**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 19 02:59:59 2016 Sep 19 03:02:02 ic Sep 19 03:05:33 I gave this VM 8 gigs of ram Sep 19 03:05:37 lets see how this goes Sep 19 03:47:59 Communication error with Jack server 59. Try 'jack-diagnose' Sep 19 03:47:59 god damn it Q.Q Sep 19 04:17:04 I'd like to be able to embed the GMail widget into my application. Is there a way to do this? Sep 19 04:57:10 hey guys, how bad is it out of 10 to include the keystore in a private repo? Sep 19 04:57:42 i was trying to avoid doing it but it makes CI/ onboarding new devs etc way easier Sep 19 05:02:21 do you mean "at github but marked private" or "within our LAN"? Sep 19 05:17:24 I am using mock-web-server as a lightweight web server in production code. It seems to work fine even though this is a testing framework Sep 19 05:17:48 is there anything wrong with this? OKHTTP3 mockwebserver Sep 19 05:17:49 I mean Sep 19 05:21:42 Leeds: github private repo Sep 19 05:22:28 okay Sep 19 05:22:32 slowly I'm getting places Sep 19 05:22:40 now I'm stuck with "'/usr/bin/curl': Failed to parse version, please ensure you're running a supported java Sep 19 05:22:41 " Sep 19 05:22:47 what the hell does that even mean Sep 19 05:24:12 What if a View wasn't dumb. What if each View had its own Presenter? Sep 19 05:24:32 What if Activities or Fragments only job was determining which views were put on the screen? Sep 19 05:28:37 The view could present the data its presenter decides it should. The view was only put on the screen because of some kind of data that says "Oh, this data is displayed by this kind of view"? Sep 19 05:29:54 Lets say an Activity or Fragment could decide what data to show on screen. Some "adapter" - say a recyclerview adapter - could turn this data into views. each view could then be presented with its display using that data Sep 19 05:32:20 Hi.. I have enabled inbuilt proguard in eclipse for android. After de-compiling the apk file. I could read the jar although there is some degree of obfuscation. What can I do more to protect my application? Please help! Sep 19 05:34:51 .s. Sep 19 05:36:01 BustyLoliChan: you mean i should write in native language like C, and use JNI? :( Sep 19 05:37:10 no... I'm staring at an error of my own and I'm just speechless. Sep 19 05:37:39 I don't know if you can really protect your application Sep 19 05:38:00 as long as instructions are capable of being read by a machine they are capable of being read by a human just the same Sep 19 05:38:48 I just need some moderate protection Sep 19 05:39:17 some people with 1/2 yrs of experience in java, android cannot use it Sep 19 05:39:21 a condom? Sep 19 05:40:02 is anyone familiar with android emulators for the pc they can possibly help me out please? Sep 19 05:41:28 hm? Sep 19 05:41:43 FXpro: nah, you don't want to ask here Sep 19 05:42:29 hm? but its legit question here Sep 19 05:42:31 isnt it Sep 19 05:42:40 can you direct me to the correct channel please? Sep 19 05:43:23 Ashiren: not when someone is looking for a way to run whatsapp and games on their desktop Sep 19 05:43:30 FXpro: if you want to use android emulator just to run other people's app, this is the wrong channel. Sep 19 05:44:13 FXpro: try #android-for-people-without-a-smartphone Sep 19 05:44:32 heh... more like I am sick of fking finger typing a virtual keyboard on a small screen when I can rip on a standard keyboard Sep 19 05:44:50 whatsapp have desktop version Sep 19 05:45:11 I only like to use the smart phone when I have to for that reason. Sep 19 05:45:14 FXpro: seriously, try on #android Sep 19 05:45:24 I am in that channel Sep 19 05:45:25 FXpro: wise choice but wrong channel anyway Sep 19 05:45:42 currently you are in #android-dev Sep 19 05:46:00 if you are in #android too, ask in that channel Sep 19 05:46:07 Hi Guys! How to introduce fake methods in android code apart from pro-guard? Sep 19 05:46:14 I already did someone suggested I also try in here. Sep 19 05:46:23 what is this channel's purpose again? Sep 19 05:46:23 FXpro: they were wrong Sep 19 05:46:26 pranav: you asked already Sep 19 05:46:28 app development or? Sep 19 05:46:40 app development Sep 19 05:46:51 so bye Sep 19 05:47:18 I am surprised there is not a channel on freenode specifically for emulators. Sep 19 05:47:26 create it Sep 19 05:47:30 it's free Sep 19 05:47:31 or maybe there is and I need to look around more. Sep 19 05:47:33 squ: no i haven;t asked Sep 19 05:47:49 my previous question was different which was not replied Sep 19 05:47:52 okey Sep 19 05:48:01 this one will not be replied too Sep 19 05:48:17 may i know why Sep 19 05:48:18 pranav: are you from India? Sep 19 05:49:15 not a valid question for this channel Sep 19 05:51:22 what's not a valid question for this channel? Mine or yours? Sep 19 05:52:40 not even closest Sep 19 05:52:53 to android development Sep 19 05:53:00 *close Sep 19 05:53:29 pranav: if you want to obfuscate your code just write it in the same way you write in English. Nobody will be able to reverse-engineer it. Sep 19 05:53:56 hahaha Sep 19 05:54:00 got it! Sep 19 05:54:01 :) Sep 19 05:54:13 No need to use special tools Sep 19 05:54:44 ok, let me see.. on top of that a little tools would be great! Sep 19 05:54:46 thanks, bye Sep 19 05:54:50 shut up you two Sep 19 05:56:01 squ: anything to add? Sep 19 05:56:11 no Sep 19 05:56:16 :D Sep 19 05:57:32 Sometimes this channel looks like an asylum. Too bad that I must admit that often it's my fault Sep 19 06:24:15 Mariu: you forgot to change your nick to Alphabet Sep 19 06:25:05 oh Sep 19 06:25:59 Arancio: okay Sep 19 06:28:16 Mariu: how is going the development of your Android app? Sep 19 06:29:12 Arancio: I'm not developing any Android app at the moment Sep 19 06:29:44 Ok. That explains why you are so silent in this channel Sep 19 06:30:58 Hi everybody! Does anybody know how to make my app use the most recent version of java? I saw that in the mean time 'X' has been added to SimpleDateFormat in the android docs too but it won't work for me.. "java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unknown pattern character 'X'" Sep 19 06:32:53 LameName123: Hi! Sep 19 06:45:03 Hi. Sep 19 06:46:34 I have a ViewPager that allows swiping between 3 horizontal views. One of the pages has some Views in it that accept long press. Now, when I try to fling to the next page, and I start the gesture with my finger on one of the long-pressable Views, then the fling gesture isn't detected. Sep 19 06:46:58 In other words: I can only swipe when I thouch the space between the items on the page. Sep 19 06:47:06 How do I fix this? Sep 19 06:50:31 Zta77: that's an interesting question Sep 19 06:54:17 Zta77: does this help you? https://recalll.co/app/?q=android%20-%20TextView%20inside%20ViewPager%20intercepts%20touch%20events Sep 19 06:54:49 Zta77: this is the original source: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5915595/android-not-receiving-touch-event-on-a-textview-with-scrollbars Sep 19 06:57:49 I'll take a look at it. It's an interesting problem... however I didn't expect this to happen, so I don't really have the time to fix it even though I have to =) Sep 19 06:59:32 Then just improve the precision of your finger Sep 19 07:00:23 Damn... Seems like I have to do a lot of manual event filtering and management in each type of view. Sep 19 07:00:56 Perhaps a transparent homemade GestureIntercepterAndMediatorView would be preferrable... Sep 19 07:28:41 thepoosh, emojis? Sep 19 07:31:58 raoul11: looking Sep 19 07:32:10 bokertov btw Sep 19 07:32:51 regular TextView.setText Sep 19 07:32:58 and boker boker Sep 19 07:33:33 whats the minSdk you guys support? Sep 19 07:33:43 16 Sep 19 07:34:09 btw, unrecognised emojis look like the box with X in it Sep 19 07:34:15 but pre-kitkat had no support for colorful emojis? Sep 19 07:34:32 checking Sep 19 07:39:59 raoul11: http://imgur.com/a/pmgFo Sep 19 07:40:42 the blue one is custom? Sep 19 07:40:56 this is how its rendered on 4.3 -? Sep 19 08:03:15 raoul11: nothing is custom and it was rendered on sgs4 running 4.2.2 Sep 19 08:03:51 the blue is the background for the TextView Sep 19 08:04:05 but the emoji are the touchwiz native emoji Sep 19 08:06:43 Launching Jack server java -XX:MaxJavaStackTraceDepth=-1 -Djava.io.tmpdir=/tmp -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8 -XX:+TieredCompilation -Xmx8G -cp /home/busty/.jack-server/launcher.jar com.android.jack.launcher.ServerLauncher / Communication error with Jack server 59. Try 'jack-diagnose' Sep 19 08:06:45 kill me... Sep 19 08:09:35 thepoosh, so regular emojis are rendered as black and white? Sep 19 08:17:11 I think it depends on textColor Sep 19 08:18:22 yeah, but textColor will set them to one color Sep 19 08:19:29 thanks thepoosh, still wondering what whatsapp and others do to support color emojis on textviews Sep 19 08:20:14 I'm sure Whatsapp and messenger use their own implementation of spans, you can actually see that best with their (whatsapp) link messages and the click area Sep 19 08:21:16 i h8 working with spans, but had to use them to render those color emojis on prekitkat Sep 19 08:21:34 did it with vector drawables, which was even more of a pain Sep 19 08:36:42 vector drawbles? would have thought textview offered unicide... or is the color the issue ? Sep 19 08:50:07 capella-5x: it does offer unicode support, but pre-kitkat, emojis are rendered as black and white Sep 19 08:50:14 and i support 15+ Sep 19 08:52:04 oic, thanks! Sep 19 09:15:06 hi guys. am getting some json with retrofit (which is successful) and populate a recyclerview list. but the list isnt being populated.. im getting the msg "No adapter attached; skipping layout" can someone take a look at what im doing wrong http://hastebin.com/ihecuqicaj.java Sep 19 09:15:42 attach an adapter Sep 19 09:16:06 i am arent i? Line 72 Sep 19 09:20:47 do you have a layoutmanager installed? Sep 19 09:21:00 also is it going to that branch in the response handler? Sep 19 09:24:18 nope, and actually its appears its not Sep 19 09:24:42 there's your problems then Sep 19 09:24:56 you need a layoutmanager and the request should succeed of course ;) Sep 19 09:25:42 hmm but the log for whether its unsuccessful doesnt fire Sep 19 09:25:43 another point I'd make is that usually I have an adapter attached to my recyclerviews regardless of whether they have any content or not and then add the content to the adapter when it's available Sep 19 09:27:01 ok so set that outside the enqueue Sep 19 09:27:30 it's not really needed but that's how I usually do it Sep 19 09:31:39 Zharf, wait ive narrowed i to the actual calling with getUserCalendar. im not sure why that wouldnt be being fired Sep 19 09:34:10 oh yea i do have a layoutmanager, my mistake. Sep 19 09:34:11 recyclerCalendarView.setLayoutManager(new LinearLayoutManager(getActivity(), LinearLayoutManager.VERTICAL, false)); Sep 19 10:41:57 Hello to everybody! Sep 19 10:45:05 lads, when running application from android studio with backup=false in manifest, will it uninstall app data first ? Sep 19 10:46:01 Does anybody have experience with using NavigationDrawer alongside with activities and fragments? Sep 19 10:48:19 Hessesian, no Sep 19 10:49:39 hi i can't find any example of google sign-in and google plus+ friends Sep 19 10:50:30 new google signin is very simple but i need get user's friend or g+ friends Sep 19 10:58:58 devuser: The G+ API is sadly quite limited. Sep 19 11:18:50 Emperor_Earth: Welcome back! The channel salutes you! Sep 19 11:20:01 tothbalint: hi. how would you like to use NavigationDrawer? Sep 19 11:20:45 Arancio, well, my issue is a bit complicated, let me explain a bit :) Sep 19 11:21:11 unless you explain it, nobody will be able to help you Sep 19 11:23:05 I am really a noob with Android development, so I have tried to make my app based on what I have read in the book BigNerdRanch Android Development (2nd Edition). They use a SingleFragmentActivity, which in my understanding extends FragmentActivity from support.v4, and every new Activity needs to extend that class so they use a common fragment container Sep 19 11:23:10 <_genuser_> so my bintray was sort of successful. Sep 19 11:23:22 <_genuser_> support reached out and asked which artifact ID out of the 3 I want published to jcenter. Sep 19 11:23:27 any musicians in the audience? Sep 19 11:23:36 * _genuser_ is a musician Sep 19 11:23:54 cuz i was just thinking what interesting software for music theory exists Sep 19 11:24:07 i dont mean those composing apps Sep 19 11:24:14 <_genuser_> the best software I have used is chrome. Sep 19 11:24:37 are you sure? Sep 19 11:25:38 sadly the book does not cover NavigationDrawer, so I have found a tutorial which I was able to follow and implement the NavDrawer. It uses similarly a common FragmentCotainer, and when I click on a menu item, it uses a FragmentTransaction to replace the contents of the fragmentContainer with the menu item's fragment, and that part works Sep 19 11:26:25 <_genuser_> Nick-S: learning for music theory? Or composing and recording and stuff like metronomes for practice? Sep 19 11:26:50 <_genuser_> Nick-S: for learning, that most helpful thing has been to just google for specifics, and just buckle down and work out the boring details, the math, the note distances, etc. etc. Sep 19 11:27:06 * Zharf 's a wannabe "musician" Sep 19 11:27:20 however if I try to start an activity/fragment with a click listener or other way, and using Intents with extras to start the activity, when the new activity starts, the navDrawer is not visible anymore, I guess because it is uses the SingleFragmentActivity, not the NavigationActivity fragmentContainer... Sep 19 11:27:39 I've only been at it for the past 20 years and my theory knowledge is just bad :p Sep 19 11:27:44 i have been looking around and found https://github.com/danigb/tonal for example Sep 19 11:27:48 <_genuser_> Zharf: if you play something (at any skill level) you're a musician. amateur, professional, master, those are levels. Sep 19 11:27:57 _genuser_, sure :p Sep 19 11:28:04 oh i am iin #android-dev i thought i was in #coders Sep 19 11:28:13 i don't wanna risk myself being off topic Sep 19 11:28:27 <_genuser_> Zharf: I've been playing guitar since college. If you asked me to play any metallica tune, I'd be like, do what now? Sep 19 11:28:43 <_genuser_> Zharf: and I used to be huge into metal. and after a break, I'm listening to metal again. Sep 19 11:28:45 SingleFragmentActivity extends FragmentActivity, NavigationActivity extends AppCompatActivity, so I dont know how could I implement so the Navigation is working everywhere :( Sep 19 11:29:09 <_genuser_> Nick-S: haven't seen much of an off-topic warning stuff here... Sep 19 11:29:28 tothbalint, AppCompatActivity is also a FragmentActivity Sep 19 11:29:49 tothbalint, try merging the implementations :) Sep 19 11:30:19 <_genuser_> tothbalint: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/support/v7/app/AppCompatActivity.html Sep 19 11:30:34 <_genuser_> appcompatactivity is extended from fragment activity, which is extended from activity. Sep 19 11:30:58 <_genuser_> so appcompactactivity should work on any device that support library v7 claims to support. Sep 19 11:31:49 Zharf, _genuser_: so I should make the 'common' SingleFragmentActivity extend AppCompatActivity, and try to copy everything there from the NavigationActivity? Sep 19 11:32:34 let's say, yes Sep 19 11:32:52 <_genuser_> either or. your navigationactivity already extends from appcompat. so either pull in singleactivity's code. Sep 19 11:33:04 <_genuser_> but Zharf's original recommendation of merging the two remains valid. Sep 19 11:33:41 <_genuser_> Zharf: heh, finally got git workign on windows with ssh pushes. always bugged me that I had to punch in my git password. Sep 19 11:35:17 :o Sep 19 11:35:28 okay, will try :) thank you very much :) an other question I am troubled with... until now I have used Intents to start new activities, since there are some situations where I need to pass some parameters, but I see that the NavigationDrawer's implementation from the tutorial uses FragmentTransaction to change the FragmentConmtainer's content. Is that way of doing things related to something, I mean, do I need to use that Sep 19 11:35:29 method since the navDrawer is a common part in every layout, or using the intents should be fine too? Sep 19 11:35:39 doesn't git bash come with ssh-keygen Sep 19 11:36:45 you add/remove/hide/show/etc fragments with FragmentTransactions Sep 19 11:36:49 <_genuser_> Zharf: the git packages for windows comes with bash and ssh-keyben and all those. I just never was able to set it up properly. because it all just looked so linux'y and make it look like I had to download extra thigns. Sep 19 11:36:51 and you start new activities with Intents Sep 19 11:37:16 <_genuser_> Zharf: then I finally decided to just RTFM on github and heh, you can do all that from git bash and no problem. Sep 19 11:37:25 yep Sep 19 11:37:54 <_genuser_> Zharf: basically I don't remember any of my passwords. and because of that, I pick really long and complicated ones. Sep 19 11:38:15 <_genuser_> each account has a different password. no master password that is used to derive specifics ones. Sep 19 11:38:23 okay, thank you very much! I am trying to merge the 2 classes, is it ok to get back to you if I hit some roadblock? Sep 19 11:38:46 <_genuser_> so if I git push, I have to open my notepad and find teh dang password. with ssh keys.... I can encrypt the ssh private key with a simpler password and use that to push. Sep 19 11:38:59 tothbalint, asking questions here is always ok, just be patient though since there might not be anyone active at every possible minute Sep 19 11:39:09 <_genuser_> not that you asked for my setup, lol. Sep 19 11:40:08 Zharf, makes sense, thank you! I really appreciate any help, and sorry if I ask stupid questions, I am just a noob who got thrown into the sea with full of sharks :D Sep 19 11:40:54 <_genuser_> my c# habits and VB6 habits of naming classes with NamesThatMeanSomething and the java/android culture of names-that-mean-something is really messing up my android project names. Sep 19 11:43:24 .setCompoundDrawablesWithIntrinsicBounds -- couldnt just add setDrawableTop/Bottom/Right/Left? Sep 19 11:43:44 this sounds too much like a german cake. Sep 19 11:49:05 any googlers here who I can ask an account query of? Sep 19 12:25:21 hello Sep 19 12:25:51 is anybody in here ? Sep 19 12:26:41 asniex_: HAI Sep 19 12:26:43 no Sep 19 12:29:41 I am new to android development. I did a couple of beginner level projects to kick start my development. I need advice on what to search and learn for a project I have in mind. I wanna develop something like tincore mapper. I build myself a bluetooth Joystick it works fine as bluetooth joystick but only for the games that support BT joystick. I wanna extend it to work for games that are hard to play with on screen joystick like Sep 19 12:29:51 annoying keymap for a generic hid joystick Sep 19 12:30:10 what should I learn/search for to begin the project. Sep 19 12:34:44 You should learn that BT is the devil and to avoid it like the plaguq Sep 19 12:34:46 *plague Sep 19 12:34:56 BT3< is fine. Sep 19 12:34:59 BT4 is assy. Sep 19 12:35:17 To be more specific, classic Bluetooth is nice Sep 19 12:35:20 but BLE is annoying to use. Sep 19 12:36:05 way to lift a beginner's spirit Sep 19 12:55:12 Not using BLE yet. Classic BT2.0 :p Sep 19 12:55:17 does anyone know why this would cause a memory leak and crash ? http://hastebin.com/lorexecohu.http its like 6 lines Sep 19 12:56:52 thornekey: is this a test? Sep 19 12:57:09 if you want it to be ;) but its actually happening to me :( Sep 19 12:57:48 if it's happening you can dump the memory and see what is being allocated and to who Sep 19 12:58:03 what does getCurrentProfile() return? Sep 19 12:58:13 an object Sep 19 12:58:13 umm, stack overflow exception? Sep 19 12:58:19 what is the name of the default popup box in AS? Sep 19 12:58:34 because you return the function, not the object Sep 19 12:58:47 infinite recursion for the win Sep 19 12:58:55 oh Sep 19 12:59:53 Guys any suggestion for my quest ? :p Sep 19 13:00:06 oops so remove the get haha Sep 19 13:00:32 wait no, still crash Sep 19 13:00:36 you want to map some portions of the screen into the joystick buttons? Sep 19 13:00:57 oh i got it Sep 19 13:00:58 thornekey: paste the stacktrace Sep 19 13:01:04 it'll be easier to help Sep 19 13:01:42 @Ashiren yes exactly and overlay it on the game so that I can manipulate the game's control Sep 19 13:02:19 actually i dont know where to start Sep 19 13:02:42 it is called a Dialog in AS azv4 Sep 19 13:02:48 thanks azv4 Sep 19 13:02:49 np Sep 19 13:02:51 ive figured it out, getUsername isnt being set before i check it Sep 19 13:03:05 but im using retrofit so how can i make sure that retrofit has gotten the data first Sep 19 13:03:06 then do this Sep 19 13:03:14 im using enqueue Sep 19 13:03:39 Ashiren: Same problem. I can create an app and make dummy joysticks and button in it and control those items using by BT joystick. But I dont know how to overlay on the game and manipulate the touch for the game Sep 19 13:06:38 thepoosh, cos the stackstrace says its nullpointer so it seems that the username is being set after im calling this Sep 19 13:06:55 asniex_: for starters, do you know how to draw things "on top" of other apps? Sep 19 13:07:05 does SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW permission say something to you Sep 19 13:08:13 Ashiren_: No mate Sep 19 13:08:39 googling Sep 19 13:09:57 i.e. this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4481226/creating-a-system-overlay-window-always-on-top Sep 19 13:10:11 looks like this http://cdn9.staztic.com/app/a/983/983006/sticky-memo-always-on-top-312460-2-s-307x512.jpg Sep 19 13:10:31 but to be honest i dont know how (if possible) touch things programmatically Sep 19 13:11:40 But there are apps like BT/Joystick center and Tincore mapper that do it. So I am guessing its possible. Have to figure out how Sep 19 13:12:03 Thanks for the help mate. I think I will read those up as they are essentially the first step Sep 19 13:12:19 oh they do Sep 19 13:16:55 I have a dialog box that displays a message after a task is complete, right now I have Dialog.setCanceledOnTouchOutside(true);, but I want the user to be able to touch anywhere to cancel the dialog box, how can I accomplish this? Sep 19 13:18:25 how do i access savedInstanceState in another method Sep 19 13:21:36 thornekey: more specifically? Sep 19 13:33:38 hmm, so I found way to add an Ok button to my progress Dialogs, but the 'Ok' button is present as soon as the dialog is called, how can I make the 'Ok' button only appear when the method is finished? Sep 19 13:33:49 the method the dialog box is reporting status of that is Sep 19 13:37:37 are you using an alertdialog or what? Sep 19 13:38:32 ProgressDialog Sep 19 13:38:36 unless that is a custom Dialog Sep 19 13:38:41 trying to figure that out now Sep 19 13:40:14 Happy monday everyone Sep 19 13:40:17 looks like ProgressDialog extends AlertDialog Sep 19 13:40:38 konk3r, are you trying to rip apart the fabric of space, time, and reality? Sep 19 13:40:52 Happy and Monday are mutually exclusive! Sep 19 13:41:17 Haha Sep 19 13:44:49 you could retrieve the positive button onStart and set the visibility to GONE until whatever you're doing is finished Sep 19 14:03:06 Hi all, does somebody know a face tracking / recognition library? Something like Google Mobile Vision? I want to know if there's a face in a picture.. Sep 19 14:04:22 im doing a new installation on a windows machine. I was asked once for SDK location and i chose the default c:\android\sdk...now in the setup it again is allowing me to set an SDK location, but is defaulting to c:\users\my name with spaces\etc.... should these just be the same c:\android]sdk ? Sep 19 14:05:49 not sure of the difference between installation and setup for the sdk path, why it woudl be different Sep 19 14:07:20 this is part of the bundle exe installation Sep 19 14:07:36 winegoddess: my sdk is in c:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\Android\sdk" or something like that Sep 19 14:08:21 thanks Arancio - im really trying to find out if there is any reason the default path for installation is different for setup. and if i ca just use the same path given during installation of c:\android\sdk Sep 19 14:08:45 if no one has seen this, i will just do it and see if it works for my projects etc Sep 19 14:08:58 just is a bit confusing why it woudl have two different locations, two different defaults Sep 19 14:09:09 I guess so. I didn't have that problem though. Sdk is really big. No need to duplicate it in two places Sep 19 14:09:48 i peoples Sep 19 14:09:49 hi Sep 19 14:09:52 it even says during setup, that it will update the SDK if need be. maybe it is just comparing what was partof the bundle and seeing if there is a newer version Sep 19 14:10:02 thebishop: hi! Sep 19 14:10:09 in case they dont update the bundle i guess! Sep 19 14:10:29 i have a TextView in my widget which is invisible on the app, but shows up in the hierarchy viewer. it's obscured somehow, but i can't tell how. it looks good into the layout designer Sep 19 14:14:24 thebishop: probably there is something else over it. It happens to me when I set the layout parameters incorrectly. Sep 19 14:15:03 Arancio, makes sense, so any overlap would totally obscure it? Sep 19 14:16:07 thebishop: not any but it happens quite easily. If you place two views inside a FrameLayout with match_parent in both directions, the will have the same size and one will be invisible Sep 19 14:16:41 thebishop: if you have a LinearLayout set to horizontal when it should be vertical, you won't see anything at all. Etc. Sep 19 14:19:24 Arancio, thanks, i'll take a look Sep 19 14:19:51 thebishop: You're welcome. Sep 19 14:30:20 <_genuser_> I have an activity in a library. When I instantiate it, can I override the themes it's ui elements are using? Sep 19 14:30:40 <_genuser_> activity has an ImageView which has style="@styles/new_style", defined in styles.xml Sep 19 14:31:13 <_genuser_> from the calling ap, I want to launch it with an intent and override/extend the values in new_style included in the library Sep 19 14:33:33 set the styles programmatically and pass them as arguments in the intent Sep 19 14:33:50 directly or indirectly Sep 19 14:35:57 <_genuser_> you can't. styles can only be applied at instantiation. Sep 19 14:36:09 <_genuser_> new you're newing a view programmatically, etc. Sep 19 14:37:28 <_genuser_> I can send each element in intent and pull it out and .setBackground, .setBorder, .setMyControlWidth(), all that individually on the other side. Sep 19 14:37:31 <_genuser_> was hoping not to have to do that. Sep 19 14:37:37 sorry Sep 19 14:37:39 accident Sep 19 14:41:49 dsardari, I understand the idea of setting visibility to GONE, I'm just not sure how to monitor the status of the task that should be complete before changing the visibility to visible Sep 19 14:42:22 So I have a viewgroup that I want to have start off just below the activity viewport, and upon an action slide up only by the height of this viewgroup Sep 19 14:42:27 can I use a public global variable as a flag? Sep 19 14:43:00 using the animation I'm not sure how to get the values to start and stop in that manner Sep 19 14:43:47 I've also attempted with an ObjectAnimator.ofFloat setting the y value, but it doesn't seem to be moving it up enough Sep 19 14:44:26 This is what I've done to try to get the new height to animate to, http://pastebin.com/CBKZmRsi Sep 19 14:44:59 Bottom bit of the view is being clipped by the nav bar. So I tried adding the height of the nav bar to how much it should shift up, and that is too much Sep 19 14:45:05 azv4: what's your task doing? and how do you know when it's done to stop showing the progress dialog? Sep 19 14:45:54 dsardari, there are about 25 different tasks that can call ProgressDialog (which extends AlertDialog) Sep 19 14:46:16 most of them are just on screen confirmations that a certain task has been completed Sep 19 14:47:59 you'd have to have a reference to that dialog or a callback from your task that it can implement Sep 19 15:04:14 dsardari, Im not sure I understand what you suggest, but I am doing some reading Sep 19 15:04:43 "callback from your task that it can implement" callback seems to be the key concept here Sep 19 15:13:03 hi all Sep 19 15:16:26 woa Ceylon 1.3 is out, and this release supports Android Sep 19 15:21:54 g00s: is Ceylon 1.3 cooler than Java? Sep 19 15:22:39 Anyone in here that managed to make at least 10$/day through AdMob? Sep 19 15:23:28 I'm not sure if I should continue this Android app project or not because it's been ~3 weeks and it's made very little X_X Sep 19 15:25:46 Do you have 50.000 daily active users yet? Sep 19 15:26:26 Mavrik: nope Sep 19 15:26:36 Mavrik: not even close Sep 19 15:26:43 Well. Sep 19 15:26:49 Do you have a plan on how to get there? :) Sep 19 15:27:05 Mavrik: A, B, C and D failed Sep 19 15:27:07 is 50k daily users really what it takes to make $10 per day? Sep 19 15:27:15 that seems like a lot Sep 19 15:27:38 (not disagreeing, just surprised) Sep 19 15:27:41 Mavrik: managed to make 1.2k page views by now Sep 19 15:27:54 I'm making ~2$/day with 20 daily downloads Sep 19 15:28:21 DeaverDev: really inspiring numbers X_X Sep 19 15:28:33 Gah, I'm freaking frustrated. Sep 19 15:29:00 I should've been a millionaire by now. Cruising Ibiza in a yacht. Sep 19 15:29:16 truckcrash, you get 0.1 - 0.01$ per click Sep 19 15:29:25 Impressions are worth a fraction of that. Sep 19 15:29:48 And you can hope for a click on about 0.1 - 0.5% of your impressions, depending on context and app :) Sep 19 15:29:50 Mavrik: so it's a big corporation game? Sep 19 15:30:00 *'s game Sep 19 15:30:34 No, but advertisers aren't going to throw money at you if you're not giving them exposure. Sep 19 15:30:34 Actually, I wanted to mean medium-sized companies' game who can make decent money? Sep 19 15:30:50 So if you don't have the users, you're not going to earn much. Sep 19 15:30:57 Which means you need the users. Sep 19 15:31:25 And the prices of impressions/clicks are dropping... without a good marketing strategy you're just pissing off your existing few users with ads for no reason :P Sep 19 15:31:46 I haven't even made those 25$ that I paid to Google, goddamn it Sep 19 15:32:20 Mavrik: yeah, but what I really wanted to ask is whether it'll get better over time Sep 19 15:33:17 Not to brag, but I've seen applications of lesser quality than mine that have biggish download numbers (50k) Sep 19 15:34:29 Again. Do you have a plan on how to get those users? Sep 19 15:34:30 And I'm wondering in what span of time I could reach that number considering that in almost 3 weeks I've made ~300 (not all of them from Google, but from alternative stores) Sep 19 15:34:33 It's not going to happen byitself. Sep 19 15:34:48 *300 downloads Sep 19 15:34:54 if you build it... they will come. Sep 19 15:34:56 People aren't gonna go "Oh, is Idiosyncratic making an app? Let's look for it" every week :P Sep 19 15:35:02 is a lie. Sep 19 15:35:52 Idiosyncratic: is it a globally-relevant app? Sep 19 15:36:02 Leeds: yeah Sep 19 15:36:10 for that matter, is it a globally-localised app? Sep 19 15:36:16 Leeds: yep Sep 19 15:37:01 you paid for professional translation for an app with 300 downloads? Sep 19 15:37:13 Leeds: I'm the professional translator. Sep 19 15:37:19 :D Sep 19 15:37:40 you're a professional translator into 10s of languages, and a developer as well? wow! Sep 19 15:38:08 Hey all. I'm looking to buckle down and really learn android. I've been a hobbyist programming for a few years pretty much all self taught, so I've picked up some bad habits along the way. I can crank out a crappy poorly written app with relative ease, but I'm looking to step my game up and learn something like MVP/RxJava/RxAndroid Sep 19 15:38:18 Leeds: hold the record for the smartest polyglot Sep 19 15:38:25 *world record, that is Sep 19 15:38:46 But most stuff I see is either super basic(setting up IDE, explaining what variables are, etc etc) or way too advanced for me Sep 19 15:39:18 Idiosyncratic: so what amazing things does the app do? Sep 19 15:39:27 Is MVP the way to go? It seems to be, but the official Android nano degree doesnt seem to teach the MVP pattern Sep 19 15:40:30 Leeds: it wastes peoples' time Sep 19 15:40:58 *people's Sep 19 15:41:04 What a concept! Sep 19 15:43:39 I don't understand this pattern of having a burst of downloads and then they go down fast Sep 19 15:45:07 erm... you do realise that 300 downloads isn't a burst, right? Sep 19 15:45:39 Leeds: for a brand new application Sep 19 15:45:55 it's a drip, or possibly a dribble Sep 19 15:47:14 My SEO tool's telling me that I have/had pretty good visibility on pretty good keywords, but Android users are philistines and will only download the celebrity-worship trivias Sep 19 15:47:17 the days of the indie gold rush are long lnog gone Sep 19 15:47:45 and now I am also going to be gone, to the shower! Sep 19 15:48:31 hey guys, i figure it should easily be possible to have CoordinatorLayout with a collapsing header where the toolbar is always visible at the top of the page. Does that make sense? Sep 19 15:51:21 anyone Sep 19 15:54:52 When using Observables, AS seems to not detect the implicit type parameters going around the bend. The latest offense is a .materialize().filter(Foo::errorIsNotAParticularError).dematerialize().subscribe(next, err, complete); I had to put: .dematerialize().map(bar-> (Bar) bar).subscribe(...) to make it not complain Sep 19 15:55:16 xximjasonxx: could you just put the toolbar above your Coordinator? Sep 19 15:55:27 i thought it had to be the root Sep 19 15:55:35 i suppose I could put the whole thing i n LL Sep 19 15:55:41 wanst sure if that was kosher Sep 19 15:55:51 Oh yea, nevermind Sep 19 16:07:36 explodes: I’ve had to deal with that too. It works 90% of the time but sometimes it just doesn’t get it Sep 19 16:08:01 It drives me crazy Sep 19 16:10:31 i am also being driven crazy by CoordinatorLayout Sep 19 16:11:08 hi all Sep 19 16:11:12 anyone using admob guys? Sep 19 16:11:31 I'm using admob Sep 19 16:11:37 Haha I was actually talking about having to manually cast a field to itself with an observable, I haven’t gotten to deal with CoordinatorLayouts yet Sep 19 16:12:03 Oh wait, yes I have Sep 19 16:12:24 DeaverDev: i created admob ap and a baner ad unit and inserted that in my android app but the ad not displaying. i'm confused bethwan app id, interstitial id and the publisher id? Sep 19 16:12:40 DeaverDev: want to see my code? Sep 19 16:13:28 Did you try to show test ad? Sep 19 16:13:41 DeaverDev: i wish, where to go? Sep 19 16:14:14 xximjasonxx: I’d just put it above the collapseable layout, unless you need something to shrink into it. Sep 19 16:14:28 tried that, it gets cut off Sep 19 16:14:33 cut in half rather Sep 19 16:15:13 https://firebase.google.com/docs/admob/android/quick-start Sep 19 16:15:26 im basically on the verge of using LL as the root and doing TB CL in vertical orientation Sep 19 16:16:07 xximjasonxx: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Sep 19 16:16:09 https://material.google.com/patterns/scrolling-techniques.html#scrolling-techniques-behavior Sep 19 16:16:31 There are a few different techniques that fit under your description, finding out exactly what effect you’re after could help Sep 19 16:16:33 nothing complex Sep 19 16:17:01 basically i want the toolbar to always be visible and the user to scroll a fragment and recyclerview stacked vertically with a FAB Sep 19 16:17:19 nothing should collapse Sep 19 16:17:28 only reason, from my understanding, that i need the CL is for the FAB Sep 19 16:18:24 Arancio, oof, so it was even dumber. the font color was white, which matched back background image i was using for the widget. but the layout view showed it as black. strange that the defaults don't match Sep 19 16:18:56 all is well that ends well Sep 19 16:18:57 konk3r: basically all i really need is the FAB and the content of the page to scroll under the toolbar Sep 19 16:19:08 Totally forgot my headphones at home >=( Sep 19 16:19:56 DeaverDev: MobileAds.initialize(getApplicationContext(), "ca-app-pub-3940256099942544~3347511713"); Sep 19 16:19:59 xximjasonxx: you can do it but snackbar will scroll as well Sep 19 16:20:01 DeaverDev: what is this id? Sep 19 16:20:08 is this my ap id? Sep 19 16:20:26 Arancio: no snackbar on this page Sep 19 16:20:47 DelphiWorld: thanks for publishing the id. now we get all your money Sep 19 16:21:05