**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 05 02:59:59 2016 Sep 05 03:01:51 :) Sep 05 03:10:56 Arancio: btw it reminded me of a game produced during Ludum Dare events Sep 05 03:11:23 you probably never played it, if you want to give it a go, it's named "Reap" Sep 05 03:17:01 bluk: I can see why it reminded you of that game. I guess the style is different enough. I'll work some more on it. Thanks again. You are very kind Sep 05 03:31:56 so has anyone started using rxjava 2 ? Sep 05 03:36:21 i wonder if this forthcoming oreilly rxjava book is 1.x or 2.x Sep 05 03:52:28 g00s: ask Tomasz Nurkiewicz or Ben Christensen "Tomasz can be reached on Twitter @tnurkiewicz and on his blog at www.nurkiewicz.com." Sep 05 04:25:15 i love those macbook heating problems <3 Sep 05 04:30:17 gordon_: why do you love them? Sep 05 04:31:01 google: sarcasm Sep 05 04:34:05 I don't need to google sarcasm Sep 05 04:34:31 yeah, it fianlly compiled :D Sep 05 04:34:32 15 mintues Sep 05 04:35:04 if you have a mac you can make a hackintosh yea? Sep 05 04:35:18 ummm Sep 05 04:35:25 it doesnt make sense Sep 05 04:35:40 I mean.. hackintosh is OSX on normal PC Sep 05 04:35:54 yep so for compiles you can run it on fast hw Sep 05 04:36:22 myke: this is the fastest macbook available now :P Sep 05 04:36:28 with 16gb of memory Sep 05 04:36:30 but probably not fastest pc Sep 05 04:36:47 well... normally it works fine Sep 05 04:37:03 but when I work at my room without air conditioner Sep 05 04:37:19 it's probably too thin, so heating problems are expected Sep 05 04:37:26 so macbooks are sarcastic when they heat? Sep 05 04:37:26 not sure what all the remote compile options are, MOE has one but i haven't used it Sep 05 04:37:50 it says 54 degrees but I think it drops frequency Sep 05 04:37:53 macs have had heating problems since the original mac Sep 05 04:38:01 bad design Sep 05 04:38:05 Arancio: eh... I'm sarcastic about my love towards macbooks ;) Sep 05 04:38:06 tradeoff Sep 05 04:38:13 form over function Sep 05 04:38:20 myke: I know Sep 05 04:38:34 wish they would give me thinkpad instead of macbook at work Sep 05 04:39:34 i have both a pc ultrabook and a macbook air now Sep 05 04:39:36 :-) Sep 05 04:39:37 both have their benefits Sep 05 04:39:43 and neither is best Sep 05 04:39:56 although the macbook is way better for normal laptop use Sep 05 04:40:39 How do you know what's the latest verstion of a library that you can use? Sep 05 04:41:00 which version of com.android.support:recyclerview should I use, for example? Sep 05 04:41:00 Arancio: you mean in the sdk dir? Sep 05 04:41:09 i had that same question earlier Sep 05 04:41:40 so far all i know how to do is look at the version in the pom filename itself Sep 05 04:42:34 don't library get downloaded from a repository by gradle? Sep 05 04:42:38 libraries Sep 05 04:42:45 it does Sep 05 04:42:49 but it's downloaded to folder Sep 05 04:42:58 except the support library wants you to get it thru the sdk Sep 05 04:43:00 I mean, for android deps from google (i.e. sdk manager) Sep 05 04:43:13 at least with the gradle setup i'm using Sep 05 04:44:12 I think I must finally read all those chapter about Gradle that I skipped in the Android books that I read Sep 05 04:44:17 chapters Sep 05 04:44:40 for example my support-utils is 24.2.0 but the sdk manager says "36" Sep 05 04:45:22 what? Sep 05 04:46:53 gordon_: I read few books about Android development but I skipped all Gradle chapter because I'm easily bored Sep 05 04:47:02 gordon_: I guess it's time to read them Sep 05 04:47:18 I was taking about '36' number ;) Sep 05 04:49:17 in the graphical sdk manager, for android support repositor (and all the extras) there's no API value and just "rev" Sep 05 04:50:58 myke: the versions in are in the m2 repos Sep 05 04:51:35 myke: check /extras/android/m2repository Sep 05 04:51:59 but how does the rev in the sdk manager map to those? Sep 05 04:52:31 rev is the revision of the distribution it has nothing to do with those.. those versions are of the packages in the m2 repo Sep 05 04:52:35 check the folder Sep 05 04:58:37 I'm following a RecyclerView tutorial. This one: http://www.androidhive.info/2016/01/android-working-with-recycler-view/ Sep 05 04:59:10 When I start the application the view looks ok. But when I scroll the list, all item expand so that each one fills the whole screen Sep 05 04:59:19 What is happening? Sep 05 04:59:51 Arancio: your layout you inflate has match_parent height :P Sep 05 05:00:27 Napalm: yeah, I thought of that 1 second after writing the message. Sep 05 05:00:29 oic, there's a build for each api you have installed, and separately some of them also have versions Sep 05 05:01:08 Napalm: yes, that fix solved the problem. Thanks Sep 05 05:12:28 People publishing tutorials containing wrong code on the interwebz... Why? Sep 05 05:12:48 is there a good way to disable swiping on a viewpager? Sep 05 05:13:57 drinfernoo: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9650265/how-do-disable-paging-by-swiping-with-finger-in-viewpager-but-still-be-able-to-s Sep 05 05:16:27 problem with that link is that it doesnt allow child views to get touch input :( Sep 05 05:17:51 actually, i may have figured it out lol Sep 05 05:49:06 Any way to get around the 'Screen overlay detected' message that you get when say, a facebook messenger chat head is on the screen Sep 05 05:49:15 but you want to request permission to use the GPS in your app. Sep 05 05:52:03 how do I give a native executable permissions to open the framebuffer? (I'm running it as root, it dies with E/FramebufferNativeWindow( 1835): couldn't open framebuffer HAL (Operation not permitted)) Sep 05 05:52:53 and, does surfaceflinger have sole rights over the framebuffer? Sep 05 05:53:09 I think you'll break a lot of stuff if you try to make direct writes to the FB. Sep 05 05:53:16 Just like with xorg. Sep 05 05:53:37 It will either not work or cause surfaceflinger to crash / corrupt in some way. Sep 05 05:55:19 Most likely what will happen is SF will just immediately draw over whatever changes you've made. Sep 05 05:55:25 my application crashes w/ selectConfigForNativeWindow() failing, and ^^ coming up in the logs Sep 05 05:55:46 I'm not accessing the fb directly from the application... Sep 05 05:56:13 (ie during egl config setup) Sep 05 05:58:15 I wonder what happens if you send SIGSTOP to the surfaceflinger process. :-) Sep 05 06:00:40 it restarts iirc Sep 05 06:00:43 there's a watchdog Sep 05 06:00:48 jjuran__: it keeps running Sep 05 06:01:02 yeah you prolly need to send it a SIGKILL Sep 05 06:01:10 SIGSTOP doesn't kill it Sep 05 06:01:25 w/ SIGKILL it resurrects Sep 05 06:01:30 yeah Sep 05 06:01:35 because of aformentioned watchdog Sep 05 06:01:57 I'll probably have to disable something from the init.rc to make it go away Sep 05 06:02:06 when systemui glitches out i do "su; ps | grep temui; kill " Sep 05 06:05:16 who have the experience of handle csrf Sep 05 06:08:02 hello.. i'm not sure if this is an android studio issue or what but i get really strange behavior sometimes - right now for instance everything using `findViewById(R.id....)` is returning null, even though i have called `setContentView` and the IDs exist in my XML file Sep 05 06:08:20 is something messed up in the build process and i need to clean / rebuild or....? Sep 05 06:10:43 greves: Have you enabled hot reload? Sep 05 06:10:51 "instant run" I think they call it. Sep 05 06:11:19 there is a little lightning bolt icon on the run or debug icon when i run it Sep 05 06:11:28 and when the lightning bolt shows i think it does a hot swap Sep 05 06:33:11 now its trying to cast my NestedScrollView to Toolbar, when the R.id is clearly correct for both the Toolbar and the NestedScrollView Sep 05 06:33:16 how do i prevent this kind of thing? Sep 05 06:37:56 tx: okay, without sf running too, my application cannot access the fb (or pick an egl config)... Sep 05 06:38:40 I'm thinking it's some permissions flag I need to trigger somewhere Sep 05 06:40:12 translating my wallpaper app now... Sep 05 06:45:57 it makes development extreeeeeemely difficult when i dont know whether my code is wrong or it just didn't get reloaded... Sep 05 06:46:38 i am just testing now, so for example i have a textview with text="Foo", but when i changed it to text="Bar", the app is still showing me "Foo" even after a clean & rebuild Sep 05 07:10:39 any idea how to resolve /bin/bash: arm-linux-androidkernel-strip: command not found. I'm trying to compile nougat Sep 05 07:12:19 #android-root Sep 05 07:15:16 Has anyone had issues with really blurry canvases on webviews before? Sep 05 07:15:33 Trying to show a custom map library (JS) in a WebView and it's super super blurry Sep 05 07:15:41 is it a hardware acceleration thing? a scaling issue? Sep 05 07:15:48 I've tried with hardware layers on and off. Sep 05 07:26:57 Nope, not an acceleration thing Sep 05 07:27:01 convince it's some sort of scaling issue now. Sep 05 07:40:04 I have a byte array. I make changes to it in one thread. The other thread is running a while loop and reading from this variable continuously - it takes Sep 05 07:40:19 1-2 seconds before the change is registered in the other thread. Sep 05 07:40:44 why does this happen and any ideas about how to pass a change faster between threads? Sep 05 07:42:23 volatile Sep 05 07:43:01 also changing/reading shared variable without synchronization and whatnot in both threads sounds flawed by design Sep 05 07:44:21 ashiren: thx for answering. what do you mean by volatile? Sep 05 07:46:01 actually im not sure how volatile exactly works Sep 05 07:46:11 its keyword like static, private or final Sep 05 07:46:23 i.e. public static volatile variable Sep 05 07:46:55 afaik it should tell threads immediately the variable changed Sep 05 07:47:03 so thread wont cache it locally Sep 05 07:47:29 ashiren: cool, will search for that Sep 05 07:47:43 ashiren lol - "It's probably fair to say that on the whole, the volatile keyword in Java is poorly documented, poorly understood, and rarely used. To make matters worse, its formal definition actually changed as of Java 5." Sep 05 07:47:55 gnyrfta: https://shipilev.net/blog/2016/close-encounters-of-jmm-kind/ Sep 05 07:49:14 myke: thx! scary article Sep 05 07:49:47 hi everyone Sep 05 07:49:59 has anyone used signalr ? Sep 05 07:50:02 gnyrfta: the most stressful thing i've read all year, i had to stop several times Sep 05 07:50:19 but it does a great job explaining in detail how all that works and the one right way to do it Sep 05 07:50:26 myke: haha : ) Sep 05 07:50:27 i am having issue with connection except with wifi Sep 05 07:50:41 like 3g or etc. Sep 05 07:50:52 ok, that does sounds like a good paper to get through though.. Sep 05 07:50:57 gnyrfta: i'd check if what you're doing is one of the pitfalls or wishful thinking entries Sep 05 07:51:10 JMM is not intuitive, it's not how C works Sep 05 07:51:45 ok, thanks, needed a place to start, so thats great. Sep 05 07:57:15 'nother day, 'nother Java-induced torture Sep 05 07:57:39 (: Sep 05 07:58:12 raoul11: hey Sep 05 07:58:21 hi buddy Sep 05 07:58:30 hows goes? Sep 05 07:59:10 raoul11: managed to get on the 4th row on the store if you search "history culture quiz" :D Sep 05 08:00:20 that usually depends on your location Sep 05 08:00:28 raoul11: damn, it's the 11th row Sep 05 08:00:34 lol Sep 05 08:00:44 Remembered that it's lower than that Sep 05 08:00:48 it was Sep 05 08:01:43 ull get there Sep 05 08:02:24 Well, absolutely no marketing done, so it's no wonder Sep 05 08:02:49 Need to polish it Sep 05 08:11:20 How do I get an instance of the main_activity.xml View that I am setting in my Activity with setContentView(R.layout.main_activity)? Sep 05 08:12:07 Is the easiest thing to give it an id in XML and findViewById()? It should just seem simpler if setContentView() returned the id. Sep 05 08:12:20 no, I mean returned the View. Sep 05 08:14:59 A simple getContentView() would have been equally helpful. Sep 05 08:16:22 Zta77, you can give setContentView a View though Sep 05 08:17:34 Ah, so I can inflate it myself. That's too tricky isn't it? I don't have a parent to give the inflater so I will most likely mess something up? Sep 05 08:18:00 findViewById(android.R.id.content) returns a FrameLayout, presumably what's wrapping my own ContentView. Sep 05 08:18:54 Zharf: Ah, the docs state that it should be simple. I'll try it, thanks =) Sep 05 08:27:29 Zharf: Thanks, that appears to work =) Sep 05 08:28:03 :) Sep 05 08:28:22 hello Sep 05 08:28:29 I've overridden setContentView(int layoutResId) in my BaseActivity so that is does contentView = getLayoutInflator().inflate(layoutResId, null); setContentView(contentView); } =) Sep 05 08:29:14 im trying to get this demo from the android development page to work in android studio, how do i go about? https://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/starting.html Sep 05 08:43:07 huh Sep 05 08:46:29 i'm making a turnbasedgame where, when it's my turn, i'd like to display some continuous animations on the playing field. Currently i have a custom View, and animating it is pretty slowish. When it's not my turn, i dont want to animate anything. What if I were to use a SurfaceView, would it be constantly updating the view (unnecessarily)? Thinking about battery impact here Sep 05 09:06:18 I;m new in android and Android Studio IDE Sep 05 09:06:40 how can I see the documentation of a class from android studio? Sep 05 09:09:28 I' getting this error: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Derived class did not call super.onSaveInstanceState() Sep 05 09:09:56 but the stacktrace doesn't point to my code. how am I suppose to understand which classes throw the exception? Sep 05 09:12:42 find all onSaveInstanceState overrides and see which one doesn't have a super call Sep 05 09:14:32 you mean of my custom views? Sep 05 09:22:43 so your custom view overrides onSaveInstanceState and doesnt call super? Sep 05 09:25:15 Guys how do I disable the autocorrect feature from one of the layouts? what is the XML option? Sep 05 09:25:49 xcolors: Ctrl + B when your cursor is over the class you wish to inspect Sep 05 09:28:47 thank Zharf Ashiren :) Sep 05 09:33:24 hello can someone help me get this demo to run in android studio, how do i go about? https://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/starting.html Sep 05 09:40:33 blippyJon: theres no demo there? Sep 05 09:40:45 the one you can download Sep 05 09:40:57 the one at the top of the page Sep 05 09:41:02 on the right side Sep 05 09:41:43 What part are you having issue with? Sep 05 09:42:18 oh boy Sep 05 09:42:27 that demo is for eclipse isnt it Sep 05 09:42:28 or command line Sep 05 09:42:45 is it? Sep 05 09:42:49 oh okay Sep 05 09:42:59 well i have trouble with getting it to run Sep 05 09:43:06 but it seems to be for eclipse so Sep 05 09:43:07 I have my app set to portrait mode, but what will happen if someone with a Nexus 10 tablet uses my app for example, which is oriantated in landscape by default? Sep 05 09:43:09 If there's no build.gradle, then it's like for eclipse Sep 05 09:43:13 Should open a bug report for that Sep 05 09:43:13 oh ok Sep 05 09:43:27 thanks anyway Sep 05 09:43:37 once again the doc is outdated Sep 05 09:43:43 well maybe not doc but the example Sep 05 09:44:05 how do i leave a bug report? Sep 05 09:44:19 nevermind i found it Sep 05 09:45:16 Bernzel, if you force it to portrait then your app will only be shown portrait Sep 05 09:46:59 Zharf, ok thanks! Sep 05 09:51:08 Zharf, is it enough to have android:screenOrientation="portrait" on the .MainActivity's tag? Or do I need to apply it to all my activites tags in the manifest? Sep 05 09:52:18 all activities have their own setting on that so yes Sep 05 09:52:30 ok thanks again Sep 05 09:52:34 you need to put it on all of them if you want it to always be in portrait no matter what the user does Sep 05 09:55:16 can i upload some youtube video downloader app on play store? Sep 05 09:55:28 I guess not Sep 05 09:56:37 ok, so not on playstore. should i need to hide my identity then as the developer of the app? Sep 05 09:57:31 up to you Sep 05 09:57:35 i mean is it illegal to make such app? or can i? because there are already apps like tubemate (not on playstore tho) Sep 05 09:58:14 well probably this kind of app would be down in instant Sep 05 09:58:28 since all this time they still didnt made youtube app play in backgorund Sep 05 10:00:15 If it's against youtube terms of service, it'll be removed eventually. Maybe not immediately, but as soon as someone who cares notices (like with any app that uses 3rd party data without permission). Sep 05 10:00:36 Tho with google services, it's likely to be noticed before it's approved Sep 05 10:01:06 shit :'( Sep 05 10:06:40 how do i make sure that the request made to my REST API is from the android app i made? Sep 05 10:06:50 what are the ways to check that? Sep 05 10:07:10 an api key Sep 05 10:07:18 a secret key Sep 05 10:09:15 squ: Even then, there is no way to be sure of that. Sep 05 10:09:27 why so? Sep 05 10:09:29 That should have been to vb0, but he seems to have left. Sep 05 10:09:51 client has api_key Sep 05 10:09:53 squ: Because your Android application is not secure. Any request made from it, can be forged from a different source. Sep 05 10:09:55 and secret_key Sep 05 10:10:48 squ: Right, but extracting a key from an Android application isn't hard. Sep 05 10:10:58 The only thing that is secure is what's on your server. Sep 05 10:11:17 sorry, i got phone call and got disconnected Sep 05 10:11:18 loke: this is unrelated Sep 05 10:11:30 yeah, ik that :/ Sep 05 10:11:38 squ: Hopefully, because otherwise vb0x3f has a problem :-) Sep 05 10:11:56 vb0x3f: you will be need a secret_key and api_key at client side Sep 05 10:12:31 the rest api call is encoded with those Sep 05 10:12:44 Just set &fromapp=true in the url Sep 05 10:12:45 but like i said, anyone can get that secret key by reverse engineering and make request to my api Sep 05 10:12:55 vb0x3f: Exactly what are you attempting to do here? Bascially, there is no way to ensure that _only_ your Android application will be allowed to make certain calls. Sep 05 10:13:25 SimonVT: that was lame, anyone can know that by intercepting that network and make custom requests Sep 05 10:13:34 vb0x3f: But if you just want to change behaviour, depending on source, just do what SimonVT said. Or add a header or somehting. Sep 05 10:13:52 vb0x3f: They can always do that anyway. There is no way you can protect against that. Sep 05 10:13:56 Yes, just like anything you do in your app Sep 05 10:14:24 vb0x3f: what kind of reverse engineering are you talking about Sep 05 10:14:28 vb0x3f: Your server side has to consider the android application to be completly insecure. So the same security measures have to be taken as when you design a normal browser application. Sep 05 10:14:46 what about oauth2 ? anyone ever used? i searched my problem and many people suggested to use that Sep 05 10:15:11 Some apps embed a signing key in their app and sign every request. But ultimately the key is somewhere in the app and can be extracted (although not as easily), and used to fake requests Sep 05 10:15:13 vb0x3f: Oauth is about ensuring the identity of a _user_. Not of a device. Sep 05 10:15:36 squ: i mean if i store some secret_key in my app, they can decompile my app using apktool and see the key Sep 05 10:15:54 vb0x3f: Yes, for example. That's one way. Sep 05 10:16:10 And then they put it on the internet and made a third party API to your application. Sep 05 10:16:17 (as has happened countless times) Sep 05 10:16:26 ^exactly, that's what i don't want to happen Sep 05 10:16:34 vb0x3f: Well, there is no way to prevent that. Sep 05 10:16:51 vb0x3f: Unless you have a completely secure device, like a Playstation. But even _they_ get cracked :-) Sep 05 10:17:12 vb0x3f: You should design your application so as to not have to rely on that. Sep 05 10:18:29 vb0x3f: But you also have to consider the sensitivity of the data you're dealing with. If it's a game, for example, it might not be a big deal. However, I work in banking where such things _are_ a big deal, so YMMV. Sep 05 10:19:10 yeah Sep 05 10:19:52 vb0x3f: That said, the tiem it takes from a game is released until its highscroe list is filled with 99999999999 entries is usually counted in milliseconds, so even for games it's an issue. Sep 05 10:21:08 And the prevalence of Pokemon-Go-paying bots should also tell you that it's not possible to protect yourself against that. If it was, you'd expect Niantic to have implemented that method already. Sep 05 10:22:20 I suggest improving the app to be better instead of losing time with such pointless "protection". Sep 05 10:22:33 Some people will use your API from other software. Big whoop. Sep 05 10:23:04 Instead of wasting time with them, invest in improving the business case and expanding your customer base. Sep 05 10:24:08 i just wanted to know that for knowledge, i'll still make the app Sep 05 10:25:10 but what about other apps, like some chatting app. whatsapp, kik? they have api too, how do they secure it? i mean people make modded apps of them but not some other app that uses their api Sep 05 10:26:04 People have of course used their API. Sep 05 10:26:37 Again, stop wasting time with pointless stuff. Sep 05 10:26:45 okay Sep 05 10:31:31 Greetings humans robots and other. Sep 05 10:32:14 NeoFrontier: 01101000 01100101 01101100 01101100 01101111 Sep 05 10:32:34 Is it going to be difficult to superimpose gps c0-ordinates or time stamps and other stuff in my app's video recordings ? Sep 05 10:32:55 Ah a human robot @ VerbalKint Sep 05 10:33:05 gtg, bye Sep 05 10:33:17 Is my taks to going to be a pain in the *edited* ? Sep 05 10:33:35 task* Sep 05 10:33:55 not taks, thats a cross link. Sep 05 10:34:11 in the neural pathways. Sep 05 10:35:35 Hello. Is there a standard way of checking the activity flow in an android app? like produce a flow chart of the activities Sep 05 10:38:00 The only thing to take in mind when optimizing for different densities is the resources, right? Keep lower-higher spec resources for the different densities, I should apply different values for padding in my layout based on density? Only for actual size of screen (sw-400dp etc) ? Sep 05 10:38:11 ZeNEX: there was such kind of inspector Sep 05 10:38:35 squ, please do inform me Sep 05 10:38:36 shouldn't* Sep 05 10:39:54 ZeNEX: probably this https://developer.android.com/studio/profile/hierarchy-viewer.html Sep 05 10:40:22 squ, Thank you very much Sep 05 10:40:24 https://developer.android.com/images/developing/hv_view_hierarchy_window.png Sep 05 10:45:29 How do I overshoot a fragment trasision? I'm adding a fragment and I'm specifying a custom transition similar to [link] except I'm using android:interpolator="@android:anim/overshoot_interpolator" but the animation seem to fallback to accelerate_interpolator. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4817900/android-fragments-and-animation/17488542#17488542 Sep 05 10:47:30 It seems like overshooting isn't possible and therefore Android falls back to something else. Sep 05 10:55:23 what do you guys put in the drawable folder for when the app can't recognize hdpi etc, e.i Nexus 6 which is 560dpi , it runs from my vanilla drawable folder. Do you put the xxxhdpi resources in drawable just to get good quality in those cases? Sep 05 11:11:16 what gradle compile should I add to have PercentRelativeLayout ? Sep 05 11:12:50 its in support Sep 05 11:13:30 thanks Sep 05 11:19:43 what resource size ratio does a 560dpi res device need to take? I have it use xxxhdpi resources and it's working the thread like a whore, so it must fall in a lower category? Sep 05 11:22:49 Do you guys think that a background like this screams "amateur"? http://picpaste.com/pics/bg2-OkQrKRHL.1473074530.jpg Sep 05 11:23:47 its fine to me Sep 05 11:23:49 depends on how content is positioned Sep 05 11:25:21 app colors have to fit nicely https://material.google.com/style/color.html#color-color-palette Sep 05 11:26:04 never ask a programmer about colours or graphics Sep 05 11:26:13 looks totally fine Sep 05 11:26:16 :D Sep 05 11:26:22 could be ruined by what will be on top of it Sep 05 11:26:33 Thanks for the opinions :) Sep 05 11:26:37 hola Sep 05 11:27:05 adq: that will definitely happen Sep 05 11:29:31 tilerendering, sup bruh Sep 05 11:32:17 reminds me something - i saw similar backgrounds already hmm Sep 05 11:34:53 morfin: ? Sep 05 11:35:13 morfin: ? Sep 05 11:35:48 Can I move Android Studio to other computer without re-installing? Sep 05 11:37:28 morfin: you questioning my honor? COME AT ME, BRO! Sep 05 11:40:05 morfin: didn't steal it from no-one Sep 05 11:40:55 purplex88, probably since AS is a standalone zip, you might need to reimport config and other satelitte metadata here & there (including sdk and fixing his path if different) Sep 05 11:41:12 satellite* Sep 05 11:41:20 I think I've seen something similar in some homescreen wallpapers that come with some phones, but it's not exactly the same... it's just the style Sep 05 11:41:54 Well, you can do a google image search and you'll find that it's unique Sep 05 11:41:58 VerbalKint, i said similar not same :) Sep 05 11:42:03 yeah looks like delaunay triangles Sep 05 11:42:19 but i bet it's fake and not "delaunay based" Sep 05 11:42:37 adq: I just learned the concept from you :D Sep 05 11:42:45 read about it, it's interesting Sep 05 11:43:12 VerbalKint, no one's accusing you though, it's no that easy to make something entirely unique (concept wise) Sep 05 11:44:24 adq: standalone means it doesn't use registery to store settings? Sep 05 11:45:20 i'm not aware it uses the registry for storing settings Sep 05 11:46:01 hey ZeNEX Sep 05 11:46:06 it doesn't Sep 05 11:46:15 ZeNEX: well, trying to get my client/server sync done Sep 05 11:46:20 why Android NDK have that many stdlib implementations? Sep 05 11:47:25 tilerendering, nice haha good luck. I'm debugging this app it should be ready soon Sep 05 11:47:52 adq: how it is standalone zip if stores settings into other locations? Sep 05 11:48:47 https://developer.android.com/ndk/guides/cpp-support.html - 9 variants of stdlib seriously? Sep 05 11:48:49 it stores some stuff in your user folder in .android Sep 05 11:48:50 hello guys Sep 05 11:49:03 because it should be tied to the user Sep 05 11:49:12 why is it always users who have to find bugs in android software Sep 05 11:49:17 linuxlove, hi Sep 05 11:49:18 whyy Sep 05 11:49:32 why this shit doesn't work the way it should Sep 05 11:49:37 squ, because they don't have to pay for this shit Sep 05 11:49:53 is it possible to get location from GPS provider without connecting to internet or wifi (GPS IS ON) Sep 05 11:49:54 thanks ZeNEX - I really didnt expect it to be that hard to analyze Sep 05 11:49:54 I mean we, users of android sdk Sep 05 11:49:57 then its not really "standalone" Sep 05 11:50:04 so they let other do their job, until it goes below of threshold of satisfaction Sep 05 11:50:13 yes squ Sep 05 11:50:22 this is so frustrating Sep 05 11:50:26 I'm so mad at android Sep 05 11:50:27 i stopped reporting bug and submitting feedback so disgusted i was at some point Sep 05 11:50:30 morfin, because android's default one sucks and is pretty much useless for anything Sep 05 11:50:37 but "NDK libc++ is not stable" Sep 05 11:50:50 tilerendering, I get stuck all the time and think I won't be able to continue but somehow I always move forward so never think X or Y is hard, its just some things take more time than others. If you manage to break it down into smaller parts, everything is doable Sep 05 11:50:50 linuxlove: yes. thats why we have GPS Sep 05 11:50:51 why do I have to localize a bug and workaround it Sep 05 11:50:58 it's even worst now Sep 05 11:51:13 they ask you to provide a test sample sometimes Sep 05 11:51:20 why the hell some indian dumbfucks are putting that shit on our heads Sep 05 11:51:24 i even remember some tickets where they asked for unit test lol Sep 05 11:51:41 ZeNEX: problem is: everytime I come up with a solution, i get the feeling “there is simpler” “this has already been done by others 10000 times so there must be a best practice” and “this somehow doesnt seem right to me" Sep 05 11:52:03 morfin, also android's linker is/was utter crap so you'd end up statically linking them, I guess they fixed that in 4.3 Sep 05 11:52:32 tilerendering, you can't make everything perfect, you'll gain that with the years, try the best you can but don't think you'll make the ideal solution making everything simple Sep 05 11:52:43 hi gang Sep 05 11:52:56 sometimes you'll be forced to do it in a bad / complex way because of the way you did things previously Sep 05 11:53:00 look at this guy, Ankur Kotwal, and ask yourself, what could go wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtp3tH27OFs Sep 05 11:53:07 so optimistic Sep 05 11:53:10 and starting from scratch once you have a decent size of a project is a no-no Sep 05 11:53:26 learn from the mistakes you made and just continue foward Sep 05 11:53:54 g2g bye Sep 05 11:53:56 squ, closed the vid after 4 seconds Sep 05 11:54:14 ZeNEX: hm yeah but I feel I m close to a solution. anyhow, i ll pastebin my next draft for the problem - and maybe ppl here want to give feedback. I my drafts get pretty ok Sep 05 11:54:23 adq: burn after open :) Sep 05 11:54:25 cannot stand those `'"tutorials"'`, maybe it's good for a complete neophyte/beginner Sep 05 11:54:37 i hate those vids talking about code Sep 05 11:54:47 adq: it is introduction to new api, to replace old api Sep 05 11:55:13 is there any db able to store json objects + query them ? Sep 05 11:55:22 the only one i can stand are the one from colt mc anlis Sep 05 11:55:28 ones* Sep 05 11:55:36 turn json to string Sep 05 11:55:42 and "uncle bob" :3 Sep 05 11:55:56 save in sharedpref, read as string, parse as json, rinse repeat Sep 05 11:56:10 raoul11: querying for json attributes might become unhandy there Sep 05 11:56:11 one needs a lot of patience for android Sep 05 11:56:39 mhm Sep 05 11:57:09 but I wondered whether there are databases which do that Sep 05 11:58:58 squ, http://changingminds.org/images/kubler_ross.gif Sep 05 11:59:28 the road is long before acceptance :> Sep 05 12:00:04 haha, I know that one Sep 05 12:00:52 solid companies just don't do android copy of their software, only ios Sep 05 12:01:19 the reasoning is if our clients can afford our products, they can afford iphone Sep 05 12:01:24 i don't think you can make these kinds of generalities Sep 05 12:01:37 adq and squ: are you brothers? Sep 05 12:02:08 we're belonging to the 3-letters family, why? Sep 05 12:02:12 long before you all nicknames in irc were 3 letter nicknames Sep 05 12:02:29 I didn't know that Sep 05 12:02:49 obviously not Sep 05 12:02:49