBunny: is this what you wanted? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17963508/how-to-install-android-sdk-build-tools-on-the-command-line Sep 01 06:25:26 MaBunny: just tested it on something and it works Sep 01 06:25:35 BRB Sep 01 06:26:01 the stackoverflow websites were down awhile ago...couldnt access them then Sep 01 06:27:36 gah, just figured it out again long before I could phrase the question appropriately. Sep 01 06:27:51 MaBunny, you have a folder android-sdk-linux? Sep 01 06:28:23 yeah Sep 01 06:28:36 cd to the tools subfolder Sep 01 06:28:40 ok Sep 01 06:28:44 then type ./android Sep 01 06:29:22 VerbalKint: I just live in Japan, I'm not Japanese. Sep 01 06:30:11 ok i have started the SDK Manager Sep 01 06:30:16 cool Sep 01 06:30:26 thnx Jiggunjer__ Sep 01 06:32:54 Guys what do you build Android for? Sep 01 06:34:51 you can port android to the arduino or pi...for example Sep 01 06:35:03 or to your own custom board Sep 01 06:37:44 I supposed android for arduino or pi were available pre-built, given the popularity Sep 01 06:39:06 yes,but there are lots of other boards too Sep 01 06:40:31 I see. Thanks Sep 01 06:40:43 also for the IoT Sep 01 06:41:02 arancio_, what exp do you hav? Sep 01 06:42:39 about hardware? zero. I was thinking of making a motion tracking suit for gymnastics but I guess it would cost too much for my purposes. I guess each sensor would cost about 70$ Sep 01 06:43:13 no,from programming to linux to COmputer Science in a general basis Sep 01 06:44:41 I programmed linux in past. Both I didn't use it in the last 8-9 years. I don't have formal education in CS. Just lots of different experiences. Sep 01 06:44:56 ok Sep 01 06:45:04 Why do you ask? Sep 01 06:45:05 can i pm you? Sep 01 06:45:14 ok Sep 01 06:45:19 well,ill talk about it in pm Sep 01 06:45:21 ok Sep 01 06:45:33 Both -> but Sep 01 06:51:20 Man, Google Play apps bring out the most misanthropic feelings in me Sep 01 06:51:33 *games Sep 01 06:51:53 A big majority of them glorify gunfights Sep 01 06:52:07 And they wonder what the US has such a high rate of gun massacres Sep 01 06:52:11 *why Sep 01 06:52:53 Hello, when using google play services, how do you figure out which version number to use in the gradle file? Sep 01 06:53:10 I find sniper games really sick with their slow motion bullet cam Sep 01 06:53:40 I am following a tutorial where the author just put "compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services:6.5+'" Sep 01 06:53:50 when I checked my SDK tools, the installed version is 32 Sep 01 06:54:22 sulaiman: compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services:9.4.0' is the latest version Sep 01 06:54:52 sulaiman: sulaiman https://developers.google.com/android/guides/setup Sep 01 06:55:51 sulaiman: you ought to get individual packages like com.google.android.gms:play-services-plus:9.4.0 Sep 01 06:57:26 VerbalKint, thanks, so whenever I update the google play service, I should check that link to find the correct version number? Sep 01 06:57:52 sulaiman: you could do that or Android Studio will notify you in the gradle file that there's a new version Sep 01 06:58:42 thanks VerbalKint Sep 01 06:58:48 sulaiman: np Sep 01 07:01:55 VerbalKint: who won? Google or you? Sep 01 07:06:01 Arancio: ? Sep 01 07:06:32 VerbalKint: Weren't you fighting with Google about your app? Sep 01 07:07:36 Arancio: oh, I fixed the issues by myself :D Sep 01 07:07:52 Arancio: they still haven't deleted the buggy API project Sep 01 07:08:49 morning VerbalKint Sep 01 07:08:57 raoul11: shalom Sep 01 07:09:02 (: Sep 01 07:11:04 Arancio: and before you call me a noob, there was actually a Google Support page about the exact same thing that I had Sep 01 07:11:44 VerbalKint: I don't know anything about Google Play so I wouldn't be in position to call anybody noob about it Sep 01 07:12:33 But now that he mentioned the support page you're free to do so. :-P Sep 01 07:13:31 jjuran__: it said contact google, so I did Sep 01 07:14:03 VerbalKint: "before you call me a noob…" Sep 01 07:14:23 Never mind. It wasn't that funny. Sep 01 07:14:31 :) Sep 01 07:14:50 I still haven't received an email from them and it's almost a week since I made the tickets Sep 01 07:15:10 If I say something that doesn't make sense, assume it was a smartass remark that fell flat. Sep 01 07:15:20 jjuran__: I know the feeling :D Sep 01 07:15:48 noob :-P Sep 01 07:17:53 raoul11: I'm currently programming the language change option Sep 01 07:18:21 naice Sep 01 07:18:36 im doing yet another screen/activity Sep 01 07:20:15 raoul11: what kind of application are you doing? Sep 01 07:20:26 logic game Sep 01 07:24:03 VerbalKint: don't the app language follow the device settings? Sep 01 07:24:53 Arancio: the thing is that a big chunk of my Romanian users have their phones set to English, but wouldn't understand the English content Sep 01 07:25:16 Arancio: so I have to ask them first and give them an option to change it later Sep 01 07:25:40 VerbalKint: I see. Can you switch the resource set being used programmatically? Sep 01 07:26:00 Arancio: think so :D Sep 01 07:26:17 Layouting right now, haven't started the programming Sep 01 07:27:02 hey guys Sep 01 07:27:55 can somebody send me an example code, that check "if bluetooth device connected" ? Sep 01 07:27:58 zedz: Hey! Sep 01 07:28:14 i found several examples but they are confusing Sep 01 07:29:27 then better if you ask about the things you don't understand in them Sep 01 07:33:15 some of these examples using BluetoothDevice.ACTION_ACL_CONNECTED Sep 01 07:33:29 but i just found this -> List getConnectedDevices Sep 01 07:33:56 which one is the preferred way? Sep 01 07:39:15 why dont you buy some books for android dev? Sep 01 07:39:18 Both are useful. The first is an event. You can use it if you want to do something when a device is connected. The second is a method useful to poll the connected device. You can use it at any moment. What do you have to do? Sep 01 07:39:23 zedz^^ Sep 01 07:42:37 Arancio: i just want to get the number of connected devices Sep 01 07:43:34 get the length of the getConnectedDevice() list Sep 01 07:44:30 and can i write a broadcastreceiver or a listener to check the changes of this list? Sep 01 07:49:05 yes, that's what the action is for: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13324000/broadcastreceiver-action-acl-connected-never-received Sep 01 07:49:15 in the handler you check the list Sep 01 07:52:37 Is anyone able to help me out with a MediaPlayer problem? I have an app that shows live rtsp streams, but for some reason, the mediaplayer stops approx. 1 minute after starting Sep 01 07:53:10 I made the MediaPlayer static so it doesn't get garbage collected, added onErrorListener and onInfoListener since it doesn't show anything in the stackstrace by itself Sep 01 07:53:20 but even those listeners show nothing when the video stops Sep 01 07:54:58 try exoplayer Sep 01 07:55:28 oh true, I could try that Sep 01 07:55:40 Still though, what could cause this to happen? Sep 01 07:55:52 Happens in both VideoView and MediaPlayer Sep 01 07:57:08 I'm sure cause is echoed to logs Sep 01 07:59:47 Output EOS has been reached? Sep 01 08:01:07 This time that popped up when mediaplayer stopped Sep 01 08:06:03 VerbalKint, I found another method, the path "/extras/google/m2repository/com/google/android/gms/play-services" under the SDK lists all the available versions Sep 01 08:06:23 Does anyone know anything about MediaPlayer Output EOS has been reached error? Sep 01 08:06:50 sulaiman: don't you want the latest version? Sep 01 08:07:19 VerbalKint, yes, and it shows 9.4.0 as the latest version Sep 01 08:08:20 Kamihan: I guess it means end of stream Sep 01 08:08:50 sulaiman: well, if you put in 9.3.0 in your gradle file and save it, you'll find out that Android Studio makes the text yellow and tells you that it's outdated Sep 01 08:09:08 squ: seems like it is, but I can't find much about it Sep 01 08:11:04 Kamihan, slow network is likely Sep 01 08:14:01 Zharf: I don't believe that that's the case, since 2-3 other apps on my phone can play the stream just fine Sep 01 08:20:07 Heya Sep 01 08:20:39 zedz: BT is the devil Sep 01 08:21:00 I wanna show all months on the screen, then when you click them, show the weeks, then show the days Sep 01 08:21:14 Kamihan, device too slow which causes it to not buffer enough and ends up in EOS? :) Sep 01 08:21:19 How would I do that best? :O what approach is useable for me Sep 01 08:22:56 Zharf, I tested 3 different apps (inclusing the one I made, and two others) on two different devices. The other two apps work fine on both devices. My app is the only one that stops Sep 01 08:28:19 Xatenev, check if any of https://android-arsenal.com/tag/27 would work for you Sep 01 08:29:31 Zharf: thanks Sep 01 08:29:40 That goes into the right direction definetly. Sep 01 08:34:04 guys, does somebody using batterknife? Sep 01 08:34:24 zedz: sounds illegal *rimshot* Sep 01 08:34:25 butter Sep 01 08:34:26 :D Sep 01 08:34:57 i mean this -> http://jakewharton.github.io/butterknife/ Sep 01 08:36:36 zedz: are you using it? Sep 01 08:36:58 yep, i just got a question Sep 01 08:37:14 then you got the answer, you are using it Sep 01 08:37:29 ask the question to yourself, now Sep 01 08:38:58 zedz: more seriously, I guess JakeWharton uses it Sep 01 08:39:35 Plenty uses it, but so far there's no question for them to answer Sep 01 08:40:10 how can I bind it in a class which called by an activity? Sep 01 08:40:24 since "ask to ask" is forbidden on IRC, people must find innovative ways to do the same thing Sep 01 08:40:53 in the class' constructor i got the activity's instance Sep 01 08:41:09 like public MyClass(Activity _activity) Sep 01 08:41:24 and try ButterKnife.bind(_activity) Sep 01 08:41:48 Use one of the 2 parameter bind methods Sep 01 08:41:53 but it throws error for example when i want to use one of my TextView Sep 01 08:42:11 It needs to know where to bind views, and where to find views Sep 01 08:43:39 and how can i pass it to my class? Sep 01 08:44:35 Pass what? Sep 01 08:44:59 as u said it needs to know where to bind views Sep 01 08:45:27 so i guess i need to pass the view beside of the activity instance Sep 01 08:45:37 Yes, the object that has fields that need to be bound Sep 01 08:45:53 Have you checked the various bind methods? Sep 01 08:46:59 SimonVT: yes, but i dont get it how can i pass View to my custom class Sep 01 08:47:26 for example in a fragment i can just get it like this -> View view = inflater.inflate(R.layout.fancy_fragment, container, false); Sep 01 08:47:37 You have the activity, that's all you need Sep 01 08:48:24 SimonVT: i call my class this way -> new myClass(this).myFunction(); Sep 01 08:48:34 where this refers to the Activity Sep 01 08:48:53 Right Sep 01 08:48:55 and when i want to bind my objects in myClass' constructor Sep 01 08:49:04 it will throws error Sep 01 08:49:22 that ButterKnife doesnt find the objects Sep 01 08:49:28 Yes, what you did previously was wrong Sep 01 08:49:37 how can i do it right Sep 01 08:49:47 Use one of the 2 parameter bind methods Sep 01 08:50:20 i dont get it Sep 01 08:50:29 A bind method that takes 2 parameters Sep 01 08:50:48 Does your IDE not give you a list? https://cl.ly/2J2i1s3v3D3h Sep 01 08:57:53 SimonVT: what is the second parameter? Sep 01 08:58:00 SimonVT: the first is the activity Sep 01 08:58:05 and the second one? Sep 01 08:58:24 No, the activity is the source Sep 01 08:58:32 The source is where the views are Sep 01 08:58:55 The javadocs should say this as well Sep 01 09:01:14 SimonVT: now it works, thanks a lot :) Sep 01 09:03:11 hello, has anyone implemented account switching like gmail? I've searched for it in support lib but seems like I need to do it myself, is it true ? Sep 01 09:04:50 hm. where in android studio do I see System.out.println messages when I call this in my android app ? Sep 01 09:05:13 tilerendering, alt+6 Sep 01 09:05:43 if you mean log.?("", ""); msgs Sep 01 09:06:18 hello Sep 01 09:06:38 how i add space between 2 rows ? Sep 01 09:07:00 i have 5 rows in 1 textView Sep 01 09:07:27 and i need to add for example 11px between rows Sep 01 09:12:49 oh thanks Sep 01 09:13:55 linespaceextra freelancerbob Sep 01 09:18:37 fragments are able to interact with the parent ui elements, right? i keep getting null point exception when I try to access a few buttons from my fragment by using: Button aButton = (Button) getActivity().findViewById(R.id.aUiButtonElement); Sep 01 09:33:37 Jesperhead: what does getActivity().getView() return? Sep 01 09:33:56 Jesperhead: You need to get the view on the parent first, then parentView.findViewById() Sep 01 09:34:55 from within the fragment, getActivity().getView() doesn't resolve Sep 01 09:35:33 specifically, getView() Sep 01 09:35:35 getActivity().findViewById(R.id.parentContainer); Sep 01 09:36:09 RelativeLayout pv = (RelativeLayout) getActivity().findViewById(R.id.parentContainer); Sep 01 09:36:23 pv.findViewById(R.id.aUiButtonElement) Sep 01 09:36:36 oh thank you i will try that Sep 01 09:37:12 i had tried using the container viewgroup that is passed in onCreateView but didnt have any luck Sep 01 09:37:19 hey Sep 01 09:37:23 anybody in here using gson ? Sep 01 09:37:33 probably most people Sep 01 09:37:35 just ask your question Sep 01 09:37:38 gson for the win Sep 01 09:38:14 Jesperhead: I think you can do getRootView() in the onCreateView() on the fragment but haven't really used it before Sep 01 09:38:35 good morning all Sep 01 09:38:44 gm Sep 01 09:38:56 so I got this json string, “{"LoginResult":{"appuser":{"userid”:4}}} - and I want to deserialize it to my class “Loginresultwrapper” - how can I tell GSON that “LoginResult” (in the JSON String) is actually Loginresultwrapper ? Sep 01 09:39:16 with xstream, I could alias classes Sep 01 09:39:23 in gson maybe there are other methods to do this Sep 01 09:39:39 unfortunately, it seems impossible to use xstream on android. Sep 01 09:40:31 you want to dump the outer layer that is and only get the LoginResultWrapper which has appuser field in it? Sep 01 09:41:07 I want Loginresultwrapper (my java class) to hold what is in LoginResult (json) Sep 01 09:41:25 cmendes0101: im afraid i still receive null point exception when using the appointed parent view layout for findViewById Sep 01 09:41:25 gson.fromJson(jsonString, LoginResult.class) .. but yah you might need to have 2 classes. one for the whole json and one for the object inside Sep 01 09:41:29 and yeah actually maybe this is equal to dumping the outer layer Sep 01 09:41:49 maybe there is something like “ignorerootelement” or something Sep 01 09:42:06 xstream was so nice. Sep 01 09:42:30